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Welcome back to another episode of the Resellers Mindset

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podcast.

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My name is Mike, also known as the used book guy on YouTube,

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along with my friend and fellow full time reseller, Johnny B.

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We help people start and grow their reselling businesses

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from the ground up.

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for all YouTube members.

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Head on over to youtube.com backslash

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Let's get into this week's episode.

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What is up, everybody?

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Welcome into another episode of Resellers Mindset podcast.

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Mike sitting next to Johnny.

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Johnny didn't tell me the topic today.

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He's playing hard to get.

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And I'm A-OK with it because I've

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tortured this guy over hundreds and millions of these episodes.

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So Johnny, take us away.

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The topic for today, why are people lazy?

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Why do we think this is?

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I got I'm going to answer this real quick.

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Because it's nice to sit on my big butt

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and watch unsolved mysteries underneath my heated blanket

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with my big glass of iced tea and not do anything.

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It's just easier to be lazy.

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I mean, it's 20 degrees out this morning.

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I got to record a YouTube wrap up at some point today.

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Do you think I want to go out there, dude?

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I got the heater blown on me right here.

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You guys can't see it.

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Yeah, the easy option every time is to be lazy.

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But the problem is the money that things don't happen

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if I sit on my ass all day and watch unsolved mysteries.

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Right.

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And it's abundant.

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And I think either I get angrier each year

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or it gets worse each year.

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One of the two.

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I don't know.

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But I see questions come up like, oh, the sourcing's

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an hour away.

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I don't want to go more than an hour.

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That's me.

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It's raining outside.

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I can't go sourcing.

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What do you mean?

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It rains all the time.

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I think the bigger issue with it is when you're not

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rocking and rolling, and we all know everybody's

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had a tough year, right?

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I mean, yeah, my sales are up, but that's just because I've

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been going kind of crazy.

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So everybody's had a tough year.

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And there is the point of where you're not getting results.

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I mean, think about it.

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If me or you were in the domes and we were out here

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putting in the time and the sales aren't coming in,

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you're not really seeing the results yet.

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And we know starting this business, especially

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in the Amazon land, you're at like a three to six month

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trajectory to even get some money coming back

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into your bank account.

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You ain't got the motivation because there's

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nothing coming in the bank.

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And you're like, well, why am I going to keep doing this?

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So is it laziness?

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I don't know what the other term would be.

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It's just like trying to give it up on the business model.

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I always tell everybody, don't give up.

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You just got to see it through.

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Give yourself a fair shot.

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Only reason we do this is just so we

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can be proof of concept so somebody else can be like, OK,

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these guys suck their first six months, first year, first two

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You just got to see it through and keep going.

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I mean, you're not going to get rich.

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It's instant gratification.

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That's what makes people lazy and reselling

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because you really don't get it.

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I don't know if it's laziness or smartness, honestly.

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I see a bunch of people trying to figure out the AI stuff

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to automate listings, more or less, and or do price research

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and or historical research of providence of books and stuff.

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And to me, it's like, why don't you just do a listing?

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Just put it up and be done.

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But then you have, and then the other flip side of it

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is how to do imports and all that kind of fun stuff.

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So what are your thoughts?

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I think we do feel like, like you said,

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it's hard to describe laziness because some people feel

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like they're working really hard.

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But then if somebody else looked at their business,

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I mean, I don't even care.

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I'm going to grab myself, throw myself under the bus here

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just for this comparison.

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So when you were sending heavy boxes,

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you're sending like six, seven boxes a day.

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I'm sitting over here sending my three to six a week.

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It's easy.

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And I do think this is something that it's hard to,

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hard for somebody that's part time or not out there going,

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going, going, going.

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You feel like you're almost inferior

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to these other resellers, some of these big resellers

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you see out there.

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And of course, you're not going to be motivated.

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I mean, it's easy to beat yourself up with.

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Not many people are going to be like me and be like,

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I accept who I am.

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I accept this is the business I have,

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regardless of the guy that's sitting next to me

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that I deal with on a daily basis.

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Whatever numbers he's doing, it doesn't change my business.

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It doesn't change how I think about myself or my business.

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But the problem is all you see out there

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in the realm of reselling YouTube, social media,

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it's all these huge people.

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I suck in comparison.

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So I'm not even going to bother.

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Because I'm never going to be Johnny

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and send seven boxes a week.

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I'm never going to be this person

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and do this amount of dollars a year.

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And you just kind of quit on yourself.

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No, I can see that.

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I mean, you're coming into this.

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You think you're doing real good.

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And you ask your colleagues and your peers what they're doing.

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And your numbers are now trivial in comparison.

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You can really get self-defeated.

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And your self-esteem can go right out the window.

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I get that.

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But yeah, I'm just seeing people trying to take.

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I don't want to.

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OK, I view it as shortcuts.

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Like, why are you short-cutting this?

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Just do the work and get it done.

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But they're trying to build tools

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and go with tools that will possibly, I'm not convinced.

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I'm going to say possibly make them more efficient.

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Because I've seen the results of these.

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I'm like, my listing would be better than this.

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Because it's computer-generated AI, whatever.

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I'm like, it's, I don't think it's there yet.

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But anyway, that's me.

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I don't think it's there yet.

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But I do think you can be lazy and still get results

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in reselling, right?

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It's not like it used to be.

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We've talked about it a million times,

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where you can't just throw anything up and it sells.

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But I mean, I wouldn't say what I do is lazy.

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It's more calculated.

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So you get your time back.

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But you still keep the results going in a direction

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you want them to go.

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Sure, if it comes to the point where I got to work more,

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in quotation marks, because I don't consider reselling work,

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then I could easily do that.

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You can get one of these listing softwares that

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lists your items everywhere.

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It can use the stock photos.

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You never have to take a photo.

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So that lazy business does exist.

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But the only thing that comes with that

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is you need thousands and tens of thousands of units

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available for sale at any single time,

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because they're not quality items.

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They're not quality listings.

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think is in the lazy column.

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But I think people are so unaware of it.

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And it's very similar to what you said.

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They have a listing goal, or they

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have a number of boxes a week goal,

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and they're sending crap that will never sell.

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Or the sell throughs so terribly slow,

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they start hurting for money in the long run,

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because they're just trying to reach this quota number

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that they have assigned themselves, when

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if they were to reduce that quota number

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and focus on quality items and or try

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to source their quota number of just quality items,

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they would have a great business, honestly.

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But I see people not have this light bulb moment.

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You know what?

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I'm going to stop listing crap.

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I'm going to get good stuff that will actually sell.

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I don't know where that line's missed from the beginning

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to the middle part of their reselling career,

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but it seems to be missed a lot, I think.

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It's this competition thing.

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They think if they list more, they'll get these big numbers.

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That's not the case.

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No, I think you can actually not spend a lot of time.

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I'll die on this hill right now, this statement

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I'm going to make, because I do believe it's factual.

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You could source, you can give me one day a week,

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eight hours a week, one day.

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One that's like one work day.

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Really not even, because most people work more than eight

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hours a day now.

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One eight hour day a week, I think,

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with time you can easily make $1,000 in profit a week.

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Eight hours, definitely.

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It has to be a good solid eight hours, but it's doable.

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Yeah, it's basically what I do.

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I just add a little bit on top of that.

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You have to be tactical.

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The idea, and this is another big thing,

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this could be a whole other episode,

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resellers that are always working in quotation marks.

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Like, I struggle to find, like, how many things can I

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work on in my reselling business?

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There really isn't that, there's no way I could,

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the only thing I could fit in to put more hours in

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would be me sourcing, which means driving further,

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running a different route across state lines.

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So this idea, I struggle when people say, hey,

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I'm doing this 40, 50 hours a week.

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if you're running thrifting routes and cherry picking,

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you better be making a lot of damn money.

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These people exist.

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I have one-on-ones with them every single month.

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But these people that aren't getting results,

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and you're like, well, I'm 40, 50 hours a week,

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I'm thinking to myself, what are you doing?

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You're going to one store a day?

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Like, that is not no type of tactical approach.

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Are you going to the same bins every single day?

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Sure, you might hit the gold bar here and there,

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but it's not scalable.

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Right, and even for you, all that extra sourcing

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would yield into more space, and then you have more problems

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with more space, that's just how expanding goes.

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Just everything breaks when you expand,

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and then you have to fix it, and it no longer breaks,

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and then you maintain, and sorry if you want to grow

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or maintain forever, if that's your choice.

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You sometimes feel lazy.

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I run into this every once in a while too.

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You feel lazy because you're not always out there, right?

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You're not always in the thrift stores.

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You're not always doing something in the business,

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or you take your day off, and it's kind of like,

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I don't know, it's kind of toxic to always be thinking,

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you always got to be working in the business,

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and I used to be terrible with this.

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I used to be the worst one.

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Deb used to always tell me, dude, chill out.

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Pump the brakes for a second, you can have a day off,

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and you feel lazy because you're like,

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well, I'm taking a day off, and now I'm on the other mind

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side, well, you know what, I put in the work,

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I got 5,000 items sitting available for sale at Amazon

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that are all cherry picked, that are going to sell.

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If I don't feel good today, or I don't

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feel like going to do X, Y, and Z for the business,

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it's not that I'm lazy.

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You're just giving yourself a day off, which any other job,

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any other salary job in the universe,

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you have days off every single week.

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But resellers, we can't.

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We've got to be seven days a week.

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We've got to be eat, sleep, breathe.

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If I'm not reselling, I've got to be watching a reselling

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video.

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If I'm not watching a reselling video,

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I've got to be listening to a podcast.

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It's like you just, people get so entrenched with it,

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and it's just, it can get to a point

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where it just drags you down.

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What's up, Amazon sellers?

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We wanted to take a second to talk about GoToLister,

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the software me and Johnny both use

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or using the link in the description below.

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It's so easy to get self-defeated in this business.

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There is everything to be like, you're nothing.

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You're worse than nothing.

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You just joined the Marines, and it's boot camp,

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drill sergeants, chewing into you, kind of nothing.

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Real easy.

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And it's just ignoring all of that and just doing the work.

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You have the results, and that's all the validation

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you honestly need, is your work pays off.

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If your work isn't paying off,

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we'll make adjustments in your business.

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And to another side of laziness,

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when did people get so lazy they can't even Google?

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That's probably the biggest one for me.

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It's like, when do we like Googlings too hard?

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Let me just ask a mass amount of people

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something I could just simply Google.

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It's like, where did this happen?

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Was this a 2018 decision?

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I wasn't there for the vote,

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and I would have voted the other way, personally.

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We all need to get those Alexa,

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or whatever they're called,

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the speakers you can have in your house.

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I tell Deb all the time.

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I'll be laying there in bed, and I have this dumb question.

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I'm like, I wish I just had one of those speakers.

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I could be like, hey, Johnny,

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what's the square root of this?

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And it just tells you the answer,

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because I think that's the main reason

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you'll never really get into having a YouTube channel.

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I don't know, because I know deep down,

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if somebody asks you something stupid, right,

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and you know that Google's the first result

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on the AI response when Google's gonna be the right answer,

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I know you're just sitting over there

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like slamming your big gulp down on the table.

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You're throwing stuff around, like just Google it.

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GTS, man, Google that shit, come on.

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No, and it's not even these convoluted,

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complicated, multi-tier questions.

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It's a simple question of,

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where are the thrift stores in my area?

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I don't know, what's your zip code, mother?

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Let me type it in for you.

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Here, let me share my screen.

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You can do screenshots even.

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I think it's, yet again,

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it goes back to the instant gratification

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and the, I don't know, the culture when it comes to,

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I mean, and I'll be straight out,

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most people, most resellers, a lot of big resellers,

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they won't even respond to all of their comments.

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Sure, there's some that do,

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and I respond to all my comments.

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And it is kind of brain rotting me

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sitting there answering the same question

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if they would just go to the channel.

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And I've gotten a little better.

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I'm nowhere near as good.

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I should just let Deb answer the comments

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because she's like, just tell them that

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you got a video on the channel

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and go search it on the channel.

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And it's just like, yeah,

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that's probably exactly what I should have said.

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For some reason, it's because resale

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has been spun into this thing, Johnny,

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where it's get rich quick

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and you don't have to do a lot of work.

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So you already go in with this mindset

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that you can be lazy and get away with making money.

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Because what you see out there is,

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hey, I just said it, spend eight hours a week

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and make an extra thousand dollars every single week.

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While people go into that thinking their first week,

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that's gonna be them, they're gonna make a thousand dollars.

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And they don't say, well, hey,

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it's gonna be five, six, seven months

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until you actually get it to that point.

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It's not what's shown

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and it's not what's really portrayed.

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Even when there's news articles about reselling,

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it's always something crazy like,

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stay at home dad's making millions of dollars

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while raising his 50 kids by himself

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and he works two hours a week.

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And that's just what people expect.

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So you can go in almost thinking, hey, this is easy.

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I don't gotta do much work.

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I can be lazy, I can take days off

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and I'm still gonna get the money.

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When in actuality, it has shifted so much

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that that exists for a small, small percent.

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But that's what you see out there.

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You see the big hits coming from the thrift stores.

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You don't see all the other thousands of people

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in the thrift stores that are scanning with their eBay app.

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They got their sound all the way up.

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I hear that stupid dinging all over the store.

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And I think to myself, this poor soul's got no chance.

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They don't even know how to turn the volume down

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on their phone and they're scanning on the eBay app.

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It's like, it lives in my, it's like nightmare fuel.

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That stupid, have you ever scanned a barcode

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with the eBay app?

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Yeah, I have.

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I didn't like it.

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It just makes this loud ding.

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You know exactly that it's eBay

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and you hear them in every thrift store.

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So think about it.

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You, somebody that's new to reselling, watches a video,

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they see these people bringing home all this stuff.

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They go to their stores.

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How many of these people that aren't finding

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all the gold bars are out there?

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And they're just like, well, I guess, I guess, you know,

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it's not as easy, but you go in thinking,

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well, I'll come back in a month and maybe I'll find something.

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And then you never come back because you're just like,

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now I'm too lazy, forget about it.

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I'd rather just kind of be, you gotta want it, right?

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You gotta want it because if not,

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you're just gonna be lazy about it.

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If you just wanna, it's easier to just stay in your job

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or stay in the same situation that you have

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instead of trying to make a change,

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make some changes in your life

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and go out there and actually get it.

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I mean, people, I don't know.

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I mean, there's something to that.

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You gotta be willing to change yourself to be successful.

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I truly believe what you're saying there.

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And why are people so resistant?

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They think there's a better, easier, lazier path.

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It's like, why?

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No, that's not how success works.

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And then you have lazy people trying to cheat the system,

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selling new items is not new.

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And that's just another form of laziness and or,

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you know what, I'm not cleaning any discs.

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They're all going in.

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And it's like, why?

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You could work just a little bit harder and be above board

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and not risk your whole account going kablooey.

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I don't know, man.

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It's just humans are multifaceted.

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I'll give them that.

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And there's different personality types

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and different emotions and different backgrounds of people,

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very complex layers, right?

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But when it comes down to reselling,

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it's do the work, get paid,

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and then do the correct work and get paid even more.

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And then doing that over and over again for years,

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it's very much a long game.

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It's not a short game in my opinion,

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because every time you're wanting to change

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something fundamental, well, it costs money.

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If you're wanting an employee, if you're wanting extra space,

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if you're wanting new equipment,

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if you're wanting a truck instead of a car

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because you're upgrading, because you can haul more,

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all these fun little things.

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But that all comes with the initial work.

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And it's the avoidance of work or trying to shortcut the work

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where I see people, well, fall flat on their face

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and start anew or you never see them again

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because they're broke and folded up shop.

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I still think we should have some type of reselling graveyard

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over in the Discord or people that used to be on all the calls

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and they're no longer there and we can just drag them over.

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We can hold like a memorial service every single year

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for all the resellers that have come and gone.

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But I think it's another part of it is it's hard for somebody

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that's brand new to replicate what they see, right?

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Like when I have coaching sessions with people

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that are brand new, first thing I tell them is,

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listen, you're not going to get the same results as me.

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I've been doing this for years, right?

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Sure, what you see on YouTube is me out there scanning,

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finding X amount of items, but you're not going to be

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the best at something when you start it.

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Like it does not exist.

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All the greatest people in their fields, they went to school,

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they trained the sport for years and years and years to get there.

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But for some reason in the reselling world,

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we think that we can start the business today

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and we're going to go find the gold bars

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and we're going to be making all the money

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because that's what you see.

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And the second you don't, that's it, you're done

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because it's a lot easier to be like,

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well, I'm just not going to go do it today

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because I'm not finding the stuff these other people are finding

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and it just enables you to be more lazy

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than to actually go out there and do it.

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Yeah, I've got one that I recently had happen to myself.

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Somebody asked for a price evaluation of a book

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because I couldn't find any results.

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I'm like, okay, fine, I'll Google this for them.

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I did it, it was really quick

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and I couldn't find anything really either.

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I'm like, well, based off the information, I'm like 50 bucks

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because I can't find your exact book.

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Another guy comes along, he's been doing this 30, 40 years,

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he knows the exact auction weird website to go to.

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He's like, Johnny's wrong, it's $500, that extra zero to that.

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Here's the link to it.

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I'm like, damn, I got schooled.

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And it's fine, it's fine.

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He's been at this a lot longer than me.

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He knows every little rabbit hole to go down to be exact.

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I'm like, yeah, I mean,

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but I don't know how much time you put into that,

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00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,680
but you're correct, you win, sir.

515
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,880
And that was me being lazy, that really was.

516
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,080
I could have spent another couple of hours to dig that up,

517
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,680
but it's not my book.

518
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,600
I don't, it's not for me.

519
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,120
I just try to help out really quick,

520
00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:50,600
but that was me being lazy.

521
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,200
That's a poor instance.

522
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,760
Hey, if you want to start donating your time,

523
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,040
you can just do all my calls.

524
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,360
Yeah, I know, it's not charity work

525
00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,560
and I don't get paid for it, so yeah.

526
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,960
You get the $50 answer, not the $500 answer.

527
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,680
They sign up for the one-on-one, right?

528
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,560
And they expect me to show up and you show up,

529
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,680
and they're like, shit, it's Johnny, not Mike.

530
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,400
Maybe that'll be like the new thing like for the YouTube,

531
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,640
when you sign up for the one-on-ones,

532
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,600
it's like, you don't know who you're gonna get

533
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,960
for your one-on-one, but you've got your-

534
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,160
It's like a mid-tier, the 750, and it's like a button.

535
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,600
Big money, no Johnny, no Johnny.

536
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,600
Johnny, damn it.

537
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,080
I think if you think about it,

538
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,920
you can't be lazy in this, right?

539
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,960
I've classified myself as being a quote unquote

540
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,600
in comparison lazy reseller,

541
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,880
because I'm only in it 20 hours a week,

542
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,800
and that's not hard, intensive labor.

543
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,920
And I think the other route, like you were talking about,

544
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,320
is you can almost be lazy if you bust your ass

545
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,800
for the one to five years it takes to build this business,

546
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,960
where you can hire people and step out of the business,

547
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,760
and then you're just the guy that has to deal

548
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,840
with the big problems, right?

549
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,160
Like maybe the logistics or just getting the inventory,

550
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,640
you're not actually listing,

551
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,840
you're not actually lifting the books.

552
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,760
And what I've seen really recently,

553
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,320
and I saw this a few years ago,

554
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,960
and then the trend died off, and now it's back.

555
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,720
People are starting reselling,

556
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,680
and they're instantly hiring a VA,

557
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,840
and they don't know their business.

558
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,120
What is 50 cents an hour, dude?

559
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,000
And that's like a badge of honor.

560
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,840
No, no, no.

561
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,040
I'm seeing people go the other way.

562
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,720
They'll say 50 cents a listing or a dollar a listing.

563
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,000
And it's like, I agree, a VA can be a useful tool,

564
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,200
but you should at least know what you're doing first

565
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,640
before you get one,

566
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,720
so you can teach the VA how to run your business.

567
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,520
Dude, you are reselling.

568
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,920
You need this middle part of knowledge

569
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,920
to transfer to this low wage worker.

570
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,040
We as resellers, as single persons,

571
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,040
as single person operators or couple,

572
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,600
whatever it may be,

573
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,440
one, two, three, even if it's a family of four or five,

574
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,000
the potential and money you can make by yourself

575
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,880
is astronomical.

576
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,920
So this idea that we need,

577
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,520
and I haven't seen it come back.

578
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,280
I feel like in 2023,

579
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,880
that's every video that I've seen on YouTube

580
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,800
was like, hire somebody, hire us.

581
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,920
I quite haven't seen it, but you're in another group,

582
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,240
so I can see it coming.

583
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,280
The VA thing definitely is like the hottest thing in Amazon.

584
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,320
When I joined reselling, VA was hot,

585
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,960
and then it stopped and people fired their VAs.

586
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,880
Now it's back.

587
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,920
Now it's back.

588
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,280
Like Shady's back.

589
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:29,960
I don't think you need an employee

590
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,560
till you're doing well over six figures reselling by yourself.

591
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,600
I don't care if that's eBay, Amazon, Bonanza,

592
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,800
whatnot, McCarrie, Poshmark, Etsy.

593
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,280
You can get a lot done.

594
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,840
I mean, I've been in the trenches,

595
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,840
Deb's, she built her own brand.

596
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,360
She's had days, multiple days, weeks in a row

597
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,480
where it's sun up to sun down.

598
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,040
The machines are running, we're stitching,

599
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,240
we're stuffing cat and dog toys.

600
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,160
And you think to yourself, okay, well,

601
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,120
let's take a step back and look at this.

602
00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:01,720
Well, how much money are you making?

603
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,080
How long can you do this for?

604
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,440
And then you can think about that.

605
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,440
But I mean, it's gotta be at least six figures

606
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,160
before you even think of,

607
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,600
dude, I do over six figures in sales

608
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,960
and I'm working 20 hours a week.

609
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,800
Why the hell would I ever need a VA?

610
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800
I could just work more and make more money myself.

611
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,080
I think it's the badge of honor.

612
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,040
And I think it is the laziness

613
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,680
of people trying to cut corners.

614
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,600
But I mean, you got services now out there

615
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,800
where you can send your items and they'll photo it for eBay

616
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,480
and they'll actually store it

617
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,600
and then they'll ship it for you when somebody orders it.

618
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,880
So they almost have like an Amazon FBA service out there now.

619
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,240
Right, like a prep center, right?

620
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,800
Like Amazon has the prep center,

621
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,000
which is the equivalent of VA Lister on eBay, essentially.

622
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,840
Yeah.

623
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,200
But yeah, it's like, at least get five,

624
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,720
at least do 5,000 listings in my opinion,

625
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,160
whether they're drafts or actives,

626
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,640
take you maybe a year or two

627
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,320
if you're doing this on part-time.

628
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,400
Or at least get to 5,000 active units on Amazon

629
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,920
before you use a prep center,

630
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,280
unless you're dealing with refrigerators from the get-go.

631
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,440
I think there's this do it yourself,

632
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,520
learn all you can moment.

633
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,000
And then people are unwilling to take that.

634
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,200
You're like, you know what?

635
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,120
I want an easy life.

636
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:16,880
I'm hiring a VA right now.

637
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,440
I've never even launched a listing.

638
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,800
I don't even know what a listing looks like

639
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,160
and I'm gonna hire a VA.

640
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,280
Well, you're more around like the eBay VAs.

641
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,720
I'm more around the Amazon VAs.

642
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,560
Yeah, that's true.

643
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,400
I'm curious.

644
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,480
So I hate eBay.

645
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,840
I hate listing on eBay.

646
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,160
So you're telling me-

647
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,480
Most everybody does hate listing.

648
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,200
I go to like, I don't know,

649
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,880
one of these websites,.ph and get my VA.

650
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,440
So I just take the photos and what?

651
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,200
Just upload them into like a Google Drive

652
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,520
and then they create the listings?

653
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,360
Correct.

654
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,280
You give them the limited eBay access

655
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,080
and you give them the criteria of how you want it listing.

656
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,320
And they may get it wrong and then you retrain them.

657
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,560
Eventually they'll get it right.

658
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,280
And then you have a lister.

659
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,880
And you either do it by the listing

660
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,840
or you do it by the hour.

661
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,720
In my opinion, the hour is the way to go over the listing.

662
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,880
All right, maybe I'm crazy.

663
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,520
Maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong.

664
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,160
But I got an eBay hot take coming in here.

665
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,480
What you wanna do,

666
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,040
I feel like that's the most important part

667
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,840
is the item description and the title.

668
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,360
Because the photos, even if it's described correctly

669
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:24,440
and it's got a good title

670
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,800
and the item descriptions are correct,

671
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,080
I think you can still sell an item with crappy photos.

672
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,720
It's got a correct description

673
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,840
versus the other way around where you have the best photos

674
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,320
and the title is completely wrong

675
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,920
and there's no item descriptions.

676
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:41,160
Yeah, I think, I mean, all of it's important,

677
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,440
but as far as the priority goes,

678
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,160
I think title needs to be searchable.

679
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,600
They gotta be able to find it.

680
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,760
And then your photos have to make it look

681
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,040
what the product you're is gonna get.

682
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,200
And then the item specifics,

683
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,000
I think that'd be the totem pole order in my opinion.

684
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,880
Are they hiring, is it US based VAs?

685
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,360
Are they doing the Amazon route where it's like oversees?

686
00:26:58,360 --> 00:26:59,440
It's all foreign.

687
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,000
You're paying like,

688
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,800
you're paying either like 50 cents a dollar a listing

689
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,720
and then hourly,

690
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,280
you're probably in the three to $4 an hour range.

691
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,560
Yeah, I'm out.

692
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,360
I mean- If you pay more, you can,

693
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,280
I don't know, keep,

694
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,960
the other part about VAs is they're notorious for outsourcing

695
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,240
if you pay like $2 an hour.

696
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,200
They'll give it to grandma McGee over there to do the work.

697
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,400
They'll take a dollar, grandma will get a dollar,

698
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,000
but you're never consistent with the quality of work.

699
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,320
See, that's why you have to end up in the, I think,

700
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,920
five to $6 an hour range if you want a really good VA

701
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,320
and you wanna maintain them.

702
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,640
I think it's worthwhile to say, right?

703
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,960
Like when you had your employees,

704
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,840
you were paying them a good fair wage above what,

705
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,200
they would make it any other place.

706
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,080
And I would say you got,

707
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,760
if you compared the wages like versus you hiring a VA

708
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,720
versus you hiring somebody and the person you hire,

709
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,800
you're paying 10X,

710
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,360
I feel like you're getting way more than 10X

711
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,640
with that person that's right there next to you

712
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,600
that is capable of understanding and teaching

713
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,000
and learning the business versus somebody that lives

714
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,360
on the other side of the universe

715
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,120
who has no idea how anything works.

716
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:14,880
Right, and I think you're able for an in-house team,

717
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,160
even though you're paying the in-house team more,

718
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,840
you can catch mistakes a lot quicker than you could a VA.

719
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,800
VA may do 500 units and there's 500 mistakes

720
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,920
that need to be redone.

721
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,560
Okay, here's your money for the mistake worked.

722
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,960
And now here's the new money

723
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,080
for you to do all the corrections.

724
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,600
You did the same thing for an employee, don't get me wrong.

725
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,840
I'm not gonna dock their wages

726
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,520
because you have fucked up more or less.

727
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,200
But I do, I think I can catch it easier if it's in-house,

728
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,560
at least that's my personal experience

729
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,080
because I'm walking around, I'm doing things,

730
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,440
I spot them doing something wrong versus a VA, I don't know.

731
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,880
I mean, they got screenshot logs and all that

732
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,400
that you gotta review or whatever,

733
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,640
but that's not multitasking, catching something kind of deal.

734
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,240
Like I was saying, walking around the shop,

735
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,240
I'm doing my thing, they're doing theirs.

736
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,680
I think those mistakes can be caught a lot quicker.

737
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,640
Now, I'm gonna say this, I'm not opposed to VA.

738
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,240
I think they're wonderful tools.

739
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,680
And that's not meant as a joke.

740
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,160
An employee is a tool of mine.

741
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,920
A VA is a tool of mine to use,

742
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,400
to pull out of the toolbox when needed.

743
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,280
But to the point of,

744
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,640
I think you gotta know what you're doing

745
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,440
before you hire an employee.

746
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,640
How do you have a standard operating procedure

747
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,440
if you've never had one for your own self?

748
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,480
You gotta be making money too, dude.

749
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,240
Yeah, you're gonna be bleeding money.

750
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,640
Even if it's three bucks an hour, right?

751
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,240
That's not productive work.

752
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,960
I mean, unless you're, I think a lot of that crap too

753
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,360
is category based, right?

754
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,440
I mean, imagine somebody trying to hire me as a VA

755
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,320
and I got a list like women's clothes, right?

756
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,880
Or like shoes, or like, I don't know no brands,

757
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,080
I don't know no style.

758
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,840
So I think that would be so, but it's a way to be lazy.

759
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,320
That's why you brought it up, because you can just say,

760
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,960
well, I sent my photos in the Google Drive

761
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,040
across the world to some other person

762
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,880
and I can just sit back and do nothing all day.

763
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,040
There's no easy shortcuts like that.

764
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,680
And you have to accept the fact that

765
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,880
if you wanna be the person that can build the business

766
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,560
and set back out of it,

767
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,000
you're gonna have to work really, really hard for years.

768
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,320
And you sacrifice today,

769
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,400
so you have something different in the future.

770
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,520
And that's another reason why people get lazy

771
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,480
is because you sacrifice today, right?

772
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Like I worked the hardest I've ever worked in 2024,

773
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,240
but you don't have nothing to show for it, right?

774
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,800
Like we've all been there where you're starting something,

775
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,000
you're building something,

776
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,160
or you can even relate it to like debt, right?

777
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,960
When I used to be in tens of thousands of dollars in debt,

778
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,360
I'm working more than I ever have, 50 hour weeks at CVS.

779
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,400
And the bank account is not going up, Johnny,

780
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,920
because all my money is going towards the debt.

781
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,240
So you can easily just say,

782
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,600
well, listen, I just worked more than I ever have

783
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,600
my entire life, and I don't see no difference.

784
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,800
I still can't afford the Domino's Pizza.

785
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,880
So that's it, I'm just gonna give it up.

786
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,000
I'm here to tell you, it was planning, right?

787
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,960
Like years and years of doing a budget,

788
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,720
a handwritten budget, every single paycheck,

789
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,960
every single dollar had somewhere to go.

790
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,720
So me and Deb sacrificed for years, and yes, it sucked,

791
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,480
sucked a big time when we couldn't afford nothing.

792
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,720
And you're hoping your income tax return

793
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,360
got you a little bit of money so you could buy,

794
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,240
yourself a tablet, an iPad.

795
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,720
And now, nowadays, it's completely different.

796
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,240
Now I'm just like, okay, the bank account goes up,

797
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,240
we can start planning for the future,

798
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,360
but it's so easy to flip that switch off.

799
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Hell, I'm talking years of doing this.

800
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,760
People can't stay with something for three months.

801
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,320
So it's so much easier to just be like,

802
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,680
all right, I'm done, this sucks.

803
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,200
It's just easier for me to just go be the rat in the wheel

804
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,320
and continuously just be lazy

805
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,280
because all I do is work my job, and when I'm off my job,

806
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,600
I don't wanna do anything else.

807
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,440
Well, I'm here to tell you,

808
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,280
if you wanna get ahead in this game,

809
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,240
it's still possible to get ahead.

810
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,640
There's just gonna be a lot of hard work

811
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,400
and a lot of tactical and thoughtful approach to everything.

812
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,160
The inventory you're buying, how you're listing,

813
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,920
how many listings, how long are you taking the pack?

814
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,400
What are you spending on advertising?

815
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,600
As resellers, we don't even really like,

816
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,120
well, we got promoted listings on eBay,

817
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,280
but Amazon, we don't really pay to promote your brand

818
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,080
versus Deb, she's got her own brand, her own website.

819
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,480
You're paying hundreds, thousands of dollars

820
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720
every single year in advertising,

821
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,520
and we just, I don't know, man, it irritates me

822
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,040
because I've sacrificed and there were plenty of times

823
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560
I wanted to be lazy, and I thought to myself,

824
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,760
well, what is life gonna look like

825
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,120
if I just suck it up and deal with it?

826
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,360
And not only me sacrificing, the person you're with

827
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,560
or the people you're around or you're used to being around,

828
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,160
they're gonna have to make a sacrifice too.

829
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,920
If it's just Johnny, but Johnny goes and hangs out

830
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,560
with his friends every single night to play poker

831
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,640
or Dungeons and Dragons, I don't know,

832
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,680
are you a poker or Dungeons and Dragons guy?

833
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,520
Both.

834
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Both, okay, fair enough.

835
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,120
He plays both, it depends on the day of the week.

836
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,040
And he's like, hey, I'm trying to build,

837
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,600
I'm working on building this business

838
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,640
and I wanna kinda get some money in my bank account,

839
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,800
start planning for retirement, maybe buy a house,

840
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,120
buy a car, whatever that may be.

841
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,360
I'm not gonna be around every single night anymore.

842
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,080
And that's a sacrifice.

843
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,000
And that's another reason why people get lazy

844
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,120
is because you have to sacrifice some things.

845
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,880
And it sucks, dude, I'll admit it.

846
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,360
We've all been there and it's easy to just say,

847
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,120
ah, I'm good, I'd rather just sit around

848
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,120
and play poker tonight instead of listing 50 items on eBay.

849
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,360
Exactly, and for anybody who has a warehouse

850
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,280
and there's a few of us out there,

851
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,840
I hope that are listening, you're stuck in the cave, right?

852
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,640
That's what the warehouse is, it's a giant cave.

853
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,480
And anybody who's worked in a warehouse

854
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,520
for a lengthy part of time, we all know this.

855
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,000
We want out of the cave, but we stay here

856
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,120
to do the hard work to get out of the cave

857
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,840
and do whatever we want later.

858
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,720
It is a self-sacrifice.

859
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,720
And to Mike's point about paying off the debt,

860
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:13,800
that is a flight or fight scenario,

861
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,800
but nobody tells you the fight's gonna last

862
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,320
a little while, same with the warehouse workers.

863
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,440
Staying in the cave for years, it sucks, it blows,

864
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,560
but it's a necessary thing to be done

865
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,760
to get what we want later.

866
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,280
I think, actually, I shouldn't even say this,

867
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,200
but I don't care.

868
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,880
We're slowly becoming one of the most controversial

869
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,320
podcasts ever.

870
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,400
I think people are too soft nowadays.

871
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,840
They don't got the worth all to see something through

872
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,760
and actually commit to a process for longer than a week

873
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,720
or longer than a month, longer than six months.

874
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:54,360
Nothing good comes easy, and I know that's like a cheesy,

875
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,640
oh man, everybody's, nothing good comes easy.

876
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,880
That's like, you know, but that's the reality of it.

877
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,520
You gotta be willing to get down there,

878
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,680
bust your butt when you don't wanna bust your butt.

879
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,560
That's gonna make the difference between you

880
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,440
and the next person is you actually doing it,

881
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,800
because the topic of laziness,

882
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,520
if there's a hundred of us that are standing here today,

883
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,600
it's 20 degrees outside, we all gotta go thrifting,

884
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,160
but the turkey just came out the oven

885
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,080
and it's nice and warm inside, and my favorite show,

886
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,080
my football game's about to come on, my team.

887
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,240
It's how many out of the hundred people

888
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:30,120
are just staying at home?

889
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,720
It's probably 95 plus, right?

890
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:35,560
But those five people that decide, okay, you know what?

891
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,440
I can just check the score when I'm out and about

892
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,080
and I have a second and I can eat when I get back,

893
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,600
or maybe I can take a turkey sandwich with me.

894
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,040
Those people are the ones that win.

895
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,400
You just gave me an epiphany moment.

896
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,040
I asked a question a while back,

897
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,160
I don't know if it was here or some other group,

898
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,520
like why does the book selling demographics

899
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,560
seem to be an older crowd?

900
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,040
And you just answered it for me.

901
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,080
It's work ethic.

902
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,560
I don't see the younger guys,

903
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,400
like you and I are considered young guys in this game,

904
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,360
we really are, even though I think of myself as old,

905
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,560
and then I'll see somebody much younger than me,

906
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,760
those people are even rare, the guys in their 20s,

907
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,800
their younger 20s.

908
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,600
It's because where's the work ethic gone?

909
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,440
I mean, you just said it a minute ago,

910
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,200
it's like, we're just so lazy.

911
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,560
Like when I was growing up, my old man would throw me a rake,

912
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,160
he's like, I want these two acres raked up

913
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,680
before sundown or no dinner for you.

914
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,880
That's a consequence, I gotta get it done.

915
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,560
Or you gotta go do the hard, grindy job.

916
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,160
Like you worked at CVS, I worked at a marketing thing,

917
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,240
we both grind of different types,

918
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,840
but we grinded it out because it needed to be done.

919
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,640
Nowadays, you know what?

920
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,040
I don't like my Starbucks job,

921
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,720
I'm gonna work at Uber Eats next week,

922
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:53,480
I'm gonna go do whatever other job,

923
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,360
and they don't stick with it, they don't grind it out.

924
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,800
And I'm not saying do stupid jobs

925
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,400
for doing stupid jobs sake,

926
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,720
I'm saying doing what's necessary.

927
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:05,040
Where has the doing what's necessary mentality gone?

928
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,680
It probably went to that same meeting

929
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,320
where they decided not to Google shit anymore.

930
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,400
I'm just saying.

931
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,120
It's funny, me and Deb talk about this all the time,

932
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,120
people are like, they're not working

933
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,120
no matter what their job is or what business they have.

934
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,360
And they have an opportunity to go work,

935
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,640
but it's not the amount of money that they wanna make.

936
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,840
And the immediate thought that comes into my mind is,

937
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,920
well, isn't some money better than no money?

938
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,560
But in today's world, that is not the case, right?

939
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,760
It's just, well, I'd rather just do nothing

940
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,800
instead of going to make less money than I think I'm worth.

941
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,960
Well, at the end of the day,

942
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,080
some money is better than no money.

943
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,360
But we can't accept that fact.

944
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,920
We always gotta have the perfect situation

945
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,200
for me to jump into and actually buckle down

946
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,120
and give something.

947
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,680
Like everything has to go perfect for me to stay motivated.

948
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,120
And I'm here to tell you, in reselling,

949
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,880
everything is gonna go the opposite way of perfect,

950
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440
and it's gonna be trials and tribulations

951
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,520
of you trying to figure it out and weasel your way through

952
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,480
to get the business profitable, refine your processes,

953
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,440
and turn it into something that you actually can live on.

954
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,960
Right, and there's that,

955
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,480
and then having the foresight of what you're living on today

956
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,280
is not gonna cut it in the following years.

957
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,120
You need more,

958
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,960
and you have to constantly grow in your business.

959
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,880
And that does require foresight.

960
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,560
That does require the planning.

961
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,000
And it requires the investment of both time

962
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,320
and your money that you're getting.

963
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Like I'm making money.

964
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,240
I should go spend some of it now.

965
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,640
All the core business needs are met.

966
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,840
All my personal bills are met.

967
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,880
Here's this pile of money left over.

968
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,800
You know what?

969
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,280
I haven't upgraded the car in four years.

970
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,080
It's time for a new one when that car is perfectly fine.

971
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,320
I go out and buy it.

972
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,480
And then they just do little upgrades like that.

973
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,400
I'm not saying don't improve your quality of life.

974
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,760
That's not what I'm saying.

975
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,440
But make the necessary sacrifices,

976
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,800
maybe hold off on the new car and see it needed.

977
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Hold off on, well, I'm gonna upgrade from the two-bedroom

978
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,840
to the three-bedroom apartment just because I can.

979
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,840
Some of those things need to wait

980
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480
because you gotta take care of your future self.

981
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,320
You've already taken care of your today self,

982
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,520
but your future self needs its attention here today as well.

983
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,400
So invest in yourself for the future.

984
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,120
All right, we're gonna wrap this episode up here.

985
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,880
Being lazy, you can spin it into kind of like

986
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,560
my type of business where laziness in quotation marks

987
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,000
because you just get your time back,

988
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,840
but other people will think of you as lazy

989
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,880
because you're not reselling 80 hours a week.

990
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,680
You're no real reseller, Mike.

991
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,760
Well, you know what?

992
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,360
Hey, let's check the bank accounts.

993
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,840
Let's see whose bank account's going up.

994
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,080
Just because somebody's working more

995
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,320
doesn't mean they're making more money.

996
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,240
And a lot of times in a reselling, believe it or not,

997
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:54,960
it is the complete opposite.

998
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,160
A lot of people reselling love to waste all of their time

999
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,760
and make little to no money.

1000
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,480
Meanwhile, little Mike sits over here

1001
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,360
and works as little as he can.

1002
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,200
It makes a lot more money than the people working all the time

1003
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,560
and it's different for everybody.

1004
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,320
But don't let the lazy bug kind of drag you down.

1005
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,440
There is a way you're just gonna have to get through

1006
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,880
the crappy days and there's gonna be a lot of good days,

1007
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,080
but just focus on today and getting through today

1008
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,720
and putting in the work you're supposed to do today.

1009
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:22,800
Rinse and repeat, give it some time,

1010
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,640
then you'll get results.

1011
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,040
That's gonna do it for this week's episode.

1012
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,520
We will talk to you all next week.

1013
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,120
Thanks for listening to another episode

1014
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,120
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1015
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,480
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1016
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,600
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1017
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1018
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