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Welcome back to another episode of the Resellers Mindset Podcast.

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My name is Mike, also known as the used book guy on YouTube, along with my friend

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and fellow full-time reseller, Johnny B.

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We help people start and grow their reselling businesses from the ground up.

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We also have a weekly zoom call and private discord for all YouTube members.

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Head on over to youtube.com backslash use book guide to join the channel and gain

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access to the full length podcast zoom call and private discord today.

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Let's get into this week's episode.

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What is up, everybody?

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Welcome in another episode, resellers mindset podcast.

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Mike here alongside Johnny B full-time eBay over there, full-time Amazon right here.

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Today's topic is going to be a fun one.

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The future of eBay.

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Where do we think eBay is going?

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Just kind of our insights, right?

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And listen, I just said I'm a full-time Amazon seller, right?

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So I'm going to have a lot more hot takes, I think, in comparison to Johnny over here

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when it comes to the future of eBay.

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But I'll start it out here to make your life a little bit easy.

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Because usually I make you start out, but I'm going to start out here.

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Uh, eBay and the Vero's and brands not allowing you to sell items.

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If you're an Amazon seller, you are well aware of everything being basically

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behind a gate, they call it.

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You have to buy 10 things from a supplier, submitted invoice to get ungated.

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If you want to sell Disney, if you want to sell Lego, I think eBay is moving

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in that direction slowly, but surely.

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And I think a lot of its sellers are not happy with that.

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Um, give me your take on that.

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I agree.

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Um, I think eBay is a much harder game than it was even three years ago.

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Um, you used to be able to sling anything on eBay.

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That's not so much the case these days.

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I mean, you still can, you have the capability of listing anything you want.

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Sure.

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But will it sell?

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That's, that's the only question that really matters.

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Will it sell?

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And then the other follow-up that is when it will sell.

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So a little, little thing on Amazon, uh, relatability there is, um, Amazon

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has a sales score rank and then a generic book rank, right?

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It's a little similar on eBay.

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We just don't have fancy software, but we can look up how much it's sold within

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the month or 90 days or within a two year window, or maybe it's never been

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listed or maybe it's never been sold.

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Um, I think eBay is not for your casual grandma anymore.

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Um, if you want to make some real money now, can casual grandma still come up

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there and list her garage sale leftovers?

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Sure.

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Will she make balloon amount of money?

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No, she will not.

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I'm sorry.

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Do you think eBay is going to change the interface ever?

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Like I'm talking like a full overhaul, like things look different.

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The mobile app has looked a little bit different the past few times in

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the past two years or so, so they are making some changes to that, but just

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the overall, like, I feel like when I shopped on eBay, when I was a teenager,

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like the eBay homepage is almost the same homepage today as it was 20 years ago.

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Now they did change their logo.

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There, there's a link out there that eBay has at the eBay timeline.

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If you look at that, there it's fascinating.

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They used to have their fingers in a lot of different pies.

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They owned a lot of big companies that you've heard of.

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Um, I'll see if I can snag you the link.

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You can put in the notes later, but it's just really fascinating.

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They even changed the logo.

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So the logo has changed on the homepage, uh, technically, um, as far as what I've

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seen eBay doing as far, um, far out, what I've seen that's kind of cool, but they're

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doing is when you're going through a page on eBay, just for general results, you

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can scroll through the photos before you even click in the listing.

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That's pretty neat.

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Not every listing has that and there it's kind of like in beta phase, which is interesting.

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We've had photos increase this year.

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We've had video added this year.

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We've had a lot of bells and whistles added.

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However, I think, um, they're also doing that live auction nonsense.

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Um, the AI sucks, dude.

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I'm pulling that out there right now.

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Oh, it's going to suck.

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I mean, AI, artificial intelligence, it takes it a while to build up its intelligence.

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That's, that's been a hot topic this year.

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That's going to put resellers out of business.

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It's not, uh, resellers just have to adapt just like they always do.

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You can compete with the machines.

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This ain't Terminator, Ms.

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Sarah Connor.

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I'm sorry.

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Do you think, all right.

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So my mentality with eBay is usually can buy something cheaper on eBay than other sites.

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Do you think eBay can survive by continuously being that platform?

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Because like for me, just for some examples, like I buy, uh, my energy drinks off eBay

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because they're cheaper than in store or Amazon.

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I buy my, uh, vegan jerky off eBay because it's a lot cheaper than eBay.

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Because it's a lot cheaper than in store or on Amazon.

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Do you think eBay can continue to be like known as like, Oh, I can go here to get something

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cheaper and like grow that into keep growing it into success.

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Or do you think like we're going to get to a point here where it can't just be eBay's

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where you go to buy something cheaper.

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Because at the end of the day, if it's cheaper, eBay gets less fees.

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The sellers get less money.

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So eBay is not as happy and the seller is not as happy.

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I think eBay will continue to be known as one of the cheapest places to get an item.

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Cause what I do when I shop for something, I'll go pull it up on Amazon usually first,

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and then I'll swap on over to eBay to get it at the cheapest price.

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Cause usually if even if it says brand new Amazon, brand new eBay, easily

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eBay's 20, 30% under what Amazon's market value is.

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Now keep in mind, not, that's not always the case.

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Maybe sometimes it's a couple of dollars.

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There's all these variables, depending on the item or items in some

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cases, like multi-quantity stuff.

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Now I think eBay will never really transition out of the cheaper place.

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I think it may transition to having everything being known for that more

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than just a cheap place.

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The garage sale, the internet, that's what some people like to call it.

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I call it that myself sometimes, but I have noticed Amazon doesn't have everything.

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eBay tends to have everything.

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Yeah, definitely like weird stuff too.

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Like collectibles, things like that.

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You're just not going to find them on Amazon.

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You know, even the books you sell, a lot of those don't even have Amazon listing.

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So I do think there is a place for it.

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I'm just like trying to get my head around it.

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Like at the end of the day, these platforms rely on their sellers.

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And if I just think of like an overall, like I've had to put like a happiness

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rating, right?

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Like eBay seller happiness rating, an Amazon seller, an Etsy seller.

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Like what did like a happiness number between one and a hundred percent, a

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hundred percent being how happy the sellers are with the platform.

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I would say eBay is probably the most unhappy platform when it comes to sellers.

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Like I just think at least what I see in here, it's like, there's always a glitch.

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There's always something going on.

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Or maybe it's just a mentality that people think that because there's a stigma

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around the platform itself that, you know, you got this algorithm, you got, you

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got to do promoted listings, you got to do this, you got to do that.

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But I do think overall eBay sellers are the most frustrated with their platform

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when it comes to any reselling platform.

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I don't know if that's necessarily true.

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There's frustration across the board, no matter what.

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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One hundred percent.

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But I have a lot of clothing sellers.

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I have a lot of clothing sellers in my daily refinement group that also

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list on Poshmark and they hate that thing because there's so many limitations there.

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I hear them complain about that more than I do about eBay.

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And then talking to like you and Deb, I hear all the fun things about Etsy, right?

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And the problems that come along with that.

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So it's general unhappiness is eBay at the bottom.

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I'm saying it's at the bottom of the list, but is it the very bottom of that list?

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I can't say that's true in my personal opinion.

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I think Poshmark from all the vileness I hear from the clothing sellers is at the bottom.

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Maybe it's just the volume has turned out for me when it comes to like the eBay

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happiness scale, right?

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So that's probably what it is.

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You know, I just being on YouTube and the YouTubers I watch and I get suggested

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a lot of it is, you know, complaining.

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If we're just comparing Amazon to eBay.

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Yeah, eBay is at the bottom of that list.

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But if we're comparing all the platforms, there's a couple of the like I've mentioned

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Poshmark, Etsy, even whatnot gets mentioned here and there because of the, yeah, we're

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selling stuff, but it's only selling at one tenth of value.

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Sad face, but you sold some stuff.

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Stop complaining.

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But anyway.

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Yeah, it is.

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I do think though, like if we look at it, like eBay is as good as its sellers, right?

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So like, do you think, do you see eBay having some kind of standard practices that it is

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going to require for sellers?

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Because I mean, I never really thought about it until you, you told me, Mike, when you're

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listening something, make sure you're looking at those audio specifics because 95% of the

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time they're wrong.

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And I'll be straight up.

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I never really cared until you told me.

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And then I'm like, listen, books.

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And I'm like, what is this?

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Like the year is completely wrong.

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The publisher is completely wrong.

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And I do think it kind of hurts the marketplace.

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If you have the used book guy who has no idea what he's doing, listing things and just

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punching random numbers in, and then you come along and you hit sell similar and it

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pulls all my information.

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It's almost like a never ending cycle.

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And I do think kind of the educational gap on the platform can hurt eBay's growth.

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I mean, I mean, even eBay's AI is pulling from that internal database, right?

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And then we have the cross list, which is pulling from Amazon's database.

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And I've been telling you, getting back in the Amazon listing game, I've noticed

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that's not my book, but it's my only option, but it's still not my book.

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But okay then.

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So what am I left with?

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Creating a new listing that no one will ever buy or unless it's a collectible, then

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maybe they will.

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Or do I send this book in and hope I don't get a return?

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I mean, most people lead the, send the book in and hope I don't get a return.

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But with all of these incorrect databases and no quality assurance check going on by

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eBay or Amazon higher ups, because they're relying on us for the data entry, right?

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Well, if we data in a wrong, we're just selling a wrong item all day, every day.

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And I don't think they care on the upstairs, as long as they get a paycheck

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and it balances out over the returns.

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I got an experiment we need to try, right?

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We're going to just list like, I'm going to list a video game once, right?

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Normal PlayStation video game.

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I'm going to list it as like a T-shirt, like as like a Nike shirt and the title.

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The only thing it'll be is the brand will be, you know, Nike and things like that.

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Is there any kind of system that, you know, cause you're more involved over in

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the Taylor refinement group, is there any kind of system in place where it almost

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scans everything that's being listed?

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And if there's a huge, you know, misconception here, like a video game,

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listed as a T-shirt, like it automatically flags that because on Amazon, when you go

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to create a listing, they have a list of requirements.

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You can't just be like, okay, you can't just throw this out there with, you know,

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a picture of yourself flexing.

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That's not going to work.

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But I'm curious, is there anything on eBay that exists like that?

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I don't think so.

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I mean, you can upload the photos.

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They're going to see it's a video game.

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You can put in the title.

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That's a video game.

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We're still on a T-shirt listing, right?

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I think that, and then I'm not sure on the required, cause there's required

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and there's extra item specifics, right?

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I'm not sure you'll be able to fill in the required on the clothing, but beyond

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that, if you're able to fill in all of those, you can submit it and you're

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selling a video game as a T-shirt, essentially.

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Crazy to me, man.

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It's just like, there's plenty of great eBay sellers out there with huge

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stores that do it correctly, but then I also think about like for every one

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Johnny tech Commonwealth picker, there's like how many, you know, use book

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guys that have no idea what we're doing.

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And we just hit sell similar, right?

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It's like, it creates almost like this melting pot of the best and the worst.

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And I think, you know, it's, it's tough to kind of intertwine and kind of look

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at from the customer's perspective.

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And maybe that's why I'm like, I'm not sure I'm going to be able to sell

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perspective and maybe that's why, you know, a lot of the noise comes from.

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Uh, the eBay side is because if you're not doing your listing correctly from

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beginning to end, then it's not, it's never going to get seen.

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It's never, and it shouldn't get seen, honestly, right?

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If you're selling a video game as a T-shirt, it should never even

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show up in the search results.

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I do think it's like, you got to balance it out here, right?

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Because eBay requires it's sellers to, you know, carry the platform.

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Um, so do you put standards in and say, Hey, here goes your requirements

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when submitting a listing, uh, we have this, maybe this is something in the

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future, right?

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Where they have this almost thought that runs through the listings.

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And if it sees a video game listed as a T-shirt, it flags that listing.

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But until that time comes, they're kind of stuck in the middle where are we

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going to piss everybody off and do more requirements, or are we just

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kind of going to let it ride?

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It's interesting.

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You say that I think it's going to be the latter there.

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And because we've talked about bigger sellers and we looked at their

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negative feedback, we've also done experiments with bigger sellers, um,

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ordered six of the same product, the same condition and have it arrive in

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all kinds of, well, this is a better copy than I ordered, but this is also a

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worse copy than I ordered.

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They were all the same condition, right?

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By the bigger sellers, because they're, they're bigger operation.

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They do things very quickly and there's a margin of error, but it's, it's

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a large number when you're a gigantic store.

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Now us little sellers, we couldn't compete with that.

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Now the thing is in theory, these large sellers shouldn't be in business, but

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I, and a lot of other people are of the mindset, if you're making X amount of

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dollars on eBay and a daily basis, eBay does not give a shit, do whatever the

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hell you want, but you got to be at that way gigantic level in order for this

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to them, not to care.

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I never really thought about that.

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You just kind of like, you kind of opened my eyes up to like, you can go

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buy something that's good condition, right?

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Uh, a lot of these huge sellers use stock photos and you get, you can get a book.

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Um, I personally have had to buy books to complete sets to sell and it says

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good condition, it's a stock photo.

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It's an old paperback, kind of like the stuff you sell.

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And I'm just crossing my fingers at this thing.

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Doesn't show up like, you know, completely.

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So, and you don't know what you're going to get, but there's really no quality

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control and I think about, but somebody goes on the eBay and buy something, you

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know, from, from you and says it's good condition, you're using a stock photo.

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They get it.

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Now they got to deal with the headache of the whole return process.

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This is where I think maybe they could do something better.

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I know everybody out there is the scammers, Mike, I'm going to get

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scammed, the return scams.

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Well, I'm here to tell you.

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It's at the end of the day, if there's no customers for eBay, you ain't got

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no business, no more chiefs out here.

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Yeah.

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I'm just saying you, I think return should be approved across the board.

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You can, you know, you can drag me out and beat me up in the park

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a lot if you want about it.

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But I just see the power that Amazon has.

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Why by approving a return, regardless of whether it's wrong, right, new,

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we use anything like that.

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And yeah, for sellers, it sucks, but you have a business and you should be able

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to understand your return rates, how much returns are costing you, what

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products are getting returned.

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So you kind of can adjust your business.

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So I think if eBay went to the, Hey, you don't get to choose your refund policy

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anymore, I think, I think they would see a huge uptick in customers.

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And yes, we probably would see a small uptick in returns and sure there's always

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scammers, but if you treat it like a business and the refund shouldn't matter to you,

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you should be understanding your business numbers on the back.

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Listen, I'm saying it here, eBay.

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Free refunds for everybody.

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Well, two things here, like even on Amazon, we know lots of people sell things at new.

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We know it's not new, right?

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It's not.

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And I'm not calling anybody out in the discord group, but I've seen a few of you

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mentioned this, don't do it.

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Finger waggling.

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Now too, most of my stuff is marked good or acceptable.

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I'm sure some of it could fly as very good or like new, honestly, but I kind of

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grayed down a little bit and those that have been to my call, eBay call and have known

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me a while in the Mike's group know that I'm very, very detailed with my condition

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notes.

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So even if I'm wrong, it should be acceptable.

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All the flaws are right there.

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I spelled everything out for you or let's say, Hey, it's an acceptable book.

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This is really good technically, but all the flaws are there.

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So I don't think the words good or acceptable matter as much to at least to my customers

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because everything that's wrong is right beside that acceptable or good.

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Honestly, you know what you're getting.

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All right.

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I got another hot take coming in here.

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All right.

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eBay in the way it is today should not allow stock photos.

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Geez, man, you're shutting down half of eBay right there.

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Listen, if eBay is the platform, it says it is where sellers are selling the exact

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items they have, right?

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This is an Amazon.

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They're trying to differentiate themselves.

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Why do we allow stock photos, especially for used items?

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But yet again, they would need some kind of software to detect, Hey, this is a stock

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photo, right?

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Because there's no turn.

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There's no way they can actually manage all the listings being uploaded on a daily

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basis.

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But I'm just saying another hot take.

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If eBay is going to be the platform where Johnny B can go in there and sell his items,

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then you should have to have actual pictures of those items if they want to go that route.

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I'm going to hot take you back with Amazon here.

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What if Amazon still one listing, right?

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But depending who's got the buy box for the day, they have to have their own photos for

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their item.

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It would make sense.

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It would make 100% sense.

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And I wouldn't care.

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But at the end of the day, you go buy something on Amazon.

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All I got to do is hit two buttons to return it.

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Drop it off at UPS.

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I got my money back.

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I don't have to call Johnny B up on the phone and be like, Yo, dude, you sold me some crappy

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book.

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You said it was good.

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This thing, your cat peed on this book.

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I want my money back.

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And Johnny B is like, I don't even have a cat, bro.

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You're not getting your money back.

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And then the person's got to call eBay.

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eBay's got to contact you.

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And it's like, I think that huge headache pushes customers away after they have one

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of those experiences.

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And unfortunately, not everybody is like you or me where they just say, hey, return the

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item.

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It's perfectly fine.

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Money back.

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Because a lot of people just I think a lot of people feel like their refund is like a

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personal attack on them.

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Right?

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It's like, oh, my God, why are you refunding my item?

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And yet it sucks, especially with a high ticket item.

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But that's the reality of it.

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I think if eBay would just go one way or the other, it would be I think I think they would

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get so many more customers.

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Now, as far as seller rights, here's been an interesting one this year.

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We've noticed that it's harder and harder to get a negative feedback removed.

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I don't get many.

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I don't think I've had one this year, honestly.

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But I had a friend of mine whose negative feedback was literally a period like the punctuation

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period.

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And they couldn't get it removed because eBay's counterargument and they called in a couple

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of times.

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And that's the other thing.

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You used to be able to call in an agent shop.

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They don't allow you to do that anymore.

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It's like two and you're done.

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You can't do it again.

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And even the even the companies that will call in on your behalf, like the feedback fixer,

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they can't get them removed hardly half the time anymore.

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So those negative feedbacks are sticking around.

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Again, I don't know if it matters on the upper echelon of gigantic sellers.

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I don't think it matters.

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But for smaller people, there matters very much because what's the first thing if you're

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an active eBay shopper, you look when you're looking at a new seller, you want to know

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if you're going to get scanned or not.

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So you go look at their feedback.

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It's one of the first things you do if you're an active eBay shopper and you're shopping

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at a new place.

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I got a crazy idea I'm going to throw out there.

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I just came up with this idea.

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eBay goes around like Amazon where if you search for an item, there's one listing with

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a stock photo and all you click through and it's just the condition and the price.

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It'd be a beautiful day.

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My work day would be done in like an hour or two.

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I think the problem with eBay is that it's so like one day the seesaw is this way, one

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day the seesaw is that way.

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They make a change, the seesaw goes this way.

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They make another change.

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I think if they just said, all right, this is who we're going to be and just embrace

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it, right?

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This is the platform we want to be.

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This is the sellers we kind of expect to be.

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These are the customers we want to have.

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I think it would go light years into growing the platform.

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Sellers, sure, you're always going to have crybabies.

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We all know there's resellings.

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There's crybabies everywhere you look.

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Any corner of the room, there's at least one crybaby.

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So like we don't care about those people.

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I think you need to start focusing on their core sellers, giving them maybe even having

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some kind of feedback thing.

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And I'm not talking about this stupid eBay open where people think they actually care

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about what they're saying, right?

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A lot of this stuff goes over their heads.

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And I'm like, who makes the decisions at eBay?

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Right? Like for a perfect example, when they stop letting you sell things, right?

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We all know Dr. Seuss, right?

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The huge Dr. Seuss fiasco, get rid of his books.

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It took me about a year to find one.

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I finally found one out in the thrift store, right?

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Well, you can't listen on eBay, right?

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I understand the thought process behind when there's controversial things going on.

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But like, Johnny, is there one guy up at eBay that makes a decision on whether or not a

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specific item can be listed on the platform, right?

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I just feel like there's no really, there's no like, hey, what do we think about this,

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right?

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What do we think about this as a company, as a community?

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Is it a step in the right direction or is it Johnny B up in his ivory tower with a yes

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or no button, right?

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And like, Johnny, we got one coming in for you.

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He takes a look and then you can't listen on eBay.

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That's so funny.

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You brought this up because we were just talking about this this this week's Wednesday call

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and refinement.

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We were looking at the prohibited items.

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Books aren't there.

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There's technically not a category for books.

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However, there are different policies like Holocaust denial.

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That's under some other thing.

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So to me, it works like this.

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If you have keywords that's on eBay's naughty list, it ain't going through because I've

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had messages pop up on plenty of books telling me why I can't list it.

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But it doesn't really say it's particular book.

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It's more of it's covering this topic or this category of things that it's a no go.

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Now, other things that you mentioned specifically, like jewelry was definitely a category,

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but it's more of these hot topic topics, honestly, that'll get you no go.

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It's like it's kind of opinion based at the end of the day, right?

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Like the way you look at it.

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Like I had an attack on Dresden book, two of them in two different editions.

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Like 30, $40 books, right?

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There were listings up there.

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Mine wouldn't go through because there's Holocaust denial.

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And I'm looking at the table of contents.

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It has literally nothing to do about Holocaust.

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And for those that aren't into history, it's literally when the good old US of A took some

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flight bombers and bomb the crap out of Germany.

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Nothing to do with the Holocaust.

474
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So I called eBay up and their general responses changed the title.

475
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:29,760
And I did.

476
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,800
And it went through.

477
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,440
That's all I did.

478
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:37,280
So it's like they almost have a list of words that automatically flag in the system.

479
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:37,840
Yes.

480
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,240
I mean, that would be the cheapest and easiest way to do it, right?

481
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,400
You know, if you don't want Dr. Seuss or because all you got to do is put Dr. Seuss,

482
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,480
the title of the books, right?

483
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,400
And then you don't have to worry about like if you just put children's books,

484
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:56,400
you know, instead of green eggs and ham, blue, whatever and whatever, right?

485
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,360
And it would go through.

486
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:58,080
So I don't know.

487
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,160
I just feel like those kind of decisions are so opinion based.

488
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,600
Like I don't think you're ever going to fully win a decision like that.

489
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,240
But I do see there being issues when it's really not like a clear cut across the board

490
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,760
consensus where, hey, you know, we're going to keep this on the platform.

491
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,240
We're not going to keep this banned item on the platform.

492
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,160
You can sell baby formula one week.

493
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,240
You can't sell baby formula another week.

494
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,640
There's just so many things.

495
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,640
I do think eBay doesn't really do a good job of explaining that to you, right?

496
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,120
Because if you said to your average eBay seller, do you know where you can go find

497
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,600
a list of everything that you can't sell?

498
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,440
All the titles.

499
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:36,720
I don't know.

500
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,320
I don't know where I can find it as a part.

501
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,640
And I would argue most part time eBay sellers.

502
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:40,880
Sure.

503
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,000
We know the brands, right?

504
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,120
You know, like the big ones with P90X, you know, Rosetta Stone.

505
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,080
It's like we all know those, but like they don't really promote.

506
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,560
Hey, here's what you shouldn't be listing on our platform until you list it.

507
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,680
And then all of a sudden, hey, hey, Mike, that's a strike on your account, buddy.

508
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,960
Good luck, Chuck.

509
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,800
Your listings are going to be buried for a month.

510
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,760
It's like, guys, if there was just a little bit of communication here,

511
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,320
it would never even got to the platform.

512
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,960
I think that would do it'd be less headaches for them

513
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,120
because we're not going to list the stuff.

514
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,520
Maybe like a monthly newsletter or something eBay could send out to its sellers,

515
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,240
just, you know, updating me on what they're working on in the background.

516
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,080
I think communication will go a far away with eBay because eBay sellers,

517
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,400
you know, it's just average shows like me and you, right?

518
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,480
Like if we have a little bit of communication, like, hey,

519
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,320
here's what we're working on in the background.

520
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Well, you're going to give us feedback.

521
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,920
You know, here's a little feedback thing.

522
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,920
I just feel like it's a huge missed opportunity.

523
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,120
It's like a platform for the people, but they don't listen to the people.

524
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,480
Right now they've had now looking through this,

525
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,160
there were some funny obvious ones.

526
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,560
Can't sell human body parts, apparently on eBay.

527
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,520
Now I get why they made this rule.

528
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,040
People dig up like mummy type stuff and tried to sell it.

529
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:59,040
But I bet you there was some other things that we won't go into trying to be sold on eBay.

530
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,880
Can't sell grenades and land mines on eBay for obvious reasons,

531
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,800
but apparently you can sell C4 books because I sold one the other day.

532
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,160
Anyway, it was listed on as a cookbook.

533
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,800
Amusing.

534
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,560
eBay, again, I think it's just a big list of keywords and terms or

535
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,160
they caught something that somebody phoned in about eBay

536
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,320
and then had to go upstairs like grenades.

537
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,200
I'm sure some jerk off once upon a time, tried to sell a legit grenade on eBay.

538
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,160
And maybe they did sell it and eBay is like,

539
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,840
maybe we shouldn't be allowing this, which is a good call.

540
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,800
But it's keyword based, right?

541
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:39,760
Yeah.

542
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,160
Yeah.

543
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,040
What do you want?

544
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,680
What do you want to see from eBay in the next year to make it?

545
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,160
I don't know.

546
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,360
Just just for you to just for your happiness level to go up with eBay.

547
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,240
What do you want to see from eBay in the next year?

548
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,480
Something they can't give me, but I'll go ahead and say

549
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,720
I want full transparency on what the numbers actually mean.

550
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,480
Like promoted listings.

551
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,720
I do it because it's a requirement in my field these days.

552
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,320
And I notice what happened.

553
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,840
I know Max is not a fan of promoted listing and I agree with him.

554
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,400
It's horrible.

555
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:10,800
I hate it.

556
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,680
But so let's say I have 10 percent.

557
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,040
OK, so you're spending 10 percent of my advertising money

558
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,880
to go out and advertise my product.

559
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,640
Who the heck are you showing this to?

560
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,080
You showing grandma who doesn't read or you showing the active book

561
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,720
readers actually interested in the topic my books about?

562
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,400
I have no idea who they're showing this item to.

563
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,720
But yet I'm paying a fee to eBay for them to advertise on behalf.

564
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,440
I want to know who the heck they're advertising it to.

565
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,760
Should I be giving you 10 percent of my money if you're just going to show it off to

566
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,320
Billy the dyslexic who can't even read?

567
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,520
That does me no good.

568
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,280
Be they not at all.

569
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,440
This that is a really valid point.

570
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,080
And I'm going to I'm going to because Deb experiences this with Etsy.

571
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,920
And I will say this Shopify allows you to track your traffic down to the

572
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,720
demographic, the city they're in, the age, the sex of this person.

573
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,280
Like it allows you to track everything.

574
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,080
But Etsy is the same way you get an offsite ad.

575
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,800
You don't know where they click.

576
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,920
Google dot com.

577
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,240
How do I even know that, first off, that it's going to the right person?

578
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Or second off, that it was even purchased through the actual promoted listing?

579
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,720
That's the other thing.

580
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,000
I don't know if it is or not.

581
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,160
I mean, it tells me when a seller sold through promoted listing.

582
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,440
But was it really?

583
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,160
Was it really?

584
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,480
I mean, we'll never know.

585
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,160
And that's like, I don't know.

586
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,120
It's kind of shady to me.

587
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,360
Right.

588
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,400
It's like, I mean, sure, it's probably sold through a promoted listing.

589
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,320
But who's to say, like, you know, overall, the company has a slow month.

590
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:44,480
Right.

591
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,800
And they're like, well, we've got to hit people with a few promoted

592
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,680
promoted listing sales just so we can put the extra 10, 15 percent in our pocket.

593
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,800
There has to be transparency with things like this.

594
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,600
If you can track it, why can't I see it from the person that's paying for it?

595
00:29:59,600 --> 00:29:59,840
Right.

596
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,000
Because at the end of the day, you were literally paying for it.

597
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
You're paying for your item to be boosted.

598
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,720
You should be able to see what that person searched for,

599
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,720
what rank you were on the page and when they clicked it.

600
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:10,960
Right.

601
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,480
I mean, you just said it right there.

602
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,160
If I can know what they typed in, I could do a better listing.

603
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,160
It would make me a better seller.

604
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,240
But I'm up to a guessing game.

605
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,360
I'm all alone.

606
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:27,440
Now, there's other book sellers and we talk, but it would be helpful to know our user base.

607
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,240
I think.

608
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,520
To sell to.

609
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Yeah.

610
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,840
I think it would actually I think it would benefit promoted listings overall.

611
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,280
I think more people would use it more if they seen that, hey, OK,

612
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,960
I'm promoting this Dracula book.

613
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,560
Somebody search horror books.

614
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,080
My Dracula book popped up because my promoted listing was at 10 percent.

615
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Right.

616
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,440
All of a sudden, you start seeing the actual attainable of what's going on in the back end

617
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,880
for what you're paying for.

618
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,560
And you're like, all right, this makes sense.

619
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,760
It's working the way it should.

620
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,000
Right.

621
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,440
Because we don't know right now.

622
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:57,680
All right.

623
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,000
We think it works the way it should, but there's no there's no actual physical proof.

624
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,320
Now, we did an experiment.

625
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:10,480
We looked at Stephen King's it and we saw things in there with just two

626
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,440
letters it.

627
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,400
And sold multiple of them, not the word Stephen King, not the word that even that it was a

628
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,440
darn book in there.

629
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,200
And then we did it again for another couple of books that are a little less known.

630
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Sure.

631
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Like, OK, it's a popular book is just going to sell because of the name.

632
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:26,480
Right.

633
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,120
So title structure.

634
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,760
Does does that matter as much as people think?

635
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:32,960
No.

636
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,680
However, I make it a little easier on my like 10 percent of customers to come to my store.

637
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:46,720
They know they can search for genre and author and by title and by topic, that's a type of

638
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,560
book format, paperback, hardback, whatever at my store.

639
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,600
That's the reason I have my title structure the way it is.

640
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Now, does it matter as far as what sells or in what order?

641
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,120
I'm sure to some extent it does.

642
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:06,240
But looking at sold on things, how much it matters, I don't think it matters as much

643
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,440
as people think it does. That's like being pumped out on the Internet.

644
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,720
Like it must be this regimented this way.

645
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,720
I don't think that's necessarily true.

646
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,200
I think you may have better placement or you may have like we were just talking about how

647
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,960
our customers searching.

648
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,480
I think that matters the most.

649
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:28,240
If you make your title how a customer searches, of course, you're going to sell it faster.

650
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,720
What about eBay standardized how you had to have your title structure?

651
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,720
That would be very interesting.

652
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,240
I think I would like that, honestly, personally, that everybody's on the same page, both seller

653
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,040
and customer.

654
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,960
It would, you know, the customers would be more happy because if they're searching Stephen

655
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,320
King it right.

656
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,440
That's what's going to pop up.

657
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:53,200
Maybe it's the title, the author, the title, and then maybe the year of your book or edition.

658
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,560
But like maybe just one or two main requirements would go a long way because everybody would

659
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,920
search and everybody would search.

660
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,800
You know, they don't see Stephen King.

661
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,320
They don't see Stephen King.

662
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Like it just kind of it's strong.

663
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:14,000
And all those buzzwords would go out of their new sign, and shrink, rare, vintage, fire

664
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,360
emojis, man.

665
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,200
Double fire emojis.

666
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,320
I think if I ever got into eBay heavily, I would just put a fire emoji in all my titles

667
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,880
so people would know, hey, it's the used book guy, right?

668
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,160
There's a fire brand.

669
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,720
Yeah.

670
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,080
You just search fire.

671
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,640
And the eBay thing and all my stuff will pop up because I'm the only person doing it.

672
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,440
Now, some of the old eBay sellers, if you've been on there for a while, you have a little

673
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,720
banner beside your listings.

674
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,680
You can't get this today.

675
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160
It's just if you've been on eBay since the beginning of time.

676
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,080
So some of the bigger media sellers that are still around, I know who they are instantly

677
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,160
because they got a darn banner beside their eBay listing.

678
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Same for uniform background.

679
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,760
You can notice instantly the same book seller.

680
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,320
Because they use the same background typically.

681
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:04,320
I mean, I've gone through three or four backgrounds, but most of mine are recognizable.

682
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:11,200
Does the ease of use for eBay when it comes to sellers, does that hurt or benefit the

683
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,240
platform?

684
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:18,160
The fact that somebody could round up stuff in their garage today and list it on the platform

685
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,040
not ever having listed anything on the platform.

686
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,800
Does eBay have listing tutorial videos or does everybody just have to search out daily

687
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,760
refinement and that's their unpaid eBay crash course?

688
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,240
It's a hard question to answer.

689
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,560
Yes, they're out there, but they're out of date.

690
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,600
You're better off going to what do I need to do today, the refinement route, honestly.

691
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:49,200
And even then you have to then go, for me, I'd have to go to the media call, OK, I'm

692
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,280
going to list media guys.

693
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,760
And then you're going to get all kinds of different answers because the way I list is

694
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,320
a lot different than the way Jared lists.

695
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:04,640
And the way me and Jared list is a lot different than, let's say, Brad would list or new guy

696
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,320
who just joined or Mel back from burnout.

697
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,120
Everybody lists differently based off what they do and how they want things to be sold

698
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,160
essentially.

699
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,920
Like me, I catered mine to the 10 percent guys who are actually going to go to my store.

700
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:27,120
I have everything they need to know item specific wise, usually in the title and 80 characters.

701
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:34,800
Now, Jared just kind of does it the way he does because this is more.

702
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,080
I sell old stuff.

703
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,640
He sells newer stuff, I guess is the best way to put it.

704
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,080
So he caters toward that audience.

705
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:48,320
I am I just went on the eBay's website here and I went to their help section and I went

706
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,320
to create a listing right for the first time.

707
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,960
And how to put in the box how to create a listing.

708
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,880
It's just a text document.

709
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,240
I don't think that I don't think that's going to help you.

710
00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,520
It does look like a lot of this stuff.

711
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,400
There's just it's all text like eBay has in the help section.

712
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,200
There's really no like I think they tell you what a field means because when I looked at

713
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,360
eBay fields the first time, like what's this mean?

714
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,240
I don't understand.

715
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:10,960
What's this mean?

716
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,160
It's got drop downs.

717
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,960
Okay, I can kind of figure out what it's trying to want me to put in here.

718
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,960
I got a crazy take here.

719
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,320
Another crazy take.

720
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:24,480
I think if they leverage some of the bigger eBay sellers, supporters that are on YouTube,

721
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,520
that are on social media and kind of maybe, you know, it's like if they paid, you know,

722
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,680
paid you to do a course on how to properly list the book, shoot a three minute video

723
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,120
of you doing a listing beginning to end and having that available for new sellers.

724
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,280
I think that would go light years because they can promote, hey, we have videos,

725
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,560
anything you want to list.

726
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,320
You want to learn how to list license plates.

727
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,680
You want to learn how to list that and you have people that are proven.

728
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,240
I'm not saying, you know, Joe Blow, we're not getting anybody.

729
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:56,000
I'm getting top of the top people that promote the platform, selling the platform heavily.

730
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,640
Have these people, real life people.

731
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,080
We don't want people in suits, right?

732
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,760
We want, you know, dudes wearing Ninja Turtle shirts, you know, stuff like that.

733
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,960
We want these types of people because that's their seller base.

734
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,160
And that's what we want.

735
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,680
I think it would go so far if they just started connecting with the community that they have.

736
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,920
And it's like eBay sellers are the plague.

737
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,960
We don't want to deal with them.

738
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,000
We don't want to hear from them.

739
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Besides this one time a year, we have this event and we make it seem like, hey, we're

740
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,640
going to do all these things and then none of it comes to fruition.

741
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,840
Now eBay does have a YouTube channel.

742
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,920
However, if you go to that YouTube channel, it's whatever eBay is in to at the time.

743
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,120
And I think right now it's just a bunch of shoe stuff.

744
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,400
I'm not a shoe seller.

745
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:45,120
I would much prefer a general how to do eBay versus a specific thing that I don't care about.

746
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,400
I don't care about shoes.

747
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,120
Sorry if you're a shoe seller listening to this, but I don't care.

748
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,400
I'm a book seller.

749
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Tell me how to do books or tell me how to do eBay properly to get more sales with my books.

750
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:01,520
Even though it may not be book specific, if it helps me generate more sales or do my eBay listings

751
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,440
better to then cause an effect result to that, that'd be great.

752
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,400
But no, I'm relying on third party things like, which is not a bad thing, but I have

753
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,800
groups like your group, the refinement group or personal contacts I've made in the industry

754
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,840
that aren't in any group.

755
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,160
eBay does not make it easy.

756
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,280
Amazon does make it kind of easy even though there's the argument you need to learn all

757
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:35,200
these software programs, the initial hurdle of learning how to even join Amazon's harder

758
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:35,760
than eBay.

759
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:43,040
But at the end of the day, it's much easier workflow day to day than eBay, certainly.

760
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,000
That's the other thing.

761
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,760
I want them to make that punishment stick go away if you don't do your listings every day.

762
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,040
That would be the most glorious thing eBay would ever do.

763
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,880
Now, I mentioned this before.

764
00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,640
I'm okay if you get a bonus, an extra push out, but don't care and stick it here.

765
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,800
Just carrots all the time, please.

766
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,080
How about instead of the listing thing, it's based off the quality of your listings, right?

767
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:14,960
If I'm listing 50 crappy items every day with one picture, no descriptions,

768
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,600
that should be penalized versus somebody like myself who does one listing a week,

769
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,960
but that listing has 12 photos of the book, has a description, all the item specifics.

770
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,320
I don't think that person should get penalized just because they can't get on every day.

771
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,720
I think the person that's listing the garbage on the platform should be the one penalized,

772
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,000
even though it's every single day.

773
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,560
Who cares?

774
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,240
It's trash can listings.

775
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,160
Your customers don't want to see this nonsense.

776
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,160
And it's kind of backwards thinking, I guess.

777
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:43,520
Right.

778
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,720
Or maybe it's a certain dollar amount you're listing a day before they even launch your listings.

779
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:52,640
That would be cool to see because that would eliminate a lot of the, excluding auctions,

780
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,880
I'm talking about buy it now, that would eliminate a lot of these dollar buy it nows.

781
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,360
What about transparency across the board with the daily listing stuff, right?

782
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,720
So maybe it's something where they come out with this piece of paper, some kind of document,

783
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:12,720
say, hey, if you list every day, you can expect to see an increase of 20%.

784
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,000
If you do listings the correct way with at least eight photos of your item,

785
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,840
you're going to see an increase of 25%.

786
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:24,720
If it was just something that was transcribed, it's just like, you don't know what's going on,

787
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:24,880
right?

788
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,600
It's just like, hey.

789
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,520
I'm going to counter that where I disagree.

790
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,480
And here's why.

791
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,600
Because I still have a message from eBay to set up my store and do a store video from eBay page.

792
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,320
And they're guaranteeing me 35% more sales.

793
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,760
I'm calling BS.

794
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:46,480
Nobody who shops at eBay wants to see me or my bookstore on a video on my store page.

795
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,520
Go to hell, eBay.

796
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,560
That's a lie.

797
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,160
Pay someone on Fiverr, dude.

798
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,560
No, I mean, I could.

799
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,120
I need to do it.

800
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:53,680
I just have it.

801
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,960
But I find it hilarious that they're promising me like 35% more sales if I do this.

802
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,920
I don't believe it.

803
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:00,720
You don't know.

804
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,000
Maybe you should try it.

805
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,200
No, I do know because other people have done the video and they didn't see that increase at all.

806
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,560
That's like, I'm not doing it then.

807
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,120
I do think there is like a lot eBay can work on.

808
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,240
It is a great platform.

809
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:24,720
I still think the opportunity to just sell stuff around your house or even have a business based off of supply and demand, having a platform like eBay, it changes lives.

810
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:30,320
As much as me and you sit here and say you want to see all these changes from it, I still think it's a great platform.

811
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,320
I don't think it's going anywhere.

812
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,520
I just think sooner or later, they're going to get to like kind of like we are with all of us are listening to this.

813
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,680
We all get to a point in our business where you got to take the path left through the forest or right across the river.

814
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,920
It's like the Oregon Trail here for business.

815
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,720
You got to decide.

816
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:50,800
Maybe not everybody's going to make it across the river, but it's a little quicker.

817
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:57,840
I think they are going to get to a point here probably within the next five to 10 years where they got to decide this is our identity.

818
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,680
This is who we're going to be.

819
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:05,440
I think eBay could see a huge resurgence depending on how they decide to handle the fork in the road.

820
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:12,320
Now, it's a lot easier for me to complain about eBay because I want things from eBay that I don't currently have.

821
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,000
Now, I am grateful.

822
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,320
Thank you, eBay, for my half warehouse.

823
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Thank you, eBay, for my employee.

824
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Thank you, eBay, for me to continue the livelihood and grow my livelihood.

825
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,200
Thank you, eBay.

826
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,240
You've gotten this.

827
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,880
I think like a lot of people kind of really don't see that, right?

828
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,040
Like, yeah, maybe your sales aren't where they want to be, but you're selling stuff you can't sell.

829
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,200
It's not like I could go out front and sit outside with my books for $10 and sell them, right?

830
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,240
Like, that doesn't exist.

831
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:46,720
So like the fact you had the opportunity in front of you to have a business like this, sure, any platform we sell on has headaches, concerns.

832
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:54,320
We'll definitely do an Amazon one of this and maybe we'll even do one for all the other platforms kind of all together because no platform is perfect.

833
00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:04,080
But I do think eBay has I think eBay has the greatest upside opportunity out of all the platforms to kind of transform into something that's next level.

834
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:16,480
And that's even I'm going Amazon and I talk to like I think eBay has the greatest opportunity in front of them to decide who they want to be and grow the platform and make it seller friendly, make it customer friendly.

835
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,680
You can have both.

836
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,840
You don't have to be a platform that hates sellers or a platform that hates customers.

837
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,720
You can be both.

838
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:23,040
Right.

839
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:30,240
And they kind of I think that kind of when I think about that, I think about Etsy when it first started, right, was handmade products.

840
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:38,800
Johnny B's, you know, making stuff with his hands and the person buying it appreciates it because they knew, hey, Johnny B made this himself.

841
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,400
And that's he has kind of moved away from that.

842
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:49,600
But when I do think about like seller friendly, customer friendly, I think Etsy and its beginning times where everything was handmade and customers knew they were getting everything handmade.

843
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,680
That was the perfect marriage, even though it was divorced over the years.

844
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,800
I do think there is that that medium can still be found.

845
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,000
It doesn't exist on Amazon.

846
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:58,960
I'll tell you that right now.

847
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,280
Sellers hate Amazon.

848
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,560
Customers love Amazon.

849
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,240
It's just, you know, that's just the way it is.

850
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,880
So they don't even have a close to being down over there.

851
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,920
But I do think eBay can make steps in the right direction.

852
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,320
What do you think about eBay kind of like coming to a fork in the road where they're going to have to go left or right?

853
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,760
You think they're just going to continually just walk straight in a straight line?

854
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Or do you think they're going to get to a point where they either make this decision or make this decision?

855
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:29,120
I believe I'm going to get a little bit political here is we need a stable CEO at eBay.

856
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,840
We've had we're on number 11 or 12 now, and eBay is only 20 years old.

857
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,520
So we use some math.

858
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:41,120
That's every couple of years we get a new guy who gets to run the show or the circus, however you want to look at it.

859
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:47,520
So we get somebody who knows what they're doing with the clear cut direction and eBay sticks with that.

860
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,080
And I get it.

861
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,920
You have stockholders to account to.

862
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,680
They are a public traded company.

863
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,560
They're not happy.

864
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,880
Usually top guy gets axed.

865
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,920
New guy comes in.

866
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,920
It's like, OK, what can you do?

867
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,360
You got about two years to do it.

868
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,080
Looks like your first hundred days in office, right?

869
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,280
See what you can do.

870
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,680
We've had like new innovations with like the shoe and the car parts, whatever, which is great.

871
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,440
And that's usually what happens with new guys.

872
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,600
They try one thing and if it's really successful, they'll stick around.

873
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,800
I don't think eBay's had that moment where it's been really successful.

874
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:27,520
The other flip part of that is the coding that's still running on 1996 technology.

875
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,120
I said how many programmers have been in and out in there?

876
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,440
How many band aid band aids are holding this thing together?

877
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,120
You guys need to, I'm sure, shut down eBay for three months.

878
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,560
Give us all a heads up.

879
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:46,320
We'll all go work at Uber for three months while you fix the ship so you can have you can.

880
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,400
Like you said, you don't think it's ever been updated.

881
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,000
I don't think you're wrong in that.

882
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:57,360
Some things need to change to make eBay better as a whole, even if it's a site migration.

883
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,280
And that would be hell on earth because I've done those in corporate and they're not fun.

884
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,600
But after it's done, it's a beautiful thing.

885
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,600
Let's make eBay a beautiful thing again.

886
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Let's make it 2029, not 1999 technology.

887
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,880
eBay starts using AWS, Amazon's web services.

888
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,800
It's like, who cares?

889
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,640
Just give us something that actually works.

890
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,760
I think we're going to wrap it up here.

891
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:27,120
I think my last thing with the future of eBay is, yes, it's frustrating at times,

892
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:32,560
but understand it's still a viable business option as a reseller, whether you're like Johnny

893
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,480
and you just do eBay or maybe you're somebody like me where you mix in eBay here and there.

894
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,840
Maybe you're part time.

895
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,200
You still can sell items regardless of all the nonsense you see.

896
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,280
And it's a great opportunity to just kind of put a little bit extra money in your pocket

897
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,600
or live off of like Johnny does.

898
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,880
It works both ways.

899
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,560
And we always want something more.

900
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,480
I don't think we're ever going to be 100% satisfied with any platform.

901
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,800
With anything in life, right?

902
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,520
It's like, you're never going to be 100% satisfied.

903
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,480
Just hopefully they make the right decisions.

904
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,920
Hopefully when the CEO leaves, they put tech in charge, right?

905
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,520
I'm voting for tech.

906
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,360
I'm putting tech in charge regardless.

907
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,440
I don't care what the shareholders say.

908
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,280
It's like a 10 year deal too, right?

909
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,000
It's like when you hire a coach, we're not firing this dude like a year into it, right?

910
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,160
Even if the first season's bad, 10 year deal, eBay be a new platform

911
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,200
and 10 years will all be.

912
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,920
It's like that Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan deal, man.

913
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,800
That'd be great.

914
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,680
I'm just saying.

915
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,560
I mean, I've put a lot of great ideas out there for eBay.

916
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,640
If the eBay CEO is sitting in his office listening to this, sorry,

917
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,360
but tech's got to come in and take that chair from me.

918
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,320
It is what it is.

919
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,240
I mean, that's just the reality of the life we lead and the game we play.

920
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,200
So we appreciate.

921
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Listen, if you're on YouTube, make sure to comment, like, and subscribe.

922
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,480
And make sure you give it a thumbs up if you're out there.

923
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,480
We appreciate all the five star reviews.

924
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,160
We take time out of our weeks every single week to have this little chat here

925
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,000
and future of eBay, I'll still sell on eBay probably for the rest of my life.

926
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:00,720
How about you, Johnny?

927
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:01,360
You ever leaving?

928
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,760
Not until they put me in the ground.

929
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,120
Or they ban you.

930
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,800
Oh, don't say that, Mike.

931
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,440
That's bad.

932
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,840
No, I can die, but no banning.

933
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,640
It happens, dude, like in strikes every day somewhere.

934
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,680
And you might be out there with your kite flying your kite.

935
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,800
So we'll talk to you all next week.

936
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,240
I'll just grab my, you know, good.

937
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,040
We'll talk to you all next week's episode.

938
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,720
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939
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:29,200
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940
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