Hello, my name is Emily Crampsey and I'm with my friend.
Hey, this is Sarah.
And you are listening to Thicc AF.
Hey y'all.
How's it going?
We're just hanging out on a Wednesday night.
Happy hump day.
What's been going on with you, Sarah Boo?
I should have called you Sarah Sue.
You could call me Sarah Sue, but I also thought that my pen name was Froggy Fresh.
So I'm a little upset now.
You're Froggy Fresh.
Oh yeah.
I forgot.
I remember listening to that last night actually.
That's funny.
I had a great weekend this past weekend.
I know I missed all of our friends, but went to Atlanta for Brandon and our friend Jessica
and her husband Dale and the boys quote unquote ran a 5k.
Did they do it?
They didn't run.
They walked.
But did they even, did they finish?
I was hoping you were going to say they ran a mile and then they were like, let's go get
beers.
They walked the whole thing, but they did the night before go buy some beers to have
like for after the race or whatever.
But I mean they got up at five o'clock in the morning and went to the race.
But if I had known that they were going to walk it, I would have done it because I don't
run.
I would not have done it.
I would.
I think it'd be fun.
And do you know what would probably would have happened if they were going to walk it
and y'all, if y'all had come because they thought they were going to, you thought they
were going to walk it, they would have run it.
Probably.
Yeah.
Oh, and then y'all would have been like, why did we even come to this and pay the money?
Yeah.
No.
We were in a track club and so like the third base was the finish line for the race in Truist
Park.
So I mean, it was a cool, cool little thing and they got free tickets to baseball games.
So me and Jessica, you know, got our tickets or whatever and we just had a really good
time.
We went to have dinner Friday night and then went to a brewery and then they did the race
and then Brandon and I ended up getting a hotel.
And so after we had brunch on Saturday, we went to, we all went to the hotel and changed
before we went to the park for the game.
But it was fun.
The Braves won and it was a cool experience.
So it was, it was a really good time, but, and y'all had a fun weekend too.
We did.
Um, I don't know what I did on Friday.
I don't either.
I have no idea.
I honestly have no idea.
And then Saturday we went to the lake and rode on a boat all day and it was really fun
and really nice.
I got my Rose and DJ got a new pontoon and it's really awesome.
And I'm very lucky to have friends that own a boat because I would not be able to do that.
First of all, I, that's just too much work for me.
Um, I have my boating license, but I don't want to own a boat.
I do too, but yeah, the work I'm talking about, like the work to maintain it and stuff like
that.
And I don't have a husband to do it for me.
Yeah.
Um, well, I also heard that some funny things happened while y'all were there.
They did.
And I was literally just thinking about that.
Some very, very, very funny things happened, but, and I think they're hilarious and I don't
think that they're embarrassing, but I think that the person that they happen to, well,
I'm going to go ahead and say what it is because he told me to my face and it may not be what
you're thinking about, but I'm just going to say it.
Mason fell off the boat twice.
Yes.
But he was, he's like super embarrassed about it.
Oh, he came and told me all about it at the dog park.
Well, I'm sure he was probably like, Oh my God, you're going to find out anyway.
So I might as well tell you he was so embarrassed.
He like the next, I kept like saying all this stuff because me and Santana the second time,
he didn't fall off the boat the second time he fell off the dock, but to in his, in his
defense, the dock, when you walk on the, it was like real skinny first of all.
And then we're taking all this, all of our like 4,000 bags because we're there for one
day.
Like we're taking them off the dock and we're trying to do all that stuff and they didn't
tie up the boat.
So we're standing, I guess Mason was standing there holding it and the, the doc is like
what will it go on back and forth?
Like so far, like you walk and it's like, boom, you can easily fall off the side.
So he fell off and he goes like in between and I had walked, I think I was starting to
take stuff towards the truck and I didn't even see it happen, but I looked over and
I saw the boat floating away from the dock and Mason in there, but I couldn't see actual
Mason.
I saw his hat and like something else, maybe his hands and I walked over there and they're
trying to get him out and they're like, and I looked down and I swear to God, I thought
he had hit his head on either the dock or the boat and he was unconscious.
And so I was like, get him out.
I'm like, get him out.
He's not, he's unconscious and he's going to drown.
And I'm like, I'm like, and then, and then something happens and he does not coming up
and we're all screaming at him.
And Santana is like, all of a sudden, like Mason, Mason, like she thought he was dead.
Like we thought, I honestly thought he was like, your head drowned.
That is not how he framed it.
It was very scary.
He framed it like it was some giggles.
Well, then after it was giggles because like two seconds after me and Santana are like
freaking out because we think Mason's drowning like, or he's dead.
We he pops up like a freaking swamp monster and he's like, right in front of our faces
and he puts his hands and it wasn't because he was trying to be funny.
It was like legit, he was trying to get his phone and his keys and all this stuff and
put it on the dock.
And so we grabbed all that stuff and then he couldn't find his phone.
And we're like, of course me and Santana are like, just get everybody off the docks and
nobody else falls in.
Then at all at the same time as happening, they're trying to go jump.
Mason's like, where's my phone?
We have to find my phone.
Where's my phone?
It's in the water at the bottom of the lake.
Okay.
But first of all, but by the way, the leg is only like three feet deep.
He could have stood up.
Okay.
We thought he was drowning and he could have, he's like eight feet tall.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I know.
He's taller than Brandon is.
I know.
So, and so we're there and all of a sudden I'm like looking over and Rose is like, um,
guys, um, um, hey guys.
And she's does, she doesn't know how to drive the boat.
The boat's off and she's floating away towards this other boat and she's about to freaking
run into it.
And she's like, guys, I think I need some help.
And Mason's like, no, that's not important.
Find my phone.
I don't think Mason knew what was happening behind him.
He was just like, he's like, we have to find my phone.
I have, it's like, oh my God, Aaron finally, Aaron found it.
Okay.
And so on the way back, cause I like probably like 10, we're trying to get all the stuff
while we're doing it for five to 10 minutes after it happened, we're kind of like getting
over it and trying to think through it.
Like what happened?
And I was like, this, that was hilarious.
Like we both were like thought Mason was dead and he comes out like a small, I was like,
if you, I like replayed it in my head.
I'm like, we were, that was hilarious.
And so I started laughing at it and I think Mason thought we were like making fun of him
or something and we were not, I was just laughing.
I was laughing at us because we were like, oh my God.
And um, but then on the way home, home, on the way home, I said, I don't know why I said
on the way home, Mason was like, I'm not talking to y'all kind of thing.
I don't know if those are the words he was like, he was like ticked off with me and Santana,
I guess because we had like thought it was funny.
Right?
Yeah.
Well, but no, he was in love with Aaron because Aaron took his clothes off and took his shirt
off and his took everything out of his pockets and jumped to the bottom of the lake and found
his iPhone for him.
And he called, he kept calling him his savior and like he was basically telling him, he
was like, Jesus.
It was like, it was hilarious.
But then he was like, I'm not talking to y'all.
And then by the way, we're all four of us in the back seat of, um, me, it's me, Mason
or so Mason, then me and then Santana and Rose, which it probably should have been me
and well, I don't know, you know, me and Mason are the big ones.
Probably should have been on the outside.
It might've been more comfortable.
What Mason is like passed on on top of me, but he's so tall that he's like hanging over
me like a big, like a willow tree and he's pushing me into Santana and Rose and port
road.
They never said anything.
I was like, I kept trying to push him back up, but he's like, really not.
He's so tall that it's like, he's not very flexible either.
You have to try to like, I'd have to like try to push him back the other way and I couldn't
get it.
So I was just like holding myself up and trying not to like run into Santana.
Okay.
Well that is a much more extravagant story than what Mason told me.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
It seemed like it was just two falls in.
Well, the first one, and that's why I was like, I don't know if we should say this.
The first time it happened, he was about to jump in the water.
We had just gotten there and we pulled over and we're all going to go get in the water
and we're all out there and Mason's like, okay, I'm coming.
And then he kind of like stops while he's jumping at the same time and he's like, and
then he starts, he's like, no, no, no, no.
He said he realized he had his phone in his pocket.
And so he like turned sideways trying to get back on the boat while he's jumping, but he's
like slips and falls and like hits the whole side of the boat.
It looks like scraped his leg.
He didn't say that.
Like the second time seemed worse, but it wasn't.
He was actually injured the first time.
But it was like the way that it happened.
Talk about dramatic.
Well, my God, see Mason, I'm sorry.
I know that it was funny.
It wasn't, and it wasn't like you were like being crazy or anything.
I mean, you might also, okay, wait, hold on.
Let me back up.
So the, the, when we were, this was when we were leaving, we were the first, that first
story I told, I look over and I see the, his beer bong cause I forgot it.
We calls it like, he calls it Trina and I can't be like me and Trina got to do something.
And I was like, Katrina, like the lady that cleans our houses.
I was like, you and Katrina have plans.
He's like, who's Katrina?
And I'm like, Katrina is a lady that cleans like everybody's houses.
I thought she probably cleaned your house too, but it sounds like y'all got plans.
He's like, no, the beer bong is named Trina or something like that.
Also not a beer bong.
It's a funnel.
I call it a beer bong.
That's what they're called.
No funnel.
What is a beer bong then?
I the same thing as a funnel.
I don't know.
We need to Google that because it's like, it must be regional.
Like a Southern thing.
Yeah.
Well, you are Southern too.
Yeah, but I went to college in high school in New York.
But didn't you go to college here too?
Not on campus.
Oh, oh, gotcha.
Yeah.
Anyway, so bong, he, okay.
So I'm looking, he's in the water.
Can't see him at all.
All I see is his hand up.
I think his hand was holding the bong.
Like he was like, let me not worry about my phone.
Let me hold this funnel in the air.
So Trina doesn't get hurt by lake water.
So I'm wondering, and it's a plastic green thing that you could probably like buy another
one from somewhere.
A hundred percent.
Right.
It's not like anything fancy.
And he's like holding it.
And I was like, maybe he was standing there trying to do to funnel a beer.
And that's how he lost his balance.
Maybe.
But he doesn't remember.
Maybe, maybe he, maybe I'm making this up that he doesn't remember because I don't remember,
but I don't know.
I asked him that and he was like, I don't think, I don't think he was like, I don't
know if I was doing one or not.
And I'm like, oh my God, that's bad.
That's real bad, but it looks like it sure did.
So anyways, okay.
Do we want to do an FMK?
Yeah, because we forgot last week.
And do you know what?
I was trying to find one earlier and then we lost your phone and now I didn't find one.
So just hold on a second.
Okay.
I've just made one up.
Okay.
So what is going to be metals, gold, silver or rose gold?
Okay.
Is that bad?
No.
Shake your head like boring.
No.
But I think that it's hard.
That's a hard one.
It's not for me.
It's not for me either.
But like the only thing that I have that's rose gold is my Apple watch.
And it's because it's not super rose goldy.
But I am going to marry gold and fuck silver and kill rose gold.
I just don't think that rose gold looks that great on my skin tone.
I don't think it looks.
I think it looks really good on your skin tone.
I don't like it in like other jewelry though, because like I've had silver and rose gold
mixed jewelry before and I don't like it either.
I don't like the way.
I don't like the way that silver looks on me.
But apparently, yeah, I just can't stand it.
See, I'm but I think that I'm gold and silver all the time.
I think that my I probably look better in silver.
I have no idea.
I think that I look better in silver because I have I have I lean towards not excuse me,
not silver, gold, gold, gold.
I like silver better.
I mean, God, why do I keep?
Are you sure about this?
I think that I have a problem with words coming out of my mouth that I don't want to say.
What this happens a lot, by the way, but it's really bad today.
I'm like literally thinking gold in my head and saying silver.
OK, there's something for that.
No.
OK, so I like gold better than silver.
And I think that I like the way that gold looks better on me.
Oh, wait, I think that I like the way that gold looks on me better than silver.
But I don't know if I'm right or if I'm just like thinking that it looks better on me because
I like it.
Or do you know what I mean?
I used to be hardcore for silver.
Like I did not want gold in any of my jewelry.
Nothing.
I think everybody used to be like that.
Yeah.
And now I have gotten to the point where like I mix my metals all the time.
Like I'll wear gold and a silver necklace at the same time.
Each one of my hands has a different color metal on it.
My ears are always gold, but my two.
What are these called?
I don't know.
The big one, the cartilage cartilage.
Yeah.
My cartilage earrings are silver, so I just have mixed metals everywhere.
I like that.
And my nipple rings are black.
Whatever.
I've seen her nipples and they do not have like they don't have piercing.
But that's really funny that you just said that because I almost believe you.
She's like you better whip a boob out.
I need to make sure you didn't get that done.
Oh my God.
I dated this guy for like a hot minute in Auburn a long time ago.
I forgot his name.
It was like Josh or something.
And he had nipple rings and I was like I made him take them out because I thought they were
the weirdest thing.
I was like, why would you?
I don't understand it.
I thought and you feel it.
Have you ever felt somebody like you can feel through their nipple that, oh, it's so weird.
And I just, I was like you have to take that out.
Have you ever had your belly button pierced?
No.
I haven't either.
Good.
They wouldn't call it a belly button piercing on us.
They would call it a trailer hitch.
Okay.
I have my nose pierced though.
What is that?
That's not a trailer hitch.
Okay.
You didn't know the trailer hitch?
Uh-uh.
No.
I mean I got a tramp stamp, but.
Now you do you?
Yes.
Oh my God.
I thought it was somewhere else.
I have two.
Two tramp stamps?
No.
The other one's right here.
Well, I knew you had that one.
Yeah.
Oh man.
That just means you've been closer to my vagina than my butt crack.
Interesting.
I mean, I hope that that is for all people.
But I don't know.
This intro is so off topic from our topic today.
Today guys, we are going to talk about multi-level marketing, AKA pyramid schemes.
How do you say scheme?
Is it scheme?
Scheme.
Scheme?
Or is it scheme?
I usually just do scheme.
Scheme.
Okay.
Scheme.
She likes to pronounce all the F-ing letters in words.
Schemes.
Okay.
All right.
So I want to start by asking you, you know, what do you think an MLM is or what does it
typically mean to you outside of dressing?
So when we say MLM, that means multi-level marketing.
Sorry.
Sarah got me all confused.
She was sending me these messages.
She's like, MLM, we're going to talk about MLM.
I was like, oh, is that mean like M&Ms?
What?
But what does it mean to you outside of a pyramid scheme?
What does it mean to you?
I feel like-
Yeah.
What is your perception of a multi-level marketing company?
That it's a pyramid scheme.
Okay.
Outside of that, can you use more words for me?
Okay.
So don't say pyramid scheme.
Basically say something, a company that's not really a company that tries to make money.
It's one person trying to make money off the whole entire world, basically.
Okay.
I think that's fair.
So throughout your tenure on social media, how many people have approached you to buy
or participate in a multi-level marketing company?
Throughout my tenure, this is so, I feel like we're on 2020 with Barbara Walters.
That's a compliment.
Thank you.
I know.
You're welcome.
Okay.
So a lot of people, and they send you these, and they're obviously like this, it's like
the template that the multi-level marketing company gives you to send to people.
I just copy and paste it.
Hey.
And it's like people that I don't even, I've never talked to before.
And then, so recently I got one from someone, we won't say who it was, and it was like one
of those like weight loss ones.
And I'm like, what are you trying to say?
I didn't respond, but I was like, oh, they were like, you could see all this stuff that,
and I'm like, are you only sending this to like fat people?
Probably.
You should have asked that.
That's so wisdom.
No, you should have.
No.
Not to make them feel bad, but like, I mean, whatever.
It's a legit question.
Like, I mean, so I'll start off by saying I joined a multi-level marketing company in
the summer of 2017.
I was on the heels of a really bad breakup and I wanted to make some extra cash, but
I knew that I didn't want to go get like a for real second job where I had to like report
somewhere.
Cause I mean, I worked probably, you know, at that time, 55, 60 hours a week, like including,
you know, a commute, whatever.
And I was trying to make some additional money so I could go to our friend's wedding in Greece.
So you spent money to make money.
I did.
And it's hilarious because when I first started, things are definitely different now and not
necessarily for the better.
But when I first started, you did have to buy in and they had different packages that
you could buy in.
And so I bought in at the mid-level one and it was about $700.
I used my tax return to invest.
And you could have just used that $700 towards your trip.
A hundred percent.
That's so crazy.
It was the dumbest thing ever.
Okay, sorry.
I'm just, yeah.
Yeah, keep going.
But anyways, it was also about like the person that I joined under was a good friend of mine.
And she's older than me.
Like, I mean, probably 10 years or more older than me, but I was kind of spending some time
with, you know, her and her family or whatever.
And I was like, let me just do this.
I met with her multiple times before I actually did it.
And then one day I was finally like, whatever, I'm just going to do it.
There were some products that I wanted to get in my package anyways.
But as soon as I clicked, you know, go or whatever and signed up, I, there was probably
about two weeks where I did probably get some help that others maybe didn't get or whatever.
But I felt from just about the beginning that I was set up for failure.
Well, duh.
So I, okay, this, I'm not going to say that I did a multi-level marketing thing, but I
did, like, technically I think you can probably still look at my name and I think I might
still be a consultant for this company.
Same company that you did it for.
But I only did it because I wanted to get a discount on the stuff that I was going to
buy from this girl.
She literally, I don't even think I ever talked to her ever again after I signed up.
But you wouldn't have been able to get a discount from her.
You would have gotten your own discount.
Right.
I was getting it.
Yeah.
The discount.
Yeah.
So as somebody who sells products, you get a specific discount and then you can also
have folks that are your customers that can get a smaller percent discount.
Well, what I was just trying to get the discount for the pack, I was trying to buy the stuff
anyway.
So I wanted to get, you could get like, I don't know what it was, probably like 25.
It was like more than any other discount they had.
And I was just trying to get that for the pack and you buy more and then you just, and
I was like, okay, I'll just do it.
And I just was like, I think I tried to sell one thing maybe one time and I don't even
think it worked out for me.
Yeah.
Well, and I actually did really well in the beginning and I did use all of that money
that I made to pay for my trip to Greece for that wedding.
And so I didn't have to ask my parents for money or dip into my savings account, nothing
like that.
But it was sort of like, I don't know, almost like crack as far as making the money goes
because you had to fill these different buckets or whatever.
And even if you filled one and you didn't fill the other, then your percent commission
was going to be different.
So I ended up finding myself, buying myself out to fill both buckets just so I could get
a better commission.
Well, I think that they do that on purpose probably.
Oh, I'm sure of it.
And right after I signed up, like a couple months later, the person who I signed up under
ended up moving and where they moved, they just didn't have great cell phone reception.
They were going through a transition in life, moving across the country and with two kids,
new jobs, her husband both.
And I didn't have the support that I had in the beginning.
And so it was kind of frustrating and I was one of those doing the reach outs that you
just referenced and it was so uncomfortable.
I hated it, but I did what we were trained to do.
And so initially the training, there's no formal training.
Like this is what, so this is say, we like did this with the same company, but like you
were saying this is what we were trained to do.
Nobody told me to do anything.
I literally signed up and I didn't get anything.
Yeah.
Right.
And so that, I mean, that's part of it.
Like I guess, I guess in a way I got lucky enough to have somebody at least point me
in some sort of direction, but it was a Facebook page of this woman who was very high up in
the company.
She has since been fired from the company because she was creating fake accounts up
underneath her to boost, you know, her income.
I mean, it was wild, very crazy.
Um, but that's, you know, where I went out to watch these videos that she created.
I mean, all these new people coming in were watching all the same kind of videos.
So of course there's saturation in different areas, but I also had like this, you know,
weird unique situation where I have friends in Birmingham and in the South, but then I
also have friends in New York.
And so these people in New York that I'm not talking to, but I'm trying not to hit the
same people, you know, too close together.
Like I ended up alienating myself from these people that like they, we weren't like great
friends, but like, I don't want to ever see them in public and they'd be like, Oh my God,
we got to avoid that bitch because she's trying to sell us something, you know?
Oh my God.
Really?
Yeah.
They ended up blocking me on Facebook messenger after, you know, two, three messages or whatever.
And you know, the company just kept pushing, you know, the more nos that you receive, the
closer you are to the yeses and that sort of thing.
And that's bullsh.
You know what it's doing is telling you're going out there and advertising for them essentially.
Yeah, absolutely.
Any it's free advertising.
For sure.
You go out there and you're telling people, Oh, and they're like, well, what is this company?
So then they look it up if they don't haven't heard of it before.
Well, and if they have somebody that they're friends with better friends than they are
with me, they're going to sign up under them or buy from them.
Which I mean, it's genius if you want to get rich, if you're the person that's starting
it, like, well, and the company didn't start as multi-level marketing.
They were in department stores at first.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, they pulled their products from the shelf and set up this business model.
And you know, the same business model that other people use and it's basically a pyramid
scheme.
Yeah.
And I feel like stay and I'm the one thing that I will say and I'll get to it in a little
bit, but it wasn't all a terrible experience.
Like there are some great things that I got from it and I'll talk like your eyelashes
and your skin and all the things.
Yeah.
But in this company isn't the only one.
And I feel like, you know, often stay at home moms are targeted for this kind of thing because
they have the availability to do it and not that they're not doing anything at home.
You know, some stay at home mom have kids with them before they go to daycare, before
they go to school or what have you.
But I do feel like that was one of the groups that was very widely targeted.
And same thing with LuLaRoe.
There's a whole docu-series out there on that.
And that stuff is so not even cute anyways.
Well it was wild.
I mean, and I don't know, you know, what the payouts are that, you know, if they're the
same sort of structure or whatever, but I feel like unless you sell a shit ton of products
or you recruit a shit ton of people, you're never going to make a whole bunch of money.
Oh yeah.
It's just never going to happen.
And then they're like, oh, you're going to get this Lexus or give this person a Lexus.
And I'm like, hmm, is that real?
Yeah.
And, you know, after I made the money that I needed to, you know, go to Greece or whatever,
I was barely breaking even.
I mean, it was the, you know, my checks coming in when I bought myself out, I was barely
breaking even.
So why was I even doing it?
And I did that for a really long time.
And finally I was like, so why were you trying to fill the buckets yourself if you weren't
really going to be making any money?
I think at the time it was just like meet these goals because I also knew-
Because you're a goal oriented person and if you don't meet it, you're one of those
people.
You're a target for this.
Goal oriented-
For sure.
But I also knew that it helped other people like in my group or whatever.
And I wanted them to be able to meet their goals, but I was also accomplishing quote
unquote something at the same time, regardless of whether it was a financial accomplishment
or in the black, you know, financially for me.
And I mean, I have some major regrets about it, but like I will say that I still am signed
up under the company.
I am definitely not active.
There are some folks who buy stuff for me, but it's not consistent.
I am not out there messaging people and I feel a lot better about myself.
So you guys can unblock Sarah.
Exactly.
Yes.
Unblock me on messenger because I'm not going to harass you anymore.
She might harass you with this podcast, but not for sure.
Not to sell you anything that is-
Right.
Well, maybe later.
And I mean, I would say the reason why I have stuck with it is because there are still products
that I buy that are legit and I do think that they work and I like them.
But I made some really good friends while I did it and these are women that I would-
Okay.
So how did you meet these friends?
Did you all like meetings?
A little bit.
So I missed the very first Christmas party, I think.
And then-
See, I never got any of that.
We didn't have a Christmas party.
Nobody talked to me afterwards.
Yeah.
What the heck?
I showed up at a Christmas party in Trustful and everybody else was from out of town.
I couldn't stay very long for it, but I did go.
And so I met a handful of people, but then I left for Cleveland.
And so there was a chunk of time where I did miss out on some things, but I went on a couple
beach retreats with people and so-
They had beach retreats?
Yeah.
See, you had-
I mean, there were like 60 women in two houses.
I didn't even have an experience.
I just had like 60.
Oh yeah.
We had two beach houses one time.
It was a great experience.
And that's what I'm saying.
I mean, I was not part of it, I liked, but I wasn't necessarily serious about the training
or retreat part that was going on.
I went to go spend time with the people that I'd met because that was the only opportunity
I was going to have because they lived across the Southeast.
Did you have to pay for your beach trip?
Yeah.
Oh.
But I mean, but it was not very much.
If you had a real job, you wouldn't have to have to pay for your beach trip if you were
going to training.
Oh, fair enough.
Yeah.
If that were a real legit company that does stuff like that.
100%.
And I understand that.
But it was just a good, that part of it I enjoyed.
I've never paid to go to a convention or anything like that, but I have gone on several
trips and I'm still friends with these people.
And there have been things that we have all gone through that we've had somebody else
to lean on.
And that part has been a treat.
I had a friend come visit me who I met through doing this and she came a couple of weekends
ago.
She's a mom of three and lives in North Alabama, but she came down here.
We're still friends.
Whenever she comes through Birmingham, she will shout out at me or whatever and I'll
go grab lunch with her and her kids or whatever.
And that is the thing that I appreciate about it the most.
But not everybody's going to have that experience, so I'm definitely not-
So it's like a sorority.
Pay money.
In a sense, sure.
You kind of get a little bit of product and then you find friends.
And listen, I am all for a sorority.
If you're going to a school and you don't know anybody, I think it's a good way to... I
think people... It doesn't matter if you're paying to go do some activities for a sorority.
They're like, oh, you're paying for your friends.
I'm like, well, technically if you were to go to the bar or go to somewhere and you're
paying for your friends at that point too because you have to pay to-
I guess in a way I owe you an apology then because you're very right and I've never taken
a step back to look at that comparison.
So, sorry.
I mean, it kind of is.
I called her a sorositude and I can't remember if we put it on here or not.
We did.
And we talked about it multiple times.
So my apologies.
Oh, so next weekend we're going to Savannah Bananas.
Just kidding.
I'm going to stop talking about that.
So what else do you have to say about these mobile marketing?
I don't think that I would do it again.
I definitely think that it, I don't know.
I guess it depends on what the buy-in is because it definitely wasn't worth the money that
I spent and they've changed the way that you come to participate now and it's different
and it can potentially be a lot less money than it was previously.
So what do you think about-
Okay, so this might also kind of roll into one of the next episodes that we want to do,
but is it called Nexium?
Wasn't that a mid-level marketing that turned into a cult?
Yes.
So do you think, I mean, I can't remember how that all, how it even turned into a cult
because I feel like it was, they were selling, what were they selling?
They were selling executive professionalism.
Oh yeah, like leadership development type stuff.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then they started doing crazy things.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
We can talk about that next.
Yeah, for sure.
Oh, cults.
Yeah.
Yeah, we definitely-
We got to bring a special guest in for that though.
Yeah, we're going to have a special guest hopefully.
He's a little afraid to come and talk about conspiracy theories because he said he might
get on the watch list.
He's going to be like, I'm going to be on the do not fly list.
Oh, do not fly.
No, dude, you're not.
I don't think people are really that worried about us right now.
No.
Unless you start doing some crazy stuff.
I don't know.
I would say join an MLM at your discretion, but I would say ask more questions upfront
than you think are necessary.
I have no idea what Google says, but if I had the opportunity to like think about it
again, I definitely would have done a whole lot more research and maybe even talk to people
outside of those who were kind of like recruiting me just to see what their opinion is.
Of course, if they're trying to pitch it, their opinion is going to be great, but it's
still, you could get a different vibe from somebody else even if they're still talking
positively.
I know some other folks that have had terrible experiences with even this same company, but
definitely do your research and ask a lot of questions.
I feel like if you are struggling in the very beginning, make sure that there's some sort
of money back guarantee situation within a number of days because part of me feels like
I probably should have pulled the plug within the first 60 days and I didn't do it.
Well, at some point, okay, so this company is a, when I signed up for the whole thing
and did all this stuff, it was a long time ago, and a lot of people didn't really know
about this company.
Right.
That's why I was also not doing anything because I was like, nobody even knows what this is,
but now everyone knows this company for the most part.
Yeah.
I want to say they're on a Forbes list.
Well, yeah.
It's hard to find an area where you don't have multiple people selling it.
For sure.
At this point, it's like, maybe don't sign up for that one because we won't say, what
is this?
Because you might not have any customers.
Well, and I do think that I did probably not, I don't want to say target.
I don't think that that's the appropriate word, but the majority of my reach outs were
to people in New York because I knew that it wasn't that prevalent up there.
And so that's where obviously I'm trying to reach out to because I wanted to be the one
to saturate that market.
It didn't ever happen, but.
Those are the ones that blocked you.
Yeah.
Because in Alabama, you don't block people.
You just keep them on there and you don't look at it and you talk crap about them behind
their back and say, bless your heart.
In New York, they're like, F you block.
Not even an F you, it's just a block.
In Alabama, they want to keep you on so that they can see all the crap you're doing and
then talk about you.
Yes.
They want to see you're crazy and talk about it for sure.
Definitely.
That's funny.
Okay.
So next weekend, we're going to Savannah bananas.
Yes.
They're playing the Birmingham Barons, right?
No, we're watching them play the party animals.
Wait, what?
Who are the party animals?
It's the team that they are usually on the ticker talkers with.
I thought we were watching them play the Birmingham Bears.
I thought it was like the Globetrotters who where they would go play like a regular.
Let me double check my tickets really quick because I'm pretty sure that's not what it
says.
Yeah.
Like I'm pretty sure it is.
I'm like, I've got it open.
Yeah.
Banana ball.
Oh, yeah.
I've never heard of any of these before, so what do they do?
Is it like the Globetrotters?
Yes, 100%.
So, but how do they do tricks with baseball?
I think it's more like dancing stuff like into like songs.
Cartwheels and stuff to the base or something.
And like just funny stuff, like comical stuff.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm so excited.
The umpires are in on it and everything.
I haven't been to the Barons Stadium for a game.
We're not going there.
What?
No, we're going to Rick Woodfield.
Oh my God.
Okay.
That's good to know because where is that?
First of all, I was going to show up at the wrong place.
Are you sure?
I swear.
Also, I saw that the Rick Woodfield something about it on the news this morning.
Field of Dreams.
Wait, what?
Yes.
Did they do that there?
That's what I read.
I don't even know.
So, okay.
So hold on.
What?
Yes.
So is that, so where is it?
First of all, and second, what is it used for?
Hang on.
And why are they playing there?
I have so many questions.
Who are the party animals?
Oh my gosh.
I got to look this up.
Hang on.
Right here it says Major League Baseball hosting 2024 Field of Dreams game in Birmingham, Alabama
in game between the Giants and the Cardinals.
I heard the Field of Dreams.
What does that mean?
They're calling it the Field of Dreams game, but like, what is, why are they calling it
that?
Um, I don't know.
Because that's a movie.
I know that.
Or a book or something too, maybe.
I'm pausing that again.
Um, it says Rickwood is the oldest ballpark in the country and was the home of the Birmingham
Black Barons.
The Barons.
They called them the Birmingham Black Barons?
Because they were a black league team with Willie Mays played before joining the old
New York Giants.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I didn't know we had the oldest.
Hold on.
Why is it called the Field of Dreams?
I don't know.
I think that's how the MLB is, um, reporting it.
It's Second Avenue West.
I have no idea where that is, honestly.
I don't either.
And is it near, um, Legion Field maybe?
I'll get on the Googles.
Hold on.
Okay.
Yes, it is close to Legion Field.
Okay.
It's like past Legion Field though.
You get off at Birmingham Southern and go down past Legion Field and then take another
like couple streets.
It's close to Princeton.
Baptist.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yep.
Okay.
Cool.
Yeah.
So now you won't show up at the wrong place.
Thank you.
Oh my gosh.
I know.
Thank you to me, huh?
Yeah.
But I saw it on the news today.
I think they're doing like renovations or something to it.
Yes.
So this.
I guess we'll find out.
Was baseball invented in Birmingham?
No.
It's the oldest baseball field that's standing or like that was ever built.
Girl, I do not know.
We need to know these things.
I'm going to, I'm going to look at them.
I just found that on one article.
You keep looking if you would like, but I'm so excited to go see the Savannah bananas.
I follow them on TikTok.
I think they're hysterical and I cannot wait to see it.
I've never seen that.
I'm going to have to watch this on YouTube.
Um, yeah.
The Savannah bananas.
Yeah.
I've never seen anything.
I just heard.
I was like, they're like, they do tricks and things.
It's hysterical.
So where are the party animals from there?
I think they are part of the Savannah bananas.
Like they're not, they're traveling together.
Like they wear black uniforms.
They could interchange the teams.
I have literally got that.
That's cool.
So they just go around and do this stuff.
Yeah.
Cool.
Are they like old baseball players or something?
Well, I think that they do play the Barons though.
Like I think the, that's what I thought we were going to.
I know because I think that they're playing, um, either earlier in that day or the next
day that they're actually playing at Regions field and playing the Barons.
But I don't know who plays for what team, if it can be interchangeable or you know,
what have you, I have no idea.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So like they truly playing like, is it a farm league that the Barons is?
What's it called?
Farm league?
Yeah, I don't know.
It's a minor league.
Okay.
Sure.
I think it's, that's what it's called.
Yeah.
A farm, but basically what you're saying far, I've never heard it called farm league before,
but like, yes, they're basically farming the, the baseball players.
I don't know.
I thought that's what it was called.
It's a feeder.
Farm league.
I know that maybe it is.
I know that they do have feeders because doesn't, don't the Barons feed to the Braves?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then like, you know, they have the Huntsville, they used to be the Huntsville stars.
Who is it now?
The, uh, trash pandas.
Trash pandas.
I was going to call them the Havoc.
They're the hockey, um, trash pandas.
I think, I don't know if they also go to the Braves and, or to somewhere else, but, but
yeah, anyway, so it's going to be a good next weekend.
It's supposed to rain.
So that'll be fun sitting in the rain, but I'm going, I don't care.
I'll put my hair in a ponytail.
I have been dying to see these people.
Yeah.
I got to go get one.
I guess.
Yeah.
It's going to be hot as fire up under there in a poncho.
Oh Lord.
Well, it's going to be better than being soaking wet and like having to like have like wet jeans
or something on you.
I will not be wearing jeans or a wet anything.
Wet underwear is the worst jeans in the summer.
I know.
I sent my Stitch Fix person a note on there on the thing that was like, Hey, by the way,
like can you send some dresses for the summer?
Yes.
I said I would love some more black dresses since I only wear black dresses during the
summer.
You go sweat man.
I said, um, I said the last pair, they sent me some jeans that were like these like stretchy
pull on, but they were so like cropped and they looked like capris on me and my legs
are short.
And I think they probably sent them to me because they try to send me short pants because
my legs are so short, but um, they were like capris.
Oh, there's a pair of jeans.
Yeah.
There's a pair of jeans that are like very, very wide leg and they're supposed to be cropped.
But when I sit down, they look like capris on me and I hate them.
And I wore them to Philly for work.
And so I'm like on the plane wearing these things and I'm like, I fucking hate every
minute of this.
Why did you wear them?
I don't know because when I stood up in the mirror, it looked fine.
I didn't sit practice sitting down and all that shit.
That would probably should have been a good idea to do.
Yeah, apparently so I'm going to have to do it moving forward.
Oh my gosh.
Cause I was so mad.
So what are you going to do with those jeans?
They're still sitting in the closet.
So you're going to throw them away?
Probably not.
I'll probably wear them again.
And hate yourself.
Yes.
I will.
I'll hate myself the entire time I'm wearing them.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
So I watched, I think it's new, but the Amy Schumer thing came out.
It's called, oh my God, I don't know what it's called, but she's wearing a pink dress
and it just, I watched it last night and she has been, so let me just back up for the past
couple of weeks, the back of my neck where my hump is, you know, this like, you know,
where you like hunch over, I have a hunchback of Notre Dame, but it's been hurting.
Okay.
And Amy Schumer talks about her, her, how she went like to the doctor or something.
And they were like, by the way, you have a hump.
And they were like, she was like, um, what?
She's like, and they're like, you have a hump back here.
Like, and she's like, okay, well, what do we do about that?
And they're like, I mean, there's not really anything you can do.
And she's like, okay.
So you just wanted me to know.
Thanks for letting me know guys.
Like, why are you telling me this?
That's what they say.
If you can't fix it in like five seconds, don't tell the person or like, I don't know.
It's five seconds or five minutes or whatever it is.
You can't fix it within two minutes.
Don't tell the other person.
Yeah.
Okay.
You can tell them that they have something in their teeth, but don't tell them that their
hair color is the wrong color or something.
Oh yeah.
You know, can you imagine?
Yeah.
That's funny.
Yeah.
So, but I liked it.
It was okay.
So I will say that some of the parts were funny, but I'm not a huge fan of hers.
I want to movies better.
I thought about you last night.
Whenever this happened, I was watching.
Because I know you said you weren't a good fan, big fan.
I was like, if she watched this, she'd be like, no, I'm definitely not.
I didn't think she was as funny as, but maybe you will like it because I liked her other
ones.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You'll see it.
It wasn't, it wasn't as like, ha ha.
Like it wasn't as die, dying, crying, laughing as, which I wasn't like that with the other
ones, but I still like her though.
I'll check it out.
And she talks about her, like her husband and her friends and stuff.
And then like all been getting married now.
And it's actually, you know, it's she, I, I like her because she talks about like real
life things that happen.
For sure.
Doesn't her husband have Asperger's?
Well, it's she's on the autism spectrum now.
And that's what she said.
She said it used to be called Asperger's, but, but apparently Dr. Asperger has like
ties to like Nazi Germany or something.
Oh, yeah.
To like the Nazi party.
And she was like, yeah, so we're not going to call it that anymore.
I gotcha.
Yeah.
Something like that.
So, you know, catch us on that, that IG.
Yeah.
So I will say, we'll give a little preview.
We recorded something tonight and on video that we're going to share with you guys here
soon.
So look forward to seeing our actual faces on our Instagram or YouTube.
Or potentially a YouTube channel.
But yes, it's very funny.
If you watch it, like we were not, this is an, you're welcome for posting us doing this
dumb stuff.
Being stupid.
Yes.
So anyways, thank you.
Thank you for being with us tonight.
And you can find us on Instagram at Thick AF Podcast.
You can send us an email, talk about what content you want to hear and things like that.
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Bye.
ABCDEFG.
I have to go.
I don't know why it's so good.
I'm going to cry.