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Welcome back to another episode of the Resellers Mindset Podcast.

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My name is Mike, also known as the used book guy on YouTube,

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along with my friend and fellow full-time reseller, Johnny B.

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We help people start and grow their reselling businesses from the ground up.

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We also have a weekly zoom call and private discord for all YouTube members.

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Head on over to youtube.com backslash use book guy to join the channel and gain

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access to the full length podcast zoom call and private discord today.

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Let's get into this week's episode.

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What is up everybody?

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Welcome into another episode resellers mindset podcast.

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Like next to Johnny today, Johnny does not know the topic and.

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I did a warning here.

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I already have them all riled up before the call here.

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I had a cold in my laughter saying the intro today and Johnny today's topic.

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I'm going to go first because you don't even know the topic.

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You can't even go first.

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I don't even know.

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This is the end of reselling and I'm saying this in a direct, serious type

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manner when I think about it overall, reselling is not what it used to be.

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It's not even close to what it used to be.

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Uh, I started before the world went crazy.

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So I, I guess I kind of a little bit of a realistic look at reselling

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and then the world went crazy and reselling went to the moon, right?

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Like everybody was doing it.

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Everybody was making money.

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And I think it has changed so much in the past four years that the argument

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that the end of reselling is here.

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I think it's, it's more accurate than it's not.

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If you just look at the average person that comes in and wants to start reselling,

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because we've got two major platforms, Amazon, eBay, Amazon.

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It's a race to the bottom.

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They don't care about the little guy at all, right?

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You just, you just somebody that makes Amazon fee money.

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Amazon likes the lowest price for the customer.

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So any auto mute buys usually going to go down that price before it sells.

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eBay.

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I think eBay has got a whole different set of problems with anybody

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can resell on the platform.

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There's no standards.

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Um, and I even have a story that I can relate to that.

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I bought something off eBay recently and it sat there for three weeks and I have

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to message a seller and I get told, oh, it's, it fell underneath my car seat in the car.

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I think that is a huge problem that reselling has as well.

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So I think it's not, you know, it is, it does fall on the sellers, but I do

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think the overall business model from the platforms to the sellers, to the

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standards, to the requirements, to the headaches.

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I do think it kind of has us in a direction where reselling is all

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but on its way out the door.

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What's your, what's your opinion here?

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I think it is harder than it's ever been to jump into either platform or both

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platforms, the, the fees are higher than they ever been, even the stamps

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higher than it's ever been.

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Um, cause it used to be on eBay and yeah, even, uh, Amazon, you can make

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money off the stamp, but at least you get, get your cost of goods back,

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maybe, which is cool.

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Uh, you still get a little bit on eBay, started taking a little cut in that.

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You still get a little bit on eBay.

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And I think you get the full cut still on Amazon, if you're a merchant person,

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but the sell through a merchants way lower than FBA.

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So do I think it's dying and, or on the way to being dead?

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I think no, but I think you need to be settled with, you're going to get

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slimmer and slimmer and slimmer margins in order to compensate that year over

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year, you're going to have to do more year over year, meaning you, you source

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more, you send in more items or you send in less items just with the higher ASP.

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But that in turn, your time spent sourcing instead of processing.

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I love the process.

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I hate to source.

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So the thought of me having to source all day discussed me, um, online arbitrage.

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That's even slimmer margins.

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Right.

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So how often are you, are you doing that?

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I mean, even if you're VAing it, even if you're prep centering it, you still have

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to do it, those people in those automations have to work even harder to produce the

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same amount of results, but we don't, we can't sell for the same amount of

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results year over year because cost of living outside of the market is

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going to be higher than the cost of living outside of our business goes up.

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So we have to do more even in those spectrums.

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So I think at some point, 10% or 5% margin, if you were doing used goods is

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going to be the norm and either you're good with that or you're not good with that.

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And it gets me to the point of at what point is it just not even feasible for

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somebody for this to be on the radar.

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I'm going to start a hot dog stand, but like that's not feasible.

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So like at what point does reselling hit that same plateau where yes, reselling

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is a thing, but nobody in their right mind would ever try it because what you

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just said is basically a little person kind of gets squeezed out of this because

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you have to put more time in, you have to treat it more like a professionally run

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business.

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We talk about that all the time, treating it like an actual business.

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So the hobbyist, the part timers, and I do think, you know, the part timers

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already get shafted.

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If you look at the eBay algorithm and they want you to be active on their site,

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listing items and Amazon has the buy box and you have to send items consistently

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to remain by box eligible.

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I think we're already working and I don't blame the platforms for doing this.

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I listen, I know a lot of part-timers listen to this podcast, but think about

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it in the aspect of you are the CEO of eBay or Amazon, how many headaches come

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from the little person that does $10,000 a year versus the person that's doing

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$10 million a year?

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It's astronomically different.

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So this idea that they want to squeeze out the little guy, I think it's justified.

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I really do.

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And as much as it hates me to say it, I think that's where the reselling is going

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to die.

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It's with the part-timers hobbyists that are trying to make the extra thousand

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to $5,000 a month and aren't super consistent with the business.

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I think those people are going to be the ones that wind up kind of falling off

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the, falling off the, you know, the ledge first.

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Absolutely.

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Unless the only way it works for those people is you, if you have a skew or an

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item that you make, or you're, you're the only seller of is the only way it's

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going to work for hobbyist and part-timers, in my opinion, down the road.

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So either you're like an Etsy type person making your own thing cool, or you find

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something that nobody's aware of that you have access to, and you're the only

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distributor of it for the short run.

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Cause once people start buying it, then they could resell it.

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And we're fixing to see a big battle royale, even in Amazon, because they're

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they're merging the renewed program and the use sellers into one listing.

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And what's unknown right now, are there going to be three buy boxes or they're

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going to be one, one that's scary business for those renewed and used

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sellers, because that's a, what was low competition for the renewed guys is now

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a saturated competition and, and same coming in if you're just the use seller.

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It's like, man, I don't want more people on the listing.

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It's hard to it's cutthroat as it is.

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So if it is three by, by boxes, let's just confuse the customer even more.

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I don't know what's going to happen there on the buying end, as far as a customer

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goes, like, what are they going to be looking at?

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I don't know what Amazon will do.

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They'll just keep the renewed and do away with everybody else rightfully.

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So, because it's literally what we just said, there's way less people in that

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program and those people are big players in the game.

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They're not just me or you go into a pawn shop, buying video games and sending them

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in, I guarantee you if Amazon has to make a choice, that's exactly how it's going

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to play out.

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And I think the problem with eBay is, is the content out there, what you said, like

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doing something nobody else is doing.

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There's so much content out there.

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All basically 99% of the Bolo brands are out there, right?

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There's huge channels that just literally have Bolo videos of hundreds and hundreds

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of items and the market becomes saturated and things happen and there's people are

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listening more of it.

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And with eBay, I think the big problem with eBay is there's no structure to the

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listing process or the customer service process.

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You kind of can just do what you want.

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And it's great for people that do it right.

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But the percentage of people that do things and operate an eBay business seriously,

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like a professional business versus those that don't, the big time players suffer

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from this because it only takes a few bad interactions like I had with the person

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that lost it under their seat for three weeks and I got to message them.

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Your typical buyer ain't going to play these types of games.

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Me as an eBay reseller for years, I understand things happen, right?

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But some lady that just goes through Google, winds up on eBay, buys it and never

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shows up for two or three weeks.

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That's the problem with that platform.

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And it's to blame eBay because there is no standards and it's blame the sellers

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because they don't have those standards for themselves or their business.

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And with Amazon, the pricing, man, I just, I don't, I agree with you.

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It's not going to get easier.

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And I do think that the serious big time players are going to survive this, which

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is a small percentage of resellers.

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If we think about it.

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And I think all the little, all the little guys and gals out there who just want to

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make a few extra bucks, it's going to get as hard as it's ever been.

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People think it's bad.

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Now, the platform just, they don't have the capabilities to handle the mass

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majority of little sellers that have little problems, little questions that we

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can't take the time to investigate ourselves.

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So you can't blame eBay for not having a 24 seven call line that you can just

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call and you get somebody and everybody complains, Oh, I never get to speak to

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an American.

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Well, guess what?

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How many of you people are calling because somebody left you a neutral

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feedback and said, do you look like Shrek?

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Well, you know what?

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They don't have time to deal with this shit.

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They have businesses to run and you got to start getting to know them.

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You got to start getting serious about it.

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I don't know, man.

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It's tough for me because I get the results I get.

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And I see, but I also treat it differently than a lot of other people.

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I don't spend a lot of time in my business, but the time I do every move is

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calculated, right?

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Every, every damn thing me and you do, it's calculated on the back end time,

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money, what, how much time are we spending?

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How much money we getting out of it?

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Can we do this again?

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Is it repeatable?

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Is it going to grow our business?

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But that's not the case.

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I will give the positive out of all of this.

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I think online reselling is going to knock out the little guy, the part

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timer, the hobbyist people.

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However, I think those people are going to still sell, just not online.

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We're going to see a big jump in antique booth malls.

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We're going to see a big bump in flea markets where they're selling their

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goods to people like us that if we're starting to figure out how to maintain

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the game, stay in the game, essentially.

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So our sourcing things we don't do anymore because we consider bottom rung.

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I think there's going to be a premium opportunity there once we reach that

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critical mass point, because they're still going to, okay, I have my stuff.

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I'm no longer going to do Amazon, eBay.

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I'm going to take it to my flea market.

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I'm going to take it to my showcase at my antique mall.

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And that stuff's going to be gold for people like us, because even the

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thrift stores, they've changed the goodwill, they're raising their prices.

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So people are going to source higher, I think, at these currently mid tier

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to low tier sourcing places more, because the quality is going to go up in those areas.

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This is speculation in my opinion, but I could see it going that way,

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at least for a short minute.

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I agree because I don't want to get into the whole idea of eBay is eBay.

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I don't list often.

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Maybe once a week for the past month, but every single item I listed once a week,

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they all have sold.

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So if I tell you, I just list one item a week and every single one of those items

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sells every single week within the week, it kind of debunks everything we're saying.

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But that comes with quality, not quantity.

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And I think a lot of people get caught up with this idea of you can just go

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buy anything and sell it on eBay.

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I mean, you talk about it all the time.

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Them keys are long gone.

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And for some reason, we hang on to this idea of eBay just being that.

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And it's not that.

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And we can't get past the initial.

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And I do think another reason, you know, the social media YouTube community,

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I mean, we have to take some blame in this because a lot of us started our channels,

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you know, well over four years ago before the world went crazy.

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And like we've all come a long way and we all grown our businesses to where we are.

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Businesses to a point where it does appeal to somebody that's brand new to it.

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And you're like, wow, look what look what this person's doing or look, look at this.

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How much money this person's making.

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And you don't realize that it's years and years of processes and refining things

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and relationships to get to that point.

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So I do think we are to blame as well in a way, shape and form, because a lot of the big

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YouTubers out there have been doing this for a long time.

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And compared to where they were now, they're in a much better place financially, mentally.

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They have the bells and whistles.

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They had the real estate property.

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They have the huge warehouses.

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And the idea that you can start reselling today and be the warehouse person in three months.

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This is completely unrealistic.

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Absolutely.

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And a third avenue, I think we're going to see pop up when it reaches that critical mass point.

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And I forgot about it.

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So I can't really say they're going to go strictly offline.

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I think a lot of them will also try to have their own website.

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That is the biggest mistake.

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That's going to be a mistake.

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That is.

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But I'm going to see it happen.

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We all are going to see that happen.

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They're going to do the website.

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They're going to do the farmer's market, the antique and flea market thing.

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We're going to see a boom in those three places.

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I'm predicting.

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I'm going to give you a real life equivalent of having a website that these people would do.

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You opening a website today, johnnyb'sgoods.com,

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whatever it is.

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That is the equivalent to you just having, you're not even having your door open,

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just having a little business card size sign on your door that says, I sell things inside.

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And people down the road are driving 60 miles an hour and will never see it.

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There you go.

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He finished the analogy.

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People think I'll just get my own website that these are, but next to nothing,

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there is so much marketing ad spend that has to go in for you to even get it seen a click,

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not even guaranteed someone's going to buy something.

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But I do agree because I have seen that popping up more and more like

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just do your own website or, you know,

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There's less fees.

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Yeah.

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But when nobody's buying the fees don't matter.

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Well, we'll start our own reselling website.

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That's the thing I've been seeing too.

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Like it's not that simple.

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It sounds glorious.

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Me and johnny can sit here and go on and on about the reselling

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marketplace we're going to create,

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but it means absolutely nothing on the back.

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It takes hundreds of thousands of dollars to do something like that.

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So it's don't ever just go to your flea market.

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You're way better.

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I'd be better off and you'll spend less money.

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Yeah.

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Just do a yard sale and put it on.

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Oh, yard sale.

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Yeah.

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There you go.

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Like your weekly yard sale.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Something like that.

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I mean, it's brutal out there right now.

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A lot of small people are hurting sales are down.

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They're not getting the sales they used to.

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But with anything, you got to understand the market we're in.

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All right.

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There's always outside factors.

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That's why everybody thought reselling was great.

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2020 through 2022 because everybody had the free money.

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Everybody was getting the checks from the government,

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the unemployment because they couldn't go to work.

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Of course, things are going to be great, dude.

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Now like time, this is it.

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This is really reselling right now.

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Like this is real time reselling.

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This is what reselling really is before the anomaly that we went through.

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That wasn't reselling.

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That was just you go outside and you just go in your yard and pay for gold

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and you're going to pull gold every single time.

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That was the furthest thing from the reality.

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But that's when reselling took off.

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So the majority of people that started then think that, well,

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if we're not doing what it was back then, then hey, what's going on here?

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Like this is the end of times.

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It is the end of times for you, not for me.

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Right.

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Like call the ambulance for you, not for me.

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So we've given all the red flags and flashing lights we know how to give.

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So I'm going to try to shift the conversation, if Mike allows me to.

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How do you stay in the game?

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What would enable you to not go sell at the flea market or go work at Uber for your spare cash?

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And especially if you're a part-timer person,

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like what do you need to do today to prepare for tomorrow kind of deal?

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And I hope Mike finally gets my Ant and Grass grasshopper analogy

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that I said many moons ago, but I think he does now.

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So Mike, what would you do if you were a part-timer?

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You do put in part-time hours.

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I'm part-time, dude.

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How are you going to stay in the game?

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How are you going to stay in the game, Mike?

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You have to be smarter every single aspect of your business.

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Sourcing, listing, pricing, maintaining that inventory that isn't selling,

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basically keeping up with it.

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You do a much better job than me at going in and manually repricing.

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And I have realized over the past two months that

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manual repricing on Amazon is like, it's worth its weight in gold.

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Like you spend one day a week and go in and manually reprice it.

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I think, you know, we have our mastermind call once a month.

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And, you know, for me doing the numbers I do, I'm like, we had Rob.

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He's like, yeah, I did $20,000.

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I work a full-time job.

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And the big change he did was he upgraded his quality of goods

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and the quantity he was getting.

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So we talked about reaching out to, you know, companies directly.

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And that's what he did.

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And he went from being thrift store guy to the state sale guy.

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And his quality of goods went up and boom, he shot through the roof.

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Like, yeah, he was doing good numbers before, but I mean, anybody

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out there that's listening to this, you tell them you do $20,000 in sales

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part-time in addition to a full-time job, it sounds so scammy, but like that.

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He's the person that's going to survive.

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Like if there's a definition of a part-timer, like that's it.

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And that's how I have to be.

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That's how you have to be even as a full-timer.

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You don't get complacent, right?

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You don't just sit there and you don't just do the same things, the same things.

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You always have to be bettering yourself.

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And with that is your business because this is the money me and Johnny live off of.

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So bettering ourselves, our businesses included, and me and Johnny talk all the

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damn time about different things we're trying, what's working, what's not working.

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You have to be in that mindset and get around people.

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Even if it's one other person that's in the same line of business of you

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that maybe is getting better results or is working a little bit harder than you.

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To kind of see, all right, well, what makes sense?

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What is this person doing that I'm not doing?

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I think those people, you can't just be this person that's like, well, I did it

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this way and I'm never going to change how I do things.

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You have to adapt today more than ever.

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I don't think your business should look the same season to season.

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You should always be doing something different.

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So I'm going to mention this as well because some of our listeners are very,

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well, they're just that.

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They just listen.

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They don't contribute.

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Here's the issue with that.

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And I'll address the not contributing.

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There is a legitimate reason not to contribute.

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So if you give everything secret sauce at all, it's no longer secret sauce, right?

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It's public information.

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And I get why you need to protect some of that, but does it mean you shouldn't say anything at all?

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There's some stuff, the secret sauce stuff.

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Yeah, keep to yourself.

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I don't reveal all ever.

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There are some things I will never talk about because that I need in my business not to happen.

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But everything else I'm pretty open about, even my repricing strategy,

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that can always be tweaked or adjusted or if I sit down for a couple hours,

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I can build a better mousetrap.

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That I don't mind sharing how I'm sourcing to an extent.

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I will talk about that.

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If you are just closed off, you will never grow.

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You can only do so much.

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Other people around you help you look at things in different perspective.

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A lot of it you will just ignore, but those few things you don't ignore

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will drastically increase your business, revenue, profits, and the way you conduct business in general.

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So we all need to share information.

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And yeah, some things you're not going to share, I get that.

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But for those that just listen and aren't around like-minded people,

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you're going to grow slower than you want to and you're going to get frustrated.

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So you need to come out into the light, contribute a little bit here and there,

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not everything, just a little bit, baby steps.

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We'll do it in baby steps.

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But I think that'll make you and everybody else around you better.

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And that's a happy place to be.

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I put it all out there just so Johnny can debunk everybody else.

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Johnny's the drill sergeant of the group.

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He's much more tougher.

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I don't even think that's proper English, but whatever.

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He's much more tougher than I am with people.

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So when I put stuff out there, I just think to myself, well, this is another bullet in

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Johnny's little gunslinger, Texas holsters he has, because anytime somebody comes to

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him with a reason why they're not getting results, he can be like, well, it's out there.

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I tell you exactly how I reprice.

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Mike tells you exactly how to list the stuff, how to source the stuff, how to contact the

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companies, how to...

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It's an endless supply out there.

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So when somebody comes along and they just ask this asinine question or have this stupid

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excuse, Johnny just, he ain't got time for it because he knows every single answer is

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out there.

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And I do think when not putting the secret sauce out there, I can put it all out there.

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And I know 95% of people, probably higher than that, ain't never going to do it.

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I talk about it all the time.

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The amount of money I made on doing certain little things different than anybody else,

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the only people that do it are people that I guess never comment on the YouTube channel

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and should be thanking me for all the money I made them, or people over in the group because

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we get crazy results from people doing this part time just by doing things differently.

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And those things I talk about openly to do differently, anybody can do it, but nobody

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does it.

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All right.

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I'll give an example of this.

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And Mike, this isn't to hurt your feelings, make you feel bad.

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But I had told Mike some things that he's then made public information.

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And I was like, oh, no, end of the world.

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It's not the end of the world.

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It is not.

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And I used to think like that and keep a lot of things more protected than I do.

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But over the years, it doesn't matter.

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Because again, I can build a better mousetrap if I put in the effort.

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It doesn't matter, guys.

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And I don't think anything I put out there or Mike's put out there dams either one of

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us.

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It doesn't put us out of business.

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We could tell every little thing about our business today, exactly how to get to where

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we got.

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And the majority of people won't even listen after step two.

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It's just the reality of it.

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I mean, think about it this way, Johnny, look where you're sitting today.

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You are sitting in your warehouse where you sit every damn week.

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We have this call, we get off this call, you hop on the next weekly call we have, and then

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you work, right?

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Like I'll be the first person to tell you like Sundays usually are my days off.

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So they're not really days off because we record this, we got our weekly call, I got

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one on ones, things like that.

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But usually in the afternoon, I'm like, all right, I'm just kick back and relax today.

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Well, if I want to make a little bit more money, Johnny, then I got to both pick up

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today.

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And I'm not even lying about this.

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Like I first both pick up on a Sunday in probably three years.

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You got to want it at the end of the day.

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And we talked about it, having a why in your reselling business.

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And it doesn't have to be like, you know, you're going to have to have a reason to do

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that.

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You know, it doesn't always have to be some crazy story, emotional story.

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I just want to make a little bit more money so I can just buy a bigger house or just buy

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a house in cash.

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That's all it comes down to.

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I just think the little the little people have to get on board.

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And you know, hustle and grow made a video a while back.

472
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:49,880
And he said, like, you part timers and was like, you part timers are just in the way.

473
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,720
I think he hit it on the head.

474
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,600
Like, it's tough to come out and say that, especially on YouTube, like, because my audience

475
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,240
is a lot of part timers, right.

476
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,120
But is it true?

477
00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:00,120
Probably.

478
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:01,120
Right.

479
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,600
Like a lot of people don't know that they go buy the Beanie Baby.

480
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,000
And this Beanie Baby is actually worth $300.

481
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,720
And you you go and list it for like 50 bucks.

482
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,960
And like, you got a thousand of these things like you just destroy the market for that.

483
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:19,320
A lot of it is just, I guess, ignorance of knowledge.

484
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,560
So here's the thing.

485
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,320
I say this a lot, but I don't think people know what I mean.

486
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,120
And I put it in the simplest forms as I can.

487
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:28,520
Maybe you can do a better spin on this, Mike.

488
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,600
Work harder.

489
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,280
Did I say work longer?

490
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,120
No, I said work harder.

491
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:38,040
Same amount of hours, but work harder in those hours smartly.

492
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:44,400
So work smarter and harder in the same time frame.

493
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,120
This is work.

494
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:52,720
I don't care if you do one hour a week or you do 120 hours a week, those hours are work.

495
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,880
So work harder.

496
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,040
And again, emphasis, I didn't say work longer.

497
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,040
I got a hot take and a lot of people might not like it, but I think it does translate

498
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,520
to your your life.

499
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:14,360
And I think a lot of people try a lot of different businesses and none of them ever take off,

500
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:15,360
right.

501
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,920
Every month is a different business idea.

502
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,880
Every month is one month is a hot dog stand.

503
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,520
Next month it's reselling.

504
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,140
Next month it's live selling.

505
00:26:24,140 --> 00:26:25,140
Next month it's this.

506
00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:26,140
It's that.

507
00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:30,640
Unfortunately, those people that can't, you know, it's just not going to magically happen

508
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,640
because you change this business you have, right.

509
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,480
It's going to take you actually taking the business seriously for anything to change.

510
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,920
You can jump to whatever you want every single week.

511
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,760
None of it's ever going to work out for it.

512
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,740
That's just the reality of it.

513
00:26:45,740 --> 00:26:51,040
If you suck at being an entrepreneur, like then you suck at it.

514
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,040
And can you change?

515
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,440
You don't always have to suck, right.

516
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,800
Like you can, you know, understand P&Ls, take a profit and loss.

517
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,200
I mean, it's all out there for free.

518
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Like you can become a better business person so fast nowadays.

519
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,840
You don't got to go to school anymore.

520
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,720
You only need an MBA in business.

521
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,680
You just got to find a few people that, you know, can talk common sense.

522
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,160
And it's the same thing with taxes.

523
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,120
Like people get bent out bent out of shape.

524
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,440
Well, I got to pay taxes and how much money are you really making?

525
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,240
Well, if you understood the tax code or hey, maybe if you don't want to understand the

526
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,160
tax code, you find a really good tax person that loves the tax code and you pay them money

527
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,720
and you save a bunch of money on taxes and that big scary dude, it drives me nuts.

528
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,560
I still hear from time to time people don't want to resell because well, don't you got

529
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,720
to pay taxes on that?

530
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,040
What a limiting belief in life.

531
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,640
Like holy smokes.

532
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,480
So what if you make more money, Uncle Sam takes his little cut, but at the end of the

533
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,960
day, you're still left with more money than you had by not?

534
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,520
Where's the fucking logic?

535
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,120
I think the struggle we have, Johnny, is we're at where we're at, right?

536
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:56,960
Like we started from nothing.

537
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,440
We built it to where it is today.

538
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,080
We're going to continue to grow these businesses that we have.

539
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:08,700
And the revolving door of re-selling, it's like, you know, like huge doors and like New

540
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:11,920
York City hotels and they just keep spinning and you got to walk through.

541
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,440
Like that is what reselling has become because the fad of reselling took off.

542
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,520
And now I think a lot of people, they get in the door and they don't even get out the

543
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,520
other side.

544
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,040
They just walk completely around and then leave right away because I think that is what

545
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,480
we're headed towards.

546
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080
And I do think, you know, there are benefits to it.

547
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,160
The person that does want to take this seriously and treat it like a business, even part time,

548
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,120
I do think it is beneficial.

549
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:40,980
We talk about it, you know, we used to say, well, do we ever get to a point where there's

550
00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:42,920
less bozos selling on Amazon?

551
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,920
Right?

552
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,080
Like, and we've come to the conclusion that every time one leaves, there's another one

553
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,080
showing up.

554
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,200
So it's like, we'll never get to that point.

555
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,760
Hopefully one day we won't have to deal with the people selling their stuff for a loss that

556
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,920
we have to compete with.

557
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,520
But honestly, that day may never come.

558
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,240
And if it does, it benefits people like me, you and whoever's listening to this.

559
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,800
It's like, hey, I really want this business to be something.

560
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,720
I really want this to be an extra thousand dollars a month into my bank account, my retirement,

561
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,240
my cruise fund, whatever it may be.

562
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,800
Those people survive.

563
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:19,820
But the whiny majority crybabies you see on YouTube and social media, and these content

564
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:24,600
creators that talk about it every single day, that the platform sucks.

565
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,520
It's easy to get around those people and we all can whine together.

566
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,960
We all can have a whine, they resell on wine crews, not the wine you drink.

567
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,520
We all can just sit there and cry about how reselling sucks.

568
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,480
It's going down, but you don't have to be aboard the cruise ship.

569
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,280
Maybe we get in the helicopter that takes off right before the cruise ship hits the

570
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,140
iceberg and everybody's got to get in the light boats.

571
00:29:46,140 --> 00:29:50,400
You got to start thinking ahead of the curve here and just be out in front of everything.

572
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,420
And no, there's still money to be made.

573
00:29:52,420 --> 00:29:57,080
But the majority of people you're going to see and hear talk about reselling, it's the

574
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,760
end of times and rightfully so.

575
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,160
If you're selling trash, you're listing trash, you don't understand your business, you've

576
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,040
got trash business sense, then unfortunately you're going to wind up in the landfill with

577
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,400
all the other resellers.

578
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,720
And I hate to say it, it benefits people like me and Johnny who treat this like an actual

579
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,960
business and understand that at the end of the day, our income is our business, which

580
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,160
is reselling.

581
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,920
So we got to take it seriously because if not, me and Johnny got to move in together

582
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,600
underneath the underpass somewhere in Texas.

583
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,920
I want buck beds if that's happening.

584
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,800
And here's another hot take for you.

585
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,600
If you like the trash or accumulate trash because you're trying to do bulk and you're

586
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:42,560
doing these buyouts, put it on marketplace and store it in your rock for attorney.

587
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,200
Don't even bother with eBay listings or your Instagram.

588
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,320
I think Instagram is the other one that has a store you could do.

589
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,680
Put it there.

590
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,120
But I think you better off just tossing it and messing with the stuff that's actually

591
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,120
worth money.

592
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,800
But if you are convinced to monetize it and you don't want to build your own website,

593
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,640
you don't want to go to the flea market, you don't want to do an antique booth, fine.

594
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,280
Do Facebook or Instagram.

595
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,580
Be done with it.

596
00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:07,400
One post, move on.

597
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,960
And when it gets to the point where your garage or whatever is full, take that shit to the

598
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,960
dump.

599
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,960
The dump.

600
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,960
Yeah, literally.

601
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,960
And then start again.

602
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,960
You've tried to monetize the trash.

603
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,960
It didn't work.

604
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Didn't sell.

605
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,380
Literally take it to the dump and be done with it or donate it, I guess, making somebody

606
00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:23,400
else's problem.

607
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,280
But again, stop messing with the junk.

608
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,880
Never had a way to monetize the junk.

609
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Sure, I'm all about that.

610
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,280
I have my own brick and mortar store that's all junk, though I just rescanned it and I

611
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,800
pull it out a lot and not junk because it came back in season or popularity, whatever.

612
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,680
I'm talking in Amazon terms.

613
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,680
You guys got to work.

614
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,400
Again, you got to work harder.

615
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:52,480
And again, I don't mean long hours, but the hard work means smarter, not doing the same

616
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,820
thing over and over again, expecting a different result because that's the definition of insanity.

617
00:31:56,820 --> 00:32:03,400
But work smarter by working harder, but do it smartly.

618
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,760
That's all this game comes down to.

619
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,680
Or else, well, get your applications ready because I hear Starbucks and Uber are about

620
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,080
to have an influx of part timers.

621
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,720
I'm going to be 100% here.

622
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:22,520
If I had to build the same business I have today on eBay versus Amazon, I don't think

623
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,400
I got it in me.

624
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:31,400
You tell me right now, Johnny, that you need to go list over 4,000 books, CDs, DVDs at

625
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:38,480
eBay prices and have an inventory system and do all the stuff eBay requires you to do as

626
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,480
a seller.

627
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,320
I straight up ain't got it in me.

628
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,800
I'd be back in the workforce or I'd figure out another side hustle because that ain't

629
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,920
the life for me.

630
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,040
And those people that enjoy that, I see it all the time.

631
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:57,200
There are some shining stars out there in the YouTube world when it comes to eBay reselling.

632
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,800
And those people survive because they enjoy it.

633
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,040
They like having all the moving parts, the inventory system.

634
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,280
They're A-okay with making a little bit of money all the time instead of trying to hang

635
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,560
on to this stuff forever and trying to get the most money out of it.

636
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,520
When you said margins are going down, I agree.

637
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,520
We talked about it yesterday.

638
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480
$5 ain't what it used to be.

639
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,640
When Amazon, okay, 10% cut year after year, cumulative, at what point can you no longer

640
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,400
sell $5 items?

641
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,560
Same with the stamp.

642
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,080
People that are offering free shipping, how long can you sell that item before your shipping

643
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,760
price is more than the actual item?

644
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,000
What happens to those items then?

645
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,120
They go in the trash cans.

646
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,360
What happens to those items?

647
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,440
And this idea that, well, I just want to, even if I sell something at a loss or like

648
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,720
it boosts my eBay store, I get a feedback, right?

649
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,720
Like I ordered, Deb was trying to complete a set of cards that she wanted and like it

650
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,000
gets delivered the same day.

651
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,320
And I got people like bugging me through eBay messages.

652
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,480
Can you leave me feedback?

653
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,480
Can you leave me feedback?

654
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360
I'm like, I bought a $1.50 card from you.

655
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Like the feedback is not going to change your life here, but this is the reality.

656
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,960
We think these things that are important, they're not.

657
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,960
I hate to break it to you.

658
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,680
The feedback on the $1.50 card ain't all of a sudden going to change your reselling business.

659
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,360
And that's my biggest gripe with eBay being a shopper.

660
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,360
The pain in the ass.

661
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,080
I hate dealing with sellers.

662
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,920
Selling is really not that bad for me because I don't sell in quantity.

663
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,240
But like if you did, you have to set out time for customer service, right?

664
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:27,240
You know this.

665
00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:31,840
When you were knee deep in eBay, you got to have literally time blocks for customer service.

666
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,320
I do think part-timers will succeed those that take it seriously.

667
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,160
I think full-timers are going to reap the benefits.

668
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:44,040
As long as, you know, prefaces, you have to be selling stuff that people want on a platform

669
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,720
where people are shopping.

670
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:47,800
They go hand in hand.

671
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:54,360
My media business is a tenth of what it is if I took everything from Amazon and put it

672
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,000
on to eBay.

673
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:03,280
Like my Amazon business would not translate to eBay in the slightest way, shape, or form.

674
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,280
So not only do you have to go to the platform that makes sense for the category you sell

675
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,680
in, you also have to find items that people want.

676
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,240
You have to sell things that somebody is going to buy.

677
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:21,120
Nobody cares about your Susan Boyle CDs, your stupid lots you waste way too much time making.

678
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,720
Oh, I'm going to just do lots for duds on eBay.

679
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:29,000
And then when it's all said and done, you spent two hours and you made $10 and you think

680
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,600
you actually made $10.

681
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Like you got to be out of your mind.

682
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,040
And these are things that I've tried.

683
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,040
We talked about it.

684
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,040
What are things that we have tried that have failed?

685
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,400
I've tried lots.

686
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,880
I've tried disc only.

687
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,080
I've tried multiple things out there.

688
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,360
That sure, maybe if I gave it more time, maybe six months, maybe a year, I could get results.

689
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,800
But in the immediate, I'm not lotting nothing up, dude.

690
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,000
I don't care if I got a hundred Agatha Christie trade paperbacks sitting behind me in one

691
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000
box.

692
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,320
I am not lining that up.

693
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,520
It is going to the dumpster before I lot it up on eBay.

694
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,960
We can't get over the idea of, well, it's just it's gone.

695
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,400
We already made our money, right?

696
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,520
Like think about this, we do a bulk buy, we scan it, we make our money on the premium

697
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,480
stuff, the cream of the crop.

698
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Why are we chasing pennies to try to wring out every little penny we can from this stuff?

699
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,000
When if I told you, if you just went and bought another lot and left the junk behind, whoa,

700
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,880
all of a sudden you got more premium stuff.

701
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Junk goes away.

702
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,920
You buy another one.

703
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,640
It's out there for everybody.

704
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,720
We sell media, the most saturated thing.

705
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:37,440
You would agree that there's an endless supply of it out there.

706
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,080
There's one thing we talk about all the time in the group is there's an endless supply

707
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,720
of everything we sell.

708
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:47,640
If you open your eyes and look past your front door, you could find media for next to nothing.

709
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:54,520
So why do we waste time listing a $5 book on eBay, a $6 book on a $10 book on eBay?

710
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,520
Why do we wait?

711
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Why do people waste time listing a $10 book on eBay, Johnny?

712
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Because okay, here's a perfect scenario.

713
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,560
I talked about it with Jack numerous times in his video games.

714
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,120
They bought a pile of books.

715
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,280
They have a book in my hand.

716
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,720
Well, I bought it, so I must sell it.

717
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,160
That's the mentality that goes into it.

718
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,440
It's like, okay, I must sell it.

719
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,740
I can't list this as a single item.

720
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:18,400
So let me try lotting it.

721
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,640
That went okay.

722
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:25,400
But if I were to not waste, well, invest time, we'll say that instead, instead of waste,

723
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,760
but I've invested time making this lot.

724
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,100
I've sold it, but where are my dollars per hour?

725
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:37,440
Does it make more sense for me to even create that lot in the first place or just go find

726
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,640
more profitable items to send in?

727
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,880
If you did not guess the latter, you're fucking wrong.

728
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:49,840
My goal is to have a podcast episode where you don't bring up dollars per hour.

729
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,320
But I do think it is valid.

730
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,040
Okay, half dollars per hour.

731
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,040
How about that?

732
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,720
Half dollars per hour.

733
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:00,620
If there's good stuff out there to be had, then why do we waste time?

734
00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:02,160
Nothing is free in this.

735
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:09,000
You go free curb alert, Johnny, my freebie alert app pops up, free box of the books on

736
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
the curb.

737
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,000
Well, it's free, Johnny.

738
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Well, did you factor in?

739
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,800
You got to go and drive there and there's gas.

740
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,160
Do you factor in?

741
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,400
You actually got to take time to list the items.

742
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Nothing is free in reselling.

743
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,040
Unless you're like, I mean, nothing's free in life, honestly.

744
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:29,920
So get this idea out of your head that everything you get, you have to sell and you got to squeeze.

745
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,120
That's the whole holdup, I think, with everybody.

746
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,320
I have it now.

747
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,520
It is mine.

748
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,760
I want to sell it for money.

749
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,760
Stop it.

750
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,080
No, leave it alone.

751
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,080
Make it go away.

752
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,320
Somehow, someway, make it go away.

753
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,840
No, I have standards.

754
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,760
Now, sure, if you're a huge operation, right, if we just translate this to like a warehouse

755
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,660
or you have multiple employees, sure, you can wring out the dollars and the quarters

756
00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:57,720
out of your stuff.

757
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:01,640
But me as one person, right, I'm not going to waste time to list an item.

758
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,080
I'm going to make $2 on Amazon, $3 on Amazon.

759
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,720
Sure, somebody else's business model out there will get excited about the $2 item.

760
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:16,280
But for me in my business, that is junk and it's getting out of here, right?

761
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,280
It's gone.

762
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,280
You just hit the nail on the head.

763
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Unless you're a huge volume seller, those $2 to $3, you can make a beautiful business

764
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:29,720
off $2 profit items if you list hundreds and thousands of them.

765
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,520
Because last I checked, two times 100,000 is $200,000.

766
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,520
Great.

767
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:41,280
But that does not really translate to the smaller time seller who has limited hours.

768
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Your hours need to be valuable.

769
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,300
See, I said it without saying it.

770
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:46,680
Your hours need to be valuable.

771
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,480
And how you assess that value usually is in the form of money.

772
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,080
See, I didn't say it.

773
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,920
I said it differently.

774
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,000
It's true, especially when there's always better stuff out there to be found.

775
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,560
It's not like these are the last, I like this bulk buy is the last bulk buy I'm ever going

776
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,800
to do today.

777
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:09,340
So why am I trying to hang on to the 2,000 CDs I'm going to get today when I know there's

778
00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:14,200
another 2,000 CDs where there's 400 quality CDs I can get out of there?

779
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,640
Get rid of the junk, turn and burn.

780
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,840
I'm going to bring it up.

781
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,720
The person that watches the YouTube video and they buy that Gaylord because they heard

782
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:29,600
they should buy that Gaylord, they process the Gaylord, they have their little small

783
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:35,040
table, small table, maybe a TV tray size table of books they can send to Amazon.

784
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:41,080
Then they have the whole rest of the Gaylord over here and they think, what do I do with

785
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,080
it?

786
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,040
And that's where they forever, well, I'm not going to say forever.

787
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:55,600
For a period of time, they try to monetize the gigantic leftover Gaylord pool.

788
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,600
They do.

789
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,600
Hey, you're right.

790
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,520
Like I can see it now.

791
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,960
You got your James Patterson pile of books, your Nora Robert pile of books, and then you

792
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,360
got some sci-fi books you're going to try a lot enough, some romance novels you're going

793
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,920
to try a lot enough.

794
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,760
When if I just told you just to wheel it out to the yard and burn it and go buy another

795
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,600
Gaylord, you'd be better off, people can't swallow that pill.

796
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,600
I get it.

797
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,400
I kind of used to be the same way, but I also used to do flea markets.

798
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:29,840
Me and Deb would drive around the rich neighborhoods, scoop up trash, trash.

799
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,840
But I did flea markets.

800
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,080
So you basically could sell anything for anything at a flea market.

801
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,200
So I would just grab the stuff that looks half decent.

802
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,580
Flea markets are still the quote unquote eBay of today.

803
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:39,580
You can sell anything there.

804
00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:40,580
It'll sell.

805
00:41:40,580 --> 00:41:41,580
It's the right price.

806
00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:42,580
It'll sell.

807
00:41:42,580 --> 00:41:46,000
It's the current eBay analog form of eBay.

808
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Yes.

809
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,360
But selling online is not like that at all anymore.

810
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:56,160
You need desirable items at desirable prices and you need to get stuff sent out quickly.

811
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,680
It's just a completely different game.

812
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,480
I do think reselling will see a...

813
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,480
All right.

814
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,040
I guess when I say reselling dying, I think the number of resellers is dying.

815
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,600
I still think the business and profitability is going to continue to rise for people that

816
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:17,640
take it seriously and continually upgrade their business sense, their business models,

817
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:18,720
how they operate.

818
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:23,440
I think the profitability will continue to increase for those that are serious about

819
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,440
reselling.

820
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,120
But I do think the overall number of resellers is going to take a huge downswing just because

821
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,880
it's easier than ever to find a reason to quit.

822
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,560
Like, how many did we just bring up?

823
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,000
My stuff's not selling.

824
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,120
The algorithm hates me.

825
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,620
I can't get the buy a box.

826
00:42:38,620 --> 00:42:42,440
It's so easy to quit today and justify it in your mind with some lame excuse.

827
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:48,920
But I do think there's tons of money to be made even though reselling's on the decline.

828
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,920
We have an interesting coach in Tech's Group.

829
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,600
He's totally different than everybody else.

830
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,280
He sells only on Facebook Marketplace and he makes over $100,000 a year doing that because

831
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,160
he did it in a very smart way.

832
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,120
He has systems in place.

833
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,280
Everything in Tech's Group, all those methodologies, instead of on eBay, he just applied them to

834
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,260
Facebook and he's making a lot of money doing that.

835
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:18,240
So those people that take away from the end is nigh off our little podcast here.

836
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:19,240
It doesn't have to be.

837
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:21,200
You figure out a way to do it smarter.

838
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,240
He does it part-time too.

839
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:28,880
But if you want to start building your flea market empire, your Facebook market empire,

840
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:36,040
your antique mall empire, no better day than today to start that, honestly.

841
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,200
I mean, we're forecasting for you.

842
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,840
That's the whole point of us here because we see the trend of fees going up, stamps

843
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,880
going up, our mailing label going up, cost of goods going up.

844
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,280
But if you're already getting super thin margins, maybe it's time for your pivot.

845
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,640
We mentioned pivoting a lot in our podcast.

846
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,640
Why wait?

847
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,640
Pivot today.

848
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,640
Start today.

849
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,640
Yeah, you're right.

850
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,160
I'm going to wrap it up here.

851
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:07,440
My last final thought is me like you out there that is the part-time reseller, we should

852
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:14,200
be much more efficient than this guy, Johnny, sitting next to us here today.

853
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,080
I have the time too.

854
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,920
I have other things going on.

855
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,000
I talked about it yesterday openly.

856
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,640
How much can I scale this to?

857
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,760
I have nothing to hide when it comes to my business.

858
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,760
Can I put in more time?

859
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,760
Sure.

860
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,760
Do I want to put more time?

861
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,400
Depending on what it is, am I going to get my bang for my buck?

862
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:38,960
First, you have to work smarter and essentially harder in a smaller timeframe than people

863
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,360
like Johnny and the huge players out there in the game.

864
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,960
There is no reason part-timers should be selling items or listing items that have crappy sell

865
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,960
through.

866
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,280
It just does not make sense.

867
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,360
Low dollar items, you are part-time.

868
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,420
Why are we wasting the little bit of time we have on these low dollar tasks, these low

869
00:44:57,420 --> 00:44:58,420
dollar items?

870
00:44:58,420 --> 00:44:59,960
I don't care if it's free.

871
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:04,000
I want to take more time back from throwing it out and going to find better items.

872
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,040
The majority of part-timers are the ones that are going to go away.

873
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,600
I am here to tell you, me as a part-timer, I don't plan on going away.

874
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,000
I am going to continue to scale my business.

875
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,720
If it means putting in more hours, so be it.

876
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:14,720
The opportunity is there.

877
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:19,880
Unfortunately, for the majority of part-timers, I think, and a lot of full-timers too that

878
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,960
are just stuck in their old ways, your days are numbered.

879
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:28,160
You are committed to a business model or a platform with a business model that goes hand

880
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:33,360
in hand, sooner or later the bubbles are going to burst on you and there is nothing, no one

881
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,720
else to blame but yourself.

882
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:40,320
You have to actually be willing to change and see what the future is and know when things

883
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,120
are going bad for others.

884
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,440
It does not mean it is bad for everybody.

885
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,360
We have endless people on here with successful eBay businesses.

886
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,600
If you went on YouTube and searched, is eBay reselling worth it?

887
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,800
90% of videos on the first page will say eBay is dying.

888
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,440
You are not going to make no money.

889
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,920
How is it that we come across all of these unicorns that magically do six figures on

890
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,680
eBay every single year?

891
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,680
That justifies me.

892
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,360
I talked about earlier how I justify Johnny by putting out secret sauce so he can blow

893
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,360
up anybody's excuse.

894
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,680
I have people on that are successful on eBay.

895
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,440
That is like me blowing up any eBay video content creator that says, hey, reselling

896
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,440
is dead on eBay.

897
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,760
I am like, no, it is not.

898
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,360
You want this person's name?

899
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,560
Go message them and tell them that.

900
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,400
You have a whole list of previous guests that are primarily eBay sellers.

901
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,040
Primarily eBay sellers crushing it.

902
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,120
This idea that eBay sucks and you cannot make money?

903
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,120
No.

904
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,120
They sell desirable items.

905
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,720
They operate their business like a real business, not just as hanky panky because reselling

906
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:44,720
is cool.

907
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:45,720
Get out of here with that nonsense.

908
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:46,720
We are going to wrap it up here.

909
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:47,720
We will talk to you all the way.

910
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:48,720
Really?

911
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,720
Bonus little segment here.

912
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:54,920
If you like what you heard here today, please like and subscribe on YouTube or whatever

913
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,520
you do on the podcast platform of your choice to make us more well known because we have

914
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,640
lots of things to say.

915
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,640
We want to tell everybody.

916
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,480
OK, now, Mike, you can do your outro.

917
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,760
I think maybe I have to start paying you to do like a podcast read or like I'll write

918
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,120
up some really cheesy ad and you can do it in like that cheesy ad voice.

919
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,840
You do got like a good ad voice, though.

920
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,880
Like I can see you doing like radio or something.

921
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,880
All right, more off the rails.

922
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,200
We'll talk to you all next week's episode.

923
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,840
Thanks for listening to another episode of the resellers mindset podcast.

924
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,280
These full episode and all previous episodes are available to all YouTube members along

925
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,000
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926
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,320
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927
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