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Hey, I'm Matt Brownell.

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And I'm Van Owens.

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And I'm Tim Adams.

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Welcome to Climbing the Mountain, where we dive into the scriptures and discuss themes,

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connections, and real life application.

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We're kicking off a series here where we're going to examine the Sermon on the Mount and

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discuss implications for this teaching for Christians today.

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We're back!

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Part two!

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Tim is going to take it away and give us a summary of where we were just last time.

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Great.

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Yeah, so we covered a lot last time.

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It was a great discussion.

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My key takeaways were we were thinking about what is the Sermon on the Mount?

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Is this a new law that's given to us?

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Is it an amendment to the old law?

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And we didn't actually land on a particular thing in our last conversation.

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But we did have some takeaways.

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And one was whatever we might call this, the Sermon on the Mount is teaching given to us

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by our instructor, the one instructor, the Messiah.

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He's speaking with authority to his disciples.

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And so, however we approach this, we need to approach it extremely seriously.

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This is important teaching for our lives.

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That was one big takeaway.

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But we also talked about in the New Covenant that Jesus instituted in Luke 22 and it's

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talked about in Hebrews, we don't just have new information being given to us.

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Not just this crazy high standard that Jesus is giving, which is even higher than the old

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law, the Mosaic law.

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We actually have the Holy Spirit helping us and guiding us and equipping us to when we

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come to the Sermon on the Mount.

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And so that gives me hope as I'm reading these words and as they seem weighty and challenging.

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I'm not just doing this on my own under my own power.

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I'm doing this as a part of the new creation.

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There is something supernatural happening here.

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We're chimeras, right?

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We're not just the sinful nature anymore.

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We've got that spiritual nature that's supernatural inside of us doing its thing.

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And it reminded me of Romans 12 where Paul says, don't be conformed to this world.

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The world is pushing us into, is trying to put it, push us into its mold everywhere around

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you, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind that by testing you made discern

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what is the will of God, what is the good and acceptable and perfect will.

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And that testing you made discern, it actually has a meaning of that you may approve.

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It's almost like the Holy Spirit is working on us in the process of sanctification so

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that we start to desire the things that God desires.

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And it's that kind of work on our hearts and minds.

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As we struggle with what Jesus is teaching here, as we struggle with it and not just

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set it aside if we hold on to it.

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So I want to return now to this notion of righteousness because last time we kind of

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talked a little bit about how the Pharisees, you know, Jesus uses them as an example of

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our righteousness needs to surpass theirs.

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What does he mean by that?

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And I think in poor, and then he gives a few examples of what he means, you know, not just

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don't go to the letter of the law of murder, you want to get to the heart of it, hate,

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and weed that out of your heart.

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But I think in this context, I'd like to focus a little bit about on righteousness and what

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does that mean?

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And is there something, because I think this ties in with the rest of the sermon, is there

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some kind of structure that we can look at with the Beatitudes that we'll, to start at

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least if we try to answer what does Jesus mean by righteousness?

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And I want to start us off here in just noting the structure of the Beatitudes.

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It starts off with blessed or the poor in spirit for theirs as the kingdom of heaven.

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And then at the end, it's blessed are the persecuted for righteousness sake for theirs

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as the kingdom of heaven.

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So he's saying, theirs is the kingdom of heaven, poor in spirit and persecuted for righteousness.

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And then in between, he has all these blessed are, you know, those who mourn for that, they'll

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be comforted, blessed are they will be.

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So it's a, there's is, and then there's a future.

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So there's a present and future to all of this.

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And he said, but after the first four, at the fourth one of each, he talks about righteousness,

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blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied.

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Everything before that is, you could say the blessedness of emptiness.

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Like, you are empty.

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And so what do you want?

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You hunger and thirst for righteousness.

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You see your need and you hunger and thirst for righteousness.

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Well, what is that?

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And then he talks about blessed are the merciful.

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It seems like you've now filled up on something and you can provide mercy and you filled up

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on something and you're, you're pure in heart and you can, you, you see God and you're a

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peacemaker.

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These are, I would put before us, maybe some of the qualities that Jesus is looking for

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that we could test maybe in the rest of the sermon.

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Does he mean that with righteousness?

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If you're merciful, if you're pure, if you're a peacemaker.

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And when we look at these examples later, you know, it says, you know, about not being

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even angry.

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That's being a peacemaker, not lusting.

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That you know, yeah, don't commit adultery, but don't even lust.

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That seems like purity right there, divorce, keeping your own.

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So all of these seem retaliation, you know, all of these things seem like, you know, loving

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your enemies, examples of, of purity, mercy and peacemaking to me.

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That's really interesting.

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I've never made that explicit connection between being merciful, pure in heart and a

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peacemaker with what you're seeing in the rest of the sermon.

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But I mean, you, you were focused on Matthew five.

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If you think about Matthew six, Matthew six is the first half of it is all about religious

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observances and how to do them with a pure heart and it's all about not being seen by

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people, but being seen by God.

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And the promise for the pure in heart is that they will see God, which that's pretty cool.

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That's cool.

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I haven't, I hadn't thought about that until, until now.

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And I'm glad that you brought us back to when, when you're talking about righteousness

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to the Beatitudes, because it is easy to, when you're thinking about the Surreal amount,

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to focus on the explicit teachings that relate to our behavior, whether that's about treating

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people kindly and not in anger, or whether that's about not worrying about money.

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But Jesus starts with the Beatitudes for a reason and I've definitely heard, I've

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heard it said that this is the foundation of the Surreal amount.

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And I wholeheartedly agree with that because these qualities are all over the place.

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If you go, if you scroll, if you keep going, I'm scrolling on my phone here.

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If you're flipping your pages, he too, down to the end of chapter six, I think in verse

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33, seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness.

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So again, you know, I think also related to this is seeking after and struggling with

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God and trying to be like him.

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Because if I go back to the end of the Beatitudes, I think there's eight, right?

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What are you, when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you

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falsely on my account?

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That part, I think supports verse 10.

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Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake.

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So the righteousness there, I think there's a parallelism there, I see with, you know,

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you're being persecuted in both cases.

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One is for righteousness and the other is on account of Jesus.

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And so I think there's also a dimension to this where the righteousness that, you know,

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the key is really with Jesus to be found in him and not looking to ourselves, our own

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resources, but to God, I think is part of also the, what I see in the Beatitudes, but

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that even in the prayer, I think that's another thing that I've been thinking about.

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I think, Matt, what you were saying when you were sort of laying out that the first part

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of the Beatitudes is sort of that emptying.

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And then the second part is what you, what you actually do.

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I think that a big part of what's going on here, and this is something that I personally

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struggle with is the performative aspects of the way that I live my religious life.

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And a lot of what Jesus corrects throughout the sermon is, you know, you've heard it said

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and he talks about some performance.

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You've heard it said, don't kill that.

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Well, that's, I mean, it's sort of an anti performance, but you don't kill anybody.

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So that means don't kill people.

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But then he talks about the, the inward aspect of I'm telling you, don't even hate them

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and how the two validate each other.

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You cannot, you can't have the performative aspects of your religion.

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Don't mean anything if they're just a performance, just like the inward parts, the parts that

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you're being filled up with don't mean anything if you don't then act on them.

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And I think what Jesus is talking about here, he's, he's really in a way giving us a true

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definition of righteousness, of what it should be, because what the Pharisees and the teachers

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of the law called righteousness had become for many of them just a performance, just

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how they looked to the people outside of them.

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Then the emphasis became, how do I look?

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How do I look?

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Do I look righteous?

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Instead of am I righteous?

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Am I being righteous?

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Can I, can I ask a question and this is, this is a tangent, but it's, it's directly related

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to righteousness.

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And I think it's really important as we're talking about the sermon on the mount.

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So merciful, pure and heart peacemakers, you know, if we accept, which I think is very

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valid that those are components of being righteous.

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Jesus says, blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness.

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And then he kind of leans in on that and says, let me remind you again, like you said, Matt,

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that you actually are going to be blessed when you're persecuted.

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Why are we getting persecuted for righteousness?

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Why are we getting persecuted for doing these great things?

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Isn't this what the world wants a bunch of people to be merciful?

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Yeah, that's a valid question.

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Why wouldn't anyone love mercy and peacemaking?

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But Jesus says, no, that's not what's going to happen when you try to do those kind of

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things.

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And I think part of it is that your light shines on darkness and people don't like to

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be revealed.

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They don't like to have that light shine on them.

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And maybe they don't like, let's say you're at work and the boss says, you guys can have

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a half hour break, right?

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And then everyone else wants to take an hour, but you go back to work after half an hour

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and everyone suddenly hates you because you're making them all look bad.

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And yes, the world wants mercy, but what Jesus is saying is, but the world doesn't understand

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what mercy really is.

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And what mercy really is, the world doesn't want.

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That if the person makes you walk with them a mile to carry their burden, that's not mercy.

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It just looks like mercy.

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What's mercy is to go two miles.

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What's mercy is to say, no, I'll carry it all the way home for you.

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And the world thinks that is stupid and crazy and overboard.

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And now you've bridged from being kind to being abused and your rights violated.

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And I think that part of what Jesus is saying here is that the world likes the word, the

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concept of mercy in general, but the world doesn't understand what mercy really is.

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The world doesn't understand what purity really is.

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You know, Jesus is a perfect example of perfect and crucified.

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And I just think that that's helpful for me because when I'm thinking about these words

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like righteousness, it can be a very spiritual word.

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It can feel like it's not so much connected to my day-to-day life.

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But then I think when I read the Sermon on the Mount, there can be parts of it that are

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like that where it feels like either it's not connected to me or I feel a certain sort

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of repulsion to it.

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Like you were saying, Van.

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Like I don't think I want that.

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And that's too much righteousness.

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That's too much righteousness.

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Exactly.

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And so if the Sermon on the Mount is a picture of what righteousness looks like, which I

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think is a good example, our description of what it is, then I think as we're approaching

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it, as we're preparing to dig into it, we're going to have times where we are doing some

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of that recoiling ourselves, where we're tempted to persecute the righteousness ourselves.

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And I think we just need to be aware of that, that Jesus is the one defining righteousness

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here.

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It's not us defining righteousness.

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And that needs to change our posture.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I like that setup.

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That's pretty good to remember.

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Maybe we can also pivot to the seriousness, because I think it relates, of how Jesus kind

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of wraps up his sermon with this.

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The first time I read this, I was a religious guy.

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I was a pastor's kid.

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And boy, did it get me stone cold sober.

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In Matthew 7, this is verse 21, not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, we'll enter the

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kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my father who is in heaven.

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On that day, many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and cast

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out demons in your name and do many mighty works in your name?

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And then I will declare them, I never knew you.

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Depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.

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And this word, lawbreakers or lawlessness, anemia in Greek, those who work iniquity,

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it describes the condition of being without law, either because you're either ignorant

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of it or you violate it.

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It can also mean contempt and violation of law, basically wickedness.

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So I think Jesus is saying, we really need to take this pretty seriously.

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He's ratcheted up the stakes like this pretty hard, pretty high, because you're shut out

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of the kingdom of God.

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He's saying he doesn't know you.

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And I think this relates back to what we were seeing in the Beatitudes about never really

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being satisfied unless you hunger and thirst after God's righteousness.

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It's sort of a summary, I think, at the end of Matthew 5 where in verse 48 he says, be

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perfect as your heavenly father is perfect.

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in the world, we're just doing religion.

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It's not relationship.

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I think the, it makes me feel so grateful for the Holy Spirit.

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Because yeah, Matthew, I mean, it's not like he just gives one hard teaching at the end

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of Matthew 7.

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He has like four back to back, right?

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Enter through the narrow gate.

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It's going to be hard.

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Watch out for people who teach you things that, you know, sound good, but aren't, don't bear

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fruit.

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And make sure to do my will.

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And you could even think you're doing it, right?

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You could be doing miracles in my name, but not be doing my will.

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And by the way, hear what I say and put into practice.

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It's like so, it's so challenging.

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But he does say at the very beginning, like blessed are the poor in spirit.

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And so it's like recognizing that we're, we're struggling is, and it's going to be really

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hard.

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He wants us to do that.

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Instead of it being something we have to like pretend will never happen.

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Because we're going to do everything perfect.

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I think that's, that's exactly what this sermon does to me when I read it and I meditate on

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It makes me, it crushes me and it brings me back to the, the beatitudes again.

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And I circle back to them and think, Oh my gosh, I need God.

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I can't do this.

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And I'm convicted by my sin and I, and I, I want to change and I, and I feel, oh man,

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this is hard.

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And, but I think it would be much worse if we never looked in the mirror, you know, and

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just coasted, right?

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That's the, that's the lazy river to hell right there.

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And, you know, the, and then he ends the sermon talking about building.

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It's something that you are building.

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It's not something that you are sort of in what I was saying before.

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If I thought, if I memorized it, I would have it.

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It's not something that it doesn't work that way.

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It's something that I have to build and I have to build it on the right foundation.

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You know, if you build your house on the rock, it'll stand in the storm.

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If you build it on not the rock, the rock being Jesus, if I build it on my own character,

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if I build it on my own performance, if I build it on my church attendance or on my

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denominational affiliation or on my education or on my talent or on anything that's not

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that rock, which is Jesus, then when the storm comes, it's not going to stand.

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And it's something that we're, we're building.

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I really love the, the thought of that because building involves creativity and it involves

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collaboration.

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It involves, it involves other people.

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It involves the Holy Spirit and it, it, it's sort of an encouragement at the end of all

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that really hard stuff at the end where it says you, you might look like you're on the

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way, but you might be going in the complete opposite direction because I've got to build

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it and I've got to realize that as long as I'm on this side of eternity, that building

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continues.

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That building is something that has to keep going on.

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This is, this is good stuff.

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I, I love you like leaning into that analogy because Jesus is so good with his analogies.

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And when, when I think about kind of the quintessential analogies that Jesus makes about this relationship

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of walking with him and it being a process of obedience and grace and love, I think about

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John 15.

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I don't know if you guys mind if I just read a few.

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Yeah, please go for it.

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Because I think this is, this is at the end of Jesus' ministry and he's kind of reflecting

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back and he's reminding his disciples of the paradigm.

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And so he, Matthew seven, he uses that idea of builder and here it's, it's gardening.

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The gardening analogy.

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So in Matthew 15 verse one, he says, I am the true vine and my father is the gardener.

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He takes away every branch that does not bear fruit in me.

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He prunes every branch that bears fruit so that it will bear more fruit.

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You are clean already because of the word I have spoken to you.

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Remain in me and I will remain in you just as the branch cannot bear fruit by itself

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unless it remains in the vine.

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So neither can you unless you remain in me.

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I am the vine.

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You are the branches.

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The one who remains in me and I and him bears much fruit because apart from me, you can

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accomplish nothing.

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If anyone does not remain in me, he is thrown out like a branch and dries up and such branches

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are gathered up and thrown into the fire and are burned up.

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If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be

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done for you.

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My father is honored by this that you bear much fruit and show that you are my disciples.

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So I mean there, right?

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Jesus is like really hitting this point.

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You can't do anything unless you remain in me.

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But if you remain in me, you're going to be pruned.

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You keep on bearing more fruit.

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And my question then is like, well, how do I remain in you, Jesus?

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And so then he answers that in verse nine and 10.

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It is just as the father has loved me, I have also loved you remain in my love.

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If you obey my commandments, you remain in my love just as I have obeyed my father's

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commandments and remain in his love.

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And so I mean, he talks earlier about loving, right?

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Loving Jesus.

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You're going to keep his commands.

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And I appreciate what you shared, Mata.

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It's not that they're like equivalent, right?

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Love precedes obedience.

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But love can't be absent from obedience.

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But I think here it's like the analogy is just like it's a vine, right?

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It's just all linked up.

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We can't separate ourselves from Jesus.

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We can't separate Jesus from his teachings.

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We can't separate Jesus' teachings from our lives.

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It's just this all, this mass that is continuously growing and building and bringing God glory

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in that pruning, growing process.

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I don't know if any of you have rose bushes.

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I have, I've killed a few.

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And I'm in the active process of killing one now.

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The blight got one and I didn't know if you clipped one, you could take it over to the

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other one.

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I figured that out though, the hard way.

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We have one beautiful rose bush left.

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And what I've learned though is you really do need to prune the heck out of them a lot.

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And that is what they need.

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They really thrive after that.

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And I like this.

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I do think this reminds me a lot of the love piece I think of as God loving us first and

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because he did, we have a chance to love him and that it is all intertwined.

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And thank goodness we have the Holy Spirit and we remain in him holding on to his commands,

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not letting go of them, returning to them again and again and again.

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We fall down, we pick ourselves up, we go back and we're going to keep getting pruned

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and that's going to feel really hard, but it's going to prepare us to bear fruit.

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And that's something that just, you know, my rose bush produces flowers because it's

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just stayed there and it's still absorbing all the water from the ground.

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And the Holy Spirit's going to keep moving in us and we're going to get pruned and it's

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not going to feel good and that sin that we, you know, self-reliance or whatever is going

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to get chopped at and taken down.

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And then we're going to be producing something that's beautiful that glorifies God.

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And you know, the fruit that comes from that.

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I mean, I think the question I think you were going to follow up with was like, well, I

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mean, how can we, how can we do this?

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How can we do what the Sermon on the Mount calls us to do?

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I mean, Jesus is loving him as to keep his commands, but I can't keep these.

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And so what happens if we sin?

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What happens if we fall short of the commands that are being talked about here?

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Are there scriptures that you guys think about when you're thinking about that process of

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sinning and getting back on your feet again or fault or even, you know, sometimes it's

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not the same sins that we do, but it's the good that we don't do.

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How do we move forward in those times when we're like, I want to love Jesus.

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I want to keep his commands, but I feel like I'm having trouble holding onto this.

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What do you guys think about that?

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I guess it's like the process of sanctification, right?

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This process.

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What keeps you guys going?

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God's mercy.

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I think, I think the world lies to us and we have to keep going back to his word.

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I'm, I'm not okay if I'm spending, if I'm not spending time in the word, if I'm not

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reminding myself of what's real, I get weird, real easy.

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I'm so, my natural inclination is to be self-reliant and rely on my own strength and not look to

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God.

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And the more that I realize, the more I read the Bible, the more I realize I have to keep

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my eyes focused on him.

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And yeah, I'm going to mess up.

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And I've started to, to realize the longer that I've been holding onto Jesus that I've

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tasted more of his mercy and it's made me more secure.

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And I think that I, I am an insecure person and that I want people to like me.

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And so talking about my sin is hard and I don't want to look bad.

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And I don't want people to think, Oh, why would you be struggling with that?

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That's stupid.

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And shouldn't you be further along?

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And I often think, Yeah, I should be.

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I thought I'd be a lot further along than I am right now, you know?

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But I'm not.

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And I am really grateful that I have mercy.

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And I think that you got to just keep going back.

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And these are some of the verses that I think help me, you know, to remember and to focus

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on Jesus.

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I think that and you guys and our virtual audience out there is going to have to forgive

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me because it's getting late at night where I am right here.

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So I'm not recalling the scripture.

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I believe it's in Philippians where it talks about all attaining to or living up to what

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you've already attained.

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And I think, you know, being, having been a Christian as long as I have, going on 40

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years.

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Now, anything that you've been doing for 40 years, you ought to be really, really, you

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ought to be an expert at it.

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And sometimes I feel like I'm a novice all over again.

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And passages like that helped me because they helped me to understand that.

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So I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to cure cancer here.

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I'm trying to live what I already know, what I've already experienced, because what happens

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is when I sin.

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So when I, when I fall to something.

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I, in my mind, I want to say, well, see, you're a loser.

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You've always been a loser.

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You're always going to be a loser.

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And I want to park there and I want to stop there.

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But then I think, no, I'm not a loser.

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I know what God has done in my life.

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I know what it takes.

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I know, like you were saying that, I know that if I'm not in the word deeply and consistently

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and for me, because I need it, not because I need to teach somebody that, not because

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somebody's going to ask me what's your Bible study like these days or what are you studying

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in your Bible, but then I do it because I know that I need it because if I don't do

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it, I'm a mess.

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And that's what, that's what keeps me going.

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That's what keeps me saying, you know what?

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You're not a loser because the Holy Spirit is in you.

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And it's not, it goes beyond, you're not a loser because you've been doing this for 40

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years and there's, you get there, you know, longevity counts.

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No, I'm not a loser because Jesus loves me and I love him.

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The Holy Spirit is in me and I know how to get back out of this.

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My sinful nature wants to tell me, no, you don't know how to get yours.

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You're not going to.

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And it's that that keeps me going.

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That the Holy Spirit is in me, groaning, communicating things that I can't with my mind, but that

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helps me with my spirit.

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When I'm weak, then I'm strong.

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If I can just keep focused on Jesus, I am, you know, he carries me.

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And I think the, so much of faith, you know, how we are, we live is just keeping our eyes

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focused on Jesus.

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I mean, the author and perfector of our faith, right?

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I think that when I read things like John 1, where it says in the beginning, the word

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was with God and the word was God.

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00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,560
The way that he uses that with word, it actually means toward.

466
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,280
Jesus's whole orientation is toward the Father.

467
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,800
And you can see that the rest of the, you know, he says, oh, I can only do what I see

468
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,800
my father doing.

469
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,920
I only say what my father's told me to say.

470
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,840
And that is so amazing, right?

471
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,760
He models what faith is for us, look to God.

472
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,760
Yeah.

473
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,760
Yeah.

474
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,120
I know that we're coming up on time.

475
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,280
I don't know if we answered the question at all still, but this has been a fun discussion.

476
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,280
Yeah.

477
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:21,080
I guess I just want to bring it back in my mind to the Sermon on the Mount there because

478
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:28,440
I think the Sermon on the Mount is supposed to and can serve as this amazing way of coming

479
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,960
back to Jesus.

480
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,960
Yes.

481
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:38,280
I think that it's that look in the mirror of where am I compared to where Jesus wants

482
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to be.

483
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And each time I look at it, every year, every month, I look at it again.

484
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,880
I'm going to see a new smudge on my face that I need to wipe off.

485
00:35:50,880 --> 00:36:02,360
And it can be difficult and it can be scary and I know doing that for 40 years, that must

486
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:08,320
be like, wow, this is a lot of work to keep on going through this.

487
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:16,760
But to be able to do that in the hope and the confidence that we're doing it with Jesus,

488
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:22,080
we're doing it in communion with the Holy Spirit and that the Holy Spirit is using this

489
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,240
as a tool to make us more like Jesus.

490
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:32,080
And so maybe to wrap up here, I don't think that if I was to answer this, the Sermon on

491
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:38,320
the Mount is new law in the same way the old law was like, here's the letter of the law

492
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:44,280
and you've got to go up to this and because people went up to the edge and then whatever

493
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,400
didn't say that, okay, and I've got all these loopholes now and I can, or they went to the

494
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,280
other extreme of building a hedge around the Torah and I'm not even getting close to it

495
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:58,080
and Jesus came in through and had a lot of fun, I think breaking those hedges down.

496
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:04,120
But it's more getting to the heart and getting to the motivations and getting to relationship

497
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:11,760
and almost to that point where the correlation I see in Romans 12 about by testing you may

498
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,760
discern.

499
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,640
And I think that our hearts would change and we would desire the things that God desires,

500
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,640
that we would desire Him as most important above all the other things that we could desire

501
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,640
in this world.

502
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:32,280
Yeah, I think that the Sermon on the Mount helps us every day in every hour at every

503
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,800
moment.

504
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:44,000
Jesus is ascending that mountain and sitting down prepared to teach and we have to keep

505
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,680
looking that way.

506
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:53,280
He's up there, so he's a little higher so we can see him if we look in that direction.

507
00:37:53,280 --> 00:38:02,560
But it's just that every day making that decision, I can follow Jesus and I can sit down at His

508
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:10,040
feet and I can listen to what He says or I can do this other thing.

509
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:19,320
Yeah, and this is, I think, is where we'll have to keep on digging in because unless

510
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,440
people forget what we talked about at the beginning of this episode, Jesus is like,

511
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,320
if you don't follow what I'm saying, you're doomed.

512
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,320
Right?

513
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:38,040
So, I think the Sermon on the Mount is both this aspirational, inspirational vision of

514
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:45,480
the future and it is the word of our teacher that we have to follow today.

515
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:54,360
I think we have to live in the both and there and we can't lose sight of those dual realities.

516
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,680
Agreed.

517
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,760
That's a great ending there.

518
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,760
Yes.

519
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,760
Thanks, man.

520
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:00,760
Good.

521
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,760
This has been fun.

522
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,760
This is fun.

523
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:31,760
I love this.

