1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,080 I'm Kendall and I'm Bree and this is when the light goes out 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,800 Sweet today is a little weird. We are recording midday 3 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,240 So in a different room in a different room 4 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,920 This is our third time trying a different room because I don't know if you guys noticed last episode 5 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:41,360 I am so sorry about that, but the airhead kicked on and the living room that we were recording in last time 6 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,360 And it just sounded very 7 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,200 Like moaning 8 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Miss moans. Yeah, so sorry about that guys 9 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Hopefully it's way better now. You know, we're just critiquing as we go. So bear with us there. We're still learning 10 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,440 We're still learning. We're still we're still trying shit out. So what can you do? 11 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,160 But I hope you guys did enjoy that last episode 12 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,160 about the Cecil Hotel because it was a very very gruesome and 13 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,000 depressing one so 14 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,200 Hopefully yeah, hopefully y'all learned something about that it was kind of 15 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,520 a 16 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,600 on a whim because I had struggled so much with 17 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,560 Trying to like figure out how to carry on with this month's set of episodes 18 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:35,160 But we finally got through it and here we are. So it's cool. I'm so excited to be here now and 19 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,800 Like I said, it's weird because we're recording at like one o'clock in the afternoon on a Tuesday 20 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,600 So it's like a usual like our usual day, but was it it's kind of like 21 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:52,760 Stay light. That's about difference. It's nice though cuz I'm not like half asleep. Yeah, it is true. Yeah 22 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,760 I think we might start doing this more more 23 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,600 daytime 24 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,980 Recordings and such so yeah, hell yeah 25 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,720 well 26 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,520 With that I won't spend too much time I 27 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:10,440 Do have a flight later on to catch I'm going to New York later. So excited for that 28 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:17,000 I bought tickets to go see Harry Potter on Broadway 29 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,040 So excited for that. It's Harry Potter and the Chris Child and if you know me 30 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Well, you already know I love spooky shit, but I also love that wizard shit. So 31 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Yeah, so that should be really fun and I'll be doing a lot there 32 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:44,120 So if you want to follow my little ventures in New York, feel free to follow me on insta because that is where I am most so 33 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,600 That's where he lives. That's literally where I live 34 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Yeah, I spent all my time on there a lot of people spend the time on tiktok. I spend my time on 35 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,920 The Instagram so it's cool. It's alright. We're great 36 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,560 We're thriving 37 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:02,920 Super say that's what I 38 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:06,840 Work with like a lot of younger high schoolers, I guess and 39 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:14,160 Our new thing well my new thing cuz I'm like old is super slay super slay so slay and 40 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,720 Queen pussy slay 41 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:25,560 I'm gonna use that that's so funny. Shout out them. Shout out them. I know some of them actually listen to our show 42 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,800 Yeah, that's kind of you guys. Shout out you guys. Thanks for listening 43 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Well, they're like some are like high schoolers and some are my age or a little younger. Oh, okay. Yeah 44 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:43,320 Yeah, but it's like slay. It's funny how slays coming back because it's not like the 2012 like slay 45 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Slay it's like so slay. I guess like 46 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,580 Two different slays. It is two different slays. Oh my gosh. I love this. I'm learning so much right now 47 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Yeah, they keep me hip. You're making me old. I didn't know this was even a thing 48 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,800 Yeah, you know, it's weird. I feel like 49 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:10,280 The more I am around anyone younger than I am the more I learn about different verbiage that people use like slang and stuff 50 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,740 Yeah, I know I just learned what Riz is what the hell is Riz? It's like 51 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:23,840 Like game basically like oh game like talking like how good you are like talking and like getting bitches basically 52 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:25,800 Oh shit getting girls Riz 53 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,360 Is you don't got any Riz guys I swear to the day Riz 54 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Riz use it in a sentence. How do I use it in a sentence use it in a sentence today? Oh my gosh, y'all 55 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,920 I'm going to New York. That shit is gonna be so fun. I'm gonna get all the bitches 56 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,920 It's gonna be Riz better. He's right 57 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,200 No, it's like more like I 58 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,820 Have a lot of Riz or like I doesn't have any Riz like it's like 59 00:04:52,820 --> 00:05:00,700 Oh, oh, oh, okay, I see so like oh my gosh, Bri is looking so fucking hot today 60 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:06,100 But I have no Riz. Yeah, I have no Riz like I would never be able to get her 61 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:09,920 Oh, I love that. Yeah, like that type of thing Riz. Oh, I love that 62 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:15,260 I love that. Okay. I'm using that for now on yeah 63 00:05:15,260 --> 00:05:19,440 So you have like a lot of Riz cuz you're good at like getting dudes getting dudes 64 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:25,280 So you have a lot of Riz. I love that. Okay, but reason that for now on TM for trademarking that 65 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,160 And also just a side note, sorry, I don't want to go on attention 66 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,880 But I had to say this because I was angry about it already 67 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:43,100 I had told Bri before we started the show how I had lost my air pod at the coffee shop 68 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,800 several months ago and 69 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:51,640 I think this is like around the time we were just starting the show, but I had finally 70 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,200 like decided to get a new replacement for my left air pod and 71 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Did not realize that it's like a hundred dollars for a new one and I'm like, holy shit 72 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,760 I feel like I paid enough like at least a hundred something dollars just for like both pairs 73 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,760 I didn't know it was that much. That's just crazy to me 74 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,600 Is it like that or turned off like you can't track it? 75 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:19,240 Yeah, well, I try to track it and it's just like not in existence. It's just I don't know 76 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,120 Maybe someone threw it away recycled it. I don't know, but I'm like damn that. It's a really expensive air pod 77 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,120 I didn't know it costs it so much 78 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,920 But it's cool 79 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,480 Oh, I tried so I tried so many times 80 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,880 It's like my my not coffee shop 81 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,240 I go to is like my home and I won't share which one so I don't triangulate everything but 82 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,640 It's one of my favorite places to go to 83 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,360 Some of these listeners know I'm sure you do 84 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,520 I'm like sure some of those braces are listening 85 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:52,840 But it's cool like I knew pair of beads have phones so I can edit our show with so 86 00:06:53,760 --> 00:07:01,440 Hopefully our material just gets better and better with the more expensive equipment that we buy and we just get better. So sweet 87 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Yeah, how you oh, I didn't know it's here now. It's before did it did you just get those done? 88 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:13,080 No, they are so old. I actually was really about how I need to get them done. Yeah, look how grown out they are 89 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Oh, they're not that I've seen so much worse girl. Oh my god. They are literally so grown out. No, you're over here looking good 90 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,480 I got my hair done for I got 91 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:30,200 So I got them arches now um so funny story because 92 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,320 We I won't spend too much time so we can go into the story, but my um 93 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:41,600 I last person wasn't there yesterday. So I went on a Monday. I get my eyelashes done usually on the like a Saturday 94 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,960 Oh, thank you eyebrows. Sorry. I'm delusional. I didn't get much sleep last night 95 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,880 but I had went to the eyebrow place to get my eyebrows done and 96 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:59,840 The lady that usually does some wasn't there and I was really hurt because she does some perfectly every time like I don't like my eyebrows 97 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:05,240 Way too arched or anything. I just like them cleaned up with just a little a little slant a little feel 98 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:11,000 But this isn't this newer lady that I went to it's like oh, I got you and I'm like, okay 99 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,760 Like she usually just does it where it's like just like she cleans it up and it's just like a little 100 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:21,560 It's a little arch. No, this bitch went ham on my eyebrows. She was like right though. They do okay 101 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,560 I'm like I was like nervous at first cuz I'm like she showed me and I'm like wow those 102 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:32,040 These are these are different for me, but I like so maybe I'll go back to her if I get enough reviews 103 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,840 We'll see 104 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:43,800 Like obviously like men's eye or eyebrows aren't supposed to be arched super arched. Yeah, but it fits my face 105 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:50,200 Okay, okay, hopefully and then I also got my hair cut. Yeah, I got the matching piece 106 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,680 I got the fade. I got the fade. I got the two-piece set 107 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:55,680 I 108 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,280 Just get like a clean. Yeah, I get like a 109 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:06,880 Lineup, yeah, I do I did get a little fade just because my hair just grows rapidly within two weeks 110 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,040 But but enough hair talk for now. We can move on to 111 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,760 something that we have all been waiting for 112 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:21,280 This story of Elisa lamb and we have so ready. We have boo 113 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:28,600 I'm so ready boo is laying up under her. She's like I'm here too. I want to listen so we love the audience 114 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:35,300 I'm gonna give her commentary. Oh, yeah. Oh before we start to just so you guys know if you guys hear page flipping 115 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,680 That is me 116 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:44,480 Usually I would put all of my work onto our tablet, but unfortunately I did not have time to do that 117 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,320 So we are going verbatim based on my notes. I have written down so 118 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:56,040 Bear with me. I'm like always if you hear any other random noises. It's the cats. Oh, yeah. Yeah, bunny 119 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:02,200 Her other cat is going beneath the blind slot. So that happens windows to the window 120 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:04,680 To the wall to the wall 121 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:06,680 So such under my balls 122 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,800 Okay, our tensions today are crazy 123 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:24,320 Okay, we're focused. We're here. We're we're present. I'm gonna get serious time to get serious. It's story time everyone 124 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,800 so as 125 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:32,840 You guys might have noticed today's episode is named what happened to Elisa lamb 126 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,560 Now Elisa lamb is a very very very popular 127 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,920 story that I'm sure everyone has heard about and 128 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,840 I'm just really 129 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,880 Excited to do the story because I've honestly been wanting to do this since we started the show 130 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,880 I just didn't know how I want it to ice 131 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,720 Not I silly 132 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,920 execute this 133 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Story, so we're just gonna go through it get this story to her. It's like a real 134 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,400 Kind of like mystery. It is a mystery to crime. I think this is a familiar 135 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,040 Yeah, this is really one of the biggest I think to me at least one of the biggest 136 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,560 true crime stories 137 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:19,000 To date and at least the bigger true crime story is that a lot of people are a lot of podcasters at least tell so 138 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:23,560 This is our turn and this is our way of telling it so 139 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,280 Okay, well 140 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,480 Oh my god, I'm so glad we did sorry guys hold on that actually 141 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,680 Oh my god, she's just Christ. She jumped on the table. Oh 142 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,640 God, okay the price of having cats, okay? 143 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,240 so 144 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,760 They're lucky they're cute. I'll tell you that I'm gonna like 145 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,640 Okay, we're good. That was funny. Okay 146 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,200 Okay, Jesus Christ 147 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,040 so 148 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:01,200 Elisa lamb was born on April 30th 1991 in Vancouver British Columbia, Canada 149 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,880 She was the daughter of two immigrants from Hong Kong. Oh, not you two 150 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:12,860 Don't ever you would never she was trying to get on the table and try to wreck shit up to okay. We're good 151 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,560 Say swear 152 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:23,680 Seriously, though. Okay, they're gone for the moment. I'll be back. I am so sorry 153 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,440 We didn't even get through the first like sent it bullet 154 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,800 So like I said, Elisa Lam is the daughter of two immigrants from Hong Kong 155 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:39,440 She is the daughter of David Lam and I think it's Eena Lam from that was taken and 156 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:48,480 She also had a sister which I'm not sure if her sister was older or younger, but her sister 157 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,800 was oh 158 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,800 Duh, her sister's name is right here. Oh 159 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,680 Her sister's name was Sarah Lam. So she also had a sister and then she had lived with her parents 160 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:02,840 And growing up she was always known as being very bright 161 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,560 She was just a notable student too and she also went by Elisa Lam 162 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:10,080 but she had a 163 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,080 Actual name my actual can knees name which was Lam at whole ye 164 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,320 so 165 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:24,400 Elisa's parents were restaurant owners and Burr Burr Bear. I was at Burberry Burnaby British Columbia and while they were 166 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,080 working there, oh, I 167 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,080 Cannot speak 168 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,000 So why are they were working there? 169 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:39,000 At least I had also attended the University Hill secondary high school and then she eventually went off to University of British Columbia 170 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:47,640 Now what's interesting is that prior to her disappearance sources say that she was was not registered as a student 171 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,340 So I don't know what that means, but maybe she just 172 00:13:51,340 --> 00:13:57,500 D registered as a student and we'll later figure out, you know, she was having a lot of problems and stuff 173 00:13:57,500 --> 00:14:03,740 So maybe that was like a reason don't really know specifically why but you know, we can 174 00:14:04,140 --> 00:14:07,100 Put our all odds on what we can so 175 00:14:07,860 --> 00:14:12,300 So one thing about Elisa was that she was a huge blogger 176 00:14:13,540 --> 00:14:16,500 At first I know right at first 177 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:22,500 She started in high school or secondary school with a blog named ether fields on blog spot 178 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:30,100 Which side note blog spot has been around since I think the internet was the internet and you can still use it today 179 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:36,060 But I think if I'm not mistaken, it's called blogger now and many people still use it to this day 180 00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:40,860 It's more kind of now like a business type thing or like is usual at 181 00:14:41,660 --> 00:14:45,140 Educational uses kind of like WordPress. I'm sure we've all used that before 182 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:50,700 But any who this have been in around 2010 and two years later 183 00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:56,820 She maneuvered from blog spot to tumblr with a blog she names new Val new a newvo 184 00:14:58,060 --> 00:14:59,900 We love tumblr 185 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:02,420 so these blocks were often her like 186 00:15:02,820 --> 00:15:10,420 Digital getaway if you will and she just post about you know fashion famous quotes and just her day-to-day life 187 00:15:10,420 --> 00:15:17,200 Quite honestly, but who hasn't done this all throughout college. I ran a travel event fashion blog actually caught the Kindle Chronicle 188 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:22,100 Do you remember that? Yeah, I even remember branch a oh branch a I had yeah, so I had a 189 00:15:22,820 --> 00:15:28,580 Sight note again. I had a website in high school called branch a where I sold like clothes 190 00:15:28,740 --> 00:15:31,380 And I actually did it really well. I saw a lot of clothes and stuff 191 00:15:33,020 --> 00:15:36,380 Do you maybe I'll start it up again one day never know 192 00:15:36,380 --> 00:15:44,140 But yeah, so that was I mean something that I feel like we can all just kind of site with and so now this was often her hobby 193 00:15:44,140 --> 00:15:46,140 But not only what she post off 194 00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:53,020 Post I mentioned, but also a lot regarding to her mental health and mental illness. I 195 00:15:53,940 --> 00:15:59,900 Didn't want to retell the whole background of the season hotel by the way, but if you are curious 196 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:06,420 It's all in the episode 14. So go back. You don't have to listen to last week's episode to understand this episode 197 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:09,820 But it is really good to just 198 00:16:10,580 --> 00:16:16,620 Follow our little deep dive on that one. So you should probably just take a gander listen to it. It's good 199 00:16:16,620 --> 00:16:21,380 I promise but in case y'all really need just a quick review of the Cecil Hotel 200 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:23,860 And I just want to tell this now before we go any further 201 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:30,340 It was built in the early 1900s right around the time the Great Depression hit. I think that's right 202 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:35,020 The early 1900s. Yeah, yeah 203 00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:37,220 Okay, yeah 204 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:44,940 And then the hotel that sits overseeing skit row over time develop an array of fatal fatal tragedies throughout its time 205 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:48,860 Living up to the infamous story of today's case Lisa Lam 206 00:16:49,460 --> 00:16:51,460 I 207 00:16:51,460 --> 00:16:57,540 I still am sitting with that story from last week about the baby that was thrown out of the building because that 208 00:16:57,820 --> 00:17:02,300 Just doesn't sit right with me. But I know one where she fell and hit it by 209 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:04,300 Yeah, yeah, there was the one 210 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:10,620 Little case that we talked about. Yeah, you gotta listen. Go listen. It's crazy. It's truly crazy 211 00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:17,700 Anywho in 2013 a Lisa had been experiencing a ton of withdrawals 212 00:17:17,700 --> 00:17:23,900 Which she which I'm sorry, we will get into a little later, but she really thought it was time to take a break from school 213 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:31,380 So she decided to do some traveling to help ease a lot of that pressure and she had been that she had been just a countering at home 214 00:17:32,220 --> 00:17:35,060 So she had came down to the United States for vacation 215 00:17:35,740 --> 00:17:41,220 One of the main states that she really wanted to try out or just had her eye on was California 216 00:17:41,220 --> 00:17:47,460 So she bought an Amtrak bus ticket instead out to San Diego on June 217 00:17:47,860 --> 00:17:54,980 Sorry, January 22nd and she really loved just the city itself. It takes she took a lot of pictures 218 00:17:55,700 --> 00:18:02,660 She later post on her blog of her visiting restaurants and the state San Diego zoo. Can I help you little bun? 219 00:18:02,660 --> 00:18:05,060 I mean, oh, you're not bun. I'm sorry. You're boo 220 00:18:05,060 --> 00:18:09,460 Okay, be quiet, okay 221 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:14,340 So she actually called this trip which I thought was really cute 222 00:18:14,340 --> 00:18:18,500 She called this trip on her blog the West Coast tour, which I think is just so cute 223 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:23,860 I didn't think that we have so much so much in common because I think I would do something just like this 224 00:18:23,860 --> 00:18:29,220 We're I would definitely do something like this call it the West Coast tour. Oh my gosh. I love it 225 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:33,140 The West Coast can doll I love it 226 00:18:33,140 --> 00:18:37,620 But it's not about me. It's about Elisa. So I definitely 227 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:41,860 Would say I would do something like this at 21. Hell, I would do it now. So whatever 228 00:18:42,420 --> 00:18:49,860 But now keep in mind she told her parents she would you know, make the trip alone and she wanted to do this for herself 229 00:18:50,340 --> 00:18:53,860 Which I can't blame her but y'all if you do go on trips alone 230 00:18:54,180 --> 00:18:59,140 I'll just keep at least one or two people you trust on your radar at all times because 231 00:18:59,140 --> 00:19:03,220 Things happen not saying that she didn't but it's a dangerous word out there 232 00:19:04,820 --> 00:19:05,220 True true true 233 00:19:05,220 --> 00:19:07,380 Take the cautions precautions at least 234 00:19:08,180 --> 00:19:13,620 So she did tell her parents she'd be safe and she followed up with them and that's exactly what she did 235 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:20,500 It's clear that beyond her just known personal struggle struggles her parents trusted her pretty well 236 00:19:21,940 --> 00:19:27,140 So after leaving San Diego, she planned on moving to San Francisco and then Santa Cruz 237 00:19:27,140 --> 00:19:29,140 And she made all this known to her 238 00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:31,940 family but also to her blogging 239 00:19:32,820 --> 00:19:33,540 now 240 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:37,060 That's my one problem with this because 241 00:19:37,940 --> 00:19:44,340 It's great that you can you know, show friends how you might travel or things like that 242 00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:50,500 But do not post what you're going or your schedule on the internet. It is so dangerous 243 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:55,060 And if I'm not mistaken if I mean, I know a lot of people use Instagram 244 00:19:55,060 --> 00:20:00,980 But um, I think they're everyone's been talking about how Instagram does that thing now where if you post something 245 00:20:00,980 --> 00:20:04,820 You can see your location unless you turn off the filter or like the function 246 00:20:06,580 --> 00:20:11,860 Um, I know you I know there is an option, but I didn't know that it was just automatic. Yeah, it's automatic 247 00:20:11,860 --> 00:20:18,180 So in order to just assign in order to turn that off. I think what you can do. I'm not sure specifically 248 00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:22,340 for all phones, I'm pretty sure it's pretty similar but um 249 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:27,540 When you have the app like Instagram or Facebook, you can go to your settings 250 00:20:27,940 --> 00:20:33,780 And then when you go to the specific app, um, you can see that the location it says while using 251 00:20:34,020 --> 00:20:38,980 Usually people have while using on I would turn that off completely if you really want, you know 252 00:20:39,220 --> 00:20:44,420 To post something or show people where you are. I suggest and this is just personally in my opinion 253 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:49,940 You should post it after you leave that place because I agree. Yeah, like you never know 254 00:20:49,940 --> 00:20:53,540 who and what and I or you know, you never know who is watching 255 00:20:53,540 --> 00:20:58,340 After this is over, you're gonna have to show me that. Yeah, I have to show you that. Yeah, it's yeah 256 00:20:58,340 --> 00:21:01,220 It's kind of it creates me out just alone 257 00:21:01,220 --> 00:21:04,980 So I can only imagine how many females or girls out there are like 258 00:21:05,540 --> 00:21:11,620 posting this kind of stuff and you never know and now one thing I'll also say off topic is that not off topic 259 00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:14,500 But off my notes is that um, Alisa 260 00:21:16,420 --> 00:21:18,420 Alisa's still not on the phone 261 00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:22,180 Alisa's story is still pretty much unsolved 262 00:21:22,820 --> 00:21:26,260 So I don't know what happens. I don't know what happened to her 263 00:21:26,420 --> 00:21:31,540 We're gonna give our theories and we're gonna give our conspiracies help the end but um as far as I know 264 00:21:32,820 --> 00:21:40,260 We don't know like I have no idea. I have tried to like figure out. I think a lot of people have don't know at all. So 265 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:47,300 So on January 26 2013, Alisa arrived in Los Angeles, California 266 00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:51,940 She actually attended a live taping and I didn't know this before she tap 267 00:21:51,940 --> 00:21:56,500 Uh, she actually attended a live taping of the talk show Conan O'Brien 268 00:21:57,300 --> 00:22:01,780 But oddly didn't get to sit in for the entire show and have been 269 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,340 Excorted off of the lot because of her alleged disruptive behavior 270 00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:11,140 I checked everywhere for more information on this and I got nothing 271 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:18,100 But that is just sort of the average answer that I got. So I thought that was kind of interesting. She had also 272 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:25,300 That day checked in to the infamous hotel at 640 south main street. We know to be 273 00:22:26,340 --> 00:22:28,340 The Cecil Hotel 274 00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:31,060 Bum bum bum 275 00:22:33,780 --> 00:22:35,780 I might put that in there this time again 276 00:22:35,780 --> 00:22:37,780 So 277 00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:46,820 Alisa had been assigned a hostile style room, which is generally a shared room with 278 00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:49,380 bunk beds and 279 00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:52,180 This had kind of been on the fifth floor if I'm not mistaken 280 00:22:52,820 --> 00:22:56,180 She did have the money for an individual hotel room 281 00:22:56,180 --> 00:23:01,780 But I think she was just trying to be very cost efficient for her trip. So she couldn't cut herself short and 282 00:23:02,660 --> 00:23:04,660 Spend so much like cash 283 00:23:04,660 --> 00:23:11,620 Though not even long after settling in her roommates that she had called in complaints towards Alisa 284 00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:18,660 They'd explained that Alisa would leave cryptic notes to them saying things like leave or go away 285 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:24,500 Or she also locked the door behind the girls and then she would refuse to let them in without a password 286 00:23:25,140 --> 00:23:28,900 Which let's keep in mind. She's 21. I don't know 287 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:32,820 About 288 00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:38,100 Those specific actions and how that kind of to me it kind of just reflects a lot of 289 00:23:38,740 --> 00:23:40,740 Childish behavior 290 00:23:41,140 --> 00:23:46,260 So it's just kind of weird that that goes the way it did now all around giving up behavior 291 00:23:47,140 --> 00:23:53,300 Was understandably spooky for the girls and only two days later the hotel management had 292 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:58,500 Relocated sorry Alisa to her own private room 293 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:03,380 And I'll also just to clarify this is all according to the hotel staff 294 00:24:03,380 --> 00:24:09,320 I never found solid evidence that this was coming from the roommates themselves. So we're just seeking this from the hotel 295 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:13,380 But nonetheless Alisa kept herself thereafter 296 00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:18,580 Just continued living her best life trip doing trips after trip 297 00:24:18,980 --> 00:24:25,380 To different areas. She still was at the sea so but she was just kind of like going to different places like speakeasies 298 00:24:25,380 --> 00:24:28,740 And different shops and things like that just to check out 299 00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:33,780 On January 31st five days after checking in 300 00:24:34,420 --> 00:24:38,820 Alisa had been scheduled to check out but as far as the front desk knew 301 00:24:39,380 --> 00:24:42,900 This guest never checked out or had been seen around the hotel 302 00:24:43,940 --> 00:24:49,860 She just seemingly vanished without any trace literally not only did the hotel never 303 00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:54,420 Have alisa check out but she never contacted her parents that day 304 00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:59,940 And like I said, Alisa was very good about making sure she spoke to her parents every day 305 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:06,820 She had been on that trip and she made sure that you know, her parents were at ease about where she was 306 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:10,660 So that very moment they didn't get that text that day 307 00:25:11,380 --> 00:25:14,900 Or that call they knew something was right was not right about this 308 00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:19,940 Her parents immediately contacted the LAPD and forming them about Alisa 309 00:25:19,940 --> 00:25:26,260 They're just frantically on the phone explaining our daughter is 21 years old from briskolombia 310 00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:31,700 She had never been to america alone before she was supposed to you know call us 311 00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:38,340 We never heard from her. She was supposed to have from los angeles to santa cruz and we are worried that something may be wrong 312 00:25:39,460 --> 00:25:46,180 Just as quick as they called her family had already been looking to book flights to come to search for her alongside the LAPD 313 00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:49,380 So they already had it to california at this point 314 00:25:50,580 --> 00:25:57,700 Prior to her family's arrival cops did attempt to search the hotel, but couldn't make a full sweep without legal permits 315 00:25:58,340 --> 00:25:59,860 so 316 00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:05,780 That's kind of annoying because you're trying to find someone who's missing and the hotel is not letting you do that but okay 317 00:26:06,580 --> 00:26:12,020 And they're just kind of confined from searching the areas of the hotel like the lobby hallways 318 00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:15,940 The meeting halls things like that. So they had no luck to that 319 00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:22,340 Now, I don't know if you all remember, but the ceso hotel has 700 rooms 320 00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:25,060 so 321 00:26:26,020 --> 00:26:30,820 Even if they really wanted to check every single room that's a lot of rooms to just you know 322 00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:35,700 Grow on and check and make sure that you know, this one person is safe and 323 00:26:36,420 --> 00:26:38,420 Not in harm's way 324 00:26:38,420 --> 00:26:44,980 So the cops even brought police dogs to check the exterior of the building including the roof to see if they find anything 325 00:26:45,380 --> 00:26:52,740 And they found nothing which considering how she was found is kind of bone-chilling that she didn't they didn't see anything at that time 326 00:26:53,540 --> 00:26:55,540 But we'll get to that in a minute 327 00:26:55,540 --> 00:27:01,060 Now I did watch a witness interview online given by a woman by the name of katie orphan 328 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:06,340 at the time katie had been working at a bookstore called the last bookstore which is kind of 329 00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:08,180 ironic 330 00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:10,180 Right next door to the ceso hotel 331 00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:14,820 And katie had claimed that she had actually seen a lisa the day that she went missing 332 00:27:15,380 --> 00:27:20,100 katie described to remembering a lisa coming into the store and being very overly 333 00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:24,900 Outgoing sort of as if she was getting overly excited to be there 334 00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:33,300 She says that she just aggressively just want answers and questions about the books and things around the store 335 00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:40,500 She even referenced friends and families back home assuming that she'd be taking some of those souvenirs back home to give to her 336 00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:42,660 her family as presents 337 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:45,300 So back over at the ceso 338 00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:48,740 Police were not able to search every room in the hotel 339 00:27:48,740 --> 00:27:52,340 But they were able to check the hotel room that she had been staying in 340 00:27:53,060 --> 00:27:55,060 And everything was left in her room 341 00:27:56,180 --> 00:28:01,780 They found a passport a wallet and her clothes. Now what they didn't find was her phone 342 00:28:01,780 --> 00:28:03,780 Almost as if 343 00:28:04,580 --> 00:28:09,140 Intended she was going to come back, but there was no sounds of foul play as they say so 344 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:14,500 So there is no foul play nor first entry nothing taken from the room 345 00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:20,580 Now the room wasn't necessarily found in a clean and orderly fashion, but it wasn't ransacked either 346 00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:22,980 So this kind of stumped investigators 347 00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:29,540 Oftentimes if it was kind of a burglary it would show signs of you know, first entry things like that 348 00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:35,460 And not even the search that the canons could do found a scent based on her clothes 349 00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:40,500 But the investigators did find one piece of evidence and this piece of evidence 350 00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:45,220 Still gives me anxiety to watch today after seeing it at least eight times 351 00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:48,740 And what i'm referring to is the elevator footage 352 00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:50,580 now 353 00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:57,300 I'll try my best to describe the video in detail, but it's easy to it's easier at least to just google 354 00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:59,540 Elisa lamb elevator video footage 355 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,380 um 356 00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:04,420 I watched this last night as I was researching and 357 00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:09,620 I had to turn on something a little more lighthearted. I think what did I turn on I turned on? 358 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:15,860 What the fuck did I turn on oh I turned on home alone too 359 00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:20,820 I couldn't I couldn't it gives me it gives me chills 360 00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:24,100 So on the phone elevator footage the cctv footage 361 00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:30,740 Elisa is wearing a red jacket with those Palazzo capri licking pants. Did you ever have any of those? 362 00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:33,620 When I was in like elementary school 363 00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:35,860 Yes 364 00:29:35,860 --> 00:29:38,660 I think this is an entry school thing third grade I feel like 365 00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:45,140 They always drove me crazy seeing people walk around in them, but that's beside the point. I'm off the cuteness. That's for sure 366 00:29:46,580 --> 00:29:50,500 So she's wearing this and she walks into the elevator pretty calm 367 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:54,020 She bends over to press the elevator button 368 00:29:54,820 --> 00:29:56,820 She stands back 369 00:29:56,900 --> 00:30:01,300 Like kind of backside of the elevator where she stands still for a good like four seconds 370 00:30:01,940 --> 00:30:03,940 The door does not close 371 00:30:03,940 --> 00:30:10,900 She quickly kind of peers out in the elevator and kind of looks both ways and then sticks her head back in the elevator 372 00:30:11,780 --> 00:30:16,980 She then kind of pivots her body to one side of the elevator as if she's hiding from something 373 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:21,140 Then she moves closer to the elevator panel and hides in the corner 374 00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:24,980 Then after she stands there for a good like minute or so 375 00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:27,700 She then peeks her head back out of the elevator 376 00:30:28,260 --> 00:30:32,580 Then gets out of the elevator shuffles herself around in this weird like 377 00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:35,700 manic like 378 00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:38,260 Robotic 379 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:40,420 Kind of acts or something 380 00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:42,500 Then she moves to the side 381 00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:48,980 Still outside of the elevator kind of where the camera can't see it and then she raises like her arm 382 00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:54,100 It looks like and kind of like folds her arm over her as if she's kind of stressed or something 383 00:30:55,140 --> 00:31:01,620 And then gets back into the elevator. She starts pressing every button on the elevator panel 384 00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:09,220 Then she gets back off starts moving her hands and gestures that truly creeps me the fuck out 385 00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:11,220 And 386 00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:16,420 It's like as if she's like talking to somebody. I don't know. It's weird because if you're looking at the video 387 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,500 Do you remember the video specifically? 388 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:24,020 Yeah, I do it's very um like she seems kind of like 389 00:31:26,180 --> 00:31:31,220 Frantic yeah, like she's frantic very it's very um 390 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,540 Just spooky I guess yeah actions are very 391 00:31:35,540 --> 00:31:39,780 I don't want to say like robotic but definitely very like 392 00:31:41,940 --> 00:31:45,300 Like not normal. Yeah, not normal. It's not it's not like 393 00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:51,620 And like okay, there's conspiracies after like I said, we'll cover and we'll talk about that elevator 394 00:31:52,580 --> 00:31:54,580 thing in a minute, but um 395 00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:56,980 What really like is just 396 00:31:56,980 --> 00:32:01,540 Eerie to me is that she is she looks super like she looks often like 397 00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:05,780 Generally scared like she looks like someone is like following her or something 398 00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:08,420 But like what's creepy to me is that like 399 00:32:09,940 --> 00:32:16,100 There's no one there on the the camera footage. Yeah, at least there's nobody we can really see no one we can see 400 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:19,140 Yeah, I can't remember correct me if I'm wrong 401 00:32:19,540 --> 00:32:23,140 Probably not you because I don't know if you'll know what I'm talking about but the people listening 402 00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:26,980 I feel like I recently saw something maybe I'm making this up though 403 00:32:26,980 --> 00:32:31,860 So where someone like noticed that you do see like a hand or like a 404 00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:36,020 Like for like a split second 405 00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:38,900 Yeah, maybe you can look that up. Yeah, let's look at um 406 00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:40,740 I might be making that up though 407 00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:45,540 But I feel like no you might be right because you know what I also heard and I didn't put this on my notes either 408 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:53,140 Is that people assume that there's footage missing of it? Yeah, I did also hear that too where you can like tell that it's been cut 409 00:32:53,140 --> 00:33:01,540 That's so fucking creepy and we're gonna of course talk about that, but let's see. Hold on guys. Look this up. I'm looking it up 410 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:05,940 Alisa 411 00:33:06,260 --> 00:33:08,260 Okay 412 00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:11,300 Oh, they have this boy in 4k. Okay. Let's see 413 00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:15,940 Okay, yeah, so she's getting on the elevator 414 00:33:15,940 --> 00:33:21,460 So she's like bent over like I said 415 00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:26,900 Yep, so she pushes the button she stands in the corner 416 00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:30,340 And it's like she's just standing there for a bit like 417 00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:37,860 Five minutes. Okay. So like she's going towards the elevator door. She like quickly looks both ways puts her head back in 418 00:33:40,260 --> 00:33:42,260 Stands to the side again 419 00:33:42,260 --> 00:33:49,780 Shuffles to the corner and then she's just standing there as if like something's 420 00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:53,380 Watching her and then she's peeking her head out again 421 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:57,460 And I think this is when I think she's 422 00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:04,660 Maybe that's the part it kind of looks like there's something over there kind of like in the corner 423 00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:07,540 Yeah 424 00:34:07,540 --> 00:34:12,900 Well, yeah, she's moving like weird shuffle motion and she's getting back on the elevator. She goes back out 425 00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:19,380 She gets she goes outside of the camera's view as if she kind of knows the cameras there or something 426 00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:27,060 And now this is the part where people think she might like it skipped 427 00:34:27,940 --> 00:34:31,700 Because you can't see her on the film, but it's almost like she lags right here 428 00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:36,500 But it's hard to tell 429 00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:38,820 And it's just 430 00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:42,100 Yeah, she's just standing there like I don't even know what's going on 431 00:34:42,180 --> 00:34:45,220 And yeah, so like she's getting back on the elevator like she's stressed out 432 00:34:45,940 --> 00:34:48,500 She pushes off the buttons on the panel 433 00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:51,700 And you know what's creepy? 434 00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:53,700 The elevator is not shut 435 00:34:53,860 --> 00:34:55,860 The elevator door never closes 436 00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:00,260 Like that alone just gives me goosebumps because I'm like 437 00:35:00,260 --> 00:35:06,260 Like right away you would think that the elevator would do something like make some kind of like adjustment or whatever 438 00:35:06,420 --> 00:35:07,700 It doesn't even touch 439 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:09,700 She goes back outside the elevator 440 00:35:09,860 --> 00:35:15,380 And then this is when she like it's like talking to somebody like she's like she's like making like hand motions 441 00:35:15,460 --> 00:35:17,460 And you can hopefully see her mouth moving 442 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:22,660 Yeah, we don't see her mouth moving either though. No, but you do. Oh you do. Oh wait, let me see 443 00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:24,820 Go back 444 00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:27,540 Oh, she is she's like it's like she's telling someone like 445 00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:29,540 Like do this do that 446 00:35:31,940 --> 00:35:34,980 Okay, so okay, that's happening and then 447 00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:42,180 Yeah, and then she just walks off yikes 448 00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:46,660 Oh my gosh, okay, yeah 449 00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:53,940 So that all happens within like two minutes and 30 seconds 450 00:35:53,940 --> 00:35:57,220 So that's like a two minute 30 second long video of her doing that 451 00:35:57,940 --> 00:36:00,260 but the thing is like I said people 452 00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:05,940 Have speculation that someone or somebody 453 00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:11,220 May have tampered with the evidence of the cctv footage 454 00:36:11,860 --> 00:36:13,860 So it's hard to know. I can't tell 455 00:36:14,580 --> 00:36:19,220 If you guys have any like thoughts or anything like let us know because I want to know 456 00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:24,420 I want I want to know what happened here because I can't I can't figure it out 457 00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:32,100 I'm trying to look it up. Maybe I'm just making it up, but I can't know 458 00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:39,860 I did try to look it up 459 00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:46,100 The hand motions. I think you're right. I think you're honestly onto something there because uh, I feel like I've hurt something 460 00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:48,180 Somewhere about that, but I'm not sure 461 00:36:48,180 --> 00:36:48,740 I remember 462 00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:54,580 But it's just so annoying because at this point everything's become a conspiracy around like this entire like 463 00:36:55,780 --> 00:37:02,980 Um this entire case, so it's hard to know but I I do think I personally. Oh, well, we'll get to that in a minute 464 00:37:03,940 --> 00:37:05,940 A surge just blew. Oh my god 465 00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:12,500 Did you hear that explosion? Yeah, something just exploded. Oh my god. Our power just went out. Oh my god 466 00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:16,500 I'm so creeped out now. We're talking about this and our power just went out 467 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:19,140 I'm so fucked up. But I mean we're still recording but 468 00:37:20,420 --> 00:37:22,660 Oh my god, is everything okay out there? 469 00:37:25,060 --> 00:37:28,820 Yeah, I don't know where the thing would be like what way the 470 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:31,380 Jace is crossed 471 00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:35,300 Don't you just love and you're talking about spooky shit and your power just goes out 472 00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:46,580 Okay, we're we're back. We still haven't we have no 473 00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:51,060 We have no um such 474 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:58,260 We have no power power. I don't know what happened there. Um, apparently a transformer blue. Yeah, you could hear it from here 475 00:37:58,660 --> 00:38:02,740 Yeah, it was loud as hell. Yeah, it was very loud. Oh my god. That was scary 476 00:38:02,740 --> 00:38:07,300 Um, how funny that it's like now and I'm like why now? 477 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:15,220 It's cool. So we'll just continue the dark. It's all right. It's not like we don't do it already. Yeah, right 478 00:38:16,180 --> 00:38:18,900 Sorry, I got about that. Okay. So where we left off 479 00:38:20,740 --> 00:38:22,740 When the light went out 480 00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:27,620 That was that was that was a good one. You had to admit that was a really good one 481 00:38:28,660 --> 00:38:30,660 The light literally goes out 482 00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:39,060 Um, so where we left off we're talking about the um elevator and all and we were really looking into that in everything 483 00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:45,540 No matter how incriminating that video is unfortunately police had never figured out 484 00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:48,900 Anything from that like nothing came up it 485 00:38:48,980 --> 00:38:51,860 So we'll talk a little more about the conspiracies in a moment 486 00:38:52,260 --> 00:38:55,300 So the morning of february 19th 2013 487 00:38:55,300 --> 00:39:00,260 Approximately three weeks after Alisa Lam had gone missing 488 00:39:01,220 --> 00:39:08,260 Guests at the Cecil hotel began sending a complaint after complaint about how low the water pressure is in the building 489 00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:14,420 Many claim that the water had a weird taste to it and just didn't taste right 490 00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:19,460 Others claimed that the water levels were just barely capable to bat bat even 491 00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:24,660 And some referenced the room's water to be pitch black 492 00:39:26,260 --> 00:39:32,180 So the concierge dials up the hotel maintenance worker santiago lopez 493 00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:37,540 The only thing that he can think of to do is check the water tanks on the roof 494 00:39:38,740 --> 00:39:43,220 But in order to do so he must first go into the highest level of the building 495 00:39:43,220 --> 00:39:50,100 Design the alarm system scale the side of the fire escape to the roof of the building 496 00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:56,500 Where he then climbed up more stairs to a 1000 gallon water tank 497 00:39:56,980 --> 00:40:00,500 Which is sorry there are one out of four by the way on top of this building 498 00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:06,020 Then open a heavy 20 pound latch to reveal the problem 499 00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:07,860 And he did just that 500 00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:13,620 But when he did do this he involved something very truly terrifying 501 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:18,980 What he saw in a deep dark water tank was 502 00:40:20,020 --> 00:40:23,380 The decomposed and bloated body of Alisa Lam 503 00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:27,460 Truly tragic so sad. I know 504 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:35,460 No, she was found naked with her clothes floating right beside her faced up with her watch and room key 505 00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:41,060 Now her body was found covered in this weird sandy unidentified texture 506 00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:43,460 Which I still don't understand what that was 507 00:40:44,740 --> 00:40:48,900 And so the question is how the hell did this one 508 00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:54,180 Small girl get to this roof and inside this closed water tank 509 00:40:54,740 --> 00:41:01,860 Heavy heavy water tank and by the way it was based on the judge later on that had claimed that the 510 00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:05,300 Um lever to open the water tank was 20 pounds 511 00:41:05,860 --> 00:41:11,940 Again, if you've seen pictures of Alisa Lam, she's a small girl. So to think about how she can 512 00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:15,060 herself 513 00:41:15,620 --> 00:41:23,060 Unarm a whole alarm system that would the moment you open the alarm system would identify it would notify the downstairs 514 00:41:24,340 --> 00:41:26,900 Conceers and then it would just make an alarm sound 515 00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:32,900 So that would happen and then she would have to find climb that fire escape up to the very top 516 00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:34,900 Which would 517 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:41,060 Already be noticed by somebody in my opinion if you see someone climbing a fire escape to the very top of the building 518 00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:43,220 But maybe even if not 519 00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:45,300 How does she un-latch this heavy ass? 520 00:41:45,940 --> 00:41:48,260 Like latch it's just it's weird to me. So 521 00:41:48,260 --> 00:41:55,620 Alisa staff was ruled accidental with by bipolar disorder being the attributing factor 522 00:41:56,260 --> 00:42:04,180 So what I did not really share in the beginning is that Alisa was diagnosed with bipolar disorder prior to her west coast trip 523 00:42:04,660 --> 00:42:08,740 And her and her family were sort of learning how to deal with this at the time 524 00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:14,980 I didn't want to say this at the beginning. I feel like a lot of people do when they cover this story, but um, I feel like 525 00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:18,740 I feel like when we're telling a story, I don't want someone's 526 00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:24,180 Health to be a reason as to why something happens. I want you to just understand 527 00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:27,540 What happened as is so that was just the reason for that 528 00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:32,820 But according to sources, they are claiming that she had some sort of psychosis 529 00:42:33,380 --> 00:42:40,260 She had um had a mental break and somehow ended up getting into the water tower. Now that was according to sources 530 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:46,260 It's possible, but certain people experiencing bipolar disorder may have hallucinations 531 00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:50,900 Which after watching the elevator video footage, it's possible 532 00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:55,780 But it's still a theory and I guess it's a theory that we can't ignore 533 00:42:56,260 --> 00:43:00,980 So a full autopsy wasn't done actually because of how badly decomposed she was 534 00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:04,260 Which I think we should keep in mind considering 535 00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:08,020 What they do role her it's deaf being but 536 00:43:08,020 --> 00:43:12,900 Taking as you will the reports did show that she died sometime around midnight 537 00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:20,100 Some sources also say that she may have not have taken her 538 00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:23,780 Entity to presence correctly. She was on entity present pills 539 00:43:24,340 --> 00:43:27,300 And the autopsy showed as she was supposed to take two 540 00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:33,380 She only taken one from what they found in her system. The other pill is a anti-psychotic 541 00:43:33,380 --> 00:43:39,940 So according to WebMD, not taking one pill but taking the other can be very dangerous and call hallucinations 542 00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:47,300 So it's again, it's possible. It's a thought maybe that's something that did happen 543 00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:56,100 Seemed that there were no signs of foul play which is absurd considering she had been marinating in water for three weeks 544 00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:57,700 She 545 00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:02,740 If maybe she was raped or she was put into the water tank, we wouldn't know 546 00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:07,620 Because the DNA would have been washed away way long ago 547 00:44:08,580 --> 00:44:15,300 And think about it like like I said these people of the seesaw that were staying at the seesaw were drinking this water 548 00:44:16,580 --> 00:44:23,140 I heard people were also calling that only because the water pressure was bad but because the water was also gray 549 00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:29,700 Yes, yeah, I don't think you mentioned that but I briefly mentioned that was black, but oh, yeah, okay 550 00:44:29,860 --> 00:44:34,580 It was um and it like tasted weird to yeah drawing a lot of attention 551 00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:39,300 Yeah, it was uh weird because I had also read that there was a coffee shop 552 00:44:39,860 --> 00:44:46,260 Um within the sea soil and I think when they were trying to make like, you know the coffee and such they had realized that it was a 553 00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:50,020 Darky dark murky color. That's crazy for three weeks 554 00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:54,740 For three weeks like I cannot imagine going to a hotel not knowing that 555 00:44:55,620 --> 00:44:58,180 You were drinking the water of someone that was resting in a 556 00:44:59,220 --> 00:45:01,220 Water tank for like weeks like 557 00:45:01,780 --> 00:45:05,380 Weeks oh my god, I would never be able to drink fossil water again 558 00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:08,020 Yeah, I would be like traumatized 559 00:45:08,020 --> 00:45:13,620 I would be very traumatized. I can imagine what those people I'm oh, it's just it's so so gross 560 00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:16,180 And then like like I said 561 00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:18,180 It's hard to say that she was 562 00:45:19,220 --> 00:45:21,220 deemed 563 00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:23,540 I mean 564 00:45:23,380 --> 00:45:24,740 dead by 565 00:45:24,740 --> 00:45:26,740 no foul play because 566 00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:30,420 Again, how would we know that because I don't know. It's just weird to me 567 00:45:30,420 --> 00:45:36,180 I mean like I said DNA would have been washed away by water water does a lot of damage to a body 568 00:45:36,180 --> 00:45:41,060 Oh, so makes it decomp a lot faster. Yeah, you're right. It does make it decomp a lot faster 569 00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:44,420 So that's what I'm saying like if she was gone from the water 570 00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:46,980 I'm saying like if she was gone for three weeks 571 00:45:47,540 --> 00:45:53,060 How do we know that she wasn't murdered or how do we know that something wasn't put 572 00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:58,660 To limits other than just her herself putting herself in danger. It's just so weird to me 573 00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:02,420 And now her parents did file a wrongful death 574 00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:08,420 On the stay on main which is the name of the host sea soul that changed her name back in 2011 575 00:46:08,740 --> 00:46:12,420 Which I know I think people always believe that they changed her name because of this death 576 00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:17,220 But they actually were already changed by 2011 this happened in 2013 577 00:46:17,380 --> 00:46:20,660 So it was already set and done by the name change 578 00:46:21,220 --> 00:46:27,300 But the suit had made a dismiss. Uh, sorry the suit had been dismissed because the judge shared that the 579 00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:31,860 The what happened was kind of a unforeseeable tragedy 580 00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:34,500 Being that where this was also 581 00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:39,860 Happening to Lisa was an area that was off limits to the public and guests 582 00:46:39,860 --> 00:46:43,620 So let's just get into the conspiracies here 583 00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:47,860 So the number one conspiracy murder 584 00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:52,260 Some people believe that the that the 585 00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:57,540 Death of Alisa lamb may have been by an employee at the hotel 586 00:46:58,580 --> 00:46:59,380 This 587 00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:06,420 Could be very plausible only because of the footage if we think about the footage and all 588 00:47:06,420 --> 00:47:13,780 She had been on this footage and then as people say it had skipped and so maybe the hotel 589 00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:16,420 someone at the hotel maybe had 590 00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:22,180 Had curtsy or had temper with the cctv footage and maybe it was 591 00:47:23,140 --> 00:47:26,180 You know sees the sea soul tell protecting their own 592 00:47:26,980 --> 00:47:28,180 Don't know 593 00:47:28,180 --> 00:47:32,660 They would also know the alarm system and how to open it and all that 594 00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:36,660 But the only thing with that one is it would be very difficult to carry 595 00:47:37,540 --> 00:47:45,140 Oh girl up a fire escape. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good point and up the water tower. Yeah, so that's a that's a good question 596 00:47:45,140 --> 00:47:47,700 like what happens with I mean, that's 597 00:47:48,580 --> 00:47:54,580 You have a fires you have a alarm system. So why didn't that go off when she got up there? Like that doesn't make sense 598 00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:57,060 one thing I can think of is maybe 599 00:47:58,260 --> 00:48:00,260 Without alarm system wasn't 600 00:48:00,260 --> 00:48:06,180 set. Yeah, like maybe it was malfunction. Maybe it was. Yeah, maybe it was malfunction that day, which is very still 601 00:48:06,580 --> 00:48:10,180 weird to me, but that's a thought that is a good thought 602 00:48:11,380 --> 00:48:15,140 Another one online students had called out a heavy metal musician 603 00:48:15,940 --> 00:48:18,740 Names morbid as a prime suspect 604 00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:25,460 Now morbid who tells his story in the episode of the crime scene the vanishing at the Cecil hotel series 605 00:48:26,020 --> 00:48:27,140 which is 606 00:48:27,140 --> 00:48:31,540 On site note on Netflix. You guys can watch it. It's really good 607 00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:40,500 He explains that he was mistakenly linked to the crime after internet users realized that he had stayed in the hotel a whole year before 608 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:42,500 Lam's disappearance 609 00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:44,500 so 610 00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:46,500 Can it be him? 611 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:52,500 And I felt bad for that guy because I was watching that and this guy was brutally just, you know, thrown 612 00:48:53,220 --> 00:48:55,220 Death threats left and right 613 00:48:55,220 --> 00:49:00,420 about this case and I just felt so bad because this man wasn't even in the area at the time 614 00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:03,380 But that was there and I just wanted to give that as a 615 00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:06,500 As a statement to think about 616 00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:12,100 But if Alisa was murdered it would be making more sense to me because 617 00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:16,020 How this is laid out that 618 00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:22,340 She actually texted on tumblr or on her tumblr feed that she had felt like she was being followed 619 00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:25,300 He's leading up to her disappearance 620 00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:27,700 And the hotel she went post 621 00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:32,260 And at the hotel sorry, she would post that she felt eyes were on her 622 00:49:32,260 --> 00:49:37,780 21st 7 which is very creepy considering the CCTV footage on the elevator 623 00:49:38,340 --> 00:49:40,580 She definitely seems paranoid on it and 624 00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:46,340 It's definitely a possibility. So that's something I'm strongly standing against 625 00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:48,980 Personally because it would make sense 626 00:49:48,980 --> 00:49:52,020 That's why I said guys you never know who is watching you 627 00:49:52,340 --> 00:49:57,380 You could see that a lot of your friends might be watching you even on like instagram on your stories and stuff like that 628 00:49:57,380 --> 00:50:02,180 But you never never know. I always look at the very bottom of my instagram stories 629 00:50:02,180 --> 00:50:06,580 If you ever look at that there's a lot of random people that look at my stories. So 630 00:50:07,220 --> 00:50:12,420 Take that as you all not only because I'm my podcasting but there's a lot of random people 631 00:50:13,860 --> 00:50:15,860 So creepy enough 632 00:50:15,860 --> 00:50:22,180 They actually never found her cell phone like I had said and her tumblr was still updating after she had been found dead 633 00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:24,500 in the water tank 634 00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:30,260 But also to be fair at the time and I'm not sure because I don't really use tumblr a lot but 635 00:50:30,980 --> 00:50:32,980 Apparently there is a option on 636 00:50:33,540 --> 00:50:35,540 tumblr that allows you to queue your posts 637 00:50:36,340 --> 00:50:37,380 So 638 00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:42,100 Maybe that's what that was but it is a little eerie that they never found her cell phone 639 00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:46,660 She also was out of speak easy days prior or days leading up to her 640 00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:53,220 Her her founding so there's a good possible. I guess exclamation maybe as to 641 00:50:54,020 --> 00:51:00,260 Someone was using her phone, but that's also weird. Why would they use her tumblr and post stuff there? So I don't know 642 00:51:00,260 --> 00:51:02,260 Especially like some things that has to 643 00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:09,140 Like I don't know how to be like like like relates. Yeah relates to her. Yeah, so that would be really weird 644 00:51:09,140 --> 00:51:13,060 But like I said, I'm still sticking with so far the fact that 645 00:51:14,020 --> 00:51:17,060 Someone may have been following her because she did say that 646 00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:21,300 And yes, she did have a lot of mental 647 00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:24,900 Problems and things like that. But at the same time 648 00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:30,420 I don't always think that that can be resolved as saying she did it herself. So we don't know 649 00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:34,180 Yeah, you can't just rule. We can't just rule that. Yeah. Yeah 650 00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:36,900 Um another one 651 00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:41,700 Was that she was a victim of a snuff film and the la pd wanted her to cover the top 652 00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:46,660 Now that is a really interesting one because it's plausible to 653 00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:49,300 The la pd may have strongly 654 00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:51,460 felt that 655 00:51:51,460 --> 00:51:53,460 They needed to 656 00:51:53,460 --> 00:51:59,700 Protect her own almost like the thought of the hotel doing it. So maybe she saw something. She wasn't supposed to 657 00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:02,500 Maybe she had 658 00:52:02,660 --> 00:52:03,700 Been 659 00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:05,700 Silent to her 660 00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:10,100 Quietly silenced at the hotel and they covered it up that way 661 00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:14,260 I could see it. I wouldn't bet it pass them. I'm not saying the la pd 662 00:52:14,980 --> 00:52:20,740 Did anything don't see us, but it's just a theory. This is just all of us things I found online 663 00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:24,020 one other one is 664 00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:31,220 A weird correlation between a movie. I don't know if you've heard of this um correlation before brie 665 00:52:31,220 --> 00:52:36,020 But it's kind of weird and I kind of give you a weird synapsis on it. Actually, I'll let you read it 666 00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:41,780 But I'll kind of quickly explain to you sources had made this correlation between a lisa staff in a 667 00:52:42,420 --> 00:52:45,300 2002 japanese horror film cut talk water 668 00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:54,020 So according to marie claire dark water was adapted into an american version starring jennifer connelly and 669 00:52:54,660 --> 00:52:57,220 john c wrightly in 2005 670 00:52:57,220 --> 00:53:04,740 In both films based on koji suzuki's short story floating water a mother and daughter named 671 00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:09,940 Dalia and sissilia find dark water leaking from their bedroom ceiling 672 00:53:10,580 --> 00:53:17,460 They soon discovered that the apartment above theirs has flooded and the family who used to live there disappeared under mysterious circumstances 673 00:53:18,420 --> 00:53:25,540 Dalia eventually finds the body of the little girl who once lived in the apartment above and discovers she'd been abandoned by her parents 674 00:53:25,540 --> 00:53:28,980 And drowned after accidentally falling into the building's water tower 675 00:53:30,180 --> 00:53:35,780 Many have pointed out that the film's most basic plot points mimic that of elisa lam's death 676 00:53:36,260 --> 00:53:44,020 With la pd being led to the roof of the ceso hotel after guests complained of black tinted or dark water coming from their taps 677 00:53:46,260 --> 00:53:50,340 So that I mean that's a that's a weird correlation 678 00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:56,740 Yeah, that is like really creepy really similar fairly similar and that again, that's the movie that came out 679 00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:04,260 Um, the story itself came out in 2002 the movie that was an american version was in 2005. So there is a good chance 680 00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:08,020 I don't know it's weird that that correlates so well 681 00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:11,060 And that that happened the way it did. I don't even think 682 00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:16,900 A chronicle story says she's even seen that movie or even knew that story existed. So that is really really weird 683 00:54:17,460 --> 00:54:19,060 Um, just be a coincidence 684 00:54:19,060 --> 00:54:24,900 It could be a bit coincidence. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of things that happen in movies that you know 685 00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:28,820 Corrally a lot. Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah good point 686 00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:31,460 um, and then one last um 687 00:54:32,580 --> 00:54:34,580 weird little 688 00:54:34,660 --> 00:54:36,660 I guess 689 00:54:37,220 --> 00:54:39,620 Conspiracy is the elevator game 690 00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:46,180 now, I don't know if you've ever heard of the elevator game apparently it is a um 691 00:54:46,180 --> 00:54:50,260 um, origination from uh, korea and Japan 692 00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:56,580 It's essentially just a step-by-step ritual that is believed by some to blur the lines of reality 693 00:54:57,140 --> 00:54:59,140 and so some believe that 694 00:54:59,940 --> 00:55:08,340 The reason for alisa is sitting so many of the buttons and such correlate with the game that this is played in korea and japan 695 00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:10,820 and so, uh 696 00:55:10,820 --> 00:55:18,980 Bri is was going to read just how the game played out and how the steps played out for uh, this game already so 697 00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:21,860 the elevator game 698 00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:23,460 um 699 00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:25,460 So it looks like there's like a little preface 700 00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:30,100 There are many steps to playing and surviving the elevator game and as we've been warned 701 00:55:30,180 --> 00:55:33,540 It's imperative that you follow them precisely and in the exact order 702 00:55:34,180 --> 00:55:39,620 In the game you will need at least one player and an elevator in a building with a minimum of 10 floors 703 00:55:39,620 --> 00:55:42,980 Um, and here's how you play. So step one 704 00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:48,900 Um, let's say you are the player you enter an elevator alone or with another player 705 00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:56,340 No outsider can enter the elevator with you nor can you leave at any point if you do exit the elevator you must start over 706 00:55:57,460 --> 00:56:02,260 Um step two then you ride the elevator from floor to floor in a specific sequence 707 00:56:02,740 --> 00:56:06,820 Up to the fourth floor down to the second floor up to the sixth floor 708 00:56:06,820 --> 00:56:12,100 Back down to the second floor up to the tenth floor and then down to the fifth floor 709 00:56:12,820 --> 00:56:16,340 And you are not allowed to get off at any of the floors 710 00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:21,700 Um, step three when you get to that fifth floor if you encounter mysterious women 711 00:56:22,180 --> 00:56:26,020 Do not look at her and do not answer or interact with her in any way 712 00:56:26,580 --> 00:56:32,100 The consequences of engaging with her are said to include the possibility of never returning to the real world 713 00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:37,140 Step four push the button to descend from the fifth floor to the first floor 714 00:56:37,300 --> 00:56:43,940 Here's where they say things could get crazy if the elevator operates normally and takes you to the first floor exit immediately 715 00:56:44,260 --> 00:56:46,500 And do not look back or talk to anyone 716 00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:51,460 But if instead of taking you from the fifth to the first floor the elevator begins to go up 717 00:56:51,780 --> 00:56:56,660 Well, congratulations. You're being allowed into another world or so they say 718 00:56:56,660 --> 00:57:03,540 Alternate alternatively you might resist the urge to freak out and instead simply press the emergency button 719 00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:06,340 And wait for the fire department to arrive with help 720 00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:08,420 And then it states 721 00:57:08,420 --> 00:57:12,020 So now you know how to punch our ticket to this portal to another world 722 00:57:12,660 --> 00:57:16,340 Elevator game believers say all sorts of things might happen at this point 723 00:57:16,580 --> 00:57:21,540 Things might look different and might be dark and spooky and the power might be out and no one else will be around 724 00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:26,500 Some players have even claimed that they look out the window and saw only a red cross in the distance 725 00:57:26,740 --> 00:57:28,740 You might even lose consciousness 726 00:57:28,820 --> 00:57:32,820 If you're like me though, probably the thing you'd like to hear in this situation is to know how to get home 727 00:57:33,220 --> 00:57:37,940 Well, elevator game aficionados have an answer for how to return to 728 00:57:38,660 --> 00:57:42,820 So this is just how like the steps to return safely from the other world 729 00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:48,420 So the way home has several steps all of which players say you must follow exactly 730 00:57:48,420 --> 00:57:51,620 Lest you get stuck in the other world. So step one 731 00:57:51,940 --> 00:57:54,820 You must get on the same elevator you rode before 732 00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:57,860 Finding it might be a problem, but um 733 00:57:58,660 --> 00:58:00,900 They advise that you keep searching until you find it 734 00:58:01,460 --> 00:58:07,140 Step two once you enter the elevator again move the floor from floor to floor in exactly the same sequence you did originally 735 00:58:07,140 --> 00:58:09,140 four two six two ten five 736 00:58:09,940 --> 00:58:12,580 Upon reaching the fifth floor press the button to the first floor 737 00:58:13,140 --> 00:58:15,540 And then if the elevator starts to send the elevator 738 00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:22,340 And then if the elevator starts to sending again quickly press the button for any other floor before you reach the tenth floor 739 00:58:22,820 --> 00:58:27,700 Or as I've suggested before you can simply press the emergency button have a seat and wait for help to arrive 740 00:58:28,180 --> 00:58:30,180 I hope you don't suffer from claustrophobia 741 00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:34,740 No, so yeah that that 742 00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:40,900 Is pretty much the game of the elevator game, which I'm not playing that game. So fuck that. No, thank you 743 00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:43,060 No, I don't want to get stuck in a different realm 744 00:58:43,060 --> 00:58:46,660 Who the hell ones get stuck in a different realm? I mean that definitely is like 745 00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:54,260 It looks it looks really close to what that game is. So I'm not gonna lie like but like not really in a way because 746 00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:59,620 Although she is like hitting those buttons the elevators clearly not moving and then she's like stuck 747 00:58:59,860 --> 00:59:01,860 Yeah, I was gonna also say that 748 00:59:02,020 --> 00:59:04,580 To me it looks like based on what the keys 749 00:59:05,220 --> 00:59:07,300 Say like you're pressing she presses 750 00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:10,740 Whatever buttons to begin with when she gets on the elevator 751 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:17,620 And then she's like frantically looking around and then she gets back on the elevator and then she's hiding 752 00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:21,940 And then she gets back off of it gets on it to push all those buttons 753 00:59:23,780 --> 00:59:28,980 It correlates well with the game only that the elevator doesn't move like brie said so 754 00:59:30,340 --> 00:59:37,140 That kind of checks itself out. I mean do I believe that this game may be some 755 00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:45,300 Um true ritual or whatever. I don't know can't say don't know what that exists, but it could be who knows who knows 756 00:59:45,860 --> 00:59:47,380 um, but 757 00:59:47,380 --> 00:59:50,020 I'll think I'll ultimately I just think that's just uh 758 00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:53,140 just a really really creepy just 759 00:59:56,020 --> 01:00:00,660 Game to play I don't know why anyone able to play that but if you guys want to play tell me how it goes if you get 760 01:00:01,700 --> 01:00:04,180 Yeah, let us know if you get sent to another dimension 761 01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:06,420 um 762 01:00:06,420 --> 01:00:08,420 Give my wishes so 763 01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:15,540 But yeah, um, so as of today, unfortunately, no one really really knows what 764 01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:20,260 actually happened to alisa lamb as of course, I said it before 765 01:00:21,060 --> 01:00:25,060 she was deemed um dead by accidental and 766 01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:27,700 people believe that 767 01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:30,420 It was due to her mental health 768 01:00:31,220 --> 01:00:32,260 again 769 01:00:32,260 --> 01:00:36,500 It's hard to believe that and it's still hard to believe that a small girl like the way her 770 01:00:37,060 --> 01:00:39,940 was could do all of that if you see the water tank 771 01:00:40,340 --> 01:00:43,060 It's a 20 20 pound heavy water tank 772 01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:47,140 Lever like I said, she was floating up 773 01:00:47,860 --> 01:00:53,220 In the tank so for her to get into the tank she would have to shut that tank door 774 01:00:53,780 --> 01:01:00,260 So that's still like question mark to me because I'm like, how can she that one person get into the water tank? 775 01:01:00,260 --> 01:01:02,260 Float her way up 776 01:01:02,420 --> 01:01:09,780 Shut the water tank and then you know just be in there that and she would have also had a strip naked before she went in 777 01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:12,100 Yeah, she would have to strip naked 778 01:01:12,260 --> 01:01:14,260 Throw her close into the water tank 779 01:01:15,140 --> 01:01:22,580 Get into the water tank shut the door behind her and then and then what like I don't know and she didn't seem to be suicidal 780 01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:24,580 It just doesn't seem 781 01:01:24,580 --> 01:01:27,700 Practical to me. She seemed like she like I said from the bookstore 782 01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:31,140 She seemed like the lady had said she was looking to get her family like 783 01:01:31,940 --> 01:01:34,740 knickknacks and stuff to take back home and she was like 784 01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:40,180 Look excited to be going to other places and stuff. She was actually getting her like her stuff together 785 01:01:40,820 --> 01:01:45,300 After figuring out a lot about this like mental health and her disorder that she had so 786 01:01:46,180 --> 01:01:47,380 I don't know 787 01:01:47,380 --> 01:01:54,340 And then she said that she felt like she was being followed and stuff. Yeah that part really just gets me because she said that actually 788 01:01:54,660 --> 01:01:56,740 um, I don't think I mentioned this even 789 01:01:56,740 --> 01:01:58,740 uh at the beginning but 790 01:01:58,980 --> 01:02:07,380 Uh, right before she said that she started traveling. She said that she felt uh online presence because I think when she had an issue 791 01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:11,940 She said it showing her like locations and stuff. I think that was when she was like, oh, shit 792 01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:18,420 Like I shouldn't have showed my location and I think that's when I don't know. She turned it off or whatnot, but I do know it kind of 793 01:02:19,220 --> 01:02:20,340 kind of 794 01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:24,260 Creeped her out a little bit and so I think that was also a point to this too 795 01:02:24,260 --> 01:02:28,180 Was that she felt this whole entire time that she was being followed 796 01:02:28,980 --> 01:02:32,580 I can't say whether or not. Maybe it was part of the fact that you know 797 01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:39,220 according to uh, the optopsy she had taken her um, her pills the way she was supposed to 798 01:02:39,540 --> 01:02:41,940 So maybe she was I don't know. Maybe she was 799 01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:47,060 Seeing things maybe she wasn't seeing things and she was really onto something 800 01:02:47,780 --> 01:02:53,060 It's hard to know but I think it's just such a mysterious case because of the way that she 801 01:02:53,060 --> 01:02:58,500 Was acting. Yeah, plus the fact that you know, she turns up dead 802 01:02:58,980 --> 01:03:02,740 Yeah, plus the fact of like how would she have done that by herself 803 01:03:03,380 --> 01:03:05,380 Plus the fact of like 804 01:03:05,380 --> 01:03:07,940 How would someone have done it? 805 01:03:08,660 --> 01:03:13,300 Like like let's say someone did kill her. How would they have carried her body up into 806 01:03:14,180 --> 01:03:20,420 You know the water tank while also having her having her holstered over their shoulder. Yeah over their shoulder or something 807 01:03:21,060 --> 01:03:22,980 um and like 808 01:03:22,980 --> 01:03:29,140 I mean and let's say like they didn't kill her first like maybe they put her in there and she was still alive like 809 01:03:31,220 --> 01:03:38,420 How would they have carried her up the fire escape and up the water tower which is huge. Yeah, that's true. There's a lot of steps 810 01:03:39,060 --> 01:03:42,580 While she was alive, would she not be kicking screaming yelling you what yeah 811 01:03:42,740 --> 01:03:46,820 Was she tranquilized? Did they find anything in her system? Like that's the weirdest thing 812 01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:49,460 It's just something to me when I hear this case 813 01:03:49,460 --> 01:03:52,420 Based on what I've shared with all of you 814 01:03:53,060 --> 01:03:56,900 Something doesn't add up to me. Something's missing like something is a lot missing 815 01:03:56,980 --> 01:04:02,340 There's a lot missing to this case that just doesn't make sense because I'm thinking about it too and I'm like 816 01:04:02,980 --> 01:04:04,820 okay 817 01:04:04,820 --> 01:04:10,980 Like bria said all these things don't add up like no matter how the way you look at it based on murder 818 01:04:11,220 --> 01:04:14,020 Like if it was a murderer, how was it one person that did this? 819 01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,380 It had to be at least one more than one person in that case and they just really 820 01:04:17,380 --> 01:04:22,580 Track they clean their tracks up very well. The other thing is that if she did this herself 821 01:04:23,540 --> 01:04:26,340 It would have been a struggle like why would you go through all of that? 822 01:04:27,060 --> 01:04:32,260 Just to you know end up dead in a water tank that doesn't add up either to me 823 01:04:33,060 --> 01:04:38,180 And it's just like no matter how the way you look at it whether it was suicide or whether it was accidental to me. It's like 824 01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:44,660 This girl wasn't a very big girl. I can get past that like how could she do all this? How could she she's tiny? 825 01:04:44,660 --> 01:04:51,140 She was tiny and how could she get past? You know that video was the last video they saw of her that that red 826 01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:55,460 You know sweater had talked about in those pants that was the outfit they found in the water 827 01:04:55,540 --> 01:04:58,180 So that was the night she was last seen 828 01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:00,740 So it's just weird to me how 829 01:05:01,460 --> 01:05:03,140 you know 830 01:05:03,140 --> 01:05:08,260 All these things could have aligned the way they did and for the forensics and the you know 831 01:05:08,820 --> 01:05:11,460 The scientists to say oh this was accidental 832 01:05:11,460 --> 01:05:16,660 It just doesn't they just rolled it out too easily to me. I don't know. It's just so crazy to me and I just 833 01:05:17,380 --> 01:05:23,220 I don't know. It's definitely a weird case. I've heard a lot of conspiracies involving the hotel and them trying to turn it up and 834 01:05:23,780 --> 01:05:28,020 Maybe it was someone in the hotel and I think you know the manager was being sketched 835 01:05:28,180 --> 01:05:32,580 I'll point to that and I honestly if it's not someone that was really following her 836 01:05:32,660 --> 01:05:35,780 I honestly say maybe it was don't again. Don't sue us, but 837 01:05:36,580 --> 01:05:40,660 Based on the evidence you never know. I mean it's closed now as of today 838 01:05:40,660 --> 01:05:46,500 Um, I did check too is permanently permanently closed. They did change the name to the stay 839 01:05:47,620 --> 01:05:54,660 On main and that was the name of it up until I closed it. Um, I think they're remodeling or but they're trying to 840 01:05:55,220 --> 01:06:02,180 They're trying to remodel but they're not opening up to the public for like uh staying there anymore. They're keeping it as a 841 01:06:03,300 --> 01:06:05,300 like a 842 01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:08,100 Not a museum, but like uh, what's the word? 843 01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:10,100 I'm attracted almost or 844 01:06:10,660 --> 01:06:15,860 Yeah, like an attraction. Yeah, I think it's like being mostly turned into like just a monumental structure just to keep there 845 01:06:15,860 --> 01:06:18,580 So they're not gonna tear it down or anything as far as I know 846 01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:24,420 They're gonna keep it there and they are renovating but I think it's pretty much just becoming kind of almost like a museum 847 01:06:24,740 --> 01:06:27,540 I feel like they wouldn't they shouldn't re renovate if they're 848 01:06:28,260 --> 01:06:34,020 Planning leave it as is. Yeah, like if they're planning on like making money off of it to show people who are curious about like 849 01:06:34,020 --> 01:06:40,740 Yeah, or what it looks like or you know people like us who are interested in its history. Yeah, whatever whatever I feel like 850 01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:45,460 Revenivating is just like pointless. I think that's 851 01:06:45,860 --> 01:06:51,700 These these how it looks. That's what I'm saying and I think it's more irritating to me because 852 01:06:52,580 --> 01:06:54,580 I feel like it's been like 853 01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:58,900 Over the years that they have kept re renovating. They see the hotel 854 01:06:58,900 --> 01:07:04,020 Over and over and over again. So based on all these deaths that have happened 855 01:07:04,820 --> 01:07:08,340 Even if you know, we wanted to figure out what happened 856 01:07:08,340 --> 01:07:12,020 We couldn't because all this is being tore down and rebuilt over and over again 857 01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:17,160 And that makes it very hard to be able to understand what's going on at the hotel 858 01:07:18,580 --> 01:07:25,460 Because cases can still be solved years and years on the road. I've seen so many cases. I think I 859 01:07:25,460 --> 01:07:32,660 Can't even pin point one. Oh the boy in the box. He just told me about that one. They identified who the boy was 860 01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:35,300 Which is a gruesome case in itself 861 01:07:36,340 --> 01:07:44,500 But that you know gave justice to the family of that child who had once passed away back in I think what it was at the 50s or 60s 862 01:07:45,540 --> 01:07:46,660 so 863 01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:50,020 DNA testing things like that can still be used. It's just about 864 01:07:50,020 --> 01:07:56,260 How you proceed to use it and things that get cleaned up and stuff like that just make it so much harder. So 865 01:07:57,060 --> 01:08:02,020 but I do hope that one day Alisa's lamb Alisa lamb story can be 866 01:08:03,140 --> 01:08:06,980 Resolved in the right way or solved in the right way and we can 867 01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:11,060 Finally get the clarity to know what happened to her because 868 01:08:12,020 --> 01:08:16,900 At this point to me, I think there's just not enough evidence to really figure out what it is 869 01:08:16,900 --> 01:08:20,900 And as of today it is a mystery. So 870 01:08:21,940 --> 01:08:26,820 Wow, that's just insane that this even happens and being that we did cover this case 871 01:08:27,620 --> 01:08:31,460 Me traveling puts me in a little bit of a weird space because 872 01:08:32,660 --> 01:08:38,900 Just knowing that alone. It's kind of creepy and such but uh, it does make you want to be just more careful 873 01:08:39,140 --> 01:08:42,740 Honestly, I think that's a real good reason to even share these stories 874 01:08:42,740 --> 01:08:47,060 Obviously because you know anything can happen. Nothing is guaranteed 875 01:08:48,180 --> 01:08:51,940 Fortunately and these kind of ages nothing is guaranteed. So 876 01:08:52,980 --> 01:08:56,980 But there we go. That is the case of Alisa lamb 877 01:08:57,780 --> 01:08:59,780 us 878 01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:03,220 I like to us serious. I'm sorry. No mysterious 879 01:09:05,220 --> 01:09:07,940 Yeah, that is a mysterious case of Alisa lamb 880 01:09:07,940 --> 01:09:13,140 Um, let us know what you guys think about that. We are really just um 881 01:09:13,780 --> 01:09:16,180 Interested in hearing what you guys have to say about this case 882 01:09:16,740 --> 01:09:22,580 If you guys have any more information about it things like that, let us know we're always here to accept more information 883 01:09:23,220 --> 01:09:27,540 My stomach is growling. She's hungry. She hungry 884 01:09:28,020 --> 01:09:34,180 Time for the famous spiel ways to reach us. So we're gonna be on instagram at wtlg ope podcast 885 01:09:34,180 --> 01:09:38,260 Kendall's personal instagram is at this is Kendall Hudson 886 01:09:38,820 --> 01:09:43,780 Our facebook is when the light goes out twitter wtlg ope podcast 887 01:09:44,420 --> 01:09:46,340 email 888 01:09:46,340 --> 01:09:49,220 inquiries at gmail.com. Please send us some emails 889 01:09:49,940 --> 01:09:56,340 YouTube wtlg ope podcast haven't posted anything on there, but hopefully in the future maybe next year 890 01:09:56,980 --> 01:10:01,780 Um, as always, please send us some video ideas or not video. I guess 891 01:10:01,780 --> 01:10:03,780 Um story ideas 892 01:10:04,820 --> 01:10:06,820 Um through email rdms 893 01:10:07,300 --> 01:10:12,260 We still want to do the paranormal episode and we can always use some ideas for next year 894 01:10:12,740 --> 01:10:17,060 Of different cases that you guys want us to cover. Um, we've been doing a lot of well-known ones 895 01:10:17,140 --> 01:10:21,780 So maybe send in some maybe not so well-known ones so we can shut some light on those 896 01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:25,380 Speak those victims names and stuff 897 01:10:26,020 --> 01:10:29,780 Um, but as always thank you so much for supporting and listening us 898 01:10:29,780 --> 01:10:35,140 Hopefully my power comes back on it looks like hopefully sometime around 325 it's saying 899 01:10:35,540 --> 01:10:44,260 Oh, okay. So like an hour an hour. Hopefully. Um, at least my wi-fi and uh, as always we appreciate you guys 900 01:10:44,500 --> 01:10:52,180 And we'll catch you next time. Definitely. Thank you. I uh, yeah, we'll be here next week and we'll be continuing our little 901 01:10:52,180 --> 01:10:59,540 Cecil series, but we'll be taking it a little outside the Cecil this time and you'll just have to see what we do 902 01:10:59,780 --> 01:11:05,860 So stay tuned guys. We love you. 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