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Welcome back to another episode of the Resellers Mindset Podcast.

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My name is Mike, also known as the used book guy on YouTube,

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along with my friend and fellow full-time reseller, Johnny B.

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We help people start and grow their reselling businesses from the ground up.

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We also have a weekly zoom call and private discord for all YouTube members.

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Head on over to youtube.com backslash use book guy to join the channel and gain

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Let's get into this week's episode.

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What is up everybody?

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Welcome in episode 25, the Resellers Mindset Podcast.

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Mike here is always with Johnny B.

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And now he officially calls himself the book shepherd.

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Today's topic is going to be is reselling easy, right?

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So we're going to kind of tackle eBay and Amazon.

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Do we think it's easy?

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How can you make it easier?

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How can sometimes trying to make things easier, make it actually harder?

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So I guess we're going to dive in.

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We'll dive into eBay first, because I think eBay is a more time consuming platform.

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So I think more people try to look for easier shortcuts on eBay, me being one of

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those people, because, you know, I'm not knee deep in the trenches like yourself

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when it comes to eBay, but I'll kind of just throw some of my ideas out there.

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And you as a full-time eBay seller can be like, that's kind of stupid.

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Right?

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So we'll just, we'll just, we'll just get started here.

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Right?

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So eBay, what's going to make it easier on eBay for me, if I was going to do eBay

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full-time, I would say, Hey, how am I going to get my time back?

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What's an easy way to try to get a little bit of your time back, you think that

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you would give somebody that was just starting out?

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Your pre-sort at the very beginning.

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So you're sorting through whatever you've bought in for the day or the week or

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whatever, but the more like things you put together to set up your quote unquote

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assembly line.

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So you're batching at this point.

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So since I'm primarily a bookseller, I'll use books.

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So when I get a batch of books, I would take the batch of books and sort of into

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piles first by publishing.

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Cause I know on my listings, that's two fields I have to fill out.

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So that would be the biggest thing.

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And the next would be genre, which is only one field.

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And then the third sort within that would be condition.

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I normally list in only two conditions, good or acceptable, because I get a lot

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of library books too.

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So now I have, I don't know, let's say.

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Ace books, Western, good and acceptable conditions.

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So I made my piles, right?

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So if I have enough for a days worth of listings, then I'll move it over to the

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queue table, like, okay, here's a day.

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And then I'll go do it again and again and again, until I have about a week's

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work.

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So I have a whole week lined up for me.

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And then it's just taking that to the photo booth and then from the photo

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booth to the listing station.

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All right.

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Well, too bad sucker.

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I'm not saying that I'm not going to do that.

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I'm not selling all the same stuff, right?

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I show up at your warehouse.

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It's my first day on eBay.

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I got a trash bag and it's full of all kinds.

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Listen, there ain't no rats in there, right?

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This is just, this is very profitable merchandise in my black trash bag.

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All right.

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But there's all different kinds of stuff, right?

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So I got, you know, I got toys, I got some shoes, I got a shirt.

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So would you recommend like, at least for me, I kind of, and I'll admit to this,

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right, when I had a bunch of different things and I was an everything seller, I

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would list the things that were harder to list last.

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So like if I had something that was real big or like real, real like obscure or

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something, it's going to take a lot of pictures, a lot of description.

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I kind of would throw that to the death pile and that would be, Hey, that'll be

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last.

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I can easily list, you know, this video game I found.

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Is that like a smart approach or you think it should be the opposite way?

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Do you think like you should work, knock out the harder item first and then onto

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the easier items for, you know, kind of to motivate you more?

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Uh, yes and no.

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I'm going to say it's going to depend on from person to person.

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For me, I do a better, faster quality job at the beginning of my day versus the

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end.

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However, some people don't work like that.

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There's, there are slow starter more or less, but they have a strong finish.

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So depending how you work, it may be better for you to have those things

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toward the end of your day versus the beginning.

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But for me, it would be the beginning.

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I would need to get the harder thing out of the way first.

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Cause when I'm at the end of my day, I'm on my last 10 or five listing.

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I don't want to be doing something stupidly hard and complicated.

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I'd rather do that at the beginning just to get it out of my way.

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And then the rest of my day is the same old repetitive, easy stuff.

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So now what do you think about, I list the item, right?

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You know, I, uh, I got the game.

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I list the game, right?

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Uh, I boxed this up right away.

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So there's going to be really no packing when it sells.

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So everything I buy, I put in the box is going to ship in.

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Maybe I write on the outside of the box, you know, PS five game,

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you know, whatever the title is.

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Do you think that's something feasible?

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Because I'd really never have seen people that actually tried to inventory

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things that way, like where it's already ready to ship, it's already in the box.

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It's already in the polymeller.

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All you're doing is grabbing it, slapping a label on it and you're done with it.

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I mean, if you're not doing a huge, a lot of volume and let's just say you're,

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you're listing more higher end items.

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Maybe you're only doing like five or 10 or day or something less than that.

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Pre-packing it.

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It's okay.

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I know shoe sellers pre box their things, but all their boxes are the same, right?

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All pairs of shoes fit in the same box.

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They build these weird gigantic cubes and they just pull their cue or the.

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Chinga block thing out.

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But again, like chinga, it could all fall down if you don't stack it right.

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So I'd say it's okay.

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If you're not doing a huge amount of volume, I'd say it'd be a waste of your time.

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If you're doing volume though, cause you're dealing so many, it's like pre-cleaning

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CDs and DVDs, you know, what's going to sell when, so it's easier and saves you

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time and money if you just clean what sells when it sells.

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I boxed when I was, you know, I get both buys and, you know, say, say it's a lot

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of like 20 CSI books, for example.

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I boxed those up.

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I wrote on the outside 20 books.

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CSI tape the box closed.

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Do you do that for any, like your book lots?

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Do you pre like box them up and kind of have them ready to go, or do you kind

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of just leave them out on your shelves?

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Like you have sitting behind you.

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I leave them out on my shelves.

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Like I have them.

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I have them.

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I used to Saran wrap the lots and then put a little sticky on it and I could

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just grab it and put it in a box, but I've stopped doing lots for the most part.

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Actually, I took any lots I had down and then I just started doing singles.

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Cause for me, I get more money on a single item versus I do in a lot and honestly

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doing a lot listing, at least on eBay, it take, it's like the equivalent of five

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listings, right?

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So it takes a lot of time to do that.

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So I took that out of my workflow.

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I no longer do lots.

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The thing, the good thing with lots is you can sell it quicker, but

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you're going to get less money.

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So speed versus more money in the long run.

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So you got to decide what you want.

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Awkward things.

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I have pre boxed before back when I was doing everything, like it was big and

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bulky and I didn't want to spend 15 minutes trying to find a proper size box

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for it, cause I knew I would have that complication.

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So I had pre boxed that kind of stuff.

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But in today's book selling world that I live in, I do not pre box anything.

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So that's like, you kind of think about ways that you can make your life a

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little bit easier, but you also have to make sure like you're doing it correctly.

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You know, you can't just throw stuff in a box and then just say, okay, I

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remember that this box is this book set, right?

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You got to have to actually have some kind of labeling system.

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And like he was saying, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

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the box system and like he was saying, you know, the book sellers, a lot of them

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just use those priority shoe boxes, same size for every single one.

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So they literally can just have a whole wall stacked up them.

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Now, if you're selling anything and everything, or even if you're

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niche down, right?

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Your lots are going to be different sizes.

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So it's going to make it a little bit harder to, to kind of have

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something that's uniform and makes sense.

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But there is, you know, possible ways you can do this.

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And like you said, you know, if you're doing 40 lots a day, it's not feasible.

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510 a day, then sure, yeah, you could possibly get away with doing it and it'll save you

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time packing.

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But the trade off is, right?

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You're packing those items right then versus listing another item, which would in turn

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be the more cash flow positive thing you should do instead of boxing your stuff up.

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Now, on the shipping front, what I have done is streamlined my packaging where most things

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will fit in said packaging.

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I have going down to three, I've had four and one of those is those boxes over there.

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So you mentioned lots, right?

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I no longer do lots, but people buy from my store equivalent lots.

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I had several gentlemen this weekend about 16 or 20 books each.

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Most of my books will fit in those boxes that I was pointing to behind.

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Once the don't or one off boxes and for future orders, that's when I have to spend a little

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bit of time.

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I dig out my random box pile, what they could actually fit in here.

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But even for that, I have a pile for that of, well, there's like four or five other

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box types and those orders are few and far between.

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So yeah, and I may even look into a certain box even for those larger orders when they

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come up because as my store grows, I imagine that happening more and more and more.

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So I'll have to get another box type because, but that's those boxes behind me or most of

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my lot orders will fit in those.

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I definitely think what you said is a huge kind of, to make your life a lot easier reselling

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is streamlining your shipping.

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And that's another benefit to selling the same thing or the same kind of category because

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you can easily say, hey, I've been using this size box more than this, right?

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I have the bubble mailers for the Amazon orders.

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It makes everything so much easier.

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There's no thinking to it, right?

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You know, if it's a DVD or a CD, it's this box.

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If it's a book, it's this box.

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Everything is kind of, you already have a plan, right?

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You see an order comes in for 10 books.

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You know, the exact box you're going to use.

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If it's one book, you know, the exact box you're going to use.

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There's no really a huge style of, you know, pile of different sized boxes.

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And you're trying to figure out, well, should I put it in this one?

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Take the guessing game out of it.

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And that's going to make it a little bit easier.

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But overall, like, what are some other ways you think where, you know, somebody is reselling

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easy, right?

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On eBay, just, just like what's something else somebody could do to kind of make their

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life a little bit easier on eBay?

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You know, there's a lot of people out there that don't.

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I think with eBay, it's, it's going to take time.

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It's a time investment.

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I don't really think you can take too many shortcuts on eBay.

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Unfortunately, if you want to have a successful store, I don't think it's nowhere near the

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same as Amazon.

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And unfortunately, like, if you're trying to shortcut a full time eBay store, I just,

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I'm not seeing a path there.

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Like I don't even know where you would start.

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Well, I got one more thing on the shipping and then I'll move on to the next thing, which

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will be inventory.

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Shipping, the less steps you take, the less time it will take.

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I have rollable tables.

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I have a, I have a whole shipping station with the computers on it.

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And then a side rollable table will put the orders for the day.

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But that rollable table, whether it's my employee or me, we'll, we'll move that table right

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to our hip.

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So it connects like an L here.

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L. So the computer station would be my thumb here.

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And then my index finger would be the listings.

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Let me just grab it.

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Grab, there's zero steps taken.

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Because even walking around to grab it, pack it, bring it over to the shipping station to

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print out the label, that takes time.

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And it seems small, but 20 seconds times 30 or 40 packages adds up.

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I'm sorry, but it does.

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And when you're paying an hourly person to do that, you look at saving seconds any way

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you can.

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In personal time, we think about our time a little less than somebody were paying, but

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think about your own time.

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If you could save time, you could be doing another listing.

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You can go out and another sourcing run for the day.

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All kinds of things you could reallocate that time to.

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So less steps, the better.

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Now on inventory management.

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Right now I'm running two.

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My old one, which is what you see behind me, it's very color coded and very pretty.

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However, it takes a lot of time to go down the line to find the exact book versus my

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new one, which is what a lot of bigger sellers use, except theirs is a lot fancier.

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Mine's a lot lower tech.

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I just use simple numbers, six digits in this case.

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So it's sequential and finding a number is a lot faster than looking for a particular

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book title.

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It needs to stick out of the front of the, well, I'll just demonstrate.

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Like so, and we can just figure it out and just stack them straight up like that.

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Or do you stack them on their side?

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They're like that behind me, but they're facing out like this.

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So this is not the show.

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So you can see it fairly quickly.

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And where did you get those things from?

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How did you make those things?

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This is just Excel and the paper, I use regular printing paper at first, but it was too flimsy

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and they would tear and they'd fall out too easily even when you're stacking them.

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But this is called card stock is what this is.

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And again, you could just put it in your printer.

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And then we have anything, one of those chopper things and we just chop it.

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But I'm looking into ways to make that even faster because I or my employee has to take

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time doing that, right?

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But there's probably a better way for me to do it.

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Maybe it's a machine.

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I'm still looking into that.

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Just to, again, always refining systems, right?

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But this is probably the best way to do it.

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Outside of, there's an additional thing that I've disagreed with so far, but it's putting

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them not only in columns like that, they're just like this instead of this.

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They want me to put them in, some people have been pushing me to put them in boxes.

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And not only that, but it's a sign of a particular box within that shell.

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And I'm like, I see the point, but they're already box like.

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I don't think I need boxes.

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What's the argument for that more space you can fit more in the, on the shelf?

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No, I would actually lose some space out of that.

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The argument for that is instead of me trying to find the row and column, I build that into

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my skew system in addition, and I know the exact column and casing that it's in.

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I see the point, but I'm still resistant to it and I'm not doing it right now.

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But it may come a point where I may have to.

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Because even my bookcases, they have the starting number and the ending number of, okay, this

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bookcase, because my shelves are double sided now, my big bad boys, of 00001 to 1200.

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And then the other side is 1201 to 2400 kind of deal.

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So somebody starts brand new and they want an easy way to manage their inventory.

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I got one four foot wide shelf.

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It's got five different shelves on it.

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How should they approach that without a whole inventory system?

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They're just getting into this, but they want to be able to say, Hey, I know it's on shelf

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one shelf too.

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What would be the easiest way for them to go about having a kind of foolproof starter

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inventory system?

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So the plan, there would be two approaches in my pain to that.

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If you're just planning because you have finite space to never outgrow that space, just make

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it simple.

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S1, S2, S3, S4, S5.

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And then maybe have, if you do columns, S1, C1, S1, C2.

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But if you plan to grow, like, Hey, I want to get a lot of bookshelves filled up.

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So you would have to have a different kind of inventory system.

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And that's when I would switch over to what I'm using, a sequential system.

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But you may want to have, in addition to that, you may want to have bookcase B1 and then

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a sequential number 00001 through B1 through 1200.

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That would be my two approaches.

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If you're stuck in finite space, you cannot grow, just make it simple.

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I got the burning question that millions of people around the world are going to be looking

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forward to this answer I'm about to throw at you.

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Johnny B, the new crazy trend is hiring a virtual assistant.

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All right.

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So Johnny B has to hire a virtual assistant today.

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But part of the business, do you think hiring a virtual assistant would work for you?

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And you can't say you're not hiring one.

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All right.

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That's not even on the table.

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I'm forcing you to hire somebody.

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Where could you fit them into an eBay business that's going to make your life easier, but

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it also has to make sense.

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I don't want you just saying something just to say, I need something where it's like,

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Hey, I'm going to give them this job because it's going to make my life easier.

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And it's going to be, it makes sense in my business.

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I would, if I had to use one in this case, I do.

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I would have them scrape my scrape, scrape websites from Facebook marketplace, Craigslist,

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even eBay to find deals for me to purchase.

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And they just give me the list in the morning.

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And then I decide if I want to buy it from there.

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That'd probably be the sort of sourcing, what would I allocate them to?

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Now if I had to be a trusted and I would never do this because I wouldn't trust them.

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I might have one do my bookkeeping, but I'm not letting them see my numbers and knowing

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where my money goes and where it comes in from.

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So I would never do that, but that would save me some time.

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Another one I might do.

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Well, the question people are going to ask is, can I, can I, you know, send them the

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photos and they list the items?

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Cause that's going to be, you know, that's like everybody's time sync, right?

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Cause if 99% of people that are new to selling on eBay are like, they're going to hire a

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VA today, it's going to be to take care of the listing because nobody likes listing.

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If it was CDs and DVDs, maybe if it was books, hell no.

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The reason with that is there's so many flaws with books, knowing all those conditions and

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when to use them and how to use them takes so much time.

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And I would constantly be having to correct their listings.

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And eventually they would be at the point where they could list, but I guarantee you

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it's a six to nine month journey to get there.

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And meanwhile, you paid this person to save you time, but you're actually spending more

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time because for me, correcting even my employees listings takes me longer than doing the listing

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from scratch myself.

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Cause I'm double checking and triple checking because I'm the one that has to press the

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button.

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I would not allow them to launch their own listings.

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They would go in the draft bank and I would have to review it and double and triple check

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that they listed it the way I want it done from my store.

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Now people watching this may be like, oh, you care too much.

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And you're damn right.

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I do.

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Cause it's my store and my business.

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And I don't trust anyone beyond myself pressing the launch button and making sure they listed

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it properly.

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So I'm reporting you to Cheryl for saying you're going to hire out your bookkeeping

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into a VA and she's going to be in your messages yelling at you.

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I'm sure it's like a VA.

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I'll hire you Cheryl.

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I don't know if you'll take $4 an hour, but yeah.

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So like, I think, I think when we boil it down to like VAs for eBay, I don't think they

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work unless it's, unless you're doing like an eBay to Amazon kind of thing where they're

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just out there.

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Like you said, sourcing, I think sourcing is the only play for VAs on eBay.

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And it's weird because right, you're not even doing eBay to Amazon.

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You're just looking for them to be out there on marketplaces, trying to find you a crazy

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good bulk deal where you can buy it and have it shipped to you.

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It's completely different with eBay.

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You know, if you're just doing eBay, a VA, I just don't see it working.

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I mean, you need a physical person, right?

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If you want to take photos off your plate, you know, you need somebody there next to

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you doing the photos.

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You can't have somebody, you know, anywhere else.

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Not even the next town over.

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They got to be there in person because it's a process.

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eBay is all an in-person process.

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There's really no kind of outsourcing this, outsourcing that.

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And especially, you know, it's such an item specific driven, you know, platform and optimized

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listings.

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Sure.

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If you go on eBay, you're going to see 98% of just junk listings, but being the 2% of

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the good listings, that's why you're successful.

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That's why your business is successful.

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That's why you can get more money for the same items.

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You know, if me and you sell the same item, the same book, you can get a lot more than

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me.

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You're taking double my photos.

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You're doing 10 times better descriptions, item specifics, all of that.

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So I don't think a VA really fits in kind of an eBay only business.

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Well, the other main crux of it, honestly, is the photos only go so far.

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Having the item in your hand as you're listing, like I have piles of books.

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Here's one.

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I can only get so much off the photos, even doing all this.

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And there may be something I missed that I didn't take a photo of, but when I have it

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in hand, oh, it has this.

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But I can mention the condition note.

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It's not like I have to run my photo booth and take a new photo.

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I could just mention the condition note and be done with it.

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A VA is going to miss that because they don't have the item.

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They're off in, I don't know, Singapore.

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And they're just running off the photos because you sent them the photos.

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Even if they get everything right, there may be a couple things they miss because of not

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having the item in front of them.

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All right.

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So we're going to end this eBay reselling is easy topic with one last question.

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I'll let you answer first and then I will answer.

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In your current business, reselling on eBay, is it easy?

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Yes or no?

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No.

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All right.

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And I'm going to ask myself the same question.

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And the way I run my eBay, I would say yes.

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So two different completely perspectives.

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We all know I do one listing a day.

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Just that, depending on the week, depending on how I feel, if the sun's out, if it's a

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full moon, I might not list.

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I heard if you list on eBay and there's a full moon, those listings disappear.

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But yeah, so right there are two different perspectives.

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He's full-time eBay.

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He'll tell you, no, eBay is not easy.

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There's things you can do to make your life a little bit easier, but it's still going

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to take a lot of work, a lot of details if you want to be successful and actually get

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sales.

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You're not just listing stuff to list stuff.

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At the end of the day, you want to get sales.

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I list my one item.

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It's not a big deal for me.

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I'm not doing all the descriptions he does.

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It is easy for me, in my opinion.

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But I do also adopt his inventory systems, his training me up on how to make shipping

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easier.

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So it's kind of hassle-free when it comes to that.

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I'm not running around for different boxes or things like that.

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So now we're going to jump into the Amazon side of things.

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And this will be a little bit different kind of perspective here because Amazon, every

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time, I mean, most people go from eBay to Amazon because you hear Amazon, it's less

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time intensive, right?

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You could just send your stuff to Amazon and wash your hands of it.

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You really don't have to deal with anything.

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And to an extent, I think we both would say that's true.

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It's a lot less complicated.

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The listing, there's software is where you can list.

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You can leverage software as an Amazon to make it pretty simple and foolproof and kind

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of easy.

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And that same question we asked about eBay is selling on Amazon easy.

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I would say yes, yes again.

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I'm two yeses, right?

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I'm not out here saying anything is hard.

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Maybe that's just my mindset because I've worked crappy jobs.

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I've worked in warehouses.

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Funny story, I worked in a South Philly seafood warehouse.

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I lasted two nights and I quit.

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Dude, I couldn't.

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I couldn't.

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It's 20 degrees in the seafood warehouse.

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I'm carrying like 50 pound bags of clams all night long.

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There's life in back there.

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I smelled so bad.

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I literally, I had to throw the clothes out that I wore.

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I quit after two nights.

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So my definition of easy and hard might be a little skewed here, but I think Amazon is

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definitely a lot easier than eBay.

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What do you think?

468
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I say yes, it's a lot easier.

469
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:54,520
I would say it has a harder start though because you got to figure it all out and then it dawns

470
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,520
on you.

471
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,160
There's all these other programs you need to add on.

472
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,320
It's not an all in one tool kind of like eBay is.

473
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,320
Now don't get me wrong.

474
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:06,360
There's some third party tools for eBay too, but I think they're a necessary thing in Amazon

475
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,000
where they're an optional thing in eBay.

476
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
I agree.

477
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,080
I think there's still a lot of opportunity.

478
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:17,600
I'm not sure like maybe if it's how much like eBay limits their backend like to softwares,

479
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,600
but I feel like there's a lot of opportunity for growth in the software space for eBay.

480
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,720
Instead of going into the eBay app and having to search sold comps, why isn't there an app

481
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,120
where you just scan the barcode and it shows you what the item sold for you kind of like

482
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:36,320
the Amazon apps, the seller amps, the scout leads, the scout IQs.

483
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,240
You can see all that information in real time and that doesn't exist for eBay.

484
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,040
I'm not sure why, but I think it could literally bust eBay wide open for a lot more people

485
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,600
because it makes it the barrier to entry a lot easier and it makes it kind of foolproof.

486
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,200
The argument is eBay, you got to have knowledge to sell things on eBay versus Amazon where

487
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,480
you can just scan something and it's all analytical.

488
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,520
You're looking at how much did I pay?

489
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,640
How much are the fees?

490
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,640
How much am I going to make?

491
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,840
eBay, you got to be like, you walk in, you're like, hey, what am I looking at here?

492
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,320
You got all these different listings.

493
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,400
Sure, you can sort it to sold, but that's really not going to give you a clear picture

494
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,120
if there's 20 people listed and only one sold.

495
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,920
You got to kind of be more analytical and knowledgeable.

496
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,920
Right.

497
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:27,200
Now you can scan things that have a barcode to an extent or EPC into eBay, but it's going

498
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,000
to pull from eBay's internal catalog, very similar to Amazon.

499
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,400
I'm not going to lie there.

500
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:40,040
However, it's going to pull off somebody else's listing and a lot of the time it's either

501
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,400
wrong or missing the highlights of that item and the title structure.

502
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,600
You got to redo it a lot of the times because the one it's pulling is complete garbage and

503
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,080
breaks all the eBay rules of this isn't how you should do a listing, but yet it's the

504
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:03,320
one it gave you and it's like, okay, I guess I'll fix this crappy junk listing and go from

505
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,320
there.

506
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,600
Do you hate me that I actually sold something by selling another listing that had a little

507
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,800
fire emoji in the title?

508
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,800
A little bit.

509
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,800
See?

510
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,800
Yeah, see?

511
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,360
So like he's right with that, but I've done it because, A, I'm not good at eBay.

512
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,400
I don't claim to be an eBay expert.

513
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,480
So I see this one sold, right?

514
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,480
It's the only one that's sold.

515
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,040
I'm just going to hit sell similar.

516
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,240
I'm going to keep Bozo the Clown's fire emoji in the title.

517
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,080
I mean, the item did sell, so maybe it was the fire emoji that got me to sell, but that's

518
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,880
not the correct way that listing should be optimized when somebody's searching on eBay

519
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,400
because that's never going to show up.

520
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,840
And you kind of take that back to Amazon where when you scan something, you're usually only

521
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,280
going to get one listing for the most part.

522
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,020
And that listing is usually filled out with all the correct information in it, right?

523
00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:54,200
There's only one title.

524
00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:00,120
The titles, what Amazon approves in their catalog, the photos are all stock photos.

525
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,240
So it's kind of foolproof when you compare them.

526
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,680
There's really no knowledge.

527
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,040
Like I joke all the time, right?

528
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,320
If I could train a bunch of chimpanzees to go to the stores and scan stuff, I'd be good

529
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,480
to go because there's really no knowledge base.

530
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,960
And it's that easy if you just understand the numbers and what you're looking at compared

531
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,960
to eBay.

532
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,080
At Amazon, it's just about consistency and finding items.

533
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,200
Now we did a deep dive a few weeks back in my media call group and refinement, title

534
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,200
structure stuff.

535
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,200
We use Terapeak.

536
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,000
So if you don't know, that's a product research tool that's built into eBay.

537
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,040
And we were looking at Stephen King's did, and we're looking at all the sales for this,

538
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,040
right?

539
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,560
We found one that had sold.

540
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:49,520
The only thing in the title was the words I and T. And that is the lowest effort I've

541
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,880
ever seen for a listing ever.

542
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,160
But yet it did sell.

543
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,920
That's kind of the thing with eBay.

544
00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,480
There are things that'll make you sell faster and quicker if you do like a proper title

545
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,480
structure.

546
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,440
But in my opinion, and the whole result of that discussion was the end of the day, it

547
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,440
all sells.

548
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,920
It's just when will it sell?

549
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,440
And then there's some stuff that has been, I sold a book just yesterday.

550
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,240
It had been on my shelf for 15 months.

551
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,240
I didn't think this thing would ever sell.

552
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,240
But you know what?

553
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,000
15 months later, it did sell.

554
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,000
It was garbage.

555
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,960
It was all chewed up, gnawed up, written in all throughout the book.

556
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,600
And the book was Heidi for those that were interested.

557
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,760
And I was a jerk, McJerkface.

558
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,640
I put in my condition notes just blasting this book to smithereens.

559
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,400
Probably why it didn't sell 15 months, because I think it was one of my last listings 15

560
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,400
months ago.

561
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,400
I'm like, you know what?

562
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,400
Screw it.

563
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

564
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,920
It was really funny in my opinion.

565
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,920
But it did sell.

566
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,920
It did sell.

567
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,920
It just took 15 months.

568
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,440
In comparison, you're kind of like 90-10.

569
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,560
I don't know what your percentage is in your mind of eBay to Amazon.

570
00:29:54,560 --> 00:30:02,120
Just kind of in your experience with Amazon over the past year, in comparison to eBay,

571
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,760
what was the biggest benefit?

572
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,760
What did you see?

573
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,760
Was it the time you spent listing?

574
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Was it the research needed?

575
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,680
Was it the finding a price to put your items out?

576
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:21,080
What was the biggest relief when you started doing Amazon in comparison to eBay?

577
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:28,520
The biggest relief was the time saved.

578
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,400
One listing to one listing on Amazon.

579
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,880
It's night and day difference.

580
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Yes, I go overboard.

581
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:40,880
Even if I weren't to go overboard, I would still say doing an Amazon listing is 10 times

582
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,320
faster than an eBay listing with minimal effort.

583
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,440
It just is, because it's literally price done.

584
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Scan price done.

585
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,440
Scan price done.

586
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,800
If it's eBay versus eBay, I've got to type something in the title, upload the photos,

587
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,680
and let's just say I skipped all the item specifics and just did a condition now.

588
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:07,120
Just those three things took me 10 times as much time versus scan price next.

589
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,760
There is a speed volume thing you can do with Amazon.

590
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,880
I'm hiding a little bit of the Amazon word because you have to scan the item to even

591
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,040
get it to be able to list, and then you have to maybe interpret the data on Scatly or

592
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Scout IQ depending on what you use, and then make a judgment call on some things.

593
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,840
Then maybe if you're cleaning books or putting stickers on, there's that workload onto it.

594
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,560
I'm not going to hide it from you guys.

595
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,120
You guys listening to this probably already know this, but if anybody knew people, there

596
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,000
is a little bit of work involved on Amazon.

597
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:46,080
The listing part, just the listing part on both platforms, Amazon's king.

598
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:51,480
It's crazy to see the difference and the contrast in the platforms and how it's easier some

599
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,360
ways, but how it's not easier.

600
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,480
I think the big headache with Amazon is understanding the fee structure.

601
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:04,240
A lot of people don't really understand how it is to be profitable on Amazon.

602
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,840
I guess you could say the same on eBay, but it's a lot more prevalent on Amazon because

603
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,340
the fees are a lot higher.

604
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:15,600
When it comes to numbers, I think that's the biggest hurdle for Amazon sellers.

605
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:21,160
There's really no way to make that easy besides just having the knowledge of understanding

606
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,640
profitability in a business, not sales in a business, because all you see on Amazon

607
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,640
is, hey, I did this much in sales.

608
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,000
Really not, hey, I made this much.

609
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,080
It's one of those things where it's just like, hey, look, I did $100 in sales today.

610
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,840
Well, Johnny, good for you.

611
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,720
How much of that money did you actually make?

612
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,760
It's a dark side that nobody really wants to put out there.

613
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,760
Now I think you made a great point, and I'm going to mention Amazon's flaw.

614
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,080
What a many.

615
00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:00,240
Interpreting that stupid chart, the little tornado wavy looking chart of how much you're

616
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:06,880
getting, when you're getting it, and the little subsequent tabs in there, hot garbage.

617
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320
I hate it.

618
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,760
Understanding what you sold and how much you got out of that, figuring out how to even

619
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,360
navigate to that.

620
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,140
This is where Amazon drops the ball.

621
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:17,560
It's not intuitive.

622
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,000
eBay, super easy.

623
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,640
I can understand it instantly.

624
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:29,800
Now, first time I saw this underwater radar chart, I'm like, what in the hell is this?

625
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,800
It's got different numbers.

626
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,440
I was like, okay, I had to go to YouTube to figure it out because I need somebody to explain

627
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,440
it to me.

628
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,440
I may have asked you a question.

629
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,640
I don't remember if I did or not.

630
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,040
I try not to waste your time too much.

631
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,480
But it took me 20 minutes to figure out, okay, here's what they're saying, matching it up

632
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,680
to what the hell I'm looking at.

633
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:57,680
Amazon has a lot of great things going for it, but it reflecting its data to its sellers,

634
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,480
unless you... There's no way you can understand it off the get go.

635
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,480
I'm sorry, you can't.

636
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,160
No, I agree with you there.

637
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,800
I think we're going to wrap this up with one last question here.

638
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:14,920
Do you think people make reselling a lot harder than it needs to be?

639
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:21,920
Yes, I think people way overthink it, way overanalyze it, and they try to make it perfect.

640
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,400
The other way they do it, the reverse is true.

641
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:30,120
They try to make it the quickest way, maybe even the laziest way, just to get their time.

642
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,680
They only want to spend an hour a week on it and try to figure out how they can do it

643
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,880
at a big scale doing that.

644
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,720
I'm sorry, that's just not possible.

645
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:42,480
Or your account's going to get banned or broken because you didn't put forth the effort.

646
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,760
You just summed it all up right there.

647
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,400
A lot of people make it a lot harder than it needs to be.

648
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,960
Reselling can be easy, but it's never going to be sit back, kick your feet up.

649
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,960
Everything works for you and you have to do nothing.

650
00:34:53,960 --> 00:35:00,960
There is going to be work, even if you get it to that place with the VAs.

651
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,720
That's going to take months and months, if not years and years of building your business,

652
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:11,240
building processes, building procedures, kind of like we had Jared on last week.

653
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,320
He's all processes, right?

654
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,480
Processes before profits.

655
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,800
I feel like that should be somebody's YouTube reselling slogan, so feel free to steal it.

656
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:40,960
We appreciate you guys listening to this episode and we will talk to you next week.

