1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,440 You're listening to Only the Best Herbs. 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:23,960 Welcome to Only the Best Herbs, a podcast where the ancient wisdom of herbal healing 3 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:30,200 meets the groundbreaking discoveries of now, 2024. 4 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:36,840 Today I am joined by a very special guest, Kathy Guastella. 5 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Hi Kathy, how are you doing today? 6 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,320 I'm good, how are you Ryan? 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,320 I'm doing fantastic. 8 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,640 So, I wanted to get to know you a little bit better. 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,600 We know we have a microphone at the New Baltimore Trade Center. 10 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,760 We talk on a regular, I would say, and keep up. 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,360 How do you consider us friends? 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:05,280 I appreciate everything that you have, the tips and just being there and all that good 13 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,280 stuff. 14 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,640 Absolutely, I appreciate you having me today. 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,640 For sure. 16 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,440 So, tell me a little bit about yourself. 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,080 What exactly do you do as far as your business? 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:23,400 My business, I've been doing, well, with the essential oil part of it, I've been doing 19 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,960 it about 14 years. 20 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:33,040 When I retired from my day job, I went to Gibraltar Trade Center and opened up like 21 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,480 a little shop there. 22 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,880 I had essential oils and salt lamps and things like that. 23 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:50,440 When the trade center closed, I opened up another little place in St. Clair Shores and 24 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,360 salt lamps weren't really selling anymore because at that point, everything, they were 25 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,160 pretty saturated, Home Depot had them and really cheap. 26 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:04,480 So, when I opened up at the New Baltimore Trade Center, I decided I came in with one 27 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,400 little box of crystals, tumbles, and everybody wanted more crystals. 28 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:16,760 I knew enough about them for my own personal use, not enough to guide people or help share 29 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,600 them or whatever. 30 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:30,400 In five years that I've been there now, that's the bulk of my sales as the crystals. 31 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,840 Originally I started essential oils about 20 years ago. 32 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:41,520 19 years ago, I went to France and studied there. 33 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,800 They've basically been my medicine. 34 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,600 I don't use, very rarely do I go to the doctor. 35 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,720 I just try a holistic approach to living. 36 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:01,480 Just try to be as clean as I can as far as avoiding chemicals. 37 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,160 That's a big thing right now and it's a big adjustment for a lot of people. 38 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,560 It's kind of been a trending thing lately, which is cool to see. 39 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,480 A lot of things that I've been getting involved, it's really where a lot of things that I've 40 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:20,560 gotten involved in in the past, since I started my business, have really picked up. 41 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:26,000 It's definitely cool to be a part of that and you have definitely been a part of that 42 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,040 for the last, what, two decades, right? 43 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,640 I was like a pioneer. 44 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:33,600 Exactly my point. 45 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:46,760 There was very few places you could reach out to here in Michigan that 28 years ago. 46 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:53,280 I grow and learn and change as I'm learning more and more and trying different products. 47 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Essential oils will always be a factor. 48 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:06,040 I've added crystals now more, but just doing supplements, things like that. 49 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,040 I try them if they work, I keep them if they don't work. 50 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:15,120 Then I move on and try something else, which is, I never really did the CBD until I met 51 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,120 you. 52 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Yeah, really? 53 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,880 I did try it here and there with some other people, but it just didn't work, where I find 54 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,680 the products that you have worked the most. 55 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,960 I appreciate that. 56 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:34,120 I incorporate that in with the essential oils and my supplements that I take. 57 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,120 That's awesome. 58 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,120 You usually see results, right? 59 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:43,240 You feel a bit more calm, you feel a little bit more balanced? 60 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Absolutely. 61 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:49,760 Well, mostly when I do the CBD is at night and helps me to sleep a little better. 62 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Even though the essential oils work, your body every day is something different going 63 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,240 on. 64 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:05,280 You have to incorporate and mix and do other things too. 65 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:11,520 It's not a one-stop solution, especially when you're dealing with holistic products. 66 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,600 It's not like, oh, here, take this painkill, you're not going to have any pain. 67 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,840 People don't understand that. 68 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:19,840 No. 69 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:20,840 No. 70 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:22,480 Because they want the quick fix. 71 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:29,040 That's what they've been taught and that's what they've been used to. 72 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:35,440 When you start a holistic journey, you have to do what feels good in here and here. 73 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,280 That's the way I think about it. 74 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:46,960 If it makes sense to both areas, to my heart and my thoughts, then that's what my guiding 75 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:47,960 forces. 76 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Yeah. 77 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,680 That's really awesome. 78 00:05:52,680 --> 00:06:01,840 When I got to the New Baltimore Trade Center and when we met, you or somebody I gravitated 79 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:08,920 towards because I could tell that we had a common interest or a common goal. 80 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,080 It was refreshing. 81 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,840 It was refreshing to see because I don't normally see, I don't see anything like that 82 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:17,840 around my area. 83 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:19,960 We live in a Metro Detroit area. 84 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:26,080 There are cannabis and dispensaries all over the place. 85 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,560 Around the Detroit area, there is a dispensary effort. 86 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,560 If not every mile, even less. 87 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Let's say eight mile, for example, all the way down eight mile, dispensary, dispensary, 88 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,880 dispensary, dispensary. 89 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Because people are now looking for health, they're looking for to get high. 90 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Right. 91 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,080 That's it. 92 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:52,320 When you're masking your feelings, it's not health. 93 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,320 I will say TXC is a cannabinoid. 94 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,840 People take it to the 30th power, the 100th power. 95 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:05,920 They're just sitting around all day and they're just going somewhere else. 96 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,440 They're going to a playground function. 97 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,960 A TDC cannabis definitely has a lot of medicinal properties. 98 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,960 Absolutely. 99 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,680 When you're incorporating it with the other cannabinoids. 100 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Right. 101 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,960 You're going to get the full spectrum or what do you call it, the entourage effect. 102 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Yes. 103 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:31,840 They're definitely, I believe 100% of TAC would like for a reason you just said this. 104 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,520 If you take too much CBD, you're going to go to sleep. 105 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:48,480 But getting back to you and the crystals, why exactly did you start working on crystals? 106 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Well I've, like I said, I knew a little bit about them just enough for my own self, like 107 00:07:53,960 --> 00:08:04,720 for calming, energetic, meditating, things like that. 108 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:11,280 When I opened up more into it and started to learn more about it, it just makes sense 109 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,560 that it's going to function on another level as far as. 110 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,440 There's like a human connection to it. 111 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,440 Yes. 112 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Very, there you can feel it. 113 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Well it's part of the earth as our plants. 114 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:32,840 So therefore you have your, you know, your CBD, you have your TAC, you have essential 115 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,840 oils. 116 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,840 So you're plant based. 117 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,920 And now the rocks now are becoming a mineral base. 118 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,200 And what are our bodies? 119 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,200 They're not plants. 120 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,200 They're organic. 121 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,200 We had minerals. 122 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:53,200 So all those things are going to incorporate in function, I think, together. 123 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,200 A different level than just one isolated. 124 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:04,280 The people that are just using CBD might benefit more if they incorporate some of the crystals 125 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:11,480 or some of the meditation in with that and maybe a little bit of the cannabis or mushroom 126 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,480 or whatever. 127 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:19,440 You can only do try one thing at a time and see how it affects more each item. 128 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,440 You can't just say, I'm going to try all these things now once. 129 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,680 If you don't know what's working, then you can do that. 130 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:26,680 Absolutely. 131 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:29,680 You got like this, you got like all these effects going on. 132 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:35,160 And because, you know, I like them all and I do know a lot of people who eventually get 133 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,880 to that point, oh, THC. 134 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,360 But I, and then they go, here, there, there, and I completely agree with that. 135 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:48,640 Well you have to decide for yourself what is going to help and benefit you. 136 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:55,120 Another thing that I incorporate is the Reiki, the energy work, and definitely crystals amplify 137 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,120 that. 138 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:03,440 I have several different crystals that I use for myself when I do a self Reiki or a client 139 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:10,120 will come in and I'll have them hold one or another or place them on their body, you 140 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:16,880 know, depending on if I'm doing a home where I go to the home with my table and do energy 141 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,800 work that way, I can place crystals on. 142 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,040 I can't really do that. 143 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,360 They're sitting up in a chair at my shop. 144 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:30,840 So when you're, when you're doing these, you know, this meditation with the crystals 145 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:36,080 and you're, you know, you're trying to clear your mind and you're trying to get to that 146 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,080 balance state, right? 147 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,080 Can you, can you kind of explain to me what that feels like? 148 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,760 Like when you're, when you're doing it? 149 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:48,960 It's kind of almost like an outer body experience. 150 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,680 Sometimes I feel radiant. 151 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:55,000 Like it's radiating out of me. 152 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:01,320 Other times I feel like I'm bringing in the life force and it kind of like just settles 153 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,320 you. 154 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,320 That makes sense. 155 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:09,320 Depending on what, you know, what crystal or what you're meditating on or what you know, 156 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,920 maybe you're intending or what you want to have. 157 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:14,920 Right. 158 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,920 Manifestations, I can say. 159 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Yeah, absolutely. 160 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,760 You can use crystals for manifestation. 161 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:29,920 I believe that it's kind of like the, what you dwell on is what you get. 162 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,280 So if you, if you dwell on more negativity, you're going to get more negativity. 163 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:41,080 If you want to dwell on more positive, more enlightening, more enriching, it's going to 164 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,360 work that way for you too. 165 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,360 I don't believe you. 166 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,360 And that's something that takes, I would say practice. 167 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:52,280 It takes consistency. 168 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Meditating also does take practice. 169 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,920 When I first started, I'm like, I don't know, I'm doing this right. 170 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,120 You think you're supposed to be quiet and that hear things. 171 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,560 Well, that's not the case. 172 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:09,560 Your thoughts are going to come in and go out and have been tied and flow continually 173 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:13,800 through the whole meditating process. 174 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,360 When I first was learning how to meditate, I was learning with this guy that I took 175 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,040 raking through and he lived in an apartment in Royal Oak. 176 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Well, we're right off Woodward. 177 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,160 We're here in all this noise. 178 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,400 I'm like, how can we meditate? 179 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:36,200 Trust me, it took a couple of tries before I was able to really just let it all go and 180 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,200 take it all in. 181 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:45,160 For those who don't know about Woodward in Michigan, Woodward is one of the main roads 182 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,200 that goes in and out of Detroit. 183 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:59,440 There's a lot of, you will find if you go a few miles, either way, it's the whole scenery 184 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:05,800 of the Metro Detroit area or what you're doing or where you're going is always, it's 185 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,240 just very, how do you say, diverse. 186 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,960 You get this good and you've got the bad on both. 187 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,680 Very good way of doing it. 188 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:16,680 It's loud. 189 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:17,680 It's loud. 190 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,680 You hear doors, you hear people. 191 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:25,440 Living in an apartment complex, you hear doors and people and smells, people cooking. 192 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,760 It was hard. 193 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,320 It was at first. 194 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:39,640 If you can get into that environment and get what you need to take out of it, that on his 195 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,040 plane where he was at, it was amazing. 196 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,040 That's awesome. 197 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,520 You got to learn from somebody like that, the channel. 198 00:13:49,520 --> 00:14:04,080 That kind of gets me to my next point about people who have been doing this for 10, 15, 199 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,360 20 years. 200 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Those people need, not need, but I'm seeing more people educating how to do that because 201 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:24,720 you're deciding that you're like, hey, I want to start doing this and you just try and you 202 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:35,280 have no idea how, like you said, it's definitely important to have someone to talk to, an instructor, 203 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,960 I don't want to say a consultant, but someone who teaches you how to do it. 204 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,960 A guy. 205 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Exactly. 206 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,960 Exactly. 207 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,600 I would definitely encourage anyone who is looking into essential oils or who is looking 208 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,240 at the crystals to reach out to Kathy. 209 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:57,440 Kathy, go ahead, give us your information. 210 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,080 Well I don't really have a website. 211 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,080 I tried that. 212 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,080 It just doesn't work for me. 213 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,480 I'm old school. 214 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,880 You can find me on Facebook, Katzy Central's. 215 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,880 It's all one word. 216 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,000 You can find me on Google. 217 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,120 I get a lot of people finding me on Google. 218 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:25,160 Just search holistic or metaphysical and I am located in New Baltimore at the New Baltimore 219 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,680 Trade Center, Katzy Central's and you'll find me on those social media sites. 220 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,880 You got a phone number possibly? 221 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:33,880 Yes. 222 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:40,480 It's Erico586-868-3420. 223 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,360 It texts me because sometimes if I don't recognize a number, I don't answer it. 224 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Right. 225 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,360 It's spam. 226 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,360 Yeah, absolutely. 227 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,360 So text me first if you have any questions or you can email me to katgues.comcast.net. 228 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,360 Sweet. 229 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,360 We're going to take a quick break. 230 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,360 Don't go anywhere. 231 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:08,360 You're listening to Only the Best Here. 232 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:24,360 So now we're going to have to talk about your path again. 233 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,360 So we're going to talk about that. 234 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,360 I think we, okay. 235 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:42,960 So tell us about what got you into alternative and natural medicine or central oils. 236 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Well in 1995, we had moved and I get a call from my doctor that I need more testing and 237 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:59,000 I was essentially diagnosed with breast cancer. 238 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:08,520 And the first thing that we discussed was a lumpctomy to make sure that it was cancerous. 239 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,520 And that's what they did. 240 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,520 They did a lumpctomy. 241 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 They found clear margins. 242 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,800 It hadn't gone into the lymph nodes. 243 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:20,800 So all they recommended was this drug called Tamaxapen, which they told me was a hormone 244 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,280 blocker because the cancer was estrogen positive. 245 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,520 So I agreed to take that. 246 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:38,440 And then about 18 months later, they said I had a reoccurrence, which let me back that 247 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,440 up a little bit. 248 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,600 About a year after being on the Tamaxapen, I couldn't take that I was having such severe 249 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,600 migraines. 250 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,680 So they took me on. 251 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,480 And then about another eight months later, when I went back to my mammogram, they saw 252 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,480 something suspicious. 253 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,000 So they did a lumpctomy and said yes, the cancer reoccurred. 254 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Well, if it hadn't gone into my lymph nodes, my thought was it was there before they just 255 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,680 didn't see it, which is a possibility. 256 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,480 It was so small. 257 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:14,680 But then now they wanted to do chemo after they did remove the breast. 258 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:20,360 Well, when they did the surgery they found there was no cancer in the lymph nodes yet 259 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:21,360 again. 260 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:29,280 So in my mind, I'm thinking, well, if there's no cancer in my body, why would I want to do 261 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,920 chemo? 262 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,040 And the reason I went that way is because a friend of mine borrowed me a book called 263 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,480 Cancer and Battle Plan. 264 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:45,000 And in that book, it talked a lot about chemo because it was written by a guy who was white. 265 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,840 It had gone through all that. 266 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:52,840 And I did some studies and some research and I just, that's not the way I want to go. 267 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,600 So I got into more holistic stuff. 268 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,240 The book said to find a massage therapist. 269 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,920 So that's the first thing I did. 270 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:07,320 And when I got to her location where she was doing the massage, she had a whole, you 271 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,080 know, holistic store setup basically. 272 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,440 She had a tilation therapy. 273 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:21,200 She had colonics, vitamin therapy, yoga, Tai Chi. 274 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:30,560 She had a multitude of different kinds of natural ways of your body functioning. 275 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:37,840 So also she was doing Reiki, which is the energy work, and then she just started getting 276 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,240 into the essential oils. 277 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,920 And then to about ten years after that, we went to France. 278 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,760 She invited me to go with her there to study. 279 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:53,840 So that's really what got me more into the essential oils. 280 00:19:53,840 --> 00:20:05,200 I have, I can tell you maybe five times since probably 1998 that I've been to her after. 281 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,200 Yes. 282 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:19,320 That is definitely admirable because I don't think 99% of the population would go there 283 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,320 out. 284 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,320 And that's awesome. 285 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,320 That's awesome. 286 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Well, if you give your body what it needs, it can take care of itself. 287 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,560 That's the way I look at it. 288 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,320 And giving it what it needs is plugging. 289 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:42,720 It's like if you're taking a medication that's synthetic, or if you're using synthetic products, 290 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,960 that's like trying to fit a square plug into a round hole. 291 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,720 It might go in, but it's going to seal a leak. 292 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,080 You got an algae, I like that. 293 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Your body can't function unless you're giving it what it needs, what it requires or what 294 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,600 it can respond to, what it recognizes. 295 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:08,280 Who would you say would respond to that? 296 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:15,400 Anything that I believe that the earth provides us, whether it's plant or mineral. 297 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:22,080 And if you're surrounded by pollution, you have to detox that pollution out. 298 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,080 Environment is everything. 299 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,080 Environment is everything. 300 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:30,080 Environment is the most important factor in my opinion. 301 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,080 You know, people who are right. 302 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:38,520 Anyone who thinks that plays a major role in their life, but if you have structure growing 303 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,520 up and you have people who you can alternative medicines and growing up, you're most likely 304 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:50,080 going to grow up to be kind of having those same morals and the same ethics and the same 305 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,760 thought process as you did with your life because you learned those, you know, that 306 00:21:54,760 --> 00:22:02,080 time of your life and your child is really when you learn all those key beliefs. 307 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,640 That's why I think it's important that we do things like this and we have conversations 308 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,640 like this and people watch and listen to things like this because I think it's something 309 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,360 that is completely pushed on to the rough. 310 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:24,720 So well, if you think about it, big pharma has taken control of our health. 311 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,840 And what doctors are taught, they've taken control of that. 312 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:34,960 They've gotten away from the holistic approaches and more into the medications that are sympathetic 313 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:44,240 to what they've done and they really don't, I'm not saying all doctors, but they don't 314 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,440 think beyond the box. 315 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,400 It was the school they learned this and they stay in that box. 316 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,400 That's it. 317 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,400 Yeah. 318 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,400 Doctors, when you go to, let's say you go to a gastro doctor, right? 319 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:01,400 If you try talking about anything else that's outside of gastro, we can get into a spot. 320 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,400 But what's up to that? 321 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:09,040 No one's going to give you a recommendation on something they don't specialize in, but 322 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,040 they're going to try to convince you that their way is good. 323 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,040 Yeah. 324 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:20,920 And a lot of these medications out there are actually inspired by plant medicine. 325 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:27,280 Well, that's where they get their meat, but then they sympathize it and turn in synthetics 326 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,560 that your bodies are not going to recognize. 327 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,360 So they're jockeying, pardon my French, they're jockeying off the plant world and turning 328 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,360 it into something that it's not. 329 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:37,360 Right. 330 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:38,360 And profiting on it. 331 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:39,360 It did, yeah. 332 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:40,360 There's a big profit in that. 333 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:49,360 So it's just funny how the world works and we just need to take the stuff backwards here 334 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:50,360 in my opinion. 335 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:55,360 Obviously things are going to change overnight and people will probably think the loudest 336 00:23:55,360 --> 00:24:00,360 stuff I say in bullshit and a lot of stuff you say in bullshit. 337 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:01,360 And that's okay. 338 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:02,360 They're priceless. 339 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:03,360 That's okay. 340 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:10,960 That's okay to think that because your lifestyle choices, for example, I take CBD every day. 341 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,760 I feel pretty fucking good. 342 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,760 I feel pretty good. 343 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,960 You have, and I have crystals here in the house. 344 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:24,200 I don't practice like rakey or anything, but that's something I would definitely be 345 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,200 open to as well. 346 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:35,720 And we talked about not knowing how to use crystals, for example, and that goes with 347 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,720 all other alternative medicines. 348 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,720 You don't know really enough about CBD or use it the right way or you don't know enough 349 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,400 about this to use it the right way. 350 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:53,400 So there's always, you always want to, I don't want to use the word consult, but you always 351 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,400 want to have a guide in your adventure. 352 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:01,400 You want to have a guide that teaches you the right way to do things. 353 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:07,400 And that's kind of where you come in, I would say, as well, having 20 plus years of experience 354 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,400 doing that, going to France to study on more of it. 355 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,400 I mean, this is a real thing. 356 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,400 This isn't something that, it's not a hobby. 357 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,400 No. 358 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,400 And I think that's something that people get mixed up in. 359 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,400 This isn't something that you do on the side. 360 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,400 This is a lifestyle choice. 361 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,400 It's a lifestyle makeover. 362 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,400 And you don't just learn it in one episode. 363 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,400 It's like turn your TV on and watch a TV episode. 364 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,400 Like I said, I'd evolved. 365 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,400 I didn't just start. 366 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:52,400 I didn't just get to where I am after 20 plus years in one week. 367 00:25:52,400 --> 00:26:01,400 It usually takes people, I think, to go through an event, kind of like you had mentioned in your past, 368 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:07,400 to really evaluate what is best for them. 369 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,400 Do you want to live? 370 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,400 Do you not care? 371 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,400 That's kind of like the choices. 372 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,400 You can choose to trust your doctor. 373 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,400 You can choose to do whatever you believe. 374 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:28,400 But at the end of the day, kind of like we had mentioned, all of these practices had to have originated from somewhere. 375 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,400 And that's where we're at. 376 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,400 And that's what you offer. 377 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,400 That's what you offer. 378 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,400 You offer a different way to do things. 379 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,400 And that's different than what the rest of you offer. 380 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:51,400 And as Jon talked about, if you can just use yourella in your house or in the hotel room for a day, 381 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:58,400 then that's the way you're allowed to drive around. 382 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,400 That's where actors go back in and sit in the pool with their orientation. 383 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,400 Say, you died. 384 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,400 I can't understand. 385 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,400 Try not to. 386 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,400 Yeah. 387 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:15,640 It's a lifestyle change. 388 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,200 And I just, that's the way I choose when I first got into it all. 389 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,520 My son was nine years old when I was diagnosed. 390 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,520 He needed his mother to be here. 391 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,520 For sure. 392 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,520 You know. 393 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,520 I've been fortunate. 394 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:34,640 And I just wanted to be able to help and share and get the word out there that there 395 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,640 is a better way. 396 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,640 For sure. 397 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,640 I agree with that. 398 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,640 Of course. 399 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,640 Absolutely. 400 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,640 Just kind of wanting to remind our listeners and our viewers that CAT is always available. 401 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:55,640 How about you share our information with us one more time? 402 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,640 Yep. 403 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,120 You can reach out to me on Facebook. 404 00:27:58,120 --> 00:27:59,120 It's CATS Essentials. 405 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,120 It's all one word. 406 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:01,120 You can find me on Google, same place. 407 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:02,120 CATS Essentials. 408 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:11,480 You can Google alternative or metaphysical shots near me. 409 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,920 I'm located in New Baltimore, Michigan. 410 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,480 And you can also find me on email. 411 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,280 It's K-A-T-G-U-A-S at Comcast.net. 412 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,480 And my phone number is 586-868-3420. 413 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:35,240 I do recommend if you want to speak with me, text me first because I don't always answer 414 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,240 the phone. 415 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,240 If I don't recognize it. 416 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,240 A lot of times I will call that number back, but it doesn't say spam on my phone. 417 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:49,880 I want to point out that CAT has a lot of different hudish crystals, a lot of different 418 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:57,880 shapes, a lot of different minerals, a lot of different crystal stones. 419 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:04,880 So, ways to do that, you have your Reiki and the chocolate. 420 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,400 What do you call that? 421 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,400 The Reiki Energy Mark? 422 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Yeah, where are you wearing that on your neck right there? 423 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,240 This is Learmark and this is Apple Marine. 424 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:23,360 These are both very calming and they bring a sense of balance from nature through water. 425 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,360 That's my interpretation. 426 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:36,040 I knew that I would be speaking and I wanted to be able to reflect in a positive way my 427 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,040 feelings. 428 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,880 A lot of times I can't speak public. 429 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,880 I get tongue tight. 430 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,880 So, this kind of helps. 431 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,880 I can definitely see that. 432 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:54,880 My whole thing doing with this podcast is comfortability and being a center of the 433 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,880 community. 434 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:03,320 And I think it's a safe place for people to open up about their past, open up about alternative 435 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,000 medicines and how it's helped them and how it's affected them because without these success 436 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:15,200 stories and without these people putting in the work to make this happen, we are ever 437 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,000 going to see any type of change. 438 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,200 We are going to see things going in a different direction. 439 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:30,200 We might not have more pioneers in this world to help make those changes. 440 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,200 So, keeping the flow going. 441 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,600 This isn't an easy thing. 442 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:42,440 I would not say this is the easiest market to be in at all. 443 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:51,200 Because us as a business owner or the message we're trying to convey to people is not something 444 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,200 that they're used to hearing. 445 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,200 It's foreign. 446 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,200 And, you know. 447 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:06,720 Well, there's different parts of the United States where it's more acceptable. 448 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,720 Because it's been around a lot longer. 449 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:18,760 And like I said, back in 95, there was nothing here in Michigan very few and far and in between. 450 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,480 The Royal Oak, we talked about that city. 451 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,240 They probably had a few things going on there. 452 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,600 Charlotte Irwin was the grace of God that sent me to her because it opened up a whole 453 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,400 new world of opportunity. 454 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,320 I am the one that chose to learn more. 455 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,120 She offered some of the experience. 456 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:48,680 But I went over, you know, I just followed what made sense to me. 457 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,480 I'm not sure if we missed this or not. 458 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:59,120 But another important thing, I'm going to have you explain this again, is the feeling you 459 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:06,080 get when practicing meditation and practicing with these crystals. 460 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,080 You know. 461 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,080 Yeah. 462 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,160 Well, you feel, sometimes it feels like an outer body experience. 463 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Like you're looking at somebody else. 464 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,800 But you're really not. 465 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,080 You're internalizing it and you're feeling it as if you're somebody else. 466 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,080 Wow. 467 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Like. 468 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,080 But this takes strength. 469 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Right. 470 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,080 Absolutely. 471 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,080 Yeah. 472 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,080 Yeah. 473 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Again, in the book that my friend gave me, he said, did practice meditation. 474 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:40,000 So I went and got some, back then it was just cassette tape. 475 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000 There was no CDs or anything. 476 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,440 No USB or LOOT. 477 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,440 Yeah, no. 478 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,360 Well, they had self-guided meditation. 479 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,520 And I found one called the healing waterfall. 480 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,320 What that does, it takes you through a guided meditation where you're seeing all these different 481 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:03,720 colors and you're healing your body visually by visualizing it in your mind. 482 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,720 Intended. 483 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,720 Yes. 484 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,720 And I did that every night before I went to bed or sometimes I would just sit in the chair 485 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880 and put it on and listen to it. 486 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:19,040 And in fact, when I had my second surgery going in, I brought that headset with me and 487 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,040 they let me have it in. 488 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,880 Now, whether they took it off for me or not, I don't know. 489 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:30,040 But when I came out of the sedation, I had the headset back on and the music was playing. 490 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,040 That's really cool story. 491 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:39,760 I mean, it sucks for you, but you know, that's like a very, it shows your beliefs. 492 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,760 Yeah. 493 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,960 It shows how passionate you are about it, how much you believe in it. 494 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,120 I believe in it. 495 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:53,920 I think, I mean, they have exactly what you're talking about sounds from nature that help, 496 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,640 you know, you're talking about how people get green noise. 497 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,720 That's all part of it. 498 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,160 It's included with meditation, I would think. 499 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,160 Yeah. 500 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:09,120 And the hospital thought I was crazy because I brought in my juices that I had used and 501 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,120 they didn't care. 502 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,120 They used that egg. 503 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,120 Go ahead. 504 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,120 What I'm going to float your boat. 505 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,120 Yeah, they did. 506 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,120 I was surprised. 507 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:24,920 So, kind of to wrap things up a little bit. 508 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,200 I wanted to thank you for coming on the show. 509 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:37,600 I wanted to highlight your, I think in my professional opinion, Southeast Michigan area, 510 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:45,600 you are very, you were very, I would say very respected as a crystal person in the area. 511 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,600 A lot of people know me. 512 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,600 A lot of people have bought crystals from you. 513 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:58,960 You have an extensive collection of crystals available, things to practice. 514 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,680 I even got myself the Tree of Life board. 515 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,680 Yeah. 516 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,680 Absolutely. 517 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,880 I got a beacon of hope in my business right now. 518 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,680 It attracts good energy and a lot of different things going on. 519 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:17,880 I will tell you, when I'm in here, I feel at home, I feel good. 520 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,840 I'm not sure if that's just the energy I'm putting out or if it's a combo of the bowls 521 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:29,680 or, you know, but, you know, this business is my safe space. 522 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:36,680 I'm glad that you get to be a part of this. 523 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,680 I wanted people to hear your story. 524 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,680 Very inspirational. 525 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,680 Thank you. 526 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,680 And I think you deserve to tell it. 527 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,680 Thank you so much. 528 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,680 Just wanted to thank everyone for listening. 529 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:56,680 I would recommend anybody who is interested in learning more about any of the things that 530 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,680 we've talked about in this episode to reach out to Kathy. 531 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,680 I consult with Kathy when I get new crystals. 532 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,680 If I have anything, any questions, she always helps me out. 533 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,680 I ask her for advice. 534 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,680 I urge you to do the same thing. 535 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,680 She's only called, emailed away. 536 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,680 You don't see me at New Baltimore Trades Center? 537 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,680 Yeah. 538 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,680 Yeah. 539 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,680 That's the essentials. 540 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,680 I'm on a shaft number 108. 541 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,680 I'm in the front doors. 542 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,680 Turn to the right and I'm on the left. 543 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,680 I've been there and I'm the last one to be there again. 544 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,680 So we'll wrap it up. 545 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680 Anything else you have to say? 546 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,680 No. 547 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:41,680 Just thank you for having me and I appreciate you thinking about me to come on the show. 548 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,680 It will not be a laugh. 549 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,680 Well, thank you. 550 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,680 So, appreciate everyone for listening. 551 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:53,680 Feel free to reach out to us with your experience questions or even just to say hello. 552 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,680 Until next time, take care of yourself and one another. 553 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,680 Embrace the power of nature. 554 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,680 Stay curious, stay inspired and most importantly, stay connected. 555 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,680 It's been a pleasure to be part of your day today. 556 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,680 You think you have what it takes to be only the best? 557 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,680 Reach out to us. 558 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,680 Operations. 559 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:24,680 Pat, surgeon solutions.org.