Hey y'all, welcome back to the Thicc AF Podcast.
This episode today is Emily's episode.
It's all about the things that she loves.
No, it's not.
It's our episode.
It's always our episode.
She's crazy.
No, I know, but this...
She's trying to...
No, you love this stuff though.
Yeah, we're gonna talk about some personality tests today.
The Enneagram test, which is my personal favorite, and some others here and there, like the Myers-Briggs
personality test, all that kind of stuff.
And the most important one of all, what animal are you?
Exactly.
Yes.
Can't wait to hear.
That was my favorite one.
It was the easiest and the shortest.
Yeah, and it's like only got four to choose from.
And there's really not a lot to describe everything.
No, it's great.
Yep.
All right, y'all.
So we have our FMK, and I don't even know where I got this from.
It actually may have come from you.
We are gonna go ahead and fuck, marry, kill some Kardashians.
Oh, it did come from me.
Okay, I thought so.
That's a good one though, right?
Yeah.
I'm glad you put it in your notes because I would have forgotten.
I did.
So Kim, Khloe, and Kourtney.
Okay, so do I have to go first?
I can go first.
You go first.
Okay.
So as much as I like Kourtney, I think that she is the most entertaining sometimes just
because she's such a dingbat.
Yeah, like monotone.
Monotone, yes.
Um, yes.
The salad is so great, guys.
Yeah, but they could have put a little bit more tomatoes.
Yeah.
So unfortunately for her, I'm killing her.
And then I am going to fuck Kim because who wouldn't?
I want to know if that ass is real or not.
And then I'm going to marry Khloe because she deserves the world after what some of
these men have put her through.
And I will give it to her, honey.
Look, I feel like all of them have been through it with the guys.
Yeah, fair enough.
But Khloe's gotten the short end of the stick.
Yeah, I feel like that's true.
Well, she is, she's, I feel like she's the most real.
Yes.
Yeah.
I don't know if she's the nicest.
I really like Kendall and I wanted to, I wanted, you know how they, I want to take a personality
test that's like which, um, Kardashian Jenner or whatever are you like based on their personalities,
not like based on what's your favorite color?
What's your favorite Disney character?
And then they're like, oh, Kim.
Not the Buzzfeed kind.
Yeah, not the Buzzfeed, like a real one.
Like, because I feel like, I don't know, I feel like what would you be if we were trying
to talk personalities?
Who would you be like, would you be, I think you would be a Kim.
You do.
Yes, because she's very like type A, like, I mean, they kind of all are, but like, I
feel like you would be-
And she organizes her damn cookie jar for crying out loud.
Yeah, probably because she was taught by Kim to do it.
No, I think you would be definitely a Kim because you are like, need, you need your,
like your very, your go-getter.
Yeah, that's fair.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I appreciate you.
And I feel like she's a go-getter, you know?
Yeah.
Also ass and titties.
But hopefully you wouldn't ever do like a, like a sex video accidentally.
Wasn't an accident though?
I don't know.
I mean, honestly, whatever, we won't talk about that because, you know, she shouldn't
be shamed for that.
It's been 20 years.
100%.
Yeah.
Definitely shouldn't be shamed for that.
But also Ray J is a snake.
Ray J. Who is Ray J anyways, anymore?
Yeah.
I know who he is, but like, ew, nobody cares about him anymore.
Look at Kim.
Look what you did to Kim.
You blew her up and she is just like on top of the world.
What the intention was, you know that it was.
Right.
Oh no, it was definitely not.
So like-
She, she and her mama-
Too bad for you.
She just did that and ran with it.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, absolutely.
Yeah.
So I would, so for me, I think that I thought about this the other day and I forgot what
I landed on because it's very hard for me.
I love all of them, but okay.
So I'd probably kill, I don't know, I'd kill Chloe too because, not Chloe, I'm sorry, Courtney.
Too many Ks.
That really just about hurt my feelings.
I know, no, no, no.
I love Chloe.
Actually, I think I'm going to do the same as you because, because Courtney is, is annoying.
I do love watching what's that guy's name that has like, I think he has blonde hair
and he does her impression and it's so good.
He's like on Instagram and TikTok and all the things.
Blonde hair guy?
I think he's blonde hair.
He might change his hair a lot.
Are you talking about the one that was like on the show or whatever with, that's Benny
Drama.
Oh, Benny Drama.
Yeah.
That's who it is.
I love him.
Oh my gosh.
He does her- Perfectly.
Yes.
He is, oh my gosh.
I am so jealous of that.
Like, so good.
And I don't know how she doesn't know that she talks so slow.
She should move to Alabama because she talks way slower than the rest of us.
She would not survive here.
No, she would not.
Oh my God.
I don't know if it's- Can you imagine taking her to like an SEC football game or something
like that?
Yes.
Everybody would murder her or like they not murder her, but they would like, I don't know.
They would be like, yay.
But yeah, so I don't know.
I'd probably not marry Kim because it seems like she gets divorced a lot.
And I feel like after a couple of years, she'd probably pop out a couple of babies and then
get rid of me.
I mean, if you're referencing like what's going on with her and Kanye, I just, I don't
co-sign that theory or whatever because Kanye is fucking crazy.
He is crazy.
He's very crazy.
But she, look, she's been married like a hundred times.
Yeah.
Like four or five, four times.
I think it's four.
Is it four?
Yeah.
So, which I mean, whatever.
You do you, boo boo Kim.
I have no judgment to you.
I think you are doing fabulous.
No.
You're doing way better than me.
So I was going to say we have no room to talk.
Neither one of us have been married.
Well, I'm not talking about marriage either.
I'm just look, but I'm just saying, I think I might kill her because she would probably
kick me to the curb after a couple of years.
And then Chloe, you know, I don't know.
I like her.
I'll do the same as you.
Yeah.
So, all right.
Well, we're going to jump into the Myers-Briggs personality test now, you guys.
So if you haven't heard about the Myers-Briggs, it's a Myers-Briggs type indicator and you
can take this test on like online.
I think that I've always taken it.
It's on 16personalities.com and it's free.
So it's pretty cool.
But I believe there's like a professional one that's like actually like a Myers-Briggs
or something and you have to pay.
I'm not sure.
But every time I've taken it 16personalities.com.
So take your test and you can send us an email and tell us what you think about what we're
talking about and our personalities and maybe yours and things like that.
So there are five personality aspects in the Myers-Briggs type indicator or whatever.
When combined, they define the personality type.
So when you get your results, you'll take your test and it, I don't know how many questions
it is, but you'll take your test and you'll get like a four letter, you'll get a five
letter type.
So the first one is mind and so your mind is how it describes how you interact with
your surroundings.
So you're either an introvert or an extrovert.
So it's an I or an E. So like for yours, what are you?
An E. You're an E. Of course you are.
You're an E. So that, okay.
So you're either an I or an E and if you're an I, you prefer solitary activities and get
exhausted by social interaction and you tend to be quite sensitive to external stimulation,
sound, sight or smell in general.
Doesn't mean you have Asperger's or you're on the spectrum.
Just means that you're like introverted and you're like, that sound is annoying, I guess.
Those people are annoying.
Yeah.
I feel like that a lot, but I know that I'm not an introvert.
So you're an extrovert and I am also an extrovert.
Yeah.
There's no doubt about it.
I think extroverted individuals prefer group activities and get energized by social interaction.
And I'm going to emphasize that get energized part because I have had conversations with
my friend who was like an expert Jillian in like personality tests and like this, and
like this type of thing.
Cause she does like HR stuff and she kind of was the one that got me on this whole,
well, cause I was like, I feel like I'm more of an introvert sometimes because sometimes
I just like want to sit at home, you know, but I don't get energized by that.
So like when I sit at home, I like get more deep into this, like I'm going to continue
sitting at home.
But like when I go out and hang out with people, I get more energized and I'm like, yay.
And I, it's like an object in motion stays at motion and object at rest.
I definitely think that like when there's things that we have to go do like socially
or whatever, sometimes you're like on the dread train up until like the moment that
you get in the car and then we start talking and you like start to liven up again.
Yeah.
And then I like switch flips and I'm like, Oh, I do really like doing this.
Yeah.
I'm like so happy I'm here.
That's why people have to like, I have to like make people force me to do stuff sometimes.
So yeah, it does.
It says they tend to, so extroverts tend to be more enthusiastic and more easily excited
than introverts, which I am, I guess.
Yeah.
I get more excited.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't, I don't really know many people that would be introverts.
You know, any of our friends that might be an introvert?
My old neighbor, Sean.
Oh, well yeah, but Sean, we already know he, we took, did the Enneagram with him and he's
like a five or something.
I don't know.
Okay.
So, but who, do you know any other, any of our friends like close friends, like our separate
club people that you would think, cause Jessica would not, she would be an extrovert for sure.
I mean, this is from what I can see.
Yeah.
I mean, I think Melanie sometimes can be an introvert and she like will refuse to go and
do things.
Yeah.
She's an introvert.
I mean, that's kind of how I am.
I don't know.
You don't refuse to go do anything though.
You can be easily talked into things because you have FOMO.
There are times where she does not give a shit.
That's true.
She's dead set on not hanging out and being by herself.
That is what she's going to do.
She will skip a pool day.
She does not care.
Our friend Kelly is coming down from Huntsville this weekend.
I'm like, did you want to come down here too?
No, thank you.
I'm like, okay, bye.
I have FOMO so bad.
I'd be like, no, I'm coming.
I'm coming.
Even if I had like I'd cancel plans, I'd be like, oh, no, you're like, but yeah, that's
funny.
But I don't know anybody else that would be an introvert.
So we talked about the first aspect, which is the mind, which is the introvert, extrovert.
Now we're on energy.
The second one is energy.
So it determines how we see the world and process information.
So you're either an S or an N and S is observant.
I know it's kind of confusing because it's like an observant and then the N is intuitive
and let me tell you what these mean.
So they mean observant individuals are highly practical, pragmatic and down to earth.
They tend to have strong habits and focus on what is happening or has already happened
and intuitive individuals are very imaginative, open minded and curious.
They prefer novelty over stability and focus on hidden meanings and future possibilities.
So what did you tell me?
You are what I forgot.
An S.
You're an S. So you are the observant.
For sure.
Do you believe that?
Yeah.
So you're highly practical, pragmatic and down to earth.
I forgot to tell you guys what I am.
Oh yeah.
What are you?
Well, you're an E. So mine.
So and we're kind of, I'm kind of getting off of the topic thing here.
We'll get back to it in a minute, but every time I've taken this test, it has been different.
But most of the time when I take it, I get the same thing.
And I'm going to tell you that one.
I was a protagonist, which is an E, N, F, J. So I was an E so that I'm an extrovert and
I'm an N. Where are you?
S. So we're different on that, which is interesting.
I like to talk about the differences, the N. So I am very imaginative, open minded and
curious.
I prefer novelty over stability and focus on hidden meanings and future possibilities.
Honestly, I don't really understand that.
Like I don't feel like that's who I am.
But do you think that I am more like that?
Yeah.
Like you, we've talked before about Jessica's husband, Dale, really like being into conspiracy
theories and you're like really into that.
And I'm not at all.
Yeah, I love that.
Love it.
And I love like do say prepping and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's not my job.
We definitely need to get him on here to talk about some conspiracy theories.
He is listening right now and he's going to be like, yeah, I'm so excited.
Jessica's probably rolling her eyes like, oh God.
Okay, so the next one, the next personality aspect is nature and it determines how you
make decisions and cope with emotions.
So you can either be thinking or you can be the feeling T or F. What are you?
F for sure.
I have so many feelings.
It's unbelievable.
I am an F too.
But thinking individuals focus on objectivity and rationality, prioritizing logic over emotions.
They tend to hide their feelings and see efficiency as more important than cooperation.
I honestly think I might be a T and that's probably why I get a different one every time.
Maybe because I think I might be a T. But feeling individuals, which is what we both
are according to what we scored, feeling individuals are sensitive and emotionally expressive.
They are more empathetic and less co-op competitive than thinking types and focus on social harmony
and cooperation.
You think do you agree with that for yourself?
Yeah.
I feel like you're sensitive and emotionally expressive.
Cooperation isn't my strong suit sometimes.
I feel like you're competitive though.
For sure.
I feel like I'm not necessarily as sensitive or emotionally expressive, but I am very less
competitive.
Yeah.
I mean, when we were playing cornhole this weekend at the lake, I don't even like cornhole
and I was like ready to whip some ass.
Yeah.
And I was just like, I don't care who wins.
I'm just having fun.
Do you focus on social harmony and cooperation?
I feel like that second part is more me than the first part.
I do feel like I might be a T though, because I tend to hide my feelings and see efficiency
as more important than cooperation.
Yes, you do.
Yeah.
I mean, I just don't feel like my feelings really matter that much to the grand scheme
of things.
And I feel like my feelings are the only thing that matter in the grand scheme of things.
I'm just like, look, my feeling will pass.
This feeling will, this too shall pass and we can move on to the next thing.
Like I'm going to, I'm going to feel it for a second and there's no reason.
If I get mad or do whatever, or try to say something about my feelings, then I'm just,
it's going to make everybody else like have a bad time.
And then I want to talk about my feelings for the next two hours.
Yeah.
That's why I hate that.
That's the one thing I don't like about you.
Just that one thing.
I'm like, just that one thing.
I think, I mean, we'll talk about, well, I'll see if as we go down the list, I'll see if
there's anything else and I'll let you know.
Thank you so much.
Honestly, I don't mind like talking to you about your feelings, but sometimes you get
in your feelings so much and I have to be like, Sarah, get out, get out, get out of
that.
Okay.
So next one, number four is tactics, which reflects our approach to work planning and
decision-making.
So you can be there a J or a P and you are a what?
J.
I'm a J as well.
So we're, wait, so we're almost, we're like kind of almost the same.
The J is judging, which judging individuals are decisive, thorough, and highly organized.
They value clarity, predictability, and closure, preferring structure and planning to spontaneity.
You are 100% judging.
Like holy moly.
Like I could, I might be like possibly like borderline judging perspective, but like you,
yeah.
Okay.
So let me just say decisive.
Yes.
Thorough and highly organized.
Yes.
And then closure.
Yes.
All those preferring structure and planning to spontaneity.
100%.
Look, we went to the lake last weekend and she like four weeks ahead of time was like,
we need to make sure we know exactly what we're eating for every meal.
Like she was on top of it planning.
I mean, it was great because I didn't have to do it.
Well, the only reason why that happened that way, I mean, do I like to be in control?
Yes.
Because then it puts me in like a comfort zone because I know what's happening and I
don't have to worry about it.
Like I knew I didn't want to go back to the store and have to like go get something during
the day, whatever.
But I mean, I just had a previous winter time lake trip on that same lake, you know, not
far from where we stayed and I knew we weren't going to want to leave and I knew it made
sense to plan the entire weekend meal wise.
Yeah.
And it made it, it did make sense.
But like if you had showed up and to somebody else's trip and they hadn't done all that
and you got there and they were like, Oh, we got to go to the store.
You would have probably been like, what the hell?
Why did they not plan this out?
Oh, you would have been like really kicked off.
That happened when we went on a beach trip.
The very last beach trip that we went on was in Destin and we stayed in Sandestin where
we could, you know, golf cart to the publics in there or whatever.
And we did not buy shit.
We just said we were going to get everything while we were down there.
Dumbest thing that we ever did.
We bought too much stuff.
We spent way too much money.
It was insanity.
I want to say that like after all the alcohol and everything, we spent $400 for like a three
night stay.
It was ridiculous.
For how many people though?
There may have been like 10 or 11 of us, something like that.
That's not that, I mean, I mean, I don't know.
I mean, it could have been, it could have been better.
It could have been worse.
Right.
But like we also ate out twice.
Oh yeah.
No.
For a three night stay and you bought all that stuff?
Correct.
Holy cow.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it was just a lot.
It was a lot of it.
And then like trying to pack up groceries that you've already unpacked afterwards is
like a hot mess.
So yes, I mean, I do appreciate that like planning aspect of it, but I get it from my
mother.
Yeah.
Well, she brings her own damn ham soap to my house.
Okay.
As if I don't have any.
That's a weird.
My mom brings her own crystal ball.
I call it a crystal ball, a crystal glass cup everywhere because she refuses to drink
out of and not crystal cup.
She brings her own toilet paper, paper towels, washcloths, hand towels.
It's insanity.
My mom brings her own sheets to my house.
She brings banker boxes with her.
Like last year when we were on our beach trip, Jerry and I were like, what is in these banker
boxes?
She needs to be prepared.
And she had like fricking Windex and counter cleaner.
And it's like, we are in somebody's home.
You never know what you're.
She's a mom and that is what you do when you're a mom.
You plan for everything.
My mom does the same thing, but not as she doesn't bring her own hand soap.
But if I didn't have any, she would go to the store and buy some.
That's my whole thing.
Like you're these airbnbs.
I mean, they're, they stay with us and an airbnb sometimes or whatever.
The people have soap.
Yeah.
Usually they have like more than what I've got.
They're not, not having soap.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Yeah, that's sorry, mom.
Love you.
But it's a little weird.
You bring your own hand soap to my house.
I think it's a little, well, so it would be different if you were like a college student
still and you like weren't an adult and didn't have hand soap.
I'm 35.
I buy the 18 pack of toilet paper now.
It's 36.
But is it the good type of toilet paper that she wants to use?
Do you get it from?
It is the Sharpen red label.
Oh, you get Sharpen.
Oh, I get, I get Kirkland brand because it's good.
Because that Scott we had at the lake was terrible.
It was horrific.
And the.
Well, anyways, back to the personality aspects.
Okay.
So under the tactics, you're either judging or respecting.
So P is I think that's how you say it.
Prospecting prospecting prospecting prospecting.
Individuals are very good at improvising and spotting opportunities.
They tend to be flexible, relaxed, nonconformist who prefer keeping their options open.
I will tell you right now, Pete is a P for Pete.
He was like he was freaking out.
He was like he was I screen shotted the text message or all the stuff for from like the
Facebook thing and all the text message about like food and stuff and whatever you sent
me from the lady.
And I was like, here's all the stuff.
And he was like, what in the world?
He was like, what is this?
This is too much.
You guys are over the top.
Like yes.
And I was like, you're going to have to get used to that because this is how we roll.
And I was like, this is this is how it goes.
I know.
I was like, what?
Honestly, though, he would have showed up with more stuff than I did.
Well, and I said the same thing that that lady sent me.
She was so nice and it was so informative.
But I sent it to both you and Sanjana and I gave the byline of this is really long and
a lot of information.
You know, read at your.
Yeah, you sent it to me and I was like, I'm going to have to read that later.
Not reading now.
I gave a heads up and I was like, there's a lot of info here.
Yeah.
So anyways, that's that's the tactics.
So then the last one is your identity and it's like your last letter.
So there's four letters and then a dash and then you either have an A or a T assertive
or turbulent.
And this part underpins all others showing how confident we are in our abilities and
decisions.
So are you an A or what do you think you're an A?
Yes.
So and I don't know what I am.
I need to look at mine.
So assertive A individuals are self-assured, even-tempered and resistant to stress.
They refuse to worry too much and do not push themselves too hard when it comes to achieving
goals.
So you're saying you're an A and then the T is for turbulent.
Turbulent individuals are self-conscious and sensitive to stress.
They are likely to experience a wide range of emotions and to be success driven, perfectionist
and eager to improve.
I think that I might be a T. I should be a T. Yeah.
That's why I like I.
Assertive just because of the word, but I am very.
What is yours?
What is your yours?
Come back as a, a yes.
Yeah.
So I'm not necessarily self-conscious, but I am sensitive to stress and then like likely
to experience a wide range of emotions to be success driven, perfectionist, correct
and eager to improve.
Yeah.
I think we're both those.
Take yours again.
Okay.
Yeah, we'll take it again.
See how it goes.
I'm telling you this test is not in my opinion, it has not been.
What is the word?
Accurate.
Not accurate, but like consistent.
Yes.
It hasn't been consistent.
So.
Do you have what you are listed?
Yeah, but I just don't know what, what's the end of it.
I'm a protagonist, which you can be an ENFJ A or an ENFJ T and I believe I'm a T now that
we have each of those, there are type groups.
So on the, once you take your tests, it comes up or you can look at the types and there's
different types and they're kind of color coded.
And I think there's like a few types per, per color and how do they fit together?
So there's two different layers.
The first layer, there's an inner layer that defines our roles and the second layer is
the strategies.
So the roles layer determines the goals, interests and preferred activity.
There are four roles.
Okay.
So you can, the first one is analysts.
So it's intuitive and thinking types.
These personality types embrace rationality and impartial, impartiality.
I'm so bad at reading, excelling in intellectual debates and scientific or technological fields.
They are fiercely independent, open-minded, strong-willed and imaginative, approaching
many things from utilitarian perspective and being far more interested in what works than
what satisfies everyone.
These traits make analysts excellent strategic thinkers, but also cause difficulties when
it comes to social or romantic pursuits.
I'm pretty sure, am I an analyst?
Hold on.
I don't know what I am.
You're not.
You are a, I'm going to tell you what you are.
I'll tell you in a second.
I'm not an analyst.
I'm a diplomat.
You are a sentinel, sentinel.
Okay.
So the next one, diplomat.
So this one is the one that I fall under.
I am a protagonist.
So diplomats are intuitive and feeling.
So the N and the F. So like if you're an E extrovert, E, N, F.
F is the next two.
Both assertive and turbulent variant.
So you have, would have the A or the T at the end.
So diplomats focus on empathy and cooperation, shining and diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy,
diplomacy, diplomacy.
I feel like I should be British.
Shining and diplomacy and counseling.
That was a really bad accent, but okay.
People belonging to this type group are cooperative and imaginative, often playing the role of
harmonizers in their workplace or social circles.
These traits make diplomats warm, empathetic and influential individuals, but also cause
issues when there is a need to rely exclusively on cold rationality or make difficult decisions.
Interesting.
Hmm.
That's not good.
I don't like that for myself, but I do like that.
It's like cold rationality, like I guess it causes issues when there's a need to rely
exclusively on cold rationality, which sometimes, yeah, sometimes I'm that way, but not really.
I feel like you're worse than me.
All right.
This one's yours.
Sentinels, observant and judging, which is the S and the J. So this is your group.
The sentinel, okay.
So observing and judging.
So the SJ types.
Sentinels are cooperative and highly practical, embracing and creating order, security and
sensibility wherever they go.
People belonging to one of these types tend to be hardworking.
That's you.
Meticulous.
That's you.
And traditional.
Eh.
Are you traditional?
You can't use your words.
You shook your head.
She shook her head yes.
I shook my head yes.
Yeah.
I mean, I would say traditional when it comes to some things.
Like, I don't know.
I guess I'm traditional in the sense of if it ain't broke, don't fix it type of thing.
Like I'm not trying to come up with 75 ways to get from point A to point B.
Oh, I'm that way.
Just out of creativity purposes.
Yeah.
Okay.
And excel in logistical or administrative fields.
I could be the best executive administrator that's ever existed.
That's the truth.
You're basically mine.
Emily, check your email.
Check your Facebook.
Especially those that rely on clear hierarchies and rules.
These like a rule.
Yeah, I don't.
I'm like, give me a rule.
I mean, I don't I like for other people to have rules.
I like for other people to have rules, but I'm also not one of those that's going to
ask for forgiveness instead of permission.
I feel so guilty if I don't ask for permission or whatever.
Like, and maybe that's just comes from like, working in like terrible corporate situations
where like, I was micromanaged and I felt like I had to like, be upfront about whatever
I was doing.
Yeah, or you were gonna get fired or something.
Yeah.
Like, they're slapping on the wrist.
Nobody should ever feel that way.
But I think that's where that stems from.
Yeah.
So it depends on for me for like, sometimes I'm like, flexible.
Sometimes I'm like, not.
I want there to be rules for other people.
But like, I want to like, not have rules for me.
That's really bad.
I sound like a one for the Enneagram for those of you who know what those are.
And we'll talk about that later.
These personality types stick to their plans and do not shy away from difficult tasks.
However, they can be, they can also be very inflexible and reluctant to accept different
points of view.
Okay, so then there are explorers.
And those are the observant and prospecting SMP, which we aren't either of those, but
I'll read part of this anyways.
These types are the most spontaneous of all, and they also share the ability to connect
with their surroundings in a way that is beyond reach of other types.
I want to be that way so bad.
Do you, I read these personality types sometimes and I'm like, that's what I want to be, but
that's not what I am.
I want to be so many personalities.
Don't you?
I already have 75 personalities.
It's fine.
No, you don't.
You have one.
Every test that you took was the same.
You already said it.
Okay.
These types.
I'm not going to talk about that.
They also share the ability to connect with their surroundings in a way that is beyond
reach of other types.
Explorers are utilitarian and practical, shining in situations that require quick reaction
and ability to think on your feet.
I want that too.
They are masters of tools and techniques, using them in many different ways, ranging
from mastering physical tools to convincing other people.
Ooh, I like that.
Unsurprisingly, these personality types are irreplaceable in crises, crafts, and sales.
However, their traits can also push them towards undertaking risky endeavors or focusing solely
on sensual pleasures.
I want that one to be mine.
Okay.
I actually am going to pull up my results.
I took the test recently and got something completely different than I've never gotten
before.
I had taken these multiple times.
I'm going to tell you what I got.
Okay.
Wait, did I do it twice?
Yeah, I took it twice because I was like, this is wrong.
I got a campaigner, which the campaigner is an ENFPA is what I got.
Yeah, I didn't get Explorer.
I really wanted to get Explorer.
NF, I got a diplomat, which is the same as what I would have had before.
I'm normally a protagonist, but this time I got a campaigner because I guess the last
one, the J and the S is different.
I don't know.
It's interesting.
One little thing threw me off.
We're going to talk about what yours is.
I would like you to tell me what your type is.
I'm a liar.
Sarah is a liar.
Tell us what you lied about.
I think I lied too.
Accidentally.
Yes, exactly.
Unintentional.
I am an ESFJT.
As soon as I said assertive in the beginning because of the word, but then once I heard
you read the T for turbulent, I definitely thought that's what I was and I had to go
back and check my email.
My apologies for being a liar.
Liar.
Pants on fire.
Yeah, she's T, she's turbulent, which is the one we said we thought she was.
I went back and I'm pretty sure I'm a T because of the way it reads, but I went back and the
two that I took, I took it twice yesterday again.
I've never gotten these before, but I got a and I got campaign or ENFPA and then the
second time I took it, I got executive ESTJ.
So I'm thinking I might be an A actually.
But normally I'm an ENFJ, but this is freaking weird that I get a different one every time.
So I could be any of those.
They're all pretty much all of them are in the same group.
So what's your personality?
The campaigner?
No.
So normally I am the protagonist and I'll read some stuff about that.
But then this past time I took it yesterday.
First time I got a campaigner and the second time I got executive, which is interesting
because like why am I getting different results?
But they're all very close together.
I think executive is a sentinel, which is the same as yours, the same group as yours,
but the protagonist and the campaigner are both in the diplomats.
So I'm wondering what the difference is in those.
Is that the personality or the strategy?
That's like the type groups.
So those are the roles.
So there's like groups of each type.
So you've got like we just went over.
So you've got analysts, which is the architect, which is like INTJA.
So your group is a sentinel group, logisticians, defender, executive and consul.
And so then like the other, there are other groups and there's like four in each one,
I think.
Okay.
I understand the hierarchy now.
So let me look at your sentinels are cooperative and highly practical, embracing and creating
order, security and stability wherever they go.
People belonging to one of these types tend to be hardworking, meticulous and traditional
and excel in logistical and administrative fields, especially those who rely blah, blah,
blah, blah.
We already talked about that.
So that I am that.
But then the other one is the diplomats.
Diplomats focus on empathy and cooperation, shining in diplomacy and counseling.
Honestly, I'm I might not be a diplomat.
I would say you're more of a sentinel.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
So so maybe I am an executive so we can go with that instead of the other one that I
do.
So which would technically be mean that I am an ESTJ executive.
I'm writing this down so that I don't forget it.
I'm going back and forth with all my notes and I'm like very confused.
Okay.
So I want to talk about your type.
So you're a your console, which is under the sentinels.
Tell us about your type.
So I'm just going to read a few different things that I wrote down.
So loves sharing life, community and their home, takes responsibility seriously, finds
it difficult not to judge, supportive, outgoing, loyal, offers a helping hand.
And I agree with all of those things.
I would host everything at my house all the time if I could.
So I didn't have to leave, but I was still having social interactions as far as strengths
go.
Practical, strong sense of duty, sensitive and warm and weaknesses are worried about
social status, inflexible, vulnerable to criticism, too needy and too selfless.
Yeah.
So let's get into this.
Let's get in deep on that.
Okay.
Are you on your strengths and weaknesses?
Is that what we're doing?
Okay.
So do we want to talk about the strengths first?
We can.
What one do you think is like your biggest strength?
Either practical or sensitive.
Thinking about this.
Sorry.
I think you are loyal.
Well, maybe not.
I don't know.
I think you.
Is that supposed to be a dig?
Just kidding.
No.
I mean, shoot.
Yeah, it sounded like one, didn't it?
Yeah.
You might be the sensitive and warm one.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that it's one of those things where I definitely try to put out into the
world that I have this like rough and tough exterior, but I have a whole lot of feelings
and I'm very sensitive to criticism and not being right.
I love to be right all the time.
I used to be more that way.
I've gotten so much better.
Look, I still feel that sometimes, but I have grown so much.
I have to work on all my bad traits.
I've been working on myself.
Okay.
Oh, I mean, yes, of course.
I mean, I was a very different person, you know, 15, 20 years ago.
Dang, it took that long?
I'm just kidding.
Very stubborn, did not care about what anybody else thought or whatever.
I mean, I definitely had to change that.
I had to be more aware of people's feelings.
It couldn't always be my way or the highway.
Yeah.
So when I look at this, I believe, and I think I was wrong earlier about you being loyal
or whatever.
I think from my perspective, I think your strongest strength on all of these is the
strong sense of duty where it says people with console personality type have a strong
sense of responsibility and strive to meet their obligations through this.
They may sometimes be more from a sense of social expectations than intrinsic drive.
You don't feel that?
I feel that.
I feel like you have a feel like from what I see from you, it seems like you feel like
you have this duty to be there for other people and to do stuff.
I feel like I'm not there enough for myself sometimes.
Right.
Yeah.
That's what I see that a lot.
Yeah.
Except for sometimes you'll be like, no, I'm not doing that.
And I'm like, yes, you are.
And then you do it anyways, because I'm like, if I have to go, you have to go.
She like, I'm going home early.
I'm like, no, you're not.
And then I feel bad about it because sometimes I'm like, oh, I should have done that because
I feel bad because I know how it is when you need to like life balance type of thing.
So your weaknesses, let's look at your weaknesses.
What do you think your biggest weakness out of these is?
Either inflexible or vulnerable to criticism.
Because when I like to be good at things, we know this.
It's one of the things that I don't really like to do things unless I know that I'm going
to be good at them, a.k.a. I don't rep presents because I'm not good at rapping.
You can't not be good at rapping.
All you have to do is rap and tape.
It's not hard.
You're wild.
But I don't, it hurts my feelings and I take it to heart when it's not about that.
Even in the professional world, I'll get my feelings hurt because of a criticism that's
come my way.
And maybe it's the way it was delivered, but I just like I function so much better off
praise than I do.
Like the need for correcting behavior or being better.
Yeah.
Well, I feel like most people do.
Like if you somebody, you know, it's like, what do they call it?
The positive reinforcement or whatever.
I think I don't know.
They're opposite.
I definitely think that there are people out there in this world that like if you criticize
them, it's going to push them that much harder to be better at something or get it done or
whatever.
And there are people that function like that.
It's just not me.
I also, if somebody's like, I don't know if they tell me I'm not good at something, I
honestly might be the person that would be like, yes, I am.
And do it and do it.
I don't know.
But nobody wants to hear like bad, like negative stuff.
But I think that you seeing, I don't feel your feelings and I'm very much like if somebody
says something to me, I kind of like just like blow it off like, uh huh.
I don't get my feelings hurt that easily.
If you hurt my feelings, you probably said something like really bad, like, and it like
really it was really bad.
But I feel like you are probably the I don't know the inflexible maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know which one would be.
But I feel like maybe you're the vulnerable to criticism.
But also if you kind of we kind of earlier talked about how your weaknesses, what couple
of your weaknesses are one of them, it says often too needy.
That kind of goes with your love languages because it says that they need to hear and
see a great deal of appreciation.
And also I feel like the vulnerable to criticism thing like kind of goes with your love language
because you need to be able to hear because her love language is words of affirmation.
Yeah.
So and it's like, you know, it says that they may start fishing for compliments and in an
attempt to get reassurance of how much they're valued, which I don't I've never seen you
do that before.
No, I'm not a fisher for compliments.
Yeah.
In that I would rather be told like I'm good at something or my food is good than I would.
You're pretty like, yeah, no.
Yeah, me either.
But that's the same thing.
I wouldn't honestly.
I don't know.
I don't really I don't really like I don't really like when people are like telling me
good compliments because I feel I mean I do I guess I don't know.
I just feel insecure a little bit.
I'm like, oh, why are you talking about that?
Why are you why are you noticing me?
Like I kind of just want to be like regularly.
I don't know.
It's weird.
Fly under the radar.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't want to be like not me.
I mean, I would not honestly don't want to but like kind of do.
I don't know.
It's weird.
I'm a weird person.
So it says that you're loyal to the core.
They build lasting relationships and they can be counted on to show up whenever helping
hand or a listening ear is needed.
I agree with that.
Definitely.
I could be a better listener, but yeah, I mean, if you called and needed something,
I wouldn't hesitate.
Yeah, definitely.
Okay, cool.
Okay, so I am.
I want to know.
Yeah, read yours.
We're going to talk about me now.
Even though we've been talking about me this whole time.
Okay, so we're doing we're going to talk about I normally like a long time ago would test
and I would get the ENFJ A and I think it's an A but it might have been a T.
I don't remember because I don't have those test results from a long time ago and that
is the probably in your email with 4975 emails and I know but did not tell you all that last
week last week I told you all that I was going to go find my live journal.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I went to my email to find my live journal password and it got deleted and purged from
the live journal website.
I'm really ticked off in 2013.
It was 10 years ago when it got purged and I'm like really upset and a set.
Jessica text me the other day.
She's like I had a live journal too.
I'm like, oh my God, we're so emo.
But yeah, anyway, so so that I was a always a protagonist and that's what I was going
to talk about today.
But we're going to do I took it again and I got ESTJ a and so we think that I am more
of the executive which is a sentinel.
Okay, so the executive is ESTJ.
It's someone with extraverted so I'm extraverted observant thinking and judging personality
traits.
They possess great fortitude, empathetically following their own sensible judgment.
They often serve as a stabilizing force among others, able to offer solid direction and
are amid adversity.
Executive personalities lead by example, demonstrating dedication and purposeful honesty and an utter
rejection of laziness and cheating, especially in work.
If anyone declares hard manual work to be an excellent way to build character, it is
executives.
I agree with that.
We're aware we're aware of our surroundings and live in a world of clear verifiable facts.
The surety of their knowledge means that even against heavy resistance, they stick to their
principles and push an uncladded vision of what is and is not acceptable.
I'm kind of that way.
Maybe their opinions aren't just empty talk either as executives are more willing to dive
into the most challenging projects, improving action plans and sorting details along the
way, making making even the most complicated tasks seem easy and approachable.
That is you.
Is it?
Yeah.
You think so?
Yeah.
Oh, thanks.
I don't feel that way.
I'm glad that you think that though.
That makes me happy.
I feel like I'm a heart of myself sometimes though.
And don't think that I'm like have like good characteristics.
So like the last sentence are all of that.
But I don't agree with this next bar.
So it says, however, however, executives don't work alone and they expect their reliability
and work ethic to be reciprocated.
Well, I do agree with that.
It says executives don't work alone.
But like I do like to work alone.
Yeah, you do.
And they expect their reliability and work ethic to be reciprocated.
Yes, I do.
People with this personality type meet their promises.
And if partners or subordinates jeopardize them through incompetence or laziness or worse
still dishonesty, they do not hesitate to show their wrath.
Oh my God.
I think I have a couple of coworkers that might agree with me on that one.
They can earn them a reputation or this can earn them a reputation for inflexibility and
a trait shared by all sentinel personalities.
So you have that personality because you're a sentinel.
Right.
Okay.
A trait.
Okay.
But it's not because executives are arbitrarily stubborn, but because they truly believe that
these values are what makes society work.
I agree with that.
I mean, I'm pretty, um, so we're not.
So then my strengths and weaknesses, let's see, dedicated, strong willed, direct and
honest.
I am very direct and honest usually, but it was because I want people to be that way with
me.
I mean, you know, you can sugarcoat some things, but like I, I don't know how to like not tell
the truth.
It's very hard for me to sugarcoat something.
I try.
Right.
But I'm not going to be like you're fat and ugly and nobody likes you.
I'm probably just going to be like, Hey, this wasn't right.
And like, honestly, it's not like that, but I'm very, I usually am pretty direct.
Like if somebody asks me a question, I'm very, it's, I can ask my mom.
I am the worst liar.
I can't lie.
My mom would ask me a question and I'd be like trying to lie.
I like this look on my face with big eyes and I'm like, and she'll be like, okay, I
can't lie.
I'm just really bad.
So and then loyal, patient and reliable.
Enjoy creating order.
Yes.
I love that.
I love it.
I don't know why.
And I don't, I also don't know why.
So like I have friends and so like I was in the junior league and like in these other
groups of things.
And anytime there's like a speech that has to be had or made or like anytime everybody's
attention needs to be called to like talk to people and make an announcement, everybody's
like, Emily, come here, you have to do this.
I'm like, why me?
Why am I always the one that's chosen?
It's because, and I'm always like, I just don't understand that.
I feel like you may have done that with me too, because I will like yell and be like,
excuse me, can we get everybody's attention?
But other people get really.
I don't have a problem doing that.
I don't, I'm not a huge public speaker.
I've had to do it at my job and granted we are remote, but like I've had to present in
all company meetings where there's 200 people on there.
I presented an award at our holiday party and like was really proud of myself for getting
up in that room and doing it, but I don't strive to do that.
Oh me either.
But like I don't want to do it in like a corporate situation.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I want it to be fun because we're loud.
Yes.
That's what it is.
That's so messed up.
They're like, oh, Emily, you come over here.
And I'm like, why do you always make me do it?
Send the loud mouth.
Yeah.
Send the girl that doesn't care about like making a fool out of herself and screaming
above everybody.
And it's also a wonderful quality to have because they know that they can count on you.
To scream at everyone.
Yeah.
It's for a good reason.
Hey, hey, hey, everybody shut up.
Right.
Shut up and listen hookers.
Okay.
So, oh, it does say it's for under the create, create order thing.
Chaos makes things unpredictable and unpredictable things can't be trusted when they are needed
most.
With this in mind, executives strive to create order and security in their environments by
establishing rules, structures, and clear roles.
Yeah.
I mean, with other people.
Yeah.
Excellent organizers.
Yeah.
I'm pretty good at organizing, but like honestly, lately, I haven't been a very good organized
person.
I mean, I disagree with that.
You and I are very alike when it comes to like our clothes are in our closets and laundry
gets done.
It may sit in the dryer or whatever, but like the things.
I know where things are in your kitchen, like because they have a place and they go back
into that place.
Well, have you seen my two drunk drawers that one of them's not technically not supposed
to be a junk drawer, but it is now.
You can't even open it.
I reorganized one of them the other day, but it's still a junk drawer.
But still, I mean, you and I both like things specific ways and like to do things habitually,
if you will.
Yeah.
And like don't come in my house and put stuff in the wrong spot because I'm going to be
like, that's why I'm always like, just don't do the dishes.
My mom, she came here one time and she washed the pots and pans that she used to cook and
then she like put them all out on the counter because she was like, I guess she just didn't
want to put them back in the wrong spot.
She was like, and honestly.
I would rather somebody do that than not.
I mean, I guess.
I guess.
I mean, I guess you put it back where it came from.
I talked about a couple of episodes ago, like I had an early morning meeting and Brandon
like folded the laundry or whatever and he just like left it on the bed, but it was folded
on the bed because he didn't know where it all went.
And I would rather that happen.
Oh yeah.
Just the laundry.
Because then you go and try to find it and you wouldn't even know where it went.
I'd be like, yeah, no.
Which also shout out to Katrina, the lady who comes in and cleans my house because this
new apartment that I'm in, she has not rearranged my entire house.
She has left things.
I don't know what they are.
Sometimes I would come back and I would be like, where is this?
How'd she do that?
Listen, I finally started leaving shit where she put it because she kept putting it in
the same spot after she came every time.
And I was like, okay, whatever.
Yeah.
I know.
So, okay.
So my weaknesses are I'm inflexible and stubborn, which is true.
I don't believe that you're stubborn though.
I'm not necessarily stubborn, but yeah, sometimes it comes down like work stuff.
Yes.
I would say, but not in your personal life as much though.
Like even the inflexible, you're much more go with the flow than I am.
It does not stress you out as much as it stresses me out to not have a plan.
I have like two different personalities.
I'm bipolar when it comes to work.
Work personality is my soul life.
I'm like, work.
I'm like, I'm pretty much the same in both.
I used to be.
I feel like, I don't know.
I fluctuate sometimes.
Like normally, yeah, I'm not very stubborn.
Like I'm just like, well, whatever.
I'm slowly learning to do like a pick your battles type thing and not like get my panties
and wad over some things that I usually do.
Look, we have so many like type A control freak friends.
Yeah.
So I cannot be the one.
And I'm kind of glad because I just want to show up and have a good time and I don't want
to care.
I don't, and they probably get frustrated because I don't care and I don't say, but
like for separate club, I'm just like, tell me where to be and I'll be there.
Yeah.
I mean, and that's one group that like I will let go of control and just let other people
kind of run with it because they're good at it.
Yeah.
Because they're good at it.
And because like I'm, I feel like I'm making decisions in other areas of my life, whether
it be at work or in my relationship or you know, whatever, like the apartment group friends,
like I feel like for the most part, like I'm organizing those kinds of things.
So if I can step away from that and other friend groups, then it's kind of a reprieve,
you know, from just being bossy pants all the time.
You know, you don't like being bossy pants all the time.
I like it when I like it.
And when I don't like it, I hate it about myself because I want to be able to let go
and Jesus take the wheel and you know, just not be so in my head about stuff, but can't
help it sometimes.
Well, I will tell you that there's this thing called Lexapro that I started taking.
Girl, I'm on pro, Zach.
I'm fine.
And that stuff helped me.
Like I feel like nothing matters anymore.
I mean, things matter, but like it's like, I don't get anxious or like, I mean, I do
sometimes still, but like, I don't get like, it just, it helps when I'm very happy with
my brain drugs right now.
Yeah.
When people like start doing stuff and like, like taking me off when we're going to do
something and I'm like, why can't we get this in order?
Like, cause normally I'd be like trying to just take control and be like, okay, this
is what we're going to do.
Now I'm just like, ah, just let it happen.
I will say one thing that has made a major difference in my life is like getting sleeping
better, falling asleep easier.
And I don't know if I'm just like sat so happy and like my job and my relationship and my
friendships right now.
And with my family, like I really don't have anything to complain about right now and I'm
sleeping better and that helps my mental health overall.
I think I know why you're sleeping better because you have a boyfriend.
I'm just saying that I think that that might be why another reason why you're sleeping
better.
Cause like, you get like endorphins and like, um, all the things that like serotonin and
stuff like that, that like is released when you are loved and like kissed and hugged and
whatever.
And I believe that I truly believe that that is like something that is kind of like medicine.
I also have a brand new king size bed and it's great that too.
But also I don't, I have a king size bed and I don't sleep at all because, and I don't
have a boyfriend.
So, okay.
So uncomfortable and unconventional with I'm, apparently I'm uncomfortable with unconventional
situations.
I'm judgmental too focused on social status, difficult to relax, difficulty expressing emotion.
Yes, 100% difficulty and too focused on social status.
Not really.
I'm not really.
So do you think I am?
You think I am?
Yes.
You in an earlier episode, you said you wanted to be a socialite of Birmingham.
No, I didn't want to be a, yeah.
Heck yeah.
Do you want to know why?
Because they make, they have a lot of money.
I'm not worried about social status.
I'm not trying to be like everybody's BFF and like go hang out, but yeah, that would
be fun.
I don't care about my status, like, but I do care about money.
So you don't, you don't want to be a socialite of Birmingham.
You just want to be rich.
Essentially.
Okay.
That's, that's a more fair statement than wanting to be a socialite of Birmingham.
Yes.
Okay.
But doesn't everyone want to be rich?
So, but I think it would be fun to just be a socialite and not have a job, you know,
like, but I mean these, but here, hear me out on this.
These people are not just, I mean, there are some that are out there and you know, strictly
socialites and they have family money or whatever, but a lot of these people are technically
influencers and they're doing brand deals and they have to show up to things.
Which is what a socialite was before Instagram and Facebook and all that.
Social media became made them influencers.
They were technically still influencers.
They were just socialites.
Yeah.
Which is what I want to be, but I'm not social status.
I mean, yeah, but I mean, I guess maybe, I don't know.
Maybe I am.
We're going to move right on.
So if anybody has any questions about your 16 person, you can go to 16personalities.com
take that test, send us what you think.
I don't know.
You know, we can compare our stuff.
Christina, I know you're going to take it right now.
All right.
Moving right along to the next test.
So we did a test by the Eagle Center for Leadership and I believe it's eaglecenterforleadership.com
and I call this the animal test.
I don't know what it's actually called.
I don't even think it's the make a difference personality profile is what it's called.
The goal of this assessment is to help you understand your own tendencies a bit better
and also to help you understand and communicate with those around you more effectively.
That's really what all these personality tests are for.
For sure.
So I've had friends tell me, well, I don't want like, I have a friend who told me one
time she was like, I don't want, I don't like personality tests because I don't like being
labeled or putting put in a box.
But in my opinion, you're not, this is just, this is helping you to understand how you
react to certain situations and how other people react so that you can work.
If you know how that person's going to be, you can help communicate with that better
with that person.
So like if I know, yeah, it's kind of like the love languages.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think it's, I mean, the whole entire time we've been talking about, well, I see this
in myself, but I also see this other aspect of it.
And it's just one of those things where it's helping you understand yourself better, be
introspective, because maybe you don't like what you heard and it's something that you
want to change.
And I think it's wonderful to do in your personal life and those relationships, but it's also
very healthy to do professionally as well, because how you communicate with others and
or how you manage others definitely matters.
100%.
Yes.
And like what you said, I like what you said about like, if you, you know, something you
don't like, like when we get to the Enneagram portion of when we talk about personality
tests, I'm going to tell you guys about part of the Enneagram number that I am that I read.
And I was like, I don't want to be this number.
Oh, oh my gosh.
It's terrible.
So yeah.
And yeah, just, just know that.
So we're not trying to put anybody in a box.
Yeah, it's not the end all be all.
It's just informative.
Also, my personality on the 16 personalities has changed like a hundred times.
So like, maybe I do, maybe I've been changing.
So this one, when you take the test, your results come out and you're either a lion,
a monkey, a camel or a turtle.
And you have like, I guess it gives you numbers for your scoring.
And so both I did this and I knew I was like, I sent it to Sarah and I was like, she's a
lion for sure because I'm a lion.
And I was like, and I read it to her and I said, you're way more of a lion than I am.
And then when she showed me her score, what was her score, 11?
Yes.
And mine was 10.
So I was like, ha ha, she was, she was a lion and she was more of a lion than me.
So the leading lion is the classic type A person who loves to task.
They are a doer, which is exactly what Sarah is.
We've talked about this before.
Yes.
You're a task person.
The lion has the ability to tackle large and difficult projects with fearless confidence.
The lion is driven by the accomplishment of the task and is generally more concerned with
reaching the goal, even if it costs relationship, collateral, collateral, collateral.
Yes.
I'm the worst reader.
We shouldn't make, I should let you read this.
You're not a bad reader.
I hate reading out loud.
Since lions are driven by accomplishing tasks, that is what they generally do.
They task.
You will often find lions tackling one project after another without taking a break or stopping
for input from others.
They are the preeminent task masters.
That is 100% Sarah.
And when I hear lion, I feel like that's me because I'm kind of like a loud roaring big
animal that like wants to dominate.
But my second and Sarah's second best, I'm going to go to that one.
That was the camel.
What was your number?
I think I was, you were a six.
So I was, are you sure you were a six?
Yeah.
I think I was a six too.
I was a six because you had three in the other one.
Okay.
So a competent camel tends to focus on the details.
Okay.
And I'm just going to stop there because I feel like I am more of a camel based on the
description than I am a lion.
So I feel like I'm like a mix, but based on the test results, I am a lion and I'm like
way more of a lion than I am a camel.
I'm going to say they tend to focus on the details and on how a project is completed.
They prefer to focus on the smaller tasks and on creating and working within processes
and systems.
And they generally have a logical processing analytical mindset.
They want to follow the steps and the rules that have been laid out and they want sure
that every I is dotted and every T is crossed.
These are the people that read the entire instruction manual for the new microwave in
the break room cover to cover and file it away in an alphabetized color coded filing
cabinet for future reference.
And we both, I read this earlier to us and we were both like, that's us.
That's me.
Well, it's not, I don't, I will throw the directions out in a heartbeat and try to do
something about it.
Oh, I know.
I'm aware.
Because you've seen them in my junk drawer.
Listen, there was a lot of research that needed to go into the equipment that we bought for
this podcast.
I did literally gave no ships.
I did not care.
I knew she was going to do the research and I let her have that because that is just who
she is.
And I like to do it.
I want to show up and talk to y'all and to her.
And that's what I want to do.
And I want to put my end of the bread post out there.
I will let you pick out our food.
I don't care about the food.
Like if somebody picked it.
I mean, I love, yeah.
I like, honestly, you're always like, what do you want?
And I'm like, I don't know.
If somebody could pick out my clothes and my food every day, my life would be so much
easier.
I could do that for you.
Please.
I've asked you before, like I need you and like Jessica or somebody or Melanie or somebody
come style me because I feel like I wear the same black everything all day long every day.
All black everything.
Yeah.
And sometimes I look at myself and I'm like, why am I so drab?
Black looks good on you though.
Yeah.
Sometimes.
So anyway, where was I?
So yeah.
I had to read the entire manual for like everything.
And you know what I really hate?
So I'm going to give an example of this.
So my brother, my older brother for my birthday, got me an outdoor heater, like a, like they
have at restaurants, you know, they look like stand up and they have like the little tent
thing on top.
Yeah.
And my dad and my brother, they were here and they put it together for me that night
that he gave it to me.
And I had the whole time I was thinking, oh my God, they're going to do it.
Because I know them, they're men and they're just like, not going to read the instructions.
They're going to do it.
And it's going to be all messed up.
So the next day I come, I come back in and my dad has got this bag and it's got, it's
full of like screws and like, yes, leftovers.
And then outside they're like little like things, washers and stuff all over the ground
outside.
And I'm like, normally they don't give you this many extras.
Like maybe like one or two, but, uh, I don't think so.
And I'm like, this is weird.
So I kept them and I put them and I found one the other day.
There's one in my room right there by the back door.
Cause I was like, this has to go to the heater.
Well then I'm looking out the window in my dining room and I looked down at the heater
and realized there's like, like a couple of screws on the top of the thing that are not
there.
I sent a picture to my dad and my brother and I was like, seriously?
I was like, you guys didn't read the directions.
Like, and I knew this was going to happen and that makes me crazy.
And that's why I keep all that stuff.
And like, I will be the one that like, I put it all together.
Yeah, like exactly how it was going to go read the instructions.
Even if I, it's like self-explanatory, I'm still going to do it.
I'm a dude when it comes to that.
I don't care when Brandon put together my standup desk that I got for Christmas, he
read every instruction and I had to sit there and just shut up because it would have been
so rude of me to just try to take over the project when I don't even want to read the
instructions.
So I sat there and shut up and let him do his thing.
Yeah.
You should definitely read the instructions cause that's why your bed is halfway falling
apart on one side.
What?
No, that, okay.
You can hold the phone on that one, but, and my dad will be mad too.
Oh, your dad did it.
We did it together.
Yes.
And we could not get the damn screw to go in.
And so it is rigged up and I don't care, but the bed's still together and we've been that
way for over 60 days now.
At least it didn't fall apart like mine did that one day.
Listen, I've already set his own brand inside it.
If anybody's following us, him.
Look, Sarah and I, we haven't told this story yet.
It's a little bit embarrassing.
We were over here working on the podcast and we were like, can we go get in the bed?
It was kind of late and we were like editing.
And so we brought the computer, the laptop and everything.
And Jolene was here, her dog and her dog probably weighs more than us.
Not really.
She's just really tall.
Um, she's probably as tall as me cause I'm about the shortest person ever.
Um, and we're all sitting in the bed.
Like I'm on my side, Sarah's on her side.
Jolene's in the all sides.
Yeah.
And all of a sudden we're just literally just sitting there.
Boom.
And it's like fall through and it's freaking broke.
And I was like, oh my God.
And we get up and I try to look at it because I was like, well, maybe the slats, but I have
like particle, like particle board.
Oh, is it particle board?
Yeah.
Whatever that stuff is.
That's like on top of the slats or whatever.
And it's metal.
I think we have, I have metal things that go across and this, it wasn't that, that broke.
It was the screw that screws it into the sideboard thing.
I was like, oh my God, I can't believe we broke this.
So I had to sleep on the couch at night.
We had to get up.
We were like, okay, we weren't even doing anything crazy.
We were just literally sitting, we weren't even moving.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
I'm like, oh my God, thick AF.
Boom.
Living up to our name.
Luckily Pete fixed it for me.
So that was nice.
All right.
So thanks Pete.
My mom would say, Emily, that's because boys can do some things and girls can't, or wait,
that means that sometimes boys are better at some things than girls are.
And I say middle finger to that.
Next, the camel is generally a linear thinker and they need to know that they have received
all the information that is required before engaging in a new venture or project.
Above all else, the camel is motivated by the details and wants to ensure the quality
of the work.
Are you not that way?
I am.
No.
I'm very much that way.
I need to have a lot of information.
I want to have a lot of it.
I can't stand it when people are like, just show up.
And I'm like, no, just do this.
And I'm like, no, I need to have the stuff, the information.
Okay.
So the next one, monkey, a much loved monkey.
I think Rose is a much loved monkey because we had to take this test at my old job.
Much loved monkey is a personality that loves people.
They love to laugh.
They love to tell stories and they're very verbal.
We're both of that.
Yeah.
But like we're more lion apparently.
Absolutely.
This personality is generally extroverted.
Yes, both check.
And it's comfortable in groups.
Yes, both of us check.
They love social settings and love to connect with others.
Yes, check for both of us.
Is have a wonderful skill of truly caring about and understanding people.
Maybe you, I don't know if I'm that way.
I mean, I care about people, but I'm not the greatest at all that.
You know what I mean?
I do care about people.
I love you guys.
I love our listeners and all my friends and family.
They have the natural ability to read.
Are you saying your good night prayers?
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
Do you do that too?
Did you do like, God bless mommy and daddy and grandma and grandpa?
I'm sure I did.
And we did all, and we had it all.
I don't remember it, but my older brother, he does it with his kids now.
And I'm like, how do you remember that?
We literally had like everybody.
It was like, it was the craziest thing.
Like everybody in our family.
Okay.
Where was I?
They have the natural ability to read others' feelings with accuracy.
They're natural connectors and thus can be powerful influencers.
I want to be that.
I want to be an influencer and I want to be a monkey.
Honestly, it would be so much more fun.
I want to be a monkey.
It would be so much more fun to stop stressing out about details and being an A personality,
be more fun to be a monkey.
However, oh, however, monkeys.
You guys can wear your feelings on your sleeves.
You're like that.
Yeah.
I'm not really like that.
Actually, I'm not like that at all.
I don't really have feelings.
I don't think my mom one time told me I cried when my grandmother was like in the hospital
one time and she was like, you do have feelings.
I was like 15 or 12 or something.
I don't know how I was really young or like, you know, middle school, high school age.
And she hugged me and she was like, oh, you do have feelings.
It's like, I don't think I've ever cried.
Melanie.
She has two feelings.
She has two.
What are they?
Just two of them.
You don't know what feelings they are.
So like happy and sad.
Well, it should be like you hurt my one feeling.
You have a lot of feelings.
About four thousand.
You act like you don't, though.
A hundred percent.
I don't want people to know I have feelings.
And now I'm telling them.
That's why I think you're an eight.
That's why I think you have you're an eight personality for the Enneagram.
We'll talk about that later.
OK, so they're sensitive creatures.
Oh, that's you.
And they can be hurt with insensitive words or behavior.
That's you.
They can react with emotion instead of with a thought through.
I think that should have been like a thorough thought or thought through.
Maybe or think.
Basically you can act with emotion without thinking it through.
Yeah.
Do you do that?
Sometimes depends.
I'm a very logical arguer.
If I've had time to process, if I haven't, then I might cut you with my words for sure.
Yeah, I'm not like that.
No, I'm not really like getting into it at all.
OK, tranquil turtle is next.
That is not me.
I got a whole one.
One that you don't you might there might be some stuff in here.
OK, tranquil turtle is person oriented, not to be confused with people oriented.
Turtles tend to be driven by a few significant relationships.
So they're like they got their boyfriend and their best friend and then they're like BFFs
and that's it.
They can like go out in like groups, I guess.
Turtles turtles.
I love that turtle is such a weird word.
It's like saying Thorc over and over again.
Turtle turtle turtle turtle.
What's that from?
Literally no idea.
Turtle is some movie or something.
Anyways, sorry, I digress a lot.
I hopefully it's funny for you guys.
Let's see.
Turtles for it.
Flourish flour flourish flourish flourish.
How do you still flower?
F.L.O.U.R.
That's how it's spelled flourish.
But I know it's flourish.
I'm just being jokey.
Turtles flourish.
Flourish.
No, I don't know what it is.
No, I can't say it.
Oh my God.
Turtles flourish.
Flourish.
Am I saying it right?
Flourish.
Yes.
Turtles flourish when they are purposeful.
I don't know if I keep going.
We're not cutting.
They are purposeful and meaningful one on one conversations.
They like to go deep.
Trust is vital to the success of any relationship developed with turtles.
Turtles.
Consequently, turtles can teach us much about that important trait of trust.
They need time to process and think before making a major decision or for that matter,
any decision at all.
I'm kind of that way.
I think I feel like I that's what I need.
The turtle possesses wisdom and is an intuitive thinker.
I think I'm wise.
Just kidding.
I'm probably not really wise.
What do you think?
You think I'm wise?
Yeah.
Oh, thanks.
I'm an owl.
Who?
Okay.
While the turtle may not use very many words when they do speak, you should listen.
Okay.
That is not me.
I use a lot of words, but you should listen to them.
Yeah, absolutely.
You should listen to this podcast.
The turtle has a keen insight and the ability to make strong, effective decisions.
See me.
I don't think I'm that way, especially during a crisis.
I think I'm that way.
I think I'm really good about that, but maybe not.
Generally, they do not panic.
Okay.
Well, no, I mean, I don't think that you panic when other people are panicking.
I don't panic.
If nobody else is panicking, I kind of panic.
It's weird.
I can see that because-
I try to like, if other people are panicking, I'm like, oh my God, we don't need anybody
else.
I have to be the one to hold it together.
Yeah.
No, I'm going to panic.
But if nobody else is panicking, I'm like, why is nobody panicking?
I'm like, this is not good.
Somebody's got to be panicking.
Do you not remember the very last night when we were in San Diego and I didn't have a flight
and I was losing my shit?
Yes.
You were freaking out and I was just like-
As if I was going to get to the airport and they were never going to let me get on an
airplane to get home ever again.
Yeah.
I think you had the next day off work too.
No, I didn't.
Oh, you didn't?
Oh, well, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, of course I did.
Yeah, you did.
I had all day to get back, but-
Yeah, you were really upset about that.
Well, I think it's one of those things where like, I mean, of course I've traveled alone
or whatever, but it's much better to do with people and I was on Jessica's flight coming
back with her and I wanted it to be that way.
I think I also get anxious about travel and getting to the airport in time and like-
Oh my gosh, me too.
... and all that kind of stuff.
I will be like five hours early to the airport and people... It's because I'm not missing
that flight.
Right.
And people will be like, we don't need to leave at that time.
And I'm like, yes, we do because you never know.
The line might be backed up or whatever.
I'm like, I'm sorry.
There could be an accident on the way to the airport.
I totally agree.
Yeah.
I'm not missing the flight.
I'm not getting there early enough to have to sit there.
I don't care.
I'm not trying to run and catch a flight.
And the time it would take to have to like-
I don't run.
I'm fat.
I'm not running.
Okay?
I'm getting there early and I'm getting my Chick-fil-A or my Starbucks.
Right.
Yeah.
And the time it would take for you... Okay.
So you getting there early versus you having to miss your flight and miss all the stuff
that you were supposed to be at and then talking to the people to rearrange your flight.
Unless you're like a gold platinum medallion, diamond, whatever it is.
Right.
And they're going to be like, oh, yes, ma'am.
Yes, sir.
We will do anything for you because you spend a gajillion dollars on Delta or whoever.
It's going to take a while.
And I mean, like get there another hour early.
Yeah.
For sure.
So anyways, those are our personality tests for today.
I know.
I talked a lot.
My mouth is hurting.
I told you this was your episode.
I wish Sarah would talk some.
I do.
I'm making her talk in the next one.
We're doing some more research.
I'm going to... Yeah.
I'll do some more research about my enneagram and come a little bit better prepared.
Don't you worry because I'm going to have lots to say about the enneagram.
Oh, we know.
Oh, I love it.
It's so great.
Anyway, how about we have Sarah do a little talking now?
I guess I can do that.
Well thanks for being here with us this week.
This is a really cool topic to discuss.
We're going to kind of do a two-parter, if you will, so we'll be back next week with
the enneagram and some other things.
So in the meantime, hope you enjoy this episode and go out there, like, subscribe, follow,
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Bye.
ABCDEFG, I have to go.