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You're listening to City Church Manchester. We

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are a church that invites everyone to enjoy Christ

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.org to find out more. Alright, let's open 1

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Corinthians, all of chapter 14. Follow the way

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of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit,

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especially prophecy. For anyone who speaks in

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a tongue does not speak to people but to God.

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Indeed, no one understands them, but they utter

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mysteries by the Spirit. But the one who prophesies

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speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging,

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and comfort. Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies

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themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies

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the church. I would like every one of you to

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speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy.

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The one who prophesies is greater than the one

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who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets,

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so that the church may be edified. Now, brothers

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and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues,

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what good will I be to you unless I bring you

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some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word

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of instruction? Even in the case of lifeless

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things that make sounds, such as the pipe or

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harp, how will anyone know what tune is being

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played unless there is a distinction in the notes?

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Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear

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call, who will get ready for battle? So it is

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with you. Unless you speak intelligible words

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with your tongue, how will anyone know what you

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are saying? How will just speaking into the air?

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Undoubtedly, there are all sorts of languages

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in the world, yet none of them is without meaning.

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If then, I do not grasp the meaning of what someone

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is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker. and

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the speaker is a foreigner to me. So it is with

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you. Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit,

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try to excel in those that build up the church.

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For this reason, the one who speaks in a tongue

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should pray that they may interpret what they

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say. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays,

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but my mind is unproofful. So what shall I do?

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I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray

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with my understanding. I will sing with my spirit,

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but I will also sing with my understanding. Otherwise,

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when you are praising God in the spirit, how

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can someone else who is now put in the position

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of an inquirer say amen to your thanksgiving

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since they do not know what you are saying? You

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are giving thanks well enough, but no one else

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is edified. I thank God that I speak in tongues

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more than all of you. But in the church, I would

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rather speak five intelligible words to instruct

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others than 10 ,000 words in a tongue. Brothers

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and sisters, stop thinking like children. In

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regard to evil, be infants, but in your thinking,

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be adults. In the law, it is written, with other

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tongues and through the lips of foreigners, I

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will speak to these people, but even then they

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will not listen to me. Tongues then are a sign,

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not for believers, but for unbelievers. Prophecy,

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however, is not for unbelievers, but for believers.

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So if the whole church comes together and everyone

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speaks in tongues and inquires or unbelievers

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come in, will they not say that you are out of

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your mind? But if an unbeliever or an inquirer

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comes in while everyone is prophesying, they

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are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment

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by all, as the secrets of their hearts are laid

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bare. So they will fall down and worship God,

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exclaiming, God is really among you. What then,

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shall we say, brothers and sisters, when you

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come together, each of you has a hymn or a word

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of instruction, a revelation, a tongue, or interpretation.

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Everything must be done so that the church may

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be built up. If anyone speaks in a tongue, two

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or at the most three, should speak one at a time,

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and someone must interpret. If there is no interpreter,

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the speaker should keep quiet in the church and

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speak to himself and to God. Two or three prophets

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should speak, and the others should weigh carefully

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what is said. And if a revelation comes to someone

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who is sitting down, the first speaker should

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stop. For you can all prophesy in turn so that

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everyone may be instructed and encouraged. The

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spirits of prophets, are subject to the control

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of prophets. For God is not a God of disorder,

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but of peace, as in all the congregations of

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the Lord's people. Women should remain silent

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in the churches. They are not allowed to speak,

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but must be in submission, as the law says. If

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they want to inquire about something, they should

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ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful

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for a woman to speak in the church. Or did the

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word of God originate with you, or are you only

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people it has reached? If anyone thinks they

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are a prophet or otherwise gifted by the Spirit,

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let them acknowledge that what I am writing to

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you is the Lord's command. But if anyone ignores

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this, they will themselves be ignored. Therefore,

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my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy

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and do not forbid speaking in tongues, but everything

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should be done in a fitting and orderly way.

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Thanks so much and good afternoon everyone. Let

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me add my welcome to Ralph. My name is Matt.

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I'm one of the leaders here at City Church and

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it's my privilege, and I do say that advisedly,

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to take us through this passage this afternoon.

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Lots in it. Why don't we pray? Heavenly Father,

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we come before you knowing that all of your word

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is God -breathed. and suitable for encouragement,

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correction, exhortation and rebuke. And we do

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ask that you would speak to us now. Father, there's

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much in this passage for us to consider and to

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be challenged by, but we ask above all that you

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would show us the Lord Jesus. Amen. Now, when

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I was... When I was very small and in primary

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school, there was a particular place in my primary

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school that I was never, ever allowed to step

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into. Now this place in my primary school that

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I wasn't allowed to go into, it was how you might

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describe, in my imagination, it was a magical

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kingdom full of mystery. We believed, as pupils

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at the school, that it was filled with all sorts

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of treasures and wonders that would make your

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eyes bulge if you could only but gaze upon them.

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You could walk by this room, but you could never

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go in. And perhaps as you walked by, you would

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catch snippets of conversations. You would hear

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kind of crackles of laughter coming from the

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room. But you would never go in. What was this

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forbidden place of wonder and mystery? It was

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the staff room of the school. It was the staff

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room. And so like Indiana Jones, I resolved one

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day I would go into this magical kingdom and

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see it for myself. I devoted many years of my

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life to that quest and eventually, after much

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hardship, I achieved a PGCE and I became a trainee

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teacher in a school. And I had every expectation

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when you finally go into a staff room as a trainee

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teacher, and those of you who are teachers, you'll

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remember it. You go into the staff room and you

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expect it to be, you know, this kind of band

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of brothers. Everyone's together, excited about

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investing in knowledge and education for the

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next generation. And then you actually go in.

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And you meet the staff. And sure, there are some

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groups within every school staff room who are,

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they're idealistic, they're motivated, they get

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up each morning wanting to make a difference.

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But then there are others, teachers, who are

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not like that at all. They really only seem to

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be there for themselves. They are there for the

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salary, for the pension, for the holidays, for

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the convenience of a particular rhythm of life.

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Now I share that to you this afternoon because

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Paul's concern in our passage is that every church

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gathering that should be focused on the Lord

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Jesus Christ is in danger of in fact being fractured

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into two groups. Those who love themselves and

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those who love others. And in this section of

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chapters 12 to 14 of 1 Corinthians, Paul is addressing

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the fact in these few chapters that the Holy

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Spirit has generously given the Church of God

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all number of spiritual gifts to believers, but

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a little bit like, I don't know, a spiritual

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TK Maxx. should we say, that the Corinthian church

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were just piling in and seeing what they could

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simply grab for themselves and their own ego.

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Because what we've seen in these chapters is

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that the spiritual gifts are not necessarily

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tied to one's maturity. So the church in Corinth

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was weaponizing the more attention -grabbing

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gifts in order to elevate their own personal

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status over others. And Paul's point in these

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chapters, and this particular point in chapter

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14, is that we are not, as a church, to be participants

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in a spiritual Miss World pageant, just kind

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of showboating. showing off, but rather we are

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to use the gifts and the opportunities of gathering

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together in order to encourage others and seek

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the growth of others. Look at me at verse 12

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of chapter 14. It says this, since you are eager

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for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those

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that build up the church. I've got two points

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for us this afternoon. Point number one is two

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attitudes, and point number two is two types

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of church service. That's where we're going to

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go. So come with me to our first point, two attitudes.

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Now, chapter 14, as you will have gathered, is

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somewhat controversial. So let me cover a couple

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of house rules before we dive into the passage,

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because there's a lot to be potentially distracted

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by. So here's this one. Paul in chapter 14 is

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working on two levels. His big idea, his big

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idea overarching is that churches can have two

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attitudes at play. One is good and one is bad.

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And then on a second level, he's going to make

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concrete. these attitudes to the Corinthians

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by exploring the Corinthian use of two very specific

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gifts that were being used in the church. One

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is speaking in tongues and the other is speaking

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prophecy. So two levels. So I want you to remember

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the two levels, the big picture of the attitudes

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and then the second level, the details of the

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comparison between these two gifts. Remember

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the principles, don't get too distracted by the

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details. Now the first of the two attitudes I

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summarise as this. Church is about making me

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feel good. Church is about making me feel good.

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good. I think that's attitude number one. It's

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an attitude that Paul's seeing in the church

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in Corinth where, to put it in our language,

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everything is filtered through the lens of personal

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experience. How was the music? Well, I liked

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that song. I didn't know that song. I didn't

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like this song. I knew that song and I liked

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it. How was the sermon? It was okay. It didn't

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really engage me. How was the community? So -so.

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I saw some of my friends, but most people didn't

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really ask me how I was doing. Now, for Paul,

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his way of making this attitude concrete within

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the church in Corinth is to target their obsession

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with their favourite spiritual gift, speaking

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in tongues. Well, what is speaking in tongues?

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Well, the New Testament actually tells us very,

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very little about what this spiritual gift is.

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But it does tell us that it is a gift where some

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people can speak in a different language, possibly

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the language of angels, where the content is

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a mystery, but the tone is one of praise and

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thanksgiving to God. But most significantly,

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this ability, this particular gift, is for the

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purpose of encouraging the individual believer.

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But, Paul will say, it does not, on its own,

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benefit the wider community unless someone has

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a gift of interpretation. That's what Paul says

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in verse 4. Look with me at verse 4. He repeats

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it again in verse 5. In case we missed it, he'll

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say it again in verse 12. He'll repeat it in

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verse 17. And he'll repeat it again in verse

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19. Why is he repeating it so much? Fair question?

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It's likely that, let's imagine that we're in

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a church service in Corinth. It's likely that

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we're in the middle of a church service and one

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person starts speaking out loud in this particular

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language. And then another person stands up and

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they do the same. And by now the whole of the

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attention of the congregation is focused on these

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people speaking in this strange language. And

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such was the... culture in the church in Corinth.

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I imagine other people in the church would have

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seized their opportunity to show how spiritual

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they were by also standing up, speaking joyfully,

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happily, full of overflowing thanksgiving in

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these languages that no one could recognize.

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And what was the result? Massive distraction.

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Now, I don't know whether this happened every

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week. I don't know whether they were filling

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out, I don't know, prayer cards, and then someone

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on the balcony stood up and started doing that.

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I don't know whether it was when the leader was

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going through the notices at the end, people

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stood up and started to do it. I don't know.

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All we know is Paul's concern is that the exercise

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of this particular gift in the gathered congregation

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It's as chaotic as feeding time at the zoo. But

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I want you to note that Paul isn't suggesting

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that the people in the Corinth church were faking

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it. He actually says, no, no, the gift of tongues

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is good. Look what he notes in verse 18. I thank

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God that I speak in tongues more than all of

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you. Which is why Paul, I think, is anticipating

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the Corinthian response is, well, Paul, if it's

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great to do this and there isn't a problem, then

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why can't I exercise my freedom to enjoy myself

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by using this gift in front of the gathered church?

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After all, it's a gift that best fits my spiritual

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needs right now. Whereas Paul's point, I think,

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in chapter 14 is, It is better to cultivate the

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second attitude of building up others at church

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more than yourself. That's the second attitude.

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And to illustrate this, he focuses on a spiritual

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gift called prophecy. What is prophecy? Now,

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prophecy is likely to be a spiritual gift that

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refers to a direct revelation from God. It's

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often spontaneous. It is always consistent with

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Scripture. And when it is shared out loud, it

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both makes sense and it encourages the wider

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church. And Paul holds up the use of prophecy

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as another legitimate gift for the church in

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Corinth to use. It is a gift from God to his

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people. And Paul's point in chapter 14 is that

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this gift of prophecy is much better suited to

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congregational worship than the gift of tongues.

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Look at his explanation of why in verse 9. He

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says this. Unless you speak intelligible words

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with your tongue, how will anyone know what you

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are saying? You will just be speaking into the

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air. And that's the heart of Paul's musical illustration

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in verses 7 to 8. A different way for us, I think,

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to think about it this afternoon here in Manchester

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is this. Co -op live. Okay, we all know Co -op

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Live. Me and Nod, if you know Co -op Live, what

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I'm talking about, I think it's Europe's largest

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indoor concert venue. It's just down the road

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from here. The BAFTAs were held there a couple

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of weeks ago. Huge, huge stadium. I'm pretty

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sure that Helen and the team have considered

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it as a building alternative for us. Now imagine,

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imagine with me, the Co -op Live, you've got

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the option of going to two different concerts.

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You can only choose one. One concert would be

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a toddler on a xylophone. You know, it's only

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a couple of hours, toddler on a xylophone. The

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other option is listening to a great world -famous

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pianist. Now let me ask you this. Which performer's

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work is most valuable? Well, both. Both, both

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in very different ways. Well, let me ask you

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this. Which performer performs with most passion,

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most joy, most thanksgiving for their opportunity

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to make music? Both, both. Different ways, but

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both. But which performer would you rather invite

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your friends to listen to, some of whom love

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music? and some of whom have never been to a

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concert before? Well, the answer is, for most

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of us, probably be the pianist. Which is why

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in verses 23 to 25, Paul is thinking of an average

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church service where there are believers and

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non -believers together, and he notes that prophecy

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is more likely going to serve the outsider and

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the visitor. Now look, Some of you who might

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be regulars here are thinking, oh, why did I

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invite my friend to church today? Of all passages,

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why did they have to come to this one? You might

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be a non -Christian thinking, why on earth have

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I come today? What is this place? What are these

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things that these people are talking about? No,

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no, no, no, wait, wait, wait. Before you leave,

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this is a really great Sunday for you to be here.

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This is a brilliant passage for you. Yes, this

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passage is weird. I concede. But it is great

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for you to see it. Why? Because you need to know

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if you are a non -believer or you are a visitor

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here, that although you may be an outsider to

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this particular community, the people of this

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church are deliberately making choices to put

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their preferences aside in order to, A, make

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you feel really welcome. And B, they're putting

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their preferences aside to make sure that it

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is as clear as possible to communicate to you

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what we believe about the good news of Jesus.

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We will have made choices in terms of the lyrics

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of the songs of the speaker who will be on stage.

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Even taking the time to explain everything as

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thoroughly as we can do so you understand it.

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Even though most of us could probably recite

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the three notices at the end of the service in

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our sleep. We do it for you. So let me apply

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this to all of us. The evidence of your spiritual

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maturity. is whether or not you ask yourself

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this question before you come to church on Sunday.

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I wonder who I can step out of my comfort zone

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to serve today. That really is the mark of spiritual

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maturity among us. And it's also marked by perhaps

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a prayer at the end of a Sunday when you go home

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and you're preparing for Monday morning, whatever

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that might bring, and you say this prayer, Thank

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you, Lord, that you use the gifts that you have

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given me to make a difference to someone at church

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today. I think that is the mark of spiritual

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maturity according to the principles. of chapter

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14. I wonder how you're getting on with those

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types of questions in your own heart. Well, come

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with me to our second and final point, two types

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of church service. Now, we're midway through

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chapter 14. It kind of carves up quite nicely

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for us. And the simple summary of the challenge

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that Paul is addressing in the church in Corinth

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is this. To what extent should a church look

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like the surrounding culture and to what extent

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should it look very different? To what extent

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should it look very similar to the culture and

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to what extent should it look different? Let's

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make this more personal, more concrete to us

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here at City Church. How should City Church look

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in the middle of a global international city?

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And what should our new church plan in Worsley

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look like? What should it look like? You see,

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some churches around the world meet in cathedrals

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and other churches, well, they meet under the

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branches of very large trees. Which one is right

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and which one is wrong? Well, actually, there

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is a wondrous, wondrous diversity amongst true

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churches of God right across the world. Wondrous

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diversity. That's great. But the church in Corinth

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had imported into their gatherings the whole

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of Greco -Roman culture like sugar injected right

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into the brain. Factions had been built in this

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church around their favorite leaders. Preferential

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treatment was given to the rich over the poor

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when they gathered for the Lord's Supper. And

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the church in Corinth wielded spiritual gifts

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like a fashion catwalk, all for compliments and

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self -promotion. These were the behaviors more

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widely going on in the culture. So in verses

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26 to 40, Paul pulls together, I think, the first

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14 chapters of the letter of 1 Corinthians by

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painting a picture of what an authentic church

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experience should feel like. Rules of engagement

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before we dive in. Rules of engagement before

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we dive in on this one, because again, we all

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have opinions. Paul is describing... Specific

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things in a particular church, in a particular

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culture, in a particular moment of history. And

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therefore, church, note the details, but pay

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more attention to the principles. Now look with

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me at verse 40. Right at the very end of the

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chapter. It is Paul's conclusion, but I think

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it's a useful guiding summary for us. You see,

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there's option one, which is a church service

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that feels like a, I don't know, a circus. And

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then there's option two, which is Paul's description

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in verse 40. Everything should be done in a fitting

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and orderly way. He then outlines a number of

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ingredients on the service plan for the Corinthian

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church in verse 26. Look at verse 26. We're told

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that the church in Corinth, they sang, there's

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preaching, and there's also revelation. I think

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that's likely to mean prophecy going on. And

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his point is there is a running order of distinct

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sections within this church service. It is not

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a TK Maxx church. There is order. In verses 27

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to 29, Paul even goes as far as to say how many

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participants should be involved in this particular

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section in the church in Corinth. Now, look,

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is he concerned, like a typical city church,

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that the service might run too long? Perhaps.

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Is he concerned that if the preacher doesn't

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keep to time, that the children will go kind

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of, I don't know, all Lord of the Flies out there

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because they need food or something like that?

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Perhaps. But actually what I think Paul is really

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concerned about is the Corinthian habit. Of this

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free for all, showboating, spiritual peacocking,

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it's my turn to get my preference met. And for

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Paul, again, the message is no. No, no, no, no,

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church services are not about, it's not about

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you. It's about serving others. It's about serving

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the believers. It's about serving the non -believers.

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And that is best done through order and structure.

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Look at verse 26. Everything must be done so

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that the church may be built up. And order is

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a key ingredient in building up others in the

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church. Now, look with me at verses 30 to 33.

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Verses 30 to 33 are fascinating. When Paul describes,

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when he's making sure that in prophecy section,

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no one should hog the mic, he's basically saying

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the principle that it is better to be succinct

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and not say everything if it maintains order

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and structure of the service. Preacher, take

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note. But why is he so focused on order in a

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church's weekly gathering? Why does it matter

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so much? It's because order is the fragrance

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of Eden. What do I mean by that? When God created

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the world in Genesis 1, he was moving from chaos

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of an uncreated world to order. Everything of

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its kind, everything in its particular section,

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everything in its right place in the right way

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so it thrives. It was chaotic and God's creation

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makes it beautiful, ordered, structured. That's

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not sucking the life out of it. It is nurturing

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it to make it fruitful and wonderful. And it

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kind of makes sense. You see, you and I live

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in a very chaotic city. We have very busy lives.

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Many of us feel very overwhelmed by our circumstances

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where, if we're honest, isn't there just too

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much to do? When was the last time you got to

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the end of your to -do list? Don't most of us

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feel either on the verge at best of failure and

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at worst of burnout? Is that not the boundary

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line that we live in? Where the danger of more

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mess is not simply that we will be uncomfortable.

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The danger is more mess is that it may be the

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final straw that breaks the camel's back. If

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you're like me, do you not just long for rest?

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For green pastures and still quiet waters. Where

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should we go for this rest? In this city, Paul's

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instruction is come to church. Because there

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is the fragrance of Eden. Because there is order

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that allows us, undistracted, to see Christ.

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Now look. Let's be frank, you may be tired here

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at City Church of the predictability of this

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many songs and then stand up and then sit down

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and then this many songs. You might be tired

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of the type of liturgy that we use or the predictability

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of the slightly awkward greeting section that

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we have or the sermon that always climaxes with

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Jesus or always having to fill in the prayer

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cards and then the three notices at the end.

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Every week, really? But the order. The lack of

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chaos that comes with structure is subtly teaching

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your restless soul that for a short while on

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a Sunday afternoon, this is a safe and good and

00:31:16.890 --> 00:31:22.799
nourishing place for you to be. Sure. Sure, it

00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.680
does not have all of the endless distracting

00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.779
variety of doom -scrolling your particular algorithms

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till 1am in the morning, but that's kind of the

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point. Paul says it well in verse 33, for God

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is not a God of disorder but of peace, as in

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all congregations of the Lord's people. Now,

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I was thinking about... kind of quietly tiptoeing

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past verses 34 to 35. But I figured you might

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want to talk about it. Now, okay. 34, 35. Remember

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the context is a chaotic service where lots of

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people were likely to be speaking over the top

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of each other in... in trying to use their gifts,

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including the gifts of prophecy. And Paul is

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teaching them that the drama of a church service

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mustn't be in the behavior of the people, but

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actually the drama should all be in the words

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of God. See, I think we can understand what's

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going on here in a particular way. Let me briefly

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go through. The word women in our passage can

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also be interpreted as wives, and that is likely

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to be the case with the reference in verse 35.

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to them speaking to their husbands. We also know

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that Paul doesn't actually have a problem with

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women publicly participating in church services,

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because in chapter 11, verse 5, he notes that

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women can pray and prophesy. So bringing these

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things together, what exactly is going on? Well,

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I think the likelihood is this. In chapter 11

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of 1 Corinthians, there is a concern that women

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should not follow the trend in the culture and

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publicly dishonor their marriages. And so again

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in chapter 14, I think Paul is saying that women

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should not negatively cross -examine their own

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husbands when their own husbands are prophesying.

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I think there was an issue of heckling going

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on in the crowd. Now, I don't know exactly what

00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.299
was going on in the church of Corinth, but Paul

00:33:36.299 --> 00:33:39.460
is clearly concerned that marital conflict was

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being played out like a soap opera in front of

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everyone during the Sunday gatherings. And Paul's

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point is clear to say, this is not the best time

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to do it. Now, again, the word submission in

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our passage was a term used also in chapter 11.

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It's in a very specific context of Christian

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marriage. If you want to dig in more, why don't...

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not listen to that sermon on chapter 11 that

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you can find online. So to conclude, I guess

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we understand that the attitude should be one

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of being loving and that actually we understand

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that order should be a key part of the church

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experience. But the nagging question is, if we're

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to be honest, I think is this. What if the Sunday

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gathering isn't what you want it to be? After

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all, I know that some of you don't get to sing

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the traditional hymns that you want to sing,

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and I know that others of you would love for

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prophecy to be less rare in this church. What

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do we say to that? Jesus, on the evening of his

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final Passover, he gathered his friends to be

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close to him. We call it the last supper, typically.

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Can you imagine the intensity of that gathering?

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Jesus, in this final time with his friends, he

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prepares everything for the gathering. I imagine

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he just wanted it to be just so. Food, drink,

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atmosphere. With his friends, he had things to

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share with them, things to reveal to them in

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these final glorious moments. You could imagine

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of all of the moments, no one would want to make

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this moment gathered around Jesus. About themselves.

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Yet Judas, his friend, would close his ears.

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to Jesus and betray him for money and his friend

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Peter would claim loyalty to Jesus like singing

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a hymn with his loudest voice and yet would betray

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him to keep his reputation. And then the other

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disciples just after this meal at the moment

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that Jesus needed them to focus their attention

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on him would betray him by choosing to sleep.

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Now, if you and I had been there, we would have

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done the same. As you gather around Jesus each

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Sunday, you and I do exactly what the disciples

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did. And we do it all the time. We take our focus

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off Christ and we make it about ourselves. You

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do it and I do it. But this is good news. This

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is exactly why Jesus chose to die on a cross

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for us. So that your wrong attitudes and my chaotic,

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self -obsessed preferences will never be a barrier

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to you and me being called friends by Jesus and

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called to be with him. That's why he died on

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the cross. Because Jesus chose to lay down his

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rights and his preferences on the cross, because

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he sacrificed his life to serve us and not to

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make this a place where he was served, we are

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now invited to gather in his presence, both in

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this service this afternoon, but now at the Lord's

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Supper at the table. And because of the cross,

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Jesus' forgiven friends will be invited to come.

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And they will make a queue right down this aisle

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just here. And there will be the self -obsessed.

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The person behind them will be the, it's all

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about me. then there'll be the showboaters and

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then behind them there will be the I want more

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drama -ers and then behind them there'll be I

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don't like the music -ers and then behind them

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there I want more charismatic gifters and behind

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them towards the back will be the grumblers and

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the moaners and then behind those those who are

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distracted and spiritually dry and then behind

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them queued up will be those who are resentfully

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unseen, and then behind them at the back will

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be those who only come once a month. And because

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of the cross, every single one of them will be

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welcome at this table. So in the light of looking

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at the Lord Jesus, in the light of remembering

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his death, And his resurrection. Will you join

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the line? In a few minutes time. Will you join

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the line?
