1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 I didn't hear what you said. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Thomas is always like, I can't hear you and I'm like, can you not hear me or are you not 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,000 listening? 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 He's like, you just are so soft spoken. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,400 I was like, I don't think so. 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,880 I only think you're soft spoken when you want to be, but today's not one of those days. 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,600 We have a special guest in the Emily Cramsey recording studio. 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,000 I guess it's the Thick AF podcast recording studio. 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,600 It is my baby child sister. 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,280 So welcome to the Thick AF podcast. 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,720 And Jerry Marie. 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,720 Jerry Marie is here with us. 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,760 We had this discussion about my full name and you just released it to the wild. 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,760 You don't like it? 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,760 I released it to the wild. 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,280 You can take it out if you want, but Jerry Marie, I was going to say that it kind of 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,160 sounds like a porn star's name or not a porn star or like somebody famous. 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,160 Like Alexis Texas? 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:15,960 No, that's like a stripper name, a porn star like Jerry Marie, like Anna Nicole. 20 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,960 Like Geraldine something. 21 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:21,840 Bummer. 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,840 You know what? 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,640 I always forget that your name is, it is Geraldine, isn't it? 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,640 No, it's just Jerry. 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Because there I know a lot of people Jerry, but like Jerry Geraldine and Marie are kind 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,600 of like old lady. 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,600 Geraldine Marie. 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,600 That's a lot. 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,920 That would be a lot mouthful. 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Geraldine Marie. 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,080 I wonder what you know what? 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,160 What is our friend Geraldine's middle name? 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,160 I do not know. 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,160 I don't know if I ever found out. 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,880 You want me to phone a friend and find out real quick? 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,880 No, no, no. 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,400 Why don't you phone your Facebook? 38 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,760 It's probably something really long. 39 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:59,120 Like she probably has two middle names too. 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,640 So welcome Jerry Marie, porn star. 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Thank you for having me. 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,520 We're excited to have you. 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,520 Yeah. 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,520 Cheers everybody. 45 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,120 I know. 46 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,640 So what's going on? 47 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:12,640 Why are you in town? 48 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:17,520 Do we, you know, are you sharing that information? 49 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,240 I am in town because our father just had a hip replacement. 50 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,080 That is an aggressive word. 51 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:30,640 And you know, they've got a lot of things they need help with out at the house. 52 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:31,640 Yeah. 53 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:37,800 So Charles had a hip replacement on Monday and he is back at home now. 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,960 But yeah, they got dogs and horses and all that jazz. 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,840 So Jerry and I are essentially the farm duty girls for the week. 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,840 Yes. 57 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,400 So shoveling shit every morning. 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,560 Y'all don't look like shoveling type of girls. 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Listen, we- 60 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,560 That is a compliment. 61 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,560 Thank you. 62 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Yeah. 63 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,200 But we, we like, I spent my first year of college living with them shoveling shit every 64 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,200 single day as my like- 65 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,880 You shoveled shit your freshman year of college? 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,300 Every single day. 67 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:06,920 I was living there too. 68 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:07,920 That was my chore. 69 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:11,760 Sarah's like, I don't know, I'm still asleep. 70 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,000 You worked and went to night school so you can worry around. 71 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Fair enough. 72 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Yeah. 73 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Yeah. 74 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000 I was shoveling. 75 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,720 I wasn't there a whole lot. 76 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Well, so that's not really fair. 77 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Just because you work, go to night school and have a boyfriend doesn't mean you don't 78 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,840 get to shovel you know what. 79 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,640 Well, I had also lived down here for like a year by myself and helped with all that. 80 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:35,200 I helped build the damn fence that fences the horses. 81 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:42,960 But also I am now the sole like out of town house sitting person and I have shoveled shit 82 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,560 many times and Jerry hadn't had to do it in a minute. 83 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,160 Listen, I do it every day for all four of my animals. 84 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,680 It's just not that big. 85 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Yeah. 86 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Until the fall, I had to walk my dogs every day, pick up that shit and my dogs are still 87 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,960 larger than all yours combined. 88 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Wait, what kind of dogs do you have? 89 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,280 Well, I guess dog. 90 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,440 I mean my dogs, I had two black labs. 91 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:21,120 Now I just have one, but she's a big girl and now she's found on the side of the road 92 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,120 in Mobile. 93 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,120 Mobile. 94 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:28,100 When I adopted her when I was living in Atlanta and then moved back to Mobile. 95 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:31,640 So brought her to Mobile back to her home. 96 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,720 And then I moved in with my boyfriend and he has two dogs. 97 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,040 So now I have three dogs. 98 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,640 But now we have a yard. 99 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,520 So I don't have to pick up shit every day, but you know, you still got to pick it up. 100 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,120 Yeah, but they also have a really great contraption for the dog shit. 101 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,360 No, let's not advertise this because it's not one of those things. 102 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,800 It's like a diaper genie. 103 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:57,120 It's a dog poop septic tank. 104 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:04,840 And you buy this contraption and you buy these tablets that are digester tablets and you 105 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:13,080 dig this big asshole in your yard and then you, I guess cover to the top of it and you 106 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:18,760 stick this thing in it that like is a lid that opens and closes. 107 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:24,760 So you open it and you put your shit in it and you put a digester tablet in it. 108 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,760 I don't know, maybe like once a week. 109 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,000 And it's supposed to be like a septic tank basically. 110 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,400 And it digests dog poop back into like the ground. 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Does it work? 112 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:44,480 Well, when you have three dogs and you have the size of a hole that was dug, it is not 113 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,480 efficient. 114 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,360 And you're also supposed to put water in it. 115 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,480 And now it's kind of just like this watery dog poop. 116 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,480 Oh gross. 117 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,480 I didn't know that. 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,480 It's like soupy poopy. 119 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Or poopy soupy. 120 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,920 And I mean now it like legitimately isn't going anywhere. 121 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:06,640 And we haven't put anything in it in a long time because we knew it wasn't working. 122 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,600 Even the digestion tablets are not working anymore. 123 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,600 It's not enough. 124 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,600 The hole's not big enough. 125 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Oh geez. 126 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,600 So yeah. 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Yeah. 128 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,600 Well, who came up with that? 129 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,600 So you have a literal shit hole in your backyard. 130 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,560 We have a shit hole in the backyard. 131 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,720 I mean, if I thought it was acceptable to put on Instagram, I'd take a picture of it 132 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,760 and post it, but that's not going to happen. 133 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:31,760 No. 134 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,760 I don't even want to go anywhere near it. 135 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,760 I haven't checked it in a while. 136 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,760 Like, I don't know. 137 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,360 It might've gone down, but I don't think once it goes down, we're going to continue to use 138 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,360 it. 139 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,360 Does it smell bad in the summertime? 140 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,360 No. 141 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,360 No. 142 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,360 Okay. 143 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,360 Well, that's good because I have like a little trash can out here. 144 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,600 And if you go outside, don't go out there because right now the trash doesn't come till Thursday 145 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,360 and I have three dogs and I, and then sometimes other people's dogs come back here and poop 146 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,360 and they don't clean it up. 147 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,360 So I like pick it up. 148 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,960 And I think I'm like, did I miss my dog poop? 149 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,000 Do you need to be reporting that to the HOA? 150 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,200 I was on the HOA, but I quit like yesterday. 151 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Well, at my old place I lived. 152 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,120 I still live. 153 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,480 You know, part of me wants to like push the envelope a little bit and just get us like 154 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,800 a cease and desist so we can like talk about, talk shit about it on the podcast and just 155 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,800 see what the fuck happens. 156 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,800 But like, 157 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,800 Wait, do they listen to the podcast? 158 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,800 Well, some people around here do. 159 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,800 Yeah. 160 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,400 They're like, people at the pool have stopped me and been like, I was listening to the podcast 161 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,960 and I'm like, Oh God. 162 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:36,440 So at my old apartment complex, we had this issue and they sent out notices that everybody 163 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:43,360 had to have their dog brought in for DNA testing and they, did they pay for it? 164 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:44,360 They paid for it. 165 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,840 They swabbed the inside of your dog's mouth. 166 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:52,800 They sent it into a company and you got a tag and it created a profile for your animal. 167 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,680 But if they found any pit or anything like that, any poop, yeah, that somebody, oh wait, 168 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,680 the poop. 169 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,680 Yes. 170 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,680 It's poop. 171 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Wait, they DNA'd the poop? 172 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,680 Yeah. 173 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,320 So if they found any poop, then they would test it and they'd send it off. 174 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,440 And if it was a match to your dog, then you got fined. 175 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,440 What fancy apartment were you living at that had the money to do that? 176 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,400 I think I'm shocked by it. 177 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Listen, my apartment complex did that. 178 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,400 Greta had to do that. 179 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,240 It was like two owners, two or three owners ago at my complex, they called it poo prints. 180 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,240 And they did that. 181 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,600 And if your, yes, your, your first infraction was a hundred dollars. 182 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,600 Your second was 200. 183 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,320 The third was 300 and then you got kicked out. 184 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,080 No, I think our third was you got, maybe even the second you got kicked out. 185 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,080 But here's my problem with that. 186 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,720 If you got any Karen that wants to fuck with you, then all that's going to happen is they 187 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,400 could watch you throw your dog's shit away and then they could bring it in that same 188 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,920 bag to the office. 189 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,400 And that's some bullshit. 190 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,960 I think that that, first of all, that is like a, like a violation of privacy. 191 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,280 It was pretty wild. 192 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,280 That's really messed up. 193 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,640 I mean, I took care of my dogs and cleaned up after them, so I didn't care. 194 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,640 But then I was worried sometimes when I would go out of town, if I had someone house sitting 195 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,640 and would take my dogs out because you have to walk them. 196 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,160 I would get nervous that they might not like pick up after them. 197 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,600 And then I was going to get in trouble. 198 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,600 I didn't even think about that. 199 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,200 At least you had a dog park. 200 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,520 We didn't have that. 201 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Yeah. 202 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,120 And I don't know if they were like monitoring the dog park or whatever, but I mean, I was 203 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,720 very lucky and have never really had to do anything with Greta or now with Jolene. 204 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:39,440 I had somebody come walk Jolene when we went to Atlanta for Giggly Squad and that was it. 205 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Shout out Pagan, Hannah. 206 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,640 I know. 207 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,640 We had fun. 208 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,400 I never really listened to them or anything until we went to that. 209 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,240 And you're like, Giggly Squad, we're going to see Giggles. 210 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,640 And I'm like, what the hell is Giggly Squad? 211 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,440 And that was a shit show of a damn night. 212 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,880 I thought it was fun. 213 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,200 I mean, I had fun. 214 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,560 It was just a long night and it was longer than we thought it was going to be. 215 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:02,000 We actually talked about that today. 216 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,800 So Sarah texts me and is like, hey, we're going to go to Trader Joe's and get this pizza. 217 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,160 Are you okay with this type of pizza? 218 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,120 And I was like, yeah, you always pick out good food, so I'm good with that. 219 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,000 And then I was like, wait a minute, just kidding. 220 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,880 There was this one time when you ordered this pizza, what was it called? 221 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,760 It was some, I don't know what the place was called or what the pizza was called, but we 222 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,520 went to some restaurant before and it was an Italian place and we got this pizza that 223 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,760 was like a white pizza and had gorgonzola on it. 224 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,560 You would have thought that they, I don't even know where gorgonzola comes from. 225 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:37,560 It was like the strongest gorgonzola you've ever had. 226 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:38,560 Oh, sick. 227 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:41,560 They put it all on the pizza instead of just little sprinkles. 228 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:43,560 It tasted so bad. 229 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:46,240 It was just like so, it was so overwhelming. 230 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,240 Yeah, it was like a lot. 231 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,240 We couldn't eat it. 232 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,240 We had to order another pizza to go. 233 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,240 We ordered a cheese pizza to go and then Santana's bitch ass. 234 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,240 You went back to the cheese. 235 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:59,960 You didn't even try to like get some type of topping to help with the flavor. 236 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:03,400 It had prosciutto or something on it and like it had other stuff. 237 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,400 There was, yeah. 238 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,320 Oh, that was back in your not pepperoni days. 239 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,320 Yeah. 240 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,320 So we ordered cheese pizza. 241 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,320 She eats pepperoni now? 242 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,320 Apparently. 243 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,000 We ordered one hot honey that we got at the store. 244 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,000 I don't eat pepperoni either. 245 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,000 No, we're cheese pizza eaters. 246 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 We cheese pizza. 247 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 And it's not because of Sarah and she doesn't eat it because of me. 248 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 We just, that's what we like. 249 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 No, pizza. 250 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,600 So we ordered a cheese pizza to go because I was like, we didn't eat very much at dinner 251 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,080 because we didn't eat our fucking pizza. 252 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,080 And I was like, I'm going to be hungry after this. 253 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,440 We're on our way home. 254 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,440 And at one point, and finally I figure out Santana's sat in the front seat. 255 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,440 No. 256 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,840 We asked for the pizza and you handed it to her at one point. 257 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,060 And then we stopped to get lottery tickets and I kept winning. 258 00:11:44,060 --> 00:11:45,060 And so I was in a, yeah. 259 00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:46,060 Scratch offs. 260 00:11:46,060 --> 00:11:51,880 I kept winning like 10 times and they were like, no more. 261 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,560 And by the time I was done with all the scratch offs, Santana had eaten her entire pizza. 262 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:57,560 I was so mad. 263 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:58,560 She was really pissed. 264 00:11:58,560 --> 00:11:59,560 Like she was like, what the hell? 265 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:05,760 We were sitting at a gas station at a pump because Erin needed to get gas. 266 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,760 I went in and peed. 267 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,760 I tried to buy beer. 268 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,240 Apparently it was too late for that. 269 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:14,160 You can buy lottery tickets at any damn hour, but I can't get me a big gulp of truly or 270 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,160 anything like that for the damn ride home. 271 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,160 Well, yeah, I mean, because they knew it was you. 272 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,160 You were probably not supposed to do that. 273 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,240 It was a Saturday night. 274 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,240 One of those you win money. 275 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,240 Or was it? 276 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,240 It was Friday. 277 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,240 It was Friday. 278 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,240 Yeah, that's some bullshit. 279 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:34,120 Well, and we don't get the, so for everybody else that doesn't know this, we live in Alabama 280 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,360 and we don't have the lottery here and it's so sad. 281 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,760 So like, anytime you go to Georgia, you're like, yeah, lottery tickets. 282 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:48,880 Literally the one, you know how someone in California just won that billion dollar power 283 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,960 baller Mega Man. 284 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:51,960 Yeah. 285 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,480 We almost drove to Mississippi just to buy some tickets. 286 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,840 You can't get it in Florida. 287 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:02,440 Well, Mississippi is technically a little closer on that side where I live. 288 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,440 Really? 289 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,920 How far is it for you? 290 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,600 I mean, maybe like 30 minutes. 291 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,600 Oh, wow. 292 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,600 Oh my God. 293 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,600 I'm so jealous. 294 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,000 They used to be like that when I lived in Auburn. 295 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,320 I could drive like, yeah, you go to exit to go to frisky whiskey, frisky whiskey. 296 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,320 Yeah. 297 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,800 They have cheap alcohol too. 298 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,800 Yeah. 299 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,800 I used to go during college and we'd get in lines to buy lottery tickets there. 300 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,880 The very first time that I ever bought Jerry alcohol when I was 21 and she wasn't, they 301 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,560 made us go to the big rat gas station. 302 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:32,560 Big cat. 303 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:33,560 Big rat. 304 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:34,560 It looks like a rat. 305 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:35,560 Big rat. 306 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:36,560 Where is this? 307 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:37,560 Here? 308 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:38,560 In Auburn. 309 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:39,560 Oh, in Auburn. 310 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:40,560 Wait, where is it? 311 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:41,560 Is it still there? 312 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:42,560 I don't know, but it's called the big cat. 313 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:43,800 It's not the big rat. 314 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,080 It's right next to the road that takes you to Kroger. 315 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,080 Yeah. 316 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,080 Like on Dane Road. 317 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,080 I used to live on Dane. 318 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,080 It's on Opelika Road. 319 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,160 But anyways, it has a gas station on one side and a liquor store on the other. 320 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Oh, that one. 321 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,160 It's right there. 322 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,160 Yes. 323 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,160 It's still called the big cat. 324 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,160 It used to be across from where the bowling alley is. 325 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,160 Yes. 326 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,160 Yeah. 327 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,160 So I go in there and they want juice. 328 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,160 It's what? 329 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,160 Kind of sketchy. 330 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,160 It was not that bad. 331 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,160 Oh, so you made me go into a sketchy gas station. 332 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,160 Right by the railroad tracks. 333 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,040 It's the gas station we all went into. 334 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,160 So needless to say, do you want to know what their request was? 335 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Do you remember what it was? 336 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,160 What was it? 337 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,160 I know where you're going with this, but I don't remember the alcohol request. 338 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,160 It was vodka. 339 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,160 Okay. 340 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,160 And what was the mixer? 341 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,160 Grape co. 342 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Oh, like I love Diet, Greggy Picot. 343 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,160 No. 344 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,160 So listen, after I buy this for them. 345 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,160 And Peach Nehi. 346 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,660 I think we went to like one frat party for like a little bit. 347 00:14:32,660 --> 00:14:33,660 And then we went back. 348 00:14:33,660 --> 00:14:37,520 The guy she was dating at the time lived at Creekside and we like hung out there. 349 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:44,600 And that two liter of Grape co rolled around in the back of my Honda Civic for months after 350 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,600 that. 351 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,600 And finally I had to get it out. 352 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,160 It was never opened and it went straight in the trash. 353 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,160 Wait. 354 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,160 So what did you drink? 355 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Just straight vodka? 356 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,160 I have no idea. 357 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,160 I don't know. 358 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,160 I don't even know what I drank. 359 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,160 I don't remember. 360 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,160 That's good. 361 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,160 Good night. 362 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,160 Good night. 363 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,680 I'm pretty sure that was the time we had the goat. 364 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Like an actual goat? 365 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,680 Did y'all steal a goat? 366 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,680 Y'all stole a goat. 367 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:10,680 No. 368 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,680 Not us. 369 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:17,880 The fraternity party we went to was, it was like a farm party. 370 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,880 Yeah. 371 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,880 Like a hoedown type party. 372 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,680 They had like hay bales in the house. 373 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,680 So it was like a K.A. probably. 374 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:25,680 Different fraternity. 375 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Yeah, different. 376 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:34,200 But they went to a farm and asked this guy when they saw these goats on the side of the 377 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,800 road if they could borrow one. 378 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,440 So they took a baby goat for the weekend. 379 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,280 They borrowed the baby goat for free. 380 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,480 They brought it back. 381 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:49,040 And that same night at that same party, there was a girl there that was singing and she 382 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,880 was a former stripper at the Fuzzy Duck in Gadsden. 383 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,880 What? 384 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,520 I made friends with her in the bathroom. 385 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,400 Wait, there was a strip club in Gadsden called the Fuzzy Duck? 386 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,400 Yes. 387 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Connie can confirm. 388 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,680 I wonder why it's called a duck. 389 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,680 Is that kind of like a hairy vagina? 390 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Damn. 391 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Girl, I was not going to go there. 392 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Like a Buzzer Duck? 393 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,680 Oh, y'all. 394 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,680 What'd you say? 395 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,680 Like a beaver. 396 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:13,680 A beaver. 397 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:14,680 Yeah. 398 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,680 Oh my God. 399 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Oh my God. 400 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,680 I'm trying. 401 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Are you trying to Google and see if it ever existed? 402 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,480 No. 403 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Is this the same lead singer lady that was a Playboy? 404 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,080 Yes. 405 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,080 In Playboy? 406 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,080 Yes. 407 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,080 I remember this. 408 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,080 I can't remember. 409 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Her name was like Jemma or some shit like that. 410 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:42,440 That's like my name, but with a G. Our names mixed together without the Ali. 411 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,440 Okay. 412 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,120 So we're going to cut the chit chat and get into the FMK. 413 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Yeah. 414 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,120 All right. 415 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,120 Are y'all ready for this? 416 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,120 I'm nervous. 417 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,120 All right. 418 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,920 So we're doing infamous cult leaders. 419 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,520 Number one, Charles Manson. 420 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,440 Number two, well, and everybody knows who Charles Manson is. 421 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Number two, David Koresh. 422 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,720 He is the guy that was a leader of the Waco. 423 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,920 I don't know if y'all saw those documentaries or whatnot. 424 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,200 I don't know much about it, if I'm being honest. 425 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,080 I've seen several of the like documentaries. 426 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,440 I watched the scripted one, I think. 427 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,880 Oh, the scripted one. 428 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:12,880 Oh, yes. 429 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:13,880 Good stuff. 430 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:14,880 Okay. 431 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,720 And then number three, Warren Jeffs. 432 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,240 And he was the one that was at the Keep Sweet, Pray and Obey, which I'm going to need y'all 433 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,400 to like refresh my memory on him. 434 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,400 I can. 435 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,640 Oh, he, I mean, I have a whole. 436 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,600 That's the title of the documentary. 437 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Yeah. 438 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Title. 439 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,600 Yeah. 440 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,080 He was a fundamentalist for the LDS basically. 441 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,080 Okay. 442 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,680 So you just do your FMK and explain why. 443 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,280 So then that'll help me understand which one. 444 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,280 Can I admit something? 445 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,280 You said everyone knows who Charles Manson is. 446 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,320 I know who he is, but I don't know much about like his, my sister's looking at me like I'm 447 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,320 a crazy. 448 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,000 I don't have you know, I've been reading the news. 449 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,600 Do you not see the lady that just got let out of jail? 450 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:52,600 One of his followers? 451 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,600 No. 452 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,600 Yeah. 453 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:55,600 He has like, I don't have the news. 454 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,600 Remember? 455 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,720 So Charles Manson was a cult leader. 456 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,320 I forgot what his cult was called. 457 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,600 But he basically like murder people. 458 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,600 Cool. 459 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,600 Cool. 460 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,600 Guy. 461 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,600 No, like that was in town. 462 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,440 Oh, I think that's the one I was listening to when we all came in. 463 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,640 All right, Jerry, you said you have opinions. 464 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,320 I'm going to let you go first. 465 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,320 All right. 466 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,720 I mean, we're not fucking we're not marrying anyone. 467 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,440 But I will say I have to choose though. 468 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,400 I will say that two of these people did murder people. 469 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,360 And one of them hasn't technically murdered anyone. 470 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:33,360 So which one? 471 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,640 So David Koresh didn't murder anybody, right? 472 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,640 No. 473 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:37,640 He yes, he did. 474 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,640 He did murder people. 475 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:44,600 He was part of the what is it called? 476 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,640 They had like a showdown with the police. 477 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,640 There was a massacre. 478 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:48,640 I didn't know he murdered anybody. 479 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,640 Yeah, he was. 480 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,640 Children died in a fire. 481 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,200 Well, he was just technically in his opinion was protecting his family. 482 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,200 Okay. 483 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:07,720 Well, they also like had an artillery of weapons that they chose to amass in case anything 484 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,920 like that happened so that they were well equipped to defend themselves, which meant 485 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,840 murdering people. 486 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,840 That's true. 487 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,800 So okay, so we're saying that Warren Jeffs didn't murder anybody. 488 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:19,800 Warren Jeffs. 489 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,080 So I don't know from my understanding has not murdered anyone. 490 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,080 I mean, Charles Manson. 491 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,080 That's a given. 492 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,160 No, I can talk about Warren Jeffs in a little bit. 493 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,320 So he's an old disgusting white man. 494 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,400 Yeah, he looks disgusting, like more like a pervert, like he would probably kill you. 495 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,400 Yes. 496 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,300 And then have sex with your corpse. 497 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:42,840 So I think I would just look at his face in that picture. 498 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,840 This one right here. 499 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,160 I mean, the other two are just not like viable options. 500 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,240 You know, nothing is a viable option. 501 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,120 I think I'm just going to they're all getting killed. 502 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:55,120 I agree with that. 503 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:59,880 Okay, but so I'm going to choose because this is how a kill goes and we just have to choose. 504 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:06,760 Okay, so if I had to choose, I would I would kill Warren Jeffs. 505 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,320 I don't care that he hasn't killed anybody. 506 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,240 He's really freaky and looks really crazy. 507 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:20,480 I would fuck Charles Manson and then I would kill or I would marry Mary, Mary David Koresh 508 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,880 because I feel like I would be able to get away from David Koresh, Charles Manson. 509 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,640 I don't feel like I could get away from him. 510 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,640 He seemed a little crazier. 511 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,240 And Warren Jeffs, like I just can't even look at his face. 512 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,520 He's just really creepy. 513 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:43,320 Well, Warren Jeffs would, I mean, be like banging his like offspring at some levels. 514 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960 So like that's how did David Koresh did me, I think. 515 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:53,360 Yes, David Koresh was also like having sex with children, not the people he he brought 516 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:58,880 his wife into this whole thing like and then made himself the leader of it and like that 517 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,000 he was the prophet and all these people followed him and he like brainwashed the shit out of 518 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:10,160 her and Charles Manson is just fucking nuts. 519 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,800 If we're going by attractiveness, though, let me go back and look at. 520 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,400 OK, so I'm looking at some images. 521 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Charles Manson, in my opinion, looks psychotic. 522 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,320 Yeah, but he still looks better than David Koresh has like a mullet. 523 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,040 And I know that mullets are apparently in nowadays, but not with the females. 524 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,640 They're only in with the dudes like dudes like mullet. 525 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,760 And I'm sorry. 526 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:34,760 I don't know. 527 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,760 Like David Koresh looks more normal. 528 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,380 Sort of sort of. 529 00:21:39,380 --> 00:21:41,760 But I feel like, OK, I'm going to pick. 530 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,400 That's why I said it would marry him. 531 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,400 That's true. 532 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,400 All right. 533 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,400 Well, I'm going to pick now. 534 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,040 OK, that kind of made it like normal. 535 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,640 Well, I am going to marry Charles Manson. 536 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,640 What? 537 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,980 He's like living in Hollywood, rubbing elbows with famous people. 538 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:01,680 So let you know. 539 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,920 Why not? 540 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,400 Maybe I'll make some friends. 541 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,760 Who knows that he'll want to murder? 542 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,760 Well, yeah. 543 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,400 And then he'll tell you to go murder them. 544 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,400 And yeah, and then you will. 545 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,400 OK. 546 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,400 Charles, Charlie. 547 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,720 OK, Charlie, I do whatever you say. 548 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,720 I don't know about that. 549 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,200 And well, I'm sucking you know, you know what? 550 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,200 I don't know. 551 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,920 I feel like that's what girls did back then for him. 552 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,800 And then you'd be living in jail for the rest of your life. 553 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Yeah. 554 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,600 And then we'd be talking about you like the crazy lady that just got out of jail because 555 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,600 you were his follower. 556 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,600 Well, fine. 557 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,600 Then I'm marrying Warren Jeffs. 558 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,600 I'm not marrying that other guy. 559 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,600 No, don't marry Warren Jeffs. 560 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,600 Why? 561 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,600 You can get away from him after I'm done. 562 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,240 Yeah, you could because Warren Jeffs had like 80 wives. 563 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,240 Oh, yeah. 564 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,760 They ain't keeping track of all of you. 565 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,840 OK, see, I don't know much about I need to watch like a thing about him. 566 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,840 I can talk about it. 567 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,840 Do we want to transition into that? 568 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Yeah, transition into him. 569 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,840 Yeah. 570 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,840 All right. 571 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Wait, Jerry, you never answered. 572 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,840 Are you going to answer? 573 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,840 OK. 574 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:12,080 I think I'd kill Charles Manson because he's just so fucked up in that, you know, and David 575 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,640 Koresh. 576 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,080 Maybe I'd marry him, too. 577 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,080 I think, yeah. 578 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,080 Wait, that means I got to fuck. 579 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,360 Yeah, the weird thing is that probably has STDs. 580 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,320 No, OK, OK, OK. 581 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,720 You could have a sexless marriage. 582 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,840 This is so hard. 583 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,880 This is a good one. 584 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,240 OK, maybe I'm marrying Warren. 585 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,240 See, it's not that bad of an idea. 586 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,800 He's got so many wives that you could just like walk away and he would not. 587 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,800 Well, also, you can't have sex with 80 people in one day. 588 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,040 He's also old as shit, so he's probably not having that much sex. 589 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,520 Like Hugh Hefner style where like they didn't really have sex. 590 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,520 I think they did. 591 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,840 I watched the documentary about the Playboy. 592 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,280 I've seen part of it. 593 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,280 It's really crazy. 594 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,280 I have. 595 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,280 It's wild. 596 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,280 Yeah. 597 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,240 But that was also over a span of many, many years. 598 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,080 Yeah, he probably got old and couldn't get it up anymore. 599 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,360 But I'm sure he had Viagra and things. 600 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:19,440 And then you had to do it like a lot longer because it was like fake erection for like 601 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,440 hours. 602 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,640 So hearing something, I don't know if it was like an audio part of like Holly Madison's 603 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,640 book. 604 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,640 I love her. 605 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,680 Or I do. 606 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,840 Or if it was part of this documentary, but in girls talking about it, I think it might 607 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,480 have been where I started it and they were talking about like how every night was movie 608 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:46,380 night and they would like go into his room, lay in his bed and then you had to like stay 609 00:24:46,380 --> 00:24:47,380 after. 610 00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:48,380 Yes. 611 00:24:48,380 --> 00:24:54,440 So he would like pick someone maybe to stay after or like multiple people. 612 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,120 He would tell people to go to the room or he would he would send his girls like his 613 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:04,480 girlfriend to go out and pick girls from the party or whatever to come in and hang out 614 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,480 with them. 615 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:12,180 And then it turned into like a crazy sex party with like wild toys and whatever he was doing. 616 00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:15,160 Maybe I'm thinking of from like the Girls Next Door show. 617 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,560 I loved that show too. 618 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,600 And it made me I wanted honestly before I knew all this stuff. 619 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,320 Oh, they romanticized the fuck out of it. 620 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,880 I was like if I if I ever did anything like that, I would be on Playboy because it's like 621 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,880 classy. 622 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,440 No, they made you think that like it was a good the good thing. 623 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,440 Absolutely. 624 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,600 And that they took care of those girls on their show. 625 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,600 They made it. 626 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,360 They were so normal seeming and they were sweet. 627 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:42,280 But that's how you keep the veil on things. 628 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,520 So messed up. 629 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,520 Absolutely. 630 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,520 And these cult leaders like Hugh Hefner, I would say that's a cult. 631 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,520 I would say that's fair. 632 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:54,680 I mean, if like nowadays when you really look back at stuff like, yeah, it's fucked up. 633 00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:00,160 He had so much control all of absolutely they go anywhere without him knowing where they 634 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,360 were going. 635 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,640 They couldn't they didn't get enough money. 636 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,640 Yeah, they didn't have like financial independence. 637 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,120 Kendra was like a teenager. 638 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,500 She was like 18 or 19 when she started living there. 639 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:13,500 She's hilarious. 640 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:17,360 And my mom was the first person that got me on that Girls Next Door TV show. 641 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:18,440 She loved it. 642 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,760 And I was surprised that she was like Emily should watch this. 643 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,800 It's so cute because I was like she watches she wants me to watch the Playboy show. 644 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,400 And then I started watching it and I love them. 645 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,400 They're so sweet. 646 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,400 Yeah, I feel bad for them. 647 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,000 But they're all better off now. 648 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Yes. 649 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,120 But also, yeah, they're famous and thank God they got that out of this. 650 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:38,600 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 651 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,600 All right. 652 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,800 So we'll transition into the docu series and I can't remember if it's on I think it's 653 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,800 on Netflix. 654 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:51,800 Keep Sweet, Pray and Obey and this is about this all I don't want to say that it started 655 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,800 with but he his father Rulon Jeffs was the president of the Fundamentalist Church of 656 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,640 Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 657 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:06,080 And it was reported that at the time of Rulon's death, he was 92 years old, he had 65 wives 658 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,600 and 65 children. 659 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:13,080 But it said other sources indicated that he may have been survived by 60 wives and about 660 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,040 60 children, including 33 sons. 661 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,240 So that means that his 33 sons have to be wifed up somewhere. 662 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,640 And they all probably have at least five kids each. 663 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,640 Right. 664 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,360 I mean, I would think because I mean, yeah, it sounds like some wives. 665 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:32,680 I mean, not every wife had a kid, I'm sure. 666 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,200 So you know, multiple children within. 667 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840 I mean, I think that was that's the purpose. 668 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,520 Oh, I agree with you. 669 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,320 But who knows what the ratio is, you know, number of children to wives, whatever. 670 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:51,720 So Warren Jeffs took over as prophet of the polygamous cult within the Church of Jesus 671 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,640 Christ of Latter-day Saints. 672 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,840 Following Rulon's death, Jeff told the high ranking officials, I won't say much, but I 673 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,440 will say this hands off my father's wives. 674 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,920 When addressing his father's widows, he said, you women will live as if father is still 675 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,360 alive and in the next room within a week. 676 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:10,720 Wait, wait, whose father? 677 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,880 Father is Warren Jeffs? 678 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,580 Rulon was Warren Jeff's father. 679 00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:20,880 So when he died, Warren said hands off my dad's wives, whatever. 680 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,720 Within a week, he had married all but two of his father's wives. 681 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,720 Wait, OK. 682 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,720 So OK, hold on. 683 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,480 Let me back up on this because that was fast. 684 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,480 OK. 685 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,520 So you're saying that Rulon was the dad and Warren Jeffs was a son and then Rulon had 686 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,760 all these wives. 687 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,760 How many? 688 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Six, six, between 60 and 65. 689 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,240 And then when he died, Warren Jeffs started marrying them? 690 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,240 Yes. 691 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,280 Even though it was like his father strictly said to lay off his wife. 692 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Did he also marry his mother? 693 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,520 His mother? 694 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,520 Good question. 695 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,520 Surely not. 696 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,520 That is weird. 697 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,520 Yeah. 698 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,240 And how did the why did the women think that? 699 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,240 They have to. 700 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,240 It was OK to wait. 701 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,240 They had to marry his son. 702 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,240 They don't have an option. 703 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:08,080 That's the whole point of this is like they were like there was no more ruling. 704 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,080 They were. 705 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,160 And that's why it was called Keep Sweet, Pray and Obey. 706 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,120 So it was obey what we say. 707 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,120 Yeah. 708 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,880 Obey the men in your lives. 709 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360 And there were no I mean, they weren't making money. 710 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,360 They didn't have jobs. 711 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,640 I mean, they were, you know, homemakers, whatever. 712 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,000 And they were raising, you know, plethora of children and cohabitating, you know, with 713 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,720 three other wives within, you know, the polygamous marriage, that sort of thing, all with one 714 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,720 goal. 715 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:43,280 And the goal was to build and live and exist in this place that they called Zion. 716 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,280 OK. 717 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:50,280 And Zion was this ranch in Texas that was almost 1700 acres. 718 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,680 Well, hold up. 719 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,160 Before they got to Texas, they took over. 720 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,800 They got kicked out of the Mormon community in Utah. 721 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,720 And why? 722 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:11,920 Because there his Rulon's practices were different from the regular like Mormon LDS, I guess. 723 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,920 Right. 724 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000 Which means that they're they will get into that. 725 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,800 Why they're part of it? 726 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,800 Because Mormonism isn't all about polygamy. 727 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:29,000 And that sort of thing at that time in the area they were in in Utah, they were evolving 728 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:38,400 their lifestyles of the teachings and practices that they were following and that the father 729 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:44,280 didn't want that and wanted to stay with the polygamous style lifestyle. 730 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,640 Gotcha. 731 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,960 So they moved south into southern Utah and developed this huge community and took over 732 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,560 basically this entire town there. 733 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:01,880 And then when that's when they were kind of getting into trouble there with stuff that 734 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,280 they they were kind of getting run out once the communities that they were living in kind 735 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,180 of figured out what was going on and that sort of thing. 736 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:10,520 And they were frowning upon it. 737 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,800 And, you know, just people were starting to ask questions. 738 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,800 And I can't remember. 739 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,800 So they secretly purchased all this property in Texas that they're calling Zion. 740 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,800 Where in Texas? 741 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,800 I don't know exactly. 742 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:29,800 Was it like near like Dallas or like was it just like out in the middle of nowhere? 743 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,800 Yeah. 744 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:36,720 So they started funneling all this money and all these resources. 745 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,080 And he started leaving and traveling all the time. 746 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,120 And they figured out it was to this place in Texas. 747 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,560 He was calling Zion where they were actually building this community there. 748 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:51,280 It was supposed to be a self-sustaining community and orchard filled with trees, apple trees, 749 00:31:51,280 --> 00:32:00,600 peaches, pears and a massive temple and housing for all of the families. 750 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:10,600 So first of all, I love that these cults, they're all so original with his name of Zion for 751 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,560 his town or whatever it's going to be. 752 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,400 I'm like, okay, couldn't you come up with something that wasn't in the Bible? 753 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,400 I don't know. 754 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Yeah. 755 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,400 Like they named their kids. 756 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,400 They're all like Abraham and like John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith. 757 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:34,240 Well, in the documentary, some of the children got, I mean, they got out and, you know, there 758 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,440 were ones that left like at different times or whatever. 759 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,040 And there were people that like also were like in love, but they weren't like a marriage 760 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,200 match. 761 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,200 And so they couldn't be together and one would run away. 762 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,520 The other one was supposed to run away. 763 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:53,640 Sometimes they came back and it was just really sad to, you know, kind of know what these, 764 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,440 you know, especially women went through because they would be matched with these men at like 765 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,840 13, 14 years old. 766 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,640 And you know, as soon as they got their period, they were expected to marry and breed. 767 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,760 And it was like, I mean, it was wild. 768 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,760 So were they, okay. 769 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:14,480 So my question is, were they recruiting through, were they still recruiting through the outside 770 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,920 world or were they just like reproducing? 771 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,640 I think it was mostly reproducing within the community that was already there. 772 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,160 So like incestuous kind of. 773 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,160 Yeah. 774 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,520 And like they all, he also at some point got pissed off at some of the wives that were 775 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:40,600 being not like defiant, but like he was mad at how things were unraveling and maybe mad 776 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,520 at some of his brothers too. 777 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:51,360 And he switched up their marriages and like changed who they, the wives were married to 778 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,200 to these other old, old men. 779 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,200 Yes. 780 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,680 And his father's like close in age folks and stuff like that. 781 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,000 Wow. 782 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,000 It was nuts. 783 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:12,200 So needless to say in the docu series, the government eventually gets involved and there 784 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,200 was, I mean, there's a really crazy story. 785 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:23,200 It's something involved like him getting pulled over after leaving like a casino or some, 786 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:29,600 something like that where like he's like partaking in this crazy lifestyle outside of. 787 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,600 Oh yeah, of course. 788 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,960 He's like going out and doing that crazy stuff, but everybody else is not allowed to. 789 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,960 Yes. 790 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,960 Doing the things that nobody- 791 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,960 Taking all the other people's money. 792 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,960 Yes. 793 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,960 100%. 794 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,440 Doing things that he's not supposed to be doing and that sort of thing. 795 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,080 Well, no, he's allowed to do it. 796 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,080 Well, right. 797 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,080 But they're not. 798 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,080 Right. 799 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,080 Yeah. 800 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,760 But needless to say, the government gets involved and they had, you know, just, I mean, masses 801 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,280 of people coming in to take these children. 802 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,040 So do you think he was buying drugs or anything like that that may have been putting him on 803 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,840 the radar or like gambling a lot of money or not paying taxes? 804 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:12,240 I think maybe part of it started when they were in Texas or trying to move the community 805 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:18,200 to Texas and people in Texas were questioning what was happening. 806 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,920 Like the fishiness of. 807 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,920 Yeah. 808 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,080 The community that was being built and what was really going on. 809 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,080 Yeah. 810 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:35,200 But I don't 100% know that, but it says that he was arrested for harboring and his brother 811 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:40,640 was arrested for harboring a fugitive because at that point Jeff's was a fugitive and there 812 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:50,280 was a traffic stop that said he had 142,000 in cash and 7,000 in prepaid debit cards. 813 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,120 And so he was like kind of on the run for a few years. 814 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,080 How did he get all this cash? 815 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,080 That's crazy to me. 816 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,200 I guess he wasn't he was getting it from all the other people and he wasn't spending it. 817 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,200 Yeah. 818 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,400 Like somehow they had businesses. 819 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,400 OK. 820 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,400 OK. 821 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,400 Gotcha. 822 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,560 So did he end up going to jail? 823 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,560 Is he in jail? 824 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,560 Yes. 825 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,560 He's serving a life sentence. 826 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,960 So and he was raping children in Texas. 827 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,960 Yeah. 828 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,000 He ended up getting convicted for a bunch of stuff. 829 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,000 Yeah. 830 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,920 But it is believed that he still runs this FLDS and exercises influence on its members 831 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,200 from prison. 832 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,200 Wow. 833 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,200 OK. 834 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,200 OK. 835 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:39,280 So moving along to the next loser in this cult series, we're going to talk about next 836 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,280 year. 837 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,280 So in 19. 838 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,280 Yeah. 839 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:49,800 In 1998, Keith Renear and Nancy Saltzman, a former psychiatric nurse, founded Nextium 840 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,720 as a purported self-help organization near Albany, New York. 841 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:59,720 It was a corporation that sold human development. 842 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,720 It sold human development. 843 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,720 I know. 844 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:09,440 We're not from Albany, at least. 845 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,440 No, we're not. 846 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:17,720 And self-help materials and devolved into personality cults of its founder, Keith Renear. 847 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:26,000 So it was basically started, and this is my opinion, but I think I'm pretty right, as 848 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,760 a multi-level marketing scheme. 849 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,760 Right. 850 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,760 So it was supposed to be almost like this executive professionalism. 851 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,760 Like leadership development. 852 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,760 Yeah. 853 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:41,440 And they would bring folks in for these classes, and it sort of evolved into something. 854 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,440 Oh, and then you had to continue paying more and more to get to the levels. 855 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,800 You had to continue paying, and right, you had to continue leading workshops and these 856 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,800 classes. 857 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:58,120 It's kind of like a multi-level marketing for leadership development. 858 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,120 Right. 859 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:05,120 And they conducted these intensive classes for about 12 hours a day for 16 days straight, 860 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,600 and they once cited the price was $7,500. 861 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:15,800 And then most of the time, when you have these people start, you're not stopping. 862 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,680 For whatever reason, experience some sort of enlightenment situation, and you're like, 863 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,880 oh my God, this is working. 864 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,760 I need to stick with this. 865 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,760 Can you pause right there? 866 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,760 Because I want to say something. 867 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,040 I've always just wondered. 868 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,200 I think about this stuff, and we'll get into why cults happen and what they are and stuff 869 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,320 like that in a minute. 870 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:39,760 But how can somebody... I don't think I've ever met anybody that I would just follow 871 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,600 and blindly and just be like, okay, and do everything. 872 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,440 I kind of want to be that way, but I don't want to be a cult leader, but I want to be 873 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:54,080 somebody that's charismatic and people like to be around me, but I'm just not. 874 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,200 I don't understand how do these people get these characteristics to lead these groups 875 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,080 and to think about it? 876 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:08,960 They are obviously extremely smart and just don't have any morals and are just like, they 877 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,280 don't care about other people. 878 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,280 Yeah. 879 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:18,360 And who knows if it started out that way mentally for some of these cult leaders or whatever, 880 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:25,840 but it's just the success and the love that the followers or the class participants in 881 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,040 the beginning show, it just takes off from there and something that it wasn't ever meant 882 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,040 to be. 883 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,040 It feeds their ego. 884 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,040 Yeah, 100%. 885 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,240 And it said the classes were divided into modules, and in one module, not necessarily 886 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:44,040 number one, but in a module, it was called relationship sourcings where students were 887 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,640 instructed to explore the benefits that they would receive in the event of a partner's 888 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,640 sudden death. 889 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,640 That's weird. 890 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,400 Oh wait, they would get away a partner if they were married or in a relationship? 891 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,880 Yeah, that's weird to me. 892 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,860 As professional development training. 893 00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:01,360 So essentially they're getting- 894 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,360 Life insurance money. 895 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,360 Interesting. 896 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,360 Right. 897 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,120 They were getting trained on how to get that? 898 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,120 I mean it went from- 899 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,120 To explore the benefits. 900 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,120 Yeah. 901 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,680 It went from zero to 100 quickly, and it said- 902 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,560 I mean those are kind of things we should have talked about in our episode that dropped 903 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,880 last week, or today technically. 904 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,880 What? 905 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,880 How not to- 906 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,800 What things you need to know in your 30s, like how to collect insurance money. 907 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,800 Have life insurance. 908 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,520 Yeah, life insurance, but like yeah, that's wild. 909 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:41,280 So it evolved from that into a sex cult at some point. 910 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,920 So what was his name? 911 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:43,920 Keith Rainier. 912 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,720 Keith Rainier decided, I remember because of Ashley, or Alice in Mac, Alex Mac? 913 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:49,720 Yeah. 914 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:52,320 Which she was in what show was she in? 915 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,320 Smallville. 916 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,320 Smallville. 917 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,400 And her name was Alex Mac, wasn't she? 918 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:02,680 And so she somehow got recruited and then did you watch that documentary or whatever? 919 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,680 Yeah. 920 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,680 Or whatever it was? 921 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:10,640 And so she, one day I believe, like didn't they have, they were having a therapy session 922 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,880 and he was going to like massage her or something like that? 923 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,880 Isn't that right? 924 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,880 Oh yeah. 925 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,880 Isn't that how this happened? 926 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,880 I don't even think it was him. 927 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,880 I think that was the woman. 928 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,360 No, it was a man, or they had like somebody come in there and did like- 929 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,960 Oh, the woman's the one that gave them the tattoos or whatever. 930 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,960 Yeah. 931 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,960 Oh yeah. 932 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,680 And then they did that whole other part of the- 933 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,680 Like the women's group. 934 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,680 Yes, the women's group. 935 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,480 That was after a while though. 936 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,720 But the first time I think that she realized, like that everything started happening was 937 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:36,720 when she got- 938 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:37,720 They definitely- 939 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:42,040 It wasn't Alice in, it wasn't Alex Mac, it was the other girl that did the documentary 940 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,000 or whatever it was. 941 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:50,480 Well, there, I mean, is a lot to it, but I think it started one way and then it very 942 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,480 quickly went in like a whole different direction. 943 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:58,480 It set an estimated 18,000 people enrolled in the group's workshops, including its executive 944 00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,480 success program. 945 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,280 That's the one I was thinking of first. 946 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,840 And most participants only took a few classes, but some members became ardent followers 947 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,560 of Mr. Reynier calling him vanguard. 948 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,560 That's what it was- 949 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,120 Yeah, and regarding him as the most ethical man in the world. 950 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:19,400 And by 2017, several former members had asked New York state authorities to investigate 951 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,760 Nexium. 952 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,280 The complaints focused on a secretive group within the organization called the VAL. 953 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,280 That's what it is. 954 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,680 That's the name of the documentary. 955 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:33,400 And it says ORDOS, an acronym for the Latin phrase that roughly translate to Lord Master 956 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,680 of the Obedient Female Companions. 957 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,400 And the members were branded, which is the tattoo you're talking about, Jeri. 958 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,680 What did that tattoo look like? 959 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,680 I forgot. 960 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,680 It was letters. 961 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,640 But wasn't it like upside down his name or something? 962 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:52,360 Yes, when you turned it the other way, because I think in the documentary that she said she 963 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,200 had never like paid attention to how it really- 964 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,200 Yeah. 965 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,200 Yeah. 966 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,200 What it really was. 967 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,160 And then she figured out she was like branded with him for her life. 968 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,760 They were also assigned to have sex with him. 969 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:10,160 The celebrity affiliations, Alex Max, like you just talked about then, Kristen Kriuk, 970 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,960 or I don't know what her name, how you say her last name, but she was also in Smallville. 971 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,800 She was the brown haired actress in Smallville. 972 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:25,000 And Claire Bromfman, who's a Seagrams heiress, like Seagrams- 973 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,280 That was the girl that the blonde- 974 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,280 The ginger ale? 975 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,280 That's Seagrams? 976 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,280 Or Seagrams cocktails. 977 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,280 Yeah. 978 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,280 Oh. 979 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,280 Jeri just loved ginger ale. 980 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,280 Damn, girls. 981 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:41,560 She asked me earlier when we were at Trader Joe's, she said, do they have individual non-alcoholic 982 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,560 drinks here? 983 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,560 And I was like, yes. 984 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,560 I took her to the damn juice aisle or whatever. 985 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,560 She was like, they don't have a Coke? 986 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,560 I'm like, no. 987 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,560 No, it's Trader Joe's. 988 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,560 Sorry. 989 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,560 And she was like, I really just wish I had a ginger ale. 990 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,560 I said, well, Krampus is going to have Diet Mountain Dew, but that's about it. 991 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,560 I don't even have any Diet Mountain Dew right now. 992 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,560 I know, it's crazy. 993 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,920 Needless to say, okay, the last person was Catherine Oxenberg, who was a dynasty actress, 994 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,920 and her daughter was the one who was deeply involved in it that they were trying to rescue. 995 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,640 I can't remember the daughter's name. 996 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,280 I want to say it starts with an A, something like that. 997 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,280 But overall- 998 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,360 She was the girl that they really told her story. 999 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,360 Yes. 1000 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,360 Yeah. 1001 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,360 Because they tried to save her and they were trying to communicate with her. 1002 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:27,160 It was one of those things where when you got deep enough into it, they took your cell 1003 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,160 phone. 1004 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,200 You were not supposed to be on social media in any capacity. 1005 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,320 It was really just isolating these people. 1006 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,320 Okay. 1007 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,320 Sorry to interrupt. 1008 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,320 Go ahead. 1009 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,400 I looked up the branding. 1010 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:46,760 The way that they explained it was like that I remember, it was something about this mountain 1011 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,120 and the sun and everything. 1012 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:56,840 But then when you turned it sideways, what it is, is a giant K for Keith. 1013 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,880 Then the little part on the inside of it is then an upside down capital R, Chris last 1014 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,880 name. 1015 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,880 Yeah. 1016 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:05,880 Oh, okay. 1017 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,880 Yeah. 1018 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,880 Crazy. 1019 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,480 When you see it, when they explained it, they were like, oh, we had his initials on us. 1020 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,200 I was like, oh my God, it's so obvious now that they showed it. 1021 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,200 But before it was like- 1022 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,320 But then when they were explaining what it was to them, what they were told it was, it 1023 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,520 also looks like that. 1024 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,520 Exactly. 1025 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,520 Yes. 1026 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,520 Yeah. 1027 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,040 That's like you don't know and then you turn it and you're like, wow, that's crazy. 1028 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,040 Okay. 1029 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,520 So this kind of reminds me. 1030 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,920 So the girl that, what was her name that they're trying to find that was in the documentary 1031 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:39,920 series. 1032 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,920 Oxenberg's daughter. 1033 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,920 Yeah. 1034 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,400 So she was saying she was getting massage or something and he was trying to work out 1035 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,400 whatever. 1036 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:52,720 And it reminded me of the guy that molested all the gymnasts that would like, he'd be 1037 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,200 like, oh, I need to fix, this is going to fix your problem. 1038 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,200 Larry Nessar. 1039 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,640 And he would stick his hand in their vagina or something. 1040 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,520 And he would do it in front of their parents. 1041 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,960 Like in the same room, but like they would be facing a different way. 1042 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,640 And then the girls like don't really know like if that's wrong or not. 1043 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,640 That's what that reminded. 1044 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,640 I don't know. 1045 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,360 I swear I just saw something about how he just got fucked up in jail. 1046 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,360 Maybe. 1047 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,360 He probably will. 1048 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,360 I'm sure. 1049 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,360 Yeah. 1050 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:25,160 Those victim statements were some of the most intense moments in a courtroom I've ever seen. 1051 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,160 Oh my gosh. 1052 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,160 I know. 1053 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,160 It was wild. 1054 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,600 So let me wrap up Nexium just real quick. 1055 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,600 And y'all, there's so much more to all of these stories. 1056 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,880 Go watch the docu series. 1057 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:42,400 But Renear and five women linked to Nexium, including Nancy Saltzman, that Claire Bromfman, 1058 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,240 Seagram's lady, and then Alex Mack were charged with racketeering, conspiracy involving a 1059 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:53,480 raft of crimes, including identity theft, extortion, forced labor, sex trafficking, 1060 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,080 money laundering, wire fraud, and obstruction of justice. 1061 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,160 Wow. 1062 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,200 So they were, they definitely started off being like, let's be awesome executive professionals 1063 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:11,320 and to, um, let's steal some money and force people to have sex with us. 1064 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,120 Power went to their heads. 1065 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,120 Apparently so. 1066 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,120 Yeah. 1067 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,520 Larry Nassar just got stabbed in jail two weeks ago after a comment he made watching 1068 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,520 Wimbledon. 1069 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,120 Oh, is he dead? 1070 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,960 I don't think so. 1071 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,440 My thing is when you're in jail, 1072 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,560 these people that are in jail and they're going to stab somebody, they know where to 1073 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,040 stab you to kill you. 1074 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,820 So did they do it just to mess with him? 1075 00:47:34,820 --> 00:47:40,040 Just to be like, to put him in pain to like torture him or like, cause then if they want 1076 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,560 to kill you, they don't kill you. 1077 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,560 Oh, for sure. 1078 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,560 You're going to be dead. 1079 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,560 Yeah. 1080 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,560 Right. 1081 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,560 I mean, that's how I feel. 1082 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,960 No, I mean, I, I agree with that wholeheartedly. 1083 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,960 I mean, who knows? 1084 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,560 He was stabbed in the back and the chest. 1085 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,560 Yikes. 1086 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,560 That's crazy. 1087 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,560 I know. 1088 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,560 The big one that I want to talk about is this mommy doomsday podcast and there's a show. 1089 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,560 Have you ever seen it? 1090 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,560 I have not. 1091 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,720 So it is about, have you seen it or listened to the podcast? 1092 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:11,680 Refresh my memory because I know what you're talking about, but I can't remember whether 1093 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,680 I watched it. 1094 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:18,040 Her, I forgot her name and I'll tell you in a minute, but she, there's a lady who was 1095 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,040 like a beauty queen. 1096 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,040 She was really pretty. 1097 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:25,440 She married this guy, whatever ends up having some kids like from two different people, 1098 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:34,080 I think, and then gets involved with this guy from the Latter Day Saints, like the Mormon 1099 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:39,760 community and he is like essentially starting a cult, I guess, or he's got like a cult going 1100 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:40,760 kind of thing. 1101 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:41,760 Oh, yes. 1102 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,760 And then she killed her kids. 1103 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,760 She said there was a, yeah, Vallow. 1104 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,760 Yeah. 1105 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,480 So she kills the two kids. 1106 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:53,680 It's like JJ or JJ and I forgot the little girl's name and I feel bad not knowing their 1107 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,760 names, but this is kind of off the cuff, but yeah. 1108 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,640 But they were like talking about how people were zombies. 1109 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,640 Did you listen? 1110 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,640 Yeah. 1111 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,960 So they went on a murder spree and basically killed multiple family members. 1112 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,320 They didn't actually physically, I don't know, maybe they did, but I don't know if they physically 1113 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:17,400 killed everybody, but they facilitated the murders. 1114 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:24,240 So like maybe her brother, I think it was her brother or cousin or somebody like that 1115 00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:31,680 who was following her would do a murder, like killed her ex-husband for her, but she really 1116 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,800 kind of manipulated him into doing it. 1117 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,240 But then they also killed somebody else. 1118 00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:38,240 Yes. 1119 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:39,480 That was an adult. 1120 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,540 She was convicted in May of conspiracy to murder Tammy Daybell, the late wife of Vallow's 1121 00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:53,600 current husband, so her current husband's ex-wife and then JJ and Tylee. 1122 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:59,280 Yeah, but there were several other people that got murdered by somebody else, but they 1123 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,540 kind of facilitated it. 1124 00:50:00,540 --> 00:50:05,640 So I don't know if that's like, she'll actually get murder, but she'll probably get some type 1125 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:11,000 of, I don't know if they're going to be able to have proof or whatnot, but her ex-husband, 1126 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,000 I forgot his name. 1127 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,000 You know who I'm talking about. 1128 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,000 Chad. 1129 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,000 No, Chad's food. 1130 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,200 The guy that did it with her, killed her kids with her, buried them in the ground in Texas 1131 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,200 or wherever they were. 1132 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,200 Oh, that was her fifth husband. 1133 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,200 It was out in Idaho. 1134 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,280 I think it was in Idaho or something. 1135 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,760 Maybe it was somewhere out in the middle of nowhere, like the country, but she also has 1136 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,480 a living son that was living in California, I think, at the time. 1137 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:42,520 And he was like, I don't know what's going on, kind of separated. 1138 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:48,520 Okay, so going back to this whole cult thing, this Chad guy, he wrote a bunch of books and 1139 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,720 then he would say stuff. 1140 00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:53,760 He was using religion to get people to follow him. 1141 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,660 And then he was kind of like twisting it to say people were zombies. 1142 00:50:57,660 --> 00:51:02,080 And he was like, basically they were just telling other people, this person's a zombie, 1143 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,580 which means that they don't like them anymore, essentially. 1144 00:51:05,580 --> 00:51:10,600 And that that person, any zombie, anytime any party turns into a zombie, they can kill 1145 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,400 them and God will allow it. 1146 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,440 And it's not against the law in their minds. 1147 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,520 So they would just like kill people, just be like, oh, that person's a zombie now. 1148 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,640 And so they were like, oh, our kids are zombies. 1149 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,640 And they killed them. 1150 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,640 That's crazy. 1151 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,520 It says she faces separate charges in Arizona in connection with the death of her fourth 1152 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:34,640 husband, Charles Valo, as well as conspiring to kill her ex-nephew-in-law, Brandon Boudreaux. 1153 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,720 Okay, yeah, yeah. 1154 00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:40,360 So yeah, they killed her ex-husband. 1155 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,360 He died. 1156 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,320 So she had a mental breakdown. 1157 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,200 Well, so I don't know, because she seemed normal and happy. 1158 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,480 If you listen to the podcast, it was such a good podcast. 1159 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,920 And I think, you know, there's a TV. 1160 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,920 I don't know what it's on. 1161 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,160 It's on Netflix or whatnot. 1162 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,480 But what was the podcast called? 1163 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,480 Mommy Doomsday. 1164 00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,480 You need to know. 1165 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,440 It's so good. 1166 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,000 But she was like beauty queen. 1167 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,480 Like she was so pretty. 1168 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,640 Like everybody loved her. 1169 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,640 She did all these things. 1170 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,900 She was a great mom. 1171 00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:09,360 All these things had a great. 1172 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,360 She found a great husband. 1173 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:15,200 And all of a sudden she gets hooked up with this Chad Daybell guy and like she's not even 1174 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,560 divorced from her husband. 1175 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,760 And then they like moved to Hawaii or somewhere like that. 1176 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:28,000 Yeah, they like escaped to Hawaii and basically like her kids were missing. 1177 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,800 Yeah, they just were like. 1178 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,480 They're like the people, the press were down there and they were like, where are your kids? 1179 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,480 And they were just like, what? 1180 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,480 What are you talking about? 1181 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,220 They're out there with their aunt or some, you know, some lie. 1182 00:52:39,220 --> 00:52:41,600 And they would try to find the people that they say that they were with. 1183 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,720 And they were like, they aren't here. 1184 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:47,960 The grandparents were like the ones that really kind of dug into it and got the police involved. 1185 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,200 And it's such a sad story. 1186 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,840 But these grandparents wanted so bad to like, and I believe the youngest little boy, I think 1187 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,840 he might've had autism. 1188 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,840 JJ had autism. 1189 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,840 Yeah. 1190 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,360 And JJ was actually her nephew's son. 1191 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,360 Right. 1192 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,360 Yes. 1193 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,360 They adopted him. 1194 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,480 And she and her ex-husband adopted him. 1195 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,480 And then they got divorced after that because she started being crazy. 1196 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,480 Yeah. 1197 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,480 OK. 1198 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,320 So all this being said, all these like, we've got all this cult stuff. 1199 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,800 And I just want to know, like, what do you guys think? 1200 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:18,800 Like what is a cult? 1201 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,560 We're going to talk about that. 1202 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,400 What do y'all think a cult is? 1203 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,440 If I were to ask you and you didn't have like Google or whatnot, what would you, what would 1204 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,440 your definition of a cult be? 1205 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:40,480 I would say that it is an organization that even though you participate in, you in a way 1206 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:46,240 have no choice, I guess, because maybe you don't have the financial resources, you don't 1207 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:55,360 have the mental stability to get out, or you just have no other family, no other, you know, 1208 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,360 familial resources. 1209 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,360 OK. 1210 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,360 And you have... 1211 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,320 How do you get into it? 1212 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:09,280 I mean, I think oftentimes it starts innocently and then you are mentally broken down, you 1213 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:18,880 know, financially either cut off or, you know, reliant on this group of people or person. 1214 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,080 And it's all you have left. 1215 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,080 Yeah. 1216 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,040 Jerry, what do you think it is? 1217 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,320 Yeah, I agree with most of that. 1218 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:34,000 I think like people get sucked into this of wanting to be like a part of something and 1219 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,080 feel like they belong somewhere. 1220 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,600 Like maybe they're at this low point in life where they've gone through some things and 1221 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:48,280 they are feeling maybe like lonely, you know, and that they don't have like this group to 1222 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,000 like fit in with. 1223 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,000 Yeah. 1224 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:58,880 And then somehow they find this like organization, they get pulled in and they feel like they've 1225 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:08,800 found like this group of people that understand them in a way or like make them feel welcome. 1226 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,920 Yeah, welcome. 1227 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,480 Yeah. 1228 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:19,540 And then they they pour all their life into it, you know, and then they get cut off from 1229 00:55:19,540 --> 00:55:25,560 all their family, all their friends, and they start putting their resources into it. 1230 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,720 And maybe they don't even really have a lot of resources outside of it. 1231 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:30,160 So it's like their lifeline. 1232 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,160 Yeah. 1233 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,480 And they have nowhere to go. 1234 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,480 Yeah. 1235 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,480 They just get sucked in. 1236 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,480 I mean, not all Colts have like a murderous undertone, you know, like, but a lot of them 1237 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,480 do. 1238 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:48,000 The whole point of it is control in that the idea is really that they want to control and 1239 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,000 take over. 1240 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,000 Yes. 1241 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:56,160 And have all of their ideology in a very manipulative way have their ideologies like pushed on to 1242 00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:05,960 everybody else and that they are like the majority of what the world would be, basically. 1243 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:06,960 Right. 1244 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:12,920 So when I did a little bit of research, not a lot, like to figure out like what the Internet 1245 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,280 of the world says. 1246 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,080 Okay, so a cult is a system of religious veneration. 1247 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,080 I don't know if that's how you say that. 1248 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,880 V E N E R A T I O N, which I Googled that too, because I was on what that means. 1249 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,880 I'm not that smart. 1250 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,640 I look, I'm, I don't know the words of the world. 1251 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,640 Okay. 1252 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,640 I know what like, like fifth grade reading. 1253 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,280 You're not going to win a spelling bee. 1254 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,960 No, I might win the spelling bee. 1255 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:38,960 I'm good at that. 1256 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,480 If you told me to spell veneration, I would be able to spell it. 1257 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,040 Because I can't tell you what the definition is. 1258 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,880 If I was like, please give me that in a sentence, I'd be like, I have no idea what that means. 1259 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:50,880 Okay. 1260 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,600 But the veneration or vener, I'm assuming that's what it is. 1261 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,320 The act of honoring a saint is essentially what that is. 1262 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:04,920 So a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object. 1263 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:10,360 And it is a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded 1264 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,080 by others as strange or sinister. 1265 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,080 Okay. 1266 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:18,200 So what is the difference between an occult and a religion or a church? 1267 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,200 Are you asking? 1268 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,200 No. 1269 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:24,160 Well, I'm asking, but I'm going to tell you some thoughts, but I want to know like what 1270 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,880 you think it is. 1271 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,160 Like do you like, okay, so I'll just start talking and you guys chime in whenever you 1272 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:35,280 feel one has become a legal way to funnel money without that. 1273 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,280 Yes. 1274 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,280 Agreed. 1275 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:45,400 Not only that, I think when it comes down to following specific like rules, processes 1276 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:52,640 or ideologies, I mean, every religion is a cult. 1277 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,640 Essentially. 1278 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,640 Yeah. 1279 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:55,640 Well, sort of. 1280 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,640 Okay. 1281 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,640 So yes and no. 1282 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,920 And so I actually found this, what's the guy's name? 1283 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,240 Oh my God. 1284 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,680 What's the guy that has the podcast? 1285 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,680 Joe Rogan. 1286 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,960 I found a Joe Rogan thing about cults today. 1287 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:05,960 Cause I was like, oh my gosh. 1288 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,960 He's one to talk. 1289 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,880 And so I started listening to it and it actually, it was actually very interesting and I didn't 1290 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,800 get to finish it, but like y'all should look it up. 1291 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,520 I think it's something similar to this. 1292 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,600 Like what's the difference between a cult and a religion? 1293 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,600 Jerry's like, I ain't fucking with Joe Rogan. 1294 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:25,320 No, ask him how his COVID treatment went with his horse tranquilizer. 1295 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,480 Oh what? 1296 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,480 I don't ever listen to him. 1297 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,080 Everybody's like, you should listen to Joe Rogan. 1298 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,080 I'm like, I don't know. 1299 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,080 I don't listen to him. 1300 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,040 But like, I did find that and I thought it was interesting because the guy that was on 1301 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:40,240 there was he basically said, he was like every cult's a religion, Catholicism is religion. 1302 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,680 All these things are, I mean, hold on, back up. 1303 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,000 Everything's every religion is a cult. 1304 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,000 Yeah. 1305 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,480 And the guy was like, well, I disagree with that. 1306 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,960 And so, and I thought it was very interesting. 1307 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,400 They're a little conversation. 1308 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,400 So anyways, okay. 1309 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,240 So a cult uses the followers beliefs to extract things from them. 1310 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,240 Okay. 1311 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,240 Yeah. 1312 00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,580 And a cult is a social movement. 1313 00:58:59,580 --> 00:59:03,720 It's not like it's essentially it boils down to time. 1314 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,720 Okay. 1315 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,240 So it's like they want to create a new religion in the United States and appeal to the government 1316 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,120 for new religion status and get protections and recognition from the U.S. government. 1317 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:16,240 So technically anyone can have like their cult and call it a religion. 1318 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:22,960 So like Scientology or whatnot, like Mormonism, people used to think was a cult, things like 1319 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,960 that. 1320 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:24,960 Okay. 1321 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,520 So both religion and religions or churches or whatever and cults, they have things in 1322 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,520 common. 1323 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,640 So they a charismatic leader. 1324 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,760 These people often follow a leader who claims divine or special access to different models 1325 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,000 of knowledge and revelations. 1326 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,080 Many are martyred. 1327 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,200 Many of these people are martyred. 1328 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,480 Like so the guy from the book, not the book of Mormon, not the book of Mormon. 1329 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:49,480 I forgot his name. 1330 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:55,900 The guy from the Mormon religion who like started it, he was, he was lynched, I think. 1331 00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:57,800 And then what was the other guy? 1332 00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,800 I'm trying to think of it. 1333 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,280 The Brigham Young took over after the other guy. 1334 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,280 Like John Smith. 1335 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,280 It was like Joseph Smith. 1336 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,280 It was Joseph Smith. 1337 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,120 It was like, yeah. 1338 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:14,440 So many are martyred and a lot of times they have these religions and cults have in common 1339 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:15,700 end days. 1340 01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:20,120 So both of them are like, oh, we're going to go to a better place and there's going 1341 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,800 to the end of the world's coming. 1342 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:22,800 Jesus is going to come back. 1343 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,920 There's going to be a second coming or whatnot. 1344 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:34,600 So they like all the, a lot of the research I did said that like time is what differentiates 1345 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:40,000 a cult from a religion because it takes time for a cult, for a movement, for like one of 1346 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:45,480 these social movements to establish itself as a legit part of a religious landscape. 1347 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,480 That makes sense. 1348 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,560 And this is from, because they don't normally last for a long. 1349 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:49,560 Yeah. 1350 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,560 I'm reading this stuff from like Penn today. 1351 01:00:50,560 --> 01:01:01,480 Cause that could also like feed into the, um, urgency of its ramp up, you know, of people 1352 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,000 wanting to participate because they feel like there's this impending. 1353 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,400 Well, and I've always thought about this and I, and I hate to say this, but like, cause 1354 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,000 I know that Christianity is like a big deal and like, you know, I grew up as a Catholic 1355 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,160 in Catholic church and things like that. 1356 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:18,280 And I've gone to other churches. 1357 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,240 I've actually been to Mormon churches with friends that were Mormon when I was younger. 1358 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,920 My parents were very good about letting me go like experience other things. 1359 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:32,780 Well, Jesus, in my opinion is kind of a cult leader. 1360 01:01:32,780 --> 01:01:34,200 Like he was martyred. 1361 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,760 I did not know that was coming. 1362 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:36,760 I know. 1363 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,980 But like, if you think about it, but I don't necessarily like, so, but okay. 1364 01:01:40,980 --> 01:01:46,200 So if you dig into it, most of these cult leaders are doing something like, I won't, 1365 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,440 I'll say evil, I guess. 1366 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,360 They're doing something that's like against the law or like not good. 1367 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,400 So like things that people think are devious. 1368 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,200 So they're having sex with children. 1369 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,200 Yeah. 1370 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,200 And from what we know, Jesus wasn't doing any of that stuff. 1371 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,400 So that's, that's a differentiator, right? 1372 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,400 Oh, for sure. 1373 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,400 So thank God. 1374 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,400 What about that Virgin Mary? 1375 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:09,720 I mean, you know, but what she's saying, you better say it again. 1376 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:10,720 Say it again. 1377 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,880 I said, what about that Virgin Mary though? 1378 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,280 Well, you're this truth. 1379 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:23,840 And she, look, I'm not going to question mark. 1380 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:30,120 Still, I'm not going to say anything about that because I might go to H E L double hockey 1381 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,120 sticks. 1382 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,800 That's if you believe there is one. 1383 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:34,800 Okay. 1384 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,800 Well, that's true. 1385 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,800 Okay. 1386 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:44,240 So a cult is a term used to demonize a movement that is controversial and it's, or it's a 1387 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,400 threat to main mainstream society. 1388 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,400 Okay. 1389 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,440 And I know Sarah is like, she, we were, I won't even be like ready to be done. 1390 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,880 And she is like already corked up the wine. 1391 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,280 She's drinker drink and she's got her vape in her hand, ready to walk out of the door. 1392 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,280 You do this every time. 1393 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,280 Okay. 1394 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,200 Well, you don't look comfortable to me. 1395 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,040 You look like you're about to walk out. 1396 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,160 So gotta go. 1397 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,160 So cults. 1398 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,160 Okay. 1399 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,040 So first of all, do y'all think based on the, okay, so hold on. 1400 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,400 Cults will rush you into joining. 1401 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,400 Right. 1402 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,560 They dismiss any questions that people have about like their inner works or whatever. 1403 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:23,000 And they may put you, tell you like, Hey, go look at these documents and go do these, 1404 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,360 um, review these videos. 1405 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,360 Yeah. 1406 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,360 These videos. 1407 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,480 And then when you get done with those videos, you're more confused and you forgot what your 1408 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,640 questions were and you're like, and it told you not to ask any questions. 1409 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,640 Shiny ball syndrome. 1410 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:34,640 Yeah. 1411 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,640 It's like indoctrinated. 1412 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,520 Look at this while we're doing this. 1413 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,520 Yes. 1414 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,800 Like for babies, like they squeak squeak, like a mobile on your crib. 1415 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,320 The cult leader is a higher power. 1416 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,760 The legit religion will have you worshiping a higher source. 1417 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,760 Yeah. 1418 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,760 Like a prophet. 1419 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,760 Yeah. 1420 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:52,760 It's a red flag. 1421 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,760 If the leader claims to be the only person who can speak for a particular God or holy 1422 01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,200 being apparently, that's what every cult leader does. 1423 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,200 Exactly. 1424 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:02,200 So that's a red flag. 1425 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:09,440 But like, I just, I can't wrap my head around me just meeting somebody and get, be getting 1426 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:15,120 brought into this like, I don't know, group and just this one person being introduced 1427 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:20,840 as like the quote unquote leader and just being like, Oh hell yeah. 1428 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,680 Everything they say is like amazing. 1429 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:29,360 I'm just following the word of this one person that claims to be this prophet or whatever. 1430 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,400 It's like, how, why did you get to make that decision? 1431 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,400 Exactly. 1432 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,320 Well, I don't think that that's, I totally understand what you're saying, but I think 1433 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:45,440 that that's like the whole point is that you're preying on people or what you're offering 1434 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,920 is this grandiose thing, whatever. 1435 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,800 How in the world do you think that NXIVM got all these people to join? 1436 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,720 They were advertising executive professionalism. 1437 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:57,720 Yeah. 1438 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:05,440 And then you have this following and then it turns into something completely different. 1439 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:06,880 Yeah. 1440 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,120 So cult control rather than guide. 1441 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,120 Okay. 1442 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,120 They have people watching to make sure that you're doing what you're supposed to do. 1443 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,320 And a lot of times they'll have like in these things that they've had, they'll say that 1444 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:22,600 like say you're a new member and I've been there for a little bit. 1445 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,480 You're new and they're going to put me over there to watch you to make sure you don't 1446 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:26,480 disappear. 1447 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:33,280 Do what not to watch me probably befriend me and get a feel of what my thoughts, feelings 1448 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,040 are and talk to you, get you to tell me things. 1449 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,040 Yeah. 1450 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:41,640 Make me feel comfortable and peel me like an onion and try and figure me out. 1451 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:42,640 Yeah. 1452 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,440 So that they can find something bad about you so that they can use it against you. 1453 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,440 Exactly. 1454 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,440 Am I going to be an asset? 1455 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,440 So that you can't get out. 1456 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:49,440 Or am I going to be an enemy? 1457 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,120 And if I'm an enemy, what is my deepest, darkest secret that you can hold against me to make 1458 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,120 me shut up? 1459 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:58,720 Well, my thing is like if you're an enemy, why don't you just get them out ASAP? 1460 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,800 If you're not going to be against it, why do you want to keep them? 1461 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:06,000 I'm sure that they do that with some folks and maybe the ones that they just find resourceful 1462 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:13,240 in some aspect, whether it be connections or finances, whatever, maybe keep those people 1463 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,600 around first or reason. 1464 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,600 True. 1465 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:17,600 Yeah. 1466 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,520 So essentially they're micromanaging your life. 1467 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,520 Yeah. 1468 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:21,520 Right? 1469 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,560 So basically what you're telling me is that you're in a cult. 1470 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,560 Because I'm at my job. 1471 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:25,560 Oh my God. 1472 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,560 I was thinking about this earlier today. 1473 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:28,560 Okay. 1474 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,880 So this is another thing that I have, but let me say this last thing and then I'll tell 1475 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,840 you my other thoughts about that. 1476 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,560 They make it extremely hard to trust fellow followers. 1477 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:38,560 That's another thing. 1478 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,640 So they try to make it to where you can't confide. 1479 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:41,640 It's a one to one. 1480 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:42,640 Yes. 1481 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,680 You can't say anything to anybody because you don't want to be like, Hey, did he do 1482 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,720 this to you? 1483 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,880 And then be like, yeah, he did that to me. 1484 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,600 And then everybody gangs up on you and you have a group to get out. 1485 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:59,920 So make you feel only comfortable enough with them and no one else. 1486 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:00,920 Essentially our jobs- 1487 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,920 Leaving no lifelines. 1488 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,920 Yeah. 1489 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:07,320 Essentially, like our jobs, maybe our jobs aren't cults, but like kind of, if you think 1490 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:12,800 about all this stuff, our people who follow bands, sports, all these things that like 1491 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:18,400 everybody's got like, like fish, everybody has like, they go follow these people around. 1492 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:19,400 It's like Jesus essentially. 1493 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:20,400 You meant go fish. 1494 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,400 Like all these people that are going fishing. 1495 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:30,040 No, these people that go follow fish, like the band or like follow Dave Matthews or like 1496 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,520 follow Grateful Dead. 1497 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,880 Hello listeners, I know who the band Taylor Swift. 1498 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,600 She's like the Swifties. 1499 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:41,760 Anybody that's watching our podcast entire life, she leaves out panic just to piss me 1500 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,760 off. 1501 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,400 Hey, guess who we're going to see this weekend. 1502 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,400 That's exciting. 1503 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,560 I don't leave them out to piss you off. 1504 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:51,560 Why would I do that? 1505 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:52,560 Just not top of mind. 1506 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,560 Just like I would not ever name fish in that list. 1507 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:56,560 Cause they're not. 1508 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,200 Well, only reason I named fish is cause we were talking about it earlier and I was looking 1509 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,200 at the poster. 1510 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,800 So we're in a t-shirt. 1511 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:10,840 So the podcast though, like also people follow podcasts and like Joe Rogan, for instance. 1512 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,800 I know you have the caller daddy. 1513 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:17,640 Shout out Alex Cooper, father Cooper. 1514 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:23,160 But yeah, like are those like if we're like people are Alabama fans, that's a call. 1515 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:30,160 Like Saban, AKA Nick Satan is, I know he's not Satan, but like, and I think these are 1516 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:34,200 nice to you, but like I call him that cause it's just funny, but that's a cult, right? 1517 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,360 But he's also not the only coach that Alabama's ever had. 1518 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,320 Like they have still been a cult way before he ever went along. 1519 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,240 I mean, talk about the machine. 1520 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:45,720 Like that's a cult. 1521 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:46,720 A hundred percent. 1522 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:47,720 Well, yeah, yeah. 1523 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:48,720 Well, we won't go there. 1524 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,440 I guess I'm a little scared about that. 1525 01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:54,400 Why they got a machine at UAB? 1526 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,400 Everywhere. 1527 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:56,400 Yeah. 1528 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,200 I think they got one everywhere. 1529 01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,200 Interesting. 1530 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,200 Yeah. 1531 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:05,320 But like, don't you think that basically our world is kind of made of, yes. 1532 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,320 Yeah, I think that's fair. 1533 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:07,320 If you think about it. 1534 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,400 It's just like the severity of the level that your cult. 1535 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,400 Oh, for sure. 1536 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,600 I mean, even monopolies in with like Alabama power. 1537 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,280 I mean, it's the only one we got. 1538 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,280 We don't have a choice. 1539 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,880 A monopoly and a cult are a little different. 1540 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,480 I know that they're not the same. 1541 01:09:22,480 --> 01:09:23,480 I'm just saying. 1542 01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:29,120 Well, but so, OK, so for instance, if we didn't have rules and laws and stuff and we grew 1543 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:33,720 up and we didn't weren't told, hey, nobody should rape you. 1544 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,640 Nobody should do these things to you. 1545 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,440 Nobody should touch you before you're, you know, 18 years old. 1546 01:09:38,440 --> 01:09:39,680 Or we probably did. 1547 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,200 But you know, that was with consent. 1548 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,200 With consent. 1549 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,200 No, unconsent. 1550 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,200 Yeah, that kind of stuff. 1551 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,560 Non-consensual. 1552 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:53,280 If we didn't have people telling us that these things were not allowed, then we wouldn't 1553 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:54,840 know what is allowed. 1554 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,480 And somebody else could be like, oh, it's OK to do this. 1555 01:09:58,480 --> 01:09:59,480 Yeah. 1556 01:09:59,480 --> 01:10:05,280 And so this essentially somebody one day decided that we're going to come to America and make 1557 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,720 this place a religious freedom place. 1558 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,940 But we have rules in place to make sure that other things don't happen. 1559 01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:16,560 It's just in other countries, technically, they don't do the same thing. 1560 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,520 And we could call those places. 1561 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:19,520 They could be cults. 1562 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,800 Really, our lives are just a bunch of mini cults. 1563 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,520 Our group friends friend group is a freaking cult. 1564 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,520 It is. 1565 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,720 I mean, I don't know who the leader is. 1566 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,320 We don't really have a leader and nobody's getting any money. 1567 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,320 But sorry. 1568 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,320 Drink. 1569 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,320 Yeah. 1570 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,320 But yeah, I don't know. 1571 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,360 I think it's interesting. 1572 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:45,720 But I also think Jesus is the biggest cult and he started all the rest of the cults. 1573 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,600 And that's a really controversial subject. 1574 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,600 But it is. 1575 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:51,840 And I'm not digging in. 1576 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,840 Christianity started. 1577 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,960 All these other cults have spun off of Christianity. 1578 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,800 Well, Christianity wasn't the first religion. 1579 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,600 Well, of course, but. 1580 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:03,600 But I concur. 1581 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:04,600 Yeah. 1582 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,680 I mean, they're all the same. 1583 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:13,440 It's just like that one evolves to be the largest and has the most supporters that blindly 1584 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:17,240 support anything that's written in this book that they read. 1585 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:23,720 I just want to understand, like, where these people like from the Mommy's Doomsday thing 1586 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,200 got the zombie part. 1587 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:30,000 Like who comes up with that and like who follows that? 1588 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,520 If somebody was like, they're a zombie. 1589 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,720 I'm like, have you been watching too much Walking Dead? 1590 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,600 Because I love that show, but I'm not going to like think it's real life. 1591 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:42,200 But you know, it doesn't just start with that conversation. 1592 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:47,640 It's like, like, it's got to start somewhere, but it sure as shit ain't that. 1593 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,920 But if if you were to come to me as we haven't known each other for a million years, but 1594 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,360 like if you were we've known each other longer than a lot of these cult leaders have known 1595 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,880 the people that they recruit. 1596 01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:58,880 Yeah. 1597 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,640 And you were to come to me and be like, Emily, these are the things that I think. 1598 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,280 And I think that zombies, people turn to zombies. 1599 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,460 I'd be like, are you kidding me? 1600 01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:13,720 And I'd probably call your parents and be like, she needs help. 1601 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:14,720 I don't know. 1602 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,720 I'd probably text somebody. 1603 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,720 I'd probably be like, Brandon, help. 1604 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,720 Somebody like who's been talking to you? 1605 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,520 What is going on? 1606 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:25,520 You know what I mean? 1607 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:31,080 I would honestly think it was just like this long satirical like act you're putting on 1608 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:35,200 for the day for some reason. 1609 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,200 Well I don't think I'm a very global person. 1610 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:46,600 And I don't think that I have a creative enough mind to come up with some of the I disagree 1611 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,200 to become up with your uncle. 1612 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,200 I disagree. 1613 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,800 I always think she's not creative and doesn't have any special talents. 1614 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:52,800 And I freaking disagree. 1615 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,800 I don't have special talents. 1616 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:55,800 Whatever. 1617 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,280 What's my special talent, Jerry? 1618 01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,840 I said it was you did. 1619 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:05,160 Well, of course, my own sister hasn't listened to this last week's episode or two weeks ago. 1620 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,720 My special talent is talking. 1621 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:09,720 So we had. 1622 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:10,720 Yeah. 1623 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,520 So I don't know where I asked her if she had any hidden talents. 1624 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,520 And mine is that I can blow bubbles. 1625 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,040 Oh, a hidden talent. 1626 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,040 Yeah. 1627 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,160 I know what yours are or were at least. 1628 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:26,520 What used to be able to hold a pin between your shoulder blades and put your feet behind 1629 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:27,520 your head. 1630 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,640 I don't know if I can still do that. 1631 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,240 That's that's that's a skill. 1632 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,200 You got some crazy ass scapula's. 1633 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:40,440 Is like something that is like this repeatable thing that you can put on like a show with 1634 01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:41,440 me. 1635 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:42,440 Wow. 1636 01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:47,440 You can legit blow bubbles. 1637 01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:48,440 Wow. 1638 01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:56,800 Last time I tried to do it, my spit wasn't thick enough. 1639 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,240 I've been doing that since I was a kid. 1640 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:00,240 She's trying. 1641 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,560 I don't think I have it like an actual talent. 1642 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,840 I don't. 1643 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:06,840 Can you sing? 1644 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:07,840 God, no. 1645 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:08,840 Hell no. 1646 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:09,840 She can't even keep up with the words. 1647 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,120 She sounded good earlier when she was saying John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith. 1648 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:14,120 John Jacob Dinger. 1649 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:21,120 I cannot sing like like no, that's bad. 1650 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,120 That's. 1651 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,120 You probably can. 1652 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,120 I think that everyone can sing. 1653 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,120 They just don't know. 1654 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,120 No, I think the right thing to do is sing the right thing. 1655 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:32,360 No, no, no, no. 1656 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:42,360 My former partner in life was a musician and could sing, had all the musical talents, could 1657 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,640 play multiple instruments. 1658 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:51,600 And one day told me while we were singing in the car that I was tone deaf. 1659 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:52,600 He was jealous. 1660 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:57,360 I don't think that's right. 1661 01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,360 I mean, I love her. 1662 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:03,680 She's my sister, but it's her and Brandon are the exact same person singing in the car. 1663 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:09,000 They cannot sing on key or at the right time. 1664 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,000 Are you trying to sing? 1665 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,000 Are you trying? 1666 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,000 Are you just like doing it goofy? 1667 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,000 Because that's how I feel. 1668 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,000 I'm not on. 1669 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,000 I can't do it. 1670 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:22,400 I know I can not sing, so it's not like I'm in the car really trying to put on a 1671 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,400 performance. 1672 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:24,400 Oh, I'm having a damn concert. 1673 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,800 But I'm like, we're going to practice on the way home. 1674 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:27,800 I'm singing along. 1675 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:34,200 I'm having a good time singing the song, but I'm not like putting on a concert. 1676 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,760 Well, that's how I feel too. 1677 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:40,760 So like if somebody was like, if I was in the car singing, I'm not singing like if I 1678 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:45,600 were going to have to like have be like a Beyonce, but like also I'm not going to do 1679 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,680 that because I know it probably doesn't sound that good. 1680 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,280 And I'm a little scared. 1681 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,320 Like, you know what I mean? 1682 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,160 So but I think you have talents. 1683 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,040 I just don't know if you know what they are. 1684 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,040 And I don't know. 1685 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,640 Maybe like, I don't know. 1686 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:00,640 You have talents. 1687 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,360 Your talent is like planning trips. 1688 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,960 Is that a talent? 1689 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:06,960 No. 1690 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:07,960 All right. 1691 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:08,960 We'll wrap it up. 1692 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:09,960 Okay. 1693 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:10,960 Catch us on Instagram, Sarah. 1694 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,960 Tell us where to catch us. 1695 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,920 I mean, first we're going to thank Jerry for joining us. 1696 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:17,920 Thank you. 1697 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,360 I know you were nervous, but you did a great job. 1698 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:20,360 You did so good. 1699 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:21,360 You're just like your mom. 1700 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:22,360 You look just like her. 1701 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,720 So does Sarah, but you look really a lot like her. 1702 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:25,880 You think and you talk. 1703 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,040 I feel like you talk like her. 1704 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,960 I get told I look like my dad a lot. 1705 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,880 Oh, I've never met your dad. 1706 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:33,880 So I don't know. 1707 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,720 She has Charles Snows. 1708 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:36,720 Yes. 1709 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,680 And his, um, face. 1710 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:39,680 Yeah. 1711 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:47,360 I feel like when I looked at you earlier tonight, I was like, you look just like your mom, but 1712 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:51,280 maybe, but if you put all three of us together, I take the cake. 1713 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,280 Yeah. 1714 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:56,160 Even I use one of the old filters on tick tock the other day and I was like, oh shit, this 1715 01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,160 is done. 1716 01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,160 Oh, you did. 1717 01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,160 Yeah. 1718 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,160 Yeah. 1719 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,160 Okay. 1720 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,160 Anyways here, that was our call episode. 1721 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:03,160 We hope you liked it. 1722 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,160 It was kind of chaotic, but whatever. 1723 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,160 It's how we roll. 1724 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:06,160 Thanks Jerry for being here. 1725 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:07,160 You can find us on Instagram at thick AF podcast, send us an email at thickafpodcast at gmail.com. 1726 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,160 See you next week. 1727 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,160 Bye. 1728 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,160 Bye. 1729 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:35,440 jackie............ 1730 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,160 ABCDEFG, I have to go. 1731 01:17:43,160 --> 01:18:06,160 I don't know why it's so good.