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Hey, I'm Matt Brownell.

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And I'm Van Owens.

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And I'm Tim Adams.

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Welcome to Climbing the Mountain, where we dive into the scriptures and discuss themes,

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connections, and real life application.

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We're kicking off a series here where we're going to examine the Sermon on the Mount and

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discuss implications for this teaching for Christians today.

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All right, we are back discussing the Lord's Prayer.

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And last time, as you might expect, we got through about two sentences or two phrases.

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We talked about our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.

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And we sat a lot on this idea of calling God.

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Another of there's an intimacy here that we can't ignore that is a beautiful gift.

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But there's also this reverence.

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This is a Father in the heavens.

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This is a Father who we're saying your name, your very being is holy and hallowed and set

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apart.

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And we talked a lot about different ways of thinking about that.

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But there's this great mystery and beauty and tension in that phrase.

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And it can be a great reminder as we start our prayers that this is who we're talking

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to.

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And there's so much more to say about the Lord's Prayer.

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So I expect we'll be here for a while.

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But let's dive in again.

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Ryan, do you want to pray or to read?

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However you want to call it?

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The Lord's Prayer in Matthew 6.

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So in Matthew 6.9, Jesus says, Pray then like this.

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Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth

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as it is in heaven.

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Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our debts as we also forgive in our debtors.

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And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.

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For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

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But if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

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Thanks.

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Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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Makes for two dense requests.

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First, it's important to note that Jesus is focused still on God in this prayer.

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Three out of the six requests are directly about God.

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And Jesus puts those requests first.

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How many of us start our prayers anxious and just start blurting out all our needs before

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we take time to remember the God of the universe to whom we speak, of whom nothing is too small

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and nothing is too difficult.

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How do you relate to that dynamic and how do you find that Jesus' focus and prayer

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changes your heart and mind?

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I think it's really important.

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I think it's very easy, particularly when there's something really heavy pressing on

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me, I'm concerned about something, whatever it is, some, some sin of my own or some situation

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that I'm going to pray about when and I'm, I'm admit to my shame that a lot of times

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I do start my prayers this way.

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Oh, heavenly Father, I come to you asking you to help me with this situation.

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And I start blurting out about the situation.

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That can sometimes for me produce more anxiety.

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It makes me feel worse.

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Somehow at the end of that prayer, I, I know that if I get to the end of the prayer and

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I feel worse than I felt when I started it, or I feel the same that something didn't happen.

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And I think that oftentimes what doesn't happen is this pausing to acknowledge what's going

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on here and with whom I am communicating and the wonder of being able to communicate with

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him.

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And if I don't pause and do that first, the, the, the ensuing stuff sometimes doesn't feel

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like prayer to me.

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It'll, it'll, and it can end up for me just trailing off into stream of consciousness

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anxiety.

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And that's my natural.

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Relate to that.

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It's that's, that's how, that's how my mind works.

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And if I trail off into just being what's in my mind, then somewhere along the way I

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lost track, it's not praying anymore.

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And I think that this, the, the focusing in on God helps to avoid that.

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Totally.

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So there's a, a line in John 12 where Jesus is, he's talking about to go to the cross and

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he says, now my soul is troubled in which I say, Father, save me from this hour.

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No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour.

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Father glorify your name.

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And Jesus demonstrates this very often, his whole life that he, he exists to glorify God.

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He exists to, to be in relationship with him, to bring him, bring him praise.

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And that, that's the posture he brings into his prayer life.

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You know, it's not asking, you know, God's not like a genie that exists for his, his

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benefit, but Jesus is modeling for us that, you know, we exist to worship God and that

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God's purposes and desires are our purposes and desires.

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So when we pray like your kingdom come, you will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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That's what it, it does for me.

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Just like you were saying then, you know, and instead of coming to God and my anxiety

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or with my own desires and requests, you're like, well, those are all, those are still

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And, you know, I still am feeling those things in this moment, but I'm re-centering on what

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my ultimate purpose is, which is to be in submission to God and who he is.

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There's, it's a, yes, it's faith building instead of faith sapping.

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When we're focused on ourselves, our own, Jesus isn't saying my will, he's saying your

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will be done.

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And I don't know how many times I've started a prayer with my kingdom, you know, like,

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yeah, you know, what's interesting about this prayer doesn't even say I or my once,

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right?

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Like that.

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That's so rough, right?

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I mean, it literally doesn't say I and all my prayers are right, you know, very self-focused.

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And so just to like, you guys know, I love to go back to the Old Testament, but when

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I think about this prayer, if you break it down, like it's simplified as much as you

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possibly can into like part one, part two, it starts with God and then it's about us.

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That's the Shema.

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Like the most sacred prayer in Judaism is the Shema, hero Israel, Lord our God, the

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Lord is one.

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You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with

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all your might.

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And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart, you know, like that, that

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first thing and then love God, love God first and love other second.

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You know?

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You start with God and then through that you flows the love for everyone else.

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When I get to this part, if I'm ever praying this prayer and I'm like just blowing through,

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this stops me right away, dead in my tracks.

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Whoa, whoa, stop now.

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I got to get my heart right here.

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It is difficult.

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What does Jesus mean by your kingdom come?

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This is something that he prays for here.

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What do you think that means?

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I think it gets right into the gospel message.

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I mean, how many times did Jesus say the word kingdom of heaven or kingdom of God, depending

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on which gospel account you're reading?

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I mean, that is like central to the gospel message and the idea of the good news, you

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on Galeon and Greek.

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I mean, that is like a proclamation of a new king.

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I mean, that's that's central point of the kingship of Jesus as taking dominion over

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the world and taking it from the powers and principalities is like when I learn more about

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the gospel message and the good news, I just continually become more convinced that it's

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about kingship of Jesus and like the idea of Jesus's Lord, our good confession.

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I mean, Jesus is the king and he's bringing a new kingdom now and eventually bringing

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the kingdom here back to earth.

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Creating the heavens and the earth and the new garden as our final resting place after

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the whole thing is over.

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And that's exactly.

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I love that.

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It's so comforting and like it's easy to get distracted when you're in the moment thinking

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about the kingdom, but with all the mess of the world right now.

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But like it's almost like a practice round of learning how to operate now and the king

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kingdom life.

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So our final final place.

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So it's like he's praying for God's kingdom to come in the sense that he wants the kingdom

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to spread over the face of the earth and maybe even hasten the day when he'll return and.

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I mean, he's taking it back, man.

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Like a new kings in town.

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Like it's time to win it with love rather than like the domination of all the empires.

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I mean, it's kind of the same idea, but you're just flipping it on its head and the method

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of actually bringing that kingdom to the earth is way different than people expect.

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Jesus had a mission when he came and then he has us join him in that mission when he

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leaves, right?

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Now the great commission now go out and do this, you know, just as the father sent me,

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I'm sending you.

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This is one of the things we should be praying about all the time.

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I mean, we're taking it back and like the expectations for the Messiah to be this like this ruler

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that was just going to overthrow Rome and right was just going to come and, you know,

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bring war basically and his war is through love and self sacrifice.

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It's just flipped upside down.

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I love that.

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I think it's like really succinct summary of like what Jesus is talking about.

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And one of the things I think is threading through a couple of these verses that we've

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been mentioning, you know, we're praying for God's name to be holy.

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And in the back of our minds, we should be remembering, you know, the phrase, be holy

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because I am holy, right?

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And we're praying your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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And there's, we remember that, you know, Jesus says like the kingdom of God is like

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within us or among us that there's a very real sense in which the world will be more

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under the control of God is through us submitting ourselves to his will.

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And so when I pray this prayer, many of these reminders about, you know, I'm praying to

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God for his glory and his will, it's also like a, you know, that's not necessarily something

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that's just like really far out there in the future or somewhere on a different continent.

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That's like right here in my day, in my life, you know, I'm praying for the things that

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I don't have control over, but I'm also praying to submit my control to that will.

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That's a good, that, I mean, that's actually a question I want to ask about and pull on

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that thread of will that you're describing here.

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Because I think God, God has an overall will that can't be broken.

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We see in Job at the end of that, he's like, no, no plan of yours can be thwarted.

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And at the beginning we know that Satan couldn't just go torment him.

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He had to ask God for permission.

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And it's kind of same idea with Peter, right?

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When Jesus tells him, Satan has asked to sift you like wheat, God is in ultimate control.

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So he has this ultimate will, right, that can't be broken, but then Jesus is praying

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about God's will here and that it would be done, right?

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So he's got this ultimate will that will be done, but then what do you think he means

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by this?

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I think you're getting at this, right?

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Like the will that he makes commands, right?

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And we can, we have free will so we can choose to ignore him.

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But I think there's a wonderful qualifier here.

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It says on earth as it is in heaven.

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So what does that tell us about this?

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Well, I think that when you think about God's will in heaven, God's will is done perfectly

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in heaven.

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There is no competing will there.

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Yeah, there's no influence of Satan in God's case.

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There's no Satan and there's no us because we all have our own individual wills.

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And I think that when he says, you will be done on earth as it is in heaven, these statements

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to me are things that they're true about God and I should think about them as I enter into

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prayer.

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So there's that.

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There's also that there's something in these statements that I need to implement that I

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need to realize when I say your kingdom come.

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What I need to also say to myself is I want God's kingdom here now.

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I want God's kingship in my life.

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So I'm acknowledging by saying that statement, God is my king.

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And with all the implications of what a king is, his will is what I do.

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Because he is the king.

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And with all the implications about the kind of king that God is, a king that was willing

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to die for me.

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And it's all there's so many layers to it that you can spend a lot of time just praying

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this and thinking about and what happens to me when I get in this place.

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And I so often do not.

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But when I get in this place, the things that I'm anxious about, some of them just melt

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because they're not that big a deal when I think about the fact of God as my king, of

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his will being sovereign in my life and of there being no real choice.

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I need to do his will.

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It reminds me of the Great Commission again where you've got this piece where it's evangelism,

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you're going out and you're baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

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But then he's also saying teach them to obey.

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So there's like these two where you're spreading the good news and people are coming into the

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family and they're a bank, but then you're teaching them to obey.

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And it's that turning over of your will to his will as your king.

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The other thing I think though is on earth as it is in heaven makes me think of the angels

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and like joyous assembly proclaiming the good news to shepherds and how they obey him.

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Where they're in a place where there is no sin and they're full of joy to like, this

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is the most important.

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Yes, we're we get to do that.

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I feel like I need to have that heart a lot more.

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I think we'll get into this more like just with the next few sentences, but the idea

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of like testing and temptation, like God isn't tempted in heaven.

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Like the heavenly hosts aren't being tempted by Satan up there.

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Like they are in a different situation in the heavenly realm than we are here on earth.

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And like I think the on earth part matters a lot because we just like it's a reality.

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I mean, we have to deal with the physical and like the flesh is weak.

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We have different, we have actual real temptation in this world and the physical has to do with

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Well, speaking of this, the physical, I think that's a good segue into verse 11.

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After praying for God's will to be done, he shifts to praying for our needs.

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We're human.

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We have practical needs.

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Can we focus a little, I guess, on what Jesus is and is not praying though when he prays,

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give us this day our daily bread?

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How does this language influence our view of what our quote unquote needs are, especially

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with respect to our current society of where we are in the United States, convenience,

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abundance.

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Although, I guess during COVID we got to taste a little bit of, oh, this didn't come when

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I wanted it.

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Like the very next day, but that aside, what would someone in Jesus's day think when they

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heard daily bread?

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Well, you can go to the next chunk of Matthew 6 because he's talking about not worrying

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and that God's going to take care of you.

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The things he assumes people are worrying about are, am I going to have enough to eat?

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Am I going to have clothes on my back?

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That kind of tells you a lot about the standard.

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I mean, especially the clothing for me.

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I mean, clothing is just so, they're so cheap.

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Maybe we just throw away clothes.

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So if you pretty much always get some sort of clothing here, like even if you only have

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a couple bucks, but that's the level of simplicity that Jesus is saying God's going to take care

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of you.

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He's going to provide you what you need, but those needs are very different from our

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wants.

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I think when I read this, and because it's such a familiar passage, it's one you can

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read over and not really read.

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When I read, give us this day, our daily bread.

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What I read when I'm reading over it is, give me bread.

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Meaning take care of me.

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Give me what I want.

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Give me what I think I need.

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Give me, I need security.

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I need to know that I'm going to be okay when I retire.

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I need to know that I'm going to get this house.

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I need to know that this is going to happen.

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Can you just make that happen for me now?

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That's what I read when I read over it.

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But when I actually look at it, it's very emphatic.

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Today, give us what we need today.

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When you think about it, that's really all that we've got.

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I don't know if I'm going to be here tomorrow.

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I don't know if I'm going to live long enough to retire, but I'm here right now and I have

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certain things that God can give me right now that I need to make it right now.

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That's what I'm asking God for.

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I'm not asking him for security or wealth or future prosperity or a sense that everything's

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going to be okay in the next week, month, year, decade.

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I'm saying God sustain me right now, right here where I am, which is a very simple prayer,

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but also a deeply faithful thing to say.

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We're not praying for bigger barns, right?

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Right.

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We're praying for today.

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Give me what I need today.

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I think we break it down.

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The way I view this little section here is, I think we have the modern view, which is

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like daily needs because bread isn't something that we're obsessed about right now.

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And then we have the ancient Jewish view of it that we have at the time Jesus is saying

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this prayer.

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And then I think the best way to explain this is through God providing manna in the wilderness.

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I think he's getting at it.

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That was what I was thinking of too.

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I go back to Matthew 4 when Jesus is being tempted by Satan and the wilderness, again,

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wilderness and 40 days and nights theme there.

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And the tempter approached and said to him, if you are the son of God, order that these

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stones become bread.

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But he answered and said, it is written man will not live on bread alone, but on every

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word that comes out of the mouth of God.

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Harkening back to Deuteronomy and that phrase, I mean, he's quoting it.

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And in that section, it's talking about how Israel was provided by manna.

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They had to live off the manna.

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There was no, oh, well, do I want to go to Panera or can I go to Chipotle?

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What do I want today?

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Do I want pizza?

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Am I going to get groceries?

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They had to eat manna so much so that they got upset about it.

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And they couldn't store it.

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They were totally reliant.

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It was only good for that day.

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It was only good for that day.

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They were completely reliant on God for all their sustenance, for their livelihood.

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And I think the heart of that is what we're supposed to have, but it's just so hard to

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have that now.

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I was thinking of that too.

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In chapter four, he's talking about he's, man does not live on bread alone.

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In John six, he calls himself the bread of life.

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And that our reliance, so there's an aspect to this that, yes, there's a spiritual food

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that we need that only Jesus can give us and we can pray for that.

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We can also pray for our, I do think there's an aspect to this where we pray for our physical

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needs too, because we're going to be able to glorify God very much if we're starving.

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And God does want to provide for us to meet our basic needs, I think.

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I mean, but I don't think that a lot of, I love the manna.

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I just think it's perfect.

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I wasn't really thinking about it when I thought about the Lord's prayer originally,

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but the more I dove in, the more I'm like, wow, this is like, it's manna.

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That's our heart.

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The heart is the desperation for the food of God in spirit and in physical needs.

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Without that, it's really easy to get off track.

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And when Jesus compares himself to that manna, so it all kind of comes full circle.

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Right.

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And I think it's weird for maybe listeners today who their bread has a lot of preservatives

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in it, you know, like it could just sit out there for a while.

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I remember buying some really fresh, organic, just big bread and I was like, ooh, this is

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the best bread I've ever had.

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And I left it out and then the next day I'm like, oh, this is the worst bread.

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I can't even look at it.

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I do think it's important, like we kind of jumped over this with the first line.

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But he says, give us our daily bread, right?

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Us.

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And our Father in heaven.

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And so you said, or I realized there's no eyes, but there are hours and there's a lot

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of hours and that helps a lot to regulate the selfishness and to remember my brother

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who maybe I am being provided for here in this moment, but someone else is not.

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And so if I'm praying this, right, then I am called to also be a vessel to help, you

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know, meet that need.

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So that feels very important as we're reading through this to remember how communal this

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prayer is.

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This is community.

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I love that.

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Yes.

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But I've just paused as I'm praying this prayer and thought, give us this day.

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Oh, am I, I'm praying for all of my brothers and sisters right now.

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And oh, let me think about what's going on in their lives and pray for them, you know,

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like, or, oh, what could I do to help them?

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Maybe I'm being called to do that, right?

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That's a great, great point.

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Oh my gosh, I can't believe it's we've, okay, we made it through one more piece.

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All right, we're going to have to come back to this.

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It just shows you how loaded this, this prayer is.

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I mean, it's like, we talk about the grace of all time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is awesome.

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To be continued.

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To be continued.

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Thanks.

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That is such a good point too.

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Yeah, it really is.

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Like you're praying for other people as you're praying it, but you might not have even gone

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in thinking that.

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Yeah.

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And you're like, oh, crap, I should really think about when I am reciting this.

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Sometimes I just say father in heaven and then I'm like, oh, snap.

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Yeah, that's not what he says.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Yeah, it is like, you're like, it makes me think I'm like, oh yeah, I should be praying

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about people and like, mm hmm.

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Like other countries or people that are really struggling, not just like my neighbors or

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the people I know in real life.

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It's like, wow.

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It sort of addresses that age old thing, do I act or do I pray?

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This prayer is like, yes.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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As you pray it, you're realizing how you need to act.

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Isn't it wonderful how it kind of just moves your heart?

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Mm hmm.

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Jesus is genius.

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All right.

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I mean, he boils it down, like to get that much meaning out of just such a short prayer

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is like, wow.

