1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:18,000 You're listening to Only the Best Herbs. 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:26,840 I'm back and welcome back to Only the Best Herbs, the podcast where we dive deep into 3 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:33,080 the world of natural healing, wellness, and the power of plants. 4 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:39,040 I'm your host and let me tell you it feels incredible to be back here with you all for 5 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,120 the start of season 3. 6 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,680 If you don't know who I am by now, my name is Ryan Boulda. 7 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:54,240 Feels like I'm returning home after a long journey finding everything just as warm and 8 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,960 welcoming as I remembered. 9 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:05,280 This season we're reigniting our passion for herbal wisdom, sharing stories that comfort 10 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,200 the soul, exploring remedies that nurture the body. 11 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:19,000 It's a journey we are thrilled to embark on once again with you, our cherished listeners, 12 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,120 right by our side. 13 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,120 What a way to kick off the season. 14 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Today we have a very extraordinary opportunity. 15 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,960 We're going to talk with Lori Smallwood. 16 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:38,080 She's an inspiration for those in the realms of business and wellness. 17 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Lori coaches business owners, has developed a line of her own health and wellness products 18 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,920 that encompass natural healing and empowerment. 19 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:56,000 So grab your favorite herbal tea, settle in, and let's embark on this season's journey 20 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:03,960 together, exploring the profound connections between nature, wellness, and our daily lives. 21 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Welcome to season 3 of Only the Best Herbs. 22 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Namaste, my friend. 23 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Namaste. 24 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Where am I talking to you from? 25 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Where are you at? 26 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,160 We are in Indiana. 27 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,160 What about you? 28 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,160 We're close. 29 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,160 We're close. 30 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,160 I'm in Michigan. 31 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Oh, wonderful. 32 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,160 Wonderful. 33 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:31,680 Yes, we are still in the wonderful prohibition police state of Indiana, wishing to join our 34 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,840 three brethren outside of here shortly. 35 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,840 Shortly. 36 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Yeah. 37 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,840 Yeah. 38 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:45,120 You know, first I want to apologize. 39 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:54,560 My wife is visually impaired, and when Facebook did their great reset, it changed up a bunch 40 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,840 of different stuff. 41 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,960 So she was just used to going down a group and sharing our stuff out. 42 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:09,120 And we actually shared to you by accident, I believe. 43 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,680 I think it's a happy accident. 44 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:17,000 I thought, well, I could just shoot him a message and say, sorry, man, you know, accident 45 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000 won't happen again. 46 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,080 I thought, no, man, I want to talk to Ryan. 47 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,080 I know. 48 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,080 I've seen you before. 49 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,760 I've seen you on Facebook before. 50 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,360 Pretty much just, you know, I've seen your name. 51 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,360 You do lives. 52 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,680 Obviously, you do lives. 53 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,120 We do two lives a week. 54 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:42,560 One on the NLK Network in Canada, which is a network of knowledge. 55 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:50,680 And then we also are partnered up with GrowFam, or GrowFam Homestead. 56 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:58,360 It's primarily a growing channel teaching, you know, about nutrient uses and different 57 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,360 stuff. 58 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,560 We're kind of the odd show out. 59 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:09,920 You got some confidence going in coming in from Indiana. 60 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,120 But like you said, you guys are far behind. 61 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,720 No, no. 62 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,680 We're going to be supporting some local stuff on 420. 63 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:26,480 We thought about going to Illinois or Missouri and, you know, hitting one of these big festivals 64 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,120 and partying it up. 65 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:35,880 And thought, no, not this year, we've got a good friend that's really a grassroots activist. 66 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,880 And we want to be there to support him for this 420. 67 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,880 That's awesome. 68 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,880 That's awesome. 69 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,000 We got Hash Bash in Ann Arbor. 70 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,480 So that's always ready to work. 71 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,560 I have heard about that. 72 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,920 We have a lot of friends up in Michigan. 73 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,560 And they've invited us up to, you know, smaller festivals besides the Ant. 74 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,320 Yeah, the Ant Arbor Hash Bash. 75 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:06,440 But to other smaller festivals, we just haven't been able to get up north yet. 76 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,000 But mostly in Indiana, Illinois, Missouri. 77 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,200 And I think we're supposed to get out to Oklahoma this year. 78 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:22,240 But we've had invites to Florida, Virginia, Maine, yeah, this year, Ohio. 79 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,040 So, yeah, we just love getting out and meeting everybody. 80 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,720 It's cool and it's, do you have a business, by the way? 81 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,800 Yes, we do. 82 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:37,000 In fact, this whole thing started just to support the, you know, to support the business 83 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,360 and get our name out there. 84 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,400 And it's, it's taken on the whole energy of its own. 85 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:51,680 So yes, we have Master Roche's Garden and we are a LLC third party tested hemp derivative 86 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,680 company. 87 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:59,680 Our special, our specialty is our 1500 milligram full spectrum CBD. 88 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:06,760 We have four varieties, one with just CBD and then one that we mix and CBN and just 89 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,440 a touch of Delta 8 for our nighttime blend. 90 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:18,440 We have our golden medley, which is CBD, a CBD isolate and CBG. 91 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,160 We have another one that's our CBD and Delta 8. 92 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:30,280 It's kind of for, not to mention get you high, but you go, you just stress and anxiety relief. 93 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:32,840 So we have that or muscle cream. 94 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:37,960 We have a simple syrup that you can use for, for sweetening. 95 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,680 And of course, our world famous beard oils. 96 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,680 I love the beard, man. 97 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,680 I love it. 98 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,280 Oh, thank you. 99 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:47,680 Thank you very much. 100 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,080 But yeah, those are, those are our products. 101 00:06:51,080 --> 00:07:00,160 Now, do you have your own product line or are you kind of, you know, do other people's 102 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,680 and sell that? 103 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,440 What, yeah, what's your story? 104 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,040 Man, so kind of similar. 105 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Like I would say it's like very, very, almost 100%. 106 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Maybe like 99% is similar to yours, you know, hemp derivatives company. 107 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,640 We started basically, you know, and it's hard for, it's a little hard for us because, you 108 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,760 know, we got dispensaries, right? 109 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Everyone's THC focused, you know? 110 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,960 So that's our, it's kind of been our issue a tad. 111 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,680 So we've had, you know, branch outside of Michigan a little bit and really make some 112 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,400 friends to make it happen. 113 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:51,720 And the show, like, like you said, was primarily to push the brand and meet some people, make 114 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:59,760 some relationships and, you know, but knowledge, you know, educating the public because I've 115 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:06,840 quickly found out that a lot of people only know about CBD and THC. 116 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Like that's it. 117 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:15,720 And what they know about both of them, if you've had the same experiences I have, it's 118 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,960 pretty much not true. 119 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:22,880 They have a lot of things confused and don't understand how they work separately, let alone 120 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:28,800 how they work together and why you should be taking CBD when you're on a THC regimen 121 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:34,000 and all of the other additional benefits from the cannabinoids. 122 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:43,800 And you are exactly right, education for us is, you know, is our business is education 123 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,800 to get people going. 124 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,000 Like literally. 125 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:56,160 You can't, I mean, and I'll be, I'll let you know right now, like what we do is we take 126 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:03,240 this podcast, we do, we mostly do audio only, for I would say for the most part. 127 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:09,080 However, we're starting to transition over to, you know, we're going to start doing 128 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,520 lives and stuff in the group. 129 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:18,200 So yeah, man, I would love to do a couple of things with you here and there. 130 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,720 I think it would be pretty cool. 131 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:27,680 I don't see, for me, I would say most people would think from a business perspective, you're 132 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:33,760 crazy for doing, you know, wanting to do like an interview with a fellow company, but I 133 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,360 don't see it that way. 134 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,560 No, no, I don't either. 135 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:42,640 I don't either because, you know, we're spreading, we're spreading the same message. 136 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:51,160 And as far as I'm concerned, I think everybody should be using CBD and cannabinoids in their 137 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,160 life. 138 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:58,640 I would love for them to buy from me, but you know what? 139 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,960 I want them to buy from, if they don't buy from me, brother, I want them buying from 140 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,960 you. 141 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:10,120 I want, you know, everybody to understand how beneficial this is. 142 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,760 And you know, I'm educating, you know, our show's not up there. 143 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:20,160 In fact, I'm a really wowsy salesman. 144 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,720 Our company like twice during the show, and I give more shout outs to the people that, 145 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:29,920 you know, send us shit that I do our own products. 146 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,360 But you know, it's educating the folks. 147 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,040 And you know, if I'm not in your area, my products aren't in your area, and you got 148 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,520 people right down the street from you, they should be buying from you. 149 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,520 Right. 150 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Well, see, that's another huge thing, though, for us. 151 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:58,000 And this is kind of how what I try to tell people, people who aren't trying to educate 152 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:08,240 and people who aren't trying to, I would say like advance where your state is at or wherever 153 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,240 you're located, if you're not trying to, you know, you don't believe it. 154 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,760 Honestly, if you're just trying to go, then you really, you know, go sell or whatever. 155 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:23,680 You don't believe in the product because that's what the, you know, cannabis is such a peaceful 156 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:27,520 and its history is so rich. 157 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:33,240 And it's so, it's so amazing how a lot of us and a lot of the states have gotten to this 158 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,440 point. 159 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,320 And I would say I've heard a lot of people say this. 160 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,640 Cannabis is taking some big steps federally. 161 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,480 So federally, and I think they're even doing the same with mushrooms too. 162 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Mushrooms is another big thing that has been being. 163 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,760 Mushrooms will be legal in Indiana before cannabis is. 164 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:56,760 Think so. 165 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,760 Oh yeah. 166 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,760 Yeah. 167 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,760 I 100%. 168 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Yes. 169 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:07,440 In fact, I look for mushroom legalization probably next year. 170 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:12,360 Cannabis legalization, I still think we're two or three years out. 171 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,560 Because of what the, what the feds decide. 172 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:16,560 Right. 173 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:23,400 The feds could federally de-schedule it tomorrow and it'll still take Indiana two years to 174 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,840 get their shit together on state regulations. 175 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:28,840 That's crazy. 176 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,800 Kind of sounds like a Texas thing. 177 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,000 It sounds very similar to Texas. 178 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Texas and Indiana, you might say are almost joined at the hip on this. 179 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,960 And they have the identity. 180 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:46,240 While Texas has medical, Indiana doesn't, we don't even have medical in Indiana. 181 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Really? 182 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:58,160 The only thing we have that makes Indiana a medical state is we have Marinal, the synthetic. 183 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:04,240 That's the only, I mean, we don't even have medical here. 184 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,240 That's terrible. 185 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,840 That's really, that's really unfortunate. 186 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,200 So I 100% support you, man. 187 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:18,360 If I plan on doing some traveling here soon, I would say by the end of the year, I'm trying 188 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,520 to go to some specific places. 189 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,480 So if I'm cutting through Indiana or anything, I have to say hello. 190 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,480 I can get a picture. 191 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:26,480 I have to. 192 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,480 Oh, certainly. 193 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,480 Yeah. 194 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:29,480 Yeah. 195 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,720 And if we get up to Michigan, we'll definitely, definitely hook up. 196 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:39,480 We have, so the name of our brand is CBD surgeons. 197 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:45,920 Unfortunately, marketing has been a huge issue because of having the word CBD in the name. 198 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,440 A lot of, a lot of platforms do not like that. 199 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,560 Google doesn't like it. 200 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:54,240 Like, nobody like, like nobody likes it. 201 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,560 So what we had to do is we just took this, we just took the CBD part off. 202 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:02,880 We said, well, now we're just, you know, we're two different things. 203 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:11,400 So here at, in Mount Clemens, which is about 15 minutes away from Detroit, we have our, 204 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,280 we have our store. 205 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:18,400 And then online is where we, you know, where we are surgeons. 206 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,840 So CBD surgeons has a, you know, has a page. 207 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,400 It's probably got like close to 800 followers. 208 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,920 I don't know, it's been maybe a year since we started it. 209 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:36,480 And then we have only the best herbs, which is why we were using it to try to, I'm like, 210 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,080 okay, we're going to make our own fucking platform. 211 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,440 You know, we're going to, we're going to, you know, so that's how, you know, that's 212 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,240 how it's kind of, that's how everything is birthed, but it has kind of taken on a mind 213 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,560 of its own a little bit right now. 214 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,120 And it's making, helping me meet fantastic, awesome people like you. 215 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Oh, thank you. 216 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,160 You know, I love, I love the name because I'm taking man. 217 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:04,600 You know, are, are they doing, you know, I didn't know if you were a company or you 218 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:10,400 were just doing reviews and only carrying the best products and, and stuff. 219 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,560 I thought, oh man, is he doing something like that? 220 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,520 I mean, that would be, I wish I would have thought of something like that. 221 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:22,960 We are, we are eventually, we want to get our own brand of, you know, because we manufacture 222 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,960 our own products in, in walled lake. 223 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Right. 224 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,960 So that, you know, before we kind of get into that, you know, trying to help people that 225 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:39,480 much, we want to get, you know, our own, you know, our own thing going, which is, which 226 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,280 is, it is, it's working out. 227 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,960 We're selling product across the United States. 228 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:51,320 I mean, I got orders from Oregon, Texas, Florida, Kentucky. 229 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,640 I mean, we got, we got, I mean, I know I'm forgetting a few, but it's pretty amazing 230 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,760 that it's happened. 231 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:00,760 You guys have a website? 232 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,600 You guys have a website where you can, because I love, you know, share it, share your website. 233 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,600 Yes. 234 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,840 I certainly, I certainly will share it. 235 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,840 I'll share it in messenger. 236 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:16,200 But yes, we have a, we have a full up website. 237 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:24,080 And we are, we're doing all kinds of stuff outside of, I talked about the Facebook and 238 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,080 the NLK network. 239 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:33,240 Now we're going to be doing, I think a third show on Saturdays for WTHC radio, which is, 240 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,240 which is kind of cool. 241 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:43,040 So yeah, we're, I mean, we're all about promoting full plant medicine, peace, love, good vibes 242 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:48,520 or more, you know, that more brings us together than divides us. 243 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,920 And we try to, try to present, you know, real life. 244 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Well, my daughter was my co-host for quite a while and she moved on and now it's my 245 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,120 wife. 246 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,640 But you know, we try to engage and relate to real life people. 247 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,000 It's not about us. 248 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,720 You know, it's about us together, our struggles, how we're overcoming it, how we are celebrating, 249 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,600 how we're dealing with failure with loss. 250 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,560 We're right there with you. 251 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,440 And you know, you're living this with us. 252 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,600 So that's kind of our, kind of our vibe. 253 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:23,600 I love it, man. 254 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,800 And I trust me, it starts out, I think when you start doing things, you know, at a family 255 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,600 level, because you know, we're doing that pretty much as well, is that, you know, as 256 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:39,320 a family business, we have a couple, we have a couple of good relationships. 257 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,240 We were doing radio stuff with, oh man, what's his name? 258 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:49,080 This is edited in, but his name is Ron Cameron. 259 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,680 Rest in peace, Ron Cameron. 260 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,760 He just passed away. 261 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Fantastic individual. 262 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Sports Talk Radio. 263 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,320 Probably heard his voice. 264 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,720 You know his voice. 265 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,000 He was battling with some issues and some pain. 266 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,440 He was going into surgery. 267 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,400 It was, it was his whole thing. 268 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:12,040 And so I want to give a shout outs to Ron Cameron for being such a big part of history. 269 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Look him up. 270 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,040 But he was, he just died. 271 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,880 And it was just really sad. 272 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,840 He does, he's doing Sports Talk Radio. 273 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,080 He'd been doing it for a really long time. 274 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,960 Man, I really, I, during this interview, I'll think of it. 275 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,320 But he's, he was really cool to do that stuff with. 276 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:39,760 Well, yeah, you know, we're doing a bit of helping support the marijuana maintenance program. 277 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:47,720 It's a 12 step program that helps people transition from opioids and alcohol, off of opioids and 278 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,920 alcohol by growing their own medicine. 279 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:56,920 Because a lot of times this plants the first thing, first time these folks have ever had 280 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,920 to take care of anything besides themselves. 281 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:05,920 Yeah, anyway, the guy that we partnered up with her collaborating with runs a clothing 282 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,960 shop out of South Beach, Florida. 283 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,440 And he does a lot of MMA fighters. 284 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:19,560 And we're finding out what this huge connection between the sports world and cannabis has 285 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,560 been. 286 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:28,000 And that is, that is one thing that has not been explored as far as I can see in the cannabis 287 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:34,480 community is the sports cannabis connection. 288 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,080 And it's huge, especially for recovery and many other things. 289 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:45,440 You know, a lot of the proteins have removed cannabis from the band substance list. 290 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,720 They put your body, it accelerates your body. 291 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,480 You know, you're activating those receptors, you're healing faster, you know, you know, 292 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,520 the pain management, of course, with the topical. 293 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,320 I know there's, I think the MLB was, I think, I can't remember the name, but I think the 294 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,920 MLB was the first. 295 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:08,600 And this was just recently, the, they were the first one to introduce CBD and hemp products 296 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:15,840 to their players and to the medical recovery process and whatnot. 297 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:24,400 Actually, this is the first year every MLB field will have a cannabis leaf in the, in 298 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,800 the outfield because a CBD company has contracted with them. 299 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,960 So there will be a cannabis leaf in all stadiums this year. 300 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,440 I did not hear that. 301 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,560 That's really cool. 302 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,280 I just heard that a couple of days ago. 303 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,240 I can't tell you which company it was that did this. 304 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:51,920 But man, I want to know about you specifically and how you got to where you're at. 305 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:57,240 And I know you mentioned your daughter and your wife, but I want to know about you. 306 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:04,320 I have been a cannabis advocate, hemp and cannabis advocate, not just cannabis, but 307 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,040 hemp also since the 80s. 308 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:14,600 I was one of these guys that was handed out the, I think they were blue and gray or gray 309 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:23,280 and green trifold normal pamphlets out in the late 80s to people passing by on the street 310 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,000 saying, hemp can save the world. 311 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Check out a cannabis as an alternative. 312 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,080 40 years. 313 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,080 Yeah. 314 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Holy shit. 315 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:38,600 It doesn't seem like that long, honestly. 316 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,680 And then I grew up in a rural community. 317 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,120 I didn't have very many friends. 318 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:50,800 I spent a lot of times in the woods and the farm or the fields and kind of the meadows 319 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,800 and stuff. 320 00:21:51,800 --> 00:22:05,600 And it got real interested in Native American medicine and edible plants and all. 321 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:12,120 And I started exploring that and I became an herbalist as a pastime because friends 322 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:13,480 and family always told me, 323 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,200 you're never going to make a living being an herbalist. 324 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,200 You know, no, get your head out of the clouds, get your feet on the ground. 325 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,680 So I just basically did stuff for friends and family and for ourselves. 326 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,960 Well when the cannabinoids started hitting the market and CBD started really gaining 327 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:36,720 some traction, it's like my ears perked up and it's like, what is this? 328 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,720 Right. 329 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:44,160 And I started getting in there and my mind started working and going, oh my God, if we 330 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:50,760 could partner, you know, these cannibal cannabinoids with these natural remedies that we already 331 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:57,160 know these herbs and plants and flowers that we know have potential and we mix them with 332 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,080 cannabinoids, we could do some amazing stuff. 333 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:06,800 So that's where we're, that's where we kind of got started. 334 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,400 The whole idea of Masher Ochi's garden was going to be more of a craft, cannabis grow, 335 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:22,200 more connoisseur, well-aged, you know, top quality, small market cannabis. 336 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,120 And then the realization hit us, we're in Indiana and I probably won't live to see the 337 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:31,840 day that that's even a possibility. 338 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:37,120 So started to explore in the CBD market and that's kind of where we landed. 339 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:38,120 Awesome. 340 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:46,160 I have to ask you because I don't know if a lot of people are like familiar, but the 341 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,120 Masher Ochi, that's from Dragon Ball Z, right? 342 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,480 Yes and no. 343 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,360 Yes and no. 344 00:23:54,360 --> 00:24:05,840 I worked with a, my day job, I worked with a lot of younger guys in their 20s and 30s. 345 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,840 I call them the kids, but to me they're kids. 346 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Well they started talking about Masher Ochi and kind of referring to me as Masher Ochi. 347 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,280 It's like, what in the hell is this? 348 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:26,200 So I started looking it up and yes, with my sunglasses and my beard and I wear the Hawaiian 349 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,320 shirts all summer long, sandals, so yeah, they got me. 350 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,040 We look very much alike. 351 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,440 Because like I said, I didn't know who and how they were talking about. 352 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,760 The more I checked up on this guy, it's like, yeah, all right, he's kind of cool. 353 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:46,400 I can deal with this, but we were sitting around the fire one night over at the house 354 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,400 just kicking back. 355 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:53,680 But you guys, it's got to be Master Ochi. 356 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,480 And that's kind of how it all came together. 357 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:03,520 My wife made me buy the damn hat that I wear. 358 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,880 I didn't want it. 359 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,840 It sat in the house for many years. 360 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,320 I didn't wear it. 361 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,840 We were trying to figure out something to do with the label. 362 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:21,960 I want to take a picture of you with the hat on and kind of get it in a 70s style or 60s 363 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,960 style cartoon. 364 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:34,280 But yeah, we were in a little artesian community called Nashville, Indiana. 365 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,160 And it's a very cool artist community. 366 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,880 This was the second leather shop that we had been at since we arrived, like 45 minutes. 367 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,880 It's all we've been in town and she'd already acquired two new leather purses. 368 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,200 So I think she was feeling a little guilty. 369 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,840 So I put this on and the shop just screwed around and she said, oh my God, you got to 370 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,840 get it. 371 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,840 No, you got to get it. 372 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,000 I looked at the price. 373 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,320 I said, like hell, I'm buying this hat. 374 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,320 I like it. 375 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,720 You can see, you can see, I won the argument. 376 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,240 Well, definitely you did. 377 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,440 That's correct. 378 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,440 Awesome. 379 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,880 That's where the hat came from. 380 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,120 And it's part of my artificial hair here. 381 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:23,520 Trust me, I'm there with you, man. 382 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,800 I understand. 383 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,080 I'm only 30 years old and that's just, ugh. 384 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:41,440 I was looking around for, you know, that's probably pretty close to when I started shaving 385 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,440 my head. 386 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,440 Oh, right. 387 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,960 About, yeah, about the only two people that were running around with shaved heads at the 388 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,640 time it seemed like was Michael Jordan and myself. 389 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,760 That's funny. 390 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,760 Funny thing about ending up with a shaved head. 391 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:09,360 I was working for a pretty big company in a finance role. 392 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,400 And I got a substantial promotion. 393 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:20,600 At that time I had a ponytail halfway down my back and trying to be professional and 394 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,600 all. 395 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,240 It's like, I got to cut my hair. 396 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,440 Nobody asked me to. 397 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,040 It was just the right thing to do at that time. 398 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,280 You know. 399 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,600 You know. 400 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,840 Yeah. 401 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,240 So I went with a hair helmet. 402 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,720 I couldn't do it. 403 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,120 I had that haircut for two weeks. 404 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,040 It's like, I can't do this. 405 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,720 It looks ridiculous. 406 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,160 And I shaved my head and I've been that way ever since. 407 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,600 And then you turned in the master Ochi. 408 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,280 I love it. 409 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,120 Obviously you're getting out there mirror making some connections and you're getting your name 410 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:00,000 and your brand out there. 411 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000 What's next, man? 412 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,800 I want it like, what do you see happening? 413 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,800 What did you know? 414 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,360 What are some of your goals with this? 415 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:08,960 Even if they're small goals, obviously you said you might not. 416 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:15,360 I think you will live to see the day, but for Indiana, but I want to, I'm, what's your 417 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,360 main focus? 418 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:22,400 Well, right now, you know, it's, it's, it's when I say this, it's going to be your main 419 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,880 focus too, because, you know, we think of like distribution. 420 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:33,040 How do I get our product and in front of more people instead of online? 421 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:39,240 Where, you know, where can I get into those, you know, brick and mortar dispensaries or 422 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,240 head shops? 423 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640 And are we really a good fit? 424 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:49,480 It's hard to find a avenue for our products right now because we really aren't head shop 425 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,480 products. 426 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:58,040 We're not recreational products, but we're looked down upon, you know, in the, a lot of 427 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:03,520 the, the health food and supplement areas too. 428 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,560 Well, you know, you're really guys, you're really not supplements. 429 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,840 We don't know what you are. 430 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:16,520 So it's finding a retail avenue that suits our products. 431 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,320 That's what I'm exploring right now is where do we fit in? 432 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:27,120 You know, are we a CVS of Walgreens? 433 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:32,760 You know, is that where CBD is going to end up in the future or in the grocery store? 434 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:41,040 You know, where, where are our products going to be able to reach our audience in the future? 435 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,520 Dispensaries in here, at least in Michigan, hate us. 436 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:51,880 Head shops that, you know, because the dispensaries, you know, like they, they clearly, they're 437 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,240 all about getting high, right? 438 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,720 You're going there, you're getting T and C, right? 439 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,280 Like you said, I believe it's its own, it's its own thing, I think in my opinion. 440 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,600 I think it very well. 441 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,640 We know, we know some pharmacies that carry a topicals, at least for right now. 442 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480 And I think you're exactly right. 443 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,240 I want to talk, I want to definitely want to talk more because we're running out of 444 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,720 time a little bit here. 445 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,320 I want to, I'm going to set, I'm going to set something up for another, for another 446 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,000 chat with you here in the future when you, when you got some time and I know I have listeners, 447 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,520 I know I have some listeners in Indiana. 448 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,240 I know I have listeners who are close to you, even neighboring states. 449 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:36,320 So it would be really beneficial, I think, for them to reach out to you. 450 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,400 And because I've noticed a lot of people, you know, they're going to the, they're going 451 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,800 to these head shops and stuff and they're getting the Chinese bullshit. 452 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,120 And that's the problem. 453 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:53,120 You know, that's one thing that I said and I absolutely refused when we started to go 454 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,040 into gas stations. 455 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,400 Absolutely, absolutely refused. 456 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,280 And I have stood our ground. 457 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,680 I know we've lost a lot of sales. 458 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:09,840 We could have had products in there, but you know, there's nothing, yeah, there's nothing 459 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,840 worse to be compared to the gas station CBD. 460 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:23,040 And brother, we, we have to, if we can't find, we are going to have to build, you know, 461 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,960 our, our own community and outreach for, for CBD. 462 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,800 And you know, maybe we can grow a whole community that's dedicated to natural plant therapy 463 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,960 and, and healing. 464 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:43,360 We can get a company out there that's, that's all they do is natural soaps, hair care, CBD, 465 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,960 hemp, you know, products, cannabis products. 466 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,960 It'd be wonderful. 467 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,680 That is the main goal. 468 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,960 I'm gonna, that's where this is probably where I'm gonna cut it off, at least on the 469 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,160 podcast part of it. 470 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520 And then I'll put my little ending in there. 471 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,840 But like I said, I really enjoy talking to you. 472 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,200 I, you know, I believe in what you're doing and not my stay, right? 473 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Almost a yes. 474 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,240 We'll figure out something here in the future. 475 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,240 Cool, cool. 476 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,960 Sounds good, my friend Ryan, have a beautiful day. 477 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,080 Peace, love and good vibes, my man. 478 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,560 And look forward to talking to you again. 479 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,560 For sure. 480 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,560 Have a good rest of your day, man. 481 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,560 I look forward to it as well. 482 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,440 Oh, thank you. 483 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,720 Feel free to reach out to us with your experience questions or even just to say hello. 484 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,280 Until next time, take care of yourself and one another. 485 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Embrace the power of nature. 486 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,440 Stay curious, stay inspired and most importantly, stay connected. 487 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,440 It's been a pleasure to be part of your day today. 488 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:53,440 If you think you have what it takes to be only the best, reach out to us. 489 00:32:53,440 --> 00:33:03,440 SurgeonSolutions.org.