I am Kendall and I am Bree and this is When the Light Goes Out.
Hello everyone, welcome back to another week of When the Light Goes Out and I'm very happy
that we're recording on a Wednesday in the middle of the day like this.
This is our first record on a Wednesday.
We've never recorded on a Wednesday before but I'm digging it.
I'm loving it.
We're not doing it at like, I chipped my nail.
Those nails are so pretty too.
What the hell?
I just got them done.
I see it too.
Anyway, I'm really jealous.
How the fuck did it chip?
Anyway.
They're so cute though.
Thank you.
You got those.
Clothes.
This Catwoman clause.
We love it.
So everyone, I hope you've had a great week.
I know it's and we're recording this again on a Wednesday so don't know what the rest
of the week looks like yet but I do know that half of the week has been a lot so far for
a lot of people and of course, you know, violence and terrible tragedy strikes every day.
But sometimes you realize that, you know, these things happen even in the closest of
proximity which is just, okay, I'm sorry, boo ruined my mom in the background.
She really just ran around.
Maybe didn't hear that.
Sorry, I got sidetracked.
But yeah, so things happen in the world all the time.
We know this.
It's not new.
But yeah, again, some things happen a little closer to us than we realize and it just really
strikes a vein and specifically just in the world of true crime here in Michigan, unfortunately,
I want to say it was on Monday, Monday night.
There was a gunman who had killed three Michigan State University students and left five others
in critical condition and he had plans apparently to target two schools in New Jersey.
As well, which is kind of crazy.
The shooter's name was Anthony McRae.
He was 43 years old and I guess he had lived in the area of Lansing, which is where the
school is, University, sorry, Michigan State University.
And yeah, so he opened fire on Monday evening on two parts of the campus and he was later
found dead.
So this asshole, of course, like many had shot himself.
He had self-infected gun wounds or gunshot wounds when they found him.
And it's just terrible, terrible to think about.
It's been sitting on my mind for the last couple of days now.
I was watching the news feed when it all went down and it was just truly terrifying because
so many people have loved ones there.
Many people have loved ones at any school, especially with the Idaho killings and with
all the killings that happen at these schools, it's just so tragic to listen to.
And the victims, the victims' names were, one was Ariel Anderson.
She graduated in 2021 from Gross Point North High School as well as the second victim who
was Brian Frazier.
Again, he had graduated just in 2021.
And then the third victim was Alexandria Verner.
So Alexandria, she went to class in high school.
I think she had just graduated actually last year, just literally not even a year ago.
And unfortunately, he lost her life.
These kids, not saying anybody should lose their lives, but they were only going to school.
They just went to school one day, they're in class or whatever.
And this gunman out of nowhere just comes out and just kills these innocent students.
It was literally so surreal in the most terrifying way because at my day job when I'm not doing
this, I work with a lot of high school students and college students.
And I actually do have four college students that go to Michigan State and I was in contact
with one of them the entire time.
And it was so terrifying to live it through her.
Yeah.
No.
Wow.
I'm going to say too, I'm sure you have a lot of people that work around that school.
I'm sorry, just go to that school in general.
And it's really eye-opening when, I mean, we see it on the news all the time, but of course
when it happens somewhere that you're not far from, it really just hits you in a different
way.
You're like, whoa.
Like, my mom and my brother were actually going to be there today on Wednesday, we're
recording again.
And I was just so happy to think about like, I'm glad they weren't there on Monday night
when they were supposed to, like they were going to go on Wednesday, but had that happen
tonight instead of on Monday?
Oh my God.
It's scary.
It's my whole entire like stomach was just like turned upside down just watching the
news.
I was listening to like the police scanner the whole time and had the news pulled up
on the iPad, police came up on the phone and I was texting my associates and like it was
just, it was a lot.
That's for sure.
I couldn't even imagine what like, I mean, me and Simon were already feeling so many
emotions.
Sorry.
Me and Simon were already feeling so many emotions.
I could not imagine what it actually felt like to actually be there.
It was definitely.
Yeah.
That's for sure.
No, my heart goes out to all those students that are out there and that are just terrified.
I know a lot of people were talking about how another student had gone through another
school shooting before.
There were two.
There was one.
Two.
Yeah.
Was in the Oxford shooting in Michigan, which was, I think a little over a year ago, I think.
And then there was one in the Sandy Hook shooting.
The Sandy Hook shooting.
A little over 10 years ago.
And it's just.
Wow.
That's insane.
I don't even want to fathom, but I also want to feel like I want to be there to like hurt
with the other people that have to go through this just because it's just scary.
The fact that you don't even know you could go to a movie theater.
You could go to school.
You could go anywhere in the world and you would still have this problem.
So really, when it comes to this kind of stuff, guys, protect each other the best you can,
you know, look out for each other.
If you or someone you know may have been around somebody or someone told you about someone
they know, that's just really just not right.
Or they've talked about doing stuff like this.
Take it seriously, like overreact.
It's better to overreact than underreact.
And it's only going to get worse, unfortunately, in my opinion.
It doesn't seem to get any better throughout these years.
It seems like more and more and more and more and more of these.
Sorry, we're getting frequency problems.
We're getting more and more and more of these school shooters are just coming out of the
woodworks.
And obviously, we don't know how to, you don't know until it happens, right?
So the best that we can really do, in my opinion, is just again, really look out for each other.
Someone is not doing well mentally.
Look out for them.
Ask them how they're doing, you know, because we all need it.
I know we do.
Not everyone can afford therapy.
It doesn't cover everyone's insurance.
So it's cool.
I get it.
Yeah, but our hearts go out to those families that were affected, especially the ones who
did lose their lives, as well as the five other students who were injured, as well as
the 40,000 plus students who had to experience that and live through that, as well as my
four associates that I know were terrified.
Our hearts definitely go out to you.
We're definitely thinking about you guys still.
And let's hope.
Let's hope something like that doesn't happen again.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, I'm sure it's bound to happen, but definitely not for a long time.
Hopefully a long time.
Of course, there's no real way to transition from this, but respectfully, we're going to
get into our stories for today.
So today's stories that we'll be talking about are ghost stories of New Orleans.
I always wanted to go.
My friend went recently.
Really?
It's not a fun year.
My grandma's there right now.
I'm jealous.
My grandma?
Yeah, so I guess.
I'm living it up.
I know.
February 21st, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's the first day of Mardi Gras, but I think
that it kind of goes on all month.
I didn't realize it was so early in the year.
Yeah, it happens in February.
So what's just another good reason to me was just like, oh, this is really good to just
kind of start this off or kick it off with that.
And I've always heard spooky ghost stories coming from New Orleans and all the different
things that have happened there from ghosts of empires to murderers to everything and beyond.
This is like super random, but isn't New Orleans like warm right now?
Oh, I don't know.
I feel like that's a good question.
Every time I see like Mardi Gras, people are wearing like skippy little outfits and stuff.
It looks like it's hot.
I'm like, I wonder what the...
Oh yeah, it's 75 right now.
Can we go right now?
Can we please get there?
Get there two hours and 30 minutes from Detroit.
Oh.
No, that's a fucking lie.
Oh.
No, that's so quick.
Oh wait, it's a flight.
Oh, it's only $150 for spirit for trying to be this.
Hey, what's your opinion now?
They're like, don't do it.
This is like 500.
Hey, okay, there you go.
That sounds more right.
Yeah, maybe for 100.
We'll risk it.
We will eventually take our little cute trip to New Orleans, but until then we'll be saving
on Beyonce tickets, so it's okay.
At least I will.
I'll be saving for my Mustang.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know that.
You better get that Mustang girl.
No, I have the Mustang.
Oh, you do, don't you?
I'm thinking in my head like a new Mustang.
Like a new brand new like 2023 shit or something.
No, your Mustang is cute as hell.
It's about to be finished.
Let me tell you, Brie has like five cars.
I'm like girl.
My family has a lot of cars.
I have two though.
It's a little unnecessary, but it's for a good reason.
And I love my low project car and she's almost done and I'm so excited to drive her in the
summertime.
Oh, we out here with the roof on.
Hey, what's going on?
No, so sorry guys, a little off topic, but yeah, so that kind of ties us back all in
with the New Orleans topic.
Right?
No, I'm totally kidding.
The story initially began in 1831.
A man by the name of Edward Dufault Sat, which what a name.
That's a mouthful.
Dufault Sat.
Shout out to the Dufault Sat.
If you have listeners and your name is Dufault Sat, hit us up.
So Edward Dufault Sat has slowed his unfinished home to a couple.
Dr. Leonard Louis Nicholas Lalari, what a name, and his wife, Delfine Lalari.
But what this story is really about is his wife, Marie Delfine Lalari, who some may also
recognize because she had been adopted, sorry, adopted, adapted into a character on season
three of American Horror Story Coven portrayed by Miss Katha Bates.
Oh, we love Katha Bates.
Hey, Kathy.
One of my favorite seasons, I have to say.
Yeah, that was a good season.
Go watch that season.
I rewatched it recently.
Listen to this episode and then watch that season.
Yeah, or rewatch it if you want.
Or rewatch it until our next episode.
So 31 years before Delfine moved into this house with her then husband, Leonard, she
was married to a high ranked Spanish royal officer named Don Raymond.
Though mysteriously, just days before the birth of their daughter, Raymond rudely just dies
for unknown reasons while the three have been traveling to Madrid.
Weird.
Eight years later, in June of 1808, at age 21, now keep in mind, the girl was 13 before.
So now we're at age 21.
Delfine Mary is her second husband, Jean Bloch, who she has four children with in New Orleans.
Now she and her family were from New Orleans, but I do believe that her family had for a
good time, went to France and her family did have a chunk of change.
She was already a high, you know, scoring woman who everyone loves.
Everyone was just.
So she was just high profile.
She is a whole she was a Popeye, his girl and okay, she could have had it all, but
split to the story gets to its.
Ashole.
Draftful peak.
I know, literally.
So like I said, both her husbands at this point have mysteriously died.
This brings us to 1825 when Delfine then Marys physician Leonard Lowry and the two eventually
finished her home in 1832 into what we now know today.
Now Leonard and Delfine moves in with only two of Delfine's daughters.
I'm not sure what happened to the other children, but I think they just lived with their other
family members while Delfine moved on and just kept living her life.
Cause you know, that's what you do out here.
Not to say her daughters were exactly treated well either, but they did live there either
way, everything was just perfect for the family and moving into their new home.
And again, the mansion is a very beautiful main mansion, but the only thing to consider
is that the home had a slave quarter.
So yeah, which I guess at the time wasn't that weird or shocking.
Not weird or shocking, but yeah, yeah.
Now to the community, Delfine was a well maintained socialite of the community.
Everyone knew she was.
During public appearances and social events, she was especially polite to enslaved black
workers that would just, she would just come across and all around she just wore a smile
on her face only behind Delfine's facade was a brutal murderous bigot.
Two years had passed by now.
So we're in 1834.
And as far as residents in the area knew Delfine and Leonard had decided to separate and Delfine
had been living in the Lolaari mansion with the family's enslaved servants and her children.
People are also already starting to get skeptical of Delfine and what she may have been up to
in her home because a lot of her own enslaved workers have been disappearing or just never
coming out of the mansion like they once used to.
In one instance, Delfine's neighbors reported seeing an eight year old black little girl
falling to her death from the roof of the Lolaari home.
I know.
Really, really tragic.
Eventually an investigation on this was conducted, but the only outcome to come of this was Delfine
having to forfeit nine of her enslaved workers.
Boo fucking who?
After this, Delfine lost a lot of credibility because you know, back then for these people,
the idea of having enslaved workers was a privilege and it would have been wrong to
inflict harm on them as if enslaving them was any better.
Unfortunately, many shrugged this incident off as a mental break or a freak accident
and resumed seeing Delfine as the heroic woman for sustaining a household all by herself.
After all, she had once even freed two slaves and had shown everyone how well-mannered and
soft-spoken she was.
So right, should have been the best.
I'm just kidding, that's wrong.
Mother rumors soon all became reality when one night, on April 10th, 1834, a fire ensued
at the Lolaari mansion.
Not long after the fire marshals and the police had arrived, they break down the door into
the manor and dart into the kitchen to extinguish the fire where the fire was coming from, when
they realized that Delfine's cook was chained to the stove by her ankles.
She later told officials that she was the one to set the fire as a suicide attempt to
be free from all the terrible torture that had been afflicted on her.
And at the scene, she told marshals that there had been more slaves in the attic trapped.
When officials finally controlled the fire, they were able to get upstairs to then knock
down the door to the attic to find a very, very, very gruesome scene.
I see no one has even imagined.
According to an article from the New Orleans Bee, that was released the day after this
incident on April 11th of 1834, quote, upon entering one of the apartments, the most appalling
spectacle met their eyes. Seven slaves, more or less horribly mutilated, were seen suspended
by the neck, with their limbs apparently stretched and torn from one extremity to another.
These slaves were the property of a demon, in the shape of a woman.
They had been confined by her for several months, and the situation from which they had thus
pro-provincially been rescued and had been merely kept in existence to prolong their
suffering, and to make them taste all that the most refined cruelty could affect.
I said that so badly, but okay.
Well, moving on, many of the other enslaved workers were found with broken bones, some
were found with their eyes literally, like, just ripped out of their heads, and some were
completely battered to a pulp.
Oh, and come to later find out, the little enslaved girl that died prior to this discovery
was simply brushing Delphine's hair when a little girl had got the brush stuck on
a knot in her hair. Apparently, this really pissed off Delphine, so she grabbed a whip
and terrified the little girl, so the little girl had ran to escape, and Delphine chased
the little girl to the top of the home, where the girl had then fallen, or fallen, quote,
off the building to her death.
What is infuriating in addition to this was that Delphine was inspected for this incident,
like I said before. She had hired relatives and her friends to buy these enslaved workers
back and snuck them back into the mansion. That's some true, like, terrible shit. And
like, I get it, because of the time, you have to think like, what was okay, what wasn't,
blah blah blah blah blah, but either way, like, you chased a little girl to her death,
and then you tried to cover it up, and then you get punished for it, but then you just
chose to just manipulate it anyways. This bitch. This bitch.
She's, I can't even think of words to describe her, but she's definitely a fucked up lady.
She's a fucked up lady, yeah. Oh yeah. Well.
The big racist fucked up lady. Oh yeah. Yeah, without a doubt.
For the time being that there were enslaved peoples, that's a whole different drag in
the sleigh. But the fact that she tortured, killed, and mutilated innocent people.
That's really fucked up. Like, at least some slave owners weren't like fucking murdering.
No. And I'm pretty sure it was illegal at the time. You don't just kill people.
Yeah, you don't just. First of all, you don't, you don't enslave people. But second of all,
you don't kill people. No, no, not at all. So mobs have broke out in search of Delphine
for the torturing and murdering of her enslaved workers. But by the time the fire had broken
out, Delphine and her daughter had already fled. What happened next was not well documented.
It's believed that Delphine had help from her separate spouse or separated spouse Leonard
to flee because witnesses claim to have seen him at the house the same day at the fire.
Oh, some big T there. Wow. He was unable to be located afterwards, which is another kind
of, you know, add on to that. So it's just kind of shady. Yeah. Yeah. Big right flag.
Allegedly Delphine had taken her and her children overseas back to France where Delphine and
her parents and siblings were raised. Townspeople years after in New Orleans suggested that Delphine
may have been bold enough to secretly return back to New Orleans because all the reports
or enough reports had suggested seeing a woman that looked a lot like Delphine. And others
suggested that shortly after moving, Delphine had died from a boar hunting accident after
a Jane Doe was found with Delphine's description. So those are two maybe plausible things that
could have happened to you, Delphine. We don't know. It's still a mystery to this day, though
this is not the end of the story quite yet because over 200 years, many deemed the Wallari
mansion to be one of the most haunted in New Orleans. Now I'm backtracking a little bit,
but in I guess just like to clear up confusion and stuff to the American Horror Story like
story. Yeah.
I guess is that she was like buried alive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, that could
have been it too. Who knows. But in reality, we're it's like not confirmed.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. That it's not confirmed. Yeah. She has no grave that no one knows.
Obviously, she's not alive. I'm like spoiler alert. She's dead. But there is some spectacled
us. There's others, I would say, I guess that say that she may have possibly have been like
buried alive by people that knew what she did, or she may have been just lived out her
life and just died of old age. So there's so many different just in everyone around
that time. We're saying that they saw her. They saw someone that looked like her because
she was pretty well known after even that. Like she got even more well known because
of the fact that she did this. And so it kind of spread throughout the papers of throughout,
you know, the entire country. And eventually people just kind of gave up in there just
kind of like, well, I don't know what to do about that. She's gone. Unfortunately.
I know it really is. But like I said, that's not the end of it yet because we have ghost
stories for you. Well, long, long after being under the ownership of the lorry's mansion,
it was renovated into a integrated girl school for girls, which now makes sense considering
American Horror Story, which if you guys know, the witches are in a school for girls. So
it was then a conservatory of music. And after that, it eventually then became a home for
the homeless. The interesting part is many never seem to stay or own the mansion for
very long. This is popular because of how the bad juju surrounding the home from its
dark past. So don't blame them for thinking that. But kind of like the Cisa Hotel, if
you think about it, kind of like that a little bit. I don't know. I've seen similarities.
Dark past. Dot past. People died. More to. Lory Lee's got him beat up with the torture.
Oh, she does this bitch. Just some examples of how about the aura around this house is
one owner that bought the house ended up being admitted into the asylum after buying the house.
And that was just a year after buying it. Another owner have fell into a coma after buying the
property and get this. One of its previous owners was a famous actor. He was Nicholas
Cage. Right. The Nicholas Cage. He had bought the mansion in 2007 for $3.4 million, according
to wandering crystal.com. He spent only one night in the house. It was too afraid to sleep
at the house thereafter because the entire night while trying to sleep, he kept hearing
the sounds of people having a conversation in the hallways after knowing he had been
the only one in the house. He still wanted to keep it, but for the fear factor of it
all, decided to just have it as just a notable, you know, being to have. But not long after
he had claimed bankruptcy in the house foreclosed. So those are literally very different owners
that just had weird occurrences with this house while owning them. Now, guess that stayed
at the time the mansion had been renovated as a hotel have reported of hearing streets
and moans at any time of day. Three different witnesses have reported smelling burning flesh
or hearing dragging on chains. I could not imagine hearing or smelling flesh. I don't
know how that smells. Don't want to know the smelling of the flesh would do me more than
the tracking of chains. Both equally terrifying, but I feel like if I just randomly started
smelling burning flesh, which I've never actually smelled, but I feel like you would know when
you spoke the smell. It's disgusting. I would not be okay. No, gosh, I'm like, not me trying
to envision it. Okay, so as for sightings, more recently tour guides of the mansion consistently
report of seeing an apparition of a tall black man slowly walking around through the mansion's
corridor, dragging with sounds like heavy chains, which is just really sad. Many other
report of seeing a white woman in a period dress with glaring eyes staring at them or
on the house, which to me is just equally as terrifying. Oh, it reminds me of hereditary
when the grandma in the beginning is just like staring at the mom and she's supposed
to be, you know, did. Actually, no, I don't think I ever watched hereditary. I didn't
know that. Oh my God. Well, if you guys have seen it, you know, I'm talking about if not,
it's streaming on HBO, I think. Anyway, not an ad. Moving on. Ironically, back when the
mansion was a all girl school, many students, specifically black students complained of
being encountered by a woman that assaulted them. They explained that she'd yanked their
arms and someone actually have scratches and bruises up and down their bodies. Yeah. If
you say it, if you ask me sounds like homegirl a lorry, don't know. But I don't know that's
weird because everyone said that, you know, she fled. But people are saying that she's
they see a white apparition of a woman just mad. So in addition, in 1894, when the house
was converted into apartments, a tenant that lived in the home had been mysteriously slaughtered
in his room. And yes, I did say mysteriously slaughtered in his room.
Which mysterious who the fuck gets mysteriously slaughtered in the room? Yeah,
It's like killed but slaughtered slaughtered. Police assumed that it was a robbery that
had gone wrong, but nothing had been missing from his room after a long investigation. And
they never caught the person that did this. Even creepier. After the tenant's death,
there have been tons of unexplainable phenomena coming from the room. And one last one. More
recently, one spring during a ghost tour, all lookers were passing by the lorry mansion
and swore they had seen the silhouette or someone standing on the roof of the house
and then just vanished. This is thought to be the little girl that had once jumped her
death, which is again heartbreaking. But that is where I'll leave you for my story.
That one was definitely a very tragic. Yeah.
It's really fucked up gal. Yeah. You know what's interesting too, because I feel like
I need to word this in a certain way, so it's not like a stereotypical gender thing. But
like normally men, it's normally men. Yeah, right. Serial killers or I mean, obviously
we have seen our fair share of a couple women killers. Yeah, over over time. That caliber
that's like typically that torture caliber to rip the eyes out of the enslaved African
American people that you had to decide it to just keep for yourself. You decide to torture
them, take their eyes out, which who thinks of that? And then you just decide to mutilate
them like, oh, like, oh, it's definitely I feel like it's definitely interesting that
it was a lady that was doing it is interesting. One thing I never understood about the whole
lullaby story is that she grew up with a nice family. And I think there were a lot of like,
obviously, like there were a lot of strange shit around that family going on and stuff
like that. But nothing to that extent, like there wasn't nothing there was no reports
of like, you know, she had family members who did similar stuff. She did I think have
interesting marriage history and that's still weird too that her husband's kind of just
mysteriously died. Yeah, that is suspicious to you, which is like girl what you do. Duffy
and we know it's you. We know it's you. But yeah, that is weird. It is strange. Interesting,
I guess, little add to the fact, especially because we're talking 1800s and we're talking
like very prim proper lady like like, like, yeah. And it's weird too, because like, like
I said, women know rights. Yeah, women are right. Right. Like a lot of that. So it's
kind of interesting that she was she was that bold murder to do that shit. Yeah. Yeah, I
don't know. But you guys can go to the house check it out. The lorry house it is. I believe
today a wax I think it's more of like a wax museum if I'm not mistaken. So it's kind
of like a pretty much a house that you can still go to the house did burn when I had
burnt that night, but they had reconstructed a lot of it. So I didn't really even say that.
And on top of that, and there are still people to say that see a lot of shit going on in
that house. And I can only imagine there are a lot of mad black people going ham in that
house because I know I would. Oh, as far as I know, it is like a museum tour. Yeah. You
can go into the attic still, I think so. Yeah, it would be a word. I think one of those,
it's one of those and I think we're going to cover some stories later on, but it's one
of those stories are like it's weird that people are fascinated enough to go to a place
where people have been tortured and you know, just killed and murdered in just the most
horrendous ways. But it's also interesting because I don't know, like I if you're asking
me like I would be curious enough to go and see what what it's about. But then again,
I don't know, I feel biased because I report on this stuff all the time. So it's like,
I don't know, but it would be interesting. It would be interesting to check that out.
That's for sure. Definitely. So moving on to an Equal ASFLux story. The Griffin House.
So this story starts in 1852 when a man by the name of Adam Griffin or Archie Griffin
had just built his home on 1447 Constance Street in New Orleans. So the sources did
mention different names for Mr. Griffin. There was either Adam or Archie. So makes sense.
That's old dude. So we're not sure. But one of one of the same guy. Only months after
finishing the home, Griffin did flee and abandon the home before the federal army made
its way into New Orleans. Imagine having to abandon your house he just built. Yeah, that
sucks. I'd be like pissed. I'd be really pissed. I'm not at the hell. I mean leaving. No,
literally though. The year is now 1862 and New Orleans had been under siege. So at this
point, Union troops had been choosing large estates to house themselves and their supplies
in and the Griffin home would be one of the homes that they ended up using. I mean, it
does sound like it's a brand new like big home. That's I guess thinking back to that
time of war, troops which is knocking down homes and just living with whoever they wanted
to. Yeah, it was like, isn't that like an amendment right that they could just like coming to
your house at any time? Yeah, like my home. Yeah, I need to set up shop. Hey, there's
war coming on over here. We're gonna set up some shop. Yeah, that's crazy. So the first
group soldiers had come to occupy the house and just within the first night, soldiers
had been bothered by hearing groans and the sound of chains coming from the third floor
or the attic. So when the soldiers had gone up to check the next day, like the Laura re
home, they discovered multiple enslaved workers that had been shackled to the walls, many
of which had been starved and some had already passed away. The enslaved servants were wait,
where are you? The enslaved servants were in such dire condition that many of them were
plagued by maggots that had infested their way. That's bad. That's really bad. When
maggots grow, that means like the wound was really bad and untreated for a long time.
It's dead, dead. Yeah, dead, dead. Yeah. Ew, I want to throw up now. Yeah, that's gross.
Take me home. No, no, thank you. The good thing about those that were still alive is
that they were moved to a hospital to be cared for. Good. And shortly after that, the home
did end up becoming a shelter to both the soldiers and prisoners of war. Okay. So that
already been basically when they discovered that they got them out, went back. I wonder
if they put them like, because I know they sleep in the same place. I'm like, where would
you, I think, where would you have put soldier? I mean, your prisoners, if you're living in
the same house to where they can't escape. Like maybe the basement. Yeah, maybe. I don't
know. This is weird. I know that's a thing like they would get their captors and they
would like, you know, lock them somewhere. But you know what, maybe they put them in
the attic. You know what, you're probably right. Let them suffer, right? You're talking
about the prisoners. Yeah. Well, I mean, well, actually, we know the story. We know the story.
So that's I answer my own question. I'm so dumb. Yeah. Okay. Never mind. I'm a man.
I'm happy.
Shortly after some of the union shoulders, shoulders, shortly after some of the union
soldiers had caught their first prisoners, they found two Confederate soldiers attempting
to flee and abandon their jobs dressed in union uniforms, roaming the streets, caught
stealing goods from other soldiers, which at the time was a crime punishable by death.
The two men were then brought to the Griffin house to await their further punishment. The
entire time they were locked away, they tried convincing the union soldiers that they were
good men. They're like, please don't kill me. Oh, I would too. Like, hey, I can do whatever
you want.
Hey, what do you want? They even attempted convincing the soldiers they even knew a familiar
song they'd all know called John Brown's body. They did convince some of the soldiers that
sentencing them to death may have been a little super barric. Some of the union soldiers became
sympathetic even offering the whiskey and other luxuries that were on hand. Oh, that
be me. You want some whiskey? I guess we won't kill you. But like, I guess I won't kill you.
But you want to get your if I could say that to my enemies.
Though, unfortunately, the two men found out that there would be no leniency in their sentencing.
They ended up convincing their guard to smuggle in two pistols so that they may kill themselves
before their sentence was passed. Not good. Fair enough. I mean, I don't want to die at
my own hands. Then if yeah, honestly, I feel that. So the two had sat across from each other
on their beds, they faced one another and both let off a fire instantly killing the two. This
suicide was so gruesome that soldiers saw their blood seeping through the floorboards and down into
the wall of the room one floor below holy shits. That's a lot of blood. When the war eventually
ended, the Griffin home really started to see several different owners. But again, like the
Lorely mansion, not many owners or workers stuck around for a very long time. Makes sense. A couple
different owners had reported seeing two drunken soldiers both holding bottles of whiskey as they
hum John Brown's body. That's creepy. That's specific. That's like equally creepy. But also
just imagine seeing two ghosts coming at you with some whiskey like like drunk.
You want to pregame after you pregame? I need to leave because you are a ghost.
No, I'd be like, can I get a suit? Can I get a suit? There have also been reports having heard the
sound of marching boots that accompany the sounds of singing and humming of the same melody.
Yeah, that I'm good on that. The humming, the singing. We can't do that. In the early 1900s,
the house was used as a perfume bottling company. And then as a union hiring hall.
That's so fun perfume bottling company. I'd want to do that. Honestly, I can see that. My brand on
it would be like Kindle cosmetics or not kindle cosmetics, kindle, perfume. There you go. There
you go. Kardashian's called comfy. They're like, excuse me, Wyatt. Don't come for me. I mean,
sorry, Kylie or kindle. All of them. Any of you. This owner often would work rebuilding air
conditioners, but soon had disappeared from the home without a trace. That's creepy. Oh,
where'd he go? Yeah, for real. Where the fucking man's go? Prior to this occurrence,
the owner would often write to his family reporting of often hearing screams, groaning,
and clanging chains coming from the attic. Many that passed by the home at the time had also
reported seeing the two drunkhead soldiers staring out of the second floor window directly at them.
Oh, love. Oh, I'm good. Have you looking like, Hey, I'm gonna keep walking.
My business. My business. But actually, the most paranormal activity that the house ever saw
was reported in 1936. So the first two investors bought the home, they reported getting pelted
with a concrete black thrown from the second floor as the owner stood at the end of the stairs.
Assuming someone was in the home, they checked everywhere, but found no one there and all the
windows and doors had been completely locked. But what's also out about this and about the home
was that it wasn't even made of concrete. So where did the concrete black come from?
Oh, shit, sister. No, where you getting these don't throw bricks at me like the hell.
What the fuck? I'm trying to think of I was a ghost. Would I help people with bricks?
Probably not bricks. Maybe like, I'd probably be a nicer ghost. I would probably like my
my business like move some shit from time to time. Yeah, I probably play with them a little bit.
Yeah, I want to help them with fucking. I'd be like the type of guy. Well, these ghosts are
angry. So fair enough. But I'd probably be the type of ghosts that would just like be the kind
where when someone moves in, they'd be like, Yeah, we have a ghost. We named her Stacy.
Stacy. I like that.
She's like fucks with our stuff sometimes. But like, she's really chill. She's chill.
So like, don't worry about her. She like my like hide your shit. But like, it's okay. You'll be fine.
Oh my God. When I was researching my topic, I honestly was thinking about like,
how old some of these houses that we live in are and like, how weird it would be if like,
I don't know, like that phenomena, like living with a ghost, like,
I'd be like,
unless it was a cool ghost. No, no, that's just Stacy.
That's just Stacy. Say hi to Stacy. I'm good.
Um, so eventually, these investors had ended up using the Griffin house as a small lamp factory.
So many of the employees had also made reports of doors that open on their own,
then following the sound of marching through the house. Some workers also reported seeing and
hearing drunken soldiers as well as seeing blood seeping through the ceiling and walls of a second
story room. That's some shining shit. These drunken soldiers are definitely making their presence
more known. More known than less. Yeah. Oh yeah. That sounds like it. I was gonna say,
that does sound like some horror movie shit seeing blood seep through walls. But like,
in that moment, like, what do you even do? I'd be running out of the house calling the police.
Oh, no. No, yeah. I don't know. I'm not bold enough to go upstairs to see what it is. No,
hell no. I'm not gonna lie. But you can best believe I'm weaving. I'd still be calling the cops.
Yeah. Like, hell no. I'd be grabbing my bunny. That's probably what happened to the missing guy
that just disappeared. Here he dips. Yeah, this shit. He said, what the shit? I'm grabbing
my bunny and out of this bitch. No, we taking the babies and leaving. Out of this bitch.
So a few years later, the home was eventually converted into a boarding house because no one
else wanted to invest in the house. Don't blame them. For a pretty long time. It's kind of crazy
to this side note that this house was turned into so many random things, especially being a home.
It was turned into like, a factory a lot. That is weird. Just like, random for it being a house.
I wonder if that was a thing because it seems like back then they were really good about
re renovating things and like small homes into things. Yeah.
And stuff like that. Yeah. They turned a house into a person. I want to see how that looks,
but that I don't. Like, I don't want to see this house like that, but I want to see that.
Yeah. I feel like some places in Detroit are kind of like that.
I could see that. Yeah. I could definitely see that. So one of the first tenants in this
boarding house was a widow and she had rented out a room on the second level. Well, one day.
Well, sewing near the window, she looked down to see a drop of blood on her arm,
assuming that she had just nicked herself. She just, you know, wiped it away when I'm with her day.
But after several minutes had passed, more blood started dripping onto her hand.
At that point, she looked up and realized that the blood was seeping through the
motherfucking ceiling. Oh, she was so horrified according to the owners that she left the home
and never came back, not even for her. Oh, bitch. I don't blame this. So this bitch up and left.
She loved that shit. She said, I am not bringing it. I know my shit. It's got bad juju. I'm zipping.
That is the POV of what I would do. Basically. Yeah. Like I'm leaving and I'm never coming back.
That is an outline of what I would do in that situation. What in the literal fuck?
On our last note of the Griffin house, the scene is the late 1970s and the area had become
really overrun by drug addicts and transients at this point. The Griffin house would also be
overrun, but crazy enough, even the addicts and transients felt an eerie presence and decided
to not stay in the home. I'm sorry. If the drug addicts are staying in there, neither am I.
Yeah, no, we good on that. I'm not even looking at the house. I'm not even breathing in the air
that the house is breathing. I ain't even walking across on the sidewalk. I'm not even, no, I'm not
even looking at pictures. No, I have, but oh, no, bad juju everywhere. Some insisted that the house
was overrun with spirits. I kept saying they had seen two men in some kind of police uniform
singing old timey songs. Yeah. So the two drunk guys that killed themselves. Are you just drunk
as a ghost at that point? Can I do that? Can I please go that way? Like I want to be a drunk
ghost. Like how fun would that be? Are you just drunk all the time? Fuck that. Shit, yeah.
So for years to come, the house remained abandoned until about 2004 when an owner bought and renovated
the decaying home. Though in a 2017 interview about the home, the owner had claimed witnessing no
drunken sailor songs, no blood dripping from the ceilings. Although he did add that guests
that stay in the converted addict don't stay too long. What the fuck you do turn into an Airbnb?
Yeah, it is actually. You can just stay there. I said that as a joke. What the fuck? It is.
I just looked that up and yeah, it actually is a place you can stay. So if you guys want to go,
if you guys want to actively go. Let me look up how much it is a night.
It looks really nice. Wait, I want to see pictures. I want to figure out how much it is.
That's like really nice. That just not looks scary. Honestly, I'm not saying this though,
like at night, but I'll go there in a day. Like that's really cute. Oh shit. I didn't even know.
Oh my God. Is this the attic? I hate it. I hate it. It like doesn't look scary at all.
It doesn't look scary, but knowing what happened. That's terrifying. Oh shit. Look at their backyard.
They have a pool and everything. Oh my God. Period. Okay. The price of it is a million dollars.
1.3 million. Oh my God. Are they selling it like right now? Maybe it's selling it and that they're
not renting it to people. So maybe that's what it is. Not Airbnb, but it's like a place you can
like rent by or something. Well, it says the page you're looking for cannot be found. So maybe
it was sold. I don't know when this article was written. That's interesting. I want to see how
much it is a night, man. Can we stay? I bet if we email them they'd be like, yeah, come on.
Let's go. Let's take a trip to a haunted house with drunkos. What could be better?
Yeah, I don't know. I can't find anything about staying in it like an Airbnb, but I
don't know how much it would be a night. But I don't want to know too. It's market prices.
This is a stab. Basically, 1.3 million dollars, which is a lot. Oh, oh, shit. It's a lot. It's
kind of nice. Yeah, we'll post pictures on Instagram at WTLGO podcast. I'll say it again in
five minutes. So it's fine. But yeah, that is. I can't find anything. No, it's okay. We're gonna,
I'm interested though. So we're definitely, if I do find something, I'll let you guys know because
I'm interested. If you guys find something, let us know because that sounds spooky. That's
really spooky. So, but yeah, that is our episode 24. Holy shit. We're at 24 episodes.
We're coming up on the dirty 30. The dirty 30. We officially surpassed my age now. So that's crazy.
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