1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,840 Hello and welcome back to the podcast, Reefer the Reefer. 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,300 I am your host, Little Farmer. 3 00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:20,320 I'm here with Chris Bratton of Warrior Farms. 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:26,860 Chris is a veteran and he has moved down from Wyoming just to Colorado, just to grow cannabis. 5 00:00:26,860 --> 00:00:29,000 Can you tell us why there, Chris? 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Well, when I came down here it was kind of a push and shove to kicking and screaming 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,720 kind of, so to say. 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:42,360 So I grew up in the military and military family and police and you know my dad was 9 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:50,320 a police officer and I had much of my family was on the right side of the law, so to say. 10 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:57,800 And so I myself was also in the military and got injured and after I got out of the military 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:04,360 I was going to the VA trying to figure out what I can do and ended up hurting my back 12 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,840 while I was in the military and they just kind of sloughed me off and eventually got 13 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:14,120 surgery when I, years afterwards, when I finally convinced them that it was really something 14 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,280 wrong with me. 15 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:21,800 I got my surgery and they just continued to give me all kinds of pain medications and 16 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:27,640 sleep medications and all kinds of other medications that it was just, it was a pharmacy. 17 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,400 You know, waiting to happen, just handing out meds. 18 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:36,040 And I ended up, I went back to school after that surgery. 19 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:43,000 I got an associate's degree in auto and diesel technology and a business degree or an associate's 20 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,760 degree in business administrative management and I can't even hardly remember any of this 21 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,880 because I was on so many drugs that the VA was giving me. 22 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:58,640 So I started doing my own research and found that cannabis could take place of many of 23 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,440 the medications that they were giving me and would alleviate 90% of them. 24 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,520 And that's basically what I've done so far is I've weaned myself off of all the medications 25 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,000 that I've been on for years. 26 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,840 And the only thing I really do is every now and then I might take an Advil. 27 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,480 I do have migraine headaches so I do smoke a lot for that but if I can't seem to get 28 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,280 rid of it with cannabis, I do have another medication that I'll take for that. 29 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,320 But those are really the only medications I take. 30 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,920 So that's very rare that I take them. 31 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:38,320 And you know, it just ended up being that I was working as a truck driver delivering 32 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:46,160 fuel and I couldn't use cannabis at the time because federal law with a commercial driver's 33 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:53,160 license and hauling hazmat in Wyoming, there's no way that I could use any cannabis. 34 00:02:53,160 --> 00:03:00,360 But I did try start to use start using CBD and started to try and wean myself off of 35 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,400 all the pharmaceuticals and everything because they were fine with me driving while I was 36 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,440 taking oxycodones and stuff like that for my pain. 37 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,160 But you know, I couldn't smoke a joint or anything like that. 38 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:16,840 And so, you know, I just I started doing all this research and figuring it out and starting 39 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:22,680 to wean myself off because I saw what I could see the age that all the drugs have been doing 40 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,680 to me. 41 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,400 And, you know, I just started weaning myself off. 42 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:33,280 I ended up getting hurt while I was at work and they gave me a urinalysis and I tested 43 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:39,360 positive for THC because I was taking CBD products and I thought, you know, maybe I 44 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,320 was safe with taking CBD but I found out the hard way that I wasn't. 45 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,160 And the company that I was working for was a no tolerance company. 46 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:54,640 So as soon as I tested positive, they said, well, you're fired. 47 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,640 No offense or buts. 48 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,520 I can't, you know, rebuttal anything on that. 49 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:03,480 So at that time, I had picked up all of my stuff and moved on here because I had started 50 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,320 doing all this research trying to figure out, you know, weaning myself off of all the medications 51 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,920 and everything. 52 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:15,360 And I guess how I see it is that that was just the universe giving me that push of you've 53 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,480 done all this research and you know, you're doing the right thing. 54 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,960 This is the direction that you need to be going. 55 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,320 So I had found out about area 420 several months before I got fired. 56 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,480 And so I had come down here and I actually checked out the place and there was nothing 57 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,840 but a dirt patch when I came out here. 58 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:34,840 Nobody built anything. 59 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:35,840 There were no roads. 60 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:36,840 There was no power. 61 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:38,220 There was no water lines. 62 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:43,680 And this is, you know, December of 2018 when I was November, December of 2018 when I started 63 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:52,400 coming out here and attending the town hall meetings and I got fired, I think October, 64 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,440 November right around that time frame. 65 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:01,600 And so, you know, I was coming down here and while I was coming out here, I was getting 66 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,400 loans to business loans to come out here and actually start my business. 67 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,160 And, you know, came down here, you know, several months later I think I moved down here with 68 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,200 my camper in March and started building in April. 69 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:21,200 And so far, you know, that was in March of 2019 and I've been here ever since. 70 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,360 So yeah, that's a common, common theme I've heard. 71 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:32,020 But when you were consuming the CBD for your pills, did it actually lower your consumption 72 00:05:32,020 --> 00:05:36,080 of pharmaceuticals just with the CBD you were consuming? 73 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:45,520 I still, okay, so the way I did it was I kept taking all my medications I was being given 74 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,680 because some of them you can't just stop taking them. 75 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,480 You have to wean yourself off because they'll mess with your body even worse. 76 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:59,440 So I just started to take the CBD along with all the other medications I was doing and 77 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,540 I could feel a difference. 78 00:06:02,540 --> 00:06:04,040 So I was feeling better. 79 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,280 I wasn't feeling as groggy. 80 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:07,720 I could, you know, actually remember the previous day. 81 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,720 They're helping you recover. 82 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,760 I hear it helps with alcohol because I used to drink a lot. 83 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,200 The hangovers, it does help with your brain recovering from hangovers. 84 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,360 I can imagine it helps with pharmaceutical drowsiness too. 85 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,360 Oh yeah. 86 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,600 And you know, also because of the I ended up having surgery on my back when I was in 87 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,920 the military or after I got out of the military. 88 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,160 And so that was, you know, I still deal with a lot of that pain. 89 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:39,520 And you know, it's sitting in a semi truck, I not only was very immobile, I sat all day 90 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,640 long and I couldn't even like get up and really walk around very often. 91 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,740 And then I was gaining weight and you know, that pain in my back every time I got out, 92 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:51,080 it just started getting worse and worse. 93 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:57,100 So when I started taking the CBD, obviously, you know, like I said, I started to feel better 94 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:58,320 and better. 95 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:05,480 So I think it was it was helping more with just my all around general well being, maybe 96 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,400 helping those drugs past the pharmaceuticals passed through my system and either be absorbed 97 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,480 or expelled better. 98 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,920 And you know, because we have an cannabinoid system and endocannabinoid system in our bodies. 99 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:24,840 So you know, this is just something that you know, I noticed and as it continued and I 100 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:31,160 came down here, I started consuming much more, much more THC that is right, much more THC, 101 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,160 much more CBD. 102 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,720 And you know, I tried a lot of stuff I've, you know, done concentrates, and I've done 103 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,360 wax shatter and I've tried all kinds of different machines. 104 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:52,360 And you know, there's there's so much that I can't even fathom like how much is this 105 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,480 is advanced in just the time that I've really been looking into it. 106 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:02,160 I mean, the technology and the amount of information that we're getting, it's just, you know, phenomenal. 107 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,440 Yeah, that's what I want to try to get out with this podcast, try to teach people across 108 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,480 the country where it's where it's still illegal for when it becomes legal or they're interested, 109 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:15,720 they can gradually progress into consuming in a manner that's best for them. 110 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,480 And since you're new to it, it's something you're still learning yourself, right? 111 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Right. 112 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,720 And you said you've started consuming edibles. 113 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,680 What about your edible intake and with your THC? 114 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,120 I personally have about a 50 to 100 milligram ratio, which is quite high. 115 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,640 I never recommend that for a new person beginning, I always recommend maybe five milligrams, maybe 116 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,200 in 2.5 if they're highly sensitive. 117 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,200 But there are some people that don't feel edibles at all. 118 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,320 So they, they can eat as much as they want. 119 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,040 It won't have the effects at all. 120 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:55,160 And yeah, I would say if it's if it's your first time, I have I would say that you need 121 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,840 to one, like you said, take a very small portion. 122 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,480 Doesn't matter if you have a 10 milligram pack or if they're individuals or whatever, 123 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,300 like just take a small portion of that. 124 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:10,020 And you need to wait at least an hour before you take any more because you need to see 125 00:09:10,020 --> 00:09:15,120 how that's going to affect you at a low, low dose dosage so that you can figure out how 126 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,280 it's going to affect you and safely so that you don't have because what happens with me 127 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,440 is I noticed that because I consume every day now. 128 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,700 And when I go home, back in Wyoming, it's still illegal. 129 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:32,240 So I don't smoke when I go home or I don't consume when I go home. 130 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,000 So I, I go up and visit family. 131 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,480 And you know, I go up there for three or four days, and I come back down. 132 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:44,400 And I noticed that like, I get the first joint I have after that three or four day break. 133 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,560 I really get parent doesn't matter what it is, but I get really paranoid. 134 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:49,840 I get the that that paranoia. 135 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,800 And so, you know, I know that that comes. 136 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,600 And I know that happens to me every time. 137 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,680 So I know that now and I prepare myself. 138 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:02,360 For instance, you know, I don't try I won't smoke if I'm going to drive because I know 139 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,240 I'll get that paranoia and I don't want to, you know, I won't drive with that. 140 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,560 And so I'll wait till I get home. 141 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:12,680 And then I'll also if I'm, you know, if it's late in the evening, make sure I have something 142 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:16,080 to eat, and then I'll probably put on some just a little bit distracting TV show or something 143 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,560 like that and sit down in my chair, and then smoke, smoke a joint or do whatever I'm going 144 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:23,880 to do have a an edible or whatever I'm going to do. 145 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,320 And then, you know, I'll just relax for that evening, you know, at least for a couple hours. 146 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:34,400 So yeah, you were you were told me something unique about your edibles you eat THC Oh, 147 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,640 which I've never really heard of. 148 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,640 But you said it's hemp derived, which I haven't really messed with. 149 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,160 Could you tell us more about that one? 150 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,520 I'm still learning a lot about it myself. 151 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:50,560 I'm actually my farm is I'm in myself or pairing up with he can't be here. 152 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:51,720 He had to take off. 153 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,200 But his his name is Reed. 154 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,400 And he's doing he's actually been working on this for probably the last decade. 155 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:05,320 And he has perfected his his, his gummy, his gummy batches. 156 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,320 And they're very consistent. 157 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,640 And he's he's he's got it on the mark. 158 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,040 So he's he's done all this with CBD. 159 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,400 And he's got, you know, a lot of people that are really enjoying his product. 160 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,340 And I've tried them and he's he's, you know, spot on, like I said. 161 00:11:22,340 --> 00:11:28,800 And so he wants to get into the legal THC cannabis side of the market, because right 162 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,040 now he's just restricted to a little bit of hemp. 163 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,800 So that's where you know, I'm going to come in and says we're going to partner up with 164 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,480 him and we're going to build out a commercial kitchen at my farm and we're going to run 165 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,600 that commercial kitchen to do gummies. 166 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:50,000 Yeah, the gummies are a hot, hot item, especially for tourists. 167 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,360 People come into town when I was a bartender gummies were the first thing they asked for. 168 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,080 They're easy to consume. 169 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,640 They taste good. 170 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,440 One thing I recommend, like you said, just go easy on them. 171 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,440 Right. 172 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:08,160 You can have a pack of gummies and then go buy another pack of gummies without THC so 173 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,920 you can eat one of your gummies that's medicated and then eat a couple of other ones that aren't 174 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,920 right instead of, oh, you just kind of might forget that you took the first one because 175 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,960 sometimes you don't feel it for 45 minutes and like, oh, that wasn't nothing. 176 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,240 You take another one and right then you go eating some food. 177 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,560 And then when you eat your food, it hits you. 178 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:29,360 That food just digests it, takes it through your stomach and hit your liver. 179 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,240 So it could take up to four hours sometimes if you're not careful and you're not aware 180 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,360 on an empty stomach, you don't really feel it too much. 181 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,960 And when you eat that food, it carries it through and boom, it hits. 182 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,840 And if you doubled up on that dose, you're not ready for it. 183 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:44,840 It can give you some paranoia. 184 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:51,080 And one of the example I like to tell, I told it before is my friend, she was around her 185 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,760 parents and she'd eaten consumed or consumed edibles before and had no issue. 186 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,440 She had a good time, some really strong homemade ones, but then she got around her parents 187 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,800 and she got that first timer. 188 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,600 They know I'm high. 189 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,600 They know, they know what are they going to think? 190 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,600 And somebody she highly respects as a parent, you know, so it just made her feel super paranoid 191 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,820 that they were going to know and think less of her. 192 00:13:16,820 --> 00:13:20,360 And then her heart started racing and she had a really bad reaction. 193 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,760 She got pale. 194 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,680 I think her blood pressure went down, but her little wristwatch kept on her. 195 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:28,560 Her heart rate was super elevated. 196 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:34,400 I tried to let her have her smell some black pepper, told her jump in the cold shower and 197 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:39,280 eventually cold shower, I think helped her out a little bit, kind of woke her up. 198 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Maybe even like a coffee or something can help snap you out of it. 199 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,280 Yeah. 200 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,280 If you can, the feeling on the person. 201 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,280 Yeah. 202 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,600 And yeah, cold showers might work for some, maybe coffee works for others or, you know, 203 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,440 whatever it could be, but there, there, you'll have to like just experiment with, with a lot 204 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,920 of different things that you can, you can, you can do and that you can find a coping 205 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,920 mechanism for yourself. 206 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,920 Yeah, exactly. 207 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,220 We're going to take a little break here and go to a commercial and we'll be right back 208 00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:12,080 here with Chris and Little Farmer. 209 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,760 Thank you. 210 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Welcome back everyone. 211 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:24,700 I'm here with Chris Bratton from Warrior Farms and we were talking about how he started using 212 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:29,240 cannabis and sometimes he'll go back home and have to take a break and I do the same 213 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,040 thing and we'll have to take a break from the cannabis for a couple of days. 214 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,840 And whenever I do that, I have trouble sleeping. 215 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,320 That seems to be my biggest withdrawal. 216 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,240 I just might get a little antsy too. 217 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,680 I feel like I drank too much coffee in the morning and I'll start pacing. 218 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,140 But how about yourself? 219 00:14:46,140 --> 00:14:50,040 When you stop consuming cannabis for a few days, what are your withdrawal symptoms? 220 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:55,000 Do you, do you have bad withdrawal symptoms from it? 221 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,800 I wouldn't, I, I, I deteriorate quickly. 222 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Let me put it that way. 223 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,760 The longer I go without and I can start to feel like my aches and pains coming back. 224 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:14,440 I don't wake up as quickly in the morning and I don't sleep as deeply as night. 225 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:22,160 And I also noticed that I'm a little more aggravated probably because I'm hurting more. 226 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,080 I think those are my major drawbacks. 227 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:33,560 Like just, just in general, like just not feeling good and it feels just like I'm slowly 228 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,280 deteriorating the longer I go. 229 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,280 Yeah. 230 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:42,120 I'm not saying my, my limits about a week and I, I get too bad. 231 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,120 I used to drink a lot. 232 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,200 That would be my pain management before I could get legal cannabis on a regular basis 233 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,320 because when it's illegal, it's not available all the time. 234 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Alcohol is, it's very easy. 235 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,360 Be consumed in alcohol culture when you're in a place where it's illegal. 236 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,160 I went to number one party school in the nation where people drank every day. 237 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Yep. 238 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,160 Cannabis wasn't accessible every day, but you learn to drink every day. 239 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,280 It does help with the pains, but it's, it's something that comes with worse, worse withdrawals 240 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,280 in my mind. 241 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,080 It's a hangover, blackouts, drink it too much. 242 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,080 It's harder to control. 243 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,080 Yeah. 244 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,560 And it can get extremely expensive and very like, it can be very dangerous. 245 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,680 I mean, you get to the point where, yeah, you, you're, you're literally poisoning yourself 246 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,080 because alcohol is a poison. 247 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,080 Yeah. 248 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,920 So after a week, I tend to want to get something else. 249 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,840 And that's first thing I'll reach to before any pharmaceutical, but you told me you'd 250 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,920 been able to completely wipe pharmaceuticals off your menu with cannabis. 251 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,920 Yes. 252 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:50,200 It, it like, uh, like we were talking about a little bit earlier is, uh, I didn't just 253 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,040 drop it out overnight. 254 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:57,200 It took years and it took a long, long time. 255 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:04,040 And, um, but like I said, it just started back in, in, in, uh, the early 2018 is when 256 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,800 I started taking a CBD and learning, you know, I've done all my research and, and, and, and 257 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,040 started, and figured that I'd start doing it myself. 258 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:22,760 Um, and then by the time that I was out here, um, it wasn't, but about, I think it was, 259 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:23,760 it was about a year. 260 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,800 I finally weaned myself off of basically everything. 261 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:33,080 I took a few extra, you know, refills, uh, from the VA and I told them my intentions 262 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,880 and I walked out the door and I said, I'll, I'll be back if I need it. 263 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,120 So yeah, that's something we talked about too, because I have a couple of friends back 264 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:47,560 home in the Virginia area, West Virginia area who are veterans and they had seeked out pain 265 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,040 medication from their doctors, uh, hydrocortisone shots monthly. 266 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:58,240 Uh, I'm not sure what all pain pills they were on, but there was too many of them and 267 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,160 they all have side effects and they all complained about it. 268 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,200 Some of them were zombies half the time. 269 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,880 As soon as they told their doctor they wanted cannabis or they prefer cannabis, they got 270 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,880 dropped. 271 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,880 Yep. 272 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,880 Doctors said, I'm sorry, we can no longer see you. 273 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,920 You don't have to find another pain medicine doctor to, uh, tend to you. 274 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Did that ever happen to you in Wyoming? 275 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,440 Uh, thankfully not. 276 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:25,760 Um, no, when, when I had told them my intentions and what I was doing, they, I guess there 277 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,520 had been enough change because right there was right around, you know, um, when the, 278 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,640 uh, the, uh, it was a 2018 foreign bill, uh, was coming around. 279 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,280 And so CBD products were being allowed. 280 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,460 And so the cannabis wasn't too much further of a stretch. 281 00:18:41,460 --> 00:18:48,000 So what happened with me when I told them that is they said, okay, um, we don't test 282 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,000 for that. 283 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,360 We don't test for any illicit drugs or anything like that. 284 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:55,600 And it is your choice, but we cannot give you a prescription and we cannot give you 285 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,000 any medical advice concerning cannabis. 286 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,680 Did anybody, is it different here in Colorado for veterans? 287 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,200 Do you know, have you ever heard anything? 288 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,880 I I'm not sure. 289 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,720 I, uh, I would not know. 290 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,040 I haven't been to the VA in a while. 291 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,640 The last time I called the VA for help and I had a dog bite, I needed stitches. 292 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:19,320 They said, Oh, just drive yourself two and a half hours away to Gunnison with a dog bite 293 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,200 bleeding horribly bad. 294 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,760 I was like, no, I'll super glue it myself. 295 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,560 And I said, no, not going to do it. 296 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,000 But of course that's, that's, that's the drawback to living out here in this, in this area. 297 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,360 If you want medical attention, it's usually pretty far away. 298 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:39,560 Yeah, that's a problem living in rural areas for anywhere in the world, I believe. 299 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,560 Yeah. 300 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,200 But earlier we were talking about some of the strains that you prefer. 301 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,280 You said in different times of the day, you prefer different strains for different reasons. 302 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,280 And that's one thing I want to get out there too, to educate people. 303 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,640 Hey, there are certain times a day that you don't want to smoke a heavy, um, what people 304 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,560 are known as Indica's broadleaf plants, but now they're, they're coming out. 305 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,480 We're describing everything with terpenes is the way people are trying to explain their 306 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,480 canvas plants. 307 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,960 But there are certain terpenes like Miracene that are heavy and put you down in the couch 308 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,960 with couch lock sedating. 309 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,960 And you don't want to smoke those first thing in the morning. 310 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:15,960 No, no. 311 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,960 When you're trying to wake up. 312 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,960 No. 313 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,960 And you told me you don't even drink coffee. 314 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,080 You don't, but you do have a certain strain or something that you do like for breakfast 315 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,880 that gets you, gets you going in the day. 316 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:24,880 Right? 317 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,880 Yeah. 318 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,560 And it's a orange cream circle. 319 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,880 And it's, it's, you know, it's, it's just like, um, for me at a cup of coffee in the 320 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,880 morning. 321 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:39,200 Um, if I have that, you know, five, 10 minutes after I'm done smoking, I'm ready to take 322 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:45,560 on the day and it's, it's empowering, you know, it's, it's not, it's not your traditional 323 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,680 oil you smoke and you lose the energy, you lose the will to do work. 324 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,880 It's, it's the more I smoke, the more work I want to get done. 325 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Um, so, I mean, it doesn't work all day, obviously, but it does. 326 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:03,080 It does keep me mentally focused on what's ahead and moving forward in my day. 327 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,800 Uh, but then there's others that will give me that couch lock and will either just put 328 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:15,000 me in, in, uh, I'm hungry mode and just in a munch mode and I'll go and eat half of the 329 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 fridge and. 330 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Yeah. 331 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,760 I got a, that's the deepest strain. 332 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,420 I like a lot during the middle of the day. 333 00:21:20,420 --> 00:21:24,520 When I get that mid day, I need to take a nap. 334 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,040 I'm feeling I could smoke some of that and it does energize me and I just feel like I 335 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,280 can get something else done and I'll push through it. 336 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,320 But other times when I feel like I want to take that nap, there is some heavier Indica 337 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,320 leaning strains. 338 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,160 I like, uh, I like some heavy cushions. 339 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,160 They put me down. 340 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,160 And what was your Indica strain that you like? 341 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,560 Uh, I think it was, uh, I don't know if it was an Indica strain. 342 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,160 I'd have to look at the lane, but it was great. 343 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,440 Clean was the one that did it for me. 344 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,960 So grapes got some purple in it. 345 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:57,120 It's a great lean, I believe, and everybody out here knows the purple smell. 346 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:59,640 I can smell the purple in that. 347 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,560 There's purples in that and they're usually sedating. 348 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,520 They nice and relaxing for my muscles. 349 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:10,880 I get muscle aches and, uh, that helps relax the muscles and to calmly sit in the couch 350 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,080 and get through a movie. 351 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,920 I have trouble sitting through a movie. 352 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,400 I have so many aches and pains. 353 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,480 I have to constantly move to keep from getting stiff. 354 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,480 And those are definitely some, especially with edibles, um, the edibles. 355 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:30,280 Do you prefer the distillate you said, or do you go for the full, uh, full spectrum 356 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,280 edibles? 357 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:38,280 Personally, I like full spectrum edibles, but you gotta have a, a good plant, right? 358 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:44,160 That's not tainted sometimes like, uh, the not prettiest plants, uh, maybe have some 359 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,120 bugs or something on it and they'll extract it to a distillate. 360 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:53,520 Uh, to get these good extract full spectrums, you highly have to have a clean product, make 361 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,240 sure it's not sprayed with anything, never having issues with bugs. 362 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:04,080 And it's harder to produce, but in my mind, it's always a better head to toe feeling than 363 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,080 distillates. 364 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,080 Okay. 365 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Have you got a chance to try any differences in these in your edibles? 366 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,680 Uh, no, but that is definitely something that we are looking, you know, to, to expand into 367 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,280 if the market demands. 368 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,680 Um, right now, you know, a lot of stuff is homogenized. 369 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,000 So you know, you, you, you buy your, your distillate or whatever, and it's just, uh, 370 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,040 like it's, it's people's trim is what they usually take that from. 371 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,020 And so they have everybody's trim and it's just all one big batch that, that gets made 372 00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:32,020 into a distillate. 373 00:23:32,020 --> 00:23:35,600 Cause you're, you're telling when you distillate or isolate, you're only taking out and keeping 374 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,880 one thing, you know, you're separating out each individual thing. 375 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,960 So homogenized is from all the different strains and whatever kind of like mixed together, 376 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,960 like milk. 377 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,960 Yeah. 378 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Um, so what we would, you know, that's, that's everywhere right now. 379 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,280 Well, that's what you're going to get on medical market just because of medical, um, 380 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:59,080 tendencies and the medical, you'll find more of that because in the pharmaceutical world, 381 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,560 pharmaceutical world, they like one active ingredient and that's going to be your THC 382 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,560 or your CBD. 383 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,560 Right. 384 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,560 And if you have the full spectrum, oh man, there's so many parts of the cannabis plants 385 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:14,320 that are actually working together that have so many variables that it's hard to keep track 386 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,320 of. 387 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,320 Right. 388 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,320 Yeah. 389 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,720 It's, it's, it's hard to get the, you can't get the full benefit of the, of the, of the 390 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,320 plant unless it's at least full spectrum. 391 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,040 Um, I agree with you. 392 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:30,200 Um, but they, you know, we do, uh, that's why, uh, we're, we're going to continue with, 393 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,200 with the gummies. 394 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,040 Reed does a lot of the, uh, of the CBDs and all that. 395 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,600 So, so, um, you know, we're, we're really into just seeing what the market can do. 396 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,200 Cause right now he's doing very well. 397 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,680 So, uh, uh, are you planning on mixing the CBDs with the one to ones and THC? 398 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,960 For me, pain management, yes. 399 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:54,120 One to ones are the best, like a one to one ratio of five milligrams THC and five milligrams 400 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:57,120 of CBD together and one, one bite. 401 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,480 It is the best pain management in my mind. 402 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,640 And I've only had chances to try those with distillates because of that. 403 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,960 They the way they mix them up. 404 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,960 Right. 405 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,400 So that's, uh, that, that's the goal and that's why he wants to get into the legal market. 406 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,680 And that's why we're, you know, we want to make, uh, uh, the best product that we can 407 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,600 because, uh, the reason that one of the reasons why I came out here is, is because I learned, 408 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,520 you know, of all the propaganda that I was told as a child, but, uh, uh, that this is, 409 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,760 this is medicine and, um, 410 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,240 Oh, actually, I wanted to ask you, where did you research on your internet? 411 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,800 Did you have a specific place you can recommend for other people to, to, to research some 412 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,400 of the information that you found or did you find your information in a word of mouth? 413 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,120 Um, a little bit of both. 414 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:54,720 I did a lot of, there, there's, there wasn't a whole lot of information that you could 415 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,360 just go and get it like Barnes and Noble. 416 00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:07,920 Um, so I, I can't say exactly what, what documents you can go to, but you can go to, uh, look 417 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:14,480 online for university studies, uh, and that include in, in, or about hemp or cannabis 418 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,600 because they do have research. 419 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,400 Um, and they do it through hemp first instead of THC rates. 420 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,320 And there's a lot more information about hemp because of the, the legalities of research 421 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,080 and it's becoming easier to research THC and put information out there. 422 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,200 But I remember searching internet and all the information you got with sketching. 423 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,800 You didn't know if it was true, uh, where it was coming from. 424 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,840 And that's why I say go to, go to a university that that's doing, uh, and that's growing 425 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:46,800 in documenting cannabis or hemp because they will actually, they, they can't lie. 426 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,320 As a Washington state, Oregon and California, those are some of the leading States and those 427 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,800 universities, correct? 428 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Right. 429 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,880 So they're doing all these studies to find all this, you know, how, how they grow and 430 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,960 what's the different, you know, subjects on, on, you know, how, how they, how they affect, 431 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,760 you know, they have study groups and stuff like that. 432 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,960 And I believe Michigan, Michigan's a huge agricultural place and a lot of information 433 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,120 comes out of university in Michigan, Michigan state. 434 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,640 I'm not sure which one, but I think it's Michigan state. 435 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,120 Um, yeah, I got it when I found some good information that I think it was coming from 436 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:24,840 a guy who worked with them went to Netherlands, learned a lot about plants, natural defenses 437 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,320 without using pesticides and herbicides. 438 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,320 Yeah. 439 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,000 And that's the stuff that they're studying in all these schools and it still, it pertains 440 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,000 to cannabis too. 441 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Yeah. 442 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,400 I mean, that's actually more research done through that, through cannabis than it did 443 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,320 through our food, uh, network. 444 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,720 And the food actually goes on to ourselves. 445 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,080 They're testing cannabis a lot more here on the shelves. 446 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,320 When you were first getting into cannabis, did you, did you have any problems finding 447 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,120 bad cannabis? 448 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:57,760 Like I remember we just had, when I started, it was many years ago, we had swag weed, brick 449 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,760 weed. 450 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,880 It was just not consumable sometimes. 451 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,160 And I recommend if that's all you have to smoke, sometimes you might not want to smoke 452 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,160 it. 453 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Just wait until you find something better. 454 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,720 Right. 455 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,880 Um, every now and then I might find something that had a little bit of mold or something 456 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:20,040 like that, um, but it wasn't very often and usually it was in waves like it would come 457 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,120 and then it would be a batch. 458 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:26,040 Like it would be just like a couple of pounds. 459 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,080 And once, you know, those couple of pounds got through, you didn't see it again for a 460 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,080 while. 461 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,960 So, uh, there, there are, you know, some, some strains that are very difficult to keep 462 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,120 the butt rod or keep mold off of. 463 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,520 Um, and especially depending on your climate, because it's very dry out here. 464 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,480 So, um, you know, you're trying to, you know, keep your moistures and humidity and everything 465 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,600 for operate. 466 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,000 It's just, you know, it's a, it's a losing battle out here. 467 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,240 What is the, uh, growth method on your farm? 468 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,960 Do you go indoors? 469 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,080 Do you go full outdoor or greenhouse? 470 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,080 We do green. 471 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,800 Well, yeah, we do greenhouse and, um, what, what we're probably going to change it up, 472 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,680 uh, next year. 473 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:12,000 And, um, I've been trying to do all kinds of greenhouses and I'm just, uh, with the, 474 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,880 with the edibles, um, with the gummies that we're doing, um, I want to focus more on that, 475 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,800 especially over the winter time, because, uh, it's, it's very costly to run the greenhouse 476 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,560 over the winter time. 477 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,640 And I don't want to do, it's also very costly to run an indoor over the winter time. 478 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,760 I mean, either way, it's costly to run an indoor. 479 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:37,040 So, um, with the, with the gummies, my, you know, moving forward, we're going to do that 480 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,640 for 24 seven or not, maybe not 24 seven, but all year round. 481 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,360 And then I'm going to probably use those greenhouses next year to get early starts so that I can 482 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,080 do a whole bunch of outdoor. 483 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,000 And, um, you know, potentially what I'd like to do is, you know, send, send off all the, 484 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:58,640 you know, put, put a little bit of money into, into the plans for our outdoors, but focus 485 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,720 on selling that to, uh, you know, someone that'll, that'll take it and make it distillate, 486 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,920 isolate, or whatever, you know, whatever else they can do. 487 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,760 Um, or, you know, whatever else it can, it can be done for it. 488 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,280 Because right now, like the market is just, it's really bad. 489 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,800 Um, the price per pounds down, right? 490 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Price per pound is down way, way low. 491 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,440 And so that, that's, uh, you know, moving forward is very difficult to, you know, you 492 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,760 can try and ride that wave and a lot of people are, but it's very difficult to, you know, 493 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,720 make anything with, with, uh, you know, when you're using nutrients or you're trying to 494 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,600 do, you know, a greenhouse or you're trying to do an indoor, like, like though that every 495 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,320 dollar count or every dollar count. 496 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,280 And it's, you know, you're not barely making enough to, to keep your head above water. 497 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,240 And then it's like, you know, I got to change something up and I got to figure out a different 498 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,240 way. 499 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,240 Yeah. 500 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,440 It's constantly evolving the market and will fluctuate a lot. 501 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,040 I've seen that within the last four or five years since I've been here, the price has 502 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,960 shot up, gone down, shot up, gone down. 503 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,920 And it's very, very like topsy-turvy, like a roller coaster. 504 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,560 And a lot of people will grow for the extract. 505 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,400 I want to hit on that too. 506 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,400 When you're growing in your field, do you grow the strains that you like to consume 507 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,560 yourself or do you have to grow other strains that actually grow better in this environment 508 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,360 that you would, you have to because of the economic factors? 509 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,160 It's a little bit of both. 510 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,360 It's one is what's available. 511 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,200 I'm not a breeder. 512 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,280 And so I don't know how to, you know, get different strains and how to do all that kind 513 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,280 of stuff. 514 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:39,160 But what I can say is that, you know, I've grown a bunch of different strains out here 515 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:45,280 and there are some that I would rather do than others just because they grow out here 516 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,560 easier and they're easier to manage and maintain. 517 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,600 But then there's others that, you know, I really like certain strains and they're finicky 518 00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:00,120 and, you know, but I really like the taste of them and I like the end product. 519 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,040 But that's also, you know, one of those that it's finicky and sometimes bugs like to get 520 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,560 on or every now and then you get some powdery mildew and then, you know, a greenhouse, it's 521 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,560 difficult. 522 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:16,720 Well, I have a hoop house so I'm not an actual A-frame structure or anything like that. 523 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,280 So it's pretty difficult to seal that kind of environment up and keep it as best as you 524 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,280 can. 525 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,520 Yeah, I've got the same feedback from a lot of the growers that they have to grow what 526 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,560 grows in their environment on a mass scale that's easier to take care of and they're 527 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,600 not having to tend to every single plant every single day. 528 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,560 And as a home grower, I am a caregiver, I grow for myself, I have that chance to grow 529 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,360 little finicky plants that I can tend to a little bit more and keep that because that's 530 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,800 going to be my medicine but if I don't do that myself, I might not find that strain 531 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,440 or that cannabis anywhere else in the world available on a shelf. 532 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,200 So that's one reason I want to keep the caregivership going. 533 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,960 I like to support these little guys. 534 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,480 I love what's happening here at Area 420. 535 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:10,120 But as a home grower and a breeder, that's how I separate the ability to keep these certain 536 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:17,240 strains alive and to keep, especially if they have medicinal purposes. 537 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,660 They might not be the prettiest plant. 538 00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:24,080 They might not have that bag appeal and that's what a lot of people grow for is the bag appeal 539 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,080 because or the high numbers because that's what's going to sell on the shelves and I 540 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,120 want to educate consumers to say, hey, the highest testing stuff is not going to be the 541 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,580 best stuff for you all the time. 542 00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:38,640 The prettiest bud is not going to be the best bud every time. 543 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,680 It's not going to look good but it's going to knock your socks off. 544 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,880 And sometimes that's personally that's what I like. 545 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,840 The flavor, it doesn't matter really what it looks like. 546 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,520 Sometimes it can look like garbage. 547 00:33:52,520 --> 00:34:00,120 But the effects and they might not have a 30% THC level or even a 20% TH level. 548 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:06,040 They might have a little bit of CBD, a little bit of CDN, a little bit of CBG mixed in there, 549 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,800 some other cannabinoid, not just high THC. 550 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,440 And at least in Colorado, I feel like you're right. 551 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,280 It's very THC oriented. 552 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:24,520 People go into the dispensary, they don't really care what the CBD content is or whatever. 553 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,520 They're just looking for that THC. 554 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,120 What's the highest THC? 555 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,320 I mean, I'm not going to knock you or whatever. 556 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,000 That's how you choose to smoke your weed, then all means. 557 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,000 That's what they were taught. 558 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,320 They just don't know. 559 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,320 Right. 560 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:43,720 But the way that I prefer and yeah, sometimes I go for the higher THC content or whatever. 561 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:53,880 Back like when COVID was, unless I knew the strain, but back when COVID was really prominent, 562 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,960 they wouldn't open up anything. 563 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,080 They wouldn't touch anything unless you're buying because don't touch anything six feet 564 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,080 away and all that. 565 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:07,200 So it was based on just what you could generally see and guess because of the sticker label. 566 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,240 So then that sucked. 567 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:14,600 But if I get the chance and I can open up the case, because you can do that now, or 568 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,760 they can at least put gloves on and open it up and show you and let you get a smell of 569 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:24,520 it at least, I go off of the smell and usually how it looks if it's frosty. 570 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,960 Like you said, it doesn't have to be the best looking bud. 571 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:33,080 But if it's frosty and it has a decent structure and it's not really the larphy, then I mean, 572 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,040 because I don't, I mean, it could be larphy too. 573 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,040 I mean, it really doesn't matter. 574 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,400 I mean, certain strains like some sativas that just do that and you can't really. 575 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,400 Right. 576 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,400 Yeah, they just, it's in the genetics. 577 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,080 There's something, they'll be really on point though. 578 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,080 And it's like eating with your eyes sometimes. 579 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,720 And I had to educate some people about that. 580 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:58,080 Well, people will come in and like, I want the highest THC, but you know, I don't want 581 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,080 to smoke anything. 582 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,080 It's going to make me paranoid. 583 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,560 I'm like, well, that's a catch way to THC or something. 584 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:11,200 It makes you have a tendency or a possibility to be paranoid, especially with higher THC. 585 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,080 And then it's like, I want to recommend, if you don't want to get paranoid, try something 586 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,000 with a 10 to 15% THC level first. 587 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,480 And then see how it feels and then come back. 588 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:28,920 See, and so like right now I have a little bit of flour left over that I'm still waiting 589 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,920 to move out. 590 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:36,960 And so I have ice cream cake, which is testing at 22, mine tested at 22%. 591 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,920 And then I have a lemon OG haze and that one was testing out at 17%. 592 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:51,800 So both of them are nice, but like you said too, like the THC is not everything, but that's 593 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,160 also how dispensary is by too. 594 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,160 It's marketing. 595 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,720 It's what people think is going to bake them. 596 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:03,320 But the common analogy is alcohol. 597 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,480 You're not going to drink pure grain alcohol all the time. 598 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,280 So why would you want to hit the highest THC all the time? 599 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,520 Sometimes you want to be a little less crummy. 600 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,520 Sometimes you want to whine. 601 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,520 There's a time for everything. 602 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,160 So sometimes I like some high THC. 603 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,000 I'll throw some high THC in my herb and mix it up. 604 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,840 But normally 20% is by my max. 605 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,840 I go by the smell. 606 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,840 I'm the same as you. 607 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:35,080 I like stinky putrid, gassy, stinky skunk smells. 608 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600 That just makes me feel better. 609 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:45,360 And a lot of people, I think their nose actually attracts them to the cannabis that is suited 610 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,200 for them. 611 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,600 And that's the way I used to sell it. 612 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,120 But that's the terpene profile. 613 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,600 A lot of people don't know how to read these terpene profiles. 614 00:37:53,600 --> 00:38:00,720 And that's the way a lot of cannabis descriptions are going to cultivars or chemovars are going 615 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,560 to be the terms that come up. 616 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:08,160 And the terpene profiles are going to set them apart. 617 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,640 Miracene, sleepy, limonene, is citrusy, wakes you up. 618 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,840 And there's a bunch of them in between. 619 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,440 Do you know which one you like best for your pain? 620 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,840 Like personally, karyophylline. 621 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,040 I don't know if you've heard of that one. 622 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,040 It's kind of like a narcotic effect. 623 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,240 It's one that it is actually like a terpene and a cannabinoid mix. 624 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:36,160 It's some kind of weirdness. 625 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,880 And whenever they train dogs to sniff out, the karyophylline is the one that they're 626 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,560 trained to smell out from what I've heard. 627 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680 I'm not 100% on this. 628 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:54,000 But it is high in gelato, gelato cake, ice cream cake maybe. 629 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,840 Ice cream cake, gelato cake are similar parental lineage, but they have a different terpene 630 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,840 profile. 631 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,920 One's a little more pungent than the other. 632 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:10,640 But the karyophylline and humuline have some kind of synergistic effect, which helped with 633 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,600 the pain management in my mind. 634 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,800 So when I find some edibles and they have a terpene profile high in karyophylline, that's 635 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,480 the one I'll pick out first. 636 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,680 So that definitely, these terpenes make a difference in the feelings for these different 637 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,960 things that you're looking for. 638 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,960 Focus. 639 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,200 Like you said, you got focused when you smoked the certain strain. 640 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,360 There's pining was supposed to be a happy strain. 641 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,800 It's like an antidepressant. 642 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,000 You go out walking in the woods, you smell the pine trees. 643 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,880 It's supposed to be an antidepressant. 644 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:50,560 So high pine in your herb can make you cough a lot, but it is supposed to be an antidepressant. 645 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:57,040 So the karyophylline, if you do see this in some edibles, that is specifically from what 646 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:03,440 I understand a pain management one to focus on in the future. 647 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,440 Okay. 648 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,440 That helps you. 649 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,440 All right. 650 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,440 Yeah, definitely. 651 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:15,680 Our whole goal is to make the best product possible and as measured as possible because 652 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,480 I see this as a medicine. 653 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:27,600 The more that we can expand and the more options that we can offer, the better because everybody's 654 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,600 a little bit different. 655 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,440 Yeah, that's what I want to get out there. 656 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,880 It affects everybody differently. 657 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:39,280 So to you, one strain affects you, to me, it might make me anxious. 658 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,280 Everybody's a little bit different. 659 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:46,160 So if we get these names out there, people can try new things, have a positive effect 660 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,160 on them. 661 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,480 And like you said, you got some of your knowledge word of mouth. 662 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,160 I want to let people out there know it. 663 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,600 Don't be afraid to talk about this with your parents. 664 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,240 Don't be afraid to talk about it with people you go to church with. 665 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,800 Don't be afraid to talk about it because a lot of people I admit, especially from Florida, 666 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,440 they came in and want some pain management and they want some sleep. 667 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,440 They didn't want to get high. 668 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,680 They just tried some CBD with a little THC. 669 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,080 It helped them sleep through the night and they came back and wanted more. 670 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,920 And they went home to Florida and they got in their little retirement community and they 671 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,440 started speaking to everyone else. 672 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,120 And the next one would come, oh, I spoke to my buddy and he told me this really helps. 673 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,760 I want to try some of this. 674 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,800 When they come for lotions, the lotions are really good too. 675 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,840 If you have localized pain in the back or something, a lotion, have you ever tried any 676 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,840 lotions? 677 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,840 Yes, I have. 678 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,840 Lotions. 679 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,880 I'm very fortunate to be able to try a bunch of them working at the dispensary through 680 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,880 samples. 681 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:47,060 And there's some that work much better, especially the alcohol based ones, I believe. 682 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:48,560 They work more as a transdermal. 683 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,560 Okay. 684 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,240 And they will get in through the skin and become systemic. 685 00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:57,800 But if you put it on your vein here where you take your pulse, it'll get through your 686 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,800 system. 687 00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,800 Okay. 688 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,320 You don't even have to decarb it. 689 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:06,960 So you can just take your fresh weed and soak it in rubbing or I do pure grain alcohol. 690 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,960 Okay. 691 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,440 Soak it in pure grain alcohol, strain it out and then that alcohol, you could put it on 692 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,720 but it dries out fast. 693 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:14,720 Right. 694 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:18,640 So you mix it with some aloe or some kind of gel based cream from the store. 695 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,640 Okay. 696 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,480 So you just mix it in that and then you got your own homemade lotion. 697 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,480 Yeah. 698 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,960 And the transdermal, it really does help. 699 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:33,400 I've heard a lot of good feedback from surgery, from shoulders, knees, ski boarders, skiers 700 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,800 at the ski resort. 701 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,800 Just locate a shoulder. 702 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,480 I want something to put on there, a little CBD because they don't want to get high but 703 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,480 they don't want to go to narcotics for their pain management. 704 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,480 Right. 705 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:51,320 So that was probably like the third most common theme that I got from people wanting to use 706 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,760 cannabis but not get high from it. 707 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,760 Right. 708 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,200 And I recommend some of that. 709 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,200 You can make it home real easy. 710 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,680 I just learned about this from another podcast and I'm going to spread it around the knowledge 711 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,960 to everybody I know that make your own. 712 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,960 Yep. 713 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,960 And you don't have to decarb it. 714 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,960 It won't get you high. 715 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,960 So- 716 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,960 I didn't realize that. 717 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,960 That's very awesome. 718 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,120 Over Your Farms is a small business locally owned- 719 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,120 Yes sir. 720 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,800 Colorado. 721 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:25,040 Where could somebody find some of your cannabis on the shelves for purchase? 722 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:31,000 Right now, the main majority of it is just here in the valley in San Luis Valley, local 723 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,720 farms or not farms, local shops. 724 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:35,720 I haven't gotten too far. 725 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:38,640 I don't have too many more pounds out, so pounds left. 726 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,400 So I'm hoping just to sell the rest of them for local and get them away pretty cheap for 727 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,000 some local cats around here hopefully. 728 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,000 Cool. 729 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,280 And you said in the future, we're going to have the gummies going here. 730 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,440 That's the plan. 731 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,240 And hopefully we can have you back on. 732 00:43:55,240 --> 00:44:00,600 I plan on being down here in area 420 a couple more times within the next few months. 733 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:07,440 And we can get back again on the mic and talk about that when it becomes reality and let 734 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,000 people know where they can find some of your products and support their veterans out there 735 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:18,120 who are working hard in this cannabis game to make it possible for other people to live 736 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,120 a better life. 737 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,120 Yes sir. 738 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,120 All right. 739 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,760 Thank you very much, Chris, for coming on today and we'll talk to you real soon. 740 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,760 Awesome. 741 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,760 Thank you, sir. 742 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,760 You're welcome. 743 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,760 Appreciate it. 744 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,760 Yes sir. 745 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,640 All right, Chris. 746 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,480 I was wondering where can the public find more information about Warrior Farms and where 747 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,960 can they find you on social media to follow you? 748 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:45,640 Well, if you go on Facebook, it's Warrior Farms on Facebook and on Instagram it's Real 749 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,920 Chris Bratton. 750 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:54,040 And if you want to get a hold of me, you can do WarriorFarmsLLC at gmail.com. 751 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,600 All right. 752 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,600 Thank you, Chris. 753 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,480 And good luck in the future with those gummies, man. 754 00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,840 I can't wait to try some out. 755 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,840 Awesome. 756 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,840 I appreciate it, sir. 757 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,840 Thanks for coming on. 758 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,840 Thank you, man. 759 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,840 Don't diss the herbal doctors from rumors you've heard. 760 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,840 The man's not a drug dealer, call him Dr. Ear. 761 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,840 Don't diss the herbal doctors from all those rumors that you heard. 762 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,840 Our man's not a drug dealer, we call him Dr. Ear. 763 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,840 For the healing meditation and good vibration. 764 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:35,840 For food, fuel, fiber, and a little bit of fun. 765 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:42,280 See the joint ain't necessarily the point, but I want more.