1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,880 Before we start today's episode, we just wanted to give a quick content warning. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,840 Today's episode will cover sexual assault and child abuse. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,400 If that's something that you don't really want to hear right now, we understand completely. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,680 And we will see you in the next episode. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,400 Listener discretion is advised. 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,920 Why on earth would you have hurt those people? 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Why did you kill those people? 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,000 I know you've come. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,680 No comment. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,280 I cannot answer that at this time. 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,840 I'm Kendall. 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,880 And I'm Bree. 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,760 And this is When the Light... 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,760 Goes out. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Hey! 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Hey. 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,280 To my coyotes. 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,280 I know. 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,280 Hey everyone. 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,440 You know it's been a minute since we've made our debut appearance this year. 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,600 So I'm sorry for that. 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,000 It's only been two weeks. 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Happy New Year. 24 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Happy New Year. 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Yeah. 26 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,560 Your guys are like, that was like what? 27 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,560 How long ago? 28 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,560 It's cool. 29 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,560 Just a fresh... 30 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,560 What's the day's date? 31 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,560 Today's 11... 32 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,560 12? 33 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,560 Get fresh 12 days ago. 34 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Yeah. 35 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,560 Yeah. 36 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,360 So yeah, we're making this right before we release it, which is not new for us, but 37 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,360 it's fine. 38 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,640 It's kind of my fault. 39 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,480 Everybody wish Kendall good luck. 40 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,480 Yeah, definitely. 41 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,480 Thank you. 42 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,480 I appreciate that. 43 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,040 It's been a long week. 44 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,840 I feel like it's been a long couple weeks for I think both of us. 45 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,840 I'm not gonna lie. 46 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,040 I had ended up going to Toronto for New Year's, which was really fun I guess. 47 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,920 And you know, with some friends. 48 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,880 I got really sick throughout Christmas, which really sucked. 49 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:59,360 That was icing on top of the cake and on top of that, I just really...mental health 50 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,360 things. 51 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Guys, make sure that you're taking care of your mental health because I get it. 52 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,000 These days it's rough. 53 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,000 It really is. 54 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 I don't know. 55 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,400 It kind of went into 2023 stumbling, but we're making it through. 56 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,400 Nevertheless, we'd aggress. 57 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,400 And progress. 58 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,760 Yeah, seriously though. 59 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,720 But we are making up for it today. 60 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,520 We're here today. 61 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,280 It's also, when it comes out at least, Friday the 13th. 62 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,720 So happy Friday the 13th everybody. 63 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Ah! 64 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Ah! 65 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,720 No. 66 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,560 We're gonna insert some blood curdling screams. 67 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,200 Oh, I will put that in there. 68 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Let's do that. 69 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,200 Cool. 70 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,200 It's in there. 71 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,200 Love. 72 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Love. 73 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Well, so we had got some things pushed back because we have not been able to release 74 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,520 some things in the last couple of weeks. 75 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:58,720 We just really needed that time to just recuperate, which all of us need it. 76 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,680 All of us need it sometimes, yeah. 77 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,760 So we put some things back, but we don't want to erase everything. 78 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,040 We kept what we initially wanted. 79 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,680 Some things to get rearranged. 80 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,680 It's okay. 81 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,680 It happens. 82 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:21,200 But today we are covering the case of Richard Ramirez, aka the Night Stalker. 83 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,560 Yeah, I know. 84 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,000 I think we should come on guys. 85 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Yeah. 86 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,560 I think, I feel like we both been a little excited to do this for a minute now. 87 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,920 So we'll see how that goes and when we dive into everything. 88 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,640 But before we do that to Brie Huff, you Ben, I haven't seen you in like, so long. 89 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,640 It's been so long. 90 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,640 I've been chilling. 91 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,640 You've been chilling. 92 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,640 I get it. 93 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:50,640 I know you've had a like the last like, what, couple days? 94 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:51,640 Last, yeah. 95 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Just a week ago at Mom PTO. 96 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,640 So you guys, I've just been like chilling, relaxing, getting things done. 97 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,640 Yeah. 98 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,920 Doing stuff that I need to do. 99 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,560 I know, Brie does not take days off. 100 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,560 That's the thing with her. 101 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,560 I do not take days off. 102 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,880 I don't know how she does it because I need days off or I will go fucking crazy. 103 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,880 So I get it though. 104 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Every once in a while. 105 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Yeah. 106 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,000 The little where I like accidentally sleep until like 2pm and then my day is kind of 107 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,480 over because I slept in. 108 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,480 No, I get that. 109 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,560 But you're not enough to have days off because I always, always, always have to be there. 110 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,960 I mean, you're still hard working. 111 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:30,960 You're still hard working though. 112 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,080 I mean, you have the show, you have your site business and you have your full time job. 113 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,200 Like you're doing a lot and I give you an applause for that guys. 114 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Let's all clap. 115 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,200 School. 116 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,200 School is back in session. 117 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,700 It started this week. 118 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:44,700 Oh, that is true. 119 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:45,700 That is true. 120 00:04:45,700 --> 00:04:46,700 Oh my God. 121 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:49,200 I actually have to take a syllabus quiz. 122 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Wow. 123 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,480 This is your last semester of college though. 124 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:53,480 So you're almost done. 125 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,480 I'm so proud of you. 126 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Finally graduate. 127 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,480 I love it. 128 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,480 Finally. 129 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,240 No, it's about time. 130 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,240 It's about damn time. 131 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,440 I'm so glad to not have it on my plate anymore. 132 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Good. 133 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,040 No, it's going to be like a big way lifting off your shoulders and telling you it's going 134 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,040 to be so nice. 135 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,040 Oh, I know. 136 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,200 This week of not having to deal with it. 137 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,400 Like the whole break, I guess, of not like focusing on school is crazy. 138 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,240 You'll have more time for your boyfriend. 139 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Yeah, more time for your bestie. 140 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,800 Now, hell yeah. 141 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,360 More time for everything. 142 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Yeah, no, seriously. 143 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,360 It's fair. 144 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:35,400 I think before I dive into the case, no, like I haven't really personally been on social 145 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,400 media for the last several weeks and I honestly also have not really been caught up on the 146 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,400 news. 147 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,040 I don't know if there's any new cases or things like that going on. 148 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:52,680 I do know that we talked about how the guy who had committed the it's a. 149 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,680 Idaho murder. 150 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,680 Idaho murderers. 151 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Yeah. 152 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,040 And I caught the guy, which is really good. 153 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,600 Very unfortunate for the four people that had ended up losing their lives. 154 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:09,120 But you know, hopefully they, their families do find justice because that is very important, 155 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,280 of course. 156 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:16,320 And in terms of horror movies lately, I saw Megan. 157 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,320 I said, yeah, I actually kind of liked it. 158 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:25,480 I was going and expecting it to be a lot like Chucky or something. 159 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,880 It was it had its own little flair to it. 160 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:35,720 So I know that it was produced by Jason Blum and James Wan, which are two big, really big 161 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:41,360 like Hollywood or movie producers or whatever, you know, like Blumhouse and whatever else. 162 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,120 So they did a good job on the movie. 163 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,120 I liked it. 164 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Go see it guys. 165 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,120 It was really good. 166 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,960 So yeah, that's all the horror movie news I have today. 167 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,560 Sorry, that's short and sweet. 168 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,200 But let's dive into the case because we have a lot to get through. 169 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,640 It's a big one. 170 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,640 It's a big one. 171 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,880 And we're going to do it in two parts. 172 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,840 Each part is 11 that pages long of notes. 173 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:04,960 So strap in. 174 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,840 I know we put a little disclaimer at the beginning, but seriously, guys, this is a pretty, pretty 175 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,840 gruesome one. 176 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,480 So definitely strap in and get ready because it's story time. 177 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,600 It's story time. 178 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,040 It's still a time. 179 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,040 All right. 180 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:27,720 So today we dive in to a story about pure evil, a being so malignant that some even 181 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:33,160 referred to the serial killer as one of the most evil of them all. 182 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,080 This is Richard Wemiras, a.k.a. the Night Stalker. 183 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,560 I'm sure most of you guys have heard this. 184 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:45,480 It's a very, very popular, like infamous serial killer. 185 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,240 Yeah, no, it really is. 186 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,880 And he does some really fucked up shit. 187 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,680 I just do most of the people we talk about. 188 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,560 It's the murder podcast where he's supposed to do, I guess. 189 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,960 That's a good point. 190 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Yeah. 191 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,200 Well, Wemiras is a brutal murderer that killed at least two and plus 15 people. 192 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:09,520 So it's just insane that, you know, that might have been everything we know of, but 193 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,920 we don't know for sure. 194 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,360 You never really know what these people, if they committed more murders, things like 195 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,360 that. 196 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:24,320 Yeah, it was in and around Los Angeles and San Francisco, California between June 1984 197 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,160 and August of 1985. 198 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,280 This is a man that stood six feet and sorry, that was weird. 199 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:37,760 That was a man that stood six one and always wore a ACDC cap covering his wavy black hair 200 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:43,600 and a rich of teeth with a grin so frightening that many claim to have seen the devil right 201 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,000 through his piercing black eyes. 202 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,760 He was also very kind of like lean and skinny. 203 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Very yeah. 204 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,760 He was very lean and skinny. 205 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:52,760 Very tall, skinny. 206 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,000 He had very gross messed up teeth. 207 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Yeah. 208 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Very gaunt. 209 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Very yeah. 210 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 211 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:07,680 And from what I hear, everyone says how he always was very smelly. 212 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:09,920 Like he always had a weird potent punch in. 213 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:10,920 Yeah. 214 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,280 If you guys look up photos of this guy, he is fucking. 215 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,480 He looks like he has a halotide skin. 216 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,480 Yeah. 217 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,680 And it's just, I can only imagine going into this already how these victims had to go through 218 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:25,560 this because oh my God, I have literally not even kidding you guys. 219 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:31,280 I've had nightmares about this guy just researching him for the last couple weeks now. 220 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,280 And it's off. 221 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,800 He did a lot of fucked up shit. 222 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:41,440 His first alleged murder victim was a 79 year old woman by the name of Jenny Vinko. 223 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:48,640 On June 28th, 1984, son of Jenny, Jack Vinko actually lived in the same apartment complex 224 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:54,440 as his mother, which was in Eagle Rock, the Eagle Rock apartments in Los Angeles. 225 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,480 It was kind of weird for Jack that day because he hadn't been called over by his mother that 226 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,000 morning well into the afternoon. 227 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,480 And they were like butter on toast. 228 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,960 They were really, they communicated all the time. 229 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,600 They were always close to each other. 230 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,400 So they always had that kind of going on for them. 231 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,800 And the last time he had seen his mother was a day prior. 232 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:22,280 So nearly 24 hours later, a little worried, Jack goes down to check in on his mother, 233 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:27,000 assuming that he could just let himself in with his mother's spare key. 234 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,800 Jack goes to let himself into her apartment, but then realizes that the apartment door 235 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,840 of his mother Jenny was left unlocked, which was unusual and definitely not like her at 236 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,040 all. 237 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:45,680 So Jack later testifies saying, quote, I looked around the living room and I saw everything 238 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:47,840 thrown around the floor. 239 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:54,280 As he proceeded to look for her, it was then after entering her bedroom where he had found 240 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,880 his mother laying sprout out on the bed in the dark. 241 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,520 After several times of calling her name, he got no response. 242 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:09,880 After a close glance, his eyes adjusted to a truly horrifying scene. 243 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,040 We're diving right in, guys. 244 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,560 Jack had seen a brutally slain Jenny Vinco sprout out on her bed. 245 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:24,280 She had been stabbed, sexually assaulted, and her throat had been slashed so deeply 246 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,360 that her head had nearly been decapitated from her body. 247 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:45,920 How did anyone know this was the murder from one truly terrifying monster? 248 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:57,640 Richard Ramirez was originally born Ricardo Livia Ramirez on February 28, 1960. 249 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,640 He was born El Paso, Texas, to Julian Ramirez and Mercedes Ramirez. 250 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:07,000 Richard was actually the youngest of seven, though his childhood alone was not very sweet 251 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,140 at all. 252 00:12:08,140 --> 00:12:12,600 He actually had a pretty terrible childhood, and most of that was left in the hands of 253 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,320 his abusive father Julian and his own cousin Mike. 254 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,320 There was not a ton of information on Richard's mother or anything that I kept finding, Mercedes, 255 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:28,240 other than both of his parents being Mexican immigrants, but according to reports, Richard's 256 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,560 father was violent towards him and his siblings. 257 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:38,200 Richard's siblings alone were exactly raised to be innocent either. 258 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,920 There had been a report of Richard's older brother Ruben that had said he was arrested 259 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,920 on a car theft. 260 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:56,720 He said it developing this weird glue sniffing addiction. 261 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:02,960 The oldest of the siblings, Robert, had developed a drug problem. 262 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Like we have mentioned before too, we don't blame you for feeling sorry for the child 263 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,520 version of a serial killer because I feel like kids really need to be nurtured and cared 264 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,520 for. 265 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:19,560 I think out of 10, these aren't the situations where they turn out being the greatest in 266 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:20,640 the long run. 267 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:26,400 It's unfortunate and I feel bad for Richard because he didn't really get the chance to 268 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,400 ... 269 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:32,760 Yeah, it's out of his control that he grew up in that environment, I guess. 270 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:40,320 Yeah, it really is just terrifyingly sad that... and you'll see in a minute that he just 271 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,720 really went through a lot and he didn't really get a chance from the start, from the jump. 272 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,920 It wasn't in his favor to be some... maybe he could have been in a band or he could have 273 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,360 been some cool business dude or something. 274 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,760 But to clarify that doesn't mean anything for his actions. 275 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,320 No, not at all. 276 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Like we said in the last couple episodes, there have been many of people who have had some 277 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,040 terrible childhoods and did not grow up to be serial killers. 278 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Yeah, they changed things. 279 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,920 They didn't justify his actions or anything, but it is very unfortunate that he did have 280 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,160 to have a childhood like that. 281 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,320 Yeah, definitely. 282 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:23,240 Yeah, and many researchers speculate and justify this behavior that he had later on by many 283 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,800 saying that it was a result of all the head injuries that his father may have inflicted 284 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,120 on him. 285 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:34,360 They suggest that he may have developed temporal lobe epilepsy. 286 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:40,440 There have also been several sources I shared about how at an early age of two, two years 287 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:46,680 old, Trester had fallen on top of Richard, giving him a forehead laceration. 288 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Another time at the age of five, according to AETV. 289 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,680 Wait, and those like dressers in like the 60s and 70s were heavy. 290 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,960 That was not no IKEA press board. 291 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:58,960 Hell no. 292 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,680 That was so... oak. 293 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,880 Yeah, exactly. 294 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Yeah. 295 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,680 This is mahogany, sorry. 296 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,680 No, seriously. 297 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,520 Yeah, no, you're right. 298 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,280 That shit is not like at all. 299 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,200 To think about that, it's just terrifying that a kid had had that happen to them. 300 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,720 Yeah, that's not like that IKEA mall. 301 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,720 It's been falling on a kid. 302 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:20,720 No, not at all. 303 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:21,720 It's like a wooden oak tree. 304 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,720 Jesus. 305 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:28,480 And so, and another time at age five, according to AETV, he was swinging on a swing and somehow 306 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,960 knocked was knocked unconscious. 307 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,800 It was then that he started experiencing epileptic seizures. 308 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:41,880 So two things like that to happen on top of your father allegedly being abusive. 309 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:48,240 And then next on top of that, his cousin, Mike, was definitely a bad influence and definitely 310 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,320 the definition of a bad influence. 311 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Mike was fairly young at the time, maybe I want to say like early to mid-20s. 312 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:01,480 He had moved into the Ramirez home after returning from war. 313 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:08,160 He'd tell Richard about all this fascinating stories, quote, unquote, about the torture 314 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,040 and mutilation he once inflicted on these women. 315 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,760 I've heard this. 316 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,760 And then... 317 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,760 Yeah, keep going. 318 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,760 Oh, sorry. 319 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:16,760 No, it's okay. 320 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:17,760 I spoiled it. 321 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:18,760 No, it's okay. 322 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,720 And now I was just going to say, yeah, he inflicted so much torture on these Vietnamese 323 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,320 women that he had, Matt, when he was serving in the Vietnam War. 324 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,360 But Mike wouldn't just share these stories. 325 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,360 He followed up with the stories by sharing terrifying Polaroid photos. 326 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,800 He had taken of these women that he had raped, tortured and killed. 327 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Still a child. 328 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,800 Richard really just started seeing his cousin as a role model because of this. 329 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,040 Yeah, like his cousin almost inspired him. 330 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,160 Yeah, you literally almost did. 331 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,000 He was kind of like his person to look up to. 332 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,000 And I'm like... 333 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,360 Also, can we talk about how his cousin is also a serial killer, but just a war? 334 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,360 Yeah, a war? 335 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,360 Yeah. 336 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Isn't that crazy? 337 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Like, Jesus. 338 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,080 And keep in mind, like I said, Richard is so young at this time. 339 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,920 So it's like, this is what you're learning. 340 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,840 This is what you're taking from. 341 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,840 It's just... 342 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,800 Oh, it's crazy. 343 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,440 And it's like, this is a crazy family. 344 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,240 It was one of those kind of like, you know, from the start from the jump, the family was 345 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,400 just awful. 346 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,360 So like I said, Mike wouldn't share these stories. 347 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:31,520 He would share these horrific and terrifying Polaroid photos with him. 348 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,680 And they were just disgusting photos. 349 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,200 Still a child. 350 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,960 Richard had really started seeing his cousin as the role model. 351 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,840 And around this time, Richard was about 12 years old. 352 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,800 So the two would casually just smoke marijuana, which would spark Richard's interest to 353 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,760 jerk use, which is insane because the kid is 12 years old. 354 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:52,760 What the fuck? 355 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,480 Man, I think I was still playing on Barbie's. 356 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,200 I was playing on Barbie's myself. 357 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,200 Like, what? 358 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,200 I... 359 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,800 Yeah, it's just insane. 360 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,000 And by the age of 13, according to the book The Night Stalker, The Life and Crimes of 361 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,400 Richard Ramirez by Philip Carlo, Richard really idolized his cousin and began to become 362 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,480 a rouse from the violent stories that his cousin would tell to him about this Vietnam 363 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,200 woman that he would just torture. 364 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:28,320 So in addition, Ramirez had also been in the company of his cousin when his wife and 365 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,400 him had gotten to this altercation. 366 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,400 And his cousin, Mike, literally shoots his wife at point-blank range in the face. 367 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,400 Ah! 368 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,400 Yeah. 369 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,400 Yeah. 370 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,400 Girl. 371 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,640 Like, literally, he was just there as a kid and I want to, like I said, he was like 13 372 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,680 years old at this time. 373 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,880 His fucking cousin shoots his wife in the face in front of this kid. 374 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,880 Ah! 375 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,600 Over an altercation? 376 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,200 Over an altercation, yeah. 377 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,400 Oh, oh my God. 378 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,400 Yeah. 379 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Crazy enough, somehow, Mike had only been given four-year prison sentence. 380 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:05,880 Why? 381 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,280 And was found not guilty on the grounds of insanity. 382 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,280 Why? 383 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,880 Oh, thank you. 384 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,680 It's not insanely crazy. 385 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:14,680 It's just, oh. 386 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:21,440 Okay, I will be leaving, I'm packing out my bags and I am moving to outer space. 387 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,440 Crazy. 388 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,120 It's just like, from the jump, I'm finding. 389 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:26,280 That's not insanity. 390 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Thank you. 391 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Yeah, like you're- There's no insanity. 392 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,360 You've killed your wife, and not only did you kill your wife, but these people don't 393 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:38,360 even know about the fact that he kills all these Vietnamese women. 394 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,760 I'm sorry, how is that insanity? 395 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,960 This man is a serial- Oh my God. 396 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,440 Okay, I had a story for a different day. 397 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:52,760 So it was not until 1977 at the age of 17 when Richard faced his first arrest. 398 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,000 Crazy enough, it was just from a marijuana possession. 399 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:03,480 So some sources suggest that he was arrested for a string of petty crimes between 1977 400 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,200 and 1982. 401 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,000 The most referenced it being just from a marijuana possession. 402 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,320 So that's what I found, that's just what I'll go with for now. 403 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:22,160 But shortly after being released is when Ramirez picked up and moved to Texas to California. 404 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,440 Nothing good progressed from this move. 405 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:31,560 He started to rely on cocaine and soon developing a pretty gnarly cocaine addiction, began 406 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:38,160 burglarizing homes, became fascinated with weapons, and began educating himself on Satanism 407 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:44,120 and infamous serial killers such as Ted Bundy and the Hillside Stringler. 408 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:50,560 For anyone unaware, the story flows into the 80s and many, and especially in California, 409 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,520 or Southern California that is, were very fearful of anyone that claimed to practice 410 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:00,080 witchcraft or groups that roamed around claiming to worship Satan. 411 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,360 All the more in Southern California residents were already just dealing with the crimes 412 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:11,040 of the Hillside Stringler like I just said, and the crimes of the Manson family. 413 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,560 That ranged between the late 60s. 414 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,480 And this cult definitely does some damage, girl. 415 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,880 So that alone helped promote the Satanic Panic well into the 70s and 80s. 416 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:28,640 So the making of this monster really just made everything way worse in the realm of 417 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,080 the western United States. 418 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:36,640 And like we mentioned, where Tuamirez had a list of pretty crimes, and it just kept 419 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,840 growing and growing between the late 1970s and early 80s, already being the product of 420 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:48,000 abuse and neglect by his father and having a murderous cousin that murdered his life right 421 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,800 in front of him as a child, definitely is a starter pack for a co-buddied killer. 422 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,560 So I'm just saying that. 423 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,200 And as we have seen from countless other serial killers, like Brie had said, after experiencing 424 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,560 a terrible childhood trauma, being shown that torturing people is an option to them, dabbling 425 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:13,120 in hardcore drugs and starting off with petty crimes, it's always some reason like the structure 426 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:16,240 of a serial killer for some reason. 427 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,240 It's just weird. 428 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,080 It's crazy that that works like that. 429 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,400 I'm not saying it's everybody, but it seems to be a lot of the people at least we've covered. 430 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:30,520 So, but being that Ramirez has hit all these points leads up to what we believe is Richard's 431 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,000 first murder. 432 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,760 Of course, this comes from a full circle to the beginning of our story when we had talked 433 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:46,440 about June 28th, 1984, when Ramirez tragically murdered 79 year old Jenny Vinko in her apartment 434 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,200 in Eagle Rock, Los Angeles. 435 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,000 It is not unusual that Ramirez still have right into this murder so unhinged. 436 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:02,160 Most murders this gruesome are usually connected to someone the victim knew or was close to 437 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,120 because of how personal the slaying is, but the thing about Richard Ramirez is that he 438 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:07,760 didn't have an MO. 439 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,760 He just killed. 440 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,960 Yeah, he just did it to do it. 441 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:17,040 Yeah, the reason he is found to be one of the most terrifying serial killers is because 442 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,360 he never had a vendetta, never had one. 443 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:27,760 He just found a hobby and wondering into anyone's home, raping, murdering them, robbing them, 444 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,280 and for fun of it just doing it just to do it. 445 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,280 Yeah, and he didn't really have a, correct me if I'm wrong, but he didn't really have 446 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,880 like a type either. 447 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,640 Like it was just any woman. 448 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,640 Any woman. 449 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,640 Yeah, you're right. 450 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:47,000 No, any woman and he did do some things to little boys too and huh, whole sleep passes 451 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,480 it, but yeah, he really had no specific MO. 452 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,480 Yeah, it was just like. 453 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,400 Most of the time he did and of course like I said, we'll go into it in a minute here, 454 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:03,040 but he often went for the man first just to get him out the way and then of course went 455 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,920 for the woman if she was in the house at the time. 456 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,200 So, yeah, this was an individual that broke into homes not knowing who do you find on 457 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:21,440 the other side of the door and had no problem hurting the men, women or children. 458 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,880 Oftentimes he did this in middle of the night, which is even more terrifying. 459 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,840 Hence his alias that we will talk about a little later, but it is also crazy to think 460 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:37,400 that that all occurred in the 80s revolving around the serial killers because I feel like 461 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,400 there was a lot of serial killers around this time for some reason in the 80s, just at least 462 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,760 active, especially in Western America at least. 463 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,960 There was around this time the BTK killer that had also been active. 464 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,720 He was active in Wichita, Kansas around this time. 465 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,840 His actual name was Dennis Lynn Raider. 466 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,240 BTK, fine torture killed. 467 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:09,920 Yeah, yeah, he would bound, yep, his female victims, he would torture them and he would 468 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,040 kill them, hence the name. 469 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:19,560 And it's just truly terrifying that unfortunately this is also happening around the same exact 470 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,680 time as Wichita Ramirez being active in California. 471 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,760 And oftentimes he would take them out of the bed, he would do it when they were sleeping 472 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,080 and force their husbands to watch. 473 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Don't know if he'll cover that someday, but it's a pretty crazy and early case. 474 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:43,240 After the murder of Jenny Vinko, several months had gone by before Ramirez was struck again, 475 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:51,800 and believe it or not things got crazier from here because on March 17th, 1985, 22 year 476 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:58,320 old Maria Hernandez was just coming back from work and was pulling up to her condo in Rosemead, 477 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:05,440 California, that she had also shared with her then 34 year old roommate, Del Okazoski. 478 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:12,320 As Maria had pulled into the garage and began to get out, a tall, strange man dressed in 479 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:19,160 all black from head to toe wearing a black AC DC cap walks right into the garage and 480 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040 slams his head down on the car. 481 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:30,880 She then turns around to see this guy standing right before her. 482 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:37,400 Well, as soon as she looks down, she sees him holding a.22 caliber pistol, he raises 483 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,600 it and shoots her. 484 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,720 As soon as he shoots, she quickly raises her arm to protect her face. 485 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,560 She flies backwards to the ground and Ramirez just steps right over her and heads into her 486 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:56,440 home where Del Okazoski was unpacking her groceries in the kitchen. 487 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,920 But Ramirez did not realize that Maria was not dead. 488 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:08,560 Maria had actually been hit at all because the bullet she had been shot with ricocheted 489 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:14,600 off her car keys when she had raised her arms which had forcefully pushed her to the ground. 490 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,600 What a lucky shot. 491 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,600 What a lucky move. 492 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,560 It's like an unlucky, lucky shot. 493 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:27,680 When a few minutes go by, Maria just lays there, she lays still. 494 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,680 First of all, she's recovering from that blow to the ground, but also until she hears her 495 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,080 attacker close the door from behind him, she's very clever about this. 496 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,120 She's a bad bitch. 497 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:44,480 The next thing she is thinking is, ok, odds are he's going to come back through that door 498 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,960 at any moment and he could still shoot me and kill me for good measure, so I need to go 499 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,760 and find help. 500 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:58,120 So she gets up and starts running down this alleyway between the condominiums, but she 501 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:03,160 hears a shot ring out from inside the condo and becomes conflicted because she knows her 502 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,680 roommate is inside but knows that she also needs to get help. 503 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,960 So she turns around and she heads back to the condo, the condo's front door, this time 504 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,080 to avoid running into her attacker again. 505 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:20,000 For a while, inside of the condo, when Maria had first pulled into the garage, Dale herself 506 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:26,360 had just gone grocery shopping and was unpacking groceries when she hears a gun go off right 507 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,640 outside of the back door to the garage. 508 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,640 So she crouches down behind the kitchen's counter and it's dead quiet. 509 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:42,480 After she hears the back door open and close, a couple minutes go by and she peeks up from 510 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:49,360 behind the counter through the groceries where Richard Ramirez had been standing right there 511 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,880 staring dead at her on the other side of the counter. 512 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:59,080 It was around this time that Maria heard a gun go off inside of the condo and she turns 513 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:05,160 back around to go help her roommate and just as she reaches the front door thinking that 514 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,320 he's about to come out the exit in the house that he came through, he comes out of the 515 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,880 front door and they both stare at each other dead in shock because Richard had thought 516 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:23,120 he shot her dead and so Richard raises his arm with a.22 caliber and just as he does, 517 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,920 Maria says, you already shot me once, do you really want to shoot me again? 518 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,920 At that moment, Ramirez lures his gun and just casually walks away. 519 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,920 She's sassy. 520 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,920 I like her. 521 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,920 Oh my god. 522 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,920 She said, you failed once. 523 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Are you really going to try again? 524 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,840 This is a bad bitch. 525 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,840 I'm telling you. 526 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,840 She is a bad. 527 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,240 If I was roommates with her, I feel like I would have just ran and got help. 528 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,720 I feel like I would have not went back. 529 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,720 Yeah. 530 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,320 See, that has always like the question of what, because I get where she's coming from. 531 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,320 Oh yeah. 532 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,320 Like save your friends. 533 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,320 Save your friends. 534 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,600 But I feel like I'd be like, I'm so sorry. 535 00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,600 I love you. 536 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,360 I'm going to live with regret for my whole life, but like I need help. 537 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,840 You have to protect yourself too. 538 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,840 Like I need help. 539 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,840 Yeah. 540 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,000 And I just almost got shot. 541 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000 I need help. 542 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 I'm just going to get in my house. 543 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,840 How did she know that would work? 544 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,840 She didn't. 545 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,840 She's a bad bitch. 546 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,840 I love her. 547 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,840 What's her name? 548 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,840 Maria. 549 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,840 Yeah, Maria. 550 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Maria. 551 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,840 If you're still alive, you're a bad bitch. 552 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,840 Let me tell you. 553 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,320 And spoiler, she does live and this girl comes back later and let me tell you. 554 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,320 Oh, look. 555 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Okay. 556 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,320 She fucks it up cause. 557 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,320 Okay, period. 558 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,320 Come on. 559 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Keep going. 560 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:35,480 So thereafter, Maria had rushed into the condo and locked the door behind her. 561 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:42,480 And as soon as she walked into the ransacked kitchen, she had seen her roommate, Dale Akazoski, 562 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,680 laying dead in the kitchen. 563 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,640 She had received a bullet to the forehead at point blank range. 564 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,280 See, that's all I'm saying is she heard that gunshot. 565 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,520 So I'd be like, there's no way. 566 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,520 There's no way. 567 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,520 Yeah. 568 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,600 So I would have just kept her. 569 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,720 She's lucky that he decided to just let her go. 570 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,800 Oh, I'm just thinking about it too. 571 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,160 And I'm like, it would have been for no reason. 572 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,160 She would have turned back for no reason. 573 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:10,680 Like I can't imagine this happening, but imagine you're like, okay, you're trying to be, you're 574 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,480 trying to be that final girl, right? 575 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080 But you're like, okay, I'm conflicted. 576 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Like I just heard that and I'm scared for my friend. 577 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,000 Like, I don't know what to do. 578 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,600 Like Lord forbid this ever happened. 579 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Like what? 580 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,160 I don't know why I would do in that situation. 581 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,640 Yeah, I don't want to like go get help and go protect myself. 582 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640 But at the same time, I see again what she was doing. 583 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,280 But I couldn't, that trauma must sit with you. 584 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:42,080 And honestly, I don't know how I would feel after that, but I can only imagine the scary 585 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,680 fact that this man had randomly walked up to me and just held a gun to my face and shot 586 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,640 me and I had really threw it and then my roommate didn't. 587 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,760 I mean, the whole experience is traumatic. 588 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,960 Oh, it's just so sad. 589 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:03,720 So fortunately, sorry, fortunately, Maria was able to live through this just traumatizing 590 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,720 event. 591 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,360 Like I said, she called 911 or she gave a pretty accurate description of their attacker. 592 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:16,960 He was about six one wearing a black members only bomber jacket, which was very popular 593 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880 brand at the time. 594 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:28,160 She wore black pants, black shoes and a black AC DC cap, which mistakenly Richard had left 595 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,280 behind at the crime scene on the floor of the garage. 596 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,280 Dummy. 597 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,280 Dumb bitch. 598 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,280 Yeah. 599 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,920 As I run as long as it took for anyone to catch this man, he had a pretty bad habit 600 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,600 of leaving shit behind as evidence at these crime scenes. 601 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,920 And you will definitely see in a moment that he did it almost at every crime scene. 602 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:54,280 So only 40 minutes after the murder of Dale Okazosky, one mile away from that crime scene 603 00:32:54,280 --> 00:33:03,040 and the city of Monterrey Park, a 30 year old woman by the name of Si Leon, sorry, Si 604 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,120 Leon Yao had been yanked out of her car and shot in the chest. 605 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,240 God, the forensic department later connected the cases together as being both victims of 606 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280 a 22 caliber pistol. 607 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,360 But somehow annoyingly. 608 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,680 They didn't even choose to believe that these two deaths could be by the same person. 609 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,360 So that's really fucking annoying right now. 610 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,440 And I think that the LOPD is going to pistol off a little more throughout this. 611 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,320 Don't come for us, but we'll get through it. 612 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:44,320 So March 27, 1985, 10 days after the two murders of Dale Okazosky and Si Leon Yao, police got 613 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,800 another report of a double murder in Whittier County. 614 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,960 What happened that night? 615 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,640 Gotta brace yourself, because this is pretty gnarly. 616 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,920 So when Meera's goes into this house by climbing through an unlocked bathroom window and finds 617 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:05,760 his balance by stepping on a plastic paint can that was against the wall, he creeps in 618 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:12,760 quietly, takes out his 22 caliber and fires it into the temple of the sleeping 64 year 619 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:18,320 old Vincent Cesara that had been asleep on the living room couch. 620 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:24,600 He then goes into the bathroom where he finds the terrified wife of Vincent, 44 years old 621 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,160 Maxine Cesara. 622 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:32,040 He begins to stab her several times above her vaginal region, rapes her, and then proceeds 623 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:38,680 to cut her eyes out of her head, and he takes them with him as leaving the same way he entered 624 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,080 through the bathroom window. 625 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,160 Oh my god. 626 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,280 I know, I know. 627 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,560 I'm really sorry about that, that was bad. 628 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:51,520 And so, like I mentioned, Ramirez was never too careful because he ransacked their home 629 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,120 and left behind evidence like crazy. 630 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,880 Outside of the window, he climbed through with a wet flower bed, and on the plastic paint 631 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:05,680 can he had stepped on to get in and out of the house, was a shoe print of 11 to 12 men's 632 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,680 shoe. 633 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,640 So the LAPD has some piling evidence. 634 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,960 They just need to catch this guy in some way. 635 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,120 Not long after, maybe a couple days later, police receive a call from two girls that 636 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:24,120 reported being followed by a strange man that happened to match the description of the 637 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:30,960 composite sketch as they depicted him as also being tall in a light-skinned Hispanic 638 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,960 male with dark curly hair. 639 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,320 And they also got a plate number. 640 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,480 Police checked out this tip, they tracked down the plate number, brought the guy in, 641 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,760 and even had Maria Jorinda's, one of the survivors we talked about, checked during a lineup to 642 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,600 see if this was her attacker. 643 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,560 But unfortunately, this was not their guy. 644 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,200 It was literally just some creep that was just trying to pickle him in up throughout 645 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,200 the city. 646 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:04,280 So May 14th, 1985, police find themselves at yet another unfortunate and gruesome crime 647 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,400 scene. 648 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,400 The victim had actually succeeded in calling the police prior to their death. 649 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,760 This was 66-year-old William Doy, who had been shot to death. 650 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,680 His wife, William Doy, was later found raped and beaten to an unrecognizable degree, while 651 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:27,240 the house had been ransacked and the walls had been painted with blood sputter. 652 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,520 This part is very graphic again. 653 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,040 Fair warning. 654 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,560 When they found Lillian, she had been noticeably restrained with metal thumb cuffs that were 655 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,480 on the ground. 656 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:45,240 During the attack, Lillian attempted to escape the thumb cuffs and pried her thumb so hard 657 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:47,840 that she ripped her thumbs off. 658 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:48,840 What? 659 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,840 Yeah. 660 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,520 Like, her thumbs were clean off when they found this at the scene. 661 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,520 Wow. 662 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:01,640 I cannot imagine if you look up a picture of what thumb cuffs look like, they're fucking 663 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,640 terrifying. 664 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,360 Like, they're really medieval-like looking and it's just cool. 665 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,160 So wait, why are they made? 666 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,160 I don't know. 667 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,440 Why are any, why are a lot of things made? 668 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,440 That's also so random. 669 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,440 Like, why thumb... 670 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,440 Why thumb cuffs? 671 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,440 Like, cool. 672 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,440 As a torture device. 673 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,440 Invented that. 674 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,440 Yeah. 675 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,440 Oh, that's a good question. 676 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,440 Yeah. 677 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,440 No, seriously. 678 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,440 Like, burrrr, what reason? 679 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,440 Yeah. 680 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,440 No, seriously. 681 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,440 Okay. 682 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,440 So, thumb cuffs. 683 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,440 Like, what a weird, uh, yeah, thumb. 684 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,880 Like, you guys can see it, but like, your thumbs, let me show you a picture. 685 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,560 I have to show you a picture of it. 686 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,440 They sell them on Amazon. 687 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,440 Why? 688 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:47,160 Why are they, why are they like that easily accessible? 689 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,160 They shouldn't be. 690 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,560 I think they're supposed to be as- 691 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,320 Is this like a sexual thing? 692 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,320 Like, what is this? 693 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,320 No, no, no, no, no. 694 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,320 I hope not. 695 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,520 What the fuck is it for? 696 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,800 Yeah, this is for bondage. 697 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,800 It looks like it. 698 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,800 Look at this picture. 699 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,800 Stop. 700 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,840 That is bondage for sure. 701 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:13,040 But why is it- It looks like it's half metric, half BDSM, half like, torture. 702 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,440 I don't know why the fuck people create thumb cuffs. 703 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,940 Why the thumbs? 704 00:38:17,940 --> 00:38:22,120 And to think like, her, you see the way that looks. 705 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,440 Like look it up everyone, like, thinking of prying your thumbs apart. 706 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,440 Like, ouch. 707 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,160 Oh no, like- To the point where she cut them off. 708 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,440 To where she, they came off. 709 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,440 That's crazy. 710 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,320 Oh my god. 711 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,880 And so at first, oh sorry, where was I shit? 712 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,880 Wow. 713 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,880 Okay, so during this time, there also been a string of child abductions where- I'm sorry, 714 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,880 let me get some water. 715 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,880 I forgot this in my family. 716 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,880 A little Chardonnay. 717 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,480 I need a drink of Chardonnay. 718 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,880 Oh, that's so good. 719 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,880 Glad you like it. 720 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,960 It's been sitting in my fridge for like a couple months. 721 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,960 It was worth it. 722 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,320 It's good as fuck, y'all. 723 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,320 I'm back. 724 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,320 Okay. 725 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,320 Woo! 726 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,040 Yeah, so yeah, thumb cuffs are not it guys. 727 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,480 Don't buy those, please. 728 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,080 Don't buy them for your significant other. 729 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,320 Don't buy them for friends. 730 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,320 Don't buy them. 731 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,320 Jeff Bezos, take it off of Amazon, please. 732 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,320 Yeah, what the? 733 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,760 Listen, news to me, I've never heard of that. 734 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,760 Never. 735 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,760 Well, pfft. 736 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,760 Haven't heard of it until I started researching this shit. 737 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,760 I'm like, that's a thing. 738 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:36,000 So also during this time, there had also been a string of child abductions where a predator 739 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,920 in Los Angeles, Metro Area, had been abducting children, both girls and boys. 740 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,600 This was Richard Ramirez and he had sexually assaulted these children and just released 741 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,600 them. 742 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,600 Oh my god. 743 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:50,600 Oh my god. 744 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,600 What kind of fucking monster? 745 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,600 Oh my god. 746 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,600 And you let life use kids go through that for the rest of their lives. 747 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,000 I was about to say at that point, like, dude, they want, oh god. 748 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,560 Like, I don't know what you're going to say. 749 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,040 Like, is it worth it? 750 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,600 Like, should we just kill them? 751 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,320 Yeah, like he had to go through the rest of your life having traumatizing effects. 752 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,320 A lot of these kids. 753 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,440 I thought you were literally sexually abused by a serial killer. 754 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,440 Yourself? 755 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,440 You would want to do that to other people? 756 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,940 That's crazy. 757 00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:21,480 And what's more terrifyingly, just a thought for me, and I didn't put these in my notes 758 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,360 or anything, but it's just the thought that a lot of these kids I read had to go through 759 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,320 a lot of therapy, obviously. 760 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,280 And a lot of them didn't turn out doing very well. 761 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,040 I think some of them actually ended up killing themselves later on in life. 762 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,040 And I think some of them just had a lot of mental instabilities. 763 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,920 You really fucked someone up. 764 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:47,520 But not only, like, obviously being sexually abused at all by anyone is already a crime. 765 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,520 Traumatizing. 766 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,160 It has to be traumatizing in itself, but being sexually abused by a known or soon to be known 767 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,880 serial killer, like, how would you live with that? 768 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,880 That's, yeah. 769 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,520 Yeah, it's truly... 770 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,520 No, for me. 771 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,520 Yeah. 772 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,440 But at first, the police had thought that these crimes were two different people, and 773 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,120 when I say crimes, I'm referring to William Doi and Lillian Doi and the kids that were 774 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,920 being sexually assaulted and talking about all of us. 775 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,880 They did not connect these together at first. 776 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,360 They always thought that these were just two different people, up until one of the scenes 777 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:32,080 where one of the children were brought to had had a shoe print of a men's shoe print 778 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,680 size 10 to 11. 779 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,040 That matched the same print from This Is Our Home. 780 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:44,000 So now, police are thinking, okay, we have a match, and we know whoever this guy is is 781 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,040 really going for anyone right now. 782 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,360 It doesn't matter who it is. 783 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:52,600 Boys, girls, like I said, husbands, wives, he's knocking anyone off. 784 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,880 This is killing the kill. 785 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,360 And he's just truly unhinged. 786 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,240 It's just causing chaos all over the Tri-State area. 787 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:05,520 So Detective Frank Solerno, who is also famously known for cracking the Hillside-Shingler case, 788 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:12,160 which we'll have to cover at some point in the future, and Detective of LAPD at the time, 789 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:19,240 Gil Corillo, begins to team up and put their heads together to start developing suspects 790 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:22,640 and a case against this molester and seo killer. 791 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:31,680 So meanwhile, as this case is being built, on June 28, 1985, in Arcadia, tragedy strikes. 792 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:39,640 32-year-old Patty Elaine Higgins had been found on her bathroom floor with her throat 793 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,280 slashed. 794 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:52,480 Then on July 2, 1985, only five days later, 75-year-old Mary Canan, like 795 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,840 Patty, had her throat horrifically slashed. 796 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:03,600 Three days after Mary and I said Canan Canan, three days after Mary Canan's murder, on 797 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:12,840 July 5, 1985, in Sierra Madre, a 16-year-old girl whose name remains very confidential, 798 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,280 had just gone to bed while her parents were away. 799 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:22,920 In disarray, she turns over to see a man standing directly above her bed and begins to beat 800 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,920 her with a tire iron. 801 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:31,040 He had climbed through the window and been good about not leaving behind any fingerprints 802 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,880 because he had used black grinning gloves. 803 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:39,360 He severely wounded and left her soaking in her own blood. 804 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:45,960 This victim did luckily survive, but to let it end, it's just horrific that this 805 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,360 16-year-old girl had gotten... 806 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,680 Imagine laying in your bed and I'm sorry to scare you guys like this, but it happens. 807 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,920 It really happened. 808 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,560 This girl was laying in her bed, asleep, binding her own business. 809 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,080 You look up and you see someone standing above you. 810 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,000 Try your best to get the fuck out of there, because Jesus Christ. 811 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,880 And with a fucking tire iron? 812 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,080 Like what? 813 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,240 What the fuck? 814 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,320 So it's just crazy to me. 815 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:20,720 So the typical spacing murder that he was, Ramirez had left behind a bloody footprint 816 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:25,840 on the gray comforter he stepped on while attacking this girl. 817 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,840 So this footprint was another match from the last two crime scenes. 818 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,120 And now please know that this is all the same guy at this point. 819 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,800 They're really just connecting them together. 820 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,480 At this point in my research, I kind of thought, okay, these various police forces all over 821 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:49,040 Southern California have to have some lead as to who this person is. 822 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,920 But they actually had no idea who this guy was, because he had this evidence, but you 823 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,920 don't know who the guy is. 824 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,680 You don't know what he looks like. 825 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,280 You can't connect it to anything. 826 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:08,760 So at this point, he got killed using knives, guns, manual and liquor, stringolation, and 827 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,280 blunt force trauma via tire iron. 828 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,400 So he has no defining patterns to his reign of terror. 829 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,880 So it just made the search just that much more difficult to figure out. 830 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,480 So not to mention, yes, he had found it easier to break into homes in the middle of the night. 831 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,480 And that was pretty common. 832 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,520 But at the same time, the children were disappearing left and right at any time of the day. 833 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,200 And the two girls in the condo were attacked in the middle of the day. 834 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,320 So no one is safe in Southern California right now. 835 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,000 And residents are just getting really on edge. 836 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,760 It's also the 80s in California. 837 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:51,120 So it's not uncommon to see it with your window open and even come home and leave your door 838 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,280 unlocked for maybe even a couple minutes. 839 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,320 So fortunately we know now. 840 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,320 Don't do that. 841 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:02,160 Don't leave your fucking door open because girl, people crazy out here, especially your 842 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,160 window. 843 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,560 I'm just saying, you never know. 844 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,720 Even if you live on the second story, do you have your window open? 845 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:07,720 You never know. 846 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:11,920 Even if I lived on the fifth floor, I would still leave my windows closed. 847 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,920 Yeah, yeah. 848 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,920 You never know though. 849 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,920 Even if you don't have one of those fire escapes, you don't know what people can do. 850 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:24,760 For some reason, I always think, I always picture for some reason, somehow they have 851 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,800 a rope ladder and they attach it to the high of the wall. 852 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:29,800 Yeah. 853 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,320 I don't even think that's possible. 854 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,880 But you never know. 855 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,880 Scary. 856 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,880 You never know. 857 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:35,880 You never know. 858 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,880 Scary. 859 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,880 You never know. 860 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,560 Who's to say, even if you daily leave your door unlocked, who's to say they won't? 861 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,560 I don't know. 862 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:42,560 Like, just don't. 863 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,960 I'm like, my windows are locked. 864 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,960 And I know, okay. 865 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,360 And I just remember quick sight story in college. 866 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,800 I feel like everyone off campus or on campus left their shit unlocked. 867 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,800 Oh my God. 868 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,800 I know. 869 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,560 Me and my roommate though, we were super good about locking your door. 870 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,560 Okay, good. 871 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,560 I tell no. 872 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,920 We were just talking about the Idaho murders. 873 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,040 Not to say they didn't lock their doors. 874 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,040 I don't know for sure. 875 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,280 But even then, it's like, even if they locked the door, they still were like, and you're 876 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,840 just letting the killer, if there is one, get in a lot easier. 877 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:21,400 Just because you might, let's say for instance, you live in a certain campus or something 878 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,640 and nothing has happened. 879 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,200 There's been no murders. 880 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,800 You don't know if people are capable of coming on campus. 881 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,800 Yeah. 882 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,760 I mean, just because you're like in a group of people your own age that you feel like 883 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,760 you can trust. 884 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,440 I mean, not only like murder, but also stealing and stealing. 885 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,440 But people are crazy. 886 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,200 In my dorm, I have my MacBook. 887 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,920 I have like all my nice stuff. 888 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,920 Like, hell no. 889 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,920 No, no. 890 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,920 I think I'll bitch unlocked. 891 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,920 Hell no. 892 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:46,920 Don't lock your doors. 893 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,920 Lock the doors. 894 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,920 Lock the windows. 895 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,920 Yes. 896 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,920 Don't go outside. 897 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,920 Keep your keys in fighting position. 898 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,920 Yes. 899 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,920 Lock and corner immediately. 900 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,120 Listen, my mama has me paranoid as hell. 901 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,120 Don't try me. 902 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,120 So try me. 903 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,120 Hey, motherfucking man. 904 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,120 Snaps. 905 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:12,120 If you're talking about something, I'm already on to you. 906 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,360 Seriously though, we're speaking facts because guys, like, I, there's so many young people 907 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,240 and I can't say it's everybody, but there are so many young people out there that think 908 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,120 that it's okay to leave their doors on. 909 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,360 I don't leave them on live to lock your doors. 910 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,560 You don't know. 911 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,200 Even if you live in one of the, it's always like those, those, um, it's always less stories 912 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,880 too that it's like, it was a quiet town. 913 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,040 Nothing ever happens. 914 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,560 And then boom, murder, murder. 915 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,560 Correct. 916 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,240 Like, guys, we don't want to be telling your story. 917 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:46,520 Just saying like, just lock your doors. 918 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,680 But any who, sorry, we got way off topic. 919 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,720 We're talking facts out like a door. 920 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:58,520 So like I said, um, sorry, where was I? 921 00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,520 Okay. 922 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:06,720 So July 6th, 1985, Lorraine Rodriguez had been sleeping when she hears a loud, cracking 923 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:08,800 noise coming from the other side of her home. 924 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,680 Assuming what was her husband, who had actually been a sheriff at the time, she had called 925 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,000 for him not to wake the children, but she received no answer in the house. 926 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,480 She calls for John again and this time he answers, but she can tell he had just woken 927 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,120 up from the couch where he had fallen asleep watching television shaken by her voice. 928 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,560 John says, that wasn't me making that noise. 929 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:39,720 So he grabs his rifle and heads into the bathroom to a window that had never been opened by 930 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:42,920 this family because it always had been painted shut. 931 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,360 Well, I feel like we've seen that before. 932 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,960 We've all seen like that one painted the landlord special, the landlord special. 933 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,680 Yes, literally that. 934 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,680 Yeah, it had been painted shut. 935 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,960 So it was not caught. 936 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,960 It was really out of the blue that this was just open like that. 937 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,760 It was just wide open. 938 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:08,440 Luckily, whoever the intruder was, cough cough or shirt Ramirez, he had been scared off when 939 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,600 they heard the homeowners locking up. 940 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:16,960 So to the advantage of the police, they caught another shoe print that had been matched with 941 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,960 the rest of the prints. 942 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,920 And that's another crime scene, so Richard Ramirez is a dumbass right now. 943 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,920 And he has always been. 944 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,760 I'm sorry, he has always been a dumbass and he's just collecting evidence for this police 945 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,920 to have a strong case against him when they do figure out who this guy is. 946 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:39,520 So there's that though this time when the police were able to lift the print, they got 947 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:46,400 a clear print of the match so clear that if they could tell that it was an 11 and a half 948 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:52,640 aerobics of via shoe that was very uncommon at the time because this specific shoe had 949 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,800 had been made or barely even manufactured in the United States. 950 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,400 LA County Sheriff Gary Burke is assigned to inspect everything you cut up out the shoe 951 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,680 prints and the shoe itself. 952 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,600 So he goes and reaches out to Jerry Settlefield, which is the creator of the via. 953 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,880 Settlefield provides a spreadsheet of the sales made in the U.S. that year and everything 954 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,640 that had just released miraculously. 955 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:25,320 They were able to track down the shoe print to the specific shoe type, which was an aerobic 956 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,320 440. 957 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,080 Sorry, I thought he could knocking. 958 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,200 I got so scared for a minute. 959 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,880 It's when outside miraculously, they were able to track down the shoe print to the specific 960 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:44,320 shoe type, which was an aerobic 440s men fitness black via shoe and only six of these shoes 961 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:50,400 in the size 11 and a half have been sold in the U.S. Five in Arizona and only one was 962 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,400 sold in Los Angeles. 963 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,840 Damn! 964 00:51:53,840 --> 00:52:00,560 So, unfortunately, this still makes things difficult because the buyer paid cash and 965 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,880 was unnamed. 966 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,600 And they hit another dead end. 967 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:13,520 They would have had them, but they didn't. 968 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,720 And that leads us to the end of part one. 969 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:20,600 But you guys know why? 970 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,920 Should we make them wait a little bit or should we just, you know, come out with the next 971 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:25,920 one? 972 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,920 Just give it to them. 973 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,080 I guess just give it to them. 974 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,080 Let's just give it to them. 975 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,080 You know why? 976 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,080 Let's just do it. 977 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,760 And let's switch it up a little bit. 978 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,880 Let's have Brie read part two. 979 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,880 Ah! 980 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,080 Because I'm falling asleep, people. 981 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,080 No, seriously, though. 982 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,080 That's not bedtime. 983 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,080 No, it's a late night. 984 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,080 Oh my God. 985 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,080 Oh my God. 986 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,080 It's actually that was bedtime. 987 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,080 I guess I'll let it out. 988 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,640 Yeah, it is past my bedtime. 989 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:54,360 This is a late night when the light goes out. 990 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,480 But you know what? 991 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,480 It's cool. 992 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,360 We have part two coming out for you guys. 993 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:13,320 Get next and we'll see you when the light goes out.