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Welcome back to the Thick AF Podcast. We're here with part two of our Love is Blind special.

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This is again, this is Emily. Hey y'all, it's Sarah. We are happy to be here. Very happy

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to be talking about Love is Blind. Yeah, so we've got some extra stuff for the Love is

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Blind, the part two of the Love is Blind release. So like the fifth, sixth, wait, sixth, seventh

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and eighth episodes of Love is Blind season five, right? Four. Season four. So, but first,

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but first, FMK. And this time it's going to be much less lame than last week. I apologize

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everybody. Oh my gosh. It wasn't lame because nobody cares about fruit. Yes, they do. Well,

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this one's not that exciting either, but Netflix, Hulu or Prime Video. What do you think? So

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I am actually going to struggle with this one a little bit because I am currently watching

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Daisy Jones in the six. What is that? It is a based on a book. My sister has read the

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book and she told me about it last summer when she was at home at Christmas. I can't

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remember but she said it's really good and I think that it is supposed to be like loosely

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based on Fleetwood Mac. So it's a series. And which one is it on? It's on Prime. Okay.

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Yeah. And also The Summer I Turned Pretty is on Prime and I really liked both of those

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shows but I don't really, and The Marvelous Miss Maisel. Oh shoot. I haven't watched that

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one yet but I struggle. I am marrying Netflix because that's just my life and Love is Blind

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is on there and Perfect Match and all these other Netflix original shows. So I got to

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marry Netflix. And I don't know, Letter Cane is on Hulu, but again, I haven't dug into

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Prime Video that much. Same. I feel like Prime Video is getting better. Yes. I would agree

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especially and I feel like they have some really good shows but then I feel like sometimes

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I get on there and I'll watch the really good shows and then I'm done and I'll have nothing

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else to watch. Agree. But Hulu, well, I feel like Netflix is better at having new releases

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more often. I also think that Hulu is not super navigation friendly and other people

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may disagree with me but I'm not the biggest fan. Also, I think that there is a ghost living

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inside of my Hulu because there are continue watching shows on there that I've never clicked

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on before. That would be your Brandon or your Melanie. Well, they're not shows that Brandon

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would watch so I don't think that it's them. Maybe it's somebody at Melanie's house. Melanie

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and I have our own accounts in Hulu. I know but what if somebody got in your account from

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Melanie's house, like clicked on Sarah instead of... Nobody's there at Melanie's. How do

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you know? I know that nobody's at Melanie's house. What if she has a friend over there

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and they got on there and like, I mean, you don't know that she doesn't have friends come

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over. Oh my gosh. She's like, no, I know. I have a camera in there. I'm watching her.

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Are you sure she doesn't have like a dude coming over and hanging out? I'm really sure

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of that. Okay. But she doesn't have friends that come over and hang out? No. I've seen

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her have snaps of friends over there. Yeah. Me. Doing the bop it. Not you. Other people.

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No you haven't. Yes I have. That is literally a lie. No it's not. I've seen it and I've

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sent her messages. Her sister maybe. No. I guarantee you if we called Melanie right now

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and I asked her if she's ever had any friends at her house outside of me and Kelly and Victoria,

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the answer would be no. Okay. Well maybe she said that to you because she doesn't want

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you to be jealous. Cause I honestly, I feel like if... I feel like you would be like,

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no you wouldn't. But you might, you could potentially, you have the potential to be

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like Shelby, Micah's friend. Oh my gosh. In Love is Blind with Melanie if she were to

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get married. You're coming with daggers today. And I don't like it. Why? Because I said that

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was the only dagger that I had. No. What was the other dagger? The pool. The pool? The

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drowning situation. That wasn't the pool, that was a lake. And listen, we're going to delete

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that unless you want me to keep it. Like I didn't know it was a secret. I thought it was a funny

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thing. I don't know. No, Melanie does not have any friends over. I think there is somebody else who

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throughout the years got our Hulu password and they are watching my Hulu and lying about it.

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Okay. Well that's... So anyways, I'm fucking Hulu and killing Prime Video. Okay. Same for me.

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But okay. So I kind of... Netflix has been my old faithful for the longest time. I used to not have

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Hulu. I've always had Prime, but they weren't always that great. I did. I don't know. There's

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some things on there. I don't really get on it anymore unless somebody mentions, like you just

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mentioned that there's one on there that I might want to watch. I don't really get on there. So

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I'm going to kill it. Even though I literally have like Amazon everything. So like Prime, everything

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in my house. Like I have like Amazon Prime. I have like all the Alexa devices. I have like the Ring

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security system. Like I have like literally everything that you could think of that's Amazon.

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I love you, Amazon. Thank you for all the things that I have. But I'm going to kill Prime Video.

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I'm going to... And I'm going to... What did I say? I'm marrying Netflix. Fucking Hulu. I do like Hulu.

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I don't like the fact that like you said, it's not easy to navigate, but I see you smiling

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over there and texting. I don't know who you texting. You know who I'm texting. Are you texting

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Melanie because you think she's had other friends over? Yeah. Oh my God. She has. Like there was

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some girl over there that had like short hair or something. I was like, who's that? She told me it

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was, it was in a Snapchat. I don't know. It was a while back. I'm telling you, there's been other

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people over there. Okay. It's probably her mom or her sister. It wasn't her mom. It was a young girl

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like our age. Anyways. So I said, maybe you have a boy there. She said, tell her I have several and

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we're eating cheese toast. Ew, cheese toast. Couldn't it... That's gross to eat with a boy.

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Yes it is. To eat cheese toast, you need to eat... Tell her to eat some strawberries or like whipped

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cream or I don't know, oysters. Okay. She said, just start making shit up. It's what I always do.

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Oh my God. So with me, why... She was probably lying to you. No, she... There was literally a video.

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Maybe it was like a fake person in her house or the ghost. It was her friendly ghost, Casper.

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Okay. So are you going to listen to my FMK? So I'm prime. I'm killing. Okay. Netflix and Mary.

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You said we're doing the same thing. But Hulu. I know, but I'm telling you why. Hulu. I'm saying,

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you said it was not easy to navigate. She doesn't listen to me guys. This is why I have to talk so

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much. So same in my whole family. My family does this too. We have prime. When you pull... I mean,

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Hulu, when you turn on the thing, you know, like on Netflix, you turn it, you put it on and it

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starts playing like the trailer or the beginning of it. Either the trailer or the beginning or

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whatever. And the sound's on. Well, on Hulu, it starts playing it, but there's no sound. You have

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to click on it. And then you have to click on it. But then it's like, I've already missed the first

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two minutes because my thing, my cursor was, or my thing wasn't in the right spot. I have ours to not

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play the previews on Netflix. We turned it off. Oh, I like it. I love that. That's my favorite part

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because I go through and I'm like, watch that preview and I'm like, oh, this is boring for the

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first couple of seconds. And then I switched the next one. No, I'll watch the actual trailer.

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Oh, well, I mean, I do that too. If the thing that the preview thing that comes up looks good.

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Oh, okay. So there's a thing on Netflix. I know we have like time up, but like there's a thing on

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Netflix that I saw yesterday. It said new and it's got Jennifer Lawrence. It has Bradley Cooper,

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but it said new on Netflix and it was filmed apparently in 2013. I feel like I know what

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you're talking about. I put it on here. Hang on. I'm going to tell you. Yeah. Tell me what it's

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called because I think I watched a preview for it the other day and I was like, I really want to get

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into this, but I just don't know if I can. I'm pulling it up right here. Netflix should be the

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first one. Nope. That's not it. It's called American Hustle. Oh, it says new. I've seen that,

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but it says, well, it may be new to Netflix. Yeah. But I'm like, I was like, oh, this looks new. I've

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never heard of it. Yeah. You have seen it. Is it good? Uh huh. It looks really good.

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Okay. Got to turn this off. So, uh, so yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Anyway, we're going to get

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into that, uh, the rest of this, uh, love is blind gossip talk. Yes. And opinions, at least we have

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somewhere to put our opinions. Yeah. You know, tell us what y'all think. Yeah. Tell us what you

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think. Love you. Thanks. Okay. What about Marshall and Jackie? I have so much to say. Okay.

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Marshall can cook by the way. Um, Marshall is amazing. A king. I love him so much. So do I.

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My favorite. A hundred thousand percent. Jacqueline is a drama queen. He is calm. He is patient.

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He can cook. He's handsome. He's hot. He's nice. He's got those eyes. Oh my gosh. Yes. And you know,

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I thought when she was, you know, pitching her fit or whatever and talking about them, you know,

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not having sex, I thought it was going to be a different reason. Uh huh. And then when that

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came out, I was like, damn. So I don't know. She basically, what I got from that, the whole thing

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was that she wanted him to be, to like throw her around in the bedroom. But like hardcore is what

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it sounds like. Yeah. And, and I think that the way that she's treating him, trying to get in a

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fight with him like that is, is her way to create that. Yeah. And preparation for makeup. Not

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reacting to it. He's not taking the bait. Because he is amazing. I love him. Can you please come

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marry me, Marshall? This is what I wrote down. Okay. I'll read part of it. Let me see. Um, I wrote

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Jacqueline acting like an asshole while she stressed out about meeting Marshall's family. And they were

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so nice. His sister was so nice, but she was being an asshole before all that. Just, I mean, so

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dramatic. And her family isn't on board, you know, with her and Marshall. And I think that she's

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projecting all of her stress and anxiety from that onto him and that relationship and just being

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like, I can't do this, you know, whatever. She freaks out way too much. Real fast. She's like,

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Oh, one little thing. And she's like, I can't talk. Oh, I don't know what to do. Oh my God,

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this is too stressful. I'm like, literally there's no stress on you right now. She's putting so much

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pressure on him. And I think she relies on him for her happiness. And she speaks over him all the

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time. When she told him you're ruining my vibe, when he tried to give her his coat at the party.

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Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. Hold on. You are an asshole. That part was weird. Okay. So that part, I didn't

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like him doing that because I felt like he was doing that because, okay, so Sarah kind of already

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said this, that there were other people at the party and guess who shows up? Old Josh, who was

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the one that told Jacqueline or Jackie that she, that he was going to pay, he had his bags packed

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up. And if it wasn't her, he was going to leave. And then Marshall got pissed off and was like,

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what the hell? Who's talking to my girl? And then Josh was like, Hey, it was me or whatever. Well,

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I thought Josh was cool in the beginning. And I was like, Oh, Josh said this stuff. And you said

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something. This is on our last one. We talked about this. You were like, no, Josh sucks. And then I

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saw this episode and I was like, Oh my gosh, Josh, what the hell? Marshall doesn't deserve to be

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treated the way that she's treating him. And I think that she, and maybe I wasn't like reading

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enough because I was just so mad at her and her behavior that maybe the coat thing was a little

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aggressive on Marshall's part. I thought it was weird. I think he was trying to cover her up

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because of, because Josh was there. Yeah, maybe he was, but also she wasn't even really that

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like uncovered. No, she really wasn't. They were inside. He was like, you're going to catch a cold.

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And I was like, no, she's not. She's going to be fine. I think he was just trying to be sweet and

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it, you know, obviously wasn't received very well by her, but when he does anything,

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it's not received well aside from cooking her food. Yeah, I guess. Well, so back to when they

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were meeting the parents, I said, I was, my thing is Marshall's sister. Yeah. I was like,

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Jacqueline trying to meet the parents is a lot. She is like ruining things. Yeah. And then what

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the hell's up with her family that makes her so crazy. Like, I don't understand. Like in the,

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in the first couple of episodes, she had that breakdown, that anxiety attack. Like, yeah. And

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she was like, Oh, my family, my family, whatever. And then she said her mom's not happy that she

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did the experiment. And then she was in a whole mood when they came to visit. Like I don't,

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do we still haven't learned why her family makes her so crazy. We may not. What the hell's, I mean,

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like, I don't know. They haven't said anything about it. No. Like this. And she said, like in

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the first couple of episodes, when she had that panic panic attack on the honeymoon or whatever,

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she was like, I have to go back to my family. I have to go back to this. And like, what are

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you going back to? Like, is she taking care of her family or something? Like, does she financially

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support them? I don't really understand. It's kind of weird. And I don't know. I just don't have the

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patience for it. You're grown. You're in your late twenties. Figure it out. Yeah. And go grab some

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therapy. Yeah. Marsha was way more relaxed and obviously more stable mentally than Jackie. And I

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don't think, I don't think they're going to work out because he fully acknowledges when she tries

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to pull him into the toxicity and he's not letting it happen and props to him for that. And maybe

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they will work out because he is so good at like handling her. Cause that could be a thing that she

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needs. She needs somebody like him, but she's going to have to do some work. I think probably

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what she aches for is somebody who is stability for her, but she is pushing every button that he

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has in order to get to that point. And that could be what pushes him away. Like there's only so much

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that somebody like Marshall, who's in that position of providing stability for somebody else can take

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before they're just like, screw it. Like I don't want to do this. Oh yeah, for sure. And when she

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was like, Oh, you need a boss up. She said he needed a boss up and that he's not a man and he's not

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doing romance stuff. So he left, but then she packed her stuff. Yeah. And she was bitching at him for

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leaving and all. I mean, she was like, I'm not playing games with you. Sorry. I didn't mean that.

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Yeah. No, I mean, I get why he did that. Like take a beat, take some space. It doesn't, I mean, I

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understand what she's saying at the same time that, you know, she feels like he's running away, but I

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guarantee you that that conversation between the two of them that got him to the point of needing

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to leave was circles of her same bullshit over and over and over. Right. And he's, I mean, when, how

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long do you sit around and do that? Because if you expect somebody to do that for, you know, two days

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with you, you're crazy. Yeah. And then she came back and basically gas lit him and was like,

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absolutely. I'm not playing this game with you. When she was packing her bag, she's like, I'm not

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playing games with you. Also Michael, who's playing the games. You are the one playing the game. She

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is. Cause she was packing her shit up as soon as he got back and he gave her a heads up when he was

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coming back. And so she knew him. So she just turns on the drama and I don't like that. It's like she

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wants him to show that. Yeah. Yeah. And he wants to be like, Hey, no, I want you. I want you so bad.

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Blah, blah, blah. But he's, he's also telling her, I love you. And she doesn't say that back to him.

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She is holding that out and not giving him what he's giving her. How can you bitch at somebody

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and you're not getting enough from them, whether it be sexually, emotionally, whatever, but you're

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also not giving. Yeah. You don't deserve it. If you're, if you're both, you know, giving,

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then it's one thing you're going to have a fuss about it, you know, whatever. But if you're going

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to sit there and not give and just take, take, take, take, take, nah. Yeah. I mean, sometimes,

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so I think he said he was like, said something about how he does all these things and she doesn't

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do anything that make him feel special. Um, and I, I see that and I can, I understand, I get that

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because like there are a lot of females and I'm not trying to, I'm not just trying to call out the

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girls, like call out us because I'm, I'm on team, team ladies, but like a lot of us, sometimes we

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think that the guy's supposed to do everything, but like, we don't return the favor to them.

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Does that make sense? Like we ask, we ask and we ask and we ask for all these things. And then like,

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and it's vice versa, it could be for guys too. There's some guys that think that the girl should

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do everything. Yeah. But like, you can't do that. You have to, it has, nobody's going to stick around.

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I mean, some people might cause they crazy, but nobody's going to stick around for somebody who's

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not giving anything back. No, you gotta be in the middle for sure. Um, oh, but then hold on. So he

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said at one point he said he saw, he sees her as a project. She was like, well, why did you match

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with me? He saw her as a project. Did you see that? And I don't think that's what he meant, even though

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that's what came out of his mouth. I think that he was angry in that moment. And that's what he used

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to say. But I think what he meant was he sees potential for her to be a great partner for him.

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Right. Yeah. I get that. Jackie's too much drama. I love Marshall. Um, she wants the wrong kind of

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attention. Absolutely. Um, I hate that people, when people just pick fights to make sure the other

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person's still in it. Oh my God. It makes me crazy. I don't understand that. Okay. So

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I, in my notes, I have, Oh, go ahead. I have a OMG. Did Marshall just make Jackie put his coat on?

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Because Josh is there at Chelsea's birthday party. Was it Chelsea's birthday party? Yeah. And I was

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like, wow. He said, put this on, you're not about to catch a cold. And then I said, OMG, Jackie wants

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Josh. Cause like, I think she would in a heartbeat leave Marshall because Josh would give her that

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toxic relationship that she is very clearly craving. But literally everybody at that party was like,

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why is he even here? Oh my God. It was so great. I was like, he was wasted face. Oh, absolutely.

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It was embarrassing for him. So embarrassing. Oh my God. He was talking crap about Marshall.

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Um, and you know what? Marshall was so PC and like so nice. He was just like, so as I put in my notes,

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I want to marry him. And then I put period and Paul. So, but like Marshall, Josh went up to Marshall

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and was like, man, don't be mad at me. Remember that? And he was like, wasted. Cause come trust

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you girl, you girl. And I'm like, steal your girl. I don't know if that came out right. But like,

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it was crazy. It was wild. I've never seen anything like it. And Marshall turned around after he left.

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And he was like, what just happened? I mean, it was nuts. Can we talk about Brett and Tiffany next?

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I want to leave Mike on Paul for last. Yes. Let me get to the Bretts and Tiffany's in my notes.

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I didn't take any notes, but I, um, I saw a couple of memes today, so it kept me fresh. I also watched

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this on Sunday, so it hasn't been too long, but they are so cute. She had me freaking out that she

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was going to drop that Dutch oven. I about died. And then she just laughed afterwards. I would have

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been like, Oh, I would have had like anxiety like, Oh, I would have been like, somebody else come get

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this. She's very giggly. And I do like that like fun spirit about her, but Brett does. I wonder if

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her calling him bougie Brett is going to get on his nerves eventually, because I guess it's one of

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those things that I think that Jessica, if she were here, she would back me up about this. If you have

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like the means and to spend money on something, then absolutely it, you know, it doesn't necessarily

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make you bougie, but I think if people continuously call you that it's going to be aggravating. Well,

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I just wonder if she brought that up because maybe she saw something that made it look seem to her

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that maybe he was spending his money on things that he shouldn't be spending his money on.

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He shouldn't be spending them on and not on other things. Like when she said something about like

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how she was like, I'm okay with you spending that money as long as you pay the bills. And I'm like,

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I get that. Like as long as you can take care of yourself, but there's some people that will go out

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and buy these things. Like he said, he, you know, bought expensive luggage and that's what he called

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it. He puts his luggage on the bed. Probably. Yeah, probably so. I mean, yeah, probably. But she,

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at first, before they started talking about all that, she was like, Brett said he was a simple

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person and she was like, um, no, you aren't. Which I think is fair. Yeah. But like, it's funny that

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he thought he was a simple person, but cause, and I don't know, I don't, I don't really know. I feel

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like we haven't dug into him much. No, I don't feel like I know a whole lot about either one of them.

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Same. Just I think because there isn't drama surrounding the relationship, they, it's hard

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for the cameras to kind of dig in. I mean, they've had a few, you know, I wouldn't even call that last

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conversation a tough conversation. I mean, they, you know, pretty much agreed to, you know, not

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necessarily, you know, split bills. They don't want to pay each other for a mortgage, you know,

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via Venmo and you know, that's for real. Like that's legit conversations you have to have.

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Absolutely. Like who's going to pay for this? I mean, we still don't know much about him. Other

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than that, he likes, you know, his Jordans. That's about it. Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah. Do

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you not remember the shoe boxes? He's got the plastic shoe containers that have the front facing

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flaps that open up and you can get, he can get his J's out of there. Oh, nice. Yeah. I like that.

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She was like, where am I? She's going to go. And he's like, we can get you boxes.

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Yes. Thank you. Buy me some boxes and some, some $1,200 suitcases. Yeah. I don't really have a lot

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of notes about Brett and Tiffany. I think that they're probably going to get married. Yeah.

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When they did that little like picnic situation or whatever, they also, I don't remember exactly

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what was said, but they seem to be on the same page about things. And so I feel confident in them.

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Yeah. So, but also, I'm sorry, one last thing, the previews that it shows for like the altar

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makes it look like Tiffany is hyperventilating and going to say no. So I'm very curious to see how

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that plays out. See, I need to go back and watch those. Okay. So let's, do you have anything else

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about Brett and Jackie? Right now? I don't really have anything. I didn't write anything down. This

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is all just from, yeah, mine was really just like his expense. Call it, she called him, boozy Brett.

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Okay. So Paul and Micah, Paul got one of his couches off the side of the road and he has a

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lot of pocket knives. Like, did you see how many pocket knives he, I mean, like, it's just like

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weird for them to be sitting out on every table. He's a dude. That's, I have pocket knives too,

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but I don't have them like chilling everywhere. It was interesting. And it looks like he lives

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in a frat house or like a dorm. I don't know how old he is. It looks like he moved into like his

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second apartment after college. And like, why would you also, who has two sofas? Like where's

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your chairs? Where are the chairs? Well, see, that's why I think he lives in a frat house.

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Like that, like, and I get it. So a lot of times there are men who in our world are brought up

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that women are the ones that, you know, do everything. And like, they're the ones that

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make the home. And, you know, his house wasn't that dirty or anything, I don't think, but like,

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he obviously took the advice of our society and said, I'm not going to be the one that

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focuses on the house. And he just looks like he lives like, like a frat boy. And it's like,

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maybe his mom probably bought him his, you know, cups and bowls and stuff. I'm sure. I mean,

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because she probably came over and was like, I'll clean your bathtub before your new girlfriend

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comes over because you don't know how to do it. I mean, I don't know. It's one of those things

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where like, I even feel like I can say that, like, I drank out of like plastic cups, you know,

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a lot for a while. And I just started like collecting like nice glassware, but I also

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didn't really have cupboard space before. And I like didn't unpack all my kitchen stuff. So like,

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I had some room to collect new stuff and I'm 35. So like, I'm still getting there. Like I

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just bought pasta bowls for myself for the first time this year. So like,

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what is the difference between a regular bowl and a pasta bowl?

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I don't know, like a big fat, not, not super deep bowl. Like,

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Oh, like, oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Like a restaurant pasta bowl.

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Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. See, I don't have those. Yeah. My mom though. So,

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but I don't have cereal bowls either. Oh, I don't eat cereal. Like regular bowls.

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Like what's the difference? Like the bowls that we had out tonight were cereal bowls for me.

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Oh, I was like, that's a cereal bowl. I was like, I don't know. It's just a bowl to me.

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Like a bowl. I don't call it. I don't eat cereal either, but I eat stuff out of bowls.

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I have salad bowls that like aren't super wide and, but they're also not that deep.

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So what's the difference between a salad bowl and a cereal bowl?

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A cereal bowl comes up much higher. It's deep. So it can hold the milk.

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So there's a, okay. I, yeah, no, I just, a bowl is a bowl to me. I don't know. My mom started giving

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me, which I have been very, very fortunate that my mom did this. And I think that when I was younger,

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I'll probably didn't like appreciate it as much, but she, like for Christmas or like my birthday

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or something, she'll buy me like, like my China that I have, I've gotten that and she's got more

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at her house. So like when I get a bigger place and she has the same China too, because we both

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liked it. And so when I get a bigger place, she'll either pass me hers and the extra that she bought

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me so that I have more. Cause right now I think I only have like eight place settings because I

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don't have a big house and I don't, right. And so that's been really nice. She bought me silverware,

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like white, like crystal glasses, like random stuff like that, that she's done. And it's,

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it's been very helpful to, you know, get things going. And a lot of times people don't have that.

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Yeah. And a lot of times parents don't do that for, cause people don't care about it, stuff like

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that. My mom does, she's kind of old school. She loves that. Like she likes to give me things for

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the kitchen. I'm pretty sure if we went through my kitchen, like legit, like I'm pretty sure like

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most everything she bought for me or like handed down to me. I mean, except for maybe like the

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spatulas that I bought at the dollar store. You know, it's, it's nice. It's nice to have that

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stuff. And I get it. But like his house looks like, honestly, he could have bought a couch by now.

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Right. Like if, if, I don't know, maybe he's got a lot of money saved up. And if he doesn't, then

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that's sad. I don't know. Some people don't spend their money on stuff like that. Yeah. I have dated

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boys where I went to their house and I was like, you want to know what a red flag for me is? Like

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red flag number one, what dirty toilet, Navy blue sheets. Why Navy blue sheets? They just

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reek of like dirty college boys. Yeah. But like, I'm pretty sure like every dude I've known has had

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Navy blue sheets. I don't like Navy blue. Like I would never like, why would you want that dark of

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colored sheets? I don't know. I don't want them. And I don't ever want to sleep on them.

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So, and also if you're in college and you buy Navy blue sheets, you should not do that because

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stains on there show up really well. So you should get white sheets. 100%

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or off white sheets. Yeah, absolutely. Just in case you got a little color in that stain.

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I mean, I don't know. You might be gay. I don't know. I'm gonna take that out.

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Yeah. Don't get Navy blue sheets guys. So, okay. So Paul and Micah, let me see what else we got.

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I thought Micah's parents were so cute. Yeah. Also Paul's mom is literally Micah's

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in like a younger version. Absolutely. Or older version. Yeah. And it's so funny because like,

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how did Paul know? Like that they were gonna, I mean, it's like he's literally marrying his mom.

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Absolutely. Yeah. So we're, okay. So hold on. They started talking about their places where they're

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gonna live. And she said something about Arizona. Yeah. I'm like, does she from, is she from there

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and just move there? And she's like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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Is she from there and just moved there for the show? Like you were trying to get me to do

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in Charlotte or like she's, I mean, like why does she have a place in Arizona?

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I don't know. I couldn't catch that because at one point I thought, I thought it was her that she had

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somebody that lived in Mobile, but I thought it was her too. Oh, was it? But I don't know.

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But then she said when she talked to, I can't remember who it was. I don't know.

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That was her. His mom said that to her. His mom was like, I knew everything about you. We did a

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Google because I'm a paralegal or whatever. And something in Mobile. I think it was like an aunt

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or somebody in Mobile. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I did not get the vibe that her parents were from

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the South. Oh, no. No, not at all. Definitely not. Yeah. And her dad. So at one point her dad's,

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his name's Paul too. Yes it is. Cause at first he was, he said, Oh, I like him. Of course. Cause

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he's Paul. And I was like, what is he talking about? And then later they were like, Paul.

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And I was like, Oh, it's the Paul's name. But her mom said, she said her biggest fear is that

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Micah is going to get her heart broken. And her dad was like, Oh, I never really thought of that,

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but I guess that's a big deal too. Okay. Well, I think it's easy to get caught up in the moment

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of that. Like you're a number one on TV, which is something that they're probably not used to.

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A number one. Sorry. On TV. And then they're being asked these interview questions after they just

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got done meeting this man that their daughter is going to marry. And the immediate, like the whole

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premise of that meeting was just to get to know him and kind of approve or not approve of him.

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You know what I mean? So then to be asked the question, you know, what's your biggest fear of

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what's going to happen? That probably hasn't been thought through yet. But like that to me would be

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the number one fear. What other fear would you have at this point? I mean, he did her dad did say he

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could be a serial killer. Cause then that's, I think that she said that too. Michael was like,

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are you a serial killer with the knives or something? Oh my gosh. Well, so, okay. So back

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to the Arizona thing. So she tried to get him, she was trying to get him to move to Arizona or like

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split time. And then later on she was like, I'm going to move in with him. Right. I did think

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that was strange. So there was obviously a conversation that happened in between. Yeah.

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Either off camera or it got edited out or whatever that we were not privy to because that definitely

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threw me for a loop-de-loop. And I'm so I'm really proud of her for compromising with that, even

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though she hated his place. Like she was like, Oh, I don't think so. And she was like, you know what?

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I'm going to move here. Cause I work remote. Well, I do wonder if maybe that was part of their

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compromise. Obviously we weren't part of that conversation, but maybe he didn't agree to split

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time with her if they moved into his house instead of hers. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's good idea. That

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would be a good thought. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Um, so Micah's friends, I look green dress,

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Shelby is that her name? Shelby. Yeah. What in the world? She has some nerve coming in hot like that.

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And also I think that she just, she must have a thousand insecurities because she's jealous

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too, probably a hundred percent because she was very straight up and like almost boastful that

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she has ended some of Micah's relationships before. If any of my friends ever did that to me, I would

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be pissed. You come to me, we have a one-on-one conversation and we talk about it, but to allow

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your friends to end a relationship, you are also insecure and not able to make decisions on your

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own. Well, and obviously you could tell that she, whenever Shelby, her friend was like saying all

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this stuff and then Paul, I thought he handled it well. He was like, well, I don't really care

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what you think kind of thing. And Shelby was like, excuse me, you don't care. He didn't say anything

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mean at all. He didn't. But also Micah never should have let her go in on him. No. And that's what I'm

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saying. It's like she, when she was like kind of going, exactly. That he was wrong after he said,

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I don't care what you think. I care about what you think. You're my partner. And that is how it

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should be. Right. Well, and I get it. Like I think that he probably would have cared more what that

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other girl thought if she hadn't acted like that. I mean, wouldn't you like at this point, I'm like,

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you know what? You are a little bit ridiculous and I don't really give a hell damn whatever you

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absolutely you think because you suck. If she had come in and nicely explained her concerns or

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whatever, then I think that he would have been able to have a very intellectual conversation with her

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that was level headed and calm. Instead, she just came in like a damn bulldozer acting like she runs

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Micah's life and it seems like Micah lets her. Oh yeah, it does. And so I wrote on here, my last

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comment about them was, is Shelby a lesbian or something and is jealous of Paul? Like maybe

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Shelby has feelings for Micah. And I mean, like this is just a theory. Yeah. And is jealous of him

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or like she's maybe she's afraid of losing her friend. Like, why doesn't she like Paul? Paul has

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not done anything to her. Paul has literally not said, I mean, I don't know what conversations were

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off camera or what, but like he's not even that weird. Like he's super nice. Well, and I, this is

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clearly where Micah gets her mean girl behavior. Oh yeah. Due to her friendships and the other girl

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wasn't that bad at all. Like she seemed to be supportive, you know, whatever. And she didn't

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really, you know, she didn't say much. No, the only thing. Yeah. The only, she did say one thing.

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Basically about like, if you can date Micah, then that's something that other folks haven't really

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been able to do almost as if she was like a difficult person. Yeah. Which I would be upset

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if my friend said that about like during a first meeting anyways. I mean, you would tell Brandon

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that if he texted you tomorrow was like Sarah's being an asshole and you'd be like, well, sometimes

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she's like that, you know, whatever. But like on a first meeting. But Brandon wouldn't do that.

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No, he wouldn't. But you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. The first time that you met him,

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you were not mean to him. Right. No, I was super nice to him because I wanted him to feel

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comfortable. I didn't want him to like, like, obviously if I was jealous of you having a

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boyfriend, then I would have been mean. That's why I think she's jealous. It's just bizarre that

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that's how you decide to show up, you know, and in first impression for, you know, somebody who's

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supposed to be your best friend that you know is going on the show and is quite obviously

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engaged to this human. I mean, unless Paul did something off camera that we didn't see

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that was really terrible, because I can see myself if some guy showed up and was talking shit to you

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and saying stuff, I can probably see myself. It would take a lot. It would take a lot for me to

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say something mean to him. So like Brandon, if he did that, if you showed up, I don't think that

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I don't think that Paul would do that. And I mean, the internet is dragging this girl. Yeah. Like

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it's wild and she deserves every bit of it. And not to say that producers wouldn't let that happen.

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And if Paul did something obnoxious, then we would all know. Right. I mean, they've she's essentially

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a villain at this point, but nobody gives a shit about her because she may show up and sit in the

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audience at the wedding. But like, she's not going to be a part of like everyday, you know, scenes

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that they're shooting. Right. So surely he didn't say anything that was out of grievous. I don't

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know. Poor Paul. He's the best. Well, and then he sat there while I think, and here's the other

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thing that popped out at me. Shelby started crying after that saying, you know, he's not the one for

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you, whatever. No girl, you're crying because you know, you just got embarrassed on national television

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for being a bitch. Or she should be crying. That's why you're crying. Or she should be. Yeah.

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I have a note that says, Zach has the best advice. It's next to my Paul is the best thing. Zach has

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the best advice. I can't remember what they were talking about. But if we go back talking about

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Chelsea's birthday party, like just all the little things that happened because we had Josh show up.

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Okay. And then I think the producers are assholes because they brought him because Marshall and

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Jackie were fighting. Well, they also brought Amber. Yes. Amber showed up. And then they brought

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Michael. And there was zero conversation there. Yeah. And you know, by the end of that party,

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she found out who Paul was and I guarantee you, if she tried to approach him, I bet you he said no.

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So Amber was Paul's second choice. And of course, and Micah immediately when she shows up, Micah is

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like immediately over on him, hanging on him, even though she had been talking to Kwame the whole time.

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Yes, she had again. Yeah. And then Kwame and Micah were talking and Kwame has been talking to

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him. And Kwame has his laugh is the worst. I think you texted me about it too. Didn't you?

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You were like, Oh my God. Was it Josh's laugh? Oh, I was talking about, I thought it was,

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we were talking about Kwame's laugh. Kwame was like, yeah, you respond and said, have you listened

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to Kwame's? It was like, Josh was just like taking over that whole party. I mean, it was just crazy.

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But I mean, I'm trying to think of what else happened that popped out at me at that party.

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I think, well, Irena wasn't there. So we got to talk about Kick Rocks Irena for a second,

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because she also had a meeting with Micah because there was romantic feelings or something.

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She told Irena before they left the honeymoons or whatever. She told, was it Micah? She told Micah

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that she had feelings for Paul, right? Yeah, which was the craziest thing because I don't

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even remember watching them in the pods, like have a conversation at all. No, she didn't. She

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only had feelings for him after she saw him. Right. Which is just crazy. And like, she didn't even

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own anything when Micah was trying to have that conversation with you. She was just like, Irena

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was like, I appreciate you. And I'm so glad that we're friends. It's like, bitch, you've been

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friends with a girl for two weeks. She ain't your real friend. No. And you're crazy trying to go

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after her man when she is the only one who rode for you in that pod house. Oh yeah. The only one.

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And so now Irena has come out and said that she has privately apologized to the people that she

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has wronged. No girl, that's because you have a business and your business is probably being

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affected by your terrible ass behavior on this show. Mean girl shit. I'm interested to see who

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they bring that didn't get matched up onto the reunion. Is it called a reunion? They've got to

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bring Irena. I mean, Irena is going to be on there for sure because obviously. Yeah. And then do you

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think Josh is going to be there? I think Josh is going to be on there. And the only reason why I

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say that is because the previews for the next handful of episodes, he's meeting with Jackie

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again. So like he's popping up again. Well, so, okay. So Josh went over and

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shoot all the girls away from Jackie and was like, let me have a conversation with you.

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And he started saying how, how he felt about her or whatever. Well, he was fumble bumbling through

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his slurry words. He couldn't even tell what he was saying. But Jackie was like, oh, I had no idea

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he felt that way. And I'm like, he was the one that told you he was packing his bags because if

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it wasn't you, like she, I feel like she is playing both sides of the fence. Yeah. She's in

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jaw. Like, listen, Jackie, if you get with Josh, good luck to you, honey. You're going to be broken

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up very soon because he sucks. Well that or else you're going to be in a lifelong toxic ass

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relationship. Right. Marshall, I'll take you. You can move to Seattle. Hell yeah. He can move to

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Alabama if he wants to Birmingham, but I work remote so I can work anywhere. Exactly. It's the

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only thing is the healthcare. I hope he has a good health insurance because my health insurance would

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technically only be able to be in Alabama. Some hole anyways, I think you should slide into his

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DMS. I mean, I'm pretty sure he has lots of girls sliding into it. I'm pretty sure he does too, but

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who's to say that you're not the one he picks. Why are you looking at me like that? She did her

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eyebrows. She's like, she, she always makes these faces at me and nobody can see them except for me

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because why not shoot your shot girl. I mean, what if he's married though? We don't know if he's

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married to Jackie. You have three weeks to slide in the DMS. We need to find, we need to wait for

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like the after the altar after the altar. Yeah. Yeah. And all that stuff. So, okay. Well, thank

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you guys for hanging out with us while we talk about love is blind. We like the gossip. Yeah.

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Sarah lead us out with the, with the deep. Thanks again for joining us. You can find us on

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