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Welcome back to another episode of the Resellers Mindset Podcast.

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My name is Mike, also known as the used book guy on YouTube,

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along with my friend and fellow full time reseller, Johnny B.

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We help people start and grow their reselling businesses from the ground up.

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Let's get into this week's episode.

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What is up, everybody?

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Welcome into episode 13.

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As always, JP needs to help me with the leftover digits.

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Well, he don't even know what he's doing here.

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13. Today's topic is going to be failing at reselling, right?

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How does it happen?

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Is it possible?

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Personally, you know, like it really depends how you define failing.

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Is it just one aspect of your business?

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Is it just giving up altogether?

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There's a million different things we can talk about in this call.

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And we're kind of going to jump into it.

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And I'll kind of lead off here with I would say my own failure

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in reselling would be trying to be an everything seller

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and getting burned out to a point where I have to completely change my business model.

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Because when you're selling everything, you need an everything size box,

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which doesn't exist, although, you know, maybe somewhere down the road,

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somebody develops a box where you can just, you know, anything size fits it perfectly.

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But that was kind of the biggest hassle with me.

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It's just the tub inventory system, right?

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Where you throw everything in the tub.

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I used to be that guy.

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And Deb used to, Deb used to yell at me all the time about it because it's like, OK,

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well, I know it's in the blue tub, but now I got to open the blue tub

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and dig through the blue tub to find it.

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And in the blue tub isn't just, you know, what I'm looking for.

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It's shoes, it's toys, it's games, it's everything.

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So it used to be a disaster for me.

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So I would definitely say I failed at selling everything.

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I didn't have a good enough inventory system.

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And I think that kind of boiled down to not having enough space, right?

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There are people that do everything selling really well.

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One person I could say that just re-ramped their whole inventory system

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and sent me a picture of it as a hauled by Hollys, Kyle on YouTube.

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He recently redid all his inventory.

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He used to kind of be like me where he had the space

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and everything was kind of just laid out around you.

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So you just say, all right, well, I know this is here, this is there.

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It's a mental thing, but there's no like physical way to track inventory.

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And he went to, you know, nice boxes on shelves.

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Everything's organized way better than it was.

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So it is possible to succeed at that, but I failed.

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So I'm going to throw it over to you here.

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I was only laughing at you because I did the same thing when I started.

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Everything just went in tubs.

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I don't even think there were different colors.

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But no, yeah, you can, and on the pre-inventory, you can over buy.

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And you can set yourself up for failure that way.

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Because if you're spending more than you're making, well, you're going to end

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up with no money at some point, keeping that up because the money's not coming

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in as fast as you need it to because cashflow is king in our business.

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Right.

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And as far as inventory management and cashflow or not cashflow, as far as

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inventory management and being an everything seller, it's totally doable.

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Like you mentioned, I know several other sellers that are everything sellers

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and they do just fine.

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Their life, in my opinion, would be easier if they were to settle on just a few things,

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but they like buying anything they make a buck on.

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They live off the flip, right?

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And the more flips and the different kind of flips they can make, that's their thing.

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And there's nothing wrong with that.

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Technically.

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I, for myself, just prefer to make it simple and easy as I can on myself.

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That kind of reselling is not for me, but it works for me.

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Not for me, but it works for other people.

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And like I said, there's nothing wrong with that.

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You think a lot of it is the expectations versus reality of reselling, right?

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So if you're, if you just were looking into reselling today and you're on social

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media, YouTube, all these big tick tock, I think, I think reselling kind of.

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In general, it gives you a false pretense that all you have to do is go to the

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thrift store and find the item and buy it.

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There's no really channels.

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I mean, there are channels, but the majority of the bigger channels kind of

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don't show you a lot of behind the scenes and kind of how the numbers break down.

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So I feel like a lot of people jump into it with this expectation that is

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actually like furthest from reality.

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No, that's, that's totally true.

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And I hate to say it and you're not one of these people, but there are other

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YouTubers and people on social media and bloggers and all that, that just

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post their sales numbers and sales is not your net dollars.

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What's coming back to you.

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Unfortunately, there's a few people that do it.

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It's not everyone that does just sales numbers, but for the majority, I would say

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the louder voices that put it out there constantly only speak in sales numbers.

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And that's not bottom line coming into your bank account.

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And then you got to factor in your taxes on top of that.

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Is that pre-tax dollars or before tax dollars?

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There's just a lot of variables and it's not that they're trying, necessarily

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trying to be dishonest, but it's hard to say, Hey, I made a thousand dollars.

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When it's like, no, you made $500.

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What video is going to do better?

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The thousand dollar video, of course.

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So I get it.

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I get it.

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It's a marketing thing for their video content or their blogging content

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or their podcast either.

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And I think that transparency transfers over to the individual reseller.

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They like to talk in big numbers too.

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We all do.

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We all like to put ourselves up a little bit better than we actually are.

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It just sounds nicer to us and it sounds nicer to other people.

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Is that bad?

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Question mark.

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I, again, I don't think it's a thing of dishonesty.

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I mean, it kind of is, don't get me wrong, but it's, it's a thing.

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I'm just going to say it's a thing.

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What do you think the timeframe is for somebody to quit reselling?

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If they started today, like how long do you think it is until the

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average brand new reseller quits?

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I would, I have this like two month number in my head for some reason.

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I was thinking three months, but I think that's a little long because I think two

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months, the first month you're kind of, all right, you're kind of gunhoe about it.

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You just started it and then you kind of, you're not getting the results.

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You're not listing the items or not getting the results.

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You're not listing the items are not selling.

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And then by the end of the second month, I feel like that's probably where people

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quit.

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What are your thoughts on that?

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You think that's a good timeframe for like new people that actually

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quit reselling altogether?

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I think it's longer than that.

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Actually, I think it's more like on six months and here's why.

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I agree with you.

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What you just said, that's when they're going to stop, but they're not

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going to stop thinking about it.

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I'll get back to it.

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I'll get back to it until like the six months cycle.

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And then they just don't think about it anymore.

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It's officially done.

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It's even out of their heads.

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They may write things down on paper.

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They may make plans, but they never execute on those plans.

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Or I got to get my listings up.

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I got to send my box out.

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They don't, it's just there.

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It's an annoyance to them and they just eventually give up.

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What, what will we say is the biggest cause for people failing?

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Would it be like, I mean, it's hard to kind of pinpoint like one thing, but I

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guess if you had to choose like a trait, I guess it would be like discipline

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and consistency or like the main two you kind of need.

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Right.

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Cause buying is the easiest part of what we do.

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Everything else is actual work after that.

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Right.

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Going to the post office, putting it up, packing it away, sending it off to Amazon.

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If you've never done an Amazon before your first go around is

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going to take you a little while.

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And that may, that may be defeating in itself.

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Oh, this is really hard.

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It's taking too much time.

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I don't think they really think about, I can get fat.

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I can get faster at this.

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I can get faster and better at this.

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They don't think along those terms.

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They think of the what's happening to them right now.

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Do they want to continue to do this?

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Cause I'll be honest, my first box, and this is before I used fancy software,

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old school style, like you, Mike took me four fricking hours.

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Cause I was so concerned.

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All the interface was new to me and I was using junky junk Amazon interface.

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Double checking your videos, making sure I had your video up on another

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monitor going step by step.

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That made it easier and faster.

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I didn't have that, it would probably take me close to six hours.

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It doesn't take, it takes me less than an hour now to do a box, but first time,

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six hours, that's kind of self, you're self defeating yourself.

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If you don't set yourself up, I can do better.

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I can get faster at this.

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I agree.

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Deb, Deb said, says it all the time.

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Like that first few boxes I did, she didn't say it out loud, but she said,

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there ain't no way this is going to work.

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You know, this is taking you forever.

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Like, cause I'm not the best with computers and everything.

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It's definitely like, it's a reality of it.

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And it's almost as if like you kind of hit it on the head.

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It's not really going out and finding inventory, whether or not you're going to fail.

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It's about getting your processes in place.

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I think that's like kind of the thing that gets overlooked the most.

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Most people, like you said, just go out.

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Going to a thrift store is fun.

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Buying stuff is fun.

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But if you don't have a process on the back end of what you're going to do with

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every single item you buy, then you're going to be, you're going to fail.

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That's all it comes down to whether you're new or whether you've been doing this forever.

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You might be getting away with the chaos now.

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You might be, you might've been getting away with it for the past year or two years.

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Sooner or later, it's going to catch up to you and the process, if you don't have it in place,

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you're done.

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You're just going to be wasting time and not going to be efficient.

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I still get it.

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I got a bulk pickup tonight, guys.

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I'm excited about it.

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I love buying.

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Buying is my favorite part.

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I think it's everybody's favorite part.

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But I do know when that stuff comes back, I got to process it all.

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I got to sort it for three distributions.

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Amazon, eBay, and Merchant Fulfilled Amazon.

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And then I got a price comp on eBay.

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I got, and then I got to, okay, now I got to pack a box or I got to put them on the shelves

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from Merchant Fulfilled.

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There's work that goes out of that.

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And then one sells, I got to ship it out, right?

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I think shipping is another failure.

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Do you mind if I segue to shipping?

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No, go ahead.

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Shipping is another failure on people's end because they'll do the three, four day thing,

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which will affect your sales.

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First of all, you got to ship fast.

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And that goes back to what you were saying about discipline.

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If you don't have like next day minimum, you're going to have less sales because of that.

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So you got to be disciplined to, okay, an order came in.

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I got to pack it today or I got to pack it tomorrow because that's a later.

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Tomorrow it has to go out the door.

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I think the hack with that is you have two day processing and you go and you pack your

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orders Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

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You don't pack anything Tuesday or Thursday because you don't have to.

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That's kind of the way I look at it unless I don't have anything else going on.

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I'll go grab orders because the unit's close enough for me.

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But I think that's the hack people need to get into.

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I do agree longer process and times aren't going to benefit you.

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We live in a world where everybody expects Amazon type deliveries where you get it within

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And that's just the reality of it, unfortunately.

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But I do agree shipping, having a plan for shipping.

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It could be another reason I talked about in the beginning.

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You got all these different sized boxes piled up wherever you're at in your house, your

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garage.

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It can turn into like you'd be like the blob.

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All of a sudden you're just like you got so much cardboard and and done edge laying around

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that it just it gets to be too much.

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Right.

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And then you got to factor in, especially you part-time guys.

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You got limited time, right?

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Are you doing your mail run on your lunch break?

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Are you going to go back home?

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Are you going to have that stuff in your car?

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So you waste less time going back home to go to the post office, your post office, even

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near your work.

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Is there a closer post office you can you got to factor all these in and especially.

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And let's say you were a full time guy.

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OK, well, you got you're at the point like where Mike and I are.

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You got a lot of orders came in over the weekend.

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I had about 60 books I had to pack on and get ready to go for Tuesday.

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So I pulled them the night before.

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I didn't pack the night before.

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I pulled them all, laid them out in the line.

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They needed to get done.

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I do my one at a time.

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I don't do that nonsense.

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We're probably able to once I think it's waste of time and confusing.

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So I did one at a time so I don't make mistakes because I can't afford to make mistakes,

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honestly.

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And then it was just a conga line of packaging.

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I got all the packaging.

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I looked at the books and speaking of packaging, I've streamlined my packaging to about

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four different packaging sizes.

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So I laid everything out in advance.

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So I came in here Tuesday morning.

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Took me about an hour to pack it all.

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And if I didn't do that, it probably would take me three to four hours,

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which was screwed up the rest of my day to pull, pack and ship

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because I can't afford a three hour loss on the day packing.

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Because I got to do my listings.

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I got to do my sourcing.

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I got to do my sorting.

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I got to do my put away.

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I got to do all this, that, and the other at the full time level.

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Do you think another reason people like fail at reselling or basically, you know,

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quit reselling is that they see other people around them success and they're not getting

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those results.

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So they think, you know, like it's, oh, well then forget about it.

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Right.

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I can't make, I don't know what, you know, you're doing.

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I don't know what JB is doing over there, but like, I can't, I can't come up with those numbers.

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So it's like, well, what am I supposed to do?

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Right.

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I'm not clearly, I don't know what I'm doing.

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It's like, you kind of just run yourself down and just decide to throw in the tail.

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No, I think very much so.

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And I think even though people stick with it, we can power ourselves to other research.

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I compare myself to you to be fair.

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And I'm sure you do the same, even though you'll never do eBay like I do it.

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But no, I mean, I think we all compare ourselves to other resellers, whether you.

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Decided to take the comparison as I'm done.

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I can't ever get to that or no, that's my motivation.

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I want to get to that.

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Cause I think that's the two side of the coins between sticking with it and quitting is

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you do that comparison and like, I want to be like that guy or I want to do better than

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that guy, especially if you have the super competitive personality type.

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If you're not as competitive, it's easier to go on the other side of the coin.

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Like I can't be at that level.

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I'm going to just going to quit or the other way you can take it.

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And I've seen people do this.

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I'm just going to do the best I can on my level.

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What, how am I going to do it?

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I'm never going to be like Mike.

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How am I going to do it?

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The best I can.

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What's my maximum potential?

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How can I live up to me?

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Not anyone else.

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That's the other way to take it.

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All right.

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I fall into the, I don't, I don't compare like myself, like with numbers anymore.

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I'm more or less when I see like, if I compare myself to you or somebody else in the group

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or another YouTuber, another Amazon seller, I look at the processes, right?

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Like I'm comparing my process to somebody else's because if I can refine my process,

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I'm in turn going to make more money.

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I know that sounds so weird to think about, but like I'm happy for people.

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Like, you know, you make a lot of money.

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I'm happy for you.

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I don't care if you're making more than me.

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I want to know, Hey, how are you getting that much out of your time?

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Right?

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What are you doing differently better than me?

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Because sales just comes with inventory.

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The more you list, the more you sell.

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That's just the way it works.

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But the processes are where you get your time back.

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So I'm kind of like, I seriously don't compare like my sales numbers to anybody else.

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Yeah, sure.

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It's like to shoot your number off.

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Oh, how are your sales today?

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Whatever.

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But it's, it doesn't bother me.

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I'm like, Hey, so what are you doing differently?

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Right.

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And I don't think, at least for me, I don't compare myself to whatever they put in their

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bank account.

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I compare myself to how many boxes they're sending out, how many listings they're doing,

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how many they sold.

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I don't care about the numeric value personally.

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I just want to have my sales frequency.

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I want to have my output frequency capacity go up.

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Those are the things I today I compare myself to.

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Would it be nice to have a bajillion dollars a year?

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Just like, I don't know, whatever big book selling company there is.

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Sure.

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But I don't, I want to know how they're doing, how they're doing that kind of output and

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start thinking along those lines.

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Maybe they've mastered shipping is the way they do it.

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They've mastered customer service.

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And I get they have employees.

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I get they have gigantic warehouses, which I don't have.

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I have a very small warehouse.

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But I factor in, okay, I'm at this level.

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They're doing that at that level.

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What can I put here on my level and mimic what they're doing and maybe even refine what

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they have to even something better.

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That's how I think.

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I got, I got a, the ultimate question here for this podcast coming at you right now.

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Is it possible to fail at reselling because you can't find inventory?

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In general or what we do?

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In general, I'm not saying you're, you're not.

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You don't have to, you're not niching down or anything.

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I'm just talking.

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You started reselling three months in.

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You say, I can't do this because I can't find anything to resell for profit.

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Is that possible?

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Oh, it's super general.

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It's not even, I chose a niche with really obscure objects like African art.

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No, I'm talking across the board.

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You just started, maybe we'll just say you're, you know, you're, you're still an everything

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seller.

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Can you, is it, is it possible?

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To say you can't, you don't have enough inventory in your area to be a reseller.

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I would say yes, but you have to be super, super, super remote.

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But the answer to that is go outside of your area or figure out how that area stuff to

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comes to you is the answer.

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But if it's literally eight out, like you live in a remote really small village in Alaska.

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Sure.

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You, you've got limited resources, but you got to figure out how to make those resources

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go to you, or you got to source all of your inventory, like a year supply at once.

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You take a week off of work, you get it all during that week and you haul it back.

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And that's your stuff for the year.

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So I'd say yes, but you can make it.

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No, but you got to put forth the effort to do so.

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Besides the anomaly of living outside of Anchorage.

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Any answers now?

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I 100% say no to this.

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It's not even an option.

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And I would even say, you know, if you live in the middle of nowhere, there's a lot of,

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a lot of people out there right now that just do away and don't leave their house and make

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a lot of money doing it.

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That's just laziness to me.

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Honestly, if you say you can't find inventory, are you, do you have flyers?

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Are you on Craigslist, Facebook, Nextdoor?

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There are so many different ways to source.

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And I don't want to hear, well, I got one Goodwill in my town and there's nothing there.

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Well, that's not, you don't have, you're not even trying.

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You go door to door.

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You got any books?

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You got any clothes back there?

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I sell fishing poles.

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You got fishing poles back there?

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You can make ways.

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As much as we sit here and kind of joke about it, I think a lot of people think that because

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they're so single focused on their one thrift store, their one Ross or Marshalls, if they're

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doing retail arbitrage, there's no like, no outside of what you see thinking.

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And I always say you got to think outside the box.

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That's how you're going to win.

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That's how you're going to get cheaper items, better items.

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And I think because all you really see is, you know, the main stores, right?

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Your retail arbitrage, people going in the same three stores, all your thrifters going

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in thrift stores, you know, they really want to get the thrift store.

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They really don't see a lot of behind the scenes of person to person buys, collection

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buys, things like that.

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There's so many different things you can do.

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I think since it's so mainstream now that a lot of people only think that is the way.

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So I think a lot of people can actually tell themselves like, hey, well, I went to my Ross

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or Marshalls and it sucked.

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So I can't find the inventory.

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So I quit.

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Right.

427
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Now I'm going to throw this back at you for the personality type that does not like to interact

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with other people that much going in the thrift store, the known thrift store and check it

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out.

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It's way easier getting on the phone, going door to door, driving around, hopping out

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and looking at these really obscure hidden in the back kind of shops and then talking

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to other people extensively or going to the flea market, which is a lot of interaction

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to if you've never been.

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I think that's much harder for that personality type to do and it's raining on them.

435
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Sure.

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But if you want to be in the business, you got to do it.

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You got to do it.

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I'm going to tell you an untold used book guy story from many, many, many, many moons

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ago when I used to live down in Philly, me and my partner, I used to work with.

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He was real big in the flea markets and we would dumpster dive in the goodwill.

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Dumpsters, they used to have the huge dumpsters and goodwill would just, you know, the stuff

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that didn't sell that won't even send to the bins back then.

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They would just throw it out.

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We're talking probably 15, maybe even longer years ago.

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So they would just throw it out in the dumpster.

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So he's like, Hey, yo, Mike, come with me.

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We'll go to a goodwill dumpster.

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We'll pick out a lot of stuff.

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We'll sell it at the flea market.

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No person interaction there, right?

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It's just you and the dumpster.

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And another thing that me and Deb used to do when I first started reading the book,

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realizing reselling was profitable.

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This is like, I mean, this is nitty gritty stuff here.

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We used to go around to the rich neighborhoods on trash night.

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At night, you know, it's dark out and we would drive around and just grab stuff from the trash,

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just sell it to flea markets.

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And we actually made decent money doing that.

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And there was no interaction with just me, you know, the raccoons that are in the trash

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waiting to hop out and bite Deb and whatever they got, right?

461
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That was kind of one of those ways where you really don't have to interact with people.

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And I even had people reach out to me through my Craigslist ad about doing,

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because I have in there contactless pickup, right?

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Leave your stuff on the porch.

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I'll put your money in an envelope, write my name and everything,

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leave you a receipt and put it right in your mailbox.

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People are also fine with doing that.

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So I think kind of the type of person that doesn't want to deal with other people,

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I don't think that even holds any water anymore either.

470
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No, I like that you spelled that out.

471
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That's perfectly fair.

472
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There's no excuse people.

473
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There's none.

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Mike has said so.

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I like it.

476
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I mean, you just, like I said, but you know, who on YouTube is going around filming a video

477
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that's popular that is driving around the rich neighborhoods at night by themselves,

478
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,440
grabbing stuff out of the trash.

479
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,400
It doesn't exist, right?

480
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,200
So you don't think that's-

481
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,200
It's a poor quality video because it's pitch black out.

482
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,200
You don't even think that-

483
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,480
Hold on, let's get the lighting equipment out and hover it over the trash cans.

484
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,000
Yeah, it's not even a thing, right?

485
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:18,000
So it's like people never even heard of that until they heard me just say that I do that, right?

486
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,200
They're like, oh damn, wait a minute.

487
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,720
Let me go to the rich neighborhood and see what they put out on trash night.

488
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,600
You'd be surprised.

489
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:29,040
And I mean, we have people in the group that do dumpster diving and I guarantee you,

490
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,200
you know, her having her buy cost is zero.

491
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,360
She's making a whole bunch of money.

492
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:34,160
And you know-

493
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,600
The only buy cost is gas, right?

494
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,320
You know where the inventory is going to be, right?

495
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,800
You know, you're going to that dumpster, it's going to be there.

496
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,320
And it's crazy to think about, but I do think the whole inventory thing is,

497
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,680
you know, that's not an excuse.

498
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,880
There's profitable inventory everywhere.

499
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,520
Everybody has yard sales, even if you live in the middle of nowhere.

500
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,480
So somebody is going to be getting rid of their stuff, you know, sooner or later.

501
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,200
And like you said, I say it all the time, right?

502
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,880
Part timers, if you had one bulk buy for 2000 items,

503
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,280
how long is that going to hold you over because you're doing this part time?

504
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,280
It's almost backwards thinking like you shouldn't be going out sourcing

505
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,720
from thrift stores if you're part time.

506
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,240
You should be looking for bulk deals because then you don't have to leave your house

507
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,640
and you can work around your schedule, not the thrift stores and your work schedule.

508
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,920
And when he says bulk deals, he's not speaking of Gaylord's.

509
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:30,480
No, no, I think the Gaylord thing is, I honestly think it's a thing of the past.

510
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,920
Unless you're doing huge volume and you have a lot of employees and a big old warehouse,

511
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,680
Gaylord's are a thing of the past.

512
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,280
It just doesn't make sense.

513
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,320
You want to go out and buy people's personal collections,

514
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,240
people looking to move and downsize.

515
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,520
That's where the money is, right?

516
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,760
I have one coming up and he's got all this stuff alphabetized.

517
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,840
And it's like, that's the kind of stuff where you're going to find the gold, right?

518
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,200
You're not getting no doubles.

519
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,520
Clearly this person takes care of their stuff.

520
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,000
So it's one of those things where, you know, that can literally change your whole business,

521
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,040
your whole income for the year if you're doing this part time.

522
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,560
Right.

523
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:13,040
And like myself, I call it I buy my own Gaylord's or I make my own Gaylord's with these bulk buys, right?

524
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,680
But I have a way to process my quote unquote duds.

525
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,480
They go to eBay.

526
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,560
I don't use the buyback program.

527
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,280
I don't donate, but I have a way to get rid of them.

528
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,440
I think that's key, especially for your part-time people.

529
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,680
Well, here's a fun question for you before I'm going to say it.

530
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,520
If you got to find a way to process your duds somehow, some way, get money off of them.

531
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:40,560
Now, my question to you, Mike, is you and well, I just buy it all.

532
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,880
I don't pre-scan it beforehand.

533
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,520
What would you advise on a bulk buy to a part-time guy?

534
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,520
Because they're going to get more reds than they are greens.

535
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,560
That's just the nature of the game.

536
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,160
You got to buy it all.

537
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,840
It's not they don't these people don't want to make money off it.

538
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,240
They want it gone and any little bit they can get.

539
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,080
You're providing a service more or less, you know, the money, right?

540
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,360
They want it all gone and they see that.

541
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:04,560
Hey, maybe I can get 20 bucks, 40 bucks, whatever is it, you know,

542
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,560
I can get a pizza tonight or something.

543
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,920
You're providing a service.

544
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:14,400
I wouldn't I just highly recommend not going in there and or even being like if they email,

545
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,440
you'd be like, hey, well, I can come through and scan all your stuff.

546
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,360
They do not want that.

547
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:23,840
I've never anybody I've come across and I have that conversation when I'm there.

548
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,960
It's always, oh, we're so glad to see it all gone, right?

549
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,960
We don't we got tired of seeing it around.

550
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,080
The wife wants it gone.

551
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,920
The husband wants the books gone.

552
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,680
There's a million different ways, but it all boils down to they want everything gone.

553
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,280
I never had somebody that's like, well, I'm going to keep this or I'm going to keep that.

554
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,880
Now it's they want it all gone.

555
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,400
They don't want anything to do with it anymore.

556
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,640
Just while you were speaking there, I figured out my advice to the part time guys

557
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,160
because bouncing off her call last week, if you haven't listened to her call from last week,

558
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:50,720
go listen to it.

559
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,800
It's about all about part time and full time people.

560
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:58,640
Find a guy like me and sell that eBay stuff to even less than what you bought it for.

561
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,720
You're going to make more money than your buyback programs.

562
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,720
You don't have to worry about what they're not going to take because people like me will take it all.

563
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,880
We'll know it's for eBay, especially if you're straight up with us.

564
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,520
And guess what?

565
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,960
We're going to call you all the time.

566
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,720
You just handle the greens for Amazon.

567
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,160
That makes your life cake.

568
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,920
If you live by me, I would literally just give you all my eBay crap.

569
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,160
That's where I'm at.

570
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,840
And I've even thought about doing that, finding somebody to do maybe a consignment with or

571
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,800
something like that.

572
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,800
But I'm much more selective with my eBay stuff.

573
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,160
So I really don't have a huge backlog of inventory waiting.

574
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,200
Can I speak about the box or no?

575
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:36,480
Yeah.

576
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,360
So Mike sent me a box of stuff he didn't want to deal with.

577
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:43,200
What I loved about Mike's box was all his books were clean.

578
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,160
Like I'm used to dealing with filthy books, water damage books, all this.

579
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,800
Mike sent me a nice box of clean looking books.

580
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,760
They're all free.

581
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,360
They're all free from the library too.

582
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,320
So I mean, people take care of their stuff.

583
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:03,840
I mean, for the most part, I do have an, I got another box coming your way probably this week.

584
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,280
I texted you the other day about that junk.

585
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,560
I got to get through that box still.

586
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,920
It's like, I'm going to get through that box.

587
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,040
I'm going to get through that box.

588
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,280
I got to get through that box still.

589
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,560
It's only when I have left of the books, I just throw it to the side because Deb was

590
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,520
scanning everything else.

591
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:24,800
But find somebody like this crazy person who loves eBay and say, hey, I'll send you a box

592
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,200
of books.

593
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,320
You cover shipping and maybe give me five bucks or something like that.

594
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,520
You don't even got to deal with it.

595
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,720
You just throw it in a box.

596
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,120
I mean, you don't even got to do what I do and make sure it's nice and neat.

597
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:34,720
You just throw it in there and send it off.

598
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,440
Most people don't care.

599
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,560
They just want the inventory.

600
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,280
Yeah, and the huge sellers, you can't have enough inventory because that's how you grow.

601
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,920
But kind of back on the topic of failing, it's like if you're not consistent, and I

602
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,960
know it's hard to be consistent when you're part-time, especially if you want to have

603
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,880
this on the side and be serious about it, life happens.

604
00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:01,680
So you got to kind of mitigate life happening and kind of try to stay a week, two weeks ahead

605
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,480
of it.

606
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,680
And I'm guilty of this.

607
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,200
There's a lot of things I don't get ahead of, and I always tell myself I should.

608
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,400
But being part-time, it's hard to be consistent.

609
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,000
And I think when you're not consistent, you might be thinking about it.

610
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,720
But if you're not taking action, you're not going to get results.

611
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,160
And it's almost as if you keep thinking about you're going to do this, you're going to do

612
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,600
this, and it never happens.

613
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,120
And you keep telling yourself, oh, I'm going to be able to make this much money, and it

614
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:25,920
doesn't happen.

615
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,400
It's just like a never-ending cycle burnout.

616
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,320
And that's why a lot of people go away.

617
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,000
I got an answer for that.

618
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,320
In my other group, there's a lot of parents.

619
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:40,560
I'm talking anywhere from a single child infant still waking up at 2 a.m. kind of thing to

620
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040
like the person who has 15 kids.

621
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,160
They got no time, right?

622
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,400
None, because all the time is dedicated to the kids.

623
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,760
Well, they've given up sleep in one of two areas.

624
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,600
Either they're getting up before the kids get up or they're staying up until after the

625
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,840
kids go to bed to do their reselling business.

626
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,160
That's the only solution I've seen work for those kind of people that have zero time.

627
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,880
They either stay up late or they get up early and they get their work done and they go about

628
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,240
their life because life for those people, it's go, go, go, go all day.

629
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,680
I would say that if you're new when you're doing this and you're kind of on the fence,

630
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,280
reselling doesn't have to work, right?

631
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,800
It's OK to decide, hey, this business isn't for me, right?

632
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,400
It happens every day.

633
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,200
Large companies, they decide, hey, we want out of this, right?

634
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,960
We don't want to do this no more.

635
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,320
So I think it's OK to quit reselling or decide to do something else with your life.

636
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,760
I think that kind of gets lost, right?

637
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360
Just because you decided to stop reselling doesn't mean you're a failure.

638
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,880
You can go do whatever you want in life.

639
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,240
You can do anything.

640
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,880
A million ideas out there you probably have in your head that you are wanting to do.

641
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Maybe this just isn't a good fit.

642
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,160
So I don't think just because you didn't succeed at reselling that, you know, that's it.

643
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,280
You're a failure in life.

644
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,400
That's not the case at all.

645
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,040
This is literally one little microcosm of the world.

646
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,560
Right.

647
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,360
And if you want to take a step back and say, I'm not even a part time, I'm a hobbyist,

648
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,920
and you've got to be OK with that, though.

649
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,880
Don't compare yourself.

650
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,160
Don't compare yourself to the numbers.

651
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,320
Don't compare yourself to what other people are doing.

652
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,440
You're a hobbyist.

653
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,960
And at that point, have as much fun with it as you want.

654
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Have as much fun with it as you want.

655
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Buy all the things, buy all the crazy things for all the crazy boxes.

656
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,600
But you got to make that accept.

657
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,280
You have to have that acceptance for yourself, though, that I am a hobbyist.

658
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,780
That's it.

659
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,840
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660
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,320
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661
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