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Before we start this episode, a quick advisory.

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Today's episode does cover sexual assault and child abuse.

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If you don't want to listen, we do understand and we will catch you next week on the next

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episode.

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The horror began in June 1984.

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Los Angeles was under siege.

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Death waited in the dark at the hands of a man they called the Night Stalker.

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I'm Kendall.

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And I'm Bree.

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And this is When the Light...

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Goes out.

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With a twist.

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Hey everyone.

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I'm your host today.

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Oh shit, I bumped into the fucking mic.

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This is going to be really weird.

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We are doing a compiled recording tonight and this is Long For Us.

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We love you.

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So this is all for you guys.

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Happy freaking new year.

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Sorry we were gone for two weeks.

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I know.

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I'm so sorry about that.

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Here's us making it up for you.

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We're making it up.

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Midnight.

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It is.

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Yeah, we're tired but we are fighting through this and today is this very special day because

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not only is it Friday the 13th.

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Not only is it part two of the Night Stalker aka Richard Ramirez.

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But today Bree is telling the story.

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She's wrapping it up for us.

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Part two.

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Alright, so take it away Bree.

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It's story time.

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Alright.

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Okay.

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So to set the scene, we are at the home of two sisters in their 80s in the hills in Monrovia,

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California.

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Mabel Bell aged 83 was in a vulnerable state of sleeping when a malignant figure walks up

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to her bed post.

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The figure starts to then tape her legs and hands with electrical tape to the four bed

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post frames in the spread eagle position.

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Sexually solves her and then begins to brutally batter her in the head with a hammer.

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He had found lying around in the house.

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He then leaves the room and walks down the narrow hallway to her sister Florence's fling

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bedroom.

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Nearby, he finds a heavy instrument and begins to beat her with no hesitation.

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Fortunately, Florence had still been breathing though and clinging to her life when police

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and ambulance arrived from a 911 call that a worried neighbor had made.

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Oh my god.

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This is like two innocent old ladies living together.

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They're sisters.

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It's so cute too.

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And like pure.

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And someone just comes in and does that shit.

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It's also like pretty heavy.

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It is pretty heavy.

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So another crazy thing is that police found banana peels, mountain dew cans and other

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half feet eaten food laying around the living room and kitchen.

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It turns out that both Florence and Mabel both did not eat any of that and did not leave

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it around the house.

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So basically that means that Richard broke in, beat those poor women senselessly, killing

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the one and then decided to ravage through their food.

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Just stay in their house.

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Just stay there and just get some food.

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Like what the fuck?

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Whoa.

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That's not.

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I'm sorry to laugh guys.

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That's not.

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I'm not laughing because it's funny.

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I'm laughing because it's really uncomfortable.

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That's heavy.

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That's really sinister to stay in the house.

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To stay in the house after the people you just beat in are living and creaking to death.

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Clinging to life.

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Clinging to life.

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I'm sorry.

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What had also been found were two pentagrams that Richard left behind that were drawn

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with red lipstick on Mabel's leg and on the wall.

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So now Richard is just getting very cocky.

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He's just leaving things behind.

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He's just going for it.

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He's also like changing his, not that he really had an MO, but I feel like he's starting

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to get more.

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He's adding to it.

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He's getting really, yeah.

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He's getting really like, oh, they don't know what, they don't know what's mean.

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Like he's getting more cocky for sure.

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Definitely.

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Richard knows that the police are struggling.

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So now he's leaving behind a signature symbol.

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I guess kind of what, like feed them on.

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Feed them on.

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I think he's kind of like make poking at it.

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Trying to get that trademark.

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Like poking fun at it.

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Serial color thing, yeah.

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Charles Manson and the Manson cult, they often did something very similar where they would

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leave behind a symbol or a message that often said helter sculptor.

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We'll have to cover them sometime.

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That'll be really crazy.

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So maybe he found inspiration.

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I think he did.

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It seems like he like did a lot of like.

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Seems like he found a lot of inspiration.

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This fucker did a lot of fucking usage.

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Clearly.

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Ironically, Inspector Frank Salerno recalls this familiar pentagram from an old case.

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And so he goes and he finds this case file and he realizes that months prior in the LA

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area, there was a driver that was pulled over for a traffic violation leaving the area where

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officers had just received a call about a young girl that had been sexually assaulted

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or sorry, sexually harassed by a tall, skinny, Hispanic man with long, curly black hair and

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a terrifying grin.

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That sounds familiar.

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Sounds familiar to me.

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When the officer had pulled this guy over, the man had no identification and so he pulls

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him out of the car, checks him and says, stay here.

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I'll be right back.

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Rookie move.

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Rookie move.

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You have to be a new guy.

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Oh yeah.

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For sure.

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The cop goes to grab a citation slip and the minute the officer looks the other way, the

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man flees leaving a pentagram on the dirty windshield of the vehicle.

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How cocky, man.

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He really took that time to make the pentagram before he fled.

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Before he fled.

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He was that confident.

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He really said like, uh-uh.

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I'mma do this.

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I'mma do this.

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And then I'mma leave.

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What's chilling to me too is that like, we're just not hearing about these pentagrams in

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this case, but like that happened before like he started doing these murders.

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Like this is my thing I guess.

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Um, so that person had unfortunately never been caught and that car was later found to

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have been stolen and had been impounded.

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So keep that in mind because this will come back later in the story as most things do.

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So at this point, more and more is just starting to connect, but annoyingly all the evidence

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was being found in various counties and that means different police forces are handling

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each case, which means they're really not working together at this point.

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Which is really fucked.

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This actually happens a lot.

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So those dots just are not connecting the way that we think they would.

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Because the counties normally do not work together unless they know that like it's actually

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happening and they have a case and they build it because that is a lot of them.

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Which is so frustrating.

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Oh yeah, I feel like these cases would be solved so much faster.

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So much quicker.

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Like this could have been done had they just-

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Worked together.

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Yeah, they noticed.

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I guess it comes down to that too, but.

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So the murder spree just starts to become a competition at this point.

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Their police squads are being too stubborn to put their egos aside to catch this murderer

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and they'd rather work independently rather than as a collective unit, it seems.

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Now this case starts to literally get a little too close to home for LAPD County Sheriff Linda

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According to the docu-series Night Stalker to Humphreys Serial Killer, on July 7th,

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1985, Linda Arthur had been hot-tubbing with friends at her house when they had prepared

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for bed.

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Soon after, one of Linda's friends frantically goes up to Linda and says, hey, there's someone

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calling your name outside from the backyard.

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They keep yelling for Miss Arthur.

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So Linda being a little frightened had sewer backyard and looks over to the next house

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to see that it's her neighbor yelling for her.

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She tells her, quote, my house has been broken into, he rapes me and cuffed me to the bed.

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Please help, end quote.

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Oh my god, that's frightening.

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That is very scary.

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Oh, imagine, oh, your neighbor.

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I can imagine like, first of all, like the thought of, the thought of like your friends,

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like someone's out there calling for you.

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Like who the hell is calling for me?

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Yeah, I'd be like why?

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In the middle of the night, like it's late.

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So like, oh, oh, that gives me chills.

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Just thinking about, I'm like.

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Stalker strikes.

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And this is a, well, this is a LA.

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LAPD sheriff.

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LAPD sheriff.

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So the fact, oh, like that has to be terrifying just to think about already as an officer.

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Right in her backyard.

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Like literally he's, right, he's stroke strikes right in her backyard.

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Not the stroke.

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The neighbor described the intruder as a tall Hispanic male with black hair in his early

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twenties.

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Chilling enough, one of Linda's friends had said she swore she felt eyes on the girls

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while hot tubbing, but shrugged it off as being one of the neighbors or her eyes playing

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tricks on her from all the steam the hot tub had produced.

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Hell no.

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Follow your intuition people.

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No.

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Follow your intuition.

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Like literally when you feel eyes on you, eyes are on you.

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Oh, that gives me chills.

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Like, sitting in a hot tub and you're like.

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I feel something.

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And that's like a vulnerable state too.

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Yeah.

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Because you're in a swimsuit, you're like in a very.

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You're probably drinking too, I would think.

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In your own home, your own backyard.

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You feel safe, but you're not safe.

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Just to think it could have been like, I don't know, like I don't know if you got worried

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that too many of them are, I don't know.

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It's probably too many.

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Too many of them, but like to think that a secret color was staring at you in the hot

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tub.

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Yeah.

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And then goes for your neighbor instead.

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Oh, please.

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Oh my God.

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So all of that happened roughly between 2.30 a.m. to 3.00 a.m. and then that same day later

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in the morning, one mile away in Monterey Park, six year old beloved grandmother, Joyce

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Nelson, who had been relaxing peacefully in her home had been ambushed by an intruder.

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He works fast.

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He works very quickly.

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Fuck.

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And then it beats, bounded her arms and stomped on the side of her head so hard that he left

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a footprint on the side of her head.

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Holy fucking shit.

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Holy shit.

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You know how much force you would need to fucking.

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Holy shit.

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Yes.

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Like that's a lot of fucking force.

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You would need to stop on someone's head and leave a print.

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That man had his stomping.

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What were they?

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Some fucking tennis shoes?

272
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Yeah, they're tennis shoes.

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Oh my God.

274
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Oh, they're Vias.

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Stop and boot.

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Vias, they're Vias shoes.

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I don't even know what a Vias are.

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I don't think they're huge.

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I don't think they're made anymore, probably not.

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They're like, they're small companies.

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I feel like they're probably like European.

282
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Oh, okay.

283
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Yeah, something like that.

284
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Big in different countries.

285
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Yeah.

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Let us know if all of our European countries wear Vias.

287
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Yeah, if you guys know, let us know.

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Let us know if them bitches are like stopping boots because what the hell.

289
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Oh my God.

290
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Anyway, back to the very graphic.

291
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Yes.

292
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Okay.

293
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Joyce Nelson definitely put up a fight.

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The autopsy had shown that she had torn her nails off, clawing her intruder.

295
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Oh, wow.

296
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Yeah.

297
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So she was fighting.

298
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She was the strong, she was a strong one.

299
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Yeah.

300
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Oh my God.

301
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Oh, that's so sad.

302
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But of course, this break in did not satisfy Ramirez's sexual needs.

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So this monster walks down the street into the home of Sophie Dickman, where he had forced

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his way in and just rapes her.

305
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Oh.

306
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Goes into her house.

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Raps her.

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At this point, more and more news stations were catching up on the commonality between

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the murders.

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So they're kind of seeing those patterns.

311
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Yeah.

312
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They're noticing these things or adding it together.

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And the police are really trying to keep everything they know close to the chest.

314
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So the killer does not suspect which murders they've connected together and kind of what

315
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information they have.

316
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Which is smart.

317
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Yeah.

318
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And I guess that's really annoying because I guess if you think about it, you always

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see this on the news and like I feel like I always want more information.

320
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Yeah.

321
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Especially like with a lot of these cases.

322
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They're normally pretty smart though for keeping it close.

323
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But they're yeah.

324
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Because I was going to say they it takes one minute to break it investigation because obviously

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especially today, like we all have TVs.

326
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We all have the news at our fingertips.

327
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Yeah.

328
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We're keeping up with that, especially for something like this.

329
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Like we're keeping up.

330
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Yeah.

331
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We're going to keep up with it.

332
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Wow.

333
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Yeah.

334
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Okay.

335
00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,280
But obviously the press is still very hungry to get their stories out there and they do.

336
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You know, somehow some way the press be wild and they be wild and they get their info.

337
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They did.

338
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They really do.

339
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They really do.

340
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So at this point, the police station begins to get flooded with calls from alleged witnesses.

341
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At least 200 calls and tips are coming in in one day and the stations actually follow

342
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up on every single lead they get.

343
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Some actually are solid leads, but most are complete trolls and frauds such as wives claiming

344
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it's their husband and print calls.

345
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Okay.

346
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I can imagine.

347
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Don't waste police time.

348
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That was a lot of time.

349
00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,360
You know, don't waste their time.

350
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I don't know.

351
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Especially if they're following up on every single lead.

352
00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,440
I was going to say that's a lot of money they're putting into investigation.

353
00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,440
Oh, easy.

354
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Time, money, energy.

355
00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,440
Oh, everything.

356
00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,280
Oh, we saw that with the Halloween party murder.

357
00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,480
I believe where people, oh my God, there's so many phone calls.

358
00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:39,480
Why?

359
00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,920
And I'm pretty sure that's illegal, bitches.

360
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Don't fucking...

361
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It is.

362
00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:43,920
Also, why?

363
00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:44,920
Why?

364
00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,480
You're literally messing with people's lives.

365
00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,480
I can't even...

366
00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,480
Oh my God, anyway.

367
00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,840
Man, I will never, I will never get it.

368
00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,160
I'll never get it either.

369
00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,000
We are going to give the LAPD a little bit of credit because they were working overtime

370
00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:03,800
to catch this guy and they are losing lots of time before that killer strikes again.

371
00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,800
True.

372
00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:11,880
I would be terrified as a police officer doing this case to think like, oh shit, like, are

373
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their lives are in our hands.

374
00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,320
Everyone in Los Angeles right now could be dead in the next morning because of this

375
00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,320
ass hole.

376
00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,920
Yeah, because we're not doing it fast enough.

377
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:21,920
Yeah, okay.

378
00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,920
Man.

379
00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,440
All right, so it's July 9th, 1985.

380
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If you can recall, we did speak briefly about that stolen car with a pentagram that was

381
00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,200
found written on the windshield.

382
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After connecting the pentagram from the car to the pentagram at the grizzly murder scene

383
00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,400
of the two sisters, Mabel Bell and Florence Lang, investigators finally request to inspect

384
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the car at the pound where it had been kept for further evidence.

385
00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,520
Unfortunately, the inspectors got to the vehicle a little too late.

386
00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,720
I mean, obviously, it's what like months later.

387
00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:53,720
Oh, it's been months later, yeah.

388
00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,000
Obviously, it was too late to collect all those prints because they were all destroyed

389
00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,240
while the car had been sitting in the 100 degree weather with the sun beating down on

390
00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,240
it for months.

391
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,240
Yeah, I could have imagined.

392
00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,240
It had been months.

393
00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,240
Obviously, the sun, the wind, the rain.

394
00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,240
It's gonna mess it up.

395
00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,240
Everything.

396
00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,720
Yeah, all the fingerprints and...

397
00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,720
Oh, yeah.

398
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,120
Oh, wow, okay.

399
00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,280
Although what investigators did find was a business card on the passenger side of the

400
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car floor.

401
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:22,360
The business card was for a dental office in Chinatown with an address, phone number,

402
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,720
and the dentist's name, Dr. Peter Lang.

403
00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,720
Hmm.

404
00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:33,080
Finally, the LAPD and the investigators, they finally might have their best lead yet at

405
00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,080
this point.

406
00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,080
Oh, shit.

407
00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,080
Yeah.

408
00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,760
In the grass, they had good evidence, but nothing to back it up.

409
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,440
Nothing to fully connect it to a person yet, but we're finally getting somewhere at this

410
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,280
point.

411
00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:53,760
Without any delay, investigator detective Frank Salerno and Gil Carrillo find this dentist

412
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to interview and find out that the suspect had just been in their office several days

413
00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,640
prior.

414
00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,640
Oh, fuck.

415
00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,280
So had they found this business card sooner, they may have been able to catch him.

416
00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,360
In addition, the name that the patient used being Richard Mina and their address on file

417
00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:12,560
had both been fake.

418
00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,560
Ugh.

419
00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,760
This guy is clever in that way.

420
00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:17,760
Let's tell you that.

421
00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,240
He's not very smart in some way.

422
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,480
He's not very smart in a lot of ways, but he's smart about covering up his tracks in

423
00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,480
that name.

424
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,080
In that name, in that name sense.

425
00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:32,000
It's crazy how like this fucker is so dumb that he can't fucking remember to clean up

426
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:38,800
his shoe marks or whatever he has laid behind, but he's so good about covering up his name.

427
00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,880
What they did get was an x-ray of the suspect's teeth and detective Carrillo hands it over

428
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,320
to one of his friends that happens to be a dentist and his dentist friend tells them,

429
00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,480
quote, hey, I think we are close to cracking this case.

430
00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,160
We have found these x-rays we think belong to this unknown killer.

431
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,480
What can you tell me about it?

432
00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,480
End quote.

433
00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,480
Mm-hmm.

434
00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,000
So the dentist looks at these x-rays and says, quote, I can tell he's going to be back.

435
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,440
He's got an impacted tooth that is going to be killing him soon if it's not already.

436
00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,440
He'll be back.

437
00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,440
Yeah.

438
00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,440
Yeah.

439
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,440
End quote.

440
00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,120
The two investigators then figure out a plan to catch their target.

441
00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:19,040
In doing so, they place two undercover cops to come in and wait for Richard to arrive for

442
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,480
that next dental appointment.

443
00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,920
Because obviously that tooth killing his dumb ass.

444
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,800
Killing his dumb ass.

445
00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,800
Fucking bitch.

446
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,120
Once again, remember at the beginning we said he has some fucked up teeth.

447
00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:31,120
He has some fucked up teeth.

448
00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:32,120
He really does.

449
00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:38,320
Again, we'll see him pictures and then again you can look it up on our Instagram at WGGLTLGL.

450
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,800
I try to say it quickly at WTLGO podcast.

451
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,800
Check out those teeth.

452
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,800
Yeah.

453
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,080
They're not ugly.

454
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:54,600
The undercover cops come in every day for the next week hoping and praying that this

455
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,840
guy will come in so they can corner him.

456
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But of course, he never comes in.

457
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,320
Fuck.

458
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,080
So nothing comes to that.

459
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:10,960
The investigators are just like, all right, well maybe we're wasting our time having our

460
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,040
guys go in, wait for hours every day.

461
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,160
So let's just pull our guys out, replace them with a silent alarm that'll alert us as soon

462
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as the dentist sees them.

463
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:24,280
Okay, so dentist sees them arrive, hits that alarm, notifies the cops.

464
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,280
Easy.

465
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,280
Right?

466
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,280
Yeah.

467
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,280
You thought.

468
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,280
July 15th.

469
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,280
Okay.

470
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,280
Okay guys.

471
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,280
Yeah.

472
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,280
Same day.

473
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,360
They pull the undercover cops out, install the alarm system.

474
00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:40,600
Richard Ramirez comes in for his appointment.

475
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,440
Cops had just missed him.

476
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,840
Oh my God.

477
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:52,120
Only did they pull out their cops and miss physically being there when the dentist actually

478
00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:54,680
did hit the alarm multiple times.

479
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,760
Might I add the alarm completely malfunctioned so the cops never notified.

480
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:00,760
Oh my God.

481
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,480
I would be so fucking mad.

482
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,800
Well, first of all, I'd be mad as a cop for this fucking come chapter not working the

483
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,800
right way.

484
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,800
Fuck.

485
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,800
Yeah, literally.

486
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,800
Your guy is right there.

487
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,320
It's the same day that you pulled out your cops.

488
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,120
The same day.

489
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,040
The same fucking day.

490
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,280
Oh God, that really bites.

491
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,800
So once again, back to square one.

492
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,920
Oh God.

493
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:35,280
So we're at five days later, July 20th, 1985, murders still continuing.

494
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,400
We're at Lendale, California now onto our next victim.

495
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:46,280
Judith Needing Arnold had pulled up to her elderly parents house with her daughter after

496
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,760
trying to reach them via phone all day.

497
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,960
Her parents were Max and Linda Needing.

498
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,760
Nighting, Needing.

499
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,760
Singus Needing.

500
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,760
Needing.

501
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,760
Okay.

502
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,960
When she walked up to the home, she immediately knew something was off because her parents'

503
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gate to their backyard pool had been open and she knew they were very, very particular

504
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,280
about keeping that gate closed.

505
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,280
Fair.

506
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:13,080
The side door to the home was also wide open.

507
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,360
Once she entered the home, Judith let out a blood-curdling scream because she had just

508
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,280
found her parents sprawled out on their bed.

509
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,360
The entire room had been ransacked and covered in blood.

510
00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:30,000
Apparently both of her parents had been killed from gunshot wounds and knife wounds to their

511
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upper torsos.

512
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,240
Specifically Max, her father, had nearly been decapitated.

513
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,760
Just imagine having to explain why your child can't go in their grandparents' house.

514
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,280
That's so sad.

515
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:49,400
Just thinking about having your daughter with you and she hears her scream.

516
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,680
I can only think about that because growing up, my mom was always really always worried

517
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:59,280
about ever crying or screaming or doing anything around us and my brother because she was always

518
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,480
like, I don't want that.

519
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,040
I don't want my kids to see me in that state.

520
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:10,000
I can only imagine seeing your mom terrified in that sentence and just walking into that.

521
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000
Oh my god.

522
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,240
And your parents, like, oh my god.

523
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:22,720
This guy is just going off on the rocks.

524
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,280
A second murder occurs that same day on July 20th.

525
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:33,280
You can tell by the evidence that it was the same person just miles away in Sun Valley.

526
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,280
The same person committing the crime just miles away in Sun Valley.

527
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:42,120
So obviously how did investigators know it was the same person because there was a perfect

528
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:45,280
imprint of a via shoe at the scene of the crime.

529
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,280
Oh my god.

530
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,280
Yeah, it's always a shoe.

531
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,280
I told you guys.

532
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,280
I told you.

533
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,280
I told you.

534
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,280
I told you I'm part one.

535
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,280
He always had a spot on the litter box.

536
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,280
Wow.

537
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,280
Watch a via come for us now.

538
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,280
Please don't.

539
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,280
We didn't make the sense.

540
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,280
Listen, this is just information we found on the internet.

541
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,280
This is what we found.

542
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,280
We're not sponsored by a via.

543
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,280
Live, laugh, love.

544
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,280
We love you.

545
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,280
Our cited sources are on this.

546
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,280
You got stop and mood for days.

547
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,280
Oh my god.

548
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Oh my god.

549
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,280
It's awful.

550
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,280
Okay.

551
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,280
No, literally.

552
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,280
Oh my god.

553
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:27,280
So the victim of this senseless crime was 32 year old.

554
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,280
Shayna wrong.

555
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,280
Covenant.

556
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,280
Covenant.

557
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,280
Where is that?

558
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,280
Shayna wrong.

559
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,280
Covenant.

560
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,280
Covenant.

561
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,280
You're right.

562
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,280
We're going to go with that.

563
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,280
I'm definitely wrong.

564
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,280
Yeah, you're right.

565
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,280
Shayna wrong.

566
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,280
Covenant.

567
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,280
That sounds better.

568
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,280
Yeah.

569
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,280
They were immediately shot in the temple at point blank range.

570
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,280
Wow.

571
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,280
Wow.

572
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,280
Ramirez had shot and killed that victim.

573
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:58,640
He walks down the hall to his terrified wife and six year old son and violently sexually

574
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,280
assaults them both.

575
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,280
Fortunately, they did both live.

576
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,280
But unfortunately, they will live with that for the rest of their lives.

577
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,280
I'm like the kid like.

578
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,280
Why the kid?

579
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,280
Why?

580
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,280
Why the fuck leave the fucking kid out of it.

581
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,280
Don't like don't leave everybody out of it.

582
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,280
Yeah, don't touch anybody but like I like a child.

583
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,280
Like the kid six years old.

584
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,280
Six year old little boy.

585
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,280
And like in the in the in the again, I don't know really know how to frame this the right

586
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,280
way but like he's leaving these people alive and I feel like that's just as bad as killing

587
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,280
them like you're killing their souls when you do shit like this.

588
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,280
I mean they're just going to live like.

589
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,280
They have to live with this in fear.

590
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,280
Trauma I can only imagine what trauma that would leave you with.

591
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,280
God's.

592
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,280
Some strong.

593
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,280
Sorry, I'm going to do that.

594
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,280
Oh my God.

595
00:24:52,280 --> 00:25:01,280
All right, so we're into the new month of August 6 1985 specifically the night in Northridge,

596
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,280
California.

597
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,280
Ramirez casually stumbles upon the home of Chris and Virginia Peterson.

598
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:13,280
He walks in goes into the bedroom takes out his pistol and shoots Virginia on the left

599
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,280
side of her nostril.

600
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,280
Then as Chris Peterson steps up in the bed after he hears that you shot in the right

601
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,280
side of his head.

602
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Oh my God.

603
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
So yeah, yeah, yeah.

604
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,280
Oh my God.

605
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,280
So incompetent like point blank range just.

606
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,280
Yeah, and he probably thinks we're good.

607
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,280
Okay.

608
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Amazingly enough Chris still managed to chase the intruder out of his house.

609
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:45,280
I mean he had been shot in the head and Ramirez was still holding the gun and Chris just

610
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,280
chases him out of the house.

611
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,280
Imagine giving shot in the face and still being.

612
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,280
Wait, this isn't funny.

613
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,280
I'm so sorry.

614
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,280
This isn't funny.

615
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,280
But Ramirez is getting chased out and calls him a bitch.

616
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,280
Yeah, she does.

617
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,280
Why is Chris the bitch Ramirez is the bitch.

618
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,280
Chris is not the bitch.

619
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,280
This man.

620
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:15,280
I can only imagine fucking Richard Ramirez's scrawny stupid ass like running being like

621
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,280
bitch.

622
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Literally.

623
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Like fuck you.

624
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,280
Fuck you.

625
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,280
Wait.

626
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Okay.

627
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,280
Wait.

628
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,280
Okay.

629
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,280
Let's rewind for a minute.

630
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,280
Hold on.

631
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,280
So I was Chris I'd be like, ah fuck you bitch.

632
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,080
You shoot a guy in the face.

633
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:36,480
This man still gets up and chases you while his head is more specifically right side of

634
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,480
his head.

635
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,280
The right side of his head.

636
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:46,080
He gets shot and he still chases you and you call him a bitch.

637
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,080
No, you will pussy bitch.

638
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,080
You okay.

639
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,080
Like what?

640
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,080
Oh my god.

641
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,080
No, I can't.

642
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,080
I can't.

643
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,080
No, Ramirez.

644
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,080
No.

645
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,080
Oh my god.

646
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,080
Okay.

647
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,920
This guy gets shot in the how.

648
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,080
How do you have the energy to even get up after getting shot in the face?

649
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,080
That adrenaline is something.

650
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Oh, adrenaline is no joke.

651
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,080
Oh my god.

652
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,080
Wow.

653
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,080
Okay.

654
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,160
So after this incident, police get the closest accurate composite sketch that they have

655
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,080
gotten this far.

656
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Good.

657
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,200
The Northridge police immediately released that to the public.

658
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,200
So his face, what the fuck just happened?

659
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,200
Oh, why did it just go all the way up to the top?

660
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:38,480
Anyway, police immediately released it to the public and his face is now out there.

661
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,480
Good.

662
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,480
That's a fucking shaggy.

663
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,200
For everybody to see.

664
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,520
And this is when all of the stores all over Southern California really start getting an

665
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,240
increase in gun sales, locks, weapons, everything.

666
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,240
Everyone is.

667
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,240
Everyone is terrified.

668
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,240
I would be too.

669
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,240
Okay.

670
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Frame it for a minute.

671
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,240
Okay guys, POV.

672
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,240
You're in Southern California in the 80s.

673
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,240
You're like living your best life.

674
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,240
And then.

675
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,240
You're like drinking like Mai Tai's by the pool.

676
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Mai Tai is by the pool.

677
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,240
You're like Sunday California.

678
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,240
You're like going up beach on the beach.

679
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,240
Yeah.

680
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,240
You're listening to the Eagles.

681
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,240
You're listening to Hotel California.

682
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,240
You're like welcome to Hotel California.

683
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,240
Any time.

684
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:26,240
And then.

685
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:34,760
You hear on the news that people all over California, not even the one place are just

686
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,240
turning up dead over California.

687
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,480
All ages, all ages, all genders, kids included.

688
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,800
And it's it's like the same person.

689
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,440
He's getting crafty enough to break in where people aren't hearing him and.

690
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Leaving some alive to.

691
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,080
Yeah.

692
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,080
Leaving some alive.

693
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,080
Like how can you sleep?

694
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,920
At this point, like at the first, his first murder was like not knowingly.

695
00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,920
Yeah.

696
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:00,920
Or one of his first.

697
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,920
Yeah.

698
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,920
Yeah.

699
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,920
Knowingly.

700
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,160
But now he's knowingly leaving people alive or at least allegedly what we know.

701
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,160
Yeah.

702
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,320
He's knowingly leaving people live at this point.

703
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,600
In the worst way.

704
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,600
In the worst way.

705
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,160
In the worst way.

706
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,160
Barely alive.

707
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,160
Oh my God.

708
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,600
And obviously he's like literally just on a rampage to harm and kill anyone.

709
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,600
Yeah.

710
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,600
Who he can break into.

711
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,600
Yeah.

712
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,160
Whoever left their door open, whoever left that window.

713
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,480
He is on it.

714
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,160
I just want to go back in time and be like everyone lock your doors like please.

715
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,160
Yeah.

716
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,160
Literally time machine back.

717
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,160
I just feel like please.

718
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,160
Everyone lock your doors.

719
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,160
Everyone lock your doors.

720
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,160
Please.

721
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,160
God.

722
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,160
He is on that shit like butter and toast.

723
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,160
Like.

724
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,160
God.

725
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,600
I accidentally forgot to lock their window that night like he's on it.

726
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,600
Like he knows.

727
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,600
He's on it.

728
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,600
His spidey senses tingling.

729
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,600
Tingling.

730
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,600
Fucking dick.

731
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,600
Yeah.

732
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,100
No kidding.

733
00:29:53,100 --> 00:30:01,440
So like at this point the media outlets in California they start to give him a name.

734
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,320
So now he's finally got his serial killer nickname.

735
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,560
First they call this killer the walk-in killer.

736
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,280
I hate that walk-in freezer, walk-in closet, the walk-in wet killer.

737
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,280
Don't like that.

738
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,280
Walk-in freezer.

739
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Walk-in closet.

740
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,360
Then the Valley intruder.

741
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,360
We're getting better.

742
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,360
I still have a little bit of it.

743
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,240
The Valley intruder.

744
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,000
It's a lot like the Hillside Stringler.

745
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
That gives a lot.

746
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
Yeah.

747
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Yeah.

748
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Okay.

749
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,640
And then finally the Herald examiner deems the murderer that seems to fancy murderingly

750
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,160
at night the night stalker.

751
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,160
Okay.

752
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,160
I think is more fitting.

753
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,480
It's definitely fitting.

754
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,480
The walk-in killer terrible.

755
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,080
The Valley intruder like I can see that that makes sense.

756
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,800
California the Valley and he is an intruder.

757
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,200
He is an intruder.

758
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:49,960
I almost okay like I I'm for giving a murderer the alias because people know who he is right.

759
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,960
Like like they put this.

760
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,640
Oh yeah but I get some that fucking cop.

761
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,920
But I get some that cop and I was just gonna say that like I was just gonna say that you

762
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,480
took the words right out my mouth.

763
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,480
I'll say snitch.

764
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,480
Yeah.

765
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:05,600
Like it's just like I don't like the fact that people that choose to murder get these

766
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,640
aliases and then they get confident and like oh fuck like I'm like I'm some kind of like

767
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,640
villain.

768
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,640
I hate to miss that.

769
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,640
Yeah.

770
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,680
Like they think there's some kind of like Disney villain like no bitch like you're killing

771
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,640
actual people that are living like fuck you.

772
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,120
Oh fuck off and burn in hell.

773
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,520
All right.

774
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,040
So moving on to the next victim.

775
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,040
Oh look.

776
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:39,720
I'm 35 year old Ellis Abouoth who had been shot in the temple with a 32 caliber handgun.

777
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,560
If you guys notice the type of son of mess up he did change his weapon.

778
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,560
Yeah.

779
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,400
It seems like 22 to a 32.

780
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:52,880
His surviving wife who like many other innocent victims had been devastatingly sexually assaulted

781
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,520
to husband shot wife sexually assaulted.

782
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,400
Seems like an ongoing thing with him if he can find it.

783
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,680
But then the recent murders are pretty standard.

784
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,680
Yeah.

785
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,680
Wow.

786
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:11,560
When the wife did try escaping his grass Ramirez did show at her quote don't look at me don't

787
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,240
look at me and quote so exclaiming.

788
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,240
Yeah.

789
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,240
Don't look at me.

790
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,240
Okay.

791
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Elias responded quote I swear to God I won't and quote and he says quote don't swear to

792
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,840
God swear to Satan and quote.

793
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,840
Oh fuck off.

794
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,680
I feel like swear to Satan don't kill me.

795
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,680
Yeah.

796
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,680
Okay.

797
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,680
Wait.

798
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,680
But wait.

799
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,960
I guess if you think about it that's not even make sense because like I guess you because

800
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,880
I was always told and I'm just like to coming from like my little Christian background.

801
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,360
I was always told don't swear to God.

802
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,360
So like wait.

803
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,960
Wouldn't you want to swear to God if you're a Satanist.

804
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,960
I don't know.

805
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,960
Period.

806
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,960
You kind of write.

807
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,960
Why are you like okay you catching on to my.

808
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,960
I get you.

809
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,960
I get you.

810
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,680
Make it make sense Richard make it make sense like okay.

811
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,200
She's like I swear to God I swear to God I swear to God and he's like don't swear to

812
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,720
God swear to Satan.

813
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,320
He thought he was like he thought he was being.

814
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,320
He thought he was big game.

815
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,320
He's a.

816
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,360
You know what fuck this bitch up fuck this bitch up because.

817
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,360
No.

818
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,360
Okay.

819
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:20,520
So at this point Ramirez decides to move his madness to San Francisco on Eucalyptus

820
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Avenue to yet again break into the home of Mr. and Mrs. Pan.

821
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,040
But Eucalyptus like that's been so peaceful.

822
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,040
I'm like.

823
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,040
I love a little Eucalyptus.

824
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,040
Eucalyptus.

825
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,040
That sounds.

826
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,040
I live on Eucalyptus.

827
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,040
That sounds like nothing bad would happen but.

828
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,040
Yeah.

829
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,040
We're in for it.

830
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,400
He must have fucking marked this on a pen and been like this is where I need to go fuck

831
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,400
shut up.

832
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Listen to this.

833
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:49,960
He shoots Mr. Pan and then once again proceeds to sexually assault his wife and this time

834
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,720
shoots a bullet into her head.

835
00:33:52,720 --> 00:34:00,520
Just like the unfortunate murder and attempted murder of the two sisters from July 15th or

836
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,520
whenever.

837
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,520
Yeah.

838
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,520
Yeah.

839
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,920
The older like the two sisters older sisters.

840
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:15,280
He had the nerve to eat the food out of their refrigerator and but this time this time he

841
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:21,720
regurgitates it back up and then masturbates onto their living room carpet.

842
00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:24,120
Yeah that's that's bad.

843
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,120
That's.

844
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:30,680
What is the point of regurgitating it back?

845
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,560
Oh I'm out of lots of words.

846
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,880
Yeah okay moving on.

847
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:46,000
The entire time Miss Pan who had been shot in the head had been holding on to dear life.

848
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Oh thank God.

849
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,480
So okay.

850
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:54,240
Luckily is transported to the hospital barely breathing and once again Ramirez leaves a

851
00:34:54,240 --> 00:35:00,040
pentagram carved onto the door with words beside it saying Jack the Ripper.

852
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Fuck off.

853
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
See that's that thing again.

854
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000
The word like oh I can be like this killer.

855
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,360
I feel like he like almost but then again I feel like he almost forgets what his signature

856
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,840
is because it's like sometimes he'll do this sometimes he'll do this.

857
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,840
Yeah.

858
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,840
Sometimes he'll do this.

859
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,320
That's the thing he's so everywhere.

860
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,480
Killing the wife just sexually assaulting the wife letting her live.

861
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,560
Do drawing the pentagram like it just seems like.

862
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,560
It's a game.

863
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,560
It's a game for him.

864
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,920
Kind of like going back and forth.

865
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,920
Yeah.

866
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,960
Every other murder it's like something different but the same.

867
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,320
Just exactly what it sounds like.

868
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,320
Oh wow.

869
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,320
Okay.

870
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,320
This man.

871
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,320
All right.

872
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,320
Moving up.

873
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,320
That was gnarly guys.

874
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,320
Sorry about that.

875
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,320
Keep saying that.

876
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Moving on to the next one.

877
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:56,880
It was a sunny California afternoon and the paper boy is delivering his daily newspaper

878
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:04,920
when he spots a 1976 orange Toyota station wagon slowly creeping throughout his neighbor

879
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,440
hood or sorry the neighborhood he was in.

880
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,040
At first he's thinking nothing of it.

881
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,680
Maybe the Toyota is looking for an address.

882
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Maybe he's looking for a person.

883
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,120
Yeah.

884
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,120
Unascendable.

885
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:25,240
But then as the man passes by he looks directly at the paper boy with piercing eyes behind

886
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:27,920
his dark black curly hair.

887
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,840
Oh that's frightening.

888
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,840
Immediately.

889
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,680
All I can think of is like the picture that I can't get out of my head of Richard Ramirez

890
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:42,520
and again when you look at him you see like pure nothing.

891
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,520
Yeah.

892
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,520
Like there's nothing there.

893
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,520
There's nothing there.

894
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,520
There's no soul.

895
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,240
It's pure evil.

896
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:55,440
So immediately luckily this kid he's reminded of those composite sketches that he had seen

897
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,480
in the news and he warns police immediately.

898
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,480
Yeah.

899
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,480
Like whatever.

900
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,120
Let's him know.

901
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:12,440
He gives them the license plate the make and model of the car and it is given to the press

902
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:18,320
and almost instantly a man calls the police recognizing it to look a lot like the car.

903
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,360
His friend got stolen weeks prior in Chinatown.

904
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,160
I wonder if he did that after the best take point.

905
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,200
I was going to say yeah he seems to be going to Chinatown a lot.

906
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Yeah.

907
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Interesting.

908
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Yeah.

909
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,720
That's really interesting actually.

910
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:42,720
The car had later been found abandoned in a lot where police finally finally got a fingerprint.

911
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:43,720
Oh my God.

912
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:46,320
Well it took about a fucking year.

913
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,520
So at this point we have footprints at some of the scenes, a composite sketch of what

914
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:58,000
he looks like, a teeth x-ray from the dentist and now the fingerprint from the stolen car.

915
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:04,520
So we got a good amount of evidence to pack this in with a pretty bow.

916
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,520
Hopefully.

917
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,520
Hopefully.

918
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,520
True.

919
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,840
So like Kendall just said investigators have everything they need to tie this all into

920
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:19,680
the one killer and obviously the killer is a murderer.

921
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,800
He's tied to all these break-ins.

922
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,000
It's not different people.

923
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,000
It's one guy.

924
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000
No it's one guy.

925
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,560
The police need to catch this one guy.

926
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:34,240
Crazy enough, a little spoiler, the police were actually not the ones to catch him.

927
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:35,240
You know what?

928
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:36,600
I can be surprised.

929
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,600
Stay with us though.

930
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Stay with us though.

931
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Because I think we both know what happens at this end and it's fucking crazy.

932
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,360
I don't think you guys are going to guess.

933
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,360
I don't think you guys know.

934
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,360
Unless you know.

935
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,360
Don't look it up.

936
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,360
Fuck.

937
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,360
Don't look it up.

938
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Put the phone down.

939
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,360
Put it down.

940
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,520
Put the Google down.

941
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,280
What happens at the end of this is fucking insane.

942
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Literally hold onto your hats.

943
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,800
Hold onto your underwear.

944
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,800
Hold onto your butts.

945
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,800
Hold onto your avias.

946
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,800
Avias?

947
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,800
Ah!

948
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,800
Seriously though.

949
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,800
Oh shit.

950
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,800
Okay.

951
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,800
Grab your blankie.

952
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,800
Grab your cat.

953
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,800
I'm into it.

954
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,800
I'm like terrified right now.

955
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,000
I'm like afraid to go home.

956
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000
Like damn.

957
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160
Like this world is crazy but keep going.

958
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,160
I'm sorry.

959
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,160
Okay.

960
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,160
No apologies.

961
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,800
One day out of the blue random LAPD receives a call from a woman that says her father frequently

962
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,800
hangs out around the Grey House.

963
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,800
Oh that's okay.

964
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,800
Rich!

965
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,800
It's late.

966
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:41,800
One day out of the blue random LAPD receives a call from a woman that says her father frequently

967
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,840
hangs out around the Grey Hound station in downtown.

968
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,160
In LA there is a little strip of street that is called Skid Row.

969
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,600
I don't know if you guys remember that if you listened to our other episodes.

970
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,600
Hotel Cecil.

971
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Cough cough.

972
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:05,080
At this point in LA on Skid Row officers later found out that he had been staying at

973
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,080
the hotel Cecil.

974
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,080
Ding ding ding.

975
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:12,480
Obviously if you've been listening and following to our podcast you know why we did this.

976
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,480
Yeah.

977
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,480
Ties right into that hotel.

978
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,480
Oh my gosh.

979
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,480
See how that comes full circle.

980
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,480
Wow.

981
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,480
That's crazy.

982
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,480
The Cecil Hotel guys.

983
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,400
Gotta give it to them.

984
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,400
Fucking hotel man.

985
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,320
It's because it's in fucking Skid Row.

986
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,320
It makes sense.

987
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,320
It does.

988
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,200
It really does.

989
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:36,520
So the woman who called LAPD she says my father has befriended a strange guy.

990
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:42,560
He goes by the name Rick and my father believes that he matches those composite sketches that

991
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,840
are in the news.

992
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:50,640
When they interviewed that lady's father the father casually mentions yeah I know Rick.

993
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,920
He's your guy.

994
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,200
He told me he committed a murder in Monterey Park and used a 22 semi-automatic pistol to

995
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,200
do it.

996
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,200
I wonder when.

997
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,360
Like why are they confessing him out.

998
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,640
When did he tell him this.

999
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,800
Like I hope it was like I hope when he learned that information and told his daughter like

1000
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,440
I hope they called immediately.

1001
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,440
How casual.

1002
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,920
Like oh yeah that's a guy.

1003
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,920
Yeah that's your guy.

1004
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,920
Yeah that's him.

1005
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,360
I think Casually told me one day that he just killed this couple.

1006
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,120
Why didn't you tell me that.

1007
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,120
Like literally.

1008
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,080
What made you hold this for me.

1009
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,080
Is that not illegal.

1010
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,080
With holding information.

1011
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,080
Yeah.

1012
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,840
I think it might be but also at the same time like I feel like.

1013
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,720
But I get yeah it's a super slope.

1014
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,520
I feel like it's probably certain like elements or something.

1015
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,520
Yeah that makes sense.

1016
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,520
I don't know.

1017
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,800
I feel like there's a lot of like loopholes.

1018
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,800
Loopholes that makes sense.

1019
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,760
Yeah I don't really know.

1020
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,520
So I mean obviously the investigators do exactly what me and Kendall just did.

1021
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,320
They glance at one another and then oh shit look.

1022
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,320
Oh yeah.

1023
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,760
Because this information was kept from the press.

1024
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,920
Yeah they wouldn't have known that.

1025
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,040
So exactly like you just said no one would have known that.

1026
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:09,360
Unless they were the killer or had come in contact with the killer.

1027
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,880
And it just so happens that around the same time up in San Fran a police informant recovers

1028
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:21,280
a diamond bracelet that was given to his wife's mother in San Pablo that he believes was stolen

1029
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,800
also in California.

1030
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,760
Upon some investigation the San Francisco inspector Frank Falzone goes and interviews

1031
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,080
the wife's mother and she says yeah my boyfriend gave them a bracelet to me.

1032
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,720
His name is Armando Rodriguez.

1033
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:42,680
She says Armando had given her the bracelet from her friend Rick and if they're looking

1034
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:48,960
for him Rick wears a black ACDC hat and a black members only jacket and has bad teeth.

1035
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,280
Who do we know that has all of those qualities?

1036
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,280
He.

1037
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,400
If I was that girl I'd be so freaked out.

1038
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:04,280
After tracking down the Armando Rodriguez guy in El Sabrante California inspector

1039
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:10,320
Falzone finds out Armando knows who this Rick guy is but will not tell him who he is.

1040
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,440
So Falzone kind of smacks the sky a little.

1041
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Give him a little.

1042
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,440
Give him a little.

1043
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,440
Good cop back cop.

1044
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,440
A little smash around.

1045
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,440
I'm gonna do wrap around.

1046
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,440
He got you.

1047
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,440
Wait tell them what do they know about that TikTok.

1048
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Yeah I don't really know like the literal preface of it but they just always take a drink

1049
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,480
and they're like I'm gonna do a little wrap around.

1050
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,480
Wrap around.

1051
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,480
I know exactly what you're talking about.

1052
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,440
That's like literally us right now with like coffee.

1053
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,440
Like we're like we're gonna do a little wrap around.

1054
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,320
A little wrap around so we can get this episode out to you guys.

1055
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,960
Seriously though.

1056
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,200
So he's doing his routine.

1057
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,320
He's smacking them around a little figuratively not literally or maybe literally we don't really

1058
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,320
know.

1059
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,040
I wouldn't be surprised if he was.

1060
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,320
Honestly if I was this close to cracking the case I'd be fucking mad.

1061
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,320
I'd be using this man.

1062
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,280
Oh god yeah I would too.

1063
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:14,720
He also at this point is threatening his freedom too and after 20 minutes he says okay okay

1064
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,080
Richard Ramirez.

1065
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,080
His name is Richard Ramirez.

1066
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,000
Fucking Armando what the hell.

1067
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,640
Why are you even friends with him?

1068
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Like why are you.

1069
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Why would you be friends with him first of all if you're gonna wrap him around but also

1070
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,160
like good that you got him.

1071
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,080
No like why are you friends with him in the first place if he's literally a serial killer

1072
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,960
and also why are you protecting him.

1073
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,400
I wonder if Armando was like one of those.

1074
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,400
He not.

1075
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:42,880
I don't know a lot about like California personally but I know there's some sketchy areas and

1076
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:49,200
I know that I mean we have listeners if you guys don't let us know but I don't know maybe

1077
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,480
Armando was probably like some he's probably sketchy already.

1078
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,480
He had to be.

1079
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,960
He had to have been sketchy because you're hanging out with also the girl's father though

1080
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,480
like if you're hanging around this guy and you're because she said that.

1081
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:10,240
Like he hung out around like he hung around so scared roll a lot so her father had to

1082
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,400
be sketchy too.

1083
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,920
I guess I guess as a cop you can't really you know obviously do much about somebody

1084
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,200
who's sketchy but you can't get something out of them if you try.

1085
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,520
That's scariest a cop I could imagine being a cop.

1086
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,520
No I couldn't either.

1087
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,520
Oh my god.

1088
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,480
That's crazy.

1089
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,640
So Richard Ramirez was obviously already in the system with that criminal record he already

1090
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:37,480
had of petty crimes so it did not take long for the investigators to take that fingerprint

1091
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,520
from the stolen Toyota and find the match for it.

1092
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Obviously leading back to Richard Ramirez.

1093
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,000
So they have a name and they have a mugshot to match.

1094
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,000
Halla guia.

1095
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Halla fucking Lula.

1096
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Lula.

1097
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Lula.

1098
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,000
It's late y'all.

1099
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000
God.

1100
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
118 to be specific.

1101
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,000
They're fighting again.

1102
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,000
The kiddies are fighting.

1103
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,000
All right.

1104
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,000
So we are in August.

1105
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:15,000
It is the morning of August 31st 1985.

1106
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:20,440
Richard Ramirez had been returning to LA from visiting his brother in Arizona and returned

1107
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,880
via Greyhound to downtown Los Angeles.

1108
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,920
I really wonder if he did anything in Arizona that never got found out.

1109
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,920
You know what?

1110
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Can we ask that question?

1111
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,840
I'm going to bring it up at the end for a brief moment but okay I'll let you finish.

1112
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,840
Okay.

1113
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:38,840
We're almost there.

1114
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,840
We're almost there.

1115
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Okay.

1116
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,120
The police were finally ready this time.

1117
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:51,360
Every camera around the Greyhound facility is being operated by the police.

1118
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,240
They've placed undercover cops in the station to pose as the homeless and they wait for

1119
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:59,240
him to come through that entrance of the building.

1120
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:04,960
But as soon as he walks through the station he recognizes the undercover cops because

1121
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,400
although the cops had been dressed in dingy clothing trying to play that part of the

1122
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:16,960
homeless they were still too clean and shaven and manicured to pass off as actually being

1123
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,960
homeless.

1124
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:25,680
So Ramirez with that stretchy feeling he turns back around and heads out of a back exit.

1125
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,680
Again it's weird because he's so it's like I'm not going to call him smart because he's

1126
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,680
not fucking smart.

1127
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,680
I'm not going to.

1128
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,680
He has intuition though.

1129
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:39,960
He has a good intuition and I mean even to like look around and like be like oh like

1130
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,280
I have some nice cut hair he is not homeless.

1131
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,280
That's really.

1132
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,280
That must be a cop.

1133
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,280
But it's also probably paranoia.

1134
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,280
Yeah I could see that.

1135
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,800
And he just so happened to be right.

1136
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,640
Yeah and I guess if you're thinking about it he doesn't know that the police are on

1137
00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:01,200
to him they're there and he's like oh I think they're undercover maybe not for me but I know

1138
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,200
they're here.

1139
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Yeah.

1140
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,200
He knows what he did.

1141
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,200
Yeah he does.

1142
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,700
Fucking bitch.

1143
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:09,640
So after he slips up.

1144
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,840
So after he slips out that back exit he does walk down the street and he runs into a liquor

1145
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,280
store.

1146
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:23,160
As he does that he looks down and he sees his face on the front page of a newspaper.

1147
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,840
Now keep in mind Ramirez had no idea that the police had actually figured out who he

1148
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,040
was while he had been away.

1149
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:37,720
So he begins to panic as the newspaper reads a title that states stalker suspect named.

1150
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:41,920
So at this point what does he do?

1151
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,200
What else can he do?

1152
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:52,320
He quickly darts out of the store onto a public city bus and just when he thinks he is in

1153
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:58,040
the clear one of the passengers on this bus looks up at the man sitting directly across

1154
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:06,320
from him looks down at the newspaper and back up at Ramirez wide eyed in complete shock.

1155
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:11,480
So imagine seeing the serial killer you know is loose.

1156
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,000
Like right in front of you.

1157
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,000
Looking up casually.

1158
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,520
With the newspaper in your hand.

1159
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,520
On your way to work.

1160
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,760
You're on your way home.

1161
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,040
You fucking see a serial killer standing right in front of you like holy shit.

1162
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,640
I feel like I don't.

1163
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,640
I am not okay.

1164
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,640
Sorry I'm gonna take a Uber.

1165
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,640
I don't even.

1166
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,440
Like obviously like I know what to do but I feel like what do I do?

1167
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Yeah.

1168
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,880
I don't know I'm probably being shocked.

1169
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,480
Like I would be in shock myself.

1170
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,840
Oh easy.

1171
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:47,960
But luckily this passenger although he is in shock or although they are in shock they

1172
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,040
pull the emergency sap cord.

1173
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,200
They get off and they go to the nearest phone.

1174
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,560
Obviously once again we're still in the 80s they don't have those cellular devices.

1175
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,560
Yeah.

1176
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,560
Those big dinosaurs.

1177
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,560
Yeah they got big dinosaurs.

1178
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:07,560
I'm gonna say that we're gonna get our millennial and gen Y.

1179
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,560
Gen Y.

1180
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,560
No.

1181
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,560
Baby boomer.

1182
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,560
No it's baby boomer.

1183
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,560
It's gen Y.

1184
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,560
I think it's gen Y.

1185
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,560
Gen X.

1186
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,560
No we're gen X.

1187
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:16,560
We're gen Z.

1188
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,560
Oh we're gen Z.

1189
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,560
I think it's gen X.

1190
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:19,560
I think it's gen X.

1191
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,560
Yeah.

1192
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Gen X.

1193
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,560
Oh yeah we're gonna get our gen X.

1194
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,560
We're gonna get our millennials.

1195
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,560
Don't talk about the big cell phones.

1196
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,560
No y'all have some dinosaurs.

1197
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,560
So I'm gonna get our little ones.

1198
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,560
Don't talk about the big cell phones.

1199
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,960
So obviously they don't have their iPhones on them so they have to go outside and use

1200
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:37,960
a pay phone.

1201
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,960
Makes sense.

1202
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,080
So this encounter really had other people that were riding the bus very weirded out

1203
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,080
obviously.

1204
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,320
Yeah they're like what the fuck is going on.

1205
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,560
Yeah they're like why the fuck did this man just like freak the fuck out run off the bus

1206
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,840
and make a phone call.

1207
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,360
Like what the fuck's going on.

1208
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:59,280
So they're all looking around at this point and they start noticing the man sitting at

1209
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,560
the back of the bus.

1210
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,880
They're all pointing and saying that's him.

1211
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,160
Oh my god.

1212
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,960
So he jumps off the bus and begins to sprint down the street into ongoing traffic which

1213
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,360
only causes more attention.

1214
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,880
Fuck he think he is.

1215
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,880
Like a superhero.

1216
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,240
I don't know why it's wrong with this man.

1217
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:21,240
He's on fucking drugs obviously.

1218
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:22,240
He has to be.

1219
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:27,440
And the fact that you think you're bold enough and you're I don't know if you think he's

1220
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:33,080
God or what but he thinks he's Satan's helper.

1221
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,080
Satan himself.

1222
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,840
I don't know what the fuck he thinks he is.

1223
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:42,720
But dude running into ongoing traffic not not not not Spider-Man literally like this

1224
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,160
isn't you would think this is a movie.

1225
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,360
This actually happened you guys like what the actual shit.

1226
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:54,360
Also if you can hear me I'm adjusting my legs and my feet.

1227
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,360
Oh yeah.

1228
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,360
That is my heart.

1229
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,360
I swear.

1230
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,360
I didn't even hear that.

1231
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:07,480
So obviously that's drawing more attention to him and the police do eventually catch

1232
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,280
up to him via car and helicopter as he is running through streets attempting to ditch

1233
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,280
them.

1234
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,480
How the fuck do you think he's gonna run a helicopter anyway?

1235
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:24,880
At this point he attempts to hijack a woman's car and a man seeing this altercation wax him

1236
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,080
in the back of the head with a metal pole.

1237
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,080
Hell yeah.

1238
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,080
Period.

1239
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,080
Where the fuck are you getting a metal pole from?

1240
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,080
He keeps that motherfucker saying I'm in.

1241
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,080
He's like oh hell no.

1242
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,080
I'm screaming.

1243
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:45,960
Obviously many people just saw this man walk another man in the head with a pole.

1244
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:53,240
So after they see this happen less than four minutes an entire mob begins to form and chase

1245
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:56,680
him down the street on some vigilante shit.

1246
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,480
That's crazy.

1247
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:04,360
They eventually begin to beat the living shit out of him so badly that his scalp had been

1248
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,280
bleeding and bruises had covered his body.

1249
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,480
Oh my god.

1250
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,000
Had it not been for the police interfering moments later the mob would have literally

1251
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,000
killed him.

1252
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,000
Yeah 100%.

1253
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Ramirez was even quoted saying quote thank god you guys showed up and quote because

1254
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,440
you know now he wants to say god fuck you thanks Satan you guys.

1255
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,560
Yeah fucking piece of rotten piece of garbage dumpster fire.

1256
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,480
Practice what you preach.

1257
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,640
Anyway I wish that they would have killed him actually no I wish that he rods in prison

1258
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,640
and then experiences prison and then dies.

1259
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,640
Yeah yeah yeah.

1260
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,640
And then gets killed.

1261
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Oh yeah yeah.

1262
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:45,640
I feel like that's better.

1263
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,640
Yeah.

1264
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,800
But anyway I'm glad that the mob beat his ass.

1265
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,240
I'm glad they beat the shit out of him.

1266
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:56,120
You know I did see I think when I was looking at.

1267
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,400
There's a video of it.

1268
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,560
I think there's not a video but I think I have seen the it was like aftermath of it

1269
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,360
I think and you see the crowd like around the car.

1270
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,240
I remember the picture I don't know if it was a video or a picture I remember seeing

1271
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:12,920
but it was one of it and I think like you saw his head like bandaged up and stuff because

1272
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,120
he was so fucking beat up.

1273
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:22,720
Oh great I mean it's just like a sense of relief like finally like this guy who has

1274
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:29,160
been brutally murdering and just assaulting and hurting people all over.

1275
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,160
He deserves to hurt.

1276
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,160
He gets his.

1277
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,480
No kidding he gets his own medicine.

1278
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,200
He gets his own medicine yeah.

1279
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:47,560
So once brought into the station they positively identified him as Richard Ramirez aka the

1280
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,240
Night Sucker.

1281
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:55,800
He had been transported then from the Holland Beck Sheriff's station and crowds of people

1282
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,800
filled the air.

1283
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,200
I don't blame them.

1284
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:05,800
At this point it's October 24th 1985 and the child Richard Ramirez for the 14 murders

1285
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:11,240
is a mad house and is truly the definition of a media circus at this point.

1286
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:12,880
Yeah oh I definitely believe it.

1287
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:22,160
I always think we weren't even alive around this time and I'm like we know.

1288
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,640
The prosecution aims for the death penalty and the defense is aiming for the insanity

1289
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,720
plea all while Ramirez is having a fucking ball.

1290
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:33,360
He is intrigued by the attention he is getting.

1291
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:39,000
He laughs whenever his attorney argues with the prosecution and a couple different times

1292
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:45,040
he lifts his hands up to the press revealing a pentagram that he had tattooed on his palms

1293
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,960
and it rains out Hail Satan.

1294
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,680
We definitely have to post that picture.

1295
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,720
When being escorted out of the room.

1296
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:52,720
What a man.

1297
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:59,800
Like I mean obviously he thought of himself as some type of celebrity and to make it all

1298
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,480
worse he ended up receiving fan mail.

1299
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,240
Oh yeah I heard about that.

1300
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:07,960
NSFW photos from groupies.

1301
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,960
You name it he received it.

1302
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Yeah.

1303
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,640
Whatever you romanticize and killers I will never know.

1304
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,960
Why what is about that.

1305
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,960
I can't I think we talked about it before.

1306
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:23,800
It would be cool to do like an episode on the cycle like the psychological like why

1307
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,000
do people do that.

1308
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,000
Yeah.

1309
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:33,480
During the preliminary hearing the detectives and prosecutors decided not to include the

1310
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:39,480
child molestation charges to avoid traumatizing the kids that had been sexually assaulted

1311
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,000
anymore than they had already experienced.

1312
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,000
Understandable.

1313
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,480
So they just focused on the murder charges.

1314
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,480
Fair.

1315
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,960
You don't want to put the kids in that again.

1316
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,920
But I do think that he deserves the charges.

1317
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,000
He deserves the charges unfortunately I think.

1318
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,320
He deserves all the charges.

1319
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,320
Yeah.

1320
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,320
I'm not a lawyer or anything.

1321
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:01,160
Yeah I was gonna say I'm not a lawyer or anything but I think you would need to have

1322
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,160
witnesses there.

1323
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,160
Oh yeah he would.

1324
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,160
And you would need the kids there if you want them to.

1325
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,480
But I think it was a good idea that they got a lot of it.

1326
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:08,480
It's already so.

1327
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,960
That makes me want to cry.

1328
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,000
Like these children I am so sorry.

1329
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,000
Literally babies.

1330
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,000
So sad.

1331
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:23,440
But I mean obviously there was a lot in this case so building the case took another three

1332
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:31,560
years before the trial proceeded and well Ramirez was held for 43 crimes and 13 murders.

1333
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,360
Yeah good.

1334
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,360
That's insane.

1335
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,400
I feel like it's still not even all of them.

1336
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:45,800
Police had taken around 140 witness statements and one of which was our girl Maria Hernandez.

1337
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,800
Hey Maria.

1338
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:47,800
I love you girl.

1339
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,800
I love you.

1340
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,800
That's my home girl.

1341
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,280
She is the baddest video of the world.

1342
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,680
This girl gets literally shot at.

1343
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,800
Her roommate dies and she comes back.

1344
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,800
She's like.

1345
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,880
To the trial.

1346
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,600
You fucked up and you thought you were gonna kill me.

1347
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,600
You know what.

1348
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,000
Are you sure you want to do it again.

1349
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,080
And there's a video too.

1350
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,080
She goes to the trial.

1351
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,080
There's a video too.

1352
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,520
I remember seeing the video and she is walking boldly down this like she is coughing.

1353
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,080
She got her heels on.

1354
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,480
She got her heels on.

1355
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,000
She got her cuteness outfit on.

1356
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,800
And this girl comes through.

1357
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,400
She yeah she's in let me tell you.

1358
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,120
Maria's in her bag.

1359
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,120
She is not letting this guy get away.

1360
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,280
She is not letting this guy get away.

1361
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:40,280
Like I mean to stand up to a serial killer and be like you thought you shot me but you

1362
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:41,280
didn't.

1363
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,560
Are you sure you want to shoot me again.

1364
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:43,560
Yeah.

1365
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,560
And then she comes to the fucking trial.

1366
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,600
She's like hey but she's like the meme of Emma Roberts.

1367
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,600
Oh you thought you saw the last of me.

1368
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,840
American Horror Story where she turns around and she's like you thought you saw the last

1369
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:54,840
of me.

1370
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,360
Literally it's like that.

1371
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,600
Maria is a fucking icon.

1372
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,600
Stan.

1373
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,600
Oh my gosh.

1374
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:02,600
Fuck Beyonce.

1375
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:03,600
Maria.

1376
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:04,600
Literally Maria Hernandez.

1377
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,560
It's people like this that need to be celebrities.

1378
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,240
These people have been through it.

1379
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,720
Maria needs a platform.

1380
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,720
I want to hear her story.

1381
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:18,920
So coming to a close on September 20th 1989.

1382
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,000
So like we said this was a few years later because it took a while.

1383
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,440
The verdict did declare Ramirez guilty on all charges.

1384
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,680
Oh thank you fucking god.

1385
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,680
As they should.

1386
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:30,680
Oh sorry.

1387
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,680
As they should.

1388
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,680
As they should.

1389
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:33,680
I'm so glad.

1390
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,680
Thank god.

1391
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,680
On November 7th 1989.

1392
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:36,680
That's my birthday.

1393
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:37,680
Oh my god.

1394
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,680
I didn't even hear you say that at first.

1395
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,680
I'm sorry.

1396
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,680
I didn't even click either.

1397
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,680
I didn't even click with me.

1398
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,680
Oh my god.

1399
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:48,680
What a treat.

1400
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:49,680
Kendall's birthday.

1401
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,680
November 7th 1989.

1402
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,680
I wasn't born yet but yeah.

1403
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:59,760
Richard Ramirez had been sentenced to death by gas chamber when he was escorted out of

1404
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,760
the courtroom.

1405
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,680
He had passed by the reporters and he gave his infamous chilling quote quote.

1406
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,720
I'll see you in Disneyland.

1407
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,760
That is so fucking chilling.

1408
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,240
So he's like insinuating that hell is like Disneyland.

1409
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,240
Is that what he said?

1410
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,240
But it's a good time for him.

1411
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,240
That's what he's saying.

1412
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,240
That's a good time for him.

1413
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,240
He's like hell stay in love stay in love hell.

1414
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,240
I was gonna be like Disneyland for me.

1415
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,720
He's like he's like you guys want me to go to hell but I'll be happy there.

1416
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,120
That's what he's trying to say.

1417
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,120
Like I'll see you there.

1418
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,280
I hate this man.

1419
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,400
Oh fuck right off.

1420
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,400
No really.

1421
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,160
He's not even showing like any sign.

1422
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:41,840
Like he's a little bitch for the first point for calling someone else a bitch saying to

1423
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,200
someone else don't you know don't swear to Satan.

1424
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,200
I mean don't swear to God.

1425
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,200
Swear to Satan.

1426
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,800
And then he also got frightened off.

1427
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,160
I think in part one when I had said how he like you know like couple had you know woke

1428
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,240
up or whatever and he got frightened off.

1429
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,000
So he is clearly a little bitch.

1430
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,000
Oh for sure.

1431
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:04,960
Ben and he is a balls to first of all get a tattoo of a fucking pentagon on his hand

1432
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:10,840
and make jokes about it and then he says shit like that where he's like you never see him

1433
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,840
do something.

1434
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,360
All his victims like he doesn't care.

1435
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:18,760
Fuck off with the fucking narcissism.

1436
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:26,280
And according to find a grave in Marin County prison after two decades on death row on June

1437
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,720
7th 2013.

1438
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:29,720
So ironic.

1439
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:30,720
Okay.

1440
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,720
Obviously like.

1441
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,480
Oh that was really like recent.

1442
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,080
It's not really recent.

1443
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,920
We're in like 2023.

1444
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:37,920
Yeah.

1445
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:38,920
Yeah.

1446
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:39,920
It's like 10 years ago.

1447
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,920
Yeah.

1448
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:41,920
Wow.

1449
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:42,920
Yeah.

1450
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,480
He was aged 53.

1451
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:51,920
Richard Ramirez was in fact pronounced dead from B cell lymphoma which is a cancer of

1452
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,600
the lymphatic system.

1453
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:54,600
Lymphatic.

1454
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:55,600
Lymphatic system.

1455
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:56,600
Good riddance.

1456
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:01,680
So obviously he never made it to the gas chamber which I think he deserved.

1457
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,800
He should have lived longer and I feel like he still got the easy way out by getting cancer

1458
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,280
because he got cancer.

1459
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,040
His victims were killed by him.

1460
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,040
Like.

1461
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,040
Yeah.

1462
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,400
Like I feel like you should have brought it in jail.

1463
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,400
Yeah.

1464
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,400
Cancer was like the easy way out.

1465
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,400
I guess some people.

1466
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,400
Yeah.

1467
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,560
I guess if I'm thinking about it I feel like some people would think maybe like oh he should

1468
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,960
have just died right then and there like when he first got sentenced but no like right

1469
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:28,960
now.

1470
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,120
He was not there before the death penalty but let him rot in prison.

1471
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,120
For a number of.

1472
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,120
That had experienced.

1473
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,120
Let him.

1474
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,120
Yeah.

1475
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,680
Prison for a few years and then kill him.

1476
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:40,680
I agree.

1477
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,520
Like you are a shit ass person.

1478
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,680
You deserve to do some time for your shit ass crimes.

1479
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,320
See that's always the conflict.

1480
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,320
Yeah.

1481
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,440
I was gonna say that's always the conflict and running thing that everyone has different

1482
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,880
takes on like the death penalty because we've talked about it so many times.

1483
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,520
And I always say like I'm okay.

1484
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,240
So I'm in this case totally for the death penalty.

1485
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,000
This man had they not caught him.

1486
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,760
He would have never stopped.

1487
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,280
Like he would have never stopped.

1488
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,960
Especially because he was so random with it.

1489
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:16,040
And it's so random and I'm so thankful it's crazy what they can do with like like with

1490
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,840
evidence.

1491
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:23,200
Like it's just crazy how investigators can connect so many things together and then

1492
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,560
narrow it down to this one person.

1493
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:31,600
So like when you're talking about how like the necklace like the informant like got that

1494
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:37,120
necklace that's crazy that like someone in like the investigators in San Francisco was

1495
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,120
like oh shit.

1496
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:43,280
I think I know what this is going like I think this could be something.

1497
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,280
So he he goes forward with it and like looks into it and everything and a little bit low

1498
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,880
and behold this man was right.

1499
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:57,720
Like it was it belonged to this to Richard Ramirez after he now was acting like this

1500
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,280
fucking alias or whatever.

1501
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,280
Whatever happens.

1502
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,280
But wow.

1503
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,280
That's just wow.

1504
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:12,720
And all of that being said that is the case of the night stalker.

1505
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,720
Wow.

1506
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,120
Let's give I mean you guys can't give her a round of applause.

1507
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,640
I'm going to give her a round of applause.

1508
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,640
You did amazing guys oh my god.

1509
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,640
She's going to be back for more.

1510
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:22,640
Don't worry.

1511
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,640
Oh my god you did so good.

1512
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,640
I'm so proud of you.

1513
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:25,640
That was good.

1514
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:26,640
Wow.

1515
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:27,640
That was her first one.

1516
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:28,640
That was her first full episode.

1517
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:33,640
We were at well over an hour.

1518
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,160
So we know it's okay.

1519
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,160
You did amazing.

1520
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,760
You really took my pants off on that.

1521
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:47,240
That's not a weird you really.

1522
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,240
You blew my mind.

1523
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,240
He blew my mind.

1524
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,240
That's way better.

1525
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,240
Sorry.

1526
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,240
Yeah.

1527
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,240
It's late.

1528
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:54,440
I can't even think but a more serious note.

1529
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,240
Our hearts go out to these victims.

1530
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,240
Yes.

1531
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,240
Families.

1532
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:00,240
Of course.

1533
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:08,080
This is of course we were able to you know make late hearted jokes about some of this

1534
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,720
but well obviously not about the murders or anything.

1535
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:11,720
No.

1536
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:12,720
Yeah.

1537
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,000
Definitely about but our hearts go out to their families.

1538
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,280
I cannot imagine and I cannot imagine the people who survived.

1539
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,680
I cannot imagine you guys are survivors.

1540
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,480
You guys have a story to tell even though it's terrible.

1541
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:28,480
Yeah.

1542
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,480
That's what we're here for.

1543
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,400
We're fucking survivors.

1544
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,400
Put your name out there.

1545
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:42,120
Let everybody know that you're a badass because what the fuck especially Mr. Man who especially

1546
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,960
Maria and especially Mr. Man that got called a bitch.

1547
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:46,960
Yeah.

1548
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:47,960
You went on a bitch.

1549
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:48,960
You are not.

1550
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,560
First of all I can't see a bitch getting shot in the face and then having to chase her

1551
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,360
and chase and chew her out.

1552
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,920
I'm still stuck on that.

1553
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:56,920
That's crazy.

1554
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:05,560
But like Chris Chris for Chris yeah but for Maria too like she is so so strong.

1555
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,960
She's a final girl.

1556
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:13,520
She is a final girl and Chris and the kids there because they're the final girls and

1557
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,520
wow.

1558
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:22,280
Again I'm so happy that we were able to cover this case because it's an early one.

1559
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:29,160
Again our laughing our commentary our comedy on maybe specifically the killer and making

1560
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:36,000
fun of the killer is just always a nice it's a nice relief but at the end of the day it's

1561
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,760
all for the victims.

1562
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:45,440
We're here for the victims and maybe one day if the victim someone that is connected to

1563
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,760
this case might listen to this episode.

1564
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:53,440
I hope they know that we covered this in the best way in the best careful and caring way

1565
01:06:53,440 --> 01:07:00,800
possible and I hope that they can still get closer because wow it's crazy what one person

1566
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:01,800
can do.

1567
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,320
It's crazy that one person can ruin so many lives.

1568
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,240
Oh my god so many families so many lives.

1569
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:13,040
It's eye-opening and like and just like and like when I researched like going through

1570
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:20,440
like part one just like having part two like you really start to and we don't want to scare

1571
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,000
anybody purposely.

1572
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:29,680
I mean yeah we have a true crime podcast yes we do paranormal episodes here and there but

1573
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,000
when it comes to the true crime episodes we are here to tell someone's story.

1574
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,520
We are here to warn everyone else that people like this exist.

1575
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,720
I don't want to say that there's going to be another ritual mirrors.

1576
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,160
I don't want to assume anything like that I don't want to put that out there but I do

1577
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:50,720
want to say that there are crazy people out there and stay alert stay aware stay aware

1578
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:56,840
watch over your back lock your fucking doors lock your windows because you're in your own

1579
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,560
backyard doesn't mean that you're inherently safe.

1580
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:05,120
Yeah I still get chills from like the quote that the one friend of the police officer

1581
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:11,160
had said where she had felt being watched in the hot tub like that gave me chills.

1582
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:12,160
Yeah that definitely was cool.

1583
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,560
And I started to drive home like I am freaked out.

1584
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,840
Lock your car doors as soon as you get in.

1585
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:18,840
Lock your doors.

1586
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:19,840
I cannot imagine.

1587
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,920
Well just story be safe be vigilant be pay attention.

1588
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:29,520
Pay attention yeah and we thank you guys for sticking with us through the last two episodes

1589
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:35,080
of the Night Stalker aka ritual mirrors.

1590
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,520
This was a big case we worked on it for a while now so I hope you guys liked it.

1591
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:44,880
I hope you guys appreciate it and again I'm sure you guys understand it took us a minute

1592
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:50,280
to get through you know the last couple weeks it's been a lot for I think both of us but

1593
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:55,520
we're back we're sticking strong we hope you guys stick strong stick through with us.

1594
01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:02,480
We're working on the New Year right and the next episode we will not give it away yet

1595
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:05,680
but we can tell you it's gonna be a spooky episode.

1596
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:10,720
It's about time we go back to that because we have not covered a spooky episode since

1597
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,240
I couldn't tell you when.

1598
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,360
Couldn't tell you the last episode.

1599
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:18,080
Black Eyed Children or The Black Eyed Children?

1600
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,720
The Black Eyed Children was one.

1601
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:20,720
We did the first movies.

1602
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,400
That was maybe the first movies I think was the last one.

1603
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,400
Yeah that was back in October.

1604
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:27,400
It's January.

1605
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,640
I think it was I don't know we'd have to go back.

1606
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:31,640
We'd have to go back.

1607
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,640
We'd have on the fuck episode 19.

1608
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,640
Kendall's been grinding people.

1609
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,640
No seriously.

1610
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,640
Full credit Kendall's been grinding.

1611
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:45,040
Thank you I appreciate it yeah I've had some restless nights of like doing the research.

1612
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:49,600
I've been bugging like Bre texting her like hey this is sound good does that sound good

1613
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:50,600
and Bre's like.

1614
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,480
Literally whatever you write is amazing.

1615
01:09:53,480 --> 01:09:55,480
Yeah thank you I appreciate it.

1616
01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:58,520
Do you want to try this new concept?

1617
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,600
I'm like of fucking course.

1618
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,720
Cool because yeah we have some cool things coming up this year and I'm proud.

1619
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,320
Like I said we're gonna work a lot harder on getting a TikTok ready.

1620
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:11,720
We want to do a lot more for the show.

1621
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:18,320
We really think that the shows getting traction and we're happy about it.

1622
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:23,040
We just want to make sure that we're getting as much as we can to it and making sure that

1623
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,200
you guys appreciate us and what we do.

1624
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,720
We love doing it and we're happy to be here.

1625
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:35,680
With that said please make sure to like follow we never say that make sure we do at the end

1626
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,000
I just never said it.

1627
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,640
Make sure to like us or follow us wherever you're listening to us.

1628
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:50,440
We of course will be posting as usual all the photos of every case on our Instagram.

1629
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:55,360
Our Instagram is at WTLGO podcast.

1630
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:59,400
You can follow me at this is Kinal Hudson.

1631
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:03,600
You can look up our Facebooks or Twitter but we will not use it so if you guys want to

1632
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:11,120
create you know some kind of chat yourself by all means but also send in and send us

1633
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,400
your stories this year at some point in the year.

1634
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,880
We really want to get to doing some listener stories.

1635
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,520
So if you guys have any stories if you guys don't feel like typing it but you've heard

1636
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,440
someone else's story tell them to come and send it to us.

1637
01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:32,320
We will link our of course again Instagram's emails and all that in the show notes so you

1638
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,400
can find those in the show notes.

1639
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:42,280
Until then and until the next episode we will see you next when the light goes out.

1640
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,080
Good night or sorry not good night.

1641
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,600
You might not have listened to this.

1642
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,160
Yeah whenever you're listening to this.

1643
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:52,040
Good morning or good night or good afternoon.

1644
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,040
We'll see you soon.

1645
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,040
Bye.

1646
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:06,040
Bye.