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Hello and welcome to the next podcast. Today it's going to be a bit different. I'm going

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to talk tiny little bits and pieces about MS related but actually today it's Halloween.

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Woooooo. Yeah I'm not the greatest impressionist I know. I know. I get it. You can all laugh.

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It's acceptable. Tell me I can't do impressions. That's fine. The ghosts can laugh at me when

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they're ready. Not a problem. Casper shhh. Not now. Even when you're trying to do sensible

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stuff. Old Casper never goes away does he? There you go. Such is life. Right so yeah

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today we're going to talk ghost hunting. I know that's a bit different. Many many

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years ago it's a hobby that I had. We had a team. We would go round to haunted locations.

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We were very very lucky with some of the locations actually that we did manage to investigate.

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I won't give full names for them but yeah I mean there was a castle. One of the castles

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I tell you what it was absolutely superb. I don't know if I'm allowed to give the

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name so I won't do. But it was absolutely fantastic. I mean in terms of kit we were

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very kitted out. I had a K2 meter which anyone that doesn't know it flashes lights when

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it's around electrical energy and apparently the ghosts are electrical energy. They can

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give off that. And yeah this K2 meter at the time wasn't used very much anywhere outside

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of the United States so I actually had to have it imported. Both me and Richard, my

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brother, we actually had one each imported and they were quite useful. I had my trifield

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meter which cost an arm and a leg back then. I'll be honest it was very very expensive

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but again very very helpful. We actually spent money on a proper night vision CCTV outfit

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which did cost a lot of money. There was quite a few bits and pieces I'll be honest with

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you that we had. And I'll be honest with you I've actually still got my kit. I haven't

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used it in a very long time I'll be totally fair. But yeah my kit is still floating about.

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I just haven't had a chance. We actually got invited a few times to go to private homes

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to try and help homeowners and whatever else with any kind of issues and whatever they

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was having. So yeah we did that a few times. But there was one place in particular, a castle,

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I won't name it. But this castle, we were there and we were investigating using all

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our expensive pieces of kit and we just decided let's try something a little different. We

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were getting good reactions off some of our equipment. But we actually got a tea light

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candle. We took this tea light candle and there was supposed to be a spirit in the area

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where we were and we lit the candle and we're talking to this spirit and we asked this spirit

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to light the lights on our K2 meters and set off tri-field meters. We actually had a motion

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sensor barrier which got set off which is very very impressive I'll be totally fair.

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But what we did with the candle, we said to the spirit can you extinguish that candle?

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Literally within a few seconds candle went out. We were like okay that's a bit strange.

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So we relit the candle, it sat there for a couple of minutes perfectly fine flickering

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away as the candle does. All of a sudden another member of the team says oh go on then extinguish

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that candle again. Instantly the candle goes out and as a team we're looking at each other

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and we're going alright this is actually quite interesting. So we did it a third time,

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we lit the candle, we actually moved the candle to a different area and it's still in the

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same room but we moved it to a different area and again asked for the candle to be extinguished.

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Give you two guesses what happened to that candle. Yep you're correct it went out. Very

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very impressive bit of evidence I'll be totally honest about that it was fantastic. I mean

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the room temperature was cold and all sorts and from time to time you'd be stood there

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and actually it would feel quite warm. All of a sudden you'd just get this tiny little

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cold breeze. Yeah it was quite interesting, it really was quite interesting. That particular

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castle there was quite a few bits and pieces that went on, a lot of it was temperature

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changes and the K2 meters and trifield meters going off. There's another one that we investigated

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which is a pub in Nottingham, a very old pub and we investigated it a couple of times and

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downstairs there's look a small cave system. Now we actually didn't realise what we'd

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done because we was helping out at the time, we was helping out an investigation that was

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going on and we'd left a toy down there which we used from time to time which when you move

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this toy it would light up but we left it sat in a particular place. We went upstairs

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for a bit of a break, everyone sat up there, there was no one downstairs, we had the CCTV

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system set up down there. So we goes back down after a break, toy's on the floor. Didn't

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think anything of it thought okay we'll leave that for the time being, it may well have

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just fallen. When it come to do evidence review a couple of days after we checked back, that

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toy, okay that little toy, we actually saw it lift up a couple of inches straight in

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the air and then it got, I'm not going to say thrown but it didn't fall as a toy would

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fall. It starts lighting up while it's in the air which it never used to do, it's normally

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when it hit the floor it would start lighting up or if you shook it. So again that was a

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really interesting piece of evidence and one that we was quite pleased with. There was

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a place in London that we investigated actually which the rumour had it was incredibly and

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this is a very famous place, I'll be honest again I don't think I can give the name so

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I won't do just in case. But it's a very famous building, really famous building and it was

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myself and Richard investigating it. Actually nothing happened, we investigated that building

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twice and it was nothing, literally quite as a mouse and allegedly it's one of the more

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haunted buildings in the area of London it is. Nothing, dead quiet, silent. It was a

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good night out, don't get me wrong we enjoyed ourselves but there wasn't a great deal going

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on. Again I mean there was one where a few of us went out and investigated a disused

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air force base which is now just a woodland. Very strange woods, very very strange woods.

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Now we're all very affray with animal noises and whatever else. There was all sorts of

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these screams and just about everything going on and in all truth we're sort of looking

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around at each other going that's not a fox. No matter what we did, where we went, looking

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around we couldn't find anybody. It was really strange but brilliant, really entertaining

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and it sort of opened our eyes a little bit to okay maybe there is a little bit more to

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it because there have been a lot of stories of this woodland and yeah as I say those screams

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were very interesting. Sent a shiver up your spine that's for sure. And again I won't

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discuss private dwellings too much but some of the private buildings we did, some bits

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and pieces going on and some hits on the electrical meters and whatever we had, very surprising.

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Really, really surprising. There's another pub that we'd investigated in Lincoln. Now

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it's probably one of the best EVPs I've ever heard. The electric voice phenomenon, a voice

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you're not going to hear with your ears at the time. It's one that imprints onto your

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device. We had no end, no end of voice recorders that we would use. EVPs something we always

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used to try and pick up and yeah we did pick up quite a few over the years but this one

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was fantastic. There was two of our team members. They were in the back area of the pub. Now

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they came out, they'd done all their calling out asking if anyone's there, all that sort

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of stuff. Now on reviewing they came out, we sat down, we had about five or ten minutes.

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On reviewing there was a voice when they were asking if anyone was there and that voice,

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very, very low raspy voice and I'll try and sort of get it as close as I can. I'm not

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going to be able to get it brilliantly but a voice it said, you are not one of us. As

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I say, not great impressionist but that's what that voice said on that EVP and I'll

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be honest I don't know if ever from any other investigations anywhere else I've ever heard

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an EVP quite so telling and quite so chilling. It really did send a chill up your spine when

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you listen to it but I'll be honest with you, it was very interesting. We actually

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investigated that pub again a few weeks after and I made the suggestion that we play that

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EVP while we're investigating and just see what happens and again we've got our video

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recorders playing, we've got a CCTV system recording, all that sort of stuff. So we played

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that noise and the feeling in that pub was ridiculous. Genuinely it went from feeling

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just like a normal pub to almost like a freezer. It went stone cold, it went deathly quiet,

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it was strange yeah I must admit from our point of view we were sort of thinking have

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we woken someone up here because all the way through the remainder of that investigation

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it was as if he was being watched but nothing else happened. Literally nothing else happened,

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it was all feeling and again it could be the sort of thing where we were sort of putting

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that feeling into our own head but at the time it was a little bit freaky I'll be honest

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but yeah it was brilliant. I'll say those days was involved in the paranormal side of

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it for a very long time. Again there was an investigation where there was allegedly a

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very nasty spirit and me being me I'll try and get some information see if I can get

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some kind of reaction from this spirit so I was being a bit mean I'll be honest I was

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saying to it you know if you think you can come and show us what you can do and at the

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time I was on my own at the back end of the building the others were down the far end

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they could see me and they all started calling up saying it's looking really dark around

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you and I'm like it feels a bit weird I'll be fair and all of a sudden I felt this burning

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feeling at the bottom of my stomach actually on my skin I thought that's a bit strange

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so I carried on and all of a sudden one of the others went we need to get you out of

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there so I come walking down the bottom and I'm thinking that's a bit sore you know so

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I lifted me top up and there was a scratch three fingernail scratch on my stomach very

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weird very very weird very sore until I took one step out of the building took one step

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out scratch disappeared odd very Halloweeny absolutely but yes these are stories they

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are experiences I've had I just thought I'd share these seeing as it's Halloween we'll

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honour the day and yeah in terms of the MS side of things same as nothing different from

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the last podcast I'll be honest with you I'm plodding along and doing the best I can well

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thank you all for listening it is a bit of a different one today as I say I just wanted

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to honour the fact that it's Halloween you all have an awesome Halloween and I will talk

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to you all again soon bye bye.