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You're listening to Only the Best Herbs.

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Welcome to Only the Best Herbs, a podcast where the ancient wisdom of herbal healing

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meets the groundbreaking discoveries of now, 2024.

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My name is Ryan Boda, and today we're weaving a story of nature's power in our modern world.

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I wanted to get started and wanted to learn a little bit more about you.

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So give me a little backstory on Sheila Orchard.

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What got you into alternative and holistic medicine?

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What inspired you growing up?

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Like what made you, you know, what made that switch for you?

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Okay, all right, yeah.

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I grew up, I was kind of a troubled teen, went through some situations, you know, through the years,

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and I ended up dealing, I dealt with a lot of anxiety and depression.

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And then as an adult, I started dealing with some injuries that caused chronic pain,

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degenerative disc disease, arthritis, fibromyalgia.

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I ended up having a neck surgery.

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Yeah, I currently need another one.

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I'm saying no.

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Who's three are?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So that's kind of the gist of like my health for the most part.

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I don't know.

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The doctors just put me through the ringer like they do, you know, you get test after test and medicine after medicine.

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And next thing I know, I'm also an alcoholic.

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I'm doing everything I can to self-medicate along with their 13 medicines, including their opiates.

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Right.

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You know, everything, and it was just a spiral, horrible spiral.

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And I just finally, I couldn't take it.

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I knew I was going to lose everything dear to me, and it was not a life.

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I wasn't living life.

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I was a zombie.

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I was still stuck in bed.

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I was still hurting.

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I was still dealing with everything.

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So I don't know.

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It's my son and my son-in-law and daughter spoke to me about cannabis a little more.

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And I had used it in the past, but never medicinally.

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So they're like, hey, we can help you.

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You can do this.

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And so sure enough, I was like, all right, I was all in.

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I don't know if I've ever smoked so much cannabis in my life in that two months.

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I can admit, but I kicked it.

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I kicked it.

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I mean, yeah, some people will say once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic.

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But I can say I can actually take a drink here and there, a couple of drinks here and

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there, whatever.

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I know my limit.

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And I know how to catch myself if it starts feeling it's getting out of control now.

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I don't desire it like I did.

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I don't drink like I did at all.

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I mean, it's amazing.

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Cannabis literally saved my life.

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I totally stopped all 13 of those pills, including the obiates against doctors orders.

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I stopped cold turkey.

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Congratulations.

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That itself is a huge accomplishment.

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Thank you so much.

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I mean, it feels amazing now.

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Then the first six months was rough.

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Nobody understands how much their prescriptions in your body are hurting you.

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They believe these prescriptions are helping them.

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How's it help when, okay, well, this one causes this.

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So let's give you another one.

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Well, this one causes this.

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Well, let's give you another one to combat that.

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That's not helping me.

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I mean, you got like a whole bunch of interactions happening and you're just like all screwed

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up and you don't know what's going on.

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And these doctors don't really know any better because that's what they're taught.

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Exactly.

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That's screwed.

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That's the screwed up part.

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Exactly.

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So it took me, you know, yeah, I was probably 45-ish.

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Whenever I started the journey, I'm 50 now.

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And I am literally living my best life now that I have ever lived thanks to cannabis.

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That's awesome.

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That's an awesome story.

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I'm happy for you because I know that you make your own edibles.

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I know you've gotten into it.

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You do FICO oil basically for cancer patients, which is awesome.

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Tell us a little bit more about your business.

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All right.

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Excuse me.

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I started out with just a couple products actually, starting with my pain cream that

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I make, herbal comfort cream.

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I started making it for myself because I knew there had to be a way to help myself combat

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this pain.

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And I was tired of all the over-the-counter stuff.

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Nothing was helping.

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And so it took me a little bit, but I tweaked it and tweaked it and finally found the recipe

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I liked.

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Finally found the recipe that helped.

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And I don't know.

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I just started like I had friends and family hurting in need.

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And so I started sharing and that's just kind of how the first it all started.

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And I started with, oh, what was the name, like natural peace herbal boutique or something

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like that.

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It was just kind of one of those I had never done a business on my own.

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And I started, I had a pain cream, a lotion, dog treats.

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It's probably five or six different ingredients, but I also had herbal teas that I did as well.

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I was learning how to mix different herbs and teas, not just Hannah related, but ways

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to help with pain or congestion or anxiety or whatever.

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And so I did that for a little while and then I met a friend through another part-time job.

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And we decided to partner up.

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I learned a lot from her through the business.

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I've not wanted to bash anything.

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So I'm going to do what I can to stay positive on this.

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It was not meant to be.

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She I hope was able to learn something from me through all of it.

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I pray.

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I know I was able to learn a lot from her.

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I unfortunately went down with a back injury and I ended up having to deal with some high

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blood pressure that put me out of commission like totally for about six months.

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Wow.

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And it made me, yeah, I just stopped.

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It was, it was rough.

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And so I had to go back through the realm of doctor tests, doctor medicines, all their

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stuff, you know, next thing you know, they've got me on six different blood pressure heart

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medicines.

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And I don't know what to do.

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I've never, I mean, I've done a lot to help a lot of people with a lot of things, but

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when it comes to the heart, no, I'm out.

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You're right.

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You know, and so I jumped through their hoops and everything and I do a lot of reevaluating.

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And I realized that I was not meant to be in that partnership.

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That's not what's best for me and her either one.

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So thank you.

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It was.

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Yes, for us was to go forward separately, but to continue to do what we're doing because

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I know for a fact we was helping a lot of people.

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So I started on my own.

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I wasn't going to.

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I had no intentions of it.

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The heart doctors, I was able to get released and I personally told them, all right, I'm

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not taking all these meds.

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I'll take two, but I'm not taking them all.

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I tried none and that didn't work.

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So I succumbed to their two and it wasn't even a month of being hosting, you know, that

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I had been released and everybody's hit me up.

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So I was like, okay, okay, God, I'm listening.

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I'm listening here.

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You're giving me all the signs.

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So I guess I'm back at this.

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And so I decided I needed to start back, but I knew I had to go a different route.

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I wanted to be different.

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It's hard to do that too because like you said, it's your heart.

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I started dealing with some high blood pressure and it just, it was spiking like uncontrollable

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and I was getting real sick and I knew I had to do something about it.

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I went into the ER at one point even and they found a few little things with my heart, but

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nothing major.

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Basically, they just kept saying it was, they blew it off as stress.

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So at that point I'm thinking, okay, you have me on six different medications, not just

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for blood pressure, but for my heart.

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And you're telling me that I'm good except for stress.

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Not one of the medicines was for stress, mind you.

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Not one.

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That's wild.

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I was like, no, not doing it.

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Can't do it, you know.

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And so I got back on my feet, got rid of four of them, currently still on two blood pressure

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medicines.

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One of them I do not take consistent only when it's out of control.

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You have like one of those machines and stuff like you're measuring your heart rate, you

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know, your heart rate and your blood pressure like I would imagine pretty frequently.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And I can always tell when my blood pressure spikes on me.

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That's just something that I figured out with how my body feels.

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The flush, you know, the hot, the getting sick, nauseated, stuff like that.

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I know.

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So I'll take the one medicine consistently and then if I need, I'll take the other.

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What would you say cannabis has done for helping you with that?

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You know, manage some of those symptoms in your, you know, your high blood pressure because

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I have people, myself who use CBD products, for example, and they claim and they continue

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to use like, you know, hot products, cannabis products on the regular because it helps them

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control their blood pressure.

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How would you, how exactly how would you say that's accurate?

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Has it helped you with that?

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I would say it's helped me with the stress factor side of it as for trying to control

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that until it builds up to it.

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Anything after that, I'm not going to claim I'm on an amazing CBD or CBG regimen like I

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need to be.

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I'm more just kind of that whole plant.

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So I know, I do believe if I would get a little more intensive with the CBD and the CBG and

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a lot more of those other cannabinoids, I might be able to regulate it a little better.

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I know, like personally, we didn't get into this before, but I have an absorption issue

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as well.

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They can't tell me why I lost 45 pounds in a year and since then, about 10 years ago,

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I struggled to even maintain my weight.

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Like I will lose in a heartbeat.

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It's a real struggle for me.

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So you have to, I'm imagining you're eating pretty consistently.

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And in that, I also stress kills my appetite.

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So I rely on certain strains to help give me an appetite.

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That's a good point.

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You got to know what you're doing, got to know what medication you're taking.

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And there are actually, I refer to them as like cannabinoid specialists who kind of help

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guide you or educate you a little bit more because there's so much more to the plant.

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There's the plant terpenes, there's the full spectrum aspect of it and the entourage effect

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because that can be applied to not just THC, that can be applied to all the other 540 cannabinoids.

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So there's a lot of layers to it.

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And if you don't know what you're doing and let's say you get a sativa strain and you're

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really just kind of trying to chill out, you might not get what you're looking for.

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Exactly.

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Me, I got to stay away from sativas.

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They are not good for my blood pressure, not good for my heart rate.

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I mean, not good for my focus.

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They just, yeah, they throw me in a spin.

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For sure.

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I know exactly what you're talking about.

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I have to at least stick with a hybrid to kind of counteract a little bit because if

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I go full sativa, I'm spacing out and I'm a little wired up.

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We were so I had mentioned that, you know, my mom had heart problems as well.

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So for me, like I, I understand a little bit where some of the struggles would be with

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with that because it's definitely doesn't, it definitely doesn't seem like an easy process.

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It's like a, you know, with your heart, it's kind of like a life changing life altering

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thing when you start to have chronicles with your heart, you know,

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it definitely was.

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And then for that six months, the doctors was telling me, Oh, stay in bed, stay in bed.

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You're keeping yourself from having a heart attack or a stroke and all this and that.

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So that compounded, of course, my stress, you know, so I hear I'm listening to them

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It's finishing your purpose as well because you're not doing nothing.

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Yes, and so, you know, it did affect my partnership and business at that time.

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And, but once I got back on my feet again, I mean, I just, holy cow, I'm just, it can't

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catch up.

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Now, I do still deal with blood pressure problems occasionally.

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Um, like this last week, it was trying to spike, you know, running high and stuff.

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And so it is something that I still battle, but I don't deal with all the heart palpitations

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and all, all the extreme highs consistent like I was.

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That's a win.

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That's just a win in itself.

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And kind of like this kind of ties into it a little bit because you, you hadn't, you

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have your business, right?

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You have Christian cannabis advocate is your business.

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And that's basically, you know, that's you and that's, you know, you make a whole bunch

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of different types of extracts, topicals, edibles, so on and so forth, right?

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How would you say that, you know, your faith and, you know, your, how would you say your

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religion basically how, how would you say that has helped you and like what are some

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of the struggles that you've had, you know, going about it that way?

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Um, I think that choosing this route, I think my faith has actually helped me because even

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on those hard days or the hard weeks that every small business owner encounters, my

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faith keeps me looking on the positive side and the positive side is knowing I'm helping

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people.

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I'm helping those, those people that has cancer or kidney failure or liver failure or whatever,

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whatever the patients needs are at the time, you know, whoever I'm helping.

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And so that has definitely helped keep me going and been a lot of my drive.

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Uh, the struggles wise, it's been definitely difficult trying to intertwine the Christian

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and the cannabis together.

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I get a lot, a lot of judgment, a lot of animosity, a lot of, you know, I had people

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delete me off social media even and that's fine.

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You know, that's, that's our choice.

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You know, people just don't understand how they can intertwine that there and that's

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what I'm here to show.

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We had, because we had talked a little bit about diversity us talking previously.

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We had talked about diversity and how, um, you know, your faith had kind of opened your

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eyes a little bit to how your situation and how your business could be applied to many

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other religions and beliefs and, uh, their definition of faith and whatnot.

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And the faith almost, you know, the religion has, I think in my opinion, um, because it

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can be applied to many people, like people are missing the point, the, um, of what you're

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doing.

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It's not that, you know, you're trying to push, uh, cannabis and stuff on other people,

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you know, on Christians or anything, because it's exactly, you know, it's exactly the opposite.

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You're trying to bring in a completely different lifestyle than most are used to, you know,

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they think about it as weed still, right?

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You know, you know, I think on my profile saying the word holistic, it really means a

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lot because to me it's well rounded.

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The word holistic doesn't, to me, it doesn't mean you have to be a Christian or a Baptist

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or a Muslim or whatever, you know, like you pointed out, you know, whatever your religion

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is, I'm not there to judge that.

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We're all diverse in that.

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I'm just there to tie it together so that you can have everything right in the mind,

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body, spiritual soul, that whole aspect realm just works together.

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I agree.

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You know, I agree.

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And I, I support that too.

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You know, when I first met you and I had seen you on social media before and I was, you

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know, there are those people on social media that, you know, you don't talk to at first,

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but you kind of keep your eye on them because you like what they're doing.

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And you know what I mean?

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So, you know, so I had, so I, you know, I appreciated, you know, being able to finally,

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you know, talk to you about some of the stuff that had piqued my interest.

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So I definitely wanted to thank you on my part because I think you're, what you're doing

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is nothing short of amazing because you have your work cut out for you, most definitely

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going forward.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate that.

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You know, I do, but I do need you.

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So how do we, how do we get a hold of you?

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Right.

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So you got Facebook, Instagram, and then you have your email address, correct?

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So you can get in contact with you by messenger or by email.

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Yeah.

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Or just get, picking up the phone and giving you a call would probably be the easiest,

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right?

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That is correct too.

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They'll notice on my page, my phone number is usually listed from some flyer for an educational

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class or something that I'm doing.

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And so my phone number is pretty easy to find.

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It's awesome.

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Okay.

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And I'll include some links to, in this podcast, Sheila's social media profile so you can easily

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get in contact with her.

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Another topic that I wanted to cover with you, how do you think we can move forward and progress

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everything?

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Because there, I have to like remind myself, right?

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We had talked about this.

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It's not like this everywhere in the United States because people who, you know, in Michigan,

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I can go get cannabis products anytime I want.

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But in Texas, for example, you'll get arrested and go to jail.

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So how do you think we can all work together and start solving some of these issues, start

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making more progress, start, you know, just being more holistic, more cannabis friendly?

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I think the biggest thing that I've learned in the five years, seeing the community in

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Missouri even and outstretched a little bit from what I've seen just starting out, is

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we got to stick together supporting each other more.

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Not just locally, but like you said, outstretched in these other states.

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You know, just because you have that opportunity for that natural, you know, to help yourself,

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our brother or sister four states over does not have that opportunity.

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So the ones that are advocates going to the government, keep going.

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The ones that are advocates writing the letters, keep writing.

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You know, the ones that are advocates like you on podcasts, keep shouting it.

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You know, we're on social media groups, keep sharing.

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The more we support each other, instead of tearing each other down, I think that it's

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going to really show astronomical in the end.

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For sure.

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A lot of progress has been made even in my lifetime.

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You know, it was illegal.

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I had my issues, you know, possessing it in the in the past.

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Like it's like being, you know, it's just it's sucked.

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Like you're always on edge, you know, and it's more of like, I would say cannabis is

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like has a lot to do with spiritual beliefs too.

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So I see, you know, when you do like the Christian cannabis advocate in this, like it just it

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is very relatable to me because they're all about mind, body and soul, right?

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And all that connection, you know, so they are very, in my opinion, and very intertwined.

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I appreciate what you said about the podcast because it's not it is not easy to to keep

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going sometimes, but I have definitely found the strength and I think my faith has a lot

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to do with it and that's what resonated.

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And that's why I think we connect so well.

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You know, one last topic that I wanted to talk about was a little bit actually specifically

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with your business.

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It's also a little bit more about what you do because you you make these oils for, you

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know, explain to me like a day, like what's the day for you?

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How does how does a day look for you on this business?

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Okay, a day usually looks starting at my phone because I'll have some patients that have

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contacted me over the night, usually about every day, different needs.

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I have I have come up with all natural, by the way, all of these different herbs, spices

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and cannabis and oils.

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I make pain cream, lotion, salt that you can sprinkle on your food, a lip balm, dog treats,

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pain drops, like, I don't know.

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I mean, seriously, if I can infuse it, if it's something out there, I guarantee I can

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infuse it.

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That's funny.

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The biggest thing probably that I spend most of my time these days doing is probably the

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capsules alongside the pain cream.

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The capsules would entail anywhere from the chill pills that helps with anxiety, anxiety,

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nausea, things like that.

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I've got a patient that's anorexic.

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It actually helps her have an appetite where I have another patient, it controls their

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appetite.

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A lot of that just depends on your own endocannabinoid systems.

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I make a lot, a lot of fecal, that full extract cannabis oil.

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There's a lot of patients with cancer that receive free medication from me thanks to

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anyone that purchases any products from me or donates to my business.

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That goes back into the FICO program I have for these patients in need.

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I don't want them to ever have to worry about a cost.

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That's awesome.

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That's incredible.

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That's awesome.

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To me, that is the biggest one right there is trying to keep up with that need, to be

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honest.

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It's a struggle.

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It's not easy.

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A lot of things are easy, but it's definitely worth it.

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That's what keeps me going.

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That's awesome.

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Real quick, can you explain a little bit about FICO?

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Yeah.

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I take the whole plant.

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Roots, stems, stalks, sugar leaves, buds, the whole plant.

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I like adding in extra CBD and CBG.

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Personally, I use at least four strains.

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That way I'm getting a variety whenever I make mine.

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I'll soak that plant, the dried plant with high-proof alcohol, whether it be moonshine

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or Everclear.

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That is, mind you, very expensive.

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I have a distiller, so I'll then be able to, once I strain that off, I'll distill it

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down to be able to reclaim and save some of that alcohol.

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It saves me a little bit of money.

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Then I evaporate off the rest of the alcohol, and it makes that beautiful golden, brown,

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full extract cannabis oil.

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It'll kill cancer cells, protect them good cells, rebuild new cells.

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The endocannabinoid system and this FICO, man, it's being hailed as a miracle medicine.

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It's really awesome that it makes complete sense to me for that to be your main product,

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because of it being such a strong medication and having so many good results.

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I'm glad you shared that with us and educated us a little bit.

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If you want to learn more about FICO, I would reach out to Sheila.

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She has this excellent program, and she's helping a lot of people out here.

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Go support Sheila.

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Give her a call.

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Reach out to her on social media.

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Thank you for coming on the show, number, you know, that it means a lot to me, and I

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know it will mean a lot to more people out there too who are struggling or on the fence

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about cannabis medicine.

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Thanks for having me anytime.

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If anybody has any questions, I hope they reach out to me.

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I do too.

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I truly do.

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So, we are, you have any last words for us before we wrap up?

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Oh, I don't know.

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I guess keep it natural.

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Stay true to yourself.

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Know your words.

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Exactly.

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Know your words.

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Like your light shine because you never know who is helping.

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Feel free to reach out to us with your experience questions or even just to say hello.

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Until next time, take care of yourself and one another.

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Embrace the power of nature.

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Stay curious.

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Stay inspired.

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And most importantly, stay connected.

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It's been a pleasure to be part of your dates today.

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Reach out to us.

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