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questions today. We got a special guest, the
man out there, boots to the ground, driving probably
200 miles a day, serving the people, helping
them find their houses, Mr. Nathan, Nate Dogg,
Sugar Bear, Nathaniel Priest. Welcome, sir. Welcome,
sir. What an intro. Man, I'm feeling good about
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hey super professional that's clutch clutch i
love it mr nathan priest all right man so um
realtor here in the kansas city area welcome
to the show glad you're on we're gonna dive right
in man dive right in people want to know what's
actually going on in today's market. So let's
just dive into it. How long you've been doing
this? Take us through maybe like a quick little
timeline of your real estate career and your
journey and where you are now and what's going
on now. Yeah. So my senior year of college is
when I got my real estate license and never,
never looked back. And that was in basically
2003 is when I became licensed. So right at 20
years in the business and came out of the gate,
really doing pretty amazing. And then 2008 happened
and there was a lot of a lot of uh reality checks
and uh hard decisions that had to get made along
the way but then kind of came out of it and grabbed
market share came out the backside pretty pretty
strong so 20 years in real estate got the start
by some guy saying hey i want you to sell new
homes for me so i was like okay let's do it figure
it out as we go Yeah. How long have you always
been with the same shop or did you bounce around
a little bit? No. So I was working at Sherwin
-Williams Paint Stores my senior year of college.
And there was a developer who would always come
in and I'd help him out all the time. And he's
just like, you need to come work for me. And
he was with a Coldwell banker. And, you know,
I told my wife about it and she signed me up
for online courses at the time. I think we still
had like the dial up Internet. The online course.
The old AOL dial -up. Yeah, exactly. But three
weeks later, I was licensed after that. And you
keep that for development going. Sold a few houses.
And then, I don't know if Mike knows the name,
Bill Baird. He started a company called Infinity
Realty. He's now the mayor of Lee's Summit. And
I was kind of friends with him through my brother.
And so he's like, hey, I want you to come out
here. We got some new home developments we're
working on. So literally six months into my license,
you know, having my real estate license, I switched
companies from Colo Banker to a company called
Infinity Realty. And we started several new developments.
That's what brought me to Raymoor in 2005. That's
where Mike and I met. But in 2005, came out of
the gates, had fun. And then 2007. Sales started
sucking, and then everything went down the tubes.
Yeah, so during that time, that consumed Infinity
Realty. In about 2010, I started talking with
Lonnie Granson, and we kind of joined forces
at Kyle Williams in 2011. And Lonnie and I, you
know, ran through Cass County pretty good there
for about four or five years. I guess it was
2017, 2018 is when I started S &P Real Estate.
And still part of Keller Williams. Keller Williams
is great. The education, people coming out of
gate. If you want to know how to get started,
Keller Williams is the place to be. If you want
to grow a big business, Keller Williams is the
place to be as well. Seen some people out there.
We were talking about earlier out on social media.
Full on there, Keller Williams. logo, you know,
specialized logos and stuff like that. Yeah.
I just, I'm not good at the flaunting stuff.
I more like to connect with people and figure
out what I can do to help people achieve their
goals. And hopefully they'll see that, that they're
talking with somebody who knows what they're,
knows what they're doing and will help them achieve
their goals. You started with a builder. So did
you kind of. and enjoy that part like do you
still like the ground up construction business
or do you now dabble in a little bit of everything
i mean i guess you kind of have to right yeah
you do like so i've read i think four new home
developments throughout my career and uh i did
a lot of that work on my own um and uh those
those are very time consuming and so if you want
weekends uh for golf or family new home subdivisions
is a hard thing to run so i kind of got away
from the new home construction stuff i personally
we built a few houses um on a speculative basis
i would never do a custom build job for me because
because building a building a spec house you
can kind of move forward move fast and not wait
for decisions number one and then number two
uh like I've built a couple of houses last year
when lumber prices went nutso. Like a four by
eight sheet of plywood went from $12 to $80.
And of course, that's what I'm building. But
if you would have been building a house for a
custom build job and didn't have a clause in
there, you already got a set price and your lumber
bill comes in at $40 ,000 high. There goes all
your profit. So I'm really glad I didn't do any
custom. And I was able to set a price once all
the construction was complete. So, yeah. But
ground up takes a long time, you know, six to
nine months till you get paid as a realtor. It's
not for everybody. Yeah, that's not for everybody.
Yeah. But if you have them stacked and you got
them, once they start closing, they're nice,
right? So you start a subdivision in January
of 23. all of a sudden you know you're gonna
have a great christmas but but you better be
selling some other stuff along the way oh yeah
for sure so uh you know with the the current
housing market you know is the way it is right
with the low inventory the high interest rates
all the things we get slammed across the head
every single day in our business you know from
from your point of view like what's the what
are the biggest like hurdles or roadblocks that
you you know you're facing or how are you working
around them with your borrowers? So in terms
of representing, we'll start on the seller side,
if you will. The biggest roadblock I'm running
into, and I think the term out there is a mortgage
handcuff or handcuff mortgage, where somebody's
got a 2%, 3 % rate and their house has gone up
tremendously in value and they're in a position
where they're ready to move up. They're like,
I can't give up this rate. Like, it's going to
cost me. And so we're calling that the mortgage
handicap, where a seller is just like, I'm not
going to list my house because I can't replace
it. And, you know, a $450 ,000 house with principal,
interest, taxes, insurance, all that stuff is
going to run you about $3 ,500 a month, right?
And so they're sitting there with their $1 ,500
a month payment. And they could sell it and probably
make $100 ,000 more than they ever expected.
But that just goes to the down payment typically
to try and get PMI gone or whatever the case
may be. So the mortgage handcuffs probably the
number one problem for sellers getting off the
bench. But at the same time, homes get listed
every day. People got to sell for whatever reason.
So there's business out there to be had. And
you just got to put your name out there and ask
for a business. So there's something I've seen
a guy on a video, I forget who it was, explaining
it this way. And I guess it would be more for
a buyer who's hesitant, but also in that same
scenario you just said, where you have a house,
you kind of want to sell an upgrade, go bigger.
But that exact scenario you just said about the
monthly payment going up. So let's use $400 ,000
for an example. I want you to tell me if it's
accurate. So right now, buying a house, $400
,000. And you say, well, no, interest rates are
too high. That monthly payment's too high. But
let's say a year from now, a year and a half
from now, interest rates normalize, drop down
to maybe five and a half, 5%. And you refi. The
problem is the low inventory still isn't going
away. So if rates do drop, that $400 ,000 house
in a year and a half from now could possibly
be selling for $460 ,000, $465 ,000. Yeah, you're
absolutely 100 % right. So you would have only
paid. $5 ,500, $6 ,000 more because of the high
interest rate during that time period. So then
you refine and knock your payment down versus
paying $60 ,000 more for that house a year and
a half. So you've actually came out way ahead
by buying now versus when everybody floods the
market again because all of a sudden rates are
up. It's 100 % accurate. So in that scenario,
we'll take a step back just one. So I also do
some real estate investing, have a little bit
of a portfolio. And I've been investing since
2005, basically. And every time I look back,
I don't even have to look back 10 years. Let's
just say three years, five years realistically.
The only thing that I'm upset about is I didn't
buy more property. That's it. That's the only
thing that makes me mad. Doesn't matter what's
going on. And through 2008 through 2012, that's
a four -year span. I consider eight where the
drop really started and 12 was kind of the floor
and things started bouncing back up, if that's
what you guys agree with. But the properties
I bought during that time are still some of the
best properties in my portfolio, right? And it's
like, well, why didn't I buy 20 more? So it's
kind of to speak to that a little bit, Mike,
in terms of if somebody chooses to wait. you
don't get that time back. You just don't. That
time's gone. And then in my opinion, we got like
a five -month window right now. Real estate has
seasonality to it, right? School starts, people
start getting ready for Halloween, Thanksgiving,
Christmas. That run is just naturally a slower
time in real estate. And so we're starting to
see some price drops and things like that that
we weren't seeing two months ago. Obviously,
what price point you're in plays a role. The
lower the price point, the more competitive it
is. And I'll touch on that here in a second.
But if you can go and buy a house without having
to go 10 % over right now, and yeah, you're going
to have a rate somewhere in the sevens. But what
happens when that same house comes down to 5
%? The prices will go up. It's all about monthly
affordability, 100%. So there's so many lenders
out there that have really great... refinance
programs and, you know, no -cost refis and things
like that. They're setting themselves up because
we all expect rates to kind of come down in the
next, I expect it maybe closer to the end of
24. But, you know, let's call it 12 to 18 months.
We all expect rates to settle in the mid fives,
low sixes, where it should be, right? So those
house prices are going to go up by 10 % because
the cost. to build the new construction, you
can't go buy a brand new house in our area, which
is, I mean, considered a pretty conservative
area, but price point wise, for less than 400
grand, you know, a three bed, two bath, two car
garage split entry, that's 400 grand. If you're
trying to buy something under 400, I'd be buying
everything I could right now. You know, get something
new and nice. That house in my neighborhood is
like 750, 800 all day. And see, that's what's
hard about the real estate is just the market
through, you know, coastal city versus, you know,
middle of what people consider cow town. Best
barbecue you ever had, baby. That's a good barbecue.
You're always claiming about the Kansas City
barbecue. One of these days I got to get there
and try it. Come on out. We can do a live show
here in Kansas City at one of the barbecue places.
We'll go to that. Yeah. Oh, now we're thinking.
Go to like KC Joe's or probably Joe's. Yeah,
we could hit a couple. Do a little couple. Yeah.
Oh, I like where this is going. Yeah. I'm hungry
now. A little barbecue marathon. Let's do it.
So we kind of just touched on it. But so like
what advice do we have to people who are wanting
to buy but they're scared? How do we get people
out there maybe to call their realtor that they
know and say, hey. I want to pull the trigger,
but I'm scared to do it. Like somebody who doesn't
have a house currently or somebody who has a
house and they're wanting to upgrade? Because
that's a little bit of a different conversation.
I say someone that's locked in rent right now.
Rental rates have gone up across the country,
too. First -time homebuyers are way down, right?
So how do we get the younger millennial generation?
I'm on the very beginning of it. That millennial
generation to become first -time homebuyers.
Yeah, how do you get them out of the basement
of their parents' house? Be nice. Be nice. It
starts with number one, the sooner you buy a
house, the better. The time aspect is part of
everything we do in life, not just real estate,
but it's extremely important in real estate,
in my opinion, because you just can't get any
of that time back. Going and buying a house is
the number one thing. There's all kinds of studies
out there. Somebody's net worth who... has been
a homeowner the majority of your life is you
know multiple six figures where a renter's net
worth is usually like 20 grand or something like
that i can't remember all the studies but you
see that and that's based on the equity of their
home you know it really is so um number one if
you if you have the any ambition of having a
network it's real estate's the quickest easiest
most encouraged way um you know If you're a younger
buyer, you can sell it every two years and get
tax -free capital gains, all that type of stuff,
right? So if you could get in your mind, I'm
going to pay what it costs to get a house because
I know it's the right decision for me and my
potential family in the future if I'm already
a startup family. Interest rates, it's a couple
hundred bucks a month more than maybe what you
want, but you're going to look back and be like,
what was a couple hundred bucks if it was almost
irrelevant? um i'm old enough my first house
i back in the 80 20 days you know that was a
big deal get an 80 first 20 second and uh get
the seller to pick up five green and closing
costs that's how i got my first house and so
i think my first mortgage was 6 .875 my second
was almost nine and it was irrelevant i sold
it in two years Made about $75 ,000, parlayed
it into the next one. That's what I'm saying.
It gets you in the game. People are so scared
to get in the game. But once you're in the game
and you figure out, okay. You have to make a
sacrifice here or there, cancel a Netflix account
or back off on the cable or something to be able
to afford that couple hundred a month. But two
years down the road, you are going to be thanking
yourself. Absolutely. Because you're going to
see, like you said, your equity, how much the
house is worth now compared to what it was when
you bought it. If you wanted to sell, you could
sell and move to something else and make a little
money for a down payment on a nicer house. The
first one's never usually your dream home. That's
your starter. getting you in the game it's almost
like buying stock and you know the first couple
years of playing with the stock market is boring
right but then all of a sudden you start seeing
things tick tick tick after you've been dumping
money until you're like okay okay i got something
here it's the same thing with buying a house
the same thing with buying a house except for
you gotta live somewhere in mom and dad's basement
is not the coolest place to be typically and
putting putting money in somebody else's pocket
by paying rent every month is so so what's i
don't I don't know what the interest rate is.
Do you guys know what the interest rate is for
how much of that do you get back? When you pay
your rent, do you get anything back? No. That's
100 % interest. You're going to be paying to
live somewhere. You're going to be paying to
live somewhere. You have no tax shelter of any
kind when you rent. You know, if you make improvements
to your house, you know, there's some tax strategies
that you can do to improve your cash flow to
help cover up that interest is because the U
.S. government says, hey, we want to encourage
homeownership and we're going to offer some tax
incentives to do so. So if you're strategic about
it, you can kind of fight back. But, you know,
100 percent interest when you're renting sounds.
way more expensive than a 7 .5 % house on a $300
,000 house. And the payments really aren't that
different. So, you know, if you rent a three
-bed, two -bed house, you know, like 1965 ranch,
I haven't owned a bunch of those. I rent those
for between $1 ,500 and $1 ,750. And you go buy
that. If I go buy it, sell that house, it's like
a $275 -ish type house. And your payment's about...
$1 ,900 with a 7 .5 % interest rate. He's not
wrong. I hope the people listening get it. I
hope so. What's crazy is one of the biggest problems,
this is a weird tangent on the subject, but one
of the biggest problems that is facing the market
right now is the low inventory. People not wanting
to sell. you know being more mortgage handcuffed
what you said earlier but then also i look around
like where we live right this this was always
like the town area we live in was always predominantly
a single family resident not many businesses
like uh what are they there's a term that bedroom
community bedroom community there it is and now
all of a sudden the past year any most the new
building in the area there's been what three
new apartment complexes getting built Three new
apartment complexes. There's three new townhouse
developments as well. Row house developments.
We've got a million of those. Okay, so if you're
a contractor, if you're a builder, what's going
to get you the most money and bang for your buck?
When people need places to live, you're going
to build apartment complexes because you can
stack so many more people and so many more units.
It's not a small space to do in a suburban development,
like a single family neighborhood. There's a
little bit of that going on. That's true. You're
talking about density. When you put more things
under one roof, you have less cost per square
foot. That's all facts. Another thing that has
to be mentioned when you're talking inventory
is all the institutional buyers who have entered
the market, they've slowed down their buying
as rates have gone up. They've maybe lost some
investments. They pretty much consumed every
property that they could get, at least in our
area, I'm sure, and North Carolina as well, sub
$200 ,000 if they could get their hands on. And
when Mike buys his first house, that's a $200
,000 house, in three to five years, he's going
to be selling that house and going and moving
up. Well, that first -time homebuyer house has
essentially been removed from the market forever.
Okay? So, Mike, when he's going to sell his first
-time house in three years, the institutional
buyer comes and buys it, and it's essentially
going to be a rental in perpetuity until that
asset manager says. So, the cost to reproduce
a three -bed, two -bed split, if you're going
to buy one of those, is now $400 ,000, as we
discussed. So, there's that gap that we're talking
about. We're not replacing the inventory that
was consumed by the institutional buyer. Does
that make sense? Yep. So that puts pressure on
the inventory piece. The inventory is out there
and there's lots to be built on, but you better
be prepared to spend north of $500 ,000 in our
market, which, you know, our market, let's consider
last year when I achieved luxury status with
Keller Williams. You got your baller logo. Yeah,
exactly. I've got the magazine I should bring
in here for you. But that luxury status is like
$750 ,000 is what it was set at two years ago
when we earned that recognition, right? So, I
mean, realistically, that's just a nice 2 ,500
square foot, two -story, three -car garage house
now where $750 ,000 used to get you. A little
more bang for your buck, right? Quite a bit of
bang for your buck in our market. For your market,
where did Jumbo start? They just raised it. It
used to be $615 ,000. What did they raise it
to? $7 .25, I think. It's in the sevens. Yeah.
But yeah, the Jumbo market is... To be honest
with you, you get better rates there right now
anyway. I want to encourage people to be buying
in the jumbo market. Let's say like, you know,
you talk about people, people just need to be
a little more aggressive when I think anyways,
when they're looking around in the market and
they want to get into a home and have like a
great short story of that is one of my wife's
friends, they live a little bit further out,
a little more land and they want to move back
into a little more like almost, you know. quote
unquote city kind of suburban area, right? Yeah.
So this lady, she's super, somewhat aggressive.
She's driving through a neighborhood, sees a
house that she likes. She wrote the address down,
went home and wrote that person a letter and
said, I'm Lee. I want to move out of my house
by this time in 2024. Will you sell me your house?
Oh, wow. And the lady said, yes. You don't ask.
Is that's exactly what she says. She goes. You
don't know unless you ask. And I'm like, you
have some stones on you. And I applaud you because
you drive by a million houses. You'd be like,
wow, I'd love to live there. But they're never
going to sell. Well, you got to ask them. That's
a unicorn story. 100%. It's a big unicorn. However,
but you know what? It just made my head explode
because, you know, people talk about the inventory.
And yeah, while you're talking about builders
picking up. properties are um you know the reits
picking up investment properties and trying to
they own mike we had an episode about that with
a private money and the non -qm way back in like
season one i think it was a value name they really
the institutional buyers have really really really
slowed down i mean almost in the kansas city
market um in the st louis market it's a it's
maybe maybe 1 % to 2 % of the market, whereas
probably almost 40 % of the market at one point.
Yeah. And that's what we found. Like when things
were really humming along, like right after COVID
and these guys were scooping up properties left
and right, you know, when you compare those larger
REITs and institutions versus like the private
money, so to speak, investors like yourself,
you know, those institutions own something like
55 to 65 % of across the country. You know, they're
just gobbling them up left and right. It's kind
of scary when you say it out loud. Yeah, it's
real scary. Because you know they're not going
to go. They're going to sit up. You've got to
take the power back. The people have got to buy
the houses, and that's who we're talking to.
So be more aggressive and get out there and buy
that first house. I promise you, in a couple
of years, you're not going to regret it. Thank
you so much for encouraging me to do this. I
got an extra 50, 60 G's I wasn't counting on.
It's going to happen. Fake schwo. Schwo knows.
Schwo knows. We thought about putting that on
a t -shirt. As you're talking about inventory,
that was kind of interesting. You know, the short
-term rental business, there's a lot of municipalities
who are kind of ixnaying that. And a lot of these
people paid, you know, for houses in a competitive
market with, you know, pro formas that... we're
short -term rental, not long -term rental based.
We're short -term rental, obviously you make
a lot more money on a monthly basis than you
do a long -term rental. So I can see a lot of
those STRs where communities are banning them
or requiring licensure and the only people who
can get licensed are grandfathered in from being
there already. So that might be an opportunity
for somebody who's driving around to find out
where STRs are. call those owners directly and
be like, hey, I saw Kansas City took out the,
you got to have this, this, and this. And if
you don't have it, I really like the house. I
think it's great. And you can even go rent it
for a week and see if you like it, I guess. I'll
buy an Airbnb the second you get the news and
see what's listed in that town. And those are
going to be opportunities to buy houses. We got
to be creative in today's market. I just gave
myself a listing idea of how to go find listings.
we're just helping you now hey look this you're
not wrong though because like we do a lot of
str appraisal a lot for a number of like non
-qm private money obviously and there's been
a lot more of those hurdles if you will over
the last i don't know six plus months coming
from municipalities saying hey we only have x
amount of licenses this dude's coming from somewhere
else he doesn't have a license can't do it um
Or they're just, you know, cutting them out altogether.
They have to be an LLC. All of it. Like, there's
a whole list of them. The SCR game is a little
bit of the wild, wild west, right? A thousand
percent. It's not a little bit. It's a thousand
percent. I don't know how they're underwriting
it. It really is. But there's a lot of others
who won't touch it. And the people who, but from
a... People who own them standpoint, I think
a lot of people got into it just because there
was so many TikToks about owning SDRs and they
don't even know what they're doing. So many TikToks.
That would have been the push. I watch TikToks
like an adult. Two weeks later on reels. But
yeah, it's just been like how to become, how
to make 5 ,000 a month. This is how I made 10
,000. I bought this property. I bought this property.
I did this. I did that. Everybody's like, oh,
it's easy. And it's like, no, it's not. It's
not that easy. So, you know, when you're coming
to, when you're talking to a client about selling
their house, you know, are you providing any
like tips or tricks for them to make it, you
know, more attractive to get someone, you know,
off the fence, so to speak? Oh, absolutely. You'd
be amazed at what some new carpet and a fresh
coat of paint can do to how the market receives
your property. Right. So we to me, everybody
has their own appetite for what they're willing
to do or not do. But a lot of people out there,
a lot of realtors like such as myself, and I
know hundreds of thousands probably have the
same type of scenario where I have relationships
with different vendors. and we can go ahead and
get you know a paint job done and carpet put
in and then um you just sign a contract with
the contractor and all of a sudden when your
house closes and when you pay them usually the
biggest hurdle uh is is you know if it's it's
gonna take 10 or 15 grand to get the house where
it's at but that's going to create you know 30
to 50 grand more in sales price it's like yeah
i want to do that but i just don't have a 15
grand you can You got equity in your home more
than likely in today's environment. And we just
have the relationships we've built over time
that allow us to kind of cover that hurdle with
a zero percent interest type deal. That's awesome.
That is a very smart move. yeah business -wise
to make those kind of connections that was one
of those moments where you should be writing
this down because yeah 100 that is excellent
advice right there because i will write that
down if you're afraid to sell i think you're
not going to get enough because like a railing
is all worn and messed up or like something's
wrong with oh i don't call in about 10 minutes
you will so get the work done before the house
hits the market and You know a good realtor like
Mr. Priest over here. Well, I think if you're
considering selling your house and you know you
got a few, like, okay, I raised a couple of young
boys and two dogs, gone through two dogs, I need
to make these updates. That's a good question
to ask your realtor when you're interviewing,
trying to decide who you're going to work with.
Ask them those types of questions. And then there's
other times where I'll just say, hey, listen,
I'm not willing to. recommend you spend a dollar
if i can't get you at least two bucks back right
and so uh i think you can sometimes be a little
more strategic price it a little lower than maybe
what the market is and you almost create an auction
effect if there's just more to be done than you
know just your quick fresh up right so i want
to i want to buy a house with you now let's do
it you feel so uncomfortable um are you ready
for some rapid rush requests is it some rapid
what Oh, he's nervous. Look at his face. Yeah.
Rapid rush request. Okay. Okay. All right, baby.
Rapid rush requests. We need this appraisal back
yesterday. It's a rapid rush, man. We need this
thing now. All right, man. So I already know
the answer to this question and it's going to
make Charlie very happy. But we ask everybody,
is it an Android or is it an iPhone? Much to
the chagrin of my wife and kids, I'm Android
strong. Team Green Dot. Nathan, it's a pleasure
to meet you. You're the ruiner of group texts.
I'm ruining group texts across the world. I know.
Listen, that is our cross the barrier now. I
almost just like to do it on purpose. Yeah, yeah.
I love it. So, pretty salty golfer here on the
podcast. I'm pretty salty out there. Lefty, too.
He swings from the wrong side. Hey, this guy,
too. We're kindred spirits, man. We are. This
is awesome. Put together your dream golf foursome
for me. They could be alive or dead. So you and
three others, what is your dream golf? Ooh, that's
a deep one there. I like to have fun on the golf
course. And this is just off the hip, so I can't
say this is what it would be for sure. But I
got to start with my boy, Ethan. Oh, bringing
E -Money out there. Yeah, yeah, we have too much
fun. And then... Just because I think it'd be
really fun to watch everything. I would probably
go with Schwo, another guy on the podcast here,
and John Daly. John Daly. Round it out with John
Daly. Three of us and John Daly. Oh, just watching
you and John Daly go back and forth would be
worth it. You guys would be crawling off the
course. You wouldn't make it through. We'll be
all right. See some veterans. Ethan's got his
driver's permit now, so we're good. He's got
to be able to get home. Responsible. We'll be
responsible. He can't take us all home. Yeah,
it was probably, you know, everybody's expecting
a little tiger or jack or something, but no,
I like to have fun out there, man. So you played
college baseball, correct? I did. I did. And
you, if I remember correctly from some stories,
you played against one Albert Woltz. I did. So
going through high school, We played against
each other. Okay, it was in high school. Yeah,
he went to Fort Osage. And I was in Raytown.
And so we played each other twice during the
school year. And then we had Legion Ball. And
we were in the same division as we were post
-71 and they were post -21. So I played against
him probably 20, 25 times. Don't you have an
Albert Pujols story? I got a few good ones. The
first time I ever faced him, we'll just do this
one, I thought I was really good, right? Lefty,
I had a little bit of heat, not much, a little
bit of heat, but I thought I was good. We had
heard Poodles is amazing, whatever, but I hadn't
faced him. He was the third batter. I had gotten
the first two guys out, and then he comes up,
and my catcher, good friend of mine, he was the
best man at my wedding, whatever. He wants me
to throw a curveball. I'm like, nah, man. I'm
throwing an inside fastball. So I pump a fastball
in, and he hits the ball so hard, it never gets
above my head, and I'm short, and it slams into
the fence fast. And before it hits and is rolling
back, and before it hits, I turn around, and
my catcher, his name is Jeff, he's on me, he's
like. we are never throwing him a fastball again.
I created a knuckleball just to try and throw
something at him that he hadn't seen, but he
was a man amongst boys for sure. I always thought
he would end up being great, but who knew he
would go down as one of the best hitters ever.
In my mind, he's one of the best hitters ever.
Longevity. So have you heard the rumors that
people are almost convinced that they faked his
birth certificate and that when he was in high
school, he probably graduated high school instead
of at 18 years old, maybe like 22 years old or
23 years old? Yeah. For real? That's the story?
It's not real, what you're saying. So where I
ended up graduating from, my roommate for a while.
was a center fielder for the team he grew up,
you know, at Florida Sage and post -21. And,
yeah, I think they've done a really good job
of keeping that tight. I can't prove or deny,
but there was a drunken night conversation. I
was like, there's no way. Exactly. Which, if
you go to the end of his career, last season,
he went on that hot streak. To get over 700 home
runs. Amazing. He's 43 years old right now. So
according to records. So if he was really 46,
47, that makes it. That's an even better story.
Yeah, exactly. Makes it that much more impressive
that he was that age and still cranking out homers
there at the end. That's one. Yeah. Now Pujols
was an absolute stud. All right. So this is a
tough one. I've never asked this, but you have
to eliminate one and you cannot have it again.
Okay. Pizza, cheeseburgers, or tacos. Probably.
I can't do it. I guess I don't like your question.
That's a tough one, isn't it? I guess tacos,
but then I guess eliminate tacos, but I don't
like those because burgers are so convenient,
right? They got the grab and go at the course
as you're making the turn. I guess tacos for
that absolutely silly question. We're going to
keep that one, dude. That's a good one. That's
a good one. I like your rationale on it. Yep.
Thank you, Nate. Unless you got any one last
message to the people, we appreciate you coming
on, man. It's been good. Don't live your life
in fear. Go out and do what's right in your heart.
That's it. Amen. Charlie, it's absolutely my
pleasure to meet you, man. I hope you do make
it up to KC. We'll try some barbecue and all
the other fun activities Mike has planned. Oh,
yeah. I know he's got it. He'll have a good list.
Yes. We'll have a good, we'll have a good time
for sure. I'll get, I'll get down there. All
right. Well, you guys go out and crush it the
rest of the day. Okay. Thanks man. You too. You
do the same brother. Oh man. That was a good,
that was a great guest. Good episode. Bringing
it. Senior Nathan priest. It's like a, you know,
what did ice cube say? It must be a saying, but
must be a hit when Nate dog singing on it. There
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