1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,300 I want to put the spotlight on the cannabis microbial market. 2 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:13,300 This show is brought to you by Surgeons LLC in partnership with Ruga Monteto Feminized Genetics and Simply Professional Formal. 3 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:16,800 For those who don't know me, my name is Ryan Boulda. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:26,300 Full disclosure, everything in this show is thought of, written and produced by myself and the staff here at our company, Surgeons LLC. 5 00:00:26,300 --> 00:00:30,100 Presented by SRGM Networks. 6 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:34,800 This is about half cannabis, microbials, another half... 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Alright, how's it going everyone? 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:45,800 This week we got Mike Ozowski, aka Sam Rich with us today. 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:54,800 For those who don't know me and Sam aka Mike Ozowski, we came together to start 10 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,300 What is now Swampy State Mycology? 11 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:06,800 It's an interactive Facebook group for people looking to get into mycology, mushrooms, mushroom medicine, what not. 12 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,800 It's a huge project. 13 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:14,300 Both me and Sam have put a lot of effort into it. 14 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:18,300 By the way, we appreciate everyone's support. 15 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:20,300 But let's get right into it. 16 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:21,800 So, tell us Sam. 17 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,800 How exactly did you get into mushroom medicine? 18 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,800 How did you get into all this to begin with? 19 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Honestly, I was just bored and looking for something to do with my life. 20 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,300 I didn't have joy in anything. 21 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:39,800 I was just going to work, coming home and repeating the cycle. 22 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,300 And I don't know why I happened upon mushrooms, but I was like, what the hell? 23 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:46,300 Let me give it a try. 24 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:48,300 And before I knew it, I had the bug deep. 25 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:50,300 I was deep down the rabbit hole. 26 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:53,300 So yeah, tell us about that. 27 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:56,300 What was the inspiration on Swampy State Mycology? 28 00:01:56,300 --> 00:02:02,300 So, me and my buddy, Todd James, he's one of the moderators for Swampy State. 29 00:02:02,300 --> 00:02:06,800 He reconnected, actually probably only a week or two before you and I. 30 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,800 And we just connected instantly. 31 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,800 He just seemed like super cool people. 32 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,300 He's from also a Swampy State. 33 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:14,800 He's from Louisiana. 34 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:21,800 So he was throwing around ideas and he was like, why don't we try to go into some sort of business together? 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:28,300 And so we thought about it for a second and he came up with something about, let's put the word Swampy in the name. 36 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:32,300 And so we just kind of started juggling names and I just landed upon that one. 37 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:36,800 And then you and I got together and I was like, well, this is right time. 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,300 The university is telling me something. 39 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:43,800 I was just speaking with Todd about how we should start this group and try to get some momentum moving forward. 40 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,300 And then you just came in right time out of nowhere and you were like that extra little push. 41 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:50,300 I was like, yeah, dude, give it a shot. 42 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:51,300 And here we are. 43 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:52,800 115 members in Creepin. 44 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,300 It's been like three weeks. 45 00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:56,300 It's wild. 46 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:58,300 Wild. 47 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,300 That group is taking off, man. 48 00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:08,300 I'm really happy to be a part of it, to say that I was a part of it because that's, you know, 49 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:15,300 something different about the Facebook mushroom groups compared to all the other groups, right? 50 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:17,300 There's just something a little bit different. 51 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:20,300 The community is a little bit stronger. 52 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:28,300 You kind of have a little bit more, you connect a lot more with people just because of the nature of, you know, 53 00:03:28,300 --> 00:03:35,300 the nature of the mushroom, you know, the nature of everything. 54 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:39,300 No, but I think it's really cool, man. 55 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:43,300 I'm really, really happy that we kind of came together to do this. 56 00:03:43,300 --> 00:03:47,300 You know, it's, it is, I think this is going to change. 57 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:49,300 I think this is going to change some people's lives. 58 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:50,300 Really? 59 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:51,300 I should hook so. 60 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:52,300 Yeah. 61 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:57,300 I mean, that's the goal at the end of it, not only just to have fun along the way, but to actually have some meaning to it. 62 00:03:57,300 --> 00:03:59,300 For sure. 63 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:00,300 Yeah. 64 00:04:00,300 --> 00:04:01,300 Not just tripping. 65 00:04:01,300 --> 00:04:04,300 There's got to be, there's got to be some, some meaning at some point. 66 00:04:04,300 --> 00:04:06,300 You got to learn some things along the way. 67 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:07,300 Otherwise, what are you doing? 68 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:08,300 Hmm. 69 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:20,300 Oh, today we were going to talk a little bit about Maria Sabina and I've had a couple of requests in the community to kind of talk about her and the impact she had in western medicine, 70 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:33,300 western civilization, because a lot of people are unaware Maria Sabina was actually credited for introducing mushroom medicine to western pop culture. 71 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:46,300 Basically, celebrities from all over the world would come and get these shamanic rituals by Maria Sabina. 72 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:49,300 And, you know, it really took off. 73 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:59,300 A lot of people look up to her, praise her for her impact on what is now mushroom medicine. 74 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:01,300 My question though. 75 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:04,300 How do you feel about Maria Sabina? 76 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:09,300 Um, I mean, first off, you got to give credit where it's due. 77 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:12,300 She, she put it on the map more or less. 78 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:24,300 Of course, there were people before her doing it, but like you said, like you mentioned, she got the pop culture involved and that's what really made it explode and take off the way that it did. 79 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:39,300 And sadly, that's, that's the reason why she was shunned by her communities because now she's taken this medicine, this religion, if you will, and bestowed it upon these white men that that now she's saying she's losing her wisdom. 80 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:42,300 She's losing her powers that she once had. 81 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:44,300 So people are casting her out. 82 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:47,300 The, the Americans, the white man, they're coming in. 83 00:05:47,300 --> 00:05:52,300 They're just taking all the mushrooms, all the sacred children or whatever the knowledge that you would call it. 84 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:55,300 So I think she's, she's absolutely a pioneer. 85 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:57,300 Do I think she's a little kooky? 86 00:05:57,300 --> 00:05:58,300 I think you and I talked about this. 87 00:05:58,300 --> 00:06:07,300 You kind of have to be, if you're going to have that sort of vocation, but I would do one of those rituals for sure. 88 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:11,300 Just if nothing else to say, I had that experience, you know, you got to, you got to be a part of it. 89 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:12,300 Hmm. 90 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:13,300 For sure. 91 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:16,300 I think, I think she's an absolute legend really. 92 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:17,300 Right. 93 00:06:17,300 --> 00:06:32,300 There are, there are two ways to go and I've had people in the community send me videos and I've had, you know, I've had my education, my Facebook education from some of the people in the community. 94 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:45,300 And I wanted to get your take on this a little bit because there's this ideology in the mushroom community or the Facebook mushroom community that mushrooms shouldn't be sold. 95 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:47,300 You know, there's two ways to look at it. 96 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:48,300 Right. 97 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:50,300 Mushrooms shouldn't be sold. 98 00:06:50,300 --> 00:06:52,300 You know, it's a religion, right? 99 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:55,300 It should be available to anybody whenever they want it. 100 00:06:55,300 --> 00:07:10,300 And then there are the people who believe in mushroom medicine and with mushroom medicine on the rise, it leaves people to believe like, what is the future for mushroom medicine? 101 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:13,300 We have these people who believe mushrooms shouldn't be sold. 102 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:18,300 You know, there, obviously people have found ways around that. 103 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:19,300 Right. 104 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:21,300 You know, okay, we want to sell the mushrooms. 105 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:22,300 We'll sell the genetics. 106 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:23,300 Right. 107 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:25,300 How do you feel about that? 108 00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:32,300 I feel like nothing in life is free. 109 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:38,300 You know, and just because you're selling, I don't, I guess it just comes with a stigma. 110 00:07:38,300 --> 00:07:40,300 It depends on the person. 111 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:45,300 Do I think that marijuana is harmful or should be legal in any way? 112 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:46,300 Absolutely not. 113 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:49,300 So it's really, I guess, all your perspective. 114 00:07:49,300 --> 00:08:00,300 My perspective is if people can use this as a way to not only help people, but also to put food on the table for their family, they're not bothering you. 115 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:01,300 Let them do it. 116 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:02,300 Right. 117 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:13,300 I mean, it's like for, for mushroom medicine to be able to get the respect that it needs, it has to have some type of value to it. 118 00:08:13,300 --> 00:08:14,300 Right. 119 00:08:14,300 --> 00:08:20,300 I mean, we can't just be handing out, you know, mushroom medicine to everybody for free. 120 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:24,300 And I'm going to say it because I'm in Michigan. 121 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:25,300 You're in Florida, right? 122 00:08:25,300 --> 00:08:26,300 Obviously. 123 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:27,300 Right. 124 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:30,300 So you're, how is the, how is the marijuana legalization in your state? 125 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:32,300 Like you guys are pretty free, right? 126 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:34,300 Prescription, prescription only. 127 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:40,300 So my fiance, her stepfather is actually battling for the second time lung cancer. 128 00:08:40,300 --> 00:08:42,300 So he now has his, his card. 129 00:08:42,300 --> 00:08:44,300 And so for those people, it's, it's amazing. 130 00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:45,300 It's a beautiful thing. 131 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:51,300 We don't have it recreational yet, but it's moving in a positive direction. 132 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:58,300 I'd say anywhere that where they're taking steps forward, especially like medicinally first. 133 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:00,300 I'm just trying to be as patient as I can. 134 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:06,300 I'm just excited for what may come because again, I think there's a stigma on it that shouldn't be. 135 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:13,300 If you came up here to Michigan, I'm telling you, you would be blown away at the dispensaries 136 00:09:13,300 --> 00:09:17,300 and how wreck is and how blown away. 137 00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:23,300 I can't believe I go in there and I, I still am an utter belief, like utter disbelief of, 138 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:26,300 of how I'm, how everything is transpired. 139 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:28,300 Like it's candy land. 140 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:30,300 It literally is like candy land. 141 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:32,300 I mean, you're 21. 142 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:34,300 You can walk right in, get whatever you want. 143 00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:36,300 You can have it delivered to you. 144 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:37,300 You know what I mean? 145 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:47,300 You can, there are people have to understand this part of the story of me and Sam meeting because me and Sam, we met on Facebook. 146 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:48,300 Facebook. 147 00:09:48,300 --> 00:09:57,300 I had no idea what Sam looked like. Sam had a picture from Mike, Mike, Mike Zowski from Monsters, Inc. 148 00:09:57,300 --> 00:09:58,300 Yeah. 149 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:07,300 After things started to get serious, Sam kind of dropped a bomb on me about some of his struggles. 150 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:17,300 And I thought that it was really important that we kind of touch upon that subject since we're here. 151 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:21,300 Sam is a transitioning from female to male. 152 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:26,300 Because a little misunderstood, in my opinion. 153 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:27,300 It's controversial. 154 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:28,300 Yeah. 155 00:10:28,300 --> 00:10:39,300 It's misunderstood because there are, there's a lot of, you know, there's just a lot of negativity and the media blows things up and it gives, you know, I can give it a bad rap here and there. 156 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:42,300 There's not a lot of people who are very accepting of the situation. 157 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:50,300 So tell me a little bit more about your transition. Obviously, you know, your name, you know, your, your government name is Amanda. 158 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:52,300 Well, here we are as Sam. 159 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:54,300 So tell me about Sam. 160 00:10:54,300 --> 00:11:00,300 So I guess I'll just start with the story of how I even got the name Sam. 161 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:05,300 It was just, it was bestowed upon me before, long before I ever came out as trans. 162 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:08,300 I came out as gay at 18. 163 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:12,300 Although a certain part of me still felt that that wasn't quite right. 164 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:17,300 But I think I wasn't ready to accept myself on that level until that point. 165 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:22,300 I was raised in a very religious family that outstretched. 166 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:31,300 And I also thought, you know, maybe if I just give it time, maybe this is something that I can just keep down and it's not, it's not something you keep down. 167 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:38,300 So I battled with it. I came out as gay at 18 and it stayed that way until I was about 25. 168 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:42,300 A lot of things that happened. Let me go back to the name Sam. I'll get to that. 169 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:49,300 So Sam, I was, I was 18, 19 years old, working at a fast food chain called Firehouse Subs. 170 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:54,300 And I had some really cool friends in there, this guy Tony, my boss, Keith. 171 00:11:54,300 --> 00:12:01,300 And I had long hair back then, long curly blonde hair and I would pull it back in a bun and put a hat on. 172 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:05,300 And, you know, I was a little slimmer then so there wasn't a whole lot going on up here. 173 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:11,300 So I would walk people's food out to them and their reaction instantly was always, oh, thank you, sir. 174 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:19,300 Ma'am, I'm so sorry. So it's just this awkward moment that just became like a regular part of my life and kind of became like an inside joke with the group. 175 00:12:19,300 --> 00:12:24,300 And one day it happened and I walked to the back and I said, it happened again, boys. 176 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:41,300 And they're like, huh, sir, ma'am, Sam. And from that point forward, the name Sam just stuck to the point where the people that I worked with at that place and their extended family all knew my name is Sam and nobody even remembered that my original birth given name was actually Amanda. 177 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:57,300 So I just rocked with it. And then, you know, so I came out at 18 and then a few years went by, some, a lot of things that happened in my life that brought me to this point of, you know, I started to self harm and things and I was just ready to give up and be at the end of my ropes there. 178 00:12:57,300 --> 00:13:10,300 And alcohol was a huge part of that. And something had to give and I don't know what happened. I just woke up one morning and my significant other at the time was at work and I, something just happened in my brain. 179 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:27,300 And I was like, this is it. Like, either I come out with my full truth of what I feel is right for me. And I live this way or it's this is it for me. So I did it. And within a month, I cut all my hair off. 180 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:50,300 I mean, down to my waist long hair. And, and I will still always continue to say that from that day forward, whenever I decided to live my truth is whenever I actually truly started to live, because I was no longer trying to be careful about what I presented to this person or that person and what I said or are they going to be uncomfortable just because of who I am. 181 00:13:50,300 --> 00:14:05,300 I got to a point where I was like, it's killing me to live for other people. It's time to live for me. Oh, here I am now here I am now. I'm 32. And I've been on testosterone eight months now, going on nine. 182 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:23,300 So, you know, I got a little bit of something going on here, the voice is deepening things are changing. And it's making me really excited for the first time in my life, I can actually visualize myself growing old. And that's something that's so strange to say. And I don't know if that's something everyone else thinks about. 183 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:36,300 But I, until a few years ago, I never envisioned myself growing old and gray, like it just never was a thing that I thought would happen for me. So, I'm really happy with the way things are moving. 184 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:44,300 Personally, like, even I want to know like what, what has been the hardest part of you transitioning. 185 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:58,300 And I know it's funny you mentioned that, because it's little things, you know, that's that someone who doesn't live this, this lifestyle may not even think about but it's the little things like, for instance, yesterday, I was at work. 186 00:14:58,300 --> 00:15:10,300 I've been doing some side work with a friend of mine who owns a cleaning business. And they said, do you want to go to to famous sandwiches and go get some lunch and was like, hell yeah, you know, I love that joint I used to work there let's go. 187 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:16,300 And so we roll up and she pulls in the parking lot into a parking space I was like, hold on, you're trying to go inside. 188 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:28,300 She's like, yeah, you don't want to and I was like, no, bro, they call me Amanda in there. And that's not something that I think I'm ready to deal with. I just I can't handle it. 189 00:15:28,300 --> 00:15:41,300 It's those little situations like that or whenever you're having a really good day and you know you're feeling super masculine or you're like man I'm going to pass today I'm going to pass today and then you walk in somewhere and they're like oh excuse me ma'am. 190 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:57,300 And it's like, here we go again. All right, we're just going to keep trucking. So it's the little things really this because they stack, you know and then it doesn't seem like much but then later on when things are quiet and you're alone they they're still there and they kind of eat at you a little bit. 191 00:15:57,300 --> 00:16:03,300 So you kind of learn to brush it off and remember it won't always be this way. 192 00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:15,300 So for you're very mentally tough, I will give you I will definitely give you kudos to that because this definitely people go through their whole life suffering through stuff like that. 193 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:23,300 And they'll never have you know they never have the courage to actually come out and present themselves to the world that way the way that they see themselves. 194 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:42,300 And it makes me a little bit of emotional too because there's a lot of people can can identify to certain aspects of what you're talking about obviously not completely but you know a lot of you know there's a lot that can be taken from your story you know and applied to the basic ass person. 195 00:16:42,300 --> 00:16:58,300 Yeah, right. Yeah, for sure. For sure. It's definitely an uphill battle but you know people say that people like me are strong for being able to say this and and be okay with it but honestly like it was killing me I didn't I feel like if anything it's been the easiest thing I've ever done because 196 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:13,300 the wait the secret was just killing me. And so I don't know how people are out there my age or twice my age still living that way. I would never have made it. Honestly, so I feel for those people. 197 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:23,300 And I hope that they find that that situation where they're comfortable to just be themselves and fuck anybody who doesn't care to understand it. 198 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:39,300 Try. Right. I 100% agree with you man. It's a very, it's a very, it's a very touchy subject and that's why. And that's why I say you know I give you props for talking about it because it's it is just it's very touchy. 199 00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:44,300 Talk about some things you got going on right now talk about it. Talk about a deal you got going on right now. 200 00:17:44,300 --> 00:18:01,300 Okay, so right now actually. So I have the 90 millimeter a few of the 90 millimeter colonized plates I've been trying to get them gone for $15 $20 but at the end of the day I sit back and thinking about it I'm like, I remember when I first started and I didn't want to put that kind of money into something 201 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:18,300 that shouldn't be more than a $10 product. So I'm going to start selling those things for like 10 bucks a piece. I'm also also going to and for happening considering and will very likely start to make some beginner kits where you get like a little six 202 00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:36,300 to six port tote you get a pound or two a spawn a genetic or you can pay you know an additional $5 per pound per pound fee and I'll go ahead and inoculate it so whenever you get it you just mix it together and set it and forget it and then two weeks maybe you got some babies. 203 00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:45,300 So really this is my little lab here and this is where I do work. Yes. Yeah shows for the magic happen from 204 00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:53,300 this is my little bro I just had to move everything back in here because I had it all all over my desk. 205 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:56,300 I'm thinking about. 206 00:18:56,300 --> 00:19:03,300 Let's say that again. That's looking good. You got it all like you professionally set up and shit. 207 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:19,300 Yeah and this is actually I got a little crazy over the last week or two and I was like and I got all these genetics all these plates they really need to touch some grain so those might be up for grabs soon because let's be honest I don't have enough buckets. 208 00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:23,300 I got all these that are about ready to go into a bucket. 209 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:24,300 Nice. 210 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:25,300 Yeah. 211 00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:27,300 It's just a lot going on. 212 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,300 I got stuff everywhere. 213 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:32,300 And I need you guys to pick it up because otherwise I'm gonna have to trash it. 214 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:35,300 No we're definitely not gonna let that happen. 215 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:37,300 I'm not gonna let that happen. 216 00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:45,300 What is your what has been your favorite string to grow so far. 217 00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:49,300 Which one's looking which one's looking the best to you. 218 00:19:49,300 --> 00:20:01,300 So the prettiest one I think I've grown so far was that 8338 just because I'm partial though to the albinos with the blue hues I don't know what it is but ever since that I think probably the blue ghost 219 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:15,300 was the first first mushroom that ever really caught my eye when I first started into this and then I just continued down that path so I try to get anything albino that turns blue and that one was a pretty one. 220 00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:22,300 Six quarter that six courts almost got 200 wet grams out of it so one pint. 221 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:23,300 Wow. 222 00:20:23,300 --> 00:20:33,300 Yeah the BK Matt was fun that one only produced one big guy but it was 85 grams and now I got a second flush running with a lot more than one in it so. 223 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:34,300 No. 224 00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:41,300 No second flushes I've seen and can still they can still produce quite a bit. 225 00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:48,300 Yeah usually the second flushes where they get the biggest so if that one that big one was on the first flush. 226 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:52,300 I'm excited man I'm excited. 227 00:20:52,300 --> 00:21:05,300 I was going to say you know we got to shout out our originals the people that are always there and always keeping the conversation going and moving they're never letting things get stale and they always have something valuable to throw in so we got the gingerbread man. 228 00:21:05,300 --> 00:21:09,300 Love that guy he's funny and then we got Brady made him. 229 00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:11,300 He just won our giveaway. 230 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:33,300 He should be getting my half of that soon and then Neil White he's our other moderator that guy I've gotten a good portion of my genetics from him from trades and he's bought several from me so and and his or his team to be tub fillers and so if you have any questions about his genetics he can tell you exactly how to set it up to get you a full canopy on that one. 231 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:37,300 Other than that we got Todd I also get a lot of genes from him. 232 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:47,300 He buys a lot of product from me so super cool people if you guys have any questions never feel never feel worried to reach out don't ever feel stupid for asking anything we're just a bunch of dummies here. 233 00:21:47,300 --> 00:22:08,300 Next week I interview Laura Khalil from Khalil Family Wellness we talk about addiction and more.