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Hello, I am Kendall.

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And I am Brie.

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And you are listening to When the Light Goes Out.

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Hey!

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Hey!

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Happy happy Friday.

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All your dreams come true.

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It's another Friday.

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And I like the color blue.

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Hey!

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Welcome everyone.

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I don't like the color blue.

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It's okay.

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I actually don't either so it's alright.

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I like red.

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I don't like blue.

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I want orange gal.

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I like orange.

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We're close.

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I like the sunset orange.

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Yeah.

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Like the good macaroni cheese.

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A darker.

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No, like a little darker but yeah.

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Yeah.

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Hello everyone.

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Thank you for joining us in another episode of our wonderful show that we have been going

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on now for how long has it been?

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Oh wow.

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October?

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Yeah.

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Our first episode I think was like the end of August.

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Oh August?

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August, September.

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September.

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It was September.

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September, October.

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I guess that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Because it was like beginning of October.

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Like right before.

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Yeah.

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And here we are.

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We started the series.

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Started the series.

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The Cecil Hotel series.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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That was a good series too.

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That was fun.

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That was fun.

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Oh my gosh.

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Well today's case in my opinion is like super, I don't say super but it has some parallels

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to feel like the, what was the case that we did?

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Uh, Elise Lam.

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Elise Lam case.

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Which is, it's really sad and really just crazy in my opinion but I mean hey, that's

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why we're here to tell these stories.

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I always say to you guys.

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But first of all, I'm gonna need Jack Frost, Steve Void to pack his shit and get the hell

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out of Mid West.

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His bruh, I am ready for my spring outfits already and it's not getting any easier.

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Fuck right off seriously with this weather.

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So sick of it.

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I literally had to chisel my car afterwards.

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Chisel?

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That's what you gotta do.

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I get it.

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Chisel the ice off.

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It literally got to the point where my hands actually felt like they were frostbite.

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They hurt so bad because I was chiseling the ice off my car for 20 minutes and it got

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to the point where I was just so cold and frustrated that I started like smacking the

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ice off instead of chiseling out at it and honestly it worked better.

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So recommend.

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10 out of 10 recommend.

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Yeah, but maybe be a little careful just so you know you don't break your windshield.

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But yeah.

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Oh I love that.

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Oh my gosh.

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I hate the weather.

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I hate the cold.

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I hate the fact that Michigan just has so many seasons.

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It bugs the hell out of me.

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Never loved it.

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Never liked it in my life.

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But here we are.

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We're here.

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And I think also I like walked out this morning and all I could see was this trees covered

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I forget that by even this thing.

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Like ugh.

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If you live anywhere else in the world and you don't have snow or you hardly ever have

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snow and you're probably thinking what?

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I love snow.

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No.

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Stop.

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Stop.

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Live here for your life.

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If you want to you know, switch with me and you know, live here for a day, be my guest.

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It's fine.

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The ice was actually like broke off a branch of a tree.

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Like on the way to your place.

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I think like I was going to say on the way to your place there are so many like streets

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like that are out.

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Like no street lights or anything.

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and it literally looked like a rave on the freeway.

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I have never seen that in my life before.

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For like a mile or two miles stretch.

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You guys can't see this obviously but that literally the street lights on the freeway

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are just like flickering on and off.

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It's like almost like some phenomena.

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It's kind of creepy.

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Like a fucking rave.

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Like good fucking luck if you have seizures from.

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Oh yeah.

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Like epilepsy or something.

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Oh my gosh.

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That's really dangerous.

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Oh my god.

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Breeze looking at me taking pictures of me and boo.

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As we're recording right now, we'll post it on her.

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We'll post it on our Instagram.

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That's cute.

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Are they kid enough?

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Can I see them?

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I'm scared.

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They're not the best.

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You look good.

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Since I'm ready now.

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You look good but boo isn't really looking in the pictures.

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Boo be.

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Boo be.

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I'm just having a cute little photo shoot but hold on guys.

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Outdoor cheers.

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Okay I got a whole bunch.

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Sit idle.

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Wait we're not done yet.

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I was getting redone.

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Fuck that is cute.

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Okay bet.

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Send that to me.

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That's going to be another picture.

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Okay.

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Yeah this one's Instagram post worthy.

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That's Instagram post worthy.

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The other one was like Instagram story.

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We both look so cute.

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Boo.

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I air dropped it to you.

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Anyhoo.

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Did you get it?

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I don't know.

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Yeah I did get it.

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Accept it.

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Yeah I got it.

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You hear that?

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I got it.

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I got it.

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Back to the show.

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We're sitting over here sitting each other pictures.

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Okay Anyhoo.

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This is so cute.

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I had to say though on terms of just what the fuck is that?

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I think someone's yelling.

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Someone's like that's all I hear in the next room.

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I'm like what the fuck is that?

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I'm sorry guys.

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I think someone's yelling outside.

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Well I needed to say this.

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On the note of just what the actual fuck for the week?

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Tennessee.

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Fuck Tennessee.

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What the actual fuck is going on over there?

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There has now been the first ban on Kona Ko adult cabaret performances aka track shows

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in the state of Tennessee so that just pretty much means that it's an offense for a person

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to engage in adult cabaret performance on public property or in a local location where

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the adult cabaret performance could be viewed as a person who is not an adult.

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So basically they're saying if you're a child below 18 and you see someone performing

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and quote unquote adult cabaret you'll be arrested or you know.

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This is a stupid law.

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Fines or whatever so I am so sorry all of my queers out in Tennessee if you're listening

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to us.

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This is a stupid law.

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Stupid ass law.

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I don't care what they say.

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Like I know this is a I know they're like don't say certain things on a podcast but

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no fuck that.

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Like what the actual fuck Tennessee.

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This is literally like I feel like this is this is not against human rights.

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It just seems like it.

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I don't know.

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It's just like it's just freedom of speech or to me or it has to be something.

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I guess like segregation in a way but not necessarily.

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I'm trying to think of the word for it.

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I think I know what you're getting at.

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What is that word?

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I can't think of it.

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No it's okay.

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Segregation separation.

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Don't hurt your mind thinking about it.

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I'm hurting my mind.

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The wheels are turning.

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It's the most thinking I've done today.

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No it's okay but no it that's just something I really have to just mention.

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Well that was all of my like I guess true crime news.

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I mean to me it's true crime but you were fucking.

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It's a crime against humanity.

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It's a crime against humanity but we're not going to Tennessee today.

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Today we're going to California.

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I want to go to California.

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I want to go to California too.

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That's going to be California.

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Let's go.

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Let's just go.

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Done.

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Let's just go.

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Pack our bags.

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Let's establish ourselves and just just go.

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Let's just.

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Pack our bags.

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Pack our bags as we speak.

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When the lights go out goes on vacation.

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Ooh I like that.

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Vacation episode.

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Check out some spooky episodes and some Victorian California mansions.

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We go visit the Winchester house.

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The Winchester.

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It is.

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You're right.

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It's in San Francisco I do believe.

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Period.

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Let's go.

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Let's go.

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Cool.

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Let's go.

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Well without further ado.

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Oh without further ado.

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Oh by the way I'm reading today's episode.

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Oh Bree it's taking over today's episode.

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What?

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I'm excited for this.

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What?

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For anybody who likes when I do episodes.

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Here you go.

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This is your time.

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It's not going to happen often.

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This is a phenomena.

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We love it.

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Not the phenomena.

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The phenomena.

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It's not going to happen often so you're welcome.

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I love it.

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Me and Boo are going to sit back and just listen.

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Love.

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I write people episode 25.

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Woo woo let's get it.

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Halfway through our 25s.

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Halfway through our 50s.

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I mean 20s.

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Halfway through our 25s.

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Halfway through our 20s.

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Oh halfway yeah.

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I was like halfway to 50.

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You're like halfway to 25.

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Halfway through our 20s.

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That's my dumb ass motives.

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That's my dumb ass mind right now.

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That's my dumb ass mind.

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You're like woo our 20s and I'm like 50s.

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I'm like bitch.

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I know I'm a crazy old cat lady but like damn.

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Episode 25.

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The disappearance of Matrice Richardson.

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This was a fun case to really get into and investigate.

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It's an interesting case.

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Yeah.

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Unfortunate case but interesting.

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Yeah definitely.

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Me and Bree had talked about this case and I feel like this is one of the most

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cases that if you are strongly opinionated when it comes to.

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True crime.

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True crime.

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Or just cases in general.

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The police forces and cases.

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Things like that.

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I feel like this is one of those.

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Yeah no kidding.

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You're gonna be yelling at the phone.

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Yeah literally.

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Wherever you listen to your broadcast.

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Yelling at the speaker just like infuriated because I know I am.

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Still.

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Just ugh.

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But further ado let's dive in.

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Before we enter into the story this case takes place mostly in 2009 and we still

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don't really know what happened to Matrice the night she went missing but let's jump

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into the story.

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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Not get ahead of ourselves.

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Matrice Levon Richardson was born on April 30th in 1985 to her parents Latrice Sutton

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and Michael Richardson.

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Though had been raised by her mother and stepfather Larry Sutton in Covina California which is

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about 22 miles east outside of downtown Los Angeles.

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Matrice's biological father Michael was sent to prison when Matrice was a little girl but

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after he had been released a decade later he really wanted to change and be there for

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his daughter.

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Good for him.

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Yeah I love a good father that could change his life around and I mean we all do bad shit.

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We do it in our lifetimes but it's all about if he can change that.

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And he did end up changing his life around actually.

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He was starting to become a much more present father to Matrice and he did eventually end

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up getting a job in healthcare.

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Good for him.

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Good for him.

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Matrice's mother Latrice was always very serious about her daughter's education and really

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helped her grow to become a very intelligent gal.

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She was top of her class at South Hills High School in West Covina.

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Here we it.

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Smartass chick.

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La-la-la.

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Love girl power.

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She was a very competitive cheerleader and most of her friends would describe her as

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a very preppy California girl as well as her mother describing her as a girly girl that

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was not at all outdoorsy.

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Me too.

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Yeah I guess if you look at pictures of her too and like every episode at WTLGO podcast

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on Instagram we'll have pictures of her but she was really really pretty.

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She was and I think like this and I'm not gonna say like I don't know for sure but I

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want to believe that a lot of the things and a lot of the reasons she got away with certain

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things throughout this case is probably because of how intelligent already but also how pretty

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she was and so I think she yeah she not pretty privileged life.

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She was a pretty girl.

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Insert California girl by Katy Perry.

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Literally yeah yeah there you go.

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Yeah she's so pretty in fact that she eventually started getting into dance classes and pageant

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trees and she really loved being in pageants.

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She looks so pretty in her pictures too of her pageants and her like little chests and

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I love it.

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No kidding.

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As Kendall was saying with all of that beauty that Matrice did have she definitely knew how

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to use it to win the judges over and just like win everybody over in general and she

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had a very outgoing energy, brains, charm, everything.

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We love it.

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So she was like Miss girl.

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Miss girl.

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Miss girl.

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Get you a girl that can do it.

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Hey.

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Around the time that Matrice had went to college.

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Excuse me.

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Not me.

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Cupidy cracking.

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Around the time that Matrice had went to college she really started exploring her sexuality

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like most people do to be honest.

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Yeah we all do.

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Yeah when they're away from home.

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In 2006 she made a very difficult decision to come out to her family as gay in fear that

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her family would disown her but it was actually the exact opposite.

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Her family fully accepted her sexuality and soon after Matrice would start dating her

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then girlfriend Tessa Moon.

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Good.

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What a blessing to have a family that really supports.

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I feel like you should say you're fully supports right?

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Oh yeah definitely.

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I was like I feel like you should because that makes it sound like your family does

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not support you at all.

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No they definitely do.

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Jeanne, Mark, Mary they all do.

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No I could say I guess as just being a queer person myself that it's really scary when

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you first have to come out to your family and it's just all the emotions.

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How do you guys get through this?

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And I always tell any of the queer people out there too that it's always difficult at first.

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To get past that it gets much easier so I cannot speak whether it's whether your family

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does or doesn't like the fact that you choose the sexuality or not even choose because they

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don't even choose it.

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The one you're born with or one you just adapt into.

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So I get it.

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Again, wow.

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For whatever reason I feel like your mama knew from a young age.

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I think most moms know quite honestly.

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I'm to say and not even only my mom, one of my friends moms is the same thing my mom

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said.

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I knew.

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I know my baby boy or I know my baby girl.

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I feel like your parents know.

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Your parents especially they're so invested in your life.

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It seems like Machisse's mom was.

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Seems like that too.

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You pick up on the cues.

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You pick up on the cues.

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You know your kid.

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You know the cues.

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Love, eventually Matrice did obtain a Bachelor of Arts degree in psychology in 2008 from

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California State University Fullerton.

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Cool.

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That's a mouthful.

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And soon after the now 23 year old moves in with her great grandmother Mildred who is

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91 years old to look after her and just be there if she needed her.

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Yeah.

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Here we go.

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Matrice really out here.

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I know.

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She's like a well rounded woman.

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She really is.

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Like good for her.

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Matrice had some trouble looking for work at first so she started working at Santa Fe

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Spring Shipping Company owned by her friend's father doing clerical work and still made little

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to nothing.

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So she ended up getting a part time job as a dancer at a LGBTQ plus go-go dance club

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in Long Beach where she would adopt the stage name Hazel.

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Hey.

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Keep in mind too this wasn't like stripping.

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This was just a go-go dancer.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So she was just like dancing her little pretty self.

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She was like, I don't want to try and get me where it is because I know people all have

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listened to us but there is one club I'll just say in Michigan broadly don't know where

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it is.

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That is very much like that and that I've been to before.

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It's not a queer oriented like go-go dance club but it's like you could tell it's like

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a very funky kind of fun.

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It's kind of funky kind of fun.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's not like a strip club.

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Yeah.

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People are like yeah and they might get like a little loose or something.

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I've seen people like take off some layers but no one's ever you know fully just buns

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out guns out you know.

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I'm not gonna lie.

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Kalabanga.

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Hey.

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Long Beach.

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So at this point Matrice did not mind working the two different jobs.

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She was really happy.

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Had a stable income and she also was considering attending medical school to get her PhD in

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child psychology.

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Yes.

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She is killing this shit.

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I love this.

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Queen shit.

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Not long after this Matrice eventually found a forensic psychologist internship while

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still having her nightclub job while also doing beauty pageants and also doing her modeling

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shoots here and here and there.

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And from her family's perspective she seemed to be perfectly happy.

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Wow.

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She's doing that all.

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Although behind closed doors there was a lot going on between Matrice and Tessa's

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relationship so her then girlfriend.

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According to several different sources in the summer of 2009 Matrice grew intimate feelings

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for a regular at the Long Beach club she worked at and this girl's name was Vanessa.

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Oh not Vanessa.

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So the T on Vanessa is that T is that she already had a girlfriend and she made it very

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clear to Matrice that she was not interested but Matrice was very convinced that she could

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win her over.

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Okay Matrice.

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Okay Matrice.

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Not a good idea but.

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I don't say do that if someone says no.

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No they should probably say no.

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One evening after Matrice's shifts she gets into her car and drives six hours from Long

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Beach California to Las Vegas, Nevada to crash Vanessa's birthday party.

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Yeah.

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Six hours.

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She's crazy for Vanessa.

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When she did that Vanessa had no idea and literally just told Matrice I told you I wasn't

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interested please stay away from me.

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Yeah I mean I would too.

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Yeah I would too.

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But I couldn't imagine driving that far for someone I like and then saying that.

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I mean I guess in this instance I wouldn't.

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But she also told her no.

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Yeah I guess in this instance I would have said okay they said no in the first place.

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I wouldn't track them down.

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Yeah at that point it's like stalkery.

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It's stalkery and I guess she kind of got let off easy for that.

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Yeah because that's definitely like red flag.

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Love you Matrice.

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Yeah a little of red flag.

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Yeah definitely like a little much.

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Vanessa would later tell press that she found Matrice to be acting out of place that night

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and as if she was confused why Vanessa said what she had said.

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This did come to light and when it did Tessa decided to end their relationship to which

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Matrice was a little mad about but was not super bothered by and soon she had been invited

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to be a guest model at the Playboy Mansion's Summer Nights party in LA.

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Matrice sent back quick.

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So quickly her focus shifted to her career.

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Okay period she said break up other girl didn't want me Playboy Mansion.

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Playboy Mansion.

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Playboy Money.

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Is that easy?

508
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Apparently for pretty girls it is.

509
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Oh whatever oh my god I love that.

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I'm dead.

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It seems like this is when things really started to get weird for Matrice.

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Her family would start to recognize that she was drifting further and further away from

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them.

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She would never really answer her phone anymore and her mom would always recount getting out

515
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and cryptic messages from her daughter and sentences she couldn't understand.

516
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Yeah.

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Sorry I'm gonna get a little weird.

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Oftentimes when her mother Latrice would receive these messages asking if she was okay or if

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she needed help Matrice would reply quote you told me I could be anything I wanted.

520
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You told me I was Miss America.

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You told me I was America's next top model.

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Now you know what I want to be when I grow up?

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Miss Mother Nature.

524
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,880
Because Miss America is a fake ass joke along with everything else we see.

525
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,200
So I'm trying to find my way to Michelle Obama to see if she'll talk to Mr. Obama about my

526
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position in the White House.

527
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,320
Oh.

528
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Does it not make sense.

529
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I couldn't tell you what that means but what I can say is it seems very directive.

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Like I couldn't tell you why but like it seems like I don't know I seem to ask her

531
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mother I'd be obviously really worried because I'm like what is she talking about.

532
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The first part.

533
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The first part made sense.

534
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It seems like.

535
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And that seems like directed to her mom.

536
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To her mom as if like her mom did something wrong to her or something or portrayed her

537
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in some way.

538
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,560
So that's weird.

539
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,560
I don't know.

540
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,560
The Obama thing.

541
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:46,640
The Obama thing I yeah I don't know about that but.

542
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:54,200
This also was the era of MySpace so Matrice would make these long rambling posts on MySpace.

543
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,480
And based on the timestamps it was really clear that she would stay up all night long

544
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:04,080
typing out these long posts that made absolutely no sense to anybody.

545
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,080
MySpace.

546
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,080
I never had MySpace.

547
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,240
How I that's beyond my time.

548
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,480
Yeah I never had one.

549
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,480
I don't have that either.

550
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,680
I got a Facebook really late in the game.

551
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:20,280
I think MySpace for me like we're literally at your part so I guess when I first heard

552
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,880
about MySpace I wasn't really on like I was not allowed to have social media.

553
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,440
Yeah but I didn't have a phone or anything.

554
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,480
Yeah and then by the time I was able to have social media I was old enough to be on social

555
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,880
media and I just got an Instagram and I called it that.

556
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,600
And by the way her MySpace is actually still partially up and running but it just has old

557
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,560
photos of her and her coworkers at the night clubs or photos of her with Tessa.

558
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,280
I myself forget that MySpace is still running at all.

559
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,920
Yeah do people actually still like go on it every night?

560
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280
They do it's still a running thing.

561
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,760
People use it all the time.

562
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,440
I've never ever ever heard anybody say that they use their MySpace.

563
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,760
I don't think we'll hear it from our generation.

564
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,760
That's so thoughtful.

565
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,240
We might be some like hipster friend that would be like oh yeah.

566
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,560
Oh I love MySpace man.

567
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,200
Who's looking at your MySpace though?

568
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,200
That's my question.

569
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,200
I love MySpace.

570
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,160
I love how about MySpace we're not judging you we just want to know why.

571
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,240
I'm just curious is all.

572
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,840
Like only because like I feel like no one else is on it so like who's like looking at

573
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,840
it.

574
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,840
Let's bring MySpace back.

575
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,320
Let's make it like cool.

576
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,720
I personally I prefer MySpace over Facebook.

577
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,680
I don't even like Facebook anymore.

578
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,120
Like I don't even I don't know.

579
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:31,720
I am not a Facebook person.

580
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,000
I've like recently come to like Facebook but that's only because of like all the family

581
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,000
stuff and stuff.

582
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,000
I guess yeah same reasons yeah.

583
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,960
I don't like or share anything though unless it's like.

584
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,760
Oh no well I do share my cute pictures.

585
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,760
Yeah of course.

586
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,840
You guys can find me there if you want to look at my cute pictures but you can also find

587
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,840
the same ones on Instagram.

588
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,840
This is Kendall Hudson.

589
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Okay sorry moving on back to the story.

590
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:02,560
An example of a post that she shared on MySpace was on an investigation discovery docu-episode

591
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,760
saying quote have you ever woke up at 7 a.m. crying on a Saturday because now that you

592
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,960
see the light you see all the people lost in the dark welcome to my reality.

593
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:17,400
Oh that's very poetic but it's also very dark concerning concerning.

594
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,400
I'm scared.

595
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:25,600
It's very poetic though like it makes sense if you want to like dissect it.

596
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,520
But the posts are just told to get more and more bizarre and at this time she was about

597
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,520
24 years old.

598
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,040
Okay so like our age.

599
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,120
Yeah for like a brief reminder.

600
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:37,120
Yeah.

601
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:43,040
On September 15th 2009 Matrice makes a random stop at her aunt and uncle's house not too

602
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:48,120
far from her great-grandmother's house when her aunt recounts Matrice pulling up, getting

603
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:52,400
out of her car and throwing around little business cards with her stage name Hazel on

604
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,200
them and her information.

605
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,200
Interesting.

606
00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,600
Her aunt was very confused as she said.

607
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,040
Because she didn't really see Matrice a ton and now she's just like scattering her business

608
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:11,480
cards onto her lawn in her mailbox and into the bushes and her car and then she sees Matrice

609
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:17,920
write a note to her uncle in incoherent writing, kisses it with the lipstick she wore and places

610
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,480
it on his car's windshield.

611
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,280
So she's definitely having like a little.

612
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,280
A little.

613
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,280
Maybe like.

614
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:30,160
It's looking like to me from this point and again I'm not, I am not a psychologist.

615
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,000
I cannot you know.

616
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,600
We're self-diagnosing right now.

617
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,240
Yeah, pretty much but to me it's looking like an episode.

618
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,200
It's looking like an episode just from, I mean I have family members growing up that

619
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:50,080
were, that have shown like small amounts of like random tantrums or things like that and

620
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:55,000
I always question to myself like growing up like why are these family members doing what

621
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000
they do?

622
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,480
Why are they getting so crazy out of the sudden?

623
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,320
Why are they doing these random things?

624
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:06,200
Like throwing things against the wall and stuff and later to, to could later to kind

625
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,800
of find out it seems like it's mostly just bipolar disorder.

626
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,200
Sounds bipolar and like a manic episode.

627
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,200
Or a manic episode.

628
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,760
Yeah, it's definitely kind of what it sounds like.

629
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,760
It's definitely something.

630
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,760
It's leading towards that.

631
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,600
It's not like normal, yeah.

632
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Yeah.

633
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:28,160
So the next day on September 16th, 2009 Matrice tells her great-grandmother that she had plans

634
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,640
with some of her friends and she wasn't gonna come home for dinner that night.

635
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,720
Apparently Matrice and her great-grandmother always share dinner time together unless Matrice

636
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,240
had other plans or if she was working.

637
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:44,480
So her great-grandmother just says okay, have fun.

638
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,320
Matrice hops in her drop top.

639
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,320
No.

640
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:54,440
Matrice hops into her 1990, had a Civic and she drives from South LA to Malibu and according

641
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,160
to Google Maps that would be about an hour to an hour and a half drive.

642
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,600
But you know with traffic and I've heard LA traffic's fucking horrible.

643
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,600
It's pretty brutal.

644
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,280
It could be like two to three hours.

645
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:12,160
And something else that's important to make note of is Malibu is not what many think Malibu

646
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,160
is.

647
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,200
Malibu has a lot of nice big homes and beaches but they're mostly or for the most part are

648
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,960
very secluded and private.

649
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Most people that go to Malibu just go to get away from the busy life in LA so there's

650
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,320
really not that much to do.

651
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,560
That's what I see whenever I think of like Malibu.

652
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:36,680
I think of like some beaches and stuff like that but like if there's homes it's just like

653
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,160
they're all secluded because you know.

654
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,160
And they just want to get away.

655
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,160
Yeah.

656
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,160
Yeah.

657
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,160
A lot of acre.

658
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,640
Like a lot of acre of land from all the wealthy people.

659
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,560
The wealthy people with the money.

660
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,560
We'll get there one day.

661
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,560
On a podcast called and that's why we drink.

662
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,560
We love that podcast.

663
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,280
It's a great podcast.

664
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,920
They briefly mentioned that after Matrice's family later found out she was in Malibu they

665
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,040
knew she was interested in attending Pepperdine University in Malibu.

666
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,560
Oh I've always wanted to go to Pepperdine.

667
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,080
That was like one of my like.

668
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,080
Bro that's the Zoe 101.

669
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,280
It is isn't it.

670
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,280
I know you see.

671
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,560
Oh wait no that was Hannah Montana that I was just doing.

672
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,560
No that was kind of.

673
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Was the Zoe 101 or was it.

674
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,560
No it was Zoe 101 yeah.

675
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,560
No the thing that I was doing I think was Hannah Montana but I meant for Zoe 101.

676
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,560
Oh sorry.

677
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,560
It's Zoe 101 for sure.

678
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,560
Okay okay.

679
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,560
That's so cool.

680
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,560
If any people watch Amber Shull I love her she's so.

681
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,560
Amber Shull.

682
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,560
She's like a beauty.

683
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,560
Oh she does like true crime.

684
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:47,280
No no no she's like a beauty YouTuber I guess but she's known for her like broke bitch tips

685
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,280
so she.

686
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,280
Oh oh.

687
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,320
Had like no money when she first started and now she's like really successful and stuff

688
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,120
and she just creatures like be a bad bitch basically.

689
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,800
She's super great but anyway she went.

690
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,800
Be a bad bitch.

691
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,720
No that's like her whole brand she's so pretty too.

692
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:06,080
But she went to Pepperdine and she has like a tour on her YouTube of Pepperdine University

693
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,760
and it's so weird seeing it because it's literally Zoe 101.

694
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,760
Oh shit.

695
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,000
It seems like a class school to go to I'm not gonna lie.

696
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,200
Wait Quicks I know I'm so sorry to to tear so far away from this but um.

697
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:24,520
If anyone goes to any high rank schools let me know cause holy shit I want to know what

698
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,520
that's like.

699
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,520
I'm not like I don't know my lifetime.

700
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,520
Yeah I know.

701
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,920
I'm like cause me and my not very high rank school.

702
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,200
I was thinking about that the other day I was like I wonder if we have anyone that goes

703
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:42,680
to like UCLA or NYU that is just like oh I like this show a lot and we just don't know

704
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,680
that.

705
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,680
Korea I hope so.

706
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,680
We got some smart cuties out there.

707
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680
We got some smart queens and things out there.

708
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,680
Oh.

709
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,240
Um so yeah they knew that she was interested in attending Pepperdine University in Malbu

710
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:59,440
so they figured that maybe she went to visit the campus and get a tour.

711
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,440
Like a campus tour.

712
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,920
Yeah just thinking of anything at this point.

713
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:08,760
Other than that though they knew no real reason of why she'd want to go to Malbu all alone.

714
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,280
During that drive friends of hers also recounted receiving these erratic text messages from

715
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:20,280
Matrice that they couldn't understand and later on that same day so it was October 16, 2009

716
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,320
Matrice eventually does arrive in Malbu and she pulls into a high end restaurant called

717
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:33,240
Jeffries Geoffries Malbu off the Pacific Coast Highway which just random fact it just so

718
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,760
happens to be right down the street from Steven Spielberg's Malbu mansion.

719
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,760
Oh.

720
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,760
Okay Steven.

721
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Hey Steven.

722
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,760
Okay.

723
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,760
Yeah Kendall's a star.

724
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,760
Put him in.

725
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,760
I'm a star.

726
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,760
Hi.

727
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,760
Hi.

728
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Um so she drives up into the valley lot because she's bougie in her 1990s on the Civic.

729
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,760
Vintage.

730
00:30:54,760 --> 00:31:01,160
The valley man just started to leave one of his cars that he was sitting in waiting for

731
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,440
customers walks up and tells her one second ma'am well I parked the car in front of you.

732
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:12,040
When he gets back he finds Matrice in his passion to see rambling through his CD collection

733
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,040
in his car.

734
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,040
Oh okay.

735
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,040
When he asks um what you doing?

736
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,040
Matrice responds I'm here to avenge the death of Michael Jackson.

737
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,040
Okay.

738
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,040
Okay.

739
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,040
All right.

740
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Um so just like all of us.

741
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,240
All right.

742
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,520
He's a little confused and he responds what?

743
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,960
And she just responds and says it's subliminal.

744
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Oh.

745
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,960
Oh shit.

746
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,960
It's like artsy.

747
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:40,960
She is artsy.

748
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,960
She's artsy.

749
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,520
She's artsy for sure.

750
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Wow.

751
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,520
Subliminal.

752
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,280
That sounds like a very like tumblr.

753
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,320
That sounds so like early 2000s too.

754
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,720
Like I can see that in a movie like it's subliminal.

755
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,960
The valley was super chill about this.

756
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,760
He even gets in the car with her and politely asks her to step out and then she asks him

757
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,360
hey is Vanessa here?

758
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,520
Confused he says um no there isn't a Vanessa that I know of.

759
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,120
So she's so picking about Vanessa.

760
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,120
Yeah.

761
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,120
They both get out.

762
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,400
He goes inside, lets the workers know she's a little weird.

763
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600
There's something off about her so just like keep an eye out.

764
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,600
Watch out for her.

765
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:27,400
The restaurant is pretty accommodating and they say it's just cool to let her in and

766
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,160
we'll watch her and see what happens.

767
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,800
So Matrice does eventually walk into Jeffree's Malibu.

768
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,840
Jeffree's Malibu.

769
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,400
And she's seated at a table by herself and she orders an ocean breeze cocktail and a

770
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,400
Kobe steak dinner.

771
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,400
That sounds so good.

772
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,400
That sounds a good ass meal.

773
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,840
Oh I never ocean breeze Malibu in Malibu.

774
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,840
Ocean Breeze cocktail in Malibu.

775
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,840
Oh sorry.

776
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,840
Ocean Breeze cocktail in Malibu.

777
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,840
Yeah.

778
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,840
You could imagine what that tastes like.

779
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,480
That sounds amazing.

780
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,000
I'm starving right now too so anything sounds delicious.

781
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,560
Honestly I didn't eat dinner either.

782
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,640
No I didn't either.

783
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,400
After her drink comes she gets up and she walks over to a random table and she just invites

784
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
herself to sit.

785
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:17,080
There's not really a source that clarified this but it said that this was a table with

786
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,120
a couple of people sitting at it.

787
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,480
So a few people.

788
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,720
They all greet each other.

789
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,680
They're pretty nice and they ask her where she's from and she says I'm from Mars.

790
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,680
Okay.

791
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,680
I'm not.

792
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,680
Sister.

793
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,680
I don't know how you would respond.

794
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:42,560
I'm not very, I think personally I keep saying I.

795
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,560
I feel like I always say I.

796
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,040
I'm just relating to it I guess.

797
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,680
I feel like I'm not great at like, I love talking to people.

798
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,680
Don't get me wrong.

799
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,640
Well like when someone comes over to my table and says like when I'm at the coffee shop

800
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:02,120
and I'm researching, when I'm researching like one of our topics or something, I've had

801
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,000
times where like random people have come to just sit or like they'll be like can I just

802
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,680
sit like here, it's busy here or whatever and I get it like fine.

803
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,520
But like I'm just still awkward.

804
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,560
Like I am not a awkward person but when someone random comes up to me and just randomly bards

805
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,920
me out of nowhere and they're like hey I'm like oh hi.

806
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,920
I gotta like go off-scripts.

807
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:29,640
I'm not ready to talk to people.

808
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,280
So the people at this table weren't rude or anything but they're kind of just like okay

809
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,120
whatever and just playing along with the awkward moment.

810
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,320
I'm rude.

811
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,520
Yeah I'm rude too.

812
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,560
She starts talking about random topics like astrological signs with these people but they

813
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,800
aren't really understanding what she's saying because she's talking very quickly.

814
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,800
Okay fair.

815
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,680
I'd be into that, I'd be like so what sign are you?

816
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,680
I'm a Scorpio.

817
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,680
Who is it?

818
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,160
It's Ron, if you're listening to this, my friend Ron, he'll be like before you go on

819
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,560
the date or he'll be like after a date he'll be like so what's his sign?

820
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,360
And I'm like I didn't ask.

821
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,360
I don't know.

822
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,360
I forgot to ask.

823
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,120
I'm bitching you guys know I'm gonna figure that shit out before the date.

824
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,160
I always forget to ask that question.

825
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,120
I'm pretty sure I knew Simon's like pretty fast.

826
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Really?

827
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Fuck.

828
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,120
He's an Aquarius bitch.

829
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,480
I think I'm still like a novice right?

830
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Novice is too good right?

831
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,200
No novice is like new.

832
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,200
New.

833
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,200
Beginner.

834
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Yeah I'll say I'm a novice.

835
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,200
That's where I am.

836
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,200
No it's a humble beginner.

837
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,760
Humble beginner.

838
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,720
So the server comes over and asks are you all okay?

839
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:42,360
And they the server even offered the table a free drink because they knew that they let

840
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,760
this girl in and she was acting a little out of pocket so he was just trying to be like

841
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:53,360
hey guys you doing okay?

842
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,440
One guy at the table was saying she's bizarre but manageable.

843
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Me?

844
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,840
That's what everyone says about me.

845
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,200
She's bizarre but manageable.

846
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,200
Bizarre but manageable.

847
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,280
And she had seemed super friendly so no one found her like threatening or anything.

848
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,280
They just thought she was a little weird.

849
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,280
Yeah.

850
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:18,160
If anything they actually just found her entertaining so she eventually goes back to her table,

851
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,840
eats her meal and at that point though she's like still going back and forth between the

852
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,840
two tables.

853
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,840
Yeah.

854
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,040
She's like maybe she's taking a bite and then she's like hey.

855
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,040
Hey.

856
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,040
Hey.

857
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,600
How y'all doing over here?

858
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,200
Eventually that table does leave when they finish eating their meal and so does Matrice.

859
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,720
So she gets up and she heads for the door.

860
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,440
And she does, the manager runs up in front of her and blocks her from leaving to tell

861
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,360
her that she hasn't paid her bill.

862
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:52,920
Her bill added up to a whopping $89.51 and she tells the manager that she had figured

863
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,680
that the other table she sat with had paid her meal and the manager like literally stared

864
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,520
at her and told her no they didn't pay for your bill.

865
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,560
This is a Wendy's.

866
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,600
She then says well I'm busted what are we gonna do?

867
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,600
She just says that.

868
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,600
I'm busted.

869
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,600
I'm busted.

870
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,600
Oh wow.

871
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:18,600
I feel like we're like laughing a lot but it's more because it's very bizarre.

872
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:24,480
But obviously clearly this is like a, she's definitely mental crisis.

873
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,400
The situation that she's in to me isn't a laughing matter.

874
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,720
Like I don't, I think we understand that by now there is something going on.

875
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:34,720
Clearly wrong.

876
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,000
She's definitely going through like a mental break.

877
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,440
A mental break and something's happening.

878
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:44,520
Even if something isn't right with her it makes sense to, I mean make light of some

879
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,400
things that are coming out of the situation because you know when it comes to like the

880
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,360
small things like the guys and you know the people at the restaurant they seem really

881
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,360
nice about this kind of thing.

882
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,360
Where I feel like most people like kind of like-

883
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,880
What if like turned her down or asked her to leave?

884
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,720
Or asked her to leave or like been assholes and it seems like this whole situation like

885
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:07,560
everyone kind of really just wanted her to be a guest there and they didn't really want

886
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,560
to make a big situation of it.

887
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,720
Yeah they wanted to like you know help her I guess.

888
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,480
Yeah yeah definitely all sad.

889
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:20,880
Yeah definitely not a funny situation but you know giving the yeah the bizarre predicament

890
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,600
it can be like a laughing matter in my opinion.

891
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:31,280
The manager would later state that she did seem very out of it as if she wasn't a trans

892
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,280
like state.

893
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,800
She was speaking a lot of weird gibberish under her breath.

894
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,800
So the manager instructs one of the hosts to dial the police and the hostess tells the

895
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,120
operator we have a guest here that's refusing to pay her bill.

896
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,320
She sounds pretty crazy.

897
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,280
She may be on drugs or something.

898
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,000
We want you to come up here and give her a ride.

899
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,400
Not long after the call about probably like 10 minutes later the police arrive and they

900
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,440
ask her what's up what's going on.

901
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Tell us about yourself.

902
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,680
Like appeasing questions.

903
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,880
Yeah like just to calm her down.

904
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,800
Yeah just to like be at the good cop you want to make sure they don't go crazy on you.

905
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,000
She says my parents are dad my mother is mother earth and I live with my great grandmother

906
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,240
Mildred.

907
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:18,480
They say okay do you think you could give us a phone number to someone we could call

908
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,360
to help you out.

909
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,320
She does end up giving them her grandmother's phone number and when they get Mildred on

910
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:29,720
the phone they explain the situation to her and she's completely lost and confused at

911
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:34,360
this point because the whole time she thought Matrice was out with her friends in South

912
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,360
LA.

913
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,240
Yeah she wasn't far from home.

914
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:38,240
She was right down the street.

915
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:41,040
Yeah and she ended up in Malibu so she's like what the fuck.

916
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,560
Way far away from where she was supposed to be.

917
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,720
So the first thing Mildred wants to handle is on pay bill.

918
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:51,440
So she's like I'll go grab my card pay the bill over the phone but unfortunately the

919
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,200
manager says you can only pay in person because you have to sign for it.

920
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,560
So she tells the manager I don't think I can do that I'm 91 years old and I really shouldn't

921
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,640
drive that far at night.

922
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,200
The manager tells Mildred well the only other way to pay would be by faxing over your information

923
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,480
but Mildred didn't own a fax machine.

924
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,760
That really sucks it's like you're trying to solve this problem.

925
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,520
Yeah like she's trying her best.

926
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,920
She's like I will literally pay you.

927
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,440
Yeah this is not helping.

928
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,440
Let me pay you.

929
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,840
Give me my give me your like oh my god I'm sorry shit.

930
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,840
Take my money.

931
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,840
Take my money.

932
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,760
I'd be like forge my signature bitch you have my permission.

933
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,760
Yes.

934
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,760
How annoying.

935
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,800
I'm 91 years old and I drive my dad.

936
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,080
Yes he's literally an elderly woman like you're.

937
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,520
Yeah you're gonna make a drive up there to sign a piece of paper girl.

938
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Oh god.

939
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:43,920
Soon the LA city sheriff's department arrive and Mildred is still speaking to Matrice on

940
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,920
the phone.

941
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Mildred would later share that Matrice sounded very unbothered by the whole situation as

942
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,320
if it was fun or like funny.

943
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,280
That's what I was expecting.

944
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Matrice really worried her grandmother which I mean her great grandmother which as it should.

945
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,760
It would definitely worry me.

946
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,760
That's definitely.

947
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,760
Oh my god.

948
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,600
Some alarm bells that she thinks this is funny.

949
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,600
Yeah.

950
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,560
So Mildred calls up Matrice's mother Latrice and catches her up on all that the police

951
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:16,120
told her about while the police are giving Matrice a sobriety test which crazy enough

952
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,000
shows that she was very much indeed sober.

953
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,440
Police were surprised by this considering that when they went through her car, her Honda

954
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:31,520
Civic, they found three pints of alcohol, a case of beer and less than an ounce of marijuana

955
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,520
in the center console.

956
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Oh.

957
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:41,920
At that point they decided to impound her car but that's like probably what the like officers

958
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,280
or everyone was thinking at first is she's clearly on something.

959
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,280
Yeah.

960
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,320
But this just goes to show that she definitely was just having like a mental break like she

961
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,960
was definitely not on anything.

962
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,960
Yeah, definitely.

963
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,440
So they did end up arresting Matrice on grounds of defrauding an innkeeper which is basically

964
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,960
just like stealing without paying.

965
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:00,960
Yeah.

966
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,640
And marijuana possession for the less than an ounce of marijuana they found in the car.

967
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,640
I'm not surprised.

968
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,520
And at that point too it was illegal because it's 2009.

969
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,680
Unfortunately I guess.

970
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,680
2009.

971
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:21,080
Latrice calls the Malibu Lost Hills police station and asks the deputy if Matrice was

972
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,720
at their station and if they would be releasing her that day.

973
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:28,560
She stated that she was stressed and worried for her daughter's mental health and begged

974
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,000
them not to let her leave until she arrived the next morning.

975
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,120
The deputy assures Latrice that her daughter will remain in the holding cell until morning

976
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,760
and she can come get her then.

977
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:44,360
But unfortunately Latrice would never get that phone call from her daughter.

978
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,360
Matrice got to the station, got her mugshot and was placed into the holding cell.

979
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,480
I don't love that picture but here's a side by side.

980
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,480
Oh yeah.

981
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,120
She looks so pretty in the left one.

982
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,120
I know.

983
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,160
She definitely does look like she looks tired.

984
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:06,640
So we were just like looking at her mugshot picture and there's, I'll post this one to

985
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,040
her Instagram, the one that we're looking at right now is like a side by side photo

986
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,680
of Matrice.

987
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,680
She looks amazing.

988
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,680
Probably for her pageant.

989
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,960
Probably for her pageant or modeling shoot or something.

990
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,840
And then the other one is her mugshot and she looks like she is tired.

991
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,560
She doesn't look herself.

992
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,560
She's not there.

993
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,560
Yeah.

994
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,560
She doesn't look herself.

995
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,920
So I don't, that's blatantly clear.

996
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,560
So the deputy that took Latrice's call never informed the watch commander about the call

997
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:45,160
explaining that Matrice was not okay to leave the prison until her mother came to get her

998
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,360
and the deputy ended up going home.

999
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,920
So at this point, just to clarify, deputy was the one that received the call.

1000
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,120
Watch commander is the one watching over her.

1001
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:04,600
She goes home and does not tell the watch commander about the phone call.

1002
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,840
Big mistake.

1003
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,640
Very bad miscommunication.

1004
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,640
Yes.

1005
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,240
Definitely simple human error, but a big one.

1006
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,920
Couldn't go a long way.

1007
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:15,920
Yeah.

1008
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,280
Matrice didn't even know that her mom called worried and said she'd pick her up the next

1009
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,360
day.

1010
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:26,280
So around 1230 AM, the watch commander lets Matrice out of her cell and tells her you

1011
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,760
can either stay in the lobby until morning or you can leave.

1012
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,760
It's times like this.

1013
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:36,280
I wish I could just go back in time and be there to be like, Hey, no, don't do that.

1014
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,280
Please.

1015
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,280
Don't let her leave.

1016
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,280
Let her stay, please.

1017
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,280
Her mom will be here in the morning.

1018
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,280
It's okay.

1019
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,160
Matrice asked to make a phone call to her friend.

1020
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,880
Then after she tells the watch commander she was leaving and that her friend will come

1021
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,880
get her.

1022
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,280
So Matrice walked out of the station into the night.

1023
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,280
This is midnight, by the way.

1024
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,000
1230 AM.

1025
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,680
Her car was impounded 12 miles away from the station and the deputies wouldn't give her

1026
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,440
ride to her car and just keep in mind that Malbu is very rural.

1027
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,680
So she's just like wandering at that point.

1028
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,680
That's so fucking messed up.

1029
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320
I can't believe that the deputies didn't even.

1030
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:20,440
But you know why it's crazy is that I think, I don't know where I like when I heard about

1031
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,320
this case the first time, one of the interviews had connected it to Mel Gibson in the area

1032
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,960
because apparently he has a house in Malibu.

1033
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,800
And I think they were saying that like, it's ironic that they don't want to give her a ride.

1034
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,520
Yeah, they would give Mel Gibson a ride to his car when he had the same like problem

1035
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,080
when he was drunk or something and they just gave him a ride.

1036
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Like privilege.

1037
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:49,560
At 535 AM, Latrice calls the station first thing to a range bail.

1038
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:55,640
But police tell her that Matrice is free to go around midnight 30.

1039
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,080
Latrice is freaking out.

1040
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,920
She hangs up and then she calls back asking if she can file a missing persons report right

1041
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,920
away.

1042
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,840
But the deputy advises that she wait a couple hours because she might turn up.

1043
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,840
No.

1044
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,560
I hate when I do that.

1045
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,560
So stupid.

1046
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,560
Don't wait.

1047
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,560
Don't wait.

1048
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,080
Like literally makes things so much worse.

1049
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,760
I think they say this at morbid over exaggerate.

1050
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,480
Like, don't do the least amount.

1051
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,560
Like even with police, whether it's police officers, whether you see something that you

1052
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,280
think is like happening like over exaggerate.

1053
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,360
If you think something is wrong, like.

1054
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,440
Yeah, make it sound so much more worse.

1055
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,160
More worse than it is because.

1056
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Or else they're going to.

1057
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,560
It's too late.

1058
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,520
It takes a minute for something to happen to somebody.

1059
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,680
The first 24 hours are literally the most crucial in a missing person too.

1060
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,600
Because the fact that they're telling her to wait a couple hours.

1061
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,840
Stupid.

1062
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:56,240
An hour later, a former news anchor Bill Smith calls the station six miles away in Montenito,

1063
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:01,160
Montenito, telling police that there was a black female wearing a black top and blue

1064
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,360
jeans about five five laying on his porch.

1065
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,400
When he asked her if she was okay, she responded just resting.

1066
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,400
Oh, oh my heart.

1067
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,560
I just got let out of midnight.

1068
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,560
I was going to cry.

1069
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,840
I was like, yeah, I feel bad for her because it's like 24.

1070
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:23,400
And then like I just think about like people I know myself, like I was alone and I was

1071
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:30,480
having troubles like and this again, this goes beyond just like her having another mental

1072
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,320
like a mental breakdown or something like this goes beyond in anything that goes on

1073
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,520
within your body.

1074
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,100
Like when you are neglected because the police doesn't want to help you or like keep you

1075
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:47,580
even like safe from going outside at 12, 30 in the morning, I couldn't imagine.

1076
00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:49,740
Like, I would be terrified.

1077
00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:51,940
Like put it, put it, P, P of the real quick.

1078
00:47:51,940 --> 00:47:56,700
If let's say you go somewhere, let's say you go to some foreign state or

1079
00:47:56,700 --> 00:47:58,300
country you've never been to before.

1080
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:06,820
It's like, imagine if you're in both fuck nowhere and you've been arrested.

1081
00:48:06,820 --> 00:48:11,100
Let's say you've been arrested for, you know, being drunk and being loud in

1082
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:12,380
the street or some who knows.

1083
00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:13,620
And you get arrested.

1084
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:15,260
You're at the station.

1085
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:19,260
They let you go in the middle of the night and you have no way of getting home.

1086
00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:19,940
You don't have your car.

1087
00:48:19,940 --> 00:48:20,900
You don't have your car.

1088
00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:22,940
Your stuff is all in your car.

1089
00:48:22,940 --> 00:48:23,540
Midnight.

1090
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:24,500
And it's midnight.

1091
00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:26,260
Like what the fuck do you do?

1092
00:48:26,780 --> 00:48:29,820
Or why would you even let people, it's just so frustrating.

1093
00:48:29,820 --> 00:48:36,820
But it's interesting though that, cause in a case like that, I would stay in the lobby.

1094
00:48:36,820 --> 00:48:37,340
Yeah.

1095
00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:39,740
Interesting that she would want to leave.

1096
00:48:39,740 --> 00:48:43,740
Mindset was still not clear because she left.

1097
00:48:44,420 --> 00:48:47,020
Clearly like, I feel like most people would have stayed.

1098
00:48:47,020 --> 00:48:49,180
She stayed there if they had the option.

1099
00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:49,620
Yeah.

1100
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:51,140
But that's the thing that sucks.

1101
00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:56,460
It's just that like, I know that the person that was doing, yeah, it's not her fault,

1102
00:48:56,460 --> 00:49:02,220
but I also know the person, I guess, quote unquote, that didn't know that she needed to be let out.

1103
00:49:02,220 --> 00:49:03,860
Like she kept, she had to stay there.

1104
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:06,780
Which is let her go in the middle of the night anyways.

1105
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:08,100
Like why that time though?

1106
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:09,220
Yeah, that is really random.

1107
00:49:09,220 --> 00:49:11,940
But it's also like not necessarily their fault.

1108
00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:12,940
Cause we don't know.

1109
00:49:12,940 --> 00:49:13,500
Yeah.

1110
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:16,740
I guess miscommunication though, I think is definitely something.

1111
00:49:16,740 --> 00:49:17,420
Like fuck everything up.

1112
00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:17,940
Yeah.

1113
00:49:18,140 --> 00:49:19,260
Gotta be careful about.

1114
00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:19,780
Yeah.

1115
00:49:21,020 --> 00:49:24,380
So just a reminder, she's laying on this man's porch.

1116
00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:30,540
She tells him that she's just resting and it took Malibu police three hours to show up on scene.

1117
00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:31,740
See that, there you go.

1118
00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:38,620
By the time they came, she was long gone because she left minutes after the police were called.

1119
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:42,500
And sadly, this was probably the last sighting of her life.

1120
00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:52,580
Two days passed and police decided to start a search for Matrice after Latrice had repeatedly called the station multiple times.

1121
00:49:52,580 --> 00:49:56,260
The matter was handed to LAPD's missing persons unit.

1122
00:49:56,580 --> 00:50:02,100
And they did find she prints similar to the ones Matrice wore that night when she left the station.

1123
00:50:03,580 --> 00:50:09,980
The prints appeared to be walking then running into Malibu canyon, which they chose not to inspect.

1124
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:11,500
Okay.

1125
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:21,500
After a couple days, there were still no leads and the LAPD missing persons unit eventually hands over the case to LAPD homicide unit.

1126
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:30,500
The homicide unit gathered all of her latest social media account posts and text messages to deem that prior to a disappearance,

1127
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:36,500
Matrice Richardson had been sleep deprived for multiple days, considering what they ranked up.

1128
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:40,500
It seemed that she would write about a hundred lengthy posts a day.

1129
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:42,500
So just back to back.

1130
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:44,500
Making her stay on social media.

1131
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:51,500
My psychologist also looked into her case and shared that Matrice had most likely suffered from undiagnosed bipolar disorder.

1132
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:53,500
So what we were thinking.

1133
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:59,500
Investigators did find her phone, keys, wallet and her ID in her car.

1134
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:05,500
And she also had $2,000 in her bank account.

1135
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:07,500
So I mean she had enough.

1136
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:10,500
Yeah, she was able to pay the bill.

1137
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:11,500
That's so weird though.

1138
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:14,500
It's like even, see that's the thing.

1139
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:16,500
Again, I'm not a psychologist.

1140
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:20,500
I can't diagnose anyone the right way or the wrong way, whatever.

1141
00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:21,500
I can't do anything.

1142
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:24,500
I can't say anything, but what I can say is maybe my opinion.

1143
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:29,500
And I think that in that case where she was at the restaurant, she had money.

1144
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:32,500
She had $2,000 sitting in her bank account.

1145
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:34,500
She had money to cover that.

1146
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:38,500
And it's like, why put yourself through that if you could have just resolved it.

1147
00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:41,500
So that's what I always wonder.

1148
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:47,500
I'm like, what plays into someone's psyche versus something that should just be there and known.

1149
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:50,500
Like if you have that, get yourself out of that situation.

1150
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:53,500
Don't be yourself deeper in it and then get yourself arrested.

1151
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:55,500
She would have avoided all of this.

1152
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:56,500
All of that.

1153
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:58,500
So I'm like so skeptical.

1154
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:00,500
I'm like, why would she put herself through all of that?

1155
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:03,500
Like she could have just been on her way.

1156
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:04,500
Yeah.

1157
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:06,500
I mean, maybe not with the marijuana possession, but.

1158
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:07,500
Yeah, true.

1159
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:09,500
Oh, okay.

1160
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:15,500
When the investigators checked her phone records at the station to see who she called to pick her up.

1161
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:21,500
She called her grandmother four times, but Miljord would later admit that she may have been asleep.

1162
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:25,500
But if she heard her phone ring, knowing her great-granddaughter was in trouble, she would have answered it.

1163
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:26,500
Okay.

1164
00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:28,500
That was gross, probably napping.

1165
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:36,500
LAPD, a homicide unit, were confused as to why Malbu Sheriff's office just let someone with potential mental illness walk free,

1166
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:37,500
with no money.

1167
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:38,500
That's what I'm saying.

1168
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:41,500
Phone, transportation, or ID.

1169
00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:46,500
I mean, in reality, it was like not the person, the watch commander's fault, letting her go.

1170
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:52,500
It was definitely the deputy that answered that phone call that promised that he would let the mother know.

1171
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:58,500
Yes, it's not the watch commander's fault in the sense of like, they didn't know that the mom called her.

1172
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:00,500
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1173
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:09,500
But this is like a good point. LAPD, homicide unit, made a good point of like, they knew that she had mental illness.

1174
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:10,500
Yes, yeah.

1175
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:12,500
And I'm assuming the watch commander would know that.

1176
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:13,500
Would know that.

1177
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:17,500
There would have to be some type of like meeting before they leave, right, where it would come up.

1178
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:18,500
Yeah.

1179
00:53:18,500 --> 00:53:19,500
Like a sign off.

1180
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:20,500
Yeah.

1181
00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:29,500
The main thing about this case too that I know of is that, is that they did not, and from what I like, just notice about this case is that they did not do full.

1182
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:35,500
Like reports like they should normally, like they didn't do correct investigations.

1183
00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:40,500
They didn't. I think when you're supposed to log everything, that's the officer, right? If I'm not mistaken.

1184
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:42,500
And I think they just missed everything.

1185
00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:43,500
Like.

1186
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:53,500
Okay, but wait, because in response to that, in response to, you know, LAPD being like, what the fuck y'all doing?

1187
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:54,500
Yeah.

1188
00:53:54,500 --> 00:54:02,500
To MailBoo Sheriff's Office, they said that she showed no signs of mental illness or intoxication.

1189
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:04,500
She was fine and she's an adult.

1190
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:08,500
Oh, they said shut the fuck up.

1191
00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:11,500
And that sounds more of like a cop out.

1192
00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:14,500
Like they were like, she was fine.

1193
00:54:14,500 --> 00:54:15,500
She looked fine.

1194
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:16,500
She looked fine to me.

1195
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:17,500
Yeah.

1196
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:18,500
Whatever.

1197
00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:28,500
It was also questionable, that was a questionable response because the CCTV footage facing her cell shows her shaking the cell bars.

1198
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:29,500
Like she wants to get out probably.

1199
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:30,500
See, yeah.

1200
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:31,500
Okay.

1201
00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:34,500
Like, it's all laid out for you.

1202
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:47,500
So at this point, I believe this is like 10 days later now, on September 29, 2009, the board of supervisors approved a $10,000 reward for anyone that had any information

1203
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:51,500
of Matrice's disappearance, but nothing came about it.

1204
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:54,500
Instantly, this case became very big.

1205
00:54:54,500 --> 00:55:03,500
Matrice appeared on the cover of People Magazine in November 2009, and media outlets from all over were just like attacking this case and eating it up.

1206
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:12,500
The LAPD conducted months and months of search parties, as well as her own family in the area, and they found absolutely nothing.

1207
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:19,500
There was a sighting in Las Vegas, but it wasn't her, and the case sadly ended up going cold.

1208
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:21,500
We're starting to go cold.

1209
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:23,500
I thought the cold hit me for even sadder cold.

1210
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:24,500
Yeah, no kidding.

1211
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:31,500
On August 9, 2010, so about a year later, state park rangers in a remote part of Malbu Canyon,

1212
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:39,500
AKA that dark canyon where the police initially skipped over during their first search because they didn't feel the need to,

1213
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:44,500
came across mummified human skeletal remains.

1214
00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:53,500
The skull was found separated from the spine and about two miles away from where the former news anchor reported the woman on his porch.

1215
00:55:53,500 --> 00:56:00,500
So essentially, for the skull to be separated from the spine is insane.

1216
00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:08,500
And it was only two miles away from that guy's porch, which means she ran, walked and ran.

1217
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:09,500
It was suspicious.

1218
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:18,500
Well, like, when they first tracked her whereabouts, they tracked the prints, and they were like walking and then running,

1219
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:22,500
and they went into that, um, the Malbu Canyon.

1220
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:27,500
That's weird, though, that they didn't decide to track into it.

1221
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:32,500
But the thing is, is what I'm trying to say is that was only two miles away from the porch.

1222
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:35,500
So two miles is not that much of a walk.

1223
00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:36,500
Oh, that isn't.

1224
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:37,500
No, it's not.

1225
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:38,500
It is like a kind of long distance.

1226
00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:43,500
But like, if you're looking at it the way, like, if you're looking for help or something like that,

1227
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:48,500
or if you're walking to find something, I feel like two miles can be quick like that.

1228
00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:55,500
But it's the fact that she probably ended up like passing away shortly after she left.

1229
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:56,500
Oh, no doubt.

1230
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:59,500
I think she, I guess we don't know.

1231
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:00,500
Like those two miles.

1232
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:02,500
Yeah, I was gonna say I guess we don't know.

1233
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:07,500
But I think that she's like walking and running, and then, I mean, she just hears,

1234
00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:12,500
I feel like she wouldn't have stayed in the canyon for that long for her to have been like.

1235
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:17,500
She probably would have just stayed where she was, if anything, if she really just wanted to sleep or rest.

1236
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:19,500
Like why would she leave?

1237
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:20,500
I feel like.

1238
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:22,500
Well the cops are called, so maybe she was just trying to find somewhere else.

1239
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:23,500
Yeah.

1240
00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:28,500
But it's just the fact that it was literally shortly after she left the guys porch,

1241
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:33,500
and then she ran and walked two miles away into the Grand Air then.

1242
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:34,500
This is a whole year after that.

1243
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:35,500
Holy shit.

1244
00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:36,500
And that they found her.

1245
00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:37,500
Yeah.

1246
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:38,500
Yes.

1247
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:44,500
And to be honest, I mean, for her spine to be separated from her skull.

1248
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:45,500
From her skull?

1249
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:46,500
That would mean.

1250
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:47,500
That's not normal.

1251
00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:51,500
That's, yeah, that would be like foul player if she like.

1252
00:57:51,500 --> 00:57:52,500
Yeah.

1253
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:54,500
Really badly injured herself.

1254
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:55,500
Like if she fell.

1255
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:57,500
She would have to do some hard stuff.

1256
00:57:57,500 --> 00:58:00,500
I think that would have to be like a fluke of falling.

1257
00:58:00,500 --> 00:58:03,500
I don't think your body would just like fucking explode like that.

1258
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:04,500
No.

1259
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:05,500
Like your head.

1260
00:58:05,500 --> 00:58:06,500
It would take a lot of force.

1261
00:58:06,500 --> 00:58:07,500
That's scary.

1262
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:08,500
Yeah, that's not scary.

1263
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:09,500
I'm questioning.

1264
00:58:09,500 --> 00:58:16,500
So if you guys can guess that body was positively identified as the remains of Matrice Richardson.

1265
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:24,500
And the disappearance led to obviously a lot of questions and outcry before and after Matrice's remains were even found.

1266
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:28,500
The Richards Richardson family fights to this very day.

1267
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:31,500
Very, very hard to have justice for their daughter's death.

1268
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:36,500
And how the Malibu Sheriff deputies handled her arrest and the middle of the night release to this day.

1269
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:37,500
Amen.

1270
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:38,500
As they should.

1271
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:47,500
According to Los Angeles Times, the county's then office of independent review concluded in a report that deputies at the Malibu Lost Hill Station

1272
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:53,500
acted appropriately the night Richardson was released and gave her the chance to say voluntarily.

1273
00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:58,500
They had no legal justification, the report said, to deprive her of her freedom.

1274
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:01,500
Again, fair.

1275
00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:07,500
It's like a fair statement, but it's also like how the fuck did you guys not see that something was clearly off with.

1276
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:08,500
That is just the bug.

1277
00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:18,500
Also, where was the disconnect of like, we have a lady here who's like freaking out and she's very clearly on drugs or mentally ill.

1278
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:20,500
You guys need to come pick her up.

1279
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:21,500
Yeah.

1280
00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:28,500
So they come pick her up and arrest her and then they're like, oh, she left behind me.

1281
00:59:28,500 --> 00:59:31,500
She was, no, she was not fine.

1282
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:35,500
Did they not did the restaurant like not tell you, I know for sure.

1283
00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:37,500
Yeah, she was saying all this weird stuff.

1284
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:38,500
She like did this.

1285
00:59:38,500 --> 00:59:41,500
She went over and told the people that she's from Mars.

1286
00:59:41,500 --> 00:59:45,500
Like, where was that disconnect of like, oh, we didn't know.

1287
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:47,500
I don't know this is sweet either.

1288
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:51,500
So I was afraid to put this up before because please don't come for me.

1289
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:54,500
Please for throwing out allegations, but not fact allegations.

1290
00:59:54,500 --> 00:59:56,500
Like, yeah, allegation.

1291
00:59:56,500 --> 01:00:06,500
This is just solely from what I saw speculation on the internet, but I saw some speculation that reportedly and they didn't report this down or anything.

1292
01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:19,500
But apparently some say that the police have went back to the restaurant that they got her from before she was found and they tried to make it seem like she was going crazy or something.

1293
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:24,500
I have been an episode more than she actually was and they said that they wouldn't do that.

1294
01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:27,500
So I'm not saying that that happened.

1295
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:33,500
I'm not saying it didn't happen, but that's something I saw and it kind of like got my attention.

1296
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:36,500
Yeah.

1297
01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:48,500
Matrice's mom, her family and many supporters still believe that there was fall play and that the police covered up whatever happened.

1298
01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:49,500
Maybe it would have happened.

1299
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:50,500
Yeah.

1300
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:53,500
Although the LAPD has denied there being any fall play.

1301
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:59,500
Although who knows because the manner of death was never determined by LA County's coroner's office.

1302
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:08,500
But what they can identify like death from like thousands of years ago and they can't identify her as yeah, hers is just...

1303
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:10,500
We don't know.

1304
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:11,500
I doubt that.

1305
01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:13,500
I doubt that.

1306
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:19,500
In 2011, the Richardson family got a little bit of justice as much as they fucking could.

1307
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:24,500
They sued the county and they received a settlement of about $900,000.

1308
01:01:24,500 --> 01:01:25,500
Okay.

1309
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:27,500
Can't bring her back, but...

1310
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:29,500
You know.

1311
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:32,500
You know you made a dent in the justice system a little bit.

1312
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:33,500
Yeah.

1313
01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:34,500
Hopefully.

1314
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:36,500
About paying bills and general expenses.

1315
01:01:36,500 --> 01:01:37,500
Yeah, hopefully.

1316
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:39,500
And free and all fees and all.

1317
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:43,500
The case is currently an open case, although cold.

1318
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:58,500
And more recently in March of 2022, so like last year, the LA County Board of Supervisors raised an extended reward of $20,000 for any information leading to their arrest and conviction of anyone responsible for Matrice's death.

1319
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:01,500
But that is all.

1320
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:05,500
That is the mysterious disappearance and death of Matrice Richardson.

1321
01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:06,500
Good job.

1322
01:02:06,500 --> 01:02:07,500
That was a really good job.

1323
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:08,500
So proud of you.

1324
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:10,500
That case...

1325
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:11,500
Oh boy.

1326
01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:16,500
Clearly, I always have to share my thoughts.

1327
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:22,500
I personally believe that she definitely was in like a manic episode.

1328
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:28,500
She ran her happy ass away from the guy's porch because he called the cops.

1329
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:31,500
So she was scared that she didn't want to get arrested again.

1330
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:36,500
She ran to the canyon where she fell.

1331
01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:37,500
Like that's...

1332
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:38,500
That's your theory?

1333
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:40,500
I think it was just like a simple shot.

1334
01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:42,500
She may have accidentally fell or something.

1335
01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:48,500
Like she fell and maybe she fucking hit a rock on the way down in the wrong spot.

1336
01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:51,500
Because I mean that spot like in between your spinal cord.

1337
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:53,500
So maybe she fell backwards or something.

1338
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:58,500
Yeah, like I'm pretty sure if you hit it hard enough like it can cause some type of separation or something.

1339
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:23,500
Yeah, one part about... I guess the hardest part about reporting true crime is that it's very hard to acquire autopsy reports or not that I would want to look at them but like even photos really understand like the placement and stuff because I feel like one thing is hard to figure out to me is what position was she found in.

1340
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:34,500
Like she may have been in a canyon but was she found like under like a couple levels of like SSG that fell or did she like was it right on the surface level?

1341
01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:36,500
Like she was just there and found.

1342
01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:37,500
So that's also weird.

1343
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:41,500
My opinion would change if she was found depending on where she's found.

1344
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:43,500
From what it sounds like.

1345
01:03:43,500 --> 01:03:45,500
Like that's the only thing I can think of.

1346
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:54,500
But I mean clearly if they found her like at the entrance or surface level where clearly she probably wouldn't have felt and I would think that there is some type of foul play.

1347
01:03:54,500 --> 01:03:56,500
But it also seems like random.

1348
01:03:56,500 --> 01:04:01,500
The last thing and I'm not just saying like I want to believe it because I love the conspiracies.

1349
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:06,500
I really don't want to believe that the police could be capable of covering up things.

1350
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:13,500
I'm not saying that it hasn't happened in the past because we all know what officials to be capable of.

1351
01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:14,500
No kidding.

1352
01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:16,500
I don't want to believe it.

1353
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:19,500
If that was the case and I'm saying it is again.

1354
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:22,500
I'm not throwing that out there and saying this was the case.

1355
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:24,500
But if it were to be the case.

1356
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:30,500
I could see it in the light that the police knew that they weren't supposed to let her go.

1357
01:04:30,500 --> 01:04:32,500
And after they had let her go.

1358
01:04:32,500 --> 01:04:36,500
I think maybe they knew that she wasn't coming back or something.

1359
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:37,500
I don't say that.

1360
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:46,500
I honestly don't think they did anything to her physically but I could believe that they may have known that she was just gone and they may have looked for her.

1361
01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:53,500
I feel like it's just crazy to think though because like you said there were so many search parties and no one found her for all that time.

1362
01:04:53,500 --> 01:05:01,500
But it's still a little shady to me because when you have mentioned the part where they saw the footsteps leading up to it.

1363
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:02,500
That's what I look at.

1364
01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:03,500
And then decided not to look into it.

1365
01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:04,500
They didn't investigate.

1366
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:05,500
Investigate that area.

1367
01:05:05,500 --> 01:05:11,500
How would you just be like oh those are her footprints and then be like oh we're not going to follow those.

1368
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:13,500
And then Park Rangers find her a year later.

1369
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:20,500
So that's what's really just weird to me that somehow that one area just decided to get overlooked.

1370
01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:23,500
And then you know what Park Rangers found her.

1371
01:05:23,500 --> 01:05:33,500
So then that does have me thinking that she would have probably fallen or she was in a hidden spot because a year later and Park Rangers found her.

1372
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:35,500
Park Rangers found her.

1373
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:40,500
You would think that if she was in an obvious spot or noticeable spot that like passerbyers would have found her.

1374
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:50,500
But nevertheless what an interesting just case because it just comes to show like you really have to again if you see someone in your family or friends.

1375
01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:58,500
Anyone that's around you or associates that are having a manic episode or something and just because they're not diagnosed with something doesn't mean they don't have it.

1376
01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:10,500
They just may not be diagnosed yet or you know if even you you're having really sour thoughts all of a sudden because I think there's a there's a if I'm not wrong about this.

1377
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:21,500
If I'm not wrong I believe that it's shown to be that when you have bipolar disorder sometimes it doesn't show until your early 20s.

1378
01:06:21,500 --> 01:06:22,500
Yeah.

1379
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:26,500
So maybe she was 24 so maybe it was just starting the show.

1380
01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:29,500
And that was what was happening.

1381
01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:40,500
I think it's kind of started showing with I mean that makes a lot of sense the whole Vanessa thing kind of showed there because when you said that she was at the ballet part she was like is Vanessa.

1382
01:06:40,500 --> 01:06:41,500
Yeah it's Vanessa here.

1383
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:47,500
I think she was still kind of like struggling about the Vanessa thing even though it seemed like maybe she wasn't.

1384
01:06:47,500 --> 01:06:57,500
That's very much definitely I agree with you there because that is something that someone with diagnosed bipolar disorder.

1385
01:06:57,500 --> 01:07:02,500
I was gonna say something sparks it something like impulsive.

1386
01:07:02,500 --> 01:07:06,500
Yeah acting on your thoughts and something it wraps inside of you taking.

1387
01:07:06,500 --> 01:07:07,500
Yeah exactly.

1388
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:24,500
Like she really was like I'm gonna drive six hours and Vanessa is gonna be so happy to see me and just like a distorted view on reality where I was like we would be like if I were to drive six hours and go surprise her like she probably think I'm crazy.

1389
01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:25,500
I can't do that.

1390
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:26,500
Like she'd think I'm crazy.

1391
01:07:26,500 --> 01:07:27,500
I'd ruin everything.

1392
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:28,500
Yeah.

1393
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:29,500
Like ruining any chance I have.

1394
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:30,500
Yeah I can't go.

1395
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:36,500
Things like yeah that makes total sense and again we're not diagnosing her.

1396
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:39,500
I mean they weren't unfortunately weren't able to in time.

1397
01:07:39,500 --> 01:07:46,500
I mean the psychologist did say they did say they figured that this was the case and I mean it really sounds to me personally.

1398
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:49,500
Yeah yeah yeah I'd be self diagnosed and people all the time.

1399
01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:51,500
I yeah it's really to do that.

1400
01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:52,500
It's so easy to do that.

1401
01:07:52,500 --> 01:07:58,500
I feel bad sometimes by doing that but it's truly simple here because I feel like we have a psychologist to back us up.

1402
01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:00,500
Yeah I mean it's really textbook though.

1403
01:08:00,500 --> 01:08:02,500
Like I'm not gonna lie.

1404
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:03,500
No you're right.

1405
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:05,500
No you're definitely right about that.

1406
01:08:05,500 --> 01:08:09,500
And the way she was acting definitely sounds very textbook to me.

1407
01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:13,500
Her death is a fucking mystery.

1408
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:17,500
I mean I think that she probably just fell but like who the fuck knows.

1409
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:20,500
Her spine was her head was just so beautiful.

1410
01:08:20,500 --> 01:08:21,500
It's so weird to me though.

1411
01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:28,500
I just can't wrap my head around it because I'm like I don't like when people I guess when I'm looking at it I'm not on the outside looking at it.

1412
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:37,500
I always get like kind of mad because I'm like when people die or something and they were like oh well they were you know bipolar and stuff like that.

1413
01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:47,500
I feel like someone has knowledge of knowing before they die but it was late too so I'm like I'm thinking if you know like you said like if she slept and I think like.

1414
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:50,500
Yeah I don't think like she fell because she's bipolar.

1415
01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:51,500
Oh yeah yeah yeah.

1416
01:08:51,500 --> 01:08:52,500
She just fell because she fell.

1417
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:54,500
Yeah because she fell and it was late.

1418
01:08:54,500 --> 01:08:55,500
It was late that night.

1419
01:08:55,500 --> 01:09:01,500
Yeah because it was she got let out at 12 30 and then I think it was 5 30.

1420
01:09:01,500 --> 01:09:03,500
It was 5 something.

1421
01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:07,500
It was really early in the morning so maybe it's not dark but like she's fucking tired.

1422
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:08,500
She's sleep deprived.

1423
01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:09,500
It's that she hadn't slept in three days.

1424
01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:11,500
Yeah she might have slept in just.

1425
01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:13,500
Yeah like she's disoriented because she's tired.

1426
01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:14,500
Yeah.

1427
01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:20,500
I just so wish the I don't know I just wish it was handled in a different way.

1428
01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:23,500
I think this case this case could have been completely.

1429
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:24,500
So much better.

1430
01:09:24,500 --> 01:09:28,500
So the truth could have been alive today had they dealt with this situation in a different

1431
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:34,500
way had they have not you know made her feel like some kind of like.

1432
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:41,500
Crazy criminal and crazy person like what the way they kind of like didn't and again

1433
01:09:41,500 --> 01:09:46,500
it just comes back to like that one little thing like had the had the officer that got

1434
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:51,500
that call just told the other person because they know they're not going to be there all

1435
01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:52,500
night.

1436
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:53,500
That was like the domino effect.

1437
01:09:53,500 --> 01:09:54,500
Yeah.

1438
01:09:54,500 --> 01:09:59,500
The real domino effect would have been like Matrice deciding not to pay when she cut off.

1439
01:09:59,500 --> 01:10:00,500
Yeah.

1440
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:01,500
Like clearly altered mind state.

1441
01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:02,500
Yeah.

1442
01:10:02,500 --> 01:10:05,500
So the real reason this all starts is because of that like you were saying.

1443
01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:06,500
Yeah.

1444
01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:07,500
It just didn't get communicated.

1445
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:11,500
The communication was off and I feel so bad because her mom really seemed like.

1446
01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:12,500
She cared.

1447
01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:13,500
She knew.

1448
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:17,300
Like her mom knew and she cared and her mom was like I'm worried about my daughter and

1449
01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:19,100
I really feel like something's off about her.

1450
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:21,500
I really need to make sure she's going to be okay there.

1451
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,500
I'd be interested.

1452
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:27,500
I'm sure it's out there somewhere but if like bipolar or mental illness runs in her family.

1453
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:29,500
That's a good question.

1454
01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:30,500
I do wonder that.

1455
01:10:30,500 --> 01:10:31,500
Wow.

1456
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:32,500
If anyone knows let us know.

1457
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:33,500
Yeah.

1458
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:34,500
Let us know.

1459
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:42,100
But again that was what a great what a great case to just share to everyone and I hope this

1460
01:10:42,100 --> 01:10:46,500
also neatly wraps up the month for us.

1461
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:50,500
I think we did a good job this time around.

1462
01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:53,500
Our again our 30th episode is coming up soon.

1463
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:56,500
I have been working 30 30 30.

1464
01:10:56,500 --> 01:11:01,500
I've been working on some some cute things lately for us behind the behind the scenes.

1465
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:03,500
Bree doesn't really know about them yet either.

1466
01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:06,500
We're going to talk about that after the show though.

1467
01:11:06,500 --> 01:11:07,500
So it's okay.

1468
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:09,500
I'm excited for us.

1469
01:11:09,500 --> 01:11:15,500
And outside of that thank you so much for of course listening to us every week.

1470
01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:20,500
You can definitely find us on Instagram like I mentioned a little earlier in the episode

1471
01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:24,500
at WTLGO podcast.

1472
01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:34,500
You can also find us on Instagram at sorry Instagram at tiktok at WTLGO podcast.

1473
01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:40,500
And also I never mentioned this enough but you can find our episodes on YouTube.

1474
01:11:40,500 --> 01:11:43,500
We are just when the light goes out podcast.

1475
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:47,500
So look us up on YouTube you'll find us there at this moment in time.

1476
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:50,500
I think we have episodes one through four up.

1477
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:53,500
There'll be more uploaded throughout the next week.

1478
01:11:53,500 --> 01:11:57,500
So just keep looking out for those if you'd like to listen to it that way.

1479
01:11:57,500 --> 01:12:02,500
And that takes us to the end of the episode.

1480
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:04,500
As always just keep you in cute.

1481
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:08,500
Follow us stay warm out there if you live in the Midwest or anywhere else because

1482
01:12:08,500 --> 01:12:10,500
I hear it's cold out there.

1483
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:11,500
No kidding.

1484
01:12:11,500 --> 01:12:18,500
And with that we will see you next when the light goes out.

1485
01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:19,500
Goodbye.

1486
01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:41,500
Bye.