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Hi, welcome to Sonic Cereal.

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I'm Jesse.

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And I'm Mark.

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And in this podcast, we take a deep dive into albums from some of our favorite artists

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track by track.

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Like Bjork, who we're doing today.

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And we're continuing with our album Vespertine and it was released in August 19th, 2001.

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And it's classified as Artpop, Glitchpop, Folktronica.

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And it was released on the One Little Independent Records.

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And the theme is introversion and intimacy.

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Have I asked you before?

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But are you, would you consider yourself an introvert?

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Yeah, I'm very much an introvert, but I'm a reluctant extrovert because I have to be.

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I get that.

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What about you?

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Well, I'd say I'm 80%.

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No 90%.

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Introvert.

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And what's the other 10%?

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Extrovert.

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But it only comes out when I'm drinking.

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Or like right now.

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Yeah.

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Usually I'm just like, yeah, okay.

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You're just like a throw pillow on the sofa.

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Hey, I got more to say about this later.

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Okay, before we start, before we start, I listened to these three songs when I was at

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the gym a few days ago for the first time.

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And it was the first time in a long time.

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And something came to me like in a vision.

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It's weird.

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Like I had my eyes closed because I was like working out and it just, this came to me.

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I think we have to say what songs we're talking about here.

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Oh.

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We're talking about Heirloom, Harm of Will, and Unison.

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That's right.

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Okay.

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So regarding these three songs.

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Yeah.

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I was at the gym.

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I was listening to them and I closed my eyes and as I finished the third song, I just had

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this vision of like, okay, imagine a secret script that was being written by Steven Soderbergh

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and David Cronenberg together.

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Oh, I would be excited for that.

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And the topic is, it's about human trafficking in medieval times.

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Interesting.

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Okay.

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Keep listening.

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So when I listened to it, imagine if it's a film and this is a soundtrack for it.

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Heirloom opens the film with like the protagonist, which is played by Bjork as an old woman,

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but it's actually played by her now.

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And she's reflecting on her life and her experience and having been trafficked and married to

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the man that she didn't know.

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Why?

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Wait, this is Heirloom.

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So think of the lyrics.

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Give me a lyric.

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I have a recurrent dream every time I feel a hoarseness in my throat.

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Yeah.

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So she's like an old woman reflecting back on her life.

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And then she dreams about her son and her mom walking above her and feeding her.

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No, no, no.

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That doesn't have to do with my script.

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Anyway, Heirloom is basically her and his old woman reminiscing about her life as having

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been trafficked in medieval times.

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Harm of Will is about like in her teens, right after she's been trafficked and transported

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halfway around the world and she's sold to a man and then she's forced to do unspeakable

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things against her will to him.

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And this Bjork would be or this character would be played by Bjork's daughter.

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That's cool.

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And then Unison is like where she finally gives in.

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It's the end of the film.

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She finally gives in initially saying that she'd never compromise, but then she gives

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in and accepts her life and she's like, this is how it's going to be.

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And then this younger or this kind of forties one would be played by, I think, Natalie Portman,

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but you said Kim Kardashian.

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It did not.

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So you thought about this in the gym?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Like how these three songs would make the perfect like beginning, middle and end to

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a film about human trafficking in medieval times.

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And that's what you were laughing about?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I worry about you.

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Okay.

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So let's start with the first one of these tracks, Heirloom.

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So this is when she's an old woman.

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It's Heirloom.

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Yeah.

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Do you have an heirloom?

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Do you?

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No, do you?

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My grandfather gave me some things before he passed away that I kind of thought are

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very special.

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Yeah.

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And if I had kids, I would like say, this is why this is important.

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Would my dad's guitar be considered an heirloom?

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If it's something that would be passed along generation to generation.

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I think I just stole it.

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So I don't know.

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Is it something that'd be passed on from generation to generation?

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I can pass.

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Yeah, I can pass it on.

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Okay.

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Then yeah.

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All right.

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No, I probably wouldn't want to pass it on because I'm a hoarder.

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Are you going to hoard past your death?

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Yeah.

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I'm really.

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Bury it all with me.

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Can you imagine?

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All right.

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Can you imagine a hoarder wanting that, leaving that in their will?

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I'm surprised there isn't a lot of stories about that.

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Okay.

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Well, this is a track that stands out from the rest where Bjork sings over a pre-recorded

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somewhat lo-fi track.

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Okay.

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Mrs. Rackleman.

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She was my organ teacher when I was a kid.

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You found her online?

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Yes.

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What?

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You guys should reconnect.

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Is she still?

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No.

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Oh.

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Anyway, Mrs. Rackleman, she was my organ teacher and this song reminds me of her.

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All right.

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She's real mean.

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Well, you know what it reminds me of?

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She would put the metronome on and then have a ruler.

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You guys would play songs like this?

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No.

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Why does it remind you of your organ?

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Because the song has organ in it.

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Yeah.

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Duh.

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Okay.

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It reminds me of my grandma's organ.

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Because it's like a double entendre.

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Sure.

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I'm not sure.

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It reminds me of your organ.

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The German artist Martin Gretzschmann, aka Consul, made an album in 1998 called Rocket

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in the Pocket and Björk kind of grabbed me little hands all over it.

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She especially liked to track crab crafts, so she sang some of her lyrics over it and

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recorded it for Vesperteen.

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And she did contact Consul in 2000 to get his blessings and they met in London, so what?

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So what?

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Okay.

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Good for them.

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I know, right?

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So how does it flow within the album Flow?

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It sticks out, but at the same time it kind of blends in.

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Calm down.

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Okay.

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Yeah, it sticks out, but at the same time it blends in by being gentle and beautiful

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and dreamy.

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It kind of feels like she didn't want to go there, but towards the end she just like,

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I'll just have it, let's do it.

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That's the best time.

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Yeah.

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Okay, tell us about production.

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It starts with a bossa nova beat or a samba preset, a beat on an organ, then some friendly

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synths come in, including a cute chubby bass.

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There's also some kind of reversing tricks in the production.

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Yeah, it's really cool.

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Which I think is a good cool contrast to the organ, which is so traditional from an electronic

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perspective.

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Right.

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And it reminds me of the Pulsar service or Casiotone for the painfully alone.

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Do you know them?

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Yeah.

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You want to play some?

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Sure.

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That was nice.

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What does this song mean?

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Heirloom is about a dream Björk often has where her mom and her son Trappis walk above

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her and feed her warm glowing oils for her throat.

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That's sweet.

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But honestly, if I saw that in my dream, I'd be scared.

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Why is it oil?

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They're trying to kill me.

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I like where she says, I swallow little glowing lights.

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My mother and son baked for me.

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It's just a nice image.

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Yeah.

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I swallow little glowing lights.

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I could see you eating glowing lights.

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Get it girl.

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And I just realized there's a lot of swallowing references in this album and songs like Cocoon,

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Sun in My Mouth and Heirloom.

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Okay, do you have any recurring dreams?

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I was gonna ask you.

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Well, when I was little, I used to have a lot of being able to fly and waffle dreams.

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Yeah.

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How come we never have waffles?

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We don't have a waffle maker.

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That's true.

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I mean, we could get one.

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Yeah.

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We could be here by tomorrow.

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I like waffles.

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You do?

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More than pancakes?

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Yes.

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Really?

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Paris waffles were good.

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Oh yes.

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But we digress.

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Yeah, live performances.

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The first time she performed Heirloom live was at Coachella in 2002.

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Were you there?

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Yeah.

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Did you see her?

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Yeah.

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And you saw that?

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Tell me about it.

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I don't know.

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I was walking around all the different tents.

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I didn't stay for her whole thing because there's other bands I wanted to see.

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How many times have you been to Coachella?

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Five.

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Six times.

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So that's a lot.

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So I feel like you're just gonna run them all together and like, tell me about it.

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I don't know.

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Do you have any recurring dreams?

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No, but I always have dreams about the house I grew up in.

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So it's like recurring settings.

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Yeah, it's like I'm in high school still.

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So I guess that's like a really special moment I'm trying to hold on to, I guess.

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No, you're thinking back and wondering what you could have done differently.

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Yeah.

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If you could go to high school again, would you?

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If you could go to one time in your life.

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I asked you the question.

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Yeah I'd go back.

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Yeah.

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Like what, just to like hang out for a day or like go back and have to relive my whole

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life from then on?

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Yeah relive your whole life.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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If I knew what I know now.

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Or would you rather do one day?

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No, if I knew what I knew now, I probably would.

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Okay.

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Would you?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Well, the last time she performed this heirloom song was in 2013.

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You sound like you're mad at it.

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I am.

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At the electric picnic in Ireland.

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And what about the critics?

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Well, one critic said this song feels like stepping into a surreal dreamy space.

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The pulsing electronic beat kind of mirrors a heartbeat, grounding you as Bjork's voice

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floats above it all.

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It's intimate, introspective, like she's letting you into her personal dreamscape.

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I guess.

269
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It's like we're her therapist and she's telling us like where her dream is.

270
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Girl, are you crazy?

271
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Yeah.

272
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All right.

273
00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:48,160
Well, if you want to talk about remixes, I can tell you that my brother did a mashup

274
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with Gabriel and Justin's Arcadia and it's cool.

275
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So people can just deal.

276
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And I think this is my brother's favorite song off the album, if I have to speak for

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him.

278
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I'm going to shut up, bro.

279
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And Bup Midler.

280
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Wait, can we hear that?

281
00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,240
Yeah.

282
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All right.

283
00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:21,720
Well, Bup Midler can't top that.

284
00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,520
But they did a mashup with Ayers, Alone in Kyoto.

285
00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,240
Yeah, we talked about that on the Ayre episode.

286
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We did.

287
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Talking Wocky.

288
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So check it out.

289
00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:39,360
And then there's also the Heirloom redo mix, RIDU.

290
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That's good.

291
00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,880
Yeah.

292
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,440
Cute.

293
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Well, you know, that's it.

294
00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:02,840
We're going to move on to Harm of Will, 11th track.

295
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This is when Bjork in the movie is in her 20s.

296
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And she's first getting trafficked.

297
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I don't want to hear about this traffic anymore.

298
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Stop.

299
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It's not funny.

300
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Fine, give me your one line.

301
00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,360
It would be such an amazing film score for that film.

302
00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:41,120
Yes, this is like the heartwarming dramatic version of In Echoes Stain and a more epic

303
00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,440
version of You've Been Flirting Again.

304
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We talked about that.

305
00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,440
Yeah.

306
00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,440
We did it.

307
00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,440
Yeah.

308
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,440
In her post episode.

309
00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,440
Check it out.

310
00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,440
Yeah.

311
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And W W dot.

312
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What's your first impression?

313
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I even put that there.

314
00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,520
I know.

315
00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:13,280
Um, I thought it was a heavy tune when I first heard it, but ever so beautiful.

316
00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,280
In filmmakers.

317
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,040
Just like fit in with my teen angst.

318
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I was like, this is what I feel right now.

319
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No one understands.

320
00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:32,120
And speaking of that time filmmaker Harmony Corrine, who did gumbo and Julian, Donkey

321
00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:38,520
Boy and Spring Breakers was hanging out with Bjork in the late nineties and wrote this

322
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song for her called Harm of Will.

323
00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:43,600
Yeah.

324
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,280
Yeah, I don't know about that.

325
00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,920
I don't know how they met.

326
00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:56,400
I'm assuming like she just saw gumbo and she was like, this shit slaps.

327
00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,560
I have to meet this genius or whatever.

328
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:08,840
And she was like, she met him.

329
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,960
You know, if you're in with the end crowd, you're in with the end crowd.

330
00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,160
Why did you pick this photo?

331
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,960
Because it's from gumbo.

332
00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,560
I know, but why did you pick this one?

333
00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,920
Because Harmony Corrine.

334
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,360
I know.

335
00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:22,360
You don't know.

336
00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:24,520
Yeah, we saw him on the thing.

337
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,520
On David.

338
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,840
He did a bunch of interviews with David.

339
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:28,840
Yeah, check them out.

340
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,840
They're good.

341
00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:30,840
They're fun.

342
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,520
How does this fit with the album's flow?

343
00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:43,640
Well, it's like a nice, heavy, gentle confrontation before the big finale.

344
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:44,800
Right.

345
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,160
Heavy, nice, heavy, gentle confrontation.

346
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,160
Yeah.

347
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,760
You know what that's like?

348
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,560
No.

349
00:18:54,560 --> 00:19:04,280
It's just like, it's like, say my boss and I were like, I fucking hate you.

350
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,520
And it was just like, you know what?

351
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,520
I'm sorry.

352
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:14,000
It's like I'm sorry too.

353
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,480
You understand now?

354
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,480
I understand.

355
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,720
All right, then let's move on to production.

356
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,240
So there's Strings by Bjork and Vince Mendoza.

357
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:36,000
There's a choir and good old Celesta by Guy Sigsworth.

358
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:45,200
Anyway, speaking of Guy Sigsworth, they also have another Celesta song, which is a cover

359
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,760
of Joni Mitchell's The Boho Dance.

360
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:59,600
Do you like that?

361
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,520
Yeah, I like it.

362
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,240
I like it too.

363
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:09,400
And there are some interesting chocolate sounds of Bjork breathing in the background and she

364
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,280
did it just for the hell of it.

365
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,280
Why not?

366
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,200
She didn't, but she does it all for the hell of it.

367
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:28,080
Hey, she could have just like, did something like throughout the whole song and she was

368
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:33,080
like, why not?

369
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,920
You know what I'm saying?

370
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:46,280
Well, there's some, Bjork said she spent months writing the strings and she went for a less

371
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,720
melodic abstract approach.

372
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:57,800
She wanted to be clouds of exaltation, erotic energy and coming and going.

373
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,800
That sounds like where it's at.

374
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,400
Am I right?

375
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,680
You're right.

376
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,320
And it reminds me of All Is Full of Love.

377
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaking of, have I told you about my All Is Full of Love mashup that I did with Sigurdurfs?

378
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,480
I mean, Royx, Royx's song?

379
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,680
I think that's how you say it.

380
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,680
No.

381
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,680
Their song.

382
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,440
Tell me about it.

383
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,440
Called Sparks.

384
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,440
Check it out.

385
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:45,400
I've been wanting to show you for a long time.

386
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,360
Why have you had that locked away?

387
00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:50,080
I don't know.

388
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,880
I forgot.

389
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,240
What does this song mean?

390
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:09,960
Some have speculated this song is about artist slash singer Will Oldham, aka Bonnie Prince,

391
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,800
since he was affiliated with Homniacorine.

392
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,800
Bonnie Prince Billy?

393
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:22,000
Sorry, I call him by his first name.

394
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,720
Bonnie Prince Billy, since he was friends with Homniacorine Björk.

395
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:36,160
Well, someone also said it's about a libertine troubadour who indulges in casual sexual pleasure

396
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,760
with the conquests.

397
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,920
What kind of vibes does it give you?

398
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:54,760
It gives me Vicomte de Valmont vibes from Dangerous Liaisons, if you know you know.

399
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,760
Would you agree?

400
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,440
Have you seen Dangerous Liaisons?

401
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:03,560
You know, I didn't see it until kind of recently, like four years ago or something.

402
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,560
Wow.

403
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,600
It's the same as Cruel Intention.

404
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,600
Yeah.

405
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760
Which one did you like better?

406
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,480
Well, I haven't seen Dangerous Liaisons, but I'm sure I would like Cruel Intentions better.

407
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,840
Just because I don't do period pieces well.

408
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,840
You don't.

409
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,760
That's true.

410
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,120
Unless it's on Pluto.

411
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:28,120
How would you know?

412
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:29,120
Shout out Pluto.

413
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,360
What period pieces have we watched together?

414
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:33,840
Because you never want to.

415
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,840
Okay.

416
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,840
What are we going to talk about?

417
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,840
The lyrics?

418
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:45,440
Well, I like the lyric where she says, and if he has chosen the point where she is under

419
00:23:45,440 --> 00:24:03,960
him, then leave her coyly placed crouched sucking him for it is I with her on knee.

420
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,840
That's erotic.

421
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:13,840
This is in the Trafficking movie when she verses with the guy.

422
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:20,200
Because it feels like the part where the character has an epiphany and takes a break from their

423
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:27,360
destructive behavior for some self-reflection and evaluation on life choices.

424
00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:31,120
And it also fits with the album's sexual theme.

425
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,120
Yeah.

426
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,320
Yeah.

427
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,080
We love it.

428
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,920
I don't know if there's anywhere that that's not considered disrespectful.

429
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,920
Okay.

430
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,920
Well, we got a critic.

431
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,720
We're going to talk about critics.

432
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:55,360
One critic said, this track is so sparse yet so powerful.

433
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:57,280
It's almost like Bjork's voice.

434
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,880
It's suspended in midair with only the faintest sound behind her.

435
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,480
What?

436
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,760
I wanted to bring something out and I forgot.

437
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,240
Well go get it.

438
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,480
Are you sure?

439
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,480
Yeah.

440
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,480
All right.

441
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,480
We're going to take a break.

442
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:30,240
That's really beautiful.

443
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,240
Thank you.

444
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,240
Thank you everyone.

445
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,240
We're back.

446
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,400
We're back.

447
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,400
All right.

448
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,320
This track is so sparse yet so powerful.

449
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:51,400
It's almost like Bjork's voice is suspended in midair with only the faintest of sounds

450
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,400
behind her.

451
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,560
There's a haunting beauty to it.

452
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,240
Something hypnotic that pulls you in leaving you wanting more.

453
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,600
I feel like Bjork leaves you wanting more.

454
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,880
Yeah, she does.

455
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,960
And she has a couple of remixes.

456
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,720
These are fan made remixes.

457
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:20,120
So one of them is the Nebula's Beyond remix.

458
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:26,200
Yeah.

459
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:41,800
And the other one is Dark Jedi.

460
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,920
It's actually nice.

461
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,920
You like that?

462
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,920
Yeah.

463
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,840
What's the IP address if they want to go to check that out?

464
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,120
The IP address?

465
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,960
You know, the website, the actual link.

466
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,200
Oh, I don't know.

467
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,200
We can share it.

468
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,200
We don't share links usually.

469
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,120
We just say the other one was the Nebula's remix and there's the Dark Jedi.

470
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,120
All right.

471
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,120
And they just search for it.

472
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:11,400
Well, you need to stay on top of these things.

473
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:17,920
I can tell you that Bjork mostly performed Harm of Will in 2001.

474
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,360
And she brought it back in 2015 for her Vulna Kura tour.

475
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:22,360
With the handpan.

476
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:37,120
I didn't care for that one too much.

477
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:42,320
And then she played it once more in 2021.

478
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:48,320
Harpas as Harva and Reykjavik.

479
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,560
It's like Harpa's like it's a woman that lives down the street.

480
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,200
Well, it belongs to Harpa.

481
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,400
And it was performed for her Oberstrasse shows.

482
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,800
All right.

483
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,840
That's a lovely send off.

484
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,880
Now let's talk about Unison.

485
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,880
Track 12.

486
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:24,240
I love it.

487
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,560
It's a good song.

488
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,880
It's yeah.

489
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,880
This is the longest song on the album.

490
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,880
How long is it?

491
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,880
In 45 seconds.

492
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Calm down.

493
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,040
Well, it's the most euphoric song on the album.

494
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,320
So how can I be calm?

495
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,720
True that.

496
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,000
All right.

497
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:05,440
So my first impression was that is this what pop music in heaven sounds like?

498
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,440
You know?

499
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:15,560
And so Bjork wrote Unison while working on Dancer in the Dark and she was struggling with the

500
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,120
collaborative process of putting her music in the hands of non-music types.

501
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,120
You know what that's like.

502
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,120
Don't I ever?

503
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,120
I've been through it all.

504
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,400
Well, I tried to remix a song of yours and you just like when I heard it, when you heard

505
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,360
it you're like.

506
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:40,840
Nothing you just like, oh, no, and then we never talked about it again.

507
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,200
I said, well, I like your clothes.

508
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,560
So you're wearing right now.

509
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,880
All right.

510
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,640
How does this fit in with the album's flow?

511
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:58,400
It makes me it makes the perfect happy ending for an already quite positive album.

512
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,320
It's quite happy ending.

513
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,320
It's quite sugary.

514
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,600
It makes my teeth hurt because it's so sugary.

515
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,880
Did Ariana Grande really?

516
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,880
She did.

517
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:19,120
OK.

518
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,960
She hurt my little Ariana Grande shirt.

519
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,800
I mean, she's kind of trying to cosplay her as her in that picture.

520
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,920
But yeah, I don't.

521
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,920
Whatever.

522
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:38,520
I mean, yeah, Bjork didn't invent this.

523
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Hold your hands together by your mouth.

524
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,280
Pray.

525
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,280
That's prayer.

526
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,280
She didn't invent that.

527
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,280
But she thinks she is.

528
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,320
Hating down on all these artists.

529
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,080
She's going to sue you for libel.

530
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,080
She'll sue me for life.

531
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,080
All right.

532
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,280
Tell me about the production.

533
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,880
Definitely.

534
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,400
This song's got everything.

535
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,040
It's got a harp by Zena Parkins.

536
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,040
She's back.

537
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,360
A choir by Guy Sigsoorth.

538
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,640
He's back.

539
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,440
And strings by Vince Mendoza.

540
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,240
The Triple Threat Team.

541
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Yes.

542
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:28,080
And then it's got all the programming by Matt Moves, Val Gietzigapsson, Matthew Herbert,

543
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,400
Damon Taylor, Guy Sigsoorth, and Bjork.

544
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,920
So it's just like a big family reunion, really.

545
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,280
The Fespertine family.

546
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,960
That's a family I'd like to be a part of.

547
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaking of Matt Moves.

548
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,200
Yeah.

549
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,280
Did I mention that when they performed Aurora with Bjork?

550
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,280
No.

551
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,280
You didn't.

552
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,280
Tell me.

553
00:31:51,280 --> 00:32:00,240
When they performed Aurora with Bjork, they would walk in a box filled with rock salt.

554
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,240
Yeah.

555
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,240
And speaking of Aurora.

556
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,240
Wait.

557
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,240
I don't get it.

558
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,960
A box full of rock salt?

559
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,440
I don't know.

560
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,320
You told me.

561
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,320
Oh.

562
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,520
I thought they were inside of a box full of rock salt.

563
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,520
No.

564
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,040
They're walking on it.

565
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Yes.

566
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,040
From the video.

567
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,040
A litter box.

568
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,040
Yeah.

569
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,040
They're making the crunchy sound.

570
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,040
Okay.

571
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Well, speaking of Aurora, they should have, she should have used the sounds that come

572
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,560
from Auroras in the song, in unison.

573
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Like the Aurora Borealis?

574
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Yeah.

575
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,560
Have you heard the sounds?

576
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,560
Yeah.

577
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,560
It's like glassy whistling.

578
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,560
Yeah.

579
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:54,040
Well, she missed out on that.

580
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,480
I don't know what to tell her.

581
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,160
Is that what you'd tell her if you met her in person?

582
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,160
Yeah.

583
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,680
I'd be like, listen, I have to tell you something.

584
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,160
Just rub her nose in it?

585
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,160
That she missed out?

586
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,960
She'd be like, oh, oh God, what am I doing?

587
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,960
What have I done with my life?

588
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,960
Okay.

589
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:25,080
This song, unison, though, that we're talking about, it includes a sample of Aerodeck by

590
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,200
Oval from the album Systemish.

591
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:37,720
And Oval is an electronic artist that makes music by scratching CDs and making them skip.

592
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:45,080
I like it.

593
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:55,080
I have this album and if it wasn't for her, I wouldn't have known what this album was.

594
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,240
So thank you for that.

595
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,240
Thank you.

596
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,240
Anyway.

597
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,240
What page are we on?

598
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,240
What section are we in?

599
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,240
Unison.

600
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,480
I know, but we're...

601
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,880
The production of Unison.

602
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,880
Got it.

603
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,320
Okay, I see it.

604
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:20,520
So I was saying that she played Oval in her DJ set on Live on the Breeze of Block on BBC

605
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,760
Radio in 1998.

606
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,800
See clap that mama.

607
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,800
Do you like it?

608
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,800
Yeah.

609
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,800
It's a good mix.

610
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,800
You should check it out.

611
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,800
Let's check it out now.

612
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:46,720
Okay.

613
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:48,800
Tell us about it.

614
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,120
She uses a...

615
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:58,880
She puts in a song with a Bollywood singer singing, I will always love you.

616
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,880
It's good.

617
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:05,480
It's got a lot of good music on there if you want to have a wide range.

618
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,440
She has a broad range of music.

619
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,440
She does.

620
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,400
You tell the kids.

621
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,920
All right.

622
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,760
Well, it also has a choral sample.

623
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,840
What's that sample that she uses with the choir in this song?

624
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,800
Where are we?

625
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,160
Tell me about the choir sample.

626
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,600
That's all I want to know about.

627
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,280
Oh, okay.

628
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,880
Why won't you tell me?

629
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,080
You want to know about the choral sample?

630
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,080
Yeah.

631
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,080
It's of VD Galallalallelujah.

632
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,080
All right.

633
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:57,080
Is that what you wanted to know?

634
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,080
Yeah.

635
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Well, it's comma and while they led steadfastly toward heaven by Patrick Gowers, Andrew Lucas,

636
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:17,160
St. Paul's Cathedral Choir, and John Gavin Scott, which she did not credit on the album's

637
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,520
booklet.

638
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:24,360
So maybe because that's a mouthful and she's going to fit it on the album.

639
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:30,680
She's like, that's too much to type.

640
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:42,920
Probably what happened.

641
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:48,720
It's also got ice sculptures, wine-os, germs.

642
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,880
Where are germs?

643
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,160
German Smurfs.

644
00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:01,600
The Teddy Rucks pin wearing mascara, an old lady wearing kid and play hair, and none other

645
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,600
than DJ Baby Bok Choi.

646
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,920
Sounds like our Tuesday night.

647
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,960
Yeah.

648
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,960
That's a lot.

649
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Yeah.

650
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,480
But it sounds like a party I'd want to be at.

651
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Me too.

652
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,960
So what does this song, Unison, mean to you?

653
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,160
I think it's about, well, related to the movie.

654
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,480
Yeah.

655
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,720
This is just where she's like, I give in.

656
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:31,920
I'm going to accept my life.

657
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,120
And then she realizes that that's okay.

658
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,680
That she's being...

659
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,680
She's been trafficked.

660
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,960
She was sold to someone.

661
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,960
She's stuck in that.

662
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,960
I don't want to talk about trafficking anymore.

663
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,640
And then she's like, okay.

664
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,360
Maybe who knows, but I'm falling for this guy.

665
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,320
I'm just going to make it work for the rest of my life.

666
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,160
Well, I can tell you what I think about Unison.

667
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:05,760
I think about personal growth through working with others and meeting someone halfway, no

668
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,440
matter how hard it is working with that person.

669
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,360
It's hard for you to meet people halfway.

670
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,360
Yeah.

671
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,760
Like finding the balance between keeping your integrity and willing to see someone else's

672
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,760
viewpoint.

673
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,760
Yeah.

674
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,400
But I'm saying it's hard for you to meet people halfway.

675
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,400
Yeah.

676
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,920
I don't care.

677
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:34,160
It's a joke said Unison that was inspired by having to compromise her creative vision

678
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,940
while working on the film Dancer in the Dark.

679
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:42,960
She said, I felt ready to be very collaborative, but I wrote that in the middle of the film

680
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:51,960
when I was tired of changing my tracks because some Danish person who is Lars von Trier thought

681
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,300
something.

682
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,000
I could see that she does not like to be told what to do.

683
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Yeah.

684
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,240
She doesn't like her vision is so strong authority.

685
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,920
No, I'm saying like her vision, you know, when somebody's vision isn't strong, it's

686
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,440
easy to sway them.

687
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,440
Yeah.

688
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,800
But hers is obviously like, she has a big ego steadfast.

689
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,840
I wasn't saying that.

690
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,440
I was saying she's very, she has a very strong will about her vision.

691
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,760
Yeah.

692
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,520
Or none of the stuff that she does would get made.

693
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,920
You can tell when you're bringing your baby to someone that doesn't respect it.

694
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,640
And when you're bringing it to people that actually do care about it.

695
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,800
When you bring your baby to be stranger, what is the situation?

696
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:49,520
You know, sometimes you need a babysitter and I don't know.

697
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:58,040
And sad times you see those nanocams or the babysitters like shaking the baby or like

698
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,520
slapping it too hard.

699
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:06,440
And I feel like that's what happened to Björk's music here.

700
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:19,760
Anyway, Björk has said that this conflict might go back to how the Danish colonized

701
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,720
Iceland and how her father was an electrician in a union.

702
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,560
So she's all about coming together and not fighting.

703
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,560
You crazy.

704
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,720
What are you talking about?

705
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,680
Anyway, what's it?

706
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,120
What do you think is a good lyric?

707
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,440
I like the lyric.

708
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,160
I thrive best hermit style with a beard and a pipe and a parrot on each side.

709
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:50,000
But now I can't do this without you.

710
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:58,840
It is just funny.

711
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,160
We forgot to.

712
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,520
We were watching a couple of reviews earlier and the guy that said this, that was like

713
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,320
a parrot on each side.

714
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,040
It was like, yeah, that's the lyric.

715
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,040
Yeah.

716
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,960
And then you thought she said with a beer and a pie, beer and a pie.

717
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,680
That would be my preference.

718
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Yeah.

719
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,200
No, and I think that's better, to be honest.

720
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,280
And yeah, so it just reminds me.

721
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,200
So you thrive hermit style.

722
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,200
Me?

723
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,200
Yeah.

724
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,080
For the most part.

725
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,520
I try not to.

726
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,720
It's not good to be a complete hermit.

727
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,480
Or you can't be because I'm always bugging you.

728
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,480
Yeah.

729
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,480
So.

730
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,480
Sorry.

731
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:50,280
It reminds me of people who are like hardcore and proud to be introverts.

732
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,280
And that's cool and all.

733
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,080
But at the end of the day, humans need social interaction.

734
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,080
Yeah.

735
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,080
It's just how we're programmed.

736
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,200
I don't know what to tell you.

737
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:09,240
And I say too much of one thing never looks, it's never good.

738
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:12,480
So if you're introvert, go outside once in a while.

739
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,880
And if you're extrovert, go home and turn the lights out.

740
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Good night.

741
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,200
I think we have a good balance of introversion and extroversion.

742
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,240
Yeah.

743
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:28,800
We go out pretty much every weekend.

744
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,800
Yeah.

745
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,800
All the time.

746
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,800
All the time.

747
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,800
We refuse to stay in here.

748
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,800
We stay in here all day.

749
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,640
Let me tell you people at home.

750
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,640
Who are we refusing to?

751
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,520
Is somebody telling us to stay in here?

752
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,520
We're like no.

753
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,760
We're not going to stay in here anymore.

754
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,360
Now who is this person telling us to stay in?

755
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,360
Our work.

756
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,360
Our jobs.

757
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,360
Oh I see.

758
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,360
I don't know.

759
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,680
The laziness.

760
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,920
Yeah they suck the energy out of you.

761
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,920
That's true.

762
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,920
By five o'clock.

763
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,440
They're like alright we've got enough.

764
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,240
And then you're just like this empty shell.

765
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:06,240
Yeah.

766
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:07,240
So sad.

767
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:08,240
So sad.

768
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:13,240
This isn't a Radiohead album.

769
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,240
This is Bjork we're talking about.

770
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:17,960
How'd I get here?

771
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,680
And so some critics, we're going to talk about critics.

772
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,680
Yeah.

773
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,120
They say it's the perfect finale.

774
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,480
Unison brings together the album's electronic and orchestral layers in uplifting almost cathartic

775
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,120
close.

776
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,480
It feels like Bjork is reaching out celebrating connection and harmony.

777
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,720
A gorgeous powerful moment to end on.

778
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:46,160
Yeah I never realized it's kind of a hippie song.

779
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,760
But that's cool.

780
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,760
It's like hippie without being hippie.

781
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,680
It's like elegant hippie.

782
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:01,480
That's kind of a good description of Bjork.

783
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:09,160
Thank you.

784
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,040
I saw the calculations happening in your brain as you came to that.

785
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:18,960
Can you tell me about the remixes though?

786
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,320
Well it's been covered by Hayley Williams from Paramore and Mary May.

787
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,400
That brings us to our, what's the next remix?

788
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,560
It's the Unison.

789
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,640
It's the Electric Dandelion remix.

790
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,000
And you can hear that on Soundcloud.

791
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Let's take a listen.

792
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,960
I can already picture how that sounds.

793
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,960
No you don't.

794
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,960
I have no idea.

795
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,960
Alright let's check it out then and see what I think.

796
00:44:49,960 --> 00:45:03,200
Was it what you thought I was going to say?

797
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,200
No.

798
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,200
Okay.

799
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,200
I said my piece.

800
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Cool.

801
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,200
Well what can you tell me about performances and mashups?

802
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,000
Oh Butt Midler did, good old Butt Midler, really like, they're loyal.

803
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Yeah.

804
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:34,480
Did a mashup of Unison with Madonna's Drowned World, substitute for love.

805
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,240
That's cool.

806
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:39,120
I listened to that at the gym.

807
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,520
Okay she needs some motivation.

808
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:50,000
Anyway Bureau performed this for her Vespertine tour, her Volta tour, and once for her Biophilia

809
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000
tour.

810
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Just once?

811
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,000
Yeah.

812
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,760
And when was the last time she performed it?

813
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:10,600
It was in 2021 for our orchestral shows in Reykjavik.

814
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,200
Those have been nice to see.

815
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,200
Yeah.

816
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,680
That was COVID though.

817
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,680
Yeah.

818
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,680
Yeah.

819
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:23,720
So it was just like exclusively Icelandic people or people that lived there.

820
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:29,520
Okay so this is the end of the song review.

821
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,520
Yeah.

822
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,520
But.

823
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,400
I told you it was going to be a short episode.

824
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,640
But wait.

825
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:42,360
So you know how when we first start an album we sort of talk about the whole album and

826
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,960
then we go into the first song?

827
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,000
But we never, I realized, do like a wrap up of the album.

828
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,000
No.

829
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,680
So let's do one now.

830
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,680
Okay.

831
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:58,480
So yeah, what do you think of the album now that we've covered it all?

832
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,040
You've probably learned new things about it.

833
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,040
Yeah.

834
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,040
Still holds up.

835
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,840
I don't know.

836
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,840
Tell you.

837
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:14,480
Look, now that you've, because you know you'll listen to music, but when we do this podcast

838
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:20,400
we really like dive into every song and we research it and we listen to it.

839
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:27,080
So now that you've re-experienced it as part of doing this podcast, like what's new?

840
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,880
What's new about it?

841
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,320
Or what fills your head about it?

842
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,680
You know you always hear new stories along the people you meet.

843
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:44,480
They've been to this, like that concert for her or they might have known her during that

844
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,480
time.

845
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:54,240
Like we went to the Midway and there's a guy there who had a story about meeting the guys,

846
00:47:54,240 --> 00:48:01,120
Matt Most, that produced some of the beats on the album and, or yeah, he got to meet

847
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,120
Björk.

848
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,960
You know what I'm saying?

849
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,200
What about you?

850
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:20,640
You said that you had your first kiss when you heard this album in San Francisco and

851
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,840
then now how does it hold up?

852
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,760
I mean it's still amazing.

853
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,400
I don't know.

854
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,880
How could you not love it?

855
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:32,880
Yeah.

856
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:42,000
I think this is a good time to talk about the retired guy that reviews.

857
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,600
I don't know.

858
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,360
He said he was 76 or 77.

859
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:58,680
And he watched the Unison, he watched your performance in Reykjavik, which was the last

860
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:07,520
performance of it and he was just like, Oh, I don't know what the hell I just watched.

861
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,720
Not as angry, but you're just like, what?

862
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:13,720
What the fuck?

863
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:18,320
It was so, and then, but then he started saying like, bless Jesus Christ.

864
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,200
You're just like, whoever watches this video.

865
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,720
Make sure you know the Lord.

866
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:26,720
Bye Jesus.

867
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:27,720
Yeah.

868
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:28,720
Okay.

869
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:34,720
So I want to play this thing that's like critic versus critic.

870
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:39,480
So we're going to hear two critics, different perspectives on the whole album, and then

871
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,280
we're going to talk about them.

872
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,280
All right.

873
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,280
Okay.

874
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,520
The first critic said, we're not for the fact that Bjork had already visited this train

875
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,440
so reliably on previous outings.

876
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:57,400
It could very well be her landmark achievement, but with the astounding homogenic behind her,

877
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,560
its melodies, timelessly memorable and its production similarly captivating.

878
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:08,640
Vesper teen stands only as a pleasant journey back through her usual another world.

879
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:15,440
So my summary is this person's basically saying like, it's nothing new, right?

880
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,440
Yeah.

881
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,360
Like it doesn't innovate in the same ways.

882
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,360
Yeah.

883
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,360
Okay.

884
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,360
Wait, hold on.

885
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,360
Okay.

886
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,480
So the next review says everything about this album is great, but the reason it gets you

887
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,280
a perfect score is because of the way it made me feel.

888
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,960
So many emotions bled through me while listening to this masterpiece.

889
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,720
I want to relisten over and over again, much like a good movie.

890
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:40,720
Okay.

891
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:45,720
So this person saying that they loved it.

892
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:50,320
They didn't care whether it sounded like the past album or it was derivative or whatever.

893
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,600
They just said, this album makes me feel amazing.

894
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,640
Yeah.

895
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:01,200
So one person's like, what makes it good is if it makes you feel.

896
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,000
And another person's like, what makes it good is if it sounds different.

897
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,360
So one's very technical and the other is very emotional.

898
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,000
Yeah, but sometimes sounds affect feels.

899
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,760
That's what you got to say about this?

900
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,080
Some guys are going to go with the feels one.

901
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,520
Wait, what do you want?

902
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,640
I was asking you to pick a side.

903
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:32,880
I was saying, it's interesting that some reviews can be like, people love it or hate it because

904
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,520
it makes them feel and other people are like, it doesn't feel like it was innovative enough.

905
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,600
They didn't even think about how did it actually make you feel?

906
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,000
Don't be so bougie about it.

907
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,000
Yeah.

908
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,280
So I don't know.

909
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,280
Okay.

910
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,280
What else about this album?

911
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:58,000
Like, how do you, what, when you think back on it now, what's, what do you feel?

912
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,320
Just listening to it on my CD player in my room all alone.

913
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:11,080
Do you know I had a mattress for a bed for a while?

914
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,360
Everybody has a mattress for a bed.

915
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,160
What are you sleeping like a father?

916
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,160
On the floor.

917
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,840
It was just like how an addict.

918
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,520
When you were a little kid?

919
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:32,560
No, when I was like 12 or something listening to this album.

920
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,360
That was like your aesthetic?

921
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,360
Yeah.

922
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,360
Sure.

923
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:45,560
I was just like, I'll take whatever I can get handed to me.

924
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,120
So as long as I can escape through this album.

925
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,120
You know.

926
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,120
It's getting dark.

927
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,120
I know.

928
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,120
We know it wasn't an abuse or anything.

929
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,040
I was just depressed.

930
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,040
Oh my.

931
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,040
You know?

932
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,720
I think we've said it all.

933
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:10,640
Yes, we said it all.

934
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,840
We've seen it all.

935
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,080
We did it all.

936
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,080
We heard it all.

937
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Smelt it all.

938
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,040
We watched it all.

939
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,040
We lived it all.

940
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,040
Yes.

941
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,040
So it's time to say goodbye.

942
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,040
Bye.

943
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,040
Go home.

944
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Bye.

945
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,040
Time to go Mimi's.

946
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,040
Take your husband, take your keys.

947
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,040
Goodbye.

948
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,040
Okay.

949
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,040
Wait.

950
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:39,040
This is the end of Vespertyne.

951
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,680
Oh, this is the end of Vespertyne.

952
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Thank you for the journey.

953
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,520
How do you feel about that?

954
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:54,040
Thank you for taking this joy ride with us through the ups and downs, the ins and outs,

955
00:53:54,040 --> 00:54:02,040
the snowy, icy, chilly hills, the foggy, cold moments.

956
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,040
Yeah.

957
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,040
Thank you.

958
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,040
Thank you.

959
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,040
Bye.

960
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:28,040
Bye.

