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I'm Kendall and I'm Bri and this is when the light goes out.

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Hello.

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Hi.

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Hello all of you strange and beautiful humans.

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Welcome back to another week of when the light goes out.

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It is episode 23.

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23.

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23.

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Oh wait no I can't even do it.

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We can't.

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It's 21.

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I don't know about you.

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Oh I thought 23.

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Oh I thought you were going to say 21.

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Can you do something?

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What song is 23?

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Is there a 23 song?

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I don't think there is out there.

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There's one.

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There's a TikTok one.

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That's like oh shit.

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What is it?

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I'm trying to think of the sound.

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23.

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I feel like looking that up.

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It's by um what the fuck is that girl's name.

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Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh I know that song but I know I'm also thinking of isn't there

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a song that Miley Cyrus came out with called 23 right?

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20 something?

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I don't know.

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I don't listen to Miley Cyrus.

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I don't know it's like such a whole song and I feel like anyone would know it though.

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Oh shit I don't know.

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What about Jeeze on 23?

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Jeeze on 23 song is like not.

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Jeeze on my feet.

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Jeeze on my feet.

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Jeeze on my feet.

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That's 23 right?

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Isn't that called 23?

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I think it might be.

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Okay I got one.

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I think.

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I like this game.

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Jeeze is like not really a catchy 23 though because the part that she says it is now I'm

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23 you felt like I outlived all my enemies.

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Oh god.

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She starts the song with being like.

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I'm just starting to make enemies.

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How old are you now and then she goes 23 and then it's like K makes sense and then it goes

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into the song.

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Oh okay.

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Yeah it's like a tic-tac.

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Oh I feel like I've definitely probably heard that song before.

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It sounds whittier from the beginning.

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But yeah I hope everyone's had a great week.

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I like to just start out with that because we don't say it enough.

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We don't like to ask enough.

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Yeah how was your guys' week?

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Yeah.

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I hope that y'all talk to us much anyway.

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Just a mental wellness check.

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Just making sure everyone's doing okay.

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Well we, well I'll speak for myself.

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I don't know how your week went.

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Go ahead.

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What did I even do this week?

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God I don't even know.

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I worked most of the week.

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Sunday was my errand day.

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Oh I'm going to move my mic real quick.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm making one noise.

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Okay I'm here.

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Sunday was like I felt like I ran all my errands and then Monday through tomorrow.

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I've just been working.

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So yeah.

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If you guys hear my cat meowing or purring as always.

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Boo's here.

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Boo's here.

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Boo's in the house.

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As always for people who are just joining in on this episode.

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Boo is my cat.

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Boo is our mascot.

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She is our mascot.

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If you hear any like random noises.

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She is all up on our podcast table.

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Yeah she's up on the table.

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She's stared at Kendall like she's being confrontational.

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She's about to smell my plate.

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Get out of here.

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There's nothing on it.

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Boo will you can sit with me or will you be good?

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Will you lay down?

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Will you lay down Boo?

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Lay down.

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It looks like he's trying to cast a spell on her.

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I was like hovering my hand over her not petting her.

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I don't know why.

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I'm so weird.

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Lay down.

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Anyway how was your week?

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My week was okay.

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It wasn't too bad.

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It was pretty dormant so far.

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I feel like I guess I haven't done a ton.

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Oh she about to jump.

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She.

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Okay go ahead Boo.

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I'm going to go over my bottom meat.

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Bottom meat.

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What is it called?

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Bota meaty?

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I don't know.

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My shirt and my go-go juice.

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My go-go juice.

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My juice in the box.

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My wine in the box.

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He didn't just shot a tequila before this and now he's doing some wine in the box.

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Listen sis.

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Wine in a juice box.

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We gotta smell silly sometimes when we want to talk about some dark shit.

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Silly goofy.

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Silly goofy girls.

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Oh what the hell is wrong with us?

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I don't get out enough.

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I don't know what your thing is because you do.

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I really do.

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I don't really have a reason I guess.

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I just no excuse.

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No all around them.

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My week has been good and again this is always a fun part of my week because I feel like

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well I mean obviously this is work but we work our own full-time jobs and then we get

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to come to this and I get to see you.

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I get to tell all of you a story.

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What not to love about all of us.

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So assuming boo won't step on my keyboard and fuck up all this track right now.

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I would cry.

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I would take a shower after this boo don't fuck anything up.

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The both swarming around my backpack is everything okay.

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Yeah they probably just smell pebbles.

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Oh that's so true.

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Yeah I don't talk about pebbles enough.

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Pebbles is my little blind poodle.

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She's an old girl.

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She's an old girl.

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She's young at heart though.

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She young at heart.

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I don't give her some credit.

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This dog has so much energy for a blind little old dog and I'm like girl how do you have

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so much energy.

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I have little bit of energy.

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She is like a little white dog though.

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She is a little white dog.

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She is a definition of a little white dog.

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Like ram bag.

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Ram bag.

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She's as fuck.

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Like sometimes a little annoying.

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Yeah no you're a little ankle biter.

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That's for sure.

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A little ankle biter but we love her.

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She's cute.

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We love my little pebbles.

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The sim first time I met pebbles upsets.

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Oh she's so cute.

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I told I said that we wouldn't ramble too much but here we are.

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We can cut some of it out.

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This is cute banter though.

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I told Bree at the beginning of the before we started the episode.

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Okay let's just go into the story.

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No banter.

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It's a long one.

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But then we sit and then banter just it just happens.

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It's because when we get a lot around with each other and we haven't talked about life

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in a while or whatever.

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We just be talking.

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Y'all just sitting with us and just listen.

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We be talking.

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It's like we need a separate podcast of just us talking.

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Just us talking.

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I don't think a lot of people listen to that.

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You never know.

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That could be a cute little thing.

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We have to talk about something like actually relevant but you know.

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Yeah maybe when we get more well known.

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Have more time.

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Yeah probably not.

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Alright well.

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Let's get into it.

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Let's get into it.

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Yeah.

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Get into it.

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So.

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Yo I can't do it.

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Yeah.

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So today we have a story for you guys.

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Now this story is a pretty crazy story.

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I think it spirals a lot wouldn't you say?

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Fast.

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It spirals pretty quickly.

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It's a lengthy one.

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It's not super lengthy but it is like it will lead us right up to our time limit.

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A lot of info.

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There's a lot of info.

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So again if I told you Chetta like Chetta fill herself around with the audience fills.

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If you're confused she's confused.

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We're all confused.

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I speak for you guys.

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Yes.

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So try to stay along.

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Here we go.

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So today's story is the murder of Abraham Shakespeare.

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Now the first thing I thought when I first heard about this case is wow what a name.

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That is a name.

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That's a name.

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That's a cool name.

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Like what a name.

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The last name is Shakespeare.

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Shakespeare.

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It's very noble.

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Very.

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Like I've never met anyone named Shakespeare and if you're last I mean Shakespeare out

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there can you hit us up and tell us hi because I'm jealous.

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I feel like it's pretty cool.

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But anywho the story starts out on November 24th 2009 in Polk County Florida.

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The Sheriff's Office declares a 42 year old African American male by the name of Abraham

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Shakespeare a missing person.

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He actually hadn't been seen for six months prior to being declared missing.

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Six months.

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Six months.

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Yeah.

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That's crazy right.

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Imagine.

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It's a long time.

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Six months had gone by and it was weird for Abraham to go missing though because he had

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actually recently been the winner of the Florida lottery.

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Suspicious.

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I know.

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He has widely known to be a family man devoted to sharing his winnings with anyone that asks.

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So the real question here is why would a millionaire and yes he won $30 million.

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$30 million.

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$30 million.

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$30 million.

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I said it again.

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$30 million.

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$30 million.

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Are you sure you read those zeros right?

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Yeah.

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$30 million.

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$30 million.

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And if you guys don't believe me look on our Instagram at WTLGO Podcast.

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That's a nice plug.

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Yes.

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And look up because we'll have a picture there of him holding $30 million.

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That's a lot of money.

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Yeah.

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So the question stands.

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Why would a millionaire that literally went from Rex to riches just up and disappear

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out of without a trace?

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Suspicious.

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Sus.

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Very sussis.

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That's not sussis.

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So let's just rewind.

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That was like perfect noise.

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That's it really?

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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How did you do that?

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I wasn't thinking about it and it just happened or it might be the box line.

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But anyway.

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That was the tequila shot.

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Oh that too.

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I forgot.

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Yeah.

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So let's rewind to three years earlier in November of 2006.

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So 40 year old Abraham Lee Shakespeare had been working as a truck driver while also

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living with his mother in plant city, Florida.

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This is a real community with lots of farming land often used for shabery and orange growing

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and it's not super populated and that kind of makes me really hungry for fruit right

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now.

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Don't know why but it does.

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An orange does sound good.

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It does sound good right now.

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I love me an orange.

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So Abraham did not make a ton of money.

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He lived paycheck to paycheck.

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He was also a single father with his son Moses and if you don't realize already it seemed

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like Moses and Abraham their biblical name so that's a thing.

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And he co-apparented his son with his ex and he often spent his time actually at home

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when not working caring for his utterly grandmother and was just a very hard working all around

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decent person.

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He seems like a sweet genuine caring family man.

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Yeah.

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How many of those can you say they were living existing?

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That's right.

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Probably not many.

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Yeah.

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Luckily I know a few.

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A few, yeah.

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Well Abraham's friend Gregory would later state quote, if he could help you he was on

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his way.

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He was that type of person and if you saw him out he would never have a bad day.

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Unquote.

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So you get a sense of who he kind of was.

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Like a sunshine.

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A sunshine.

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A sunshine.

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I love it.

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And so according to his mother he never fought with her growing up.

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Always suspected her rules would never come home late and never would come home drunk

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or on any drugs both in his adolescence and in his adult life.

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So literally sunshine.

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He was literally so pure and he was just a decent human being.

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I think the only thing and of course we all have maybe the smallest guilt in our class

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if anything it was that he loved women and it's not a bad thing that you love women.

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He just loved women.

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I mean who doesn't?

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I love these women.

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Suffer kind of maybe.

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No I love.

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I love.

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Don't get it mistaken.

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I love my women.

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Oh don't get it twisted.

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Just not that way.

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In the platonic way.

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In the platonic way, yeah.

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There you go.

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So now one thing about Abraham that is actually really unfortunate is that he had a very

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limited education.

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He had a very small, sorry, he had very small social skills and knew little about how to

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handle money but from human interaction he knew some of the basics to get by.

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I don't know how accurate this part is because no other side of source could verify why but

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it did, I did stumble upon a Reddit thread and a user claim that he had started going

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to school at a certain point but dropped out to take care of his family after his father

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was out of the picture.

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Again, I don't know how true that is.

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That was a Reddit thread that can be easily made up.

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Someone could have just said that, pulled out their ass or it could be true.

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Reddit's not always the most trustworthy source.

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Yeah and again, because I didn't find that to be a side of source, I also kind of find

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it as a question mark but that's something that we can maybe put into that story.

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But either way, make sure to mentally write a post-it note of that in your brain because

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his limited education is really what I believe gets taken advantage of later on.

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Aww.

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Yeah.

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Like I said.

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So, on an investigation discovery documentary called A Stranger in My Home, they talked about

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Abraham and how he loved to take his son on walks.

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Now and then he would take his son, little Moses, to the really, really rich neighborhoods

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that were around and just show him the big houses and his son would just be so fascinated

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by them.

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And it's just so wholesome.

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Aww.

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It's just like, and it just gives me…

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Sunshine!

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Sunshine on a cloudy day.

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Literally, he's the embodiment of that song.

365
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Oh my god.

366
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I actually don't remember how that song goes.

367
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If there's any bad parts, I take that back.

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No, I don't think there are but I can't even sing it because I know I'm going to

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fuck it up and I'm going to get hate so it's okay.

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Well, Abraham, I'm sure like many parents out there really wanted a better life for

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his son but knew he couldn't provide that to him so he wanted to inspire him the best

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way he knew how which was by helping people, giving good to the world, being grateful to

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be alive and hopes that one day he could, you know, support his family better than he

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is already.

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My heart.

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So ironically, very soon, that will all change.

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On November 15th, 2006.

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Shit.

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That's my birthday.

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It is.

381
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Why do our birthdays come up so often?

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My birthday came up in the last three, didn't it?

383
00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,600
Yeah, because it was like a few days away from when it was like that.

384
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Oh, wow.

385
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Yeah.

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Oh shit.

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Well, on November 15th, 2006, Abraham and a friend of his at the time named Michael

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Ford decides to walk over to a convenience store that afternoon.

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Abraham asks Ford if he can go in and while he's shopping and go and buy two footer lotto

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tickets and hence Michael $2.

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$2 for two lotto tickets.

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$2.

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$2.

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And he won 30.

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30.

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Yeah.

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Oh my God.

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So Michael goes in, gets his things, gets a lotto tickets and gets them to Abraham.

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They're on that same night, the announcer on the telly, I like saying that, telly.

400
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I'm a telly.

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I'm a telly.

402
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This is America.

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Don't at me.

404
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I'm sorry.

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So the announcer on the telly is rolling those numbers and calling them off when he

406
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realizes that he has just won a whopping $30 million.

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Boom baby.

408
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Crazy.

409
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Holy shit.

410
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I know I said that at the beginning but whoa.

411
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I wouldn't disbelieve.

412
00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,360
I'd be like, is this fake?

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I would be in shock.

414
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Like what would you...

415
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Like did I just get got?

416
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Before we go any further it gets really morbid here but what would you do with $30 million?

417
00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,640
Can we just talk about that for a minute?

418
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Man, I'd like, I don't even know.

419
00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:14,920
Okay, but the way I was brought up, like I am a frugal person and I also, I enjoy the

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finer things but I wouldn't go crazy.

421
00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,000
I don't like a big house.

422
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Like I would buy, you know, bigger than what I'm in.

423
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But not that much.

424
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Like not like crazy.

425
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I like a cozy.

426
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I'd buy myself my dream cars.

427
00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,240
I'd probably donate a lot.

428
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I'd buy my parents, my parents love their home.

429
00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,040
They'd probably stay in their house but buy them their dream cars.

430
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,960
I'd buy my dad a new boat.

431
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Like oh my god, spoil my cats, spoil Simon, buy him his dream cars.

432
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Like everybody get a car.

433
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You get a car.

434
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You get a car.

435
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Literally I'd have like four cars.

436
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Probably do something and honor Ryan.

437
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Like a lot.

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You just go off.

439
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Like I'd literally like-

440
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It sounds like you have the same kind of heart that William Shakespeare would have.

441
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I mean William Shakespeare, that did not just say that.

442
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Oh god.

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It sounds like you would have the same kind of energy that Abraham Shakespeare would

444
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have.

445
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God, William Shakespeare.

446
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Well, I think if I had $30 million.

447
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Yeah, what would you do?

448
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I think like pretty comparable to yours.

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I would probably start off, first of all, obviously pay off all the bills.

450
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Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.

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First, the debt comes first.

452
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If that student loan forgiveness doesn't come in.

453
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Oh baby.

454
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If any of you all want to send us some cash for these debts, go ahead.

455
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That's beside the point.

456
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I would definitely pay off my debts.

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I would definitely then start thinking about my future.

458
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I would think about where I'm headed.

459
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Yeah, same.

460
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Then I would probably think about obviously my family, my friends.

461
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I would want to support them.

462
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I would make sure they're comfortable.

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I think that would even come before thinking about my future and investing.

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I think I would definitely need to be safe in my composure to know that my family is

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good, my friends taking care of.

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I don't have to worry about my family suffering or anything.

467
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Then I would probably then focus on my things.

468
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I would probably think about, of course, like I said, do I want to go to college again?

469
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Do I want to spend that money on building and investing?

470
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Fun stuff?

471
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Because you know that would be used.

472
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But it's also so much money where you'd have so much left over.

473
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You would have so much that you wouldn't even know what to do with it.

474
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Let's say you get like fucking four supercars at like $100,000 piece.

475
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You're still rolling in millions.

476
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That's not even a dent.

477
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It's not a dent.

478
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It's insane.

479
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:54,640
But just wait to hear what Abraham does with his money and how this turns into...

480
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Man, I can already see this going real south.

481
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,400
Real south.

482
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And it does.

483
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And no pun intended because this is the south.

484
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,880
But wow, it's just fascinating, this story.

485
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,880
I'll keep going.

486
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All right.

487
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Tell me all about it.

488
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,880
All right.

489
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,520
Well, first of all, according to Fort Allottery rules, and I figured this was kind of an important

490
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part to throw in.

491
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Others may choose to receive a portion of the Florida Lotto Jackpots and a one-time

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cash option or a cash option or in a 30 annual payment option.

493
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So Abraham chooses the one-time lump, a lump sum payment.

494
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Period.

495
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And of course, taxes are included.

496
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So he ended up with a payout of about $16.9 million, which is obviously still a fuck ton

497
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of money.

498
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,440
But that's also almost half of it being taken away.

499
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,440
Taxes, man.

500
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,440
That's some bullshit.

501
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,440
I hate taxes.

502
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,440
I'm sorry.

503
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,440
Anyway.

504
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,440
Taxes are some lump of shit in itself.

505
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,040
If taxes was a person, I'd fight them.

506
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I knew we all would.

507
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Join forces.

508
00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,120
I love it.

509
00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:01,120
All right.

510
00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:05,320
Well, of course, as soon as he had won, the press had been all over him about being the

511
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small town man that went from extra riches overnight.

512
00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:15,640
There is that photo that the Lotto winner takes with the big checks and, well, of course,

513
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,120
post that on our Instagram again at WTLGL.

514
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Podcasts.

515
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Go for it.

516
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:32,840
But the problem is to me about this is that, and this is according to Tampa Bay Times that

517
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I found this on.

518
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,560
And it says, quote, actually, I want you to read it.

519
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,560
I'm some big letters.

520
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,560
You can't miss it.

521
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Quote, under Florida's existing law, the lottery agency immediately releases the name of winners,

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city of residence, game, date one, and amount one to anyone who requests it.

523
00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,920
It does not disclose the winner's home address or phone numbers, although such information

524
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:07,320
can usually be discovered elsewhere, such as property records or voter registration files,

525
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,680
which remain publicly accessible.

526
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,680
End quote.

527
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,680
What the fudge?

528
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,280
Yeah, that's my problem.

529
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,160
And I just want to point that out real quick.

530
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,280
Sorry, Tampa Bay Times, but that's a bitch ass move.

531
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,280
Yeah.

532
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,400
You're literally doxing him without doxing him.

533
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,880
You're like, just so you know.

534
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,880
Yeah.

535
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:28,880
Yeah.

536
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,880
Fuck you, Tampa Bay Times.

537
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:30,880
Yeah.

538
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:36,520
So that's, that was just something I needed to point out because first of all, I, I think

539
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,680
about that and I'm like, okay, this is in the early 2000s too, by the way.

540
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,520
And like we said, things are a little different, but like not much.

541
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:52,160
But the thing is, is that think about how easy it is for someone knowing your name obviously

542
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:57,680
is already on, you know, the news to then look you up and find you whether or not they

543
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,960
may put your home address out there for people to find.

544
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,560
People are still going to be able to find you whether or not like your name is the first

545
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,520
thing people need, but not only that, the fact that they put your, their, the residents,

546
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,680
your city is just crazy to me.

547
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:14,680
Okay.

548
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,040
But also like, yes, if we get a name, we can look someone up and like, sure, that's like

549
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,480
a thing that people do.

550
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,040
But this is like almost suggesting it.

551
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:29,560
Like it's like suggesting it or it's like, Hey, if you haven't thought about it, like

552
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,840
now you're thinking about it.

553
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,840
Yeah.

554
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,840
Right?

555
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,840
Yeah.

556
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,840
Like it's like, yeah, you're on the ball.

557
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,840
I'm like, oh, I'm so shitty.

558
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,840
And it's just so shitty.

559
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,840
The way they just, I agree.

560
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,200
No, I definitely agree.

561
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,880
And one press interview Abraham mentioned quote, if I lost all my money today, I'm a happy

562
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:50,240
man because I was able to achieve one of my dreams and that was to be a millionaire.

563
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,240
Stop.

564
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,040
He's so cute.

565
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,040
I know.

566
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,160
And again, hurts my heart so bad.

567
00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,800
He, it just bugs the fuck out of me because I'm like, what happens?

568
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:08,200
Basically we know the title of this episode, but I'm going to keep powering through.

569
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,880
Well two months go by, it's January 2007 and Abraham decides to purchase a home on the

570
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,640
market for $1.1 million in North Lake, land, Florida.

571
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,480
Still not even a dent.

572
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,480
Not even, I know.

573
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,520
He still got like 15.8 left.

574
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,440
Oh my God.

575
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:37,060
Now this mansion had a four car garage, a pool, and they were in Adirka, shakuzi, shakuzi,

576
00:23:37,060 --> 00:23:42,280
shark, shark, shark, shark, sharkuzi, sharkuzi.

577
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,640
I mean, where's my wine?

578
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,280
Where is your wine?

579
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,280
That's right here.

580
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,280
Fuck.

581
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,280
Okay.

582
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,240
I don't know if you heard the sounds, but that was good.

583
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,520
He said bone apple teeth.

584
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,520
God, okay.

585
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,520
Sorry.

586
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:11,080
The mansion had a four car garage, a pool, one indoor and outdoor shakuzi, and a separate

587
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,520
guest suite just to give you a brief idea of the layout.

588
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,000
So it's a pretty fucking big house.

589
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,840
And again, we're going to put this on her Instagram.

590
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,280
You can find it there.

591
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,400
He also bought his mother a home 15 minutes away.

592
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,360
She wanted to, and had hope actually that his mother would have just moved in with him,

593
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,720
but she actually did not like the house at all.

594
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,160
She actually hated it.

595
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,560
It felt way too big and it did not look to her like anything like a home.

596
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,120
It just seemed like some kind of massive resort to her.

597
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:47,480
And so she, or so he decided to just buy her a home and it was a cute bungalow just 15

598
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,640
minutes away from his house.

599
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:56,680
But let me tell you, if Abraham was one thing, he was selfless and he remained frugal, frugal

600
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,960
till the end I could say actually.

601
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,160
When it came to spending on himself outside of his home, he preferred actually to continue

602
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:10,080
shopping for clothes at shopping centers like Walmart, whereas most of people around him

603
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,680
thought he would just start shopping at high end clothing companies.

604
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,680
He continued to buy his jewelry from pawn shops and instead use his money to help build

605
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,400
affordable homes to people without the ability.

606
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:29,120
By his cousins, all new homes provided for his son by setting up a million dollar trust

607
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,120
fund.

608
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:38,200
And he even gave his longtime friend, Greg Smith, who was a local barber, a eight, sorry, 87,000

609
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:44,480
dollar business loan, 87,000 dollar business loan.

610
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,040
He's so sweet for literally all of that.

611
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,040
For all of that.

612
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,040
Whatever.

613
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,040
What's the friend's name?

614
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,800
Now his friend's name was Greg Smith.

615
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,800
Now keep that name in mind.

616
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,800
Better be grateful.

617
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,800
Keep that in mind.

618
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,800
Oh gosh.

619
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,800
Because Greg comes back later.

620
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,800
Oh God.

621
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,800
So does one other friend.

622
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,680
So just keep that in mind.

623
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,120
Now this man had to have been one of the most obviously generous people that the lottery

624
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:07,360
has ever seen win.

625
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:11,680
I couldn't ever see so many people just doing that and doing what he did.

626
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,960
Yeah, a lot of people are greedy.

627
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,960
Yeah.

628
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,560
And if you needed that help, he would help you.

629
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,440
It's just crazy to think that there are so many nice people in the world, but that is

630
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,800
a really started to hurt Abraham and it worked against him.

631
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,960
Old friends he hadn't seen since childhood associates and most of them were just random

632
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,920
people to came out of the woodworks left and right attempting to get closer and closer

633
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,920
to him.

634
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,480
And it really started to overwhelm him like it would.

635
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,800
I obviously with anyone, no matter how nice you are, it's going to overwhelm you.

636
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:47,960
So even worst part about this is that he was actively giving away this money to these people.

637
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,360
So no.

638
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:55,960
I know you just said that he still has a lot of money, but when you're giving it away like

639
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:02,920
this at this amount of rate, it's like he is so firstly just so kind.

640
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,520
Secondly, he can do whatever he damn well pieces with his money.

641
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,440
He can spend it however he wants, but it's the people that are taking advantage of him

642
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,960
and getting close to him because they know that he has the money.

643
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,960
That's so shitty.

644
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,960
Yeah.

645
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,960
That's the thing though.

646
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,960
There are so many.

647
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,960
Trying to reconnect.

648
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,960
Yeah.

649
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,480
There are so many kind of like there's so many like generous people in this world, but

650
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,480
that's the problem.

651
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,080
Like we live in a cruel world where people will take advantage of you in a heartbeat.

652
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,000
And it's literally proven by this man by this.

653
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,760
I mean, let this be the story of anything to show you that he had to be really careful

654
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,880
in this world because people will take advantage of your niceness like that.

655
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,120
I'm not saying be an asshole, but I'm saying also.

656
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:47,840
Watch your energy to get.

657
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,840
Yeah.

658
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Exactly.

659
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,000
Like you said, like quote that like seriously though.

660
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,120
Now the pressure from the world even got so bad that one night people would literally

661
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,680
walk onto his property.

662
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,120
No, I'm knocking at his door bothering this poor man.

663
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,920
That night it scared him out of his house.

664
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,560
So he stayed with his friend Greg and Greg will later recount Abraham retelling him quote,

665
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,720
I wish I ain't had no money unquote.

666
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,960
And it just, it's just like this man is just enjoying it.

667
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,000
He thought it's just like another thing that really hit me when I like was researching

668
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,680
this was that I feel like it's not obviously only me and I feel like it's a lot of young

669
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,480
people too because we're young and we're still learning.

670
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:39,360
But like I always forget that money isn't the end up be all, you know, this is the story

671
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:45,560
to again, if not anything else that shows you that money can always buy you happiness.

672
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,960
It seemed like it was kind of weighing on, you know, Abraham because of the fact that

673
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,800
he felt like he was losing his like his respect for everybody.

674
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,440
Everyone just saw him for his money.

675
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,760
Everyone just saw him for one thing only and that was the fact that he was a millionaire.

676
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,920
Especially too, because he's such like a genuine guy too, he doesn't care about the money,

677
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,840
cares about friendship, you know.

678
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Yeah, exactly.

679
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,080
And oh, I just fixed my heart.

680
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:16,520
So in April of 2007, five months after winning the lottery, Abraham meets 27 year old Centeria

681
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:22,420
Butler, who Abraham's family was kind of skeptical of at first for good reason.

682
00:29:22,420 --> 00:29:28,440
She was younger and she wasn't prior, she wasn't with him prior to the winnings.

683
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,960
But Abraham really liked this girl and eventually in a year later in 2008, she give birth to

684
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Abraham's second son.

685
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,840
So they had another baby boy come in the world.

686
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:46,080
So now that Abraham has a second child with Centoria, he realizes he has no money being

687
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,440
saved and he starts to get a little anxious because a lot of the responsibilities are

688
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:56,240
being piled on him at once and he's been helping all these people all the while.

689
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,240
So really starts, you know, he really starts filling it and yeah, the pressure and he was

690
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:09,360
so actually generous that he managed to end up with $2 million left at this point.

691
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,760
Mind you, he started with 16.

692
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,760
Almost 17.

693
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,760
They were 16.9.

694
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,760
Yeah, 16.9.

695
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,160
So let's round out to 17.

696
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,960
$17 million.

697
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,640
He is now only two years later left with $2 million.

698
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,440
That's so unfortunate.

699
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,800
It's just really sad.

700
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:35,680
And so in October of 2008, a lady contacts Abraham that claims to be a very successful

701
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:43,400
businesswoman named Doris Moore, who is most known as Dee Dee.

702
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,040
She heard his story and wants to write a book about his story.

703
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:52,040
So let's hold up a sec and just talk about Dee Dee Moore for a second.

704
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:59,480
Well, Dee Dee was a fordagal that was also growing up learning how to help people.

705
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,400
She always wanted to actually help people, which is kind of ironic considering what we

706
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,120
might know later.

707
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,040
Growing up, she always knew she wanted to become a nurse.

708
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,920
She was always a high achieving student, got her license and CNA, which I think is a medical

709
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,960
term, don't know, medical people, let me know.

710
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,760
And it really wanted to do some good for the world.

711
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:26,880
So one thing about Dee Dee growing up was that she was always embarrassed that her friends

712
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,600
and their families had money while her family was a low income household.

713
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:38,240
But Dee Dee always knew that she needed to work her way up, getting to that special point.

714
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,120
So she just started working basically.

715
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Although along the way, her family would consider that she would pull a lot of shady schemes

716
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,320
and she would do in order to just get a little more extra change in her wallet.

717
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,440
But they never asked questions.

718
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Sus.

719
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,760
I don't like this lady already.

720
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,760
Yeah.

721
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,920
So sometime in the mid 90s, she worked for a medical staffing company and really did well

722
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,920
there.

723
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,440
And while there, Dee Dee had a side hustle working at Nextel.

724
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,960
I think that's some kind of phone company.

725
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,000
Oh my God, I remember Nextel.

726
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Nextel, yeah.

727
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,600
I was like young to know about that too.

728
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,600
I've heard of it before.

729
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Oh my God, that's so old.

730
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,280
Well, here she started really getting down her strong business skills, which led to her

731
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,320
and a co-worker to start a medical business called American Medical Professionals LLC.

732
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,240
Oh, good for them.

733
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Now this co-worker of hers was the president and Dee Dee was a vice president.

734
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,000
And everything had been working really well for this new business of theirs for years.

735
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,800
She actually or eventually suggests opening a branch in Plant City, Florida.

736
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,880
She felt that the area would be best supported by their business.

737
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,560
And so her team and her agreed.

738
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:59,000
And then she just starts moving there and says of the same project.

739
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,000
She's not very far.

740
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,640
I don't think she's still in Florida.

741
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,120
I think she just started to move there.

742
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:10,760
And so everything is working great for some time until the co-workers she started the

743
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,880
LLC with and other team members quickly begin to notice that the company has oddly been

744
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,720
losing her money from the company's budget, but stopped seeing any progress.

745
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,240
So they are like, all right, what's going on?

746
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,520
They launch an internal investigation and soon find out that Dee Dee has taken about

747
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:35,960
$62,000 in payroll schemes from this company that she started right before the trial of

748
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:41,240
the American medical professionals LLC versus Doris Moore.

749
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Somehow the main branch of her company just so happens to catch fire and all the files

750
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,480
the company had against her just went up in flames as well.

751
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,480
Convenience.

752
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,120
How convenient, right?

753
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,720
It's very convenient.

754
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,000
So the years after got pretty hard for Dee Dee.

755
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,960
After this, she obviously was fired from this company that she created.

756
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,680
I was about to say her own company, girl.

757
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:12,480
Fire from Maxdale and was banned from ever selling phones for any phone company.

758
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Damn.

759
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Didn't even notice it being a toy right that eventually Dee Dee and her then husband James

760
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,760
had to file for bankruptcy because they had been falling so far behind their bills and

761
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,280
following was their divorce.

762
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:32,600
In 2006, she eventually found a new boyfriend while co-parenting her son, which brings

763
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:42,480
us back to where we were before in October of 2008 when Dee Dee reaches out to Abraham.

764
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:52,640
So Abraham is told from Dee Dee that this is a very successful business woman that wants

765
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,200
to write a book about his story.

766
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,280
So they both agree to it and they want to meet in more detail, right?

767
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,560
So Abraham brings his girlfriend Centoria and they meet up at some restaurant sitting

768
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,040
on a patio getting to know one another and while getting to know Dee Dee, Abraham is

769
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,280
quite intrigued to hear how successful Dee Dee is.

770
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:19,960
She explains how she is the president and the owner of her own business called American

771
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Medical Professionals.

772
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,600
She's divorced with a teen son named RJ.

773
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,840
So Abraham and Centoria are impressed and they hire her.

774
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,440
I don't know if you all caught that lie, but it's in there.

775
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,280
I caught it.

776
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,760
Within days, she was over the house daily, learning more and more about Abraham, his

777
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:48,120
lifestyle, his family, and Dee Dee is learning a lot of things, one of which she learned

778
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,600
how badly Abraham has been saving his money or handling his money in general and how much

779
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,560
it's bothering him.

780
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:00,080
So Dee Dee goes, hey, it just so happens, I'm a really good financial advisor.

781
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,200
I can definitely help you with your finances.

782
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,200
Convenient.

783
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,600
Again.

784
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,520
A lot of people over the years had smindled Abraham already and he knew he needed the

785
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,560
help so he just didn't apply.

786
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,840
She was like, okay, cool, let's just do it.

787
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,840
Let's get into it.

788
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:17,840
Yeah.

789
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,520
Oh my God.

790
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,640
I feel so bad for this poor man.

791
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,640
I feel terrible.

792
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,200
I actually feel terrible for this poor man.

793
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,720
And look at pictures.

794
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:31,760
Don't look at pictures because I keep saying look at our Instagram.

795
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,760
But like, we see pictures of him.

796
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,520
WTLGO podcast on Instagram.

797
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,680
We go on there and you'll just see his beautiful smile and he has like the most, like, you

798
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,040
have to know how gracious and like so nice he is.

799
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,960
And then you put it without smile and like, you're just like, oh, like, I just want to

800
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,960
get to know him.

801
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Like, I feel like he'll like tell you a good story or something.

802
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,960
Like a speed man.

803
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:58,600
So not long after this initial conversation, just days later, Dee Dee poses a question

804
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:04,400
to Abraham and says, I think that we should create an investment company together.

805
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,680
She says this will be how we make most of the money back and I'll start record.

806
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,680
Sorry.

807
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,400
I'll also start recollecting the loans that everyone owes you.

808
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,040
Knowing good and well, Abraham does not know shit about how to start an investment company.

809
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,040
She asks this question anyways.

810
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:27,240
He says, okay, and not even three months later, Dee Dee manages all of Abraham's assets, all

811
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,240
of his assets.

812
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,000
You should never let anyone manage all of your assets.

813
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Not at all.

814
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,480
And again, unfortunately, Abraham's circumstance, I think he was just like, you know what, someone's

815
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,800
here, someone's here to help me like, they didn't know any better.

816
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:47,760
And I feel like a broken record saying this, but like, I feel bad because like he's a nice

817
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,040
person probably assuming that someone's going to do something nice back for them.

818
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Yeah, he finally like got a win, you know, he got a win and he's happy.

819
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,400
He's like, of course now, like it's working for me.

820
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,840
And then Dee Dee.

821
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,480
Fucking Dee Dee.

822
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,680
Fucking Dee Dee.

823
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,760
All of this money that belonged to Abraham said in the hands of Dee Dee through this

824
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,440
investment company that she manages, she started spending so much time at his house that her

825
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,960
boyfriend and son would literally come over and hang out whenever they chose to.

826
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,960
No.

827
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,960
Ffff.

828
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Ffff.

829
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,960
Affing way.

830
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Literally, I'm not kidding you.

831
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,960
No, Affing way.

832
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,000
I think Abraham was kind of friendly about this because he befriended this woman and initially

833
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,360
she was supposed to be writing this book and then here she is doing everything else for

834
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,360
him.

835
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Yeah.

836
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:41,000
So I think they just adapted a person like a, a relationship and he kind of was like,

837
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,000
okay, it's fine.

838
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000
I know.

839
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Like, she's my friend.

840
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,800
I think he's so friendly too.

841
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,520
For him, for him, it's like a new friend, you know, new friends.

842
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Yes.

843
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Yes.

844
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,520
And probably his son to play with his son.

845
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,720
To play with his son when he has to split over.

846
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:56,720
Yeah.

847
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:57,960
And they were about the same age too.

848
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Yeah, exactly.

849
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,520
They're maybe a couple of years difference, but they're about the same age.

850
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,280
So it's like kind of works for both of them.

851
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,280
Yeah.

852
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,280
Exactly.

853
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,280
Well, I suppose so I guess.

854
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,280
Yeah.

855
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,080
And I think you guys are catching on to Dee Dee if you haven't already.

856
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,080
Fucking Dee Dee.

857
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,160
Oh, it gets crazier though.

858
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,160
So tune in.

859
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Cause fortunately to add Abraham situation had already been bad enough before Dee Dee

860
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,640
came into the picture because he had already been losing the house.

861
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,120
He lost so much money that he can afford to keep up with the house.

862
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:36,640
So the plan was that Centoria would move out and stay with some family with her son.

863
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,040
And then Abraham would stay back at home to have him and Dee Dee try selling the home

864
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,920
while they looked for a smaller home to move into.

865
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,200
So not a bigger home, but like a smaller home that's more affordable to keep up with.

866
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,200
That's smart.

867
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,200
Yeah.

868
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,960
Abraham was cool with this plan.

869
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,160
He didn't care as long as he could be in a house that housed him and his family.

870
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,560
That's all he cared about.

871
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,560
So Centoria moves out and he's starting to get Dee Dee's help with selling this house.

872
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,760
Abraham really starts getting excited and higher spirited again because he's finally

873
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,000
feeling we're stable.

874
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,520
But Dee Dee really starts suggesting that Abraham not leave the house at all.

875
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,400
She suggests that if he kept leaving the house to visit his children or even go to the grocery

876
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:25,240
store, then he'll just be harassed by more people and this will never have its resolution.

877
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:29,960
He says, okay, I'll just sit back and just, you know, let you do all the work.

878
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,520
It's cool if you really want to do it.

879
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,000
And she's like, yeah, I'll jump in.

880
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,400
So after a month goes by around March of 2009, Dee Dee convinces Abraham since the house

881
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:47,480
isn't selling for some odd reason, quote unquote, to just sign over the house to her.

882
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,480
No!

883
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,480
What?

884
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,480
Oh my God.

885
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:57,520
And not the company that they made, by the way, her company, American medical professionals.

886
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,160
In that way, the burden of his home is just lifted.

887
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,320
I know.

888
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,320
I know.

889
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,800
I know, girl.

890
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,840
At this point, Dee Dee wastes no time moving her things into the house and begins renovating

891
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,840
the home.

892
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,840
Yeah, of course.

893
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:18,080
Again, nothing about this bothers Abraham because in his eyes, she's getting rid of

894
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,080
the problem.

895
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,080
She's helping.

896
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,080
Yeah.

897
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:26,880
So he's in fact so happy about this that, according to Dee Dee, Abraham just decides

898
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,720
to go on some kind of victory travel.

899
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:35,000
It actually isn't super random that Abraham actually choose to travel around this, maybe

900
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,360
not around this time, but in general, because Abraham had actually always wanted to travel

901
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,360
the world.

902
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,040
He made that really known to his family.

903
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,400
He made that really known to his friends.

904
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:50,120
But what was odd was that, why would Abraham choose to leave his family behind, especially

905
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,280
without even a goodbye?

906
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:58,600
Well, Dee Dee Moore being the closest to him and the closest in contact with Abraham,

907
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:04,560
sure to anyone trying to reach him, he was so stressed out from everyone asking him for

908
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:10,080
money and thought it was best that he get away and go off the grip for a while.

909
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Yeah, without talking to his mom, without talking to his mom, without talking to his

910
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,720
girlfriend who has his baby, who he loved.

911
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:21,080
Yeah, no, I don't believe that for one second.

912
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Thank you.

913
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,360
And Dee Dee maintained that Abraham was sending her text messages and insisting that everything

914
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,840
was okay.

915
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,280
Family and friends were a little skeptical at first because it was weird.

916
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:38,000
Abraham was not the type of guy to average us up and leave, not even at his lowest low,

917
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,240
but at the same time they knew that he was really stressed out at the time.

918
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:47,080
And they thought maybe he just really needed to get away for a while, so they accepted

919
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,040
that for a minute.

920
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,920
Abraham's cousin, Cedric Edon, was collided saying, quote, he did mention wanting to leave

921
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,240
town.

922
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:59,960
We wanted to help him because everybody else's dream he was trying to fill and never had

923
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,400
time for himself, unquote.

924
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,440
That's when Dee Dee's alleged interactions between her and Abraham started getting a

925
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:13,440
little more suspicious because now his worried loved ones began receiving text messages from

926
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,440
Abraham saying, quote, I don't think I'll be coming back.

927
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,440
And how he doesn't want to keep paying for child support.

928
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,960
Oh my God.

929
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:33,080
I'm just scratching my head because it's like, huh.

930
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,480
This is news to Centauria because last time she tracked, she was upset, oh sorry, he was

931
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,680
obsessed with his newborn baby.

932
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,760
And he could even bear to be apart from his oldest son.

933
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,280
Abraham's mother found it especially weird because when reading the text message that

934
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:54,280
he sent to her, she realized that the text message had little to no grammatical error

935
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,280
or punctuation mistakes.

936
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,480
True perfect.

937
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,240
Keep in mind, he didn't write that shit.

938
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:01,240
He's illiterate.

939
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:02,440
Yeah, he didn't write that shit.

940
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,120
He didn't write that shit.

941
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Six months go by.

942
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,520
Still no one had seen or heard from Abraham except for Dee Dee.

943
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,200
So his cousin Cedric finally reports Abraham's Shakespeare and missing person.

944
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,400
When investigators first started looking into this case, they felt that it was not super

945
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,920
out of the ordinary for a lottery ticket winner to take their money and leave the country.

946
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,880
They did look at a long list of people that Abraham lent money to, but everyone checked

947
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,880
out.

948
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,720
They were not finding many labels, sorry, many leads.

949
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:38,000
And not surprisingly, here comes Dee Dee, readily available to give cops any information

950
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,160
they need.

951
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,240
She has it there.

952
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:43,000
She tells officers.

953
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,840
He left at his own expense and he didn't tell her where he was going, but she knew

954
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,640
he needed to get away from all the chaos in his life.

955
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,960
Cedric tells police he was skeptical of Dee Dee because she was the last one that obviously

956
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,480
seemed alive.

957
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,160
And Dee Dee randomly asked Cedric, not even a couple days before he caught the police,

958
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,960
to give Abraham's mother a private card of Abraham.

959
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:13,880
When she opened it, it was a goodbye card with $100 inside.

960
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,080
So that's really questionable as to why he would want to do that.

961
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:23,000
So investigators are like, okay, we need to look into this Dee Dee check.

962
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,280
Who the fuck is she?

963
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Not a direct quote, but you can imagine.

964
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:35,240
So they bring her back and for questioning, Dee Dee just tells them, I just do what Abraham

965
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,040
hired me for.

966
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,800
And then she tells police unnecessary information about Abraham.

967
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:47,360
Dee Dee then gives the missing person's unit a video tape and on it she's recording Abraham

968
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:53,480
with a camcorder with one of those early 2000 camcorders.

969
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,000
And it's actually him.

970
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,640
It's him in the video.

971
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,000
He's wearing a white t-shirt and he had dreadlocks.

972
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,080
So he kind of had it wrapped up in like a do-rag.

973
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,400
And it looks like he's texting at the moment and Dee Dee's like asking him.

974
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,800
She's holding the camera towards him and she asks, hey, you want to get out of here?

975
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,360
He says, yeah, let's get out of here.

976
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,580
Dee Dee says, well, where do you want to go?

977
00:46:20,580 --> 00:46:23,440
You want to get away from everyone asking you for money?

978
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,920
He says, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

979
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Let's go.

980
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:27,920
Let's go.

981
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,320
She says, you get tired of people asking you for money all the time.

982
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,000
Give me your opinion on it.

983
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,320
Dee says, quote, I've been tired.

984
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,000
I've been tired a year ago.

985
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,520
She says, are you going to miss your home?

986
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,520
Yep.

987
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,480
I'll miss it.

988
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,920
But time goes on.

989
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,680
I'm stomped on that video because this is actually, obviously this is actual video.

990
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,680
Actor.

991
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,960
It sounds like an act.

992
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,800
So I saw this through the documentary I was watching.

993
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,920
I don't know a ton about everything before and after because you never can really get

994
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,000
the whole story.

995
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,840
But it's weird because knowing Abraham was such a dedicated person in general and then

996
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:18,720
he just decides to like, this be like, you know, I'm, you know, go with leaving, whatever.

997
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:19,720
You know, it's fine.

998
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:21,520
I'll just leave and I don't know.

999
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,400
It's just odd.

1000
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,040
So I don't know.

1001
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,160
But apparently it's a police that checks out.

1002
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,240
So before the night, Dee Dee went to the station.

1003
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:32,920
She fucked up.

1004
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,280
She went to Centoria and asked her if she could tell the police Abraham randomly stopped

1005
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,960
by angry that got into a screaming match and he left.

1006
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,360
So of course, Centoria is like, what the fuck?

1007
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,920
No, like I'm not going to tell my, I'm not going to tell the police that the father of

1008
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,080
my children that's missing is just came when he didn't.

1009
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,080
And what the fuck?

1010
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Like where is my husband?

1011
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,080
Where's my boyfriend?

1012
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,080
What the fuck is going on?

1013
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,440
Why do you want me to do that?

1014
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,440
Yeah, of course.

1015
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,960
So Centoria the next day, obviously goes to the police and told them what Dee Dee told

1016
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,960
her.

1017
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:11,360
Investigators did hone in on one suspect that Dee Dee had helped direct the investigators

1018
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,120
to, which was Abraham's old friend, Michael Ford.

1019
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,480
Now if you don't remember, Michael Ford had been the guy that went and helped him get

1020
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,280
the lottery ticket, the $2 dollar lottery tickets.

1021
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,920
What I didn't tell you about that was that Abraham had won the lottery and his friend

1022
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Michael actually tried suing him.

1023
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,440
This is right after he won the lottery.

1024
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,240
He felt that since he was the one to go in physically by the ticket, he was the owner

1025
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:41,720
of the winnings.

1026
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:46,960
But in court, the judge quickly ruled out Abraham being the sole owner of the winnings.

1027
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,400
So Dee Dee says, yeah, he did it.

1028
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,640
He's the one who did this.

1029
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,640
Okay.

1030
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,600
I'm backtracking.

1031
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,360
It was literally Abraham's money.

1032
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,360
So it's Abraham's winning.

1033
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,360
It was literally his $2.

1034
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,480
Yeah, like it's literally Abraham's winning.

1035
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,480
Yes.

1036
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,480
Thank you.

1037
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,720
So obviously we know that this guy just literally wasn't a friend to him at all.

1038
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:07,720
Silly goofy.

1039
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:08,720
Silly goofy guy.

1040
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:09,720
Silly goofy.

1041
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:10,720
Silly goofy guy.

1042
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:12,040
Like, not a good guy.

1043
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,720
It just, again, comes to show you people will act when it comes to money.

1044
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:17,600
Like people will show their true colors.

1045
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:23,440
Also can we talk about how literally if Michael asked Abraham for some money that Abraham

1046
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,280
literally would have given it to him.

1047
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:32,760
Not saying that like he should have or was a good idea or that he deserves it.

1048
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:38,000
But like according to his track record, like looking at all of it seems like he was pretty

1049
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,000
giving.

1050
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,000
Yeah.

1051
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,000
He's pretty giving.

1052
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Michael, I mean, I'm sorry, not Michael.

1053
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,840
He didn't have to sue them guy.

1054
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,480
Abraham would have given him money had he not done that.

1055
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,480
I would assure you.

1056
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,280
Oh, I like I'm shocked.

1057
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,560
Let me tell you if I'm trying to come up at me and was like, let me see you because

1058
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,720
I because you gave me my money, your money to get something.

1059
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,400
Yeah, we go out.

1060
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,760
Money, my guy.

1061
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,160
Literally.

1062
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,840
So Michael, fortunately for him, had an alibi because he didn't live in Florida at the

1063
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,040
time of Abraham's disappearance.

1064
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,960
He actually moved to Georgia.

1065
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,240
So the main suspect just goes right back to Dede.

1066
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:19,600
So police are like, all right, we need to track the calls Abraham has made to Dede.

1067
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:26,880
They found out that Abraham's phone peaked last from a tower near his home and found

1068
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,840
that it's been turned off and turned on over and over again.

1069
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:31,840
Suspicious.

1070
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,840
Suspicious.

1071
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:33,840
Bullery touching stuff.

1072
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,840
Mm hmm.

1073
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,480
She's playing with the metal bit.

1074
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,480
Oh, I see.

1075
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,560
Obviously, the police needed more evidence on Dede, so they secretly placed a checker

1076
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,560
onto her car.

1077
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,560
As they should.

1078
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,440
Yeah, the next time she can in a station is put on her car.

1079
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,840
But this next note is just wild.

1080
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,640
It gets even more wild if you can't even imagine.

1081
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:03,840
So just two days after Christmas in 2009, Dede goes to pay Abraham's mother a visit.

1082
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:11,240
While she does, Abraham's mom receives a hot call and picks it up.

1083
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:15,040
The person answers and says, hey, mom, it's me, Abraham.

1084
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,840
Please don't call the police.

1085
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,520
I just want to be away.

1086
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:23,800
Tell the police you'll never see me again.

1087
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:30,040
So the worried mother, elderly mother, mind you, obviously calls the police immediately

1088
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,920
and tells her, I'm tells the police what she's heard on the phone and says to her,

1089
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,880
this obviously is not my son.

1090
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,760
Yeah, really.

1091
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:44,640
So the police tracked down the call made to his mother, Elizabeth Walker, to the least

1092
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,040
expected character to return to the story.

1093
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,960
The call came from Greg Smith.

1094
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:59,000
If you remember, it's a barber friend that Abraham gave $87,000 to in loans for his barber

1095
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,000
shop business.

1096
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,600
Because they were friends.

1097
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,160
And how is he going to do that?

1098
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,160
Oh my God.

1099
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,760
Boo's looking at me like, what the fuck?

1100
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,760
What the fuck?

1101
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,760
It's all on people.

1102
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,960
Because then tracked down Greg himself to a busy shopping mall parking lot while on

1103
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,320
a stakeout to find Greg.

1104
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,320
Probably spent $87,000.

1105
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,760
Let me tell you, he beer buy whatever was left over.

1106
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,760
He better be doing some some good stuff with that because I'm telling you the fact that

1107
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:34,040
he's caught in this lie right now is fucking taking me to my avenue.

1108
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:39,720
So just so happens, they see instead good old Dee Dee pulling up to the parking lot.

1109
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:40,720
Oh my God.

1110
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:45,720
You said I can't with this bitch.

1111
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:47,560
Oh my God.

1112
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,560
Of all people, right?

1113
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,560
Oh my God.

1114
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,560
Of all people.

1115
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,560
Well.

1116
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,560
Honestly, like disappointed but not surprised.

1117
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,560
Yeah.

1118
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,560
Honestly, are we?

1119
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Disappointed but not surprised.

1120
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:03,000
And so instead they follow her, they follow her car to see where she parks.

1121
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,000
She parks.

1122
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,120
And she parks right next to Greg Smith.

1123
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:14,560
She then gets out of her car, goes into his and hands him a wad of cash, gets out and

1124
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,060
then drives off.

1125
00:53:16,060 --> 00:53:18,360
So the officers are like, look at me.

1126
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,360
I'm not suspicious at all.

1127
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,360
I'm sure they're looking at each other.

1128
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,360
You see that?

1129
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,360
Yeah.

1130
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,360
You see that?

1131
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,360
You see the shit?

1132
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,360
You saw that shit, right?

1133
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,360
T. T.

1134
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:37,080
So of course, like I said, the investigators get off this car.

1135
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:43,640
And they confront Greg as to why he had made this call first of all to Abraham's grandmother

1136
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,600
pretending to be Abraham.

1137
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,280
To clarify, the call was to the mother, not the grandmother.

1138
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,280
Yes.

1139
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,280
I'm sorry if I said grandmother.

1140
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,280
God.

1141
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,280
Insert.

1142
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,280
Insert correction here.

1143
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,800
Thank you for correcting that for me.

1144
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:56,800
And oh yeah.

1145
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,760
Why the hell is he with DD Moore handling a wad of cash?

1146
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,760
No.

1147
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,760
For.2 seconds.

1148
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,600
That's not the most suspicious thing in the world ever.

1149
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:07,600
Yeah.

1150
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,600
So quickly, without any hesitation, Greg comes forward and tells police.

1151
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:17,760
DD came to me and told me if I call Abraham's mother and I act as Abraham, DD would pay

1152
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,040
me $5,000.

1153
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,060
So police were actually super worried about Greg.

1154
00:54:24,060 --> 00:54:28,400
He was simply just a shit friend that took advantage of the situation.

1155
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,000
But police were not letting this go.

1156
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:36,120
They still wanted Greg to help catch DD in a confession for knowing the whereabouts of

1157
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,120
Abraham.

1158
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,320
Sight note.

1159
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:44,720
While this is all happening, one investigator is on the case doing a deep dive into who DD

1160
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:46,100
really is.

1161
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:50,000
He found out that she had been fired from her company.

1162
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,840
She was accused of several thefts, frauds, and arson.

1163
00:54:53,840 --> 00:55:00,100
In addition, she actually had been arrested before for insurance fraud after accusing several

1164
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:05,560
men of raping her or for stealing her car.

1165
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,800
Until she never had to plan to write that book, by the way, that was something.

1166
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,240
We believe survivors, but I don't think she's a survivor.

1167
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:15,240
She's not.

1168
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:16,240
That's a blatant lie, right?

1169
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:17,240
Yeah.

1170
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:18,240
No, it's a blatant lie.

1171
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:20,560
I actually dug deep into that.

1172
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,920
So basically with that, she had known these guys.

1173
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,600
They weren't any people out of the ordinary.

1174
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:37,000
Basically what she had done is she had basically set up a scheme where she was able to fortunately

1175
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,800
act like she was a victim of rape.

1176
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,760
I meant to say we believe victims, not survivors.

1177
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,760
No.

1178
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,760
Yeah.

1179
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,760
We believe victims.

1180
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,760
Sorry.

1181
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,760
Yeah, we believe victims.

1182
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,760
Correction.

1183
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,760
Continue, sir.

1184
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,080
But I think it was an investigator who had actually honed in on this and found out that

1185
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,800
she was just lying about all this.

1186
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,520
So that just came out and she was kind of pinned for it.

1187
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,520
She got caught.

1188
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,240
Just crazy people out there.

1189
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:06,720
Because that's just discrediting all the people that actually did experience it.

1190
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:07,720
Yes.

1191
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:08,720
So shitty.

1192
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:09,720
Exactly.

1193
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:14,160
So authorities started out a plan to use Greg since Dee Dee doesn't know much about

1194
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,960
what the police know.

1195
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,760
And so they placed a wire into an empty drink can.

1196
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,200
They then gave him to meet up with Dee Dee at a gas station.

1197
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,960
During this discussion, the police got nothing to work with from this conversation.

1198
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,880
I mean, there are like some subtle hints, but nothing to pin her on.

1199
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:37,440
But before wrapping up the conversation, Dee Dee says, quote, I'm being blamed for Abraham's

1200
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,440
disappearance.

1201
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,480
I would pay for someone to take the rap for it if I could, unquote.

1202
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,360
This dumb bitch.

1203
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,080
This dumb, stupid.

1204
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,280
My brain actually.

1205
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,720
I guess thinking what I'm thinking, like.

1206
00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:57,720
I mean, who?

1207
00:56:57,720 --> 00:56:59,480
She's so guilty.

1208
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,800
This is enough information for investigators to attain a subpoena for Dee Dee's phone

1209
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,800
records.

1210
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:10,560
And they do in fact find that her phone was pinged off with the same cell towers as Abraham's.

1211
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:15,120
And they get investigators are now like, we are pretty confident Dee Dee's behind all

1212
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,120
of us.

1213
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,080
Now we just need to have a location of his whereabouts.

1214
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,360
So investigators turn Dee Dee's wish into their command.

1215
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,800
Those have Greg called Dee Dee back the following day to tell her that he has a cousin that

1216
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:35,280
already is a criminal or sorry, that already has a criminal record and is willing to go

1217
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,280
to jail if she paid him $50,000.

1218
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,280
But what?

1219
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:45,600
No, this is what wait and provided the locations that Abraham's whereabouts to really sell

1220
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,480
the story to police.

1221
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,480
Okay.

1222
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:54,800
So what I'm saying is, is he's willing to go to jail as long as he pays, she pays him

1223
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:55,800
$50,000.

1224
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:56,800
How is he supposed to use it?

1225
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,800
But listen, listen, listen, I get to finish.

1226
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,800
I didn't get to finish yet.

1227
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:00,800
Okay, I'm sorry.

1228
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,360
It just doesn't make sense.

1229
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,360
Okay.

1230
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,360
Yeah, it's going to make sense.

1231
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,360
I promise.

1232
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,360
Okay.

1233
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,760
She's like, all right, but don't bring your cousin yet.

1234
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,760
Just meet me alone at the gas station and we will drive over.

1235
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,360
What she didn't know is that that police, that that cousin was a police officer undercover.

1236
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,360
Okay, period.

1237
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,600
That makes sense.

1238
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:27,280
Well, what the like, I mean, that should have been red flag because who is taking the rap

1239
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,760
for money when they're not going to be able to spend the money.

1240
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,040
But then again, who's calling the family member, the person that's missing.

1241
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:37,000
And then it's like, Hey, can you lie to police for me?

1242
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:42,040
So I feel like DD is just a dumb bitch in general that can't even see no from right.

1243
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,040
I don't like.

1244
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,040
I see no lies here.

1245
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,040
Oh, okay.

1246
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,720
I just dropped a tablet.

1247
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,720
Um, five.

1248
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,720
Where'd I go?

1249
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,720
I probably said what's the one meme where it's like, and then my head hit the floor.

1250
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,680
Oh, my God.

1251
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:01,680
That's a funny one.

1252
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,960
If you guys haven't seen that, that's funny.

1253
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,560
So Greg, sorry, I found it.

1254
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,560
Okay.

1255
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,680
So Greg rides with DD from Lakeland to Plain City where it seems she has purchased a new

1256
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,760
house completely separate from the one Abraham sold to her company.

1257
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,160
A whole ass different house.

1258
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:26,360
She walks him around to the backyard to a large cement slab in the back and says, that's

1259
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,360
so suspicious.

1260
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:35,040
Like I already know what like, is that not painfully obvious?

1261
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:42,240
Well, DD tells Abraham quote, tell your boy to take six feet down.

1262
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,600
And you'll find Abraham's body.

1263
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:44,600
Yeah.

1264
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,760
Fucking clearly because there's a big ass cement slab in the back of her house.

1265
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,920
That's fresh and newly poured.

1266
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:59,560
So DD's dumb ass walks away, comes back out the house with a whole ass, 38 caliber gun

1267
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,240
and tells Greg she got it from the person that used it to kill Abraham and needs his

1268
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,280
cousin to get rid of it.

1269
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:12,000
At this point, investigators want to wait till DD leaves the home so they could do a

1270
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,480
sweep of the house without DD being aware, but they know who their girl is.

1271
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:24,600
So on January 25th, 2010, they returned to DD's home, sorry, her second home, dug up

1272
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:30,360
the concrete where six feet under had been the badly decayed body of Abraham.

1273
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,920
He suffered two bullet wounds to the chest.

1274
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:39,400
Police returned to Abraham's old home where they in fact found Miss DD completely surprised

1275
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,120
and confused about what was going on.

1276
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,640
She was then arrested on the charges of Abraham Shakespeare's murder.

1277
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:52,640
Per usual, DD conjures up stories during her videotaped interrogation.

1278
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,720
Her story also kept changing.

1279
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,600
First thing, three guys came in and shot him.

1280
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,800
Took everything we had and the safe and left with it.

1281
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,120
They put a gun in my mouth.

1282
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,440
I peed my pants.

1283
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,880
I was scared.

1284
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,480
They forced me to cover up this crime scene.

1285
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,520
She did provide a name to these men.

1286
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:15,320
She listed off and they did actually exist, but her alibi is checked out.

1287
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,040
I mean, their alibi is checked out.

1288
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:23,040
So she then says, Abraham got super mad at me and he and I just had to shoot him in

1289
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,040
defense.

1290
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,600
Ma'am, you cannot just change your fucking out.

1291
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,640
Oh my God, what's like more suspicious?

1292
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,720
That's not how this works.

1293
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,720
She's not.

1294
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,440
She like thought that she covered and like she thought she covered up.

1295
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:39,440
Yeah.

1296
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,440
She saw all her teeth, not at all her eyes.

1297
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,320
Like she thought that like she was doing a good job or that she was a good criminal

1298
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,360
or whatever, but she is so messy.

1299
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,880
She's so fucking messy.

1300
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,880
She's so messy with it.

1301
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,080
She fucked up a long time ago.

1302
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:58,080
And it's just, it's just like girl, like first of all, okay, you made, you made out

1303
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,080
one story.

1304
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,800
You almost got by on that too.

1305
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,880
That three man story about the burglars.

1306
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:03,880
They checked it.

1307
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:04,880
The people existed.

1308
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,800
You can't just make up a whole another fucking story and think that, oh, oh yeah.

1309
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,800
Okay.

1310
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:10,800
That makes more sense.

1311
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,800
Thank you for coming forward.

1312
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,800
That just makes you look more suspicious.

1313
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,480
What the fuck is wrong with people?

1314
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,480
Like what?

1315
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:23,280
Wait, I would just like to add that I'm glad that she's like stupid because she got caught.

1316
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,280
I am too.

1317
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,280
I am too.

1318
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,920
Like, like let me like clarify that.

1319
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:27,920
Very easily.

1320
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:33,120
And that does make me actually really happy because I'm like, she, who this bitch, this

1321
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:40,640
bitch, well, while DJ is trying to say face, investigators are interviewing other people

1322
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:46,560
around her and then they stumble across her ex-husband, James Moore, and they find some

1323
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,880
pretty juicy piece of information from this.

1324
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:55,760
James mentions that shortly before Abraham's disappearance, DD paid him to dig a hole on

1325
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:05,240
her property in a plant city so that she could start a paintball field for her new home,

1326
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,200
you know, for her boyfriend and her son.

1327
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,200
That would be dope though.

1328
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,200
Not gonna lie.

1329
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,200
That would be cool.

1330
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,200
But that's not what she wanted to do.

1331
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,200
Clearly.

1332
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,640
But they don't know this, you know.

1333
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,480
So as it is understood, things like this take more than obviously just a day of digging

1334
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:29,320
to do and James just says, okay, he comes to dig, starts digging, but it starts to rain.

1335
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,320
So he goes home.

1336
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:36,320
D-Day calls him back later that day and says, hey, I need you to really finish this because

1337
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,960
the inspector was coming to check the house the next day.

1338
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,280
So he does.

1339
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:47,480
And he says when he had arrived again, it seemed that D-Day was dirty and very out of

1340
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,800
breath.

1341
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,000
She claimed it from being running around all day, but he didn't really think much of it.

1342
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,720
He just kind of knew that D-Day was a weird ass woman and I'm sure he would have known

1343
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,280
this from being married with her for so many years.

1344
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,440
Could only expect that to be the reason why he got a divorce with her.

1345
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,240
But hey, that's not my business.

1346
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:09,600
So the next day, as far as witnesses knew, D-Day was having a new driveway poured and

1347
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:14,960
offers the workers extra to pour a concrete slab over the freshly resoyed hole.

1348
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:21,000
So I guess they didn't have time that day, so they returned two days later and they pour

1349
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,680
D-Day her 10 by 10 concrete slab.

1350
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:29,180
This witness statement was a solid for a prosecution statement.

1351
01:04:29,180 --> 01:04:34,080
So they had this in their pocket for her trial.

1352
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,360
During the trial, D-Day maintained her innocence.

1353
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,140
Not fucking surprising.

1354
01:04:40,140 --> 01:04:45,120
It was revealed from the prosecution that D-Day scammed Abraham and his family into believing

1355
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,200
that she would be willing to help Abraham.

1356
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:54,480
She took his remaining million dollars to buy herself a separate new home, a $70,000

1357
01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:01,320
corvette for her boo, for her little boo thing, a $30,000 truck for herself, a hummer just

1358
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,280
because, expensive jewelry, clothes.

1359
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:11,720
By the time D-Day had been caught, Abraham only had $10,000 left to his name.

1360
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,240
His family got no reimbursement from this, by the way.

1361
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,240
The only reimbursement, or sorry, I don't even say reimbursement, the only thing or the only

1362
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,880
money that any of his family got was that million dollar trust fund that no one else

1363
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:23,880
could touch.

1364
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,640
They didn't even get her the mom's house?

1365
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,400
Uh, no, nothing.

1366
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,400
They...

1367
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,360
I thought mom's house was paid for.

1368
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:32,360
Oh, mom's house was paid for?

1369
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,000
I'm sorry, I didn't see what you were saying at first.

1370
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Yeah.

1371
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,000
So, yeah, I guess you're right.

1372
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,000
Yeah, so they got mom's house.

1373
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,000
And the trust fund.

1374
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,000
And they got the trust fund.

1375
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,800
I mean, that's a lot of money, but that's nothing compared to what it was.

1376
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:48,400
But compared to what it was and compared to how much he still had, and she used, there's

1377
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,800
not even the fact that she, no matter how much money you won, it's the fact that someone

1378
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:57,400
else stole that money, stole that money from you.

1379
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:58,400
His family...

1380
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,400
So frustrating.

1381
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:04,600
Of course, was being as supportive and powerful as possible during this trial.

1382
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:09,800
They were trying to, of course, you know, they wanted to really give his name a satisfying

1383
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:10,800
rest.

1384
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,200
And I don't blame him for that.

1385
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,120
They were really powerful throughout this whole thing.

1386
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:18,280
It was really sad to watch trial videos and stuff.

1387
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:24,840
In 2012, Doris Moore, aka Didi, was found guilty for the first degree murder of Abraham

1388
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:29,320
Shakespeare serving life in prison with no possibility of parole.

1389
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,320
Good.

1390
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:35,800
And he still maintains her innocence to this day while held at the low correctional facility

1391
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,120
in Ocala, Florida.

1392
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,240
Do you know how old she is though?

1393
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,160
I want to say Didi at the time was, I want to say she's in her sixties, just from a

1394
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,160
rough estimate.

1395
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,160
Like right now?

1396
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,160
Yeah, right now.

1397
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,520
I know for a fact, her, his son is around our age.

1398
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,560
So I think he actually was born in 98.

1399
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,040
So he would be 25 this year.

1400
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,040
Oh, wow.

1401
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,960
So he's able to access his fund.

1402
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:58,960
I think after 18, right?

1403
01:06:58,960 --> 01:06:59,960
You're able to...

1404
01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:00,960
Yeah.

1405
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:01,960
I think, I don't know.

1406
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:02,960
I'm not a trust fund.

1407
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:03,960
I know, I wish.

1408
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,480
But he deserves everything to him.

1409
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,840
This whole family deserves everything that, everything good, everything good in the world.

1410
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:16,920
Because they had a family member that really loved the world.

1411
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:17,920
Ray of sunshine.

1412
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,560
Ray of sunshine.

1413
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,880
And someone decided, some evil in this world decided to rip that from them.

1414
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:29,680
God, that's like, this, okay, but that's like the reason why I'm frustrated is, I mean,

1415
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,400
obviously, like what's not to be frustrated about.

1416
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:38,160
But like, this man deserved it.

1417
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,160
He deserved the world.

1418
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:43,320
Like he truly deserved this money.

1419
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:44,320
Yeah.

1420
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:49,480
And not a lot of people, like, you know, you can really say that they like deserve it,

1421
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,480
you know?

1422
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:51,480
But he like deserves it.

1423
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,480
But that man deserved it.

1424
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,480
He worked hard.

1425
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:54,480
He worked hard.

1426
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,480
He cared about everybody.

1427
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:58,480
He didn't have a lot.

1428
01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,480
He didn't have a lot.

1429
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:00,480
He didn't even have education.

1430
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:01,480
He went to Walmart.

1431
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,840
He went to Walmart to buy his clothes while he was over here giving people away money.

1432
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:10,800
And he like, he, I mean, building a portable housing for people.

1433
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,200
Moral of the story.

1434
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,200
He deserved it.

1435
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,680
And somebody literally took it away from him.

1436
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,680
Took it away from him.

1437
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,680
Took it.

1438
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:24,360
Like that's the part that's so frustrating is he deserved this money and this evil woman

1439
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,520
like just ripped it away.

1440
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,600
Like including his life.

1441
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:34,520
Like not even like fuck the money literally took his life over this money.

1442
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,400
A man who would have given you that money when, when he literally would have probably

1443
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,080
given these people money.

1444
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:47,240
If that's all they wanted, I'm sure all they had to do was ask and this man would have

1445
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:48,240
been alive.

1446
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,240
And people don't fucking care.

1447
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,680
Even though he definitely should have not given them money.

1448
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,600
No, no, like he's nicer than he is.

1449
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:01,160
And it just sucks that one silly mistake because he didn't know any better to trust

1450
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,480
her with all of his funds.

1451
01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:09,280
Definitely took advantage of him when she knew she had.

1452
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:13,680
And now investigators still believe that Didi did not do this alone.

1453
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:18,200
They believe that she hired someone to physically kill Abraham.

1454
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,720
But whether or not she shot him or whether she has to win us to do it, she still had

1455
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,040
the intent to murder and cold blood.

1456
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,760
And he was very involved.

1457
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,760
And she, this was premeditated for sure.

1458
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:29,760
Oh yeah.

1459
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,080
Premeditated and she disposed of.

1460
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:37,160
And yeah, that's one thing that she has not, she has not come forward with.

1461
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,880
Even during the trial, she kept telling these lies.

1462
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,800
She didn't, she never came for it with the truth.

1463
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,800
You can tell she didn't.

1464
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,160
She is still hiding things.

1465
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,000
We don't know what actually happened between her and Abraham the night or the day that he

1466
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,000
was killed.

1467
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,600
Like we just know around that time he was killed.

1468
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,040
We just don't know when.

1469
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,480
And we also don't know.

1470
01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:58,680
And of course forensic investigator, things like that are going to say maybe it was this

1471
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,120
or that day, but we don't know for sure.

1472
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,880
So it's only has to say with that.

1473
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:07,120
And then also on top of that, of course, obviously the fact that this random woman comes into

1474
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,620
life and just takes everything away from them.

1475
01:10:09,620 --> 01:10:15,760
But then on top of that, it's like Didi knew that he had a whole family.

1476
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,000
He had children to support.

1477
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,520
He wanted to support the whole world.

1478
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:25,960
And again, I don't know how Didi came into the picture, but what some believe is that

1479
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,800
she found him on the news, watching the news one day and knew that this is a guy she could

1480
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,880
take advantage of and she did it the right way.

1481
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:37,200
I don't know if she knew from the beginning that Abraham didn't, that may have lacked

1482
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:44,240
education, but she did come out of nowhere and kind of just fixate herself on around

1483
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,240
this family.

1484
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:51,160
So it's just crazy how a forest could just ruin something so beautiful like that.

1485
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,160
And let this story be one of those told.

1486
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,520
I think this is one of my favorite stories being told and not only because it's Black

1487
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,320
Hair Story Month, I don't want anyone thinking that we're going to tell way more stories

1488
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:06,640
about people of color, people that have lost their lives for the most pointless reasons.

1489
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,880
And we're just a waste of sunshine.

1490
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,280
There's one that I really want to cover.

1491
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,440
I think we're going to cover it.

1492
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:16,320
We were going to cover, I want to say like two weeks ago, but I walked over it.

1493
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:21,000
That was a case about a female veteran who was not a veteran, I'm sorry, she was a female

1494
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,560
soldier who unfortunately had been murdered by someone else.

1495
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,720
And again, she is another story.

1496
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:34,360
She was a Hispanic woman who had been killed working on the US military.

1497
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,280
And it's just thoughts like that.

1498
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,360
You shouldn't kill anyone, obviously.

1499
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,080
But the fact that you can take someone's life that's trying to do good to the world,

1500
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,960
trying to make this world a better place.

1501
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,960
This man truly would have actually made impact on the world.

1502
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:48,960
He would have made an impact on the world.

1503
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:49,960
I mean, he already did.

1504
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,880
Like he did affordable housing.

1505
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,560
He got his so-called friend a business.

1506
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,960
Yeah, but that friend then came up and that's another thing too.

1507
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:05,160
His friend came up behind his back and just decided to take advantage of whatever DJ was

1508
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,480
trying to tell him for this money, whether or not.

1509
01:12:07,480 --> 01:12:10,480
And I think that's kind of shady too still to me because he was let off.

1510
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:16,360
But I still think it was shady personally because he knew that his friend was missing.

1511
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,920
I get from his words, he was saying that, you know, oh, I just want to give his mom

1512
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:20,920
a satisfaction.

1513
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,000
I just want her to have closure.

1514
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,320
You weren't fucking having his mom have closure.

1515
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,200
You just wanted this fucking money that DD claimed to give you.

1516
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,880
So let that be a thing.

1517
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,000
It's just this story.

1518
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,760
It's heartbreaking, but it needs to be heard.

1519
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,640
And I'm happy I told it.

1520
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,120
Ooh, West story.

1521
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,680
But rest in peace.

1522
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,360
Rest in peace, Abraham Shakespeare.

1523
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,520
Rest in peace and God bless your soul.

1524
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,520
Literally.

1525
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,440
But nevertheless, I'm just again, this is why we tell stories.

1526
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:58,280
We want to tell them to get people's stories out and get their names out.

1527
01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,280
Give their names out.

1528
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,280
Yeah.

1529
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,800
I didn't know a ton about this story.

1530
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,840
I knew a little bit about it from the news.

1531
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:10,480
But it recently kind of resurfaced because I think DD is still forcing her way out of

1532
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:11,480
that prison.

1533
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:12,720
Bitch, you're not getting out.

1534
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,280
But it kind of resurfaced.

1535
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:22,680
And I really want to cover this just, of course, just as a story, just a story to tell and

1536
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:23,680
to learn from.

1537
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:24,680
A true story.

1538
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:25,680
A true story.

1539
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:26,680
Let alone.

1540
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:27,840
A fortunate one.

1541
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:32,120
But that is the case of the murder of Abraham Shakespeare.

1542
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:37,640
Thank you all for listening so much to our episode today.

1543
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:42,960
We are obviously consistently working to get great episodes out for you weekly.

1544
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,000
More to come in the future.

1545
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:51,480
Make sure to go on to our Instagram at WTLGO podcast.

1546
01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:53,920
Make sure to go on to our TikTok.

1547
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:54,920
We did not.

1548
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:55,920
I'm sorry.

1549
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,920
We actually did not do any video today, but we will do some at some point soon.

1550
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:01,320
I plan to at some point.

1551
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,200
I got to get all dolled up.

1552
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,680
You got to get all dolled up.

1553
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:05,680
I wasn't ready today.

1554
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:06,680
No, it's okay.

1555
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,440
We're both wearing green sweatpants, which is so cute, but we're definitely wearing

1556
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:11,440
sweatpants in our youth.

1557
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:12,440
So it's fine.

1558
01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:13,440
Love.

1559
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:15,240
We ain't ready yet, but we'll get there.

1560
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:16,440
Still go on and follow us.

1561
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:18,040
We'll be posting soon.

1562
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,160
Make sure to send us your inquiries or anything that you have for us in terms of stories or

1563
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,720
listener stories.

1564
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:24,720
Many of you have them.

1565
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:25,720
I know you do.

1566
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:32,880
If you have them, make sure to send them to WTLGO, sorry, sorry about that one, WTLGO

1567
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,600
increase at gmail.com.

1568
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,440
And that kind of runs us up to the end of this episode, everybody.

1569
01:14:40,440 --> 01:14:45,520
Have a happy safe rest of your weekend.

1570
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:46,520
Stay safe.

1571
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:47,520
Stay safe out there.

1572
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,520
Carry on.

1573
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:49,520
A brand new legacy.

1574
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:50,520
Carry on my way, Tucson.

1575
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:51,520
Carry on.

1576
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,520
I don't know the words.

1577
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:53,520
Carry on.

1578
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,520
Abram's legacy.

1579
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,320
Abram's legacy of being a ray of sunshine.

1580
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:59,800
Yes, please, guys.

1581
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,760
Be decent people.

1582
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,040
Be people that help other people.

1583
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,360
You don't have to have money to help wise.

1584
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,360
And that's okay.

1585
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,360
And that's not scam people.

1586
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,360
Yeah.

1587
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,360
Oh, oh, shit.

1588
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,960
Scamming is the title of this episode of anything.

1589
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,360
Scamming is not something you should do.

1590
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,760
If you start a business, don't fuck it up.

1591
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:19,760
In that way, at least.

1592
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,760
How are you going to like literally scam your own business?

1593
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,760
This is really scammer-owned business.

1594
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,760
You fucked up your own business and got fired.

1595
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,880
How you get fired from your own business?

1596
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:36,280
Well, with that, we will see you when the lights.

1597
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,280
Goes out.

1598
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:39,280
Bye.

1599
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:55,280
Bye.