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I'm Kendall and I'm Bree and this is When the Light Goes Out.

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So this is the time around the year where everyone is posting their top 10 rankings for like other analytics for music.

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Oh, the Spotify Raps.

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Apple Raps, whatever you call them.

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Mine kind of did me dirty.

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I was like, oh, I'm going to get all these different pop music.

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I'm sorry, not pop music.

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All these different rock and alternative music, top hits and everything.

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And then Spotify is like, nah, you gay.

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So they gave me.

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I think what am I like Beyonce, Nicki Minaj, Mac and the Stallion.

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What are you called?

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Maybe the gay icons.

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Gay icons.

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Gay icons.

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Yeah.

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So it's cool though.

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It's cool.

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I'm mad because, okay, don't roast me people, but I prefer Apple Music.

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Okay.

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I do too.

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I have both.

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Okay.

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I think it always is like Spotify is better and I just like I prefer Apple's layout man.

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I do too.

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And I'm not one to like discover music, which I know like it's the main thing about Spotify.

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Like I just like listen to the songs.

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That's my thing.

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I like the layout of Apple more, but Spotify has good like, like if you're listening to

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random music, yeah, discover and stuff.

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And I also like, I just figured out the Spotify is a thing where they can play music and it

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kind of like, you can kind of see them into each other.

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So like when it ends, you can do that.

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Yeah, you can.

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Just learn how to do that.

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Yeah.

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But I have, like I'm saying, I have Apple Music and I've been trying to get my like replay

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to work and I can never fricking every year.

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I can never get it to work.

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And I don't know if I have this exact problem every year, but this year it's been like I'll

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sign in or whatever.

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And then it'll basically tell me to like subscribe, but I already have a subscription and I'm

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using Apple Music just fine.

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Like look, so it'll say this and then if you hit not now, it just takes you right back

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to not that, but it's just saying, yeah, it's like, it takes me right back to this.

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And then if you hit, hold on, we get it to load.

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If you hit the other button, like the try now button, it like makes me do a subscription.

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So I was like, okay, well, maybe I need to like renew my subscription.

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So I went and I did a whole thing with college student like this, not whatever, since I'm

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still in school through Unidays and whatever.

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And it's like, you already have an active subscription.

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What?

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That's weird.

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Huh.

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So it's like a freaking Apple replay.

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Oh my gosh.

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So I can't really see it.

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And it's every freaking year I have a problem with that every year.

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And I'm like, what?

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Like what's the issue?

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I don't get it.

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What?

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They are cheating you on that.

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Yeah.

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That's like the main, I feel like that's the main thing with like with with like the year

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ending.

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It's like you have.

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Yeah.

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And everyone's like posting or like, yeah, I listened to this or this is my top artist.

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And I'm really curious because I mean, I am very like, I'm not, I guess kind of,

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I'm kind of specific with like the music I listen to when I really like something, like

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I really like something.

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Yeah.

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So, fuck.

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No, you're good.

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So I'm sure that I have like, like I'm sure I can guess like kind of what my top songs

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or my top artists are or whatever.

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But like I want to actually see what they actually are.

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But I always shocks me because I swear, no, you're good.

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She keeps hitting her little, her boom, her soft, her softbox thing.

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I'm so sorry.

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Wait, hold on.

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Let's stop real quick and make sure we're still good.

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Hold on.

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This time and I have to renew it, which I don't know if I've renewed it, but normally

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it'll yell at me like, hey, you haven't done it.

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Oh yeah.

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Do it.

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Yeah.

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Now we're going to figure that out later.

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We're back guys.

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Sorry.

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Sorry.

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We had to adjust her mic a little bit, but we're good.

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We're good.

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And what's the problem?

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Am I the drama?

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Am I the drama?

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I am the drama.

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I'm the villain.

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I wouldn't want it any other way.

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I am the drama.

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I am the drama right now because my eye is so watery.

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I've been wearing my fake eyelashes all day and for whatever reason, they've been irritating

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my eye all day and they normally never do.

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Missed the glue maybe?

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I don't know.

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So I ripped them off my eyeballs.

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So now I'm recording this with Kendall with naked eyes.

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I don't even have an eyeliner.

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Your eyelashes, I mean, your eyebrows look really good though.

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My eyebrows look so much better when I have a beat.

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Beat face and my lashes.

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Because my lashes are really short right now.

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Because they're on the way.

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My natural lashes are so short and I prefer how I look with my fake ones.

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No, it's okay.

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You're so pretty either way.

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I love you.

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My fake lashes.

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Oh, and let's manifest it now guys.

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We will be on everyone's top 10 ranking for most listen podcasts next year.

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Let's make it happen.

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Make it happen.

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We're manifesting that now.

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Let's do it.

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We're gonna come back to episode 14 and be like, we did that shit, didn't we?

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We did that.

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And I'm also so glad you're feeling better.

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You sound amazing.

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Oh my god, I feel so much better than last week.

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I was so sad.

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I was actually dead on the ground last week.

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I don't even know how I worked.

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The whole week I was exhausted.

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You put yourself through it last week.

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You were doing really well because you went to a wedding and then you were working and

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then it got time for school.

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Everything.

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But the thing was though is that after work I was exhausted.

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And after like the wedding exhausted.

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Like after everything else flat.

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I can tell the day we were gonna record.

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We were ready to record but I can tell Be was just not.

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She was trying.

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And was that a day that I worked too?

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Yeah, and did work that day.

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And after work and I was fucking exhausted.

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I could tell.

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I was like, I was really pulling through though.

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We started filming and everything.

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We got like a little ways in.

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We did.

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And one time it came home.

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It's like timing you just wanna take over.

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Yeah, I felt bad.

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I love you Simon.

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He did great.

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He did a good job.

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Everyone liked him so I'm like good job.

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Good job.

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Yeah, she slept the whole time.

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We love her though.

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Not my proudest moment.

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It's okay.

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I had a slight cough earlier this week and the moment I felt I was like hell no.

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I'm good though I promise.

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I took a lot of medicine.

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I'm medicated.

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I'm going to New York next week so I've been trying to have my best.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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Eat lunch and chat.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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I'm working.

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Oh my gosh.

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I love that.

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Oh my god.

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My neighbors are probably like shut the fuck up and shut the fuck in there.

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They're smoking weed they're fine.

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Oh yeah they're fine.

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Shout out apartment 201.

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It'd be so funny if they were listening to this and even though you were there they're

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like oh my God they're right above us.

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Yeah, hey guys.

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Oh and last week I, me and Simon had talked about briefly a lot of, I was used to being

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a lot of the shit that has been going on around the world.

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We kind of talked about it too before we stopped recording.

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And I was just going to say, there's no update so far on that stabbing that happened

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at the University of Idaho with those first students.

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So tragic, still so sad to even think about.

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I thought they had like a suspect.

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I think they do.

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I think they do have a suspect, but I think they're just holding him.

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Nothing at all.

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I know they've been being like really strategic about letting information out

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and stuff.

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So hopefully.

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Yeah, maybe they are keeping things closer to the chest and they do know.

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So hopefully that's actually doing good.

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I just want to put, yeah, I want to get those kids justice because

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oh, that's so shitty.

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I feel so, it just feels so bad for them.

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And then we have scheduled for the first time ever the whole month of December.

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We got everything scheduled so we have episodes ready.

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We haven't done them yet, but we know what we're doing.

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So I'm really excited because for the most parts we are pretty much covering the Cecil Hotel

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and everything around it.

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And I'm sure by now you've seen the title of this episode, which is

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Bad Times at the Cecil Hotel.

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Tell them what it's the playoff of.

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So this is the playoff of the movie.

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The title.

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Oh, the title.

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Yeah, the playoff of Bad Times at Al Royale, which if you guys have never seen that movie,

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that movie is so amazing.

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There are so many good starts in it.

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I think it came out like a couple of years ago.

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And yes, just went to it.

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I'm sure it's not that much money.

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Just do it.

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It's great.

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I love it.

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Do it.

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Do it.

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I haven't even watched it.

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I guess I'm going to have to.

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No, you need.

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Oh my God.

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I literally will come over and we can watch it because that movie is amazing.

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And I think I love it.

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Deal.

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Yes.

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Hell yeah.

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And yeah, it really is.

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There's only been bad times at the Cecil Hotel.

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So I've been wanting to do this and cover this topic for a long time.

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And so.

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Cecil Hotel, what's the word I'm looking for?

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Like enigma?

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Enigma, yes.

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Everything about this.

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Is that the word?

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Yeah, I think it's a good word to use.

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Enigma.

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Everything about this hotel is just pure evil.

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Did you see that they, okay.

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So like I randomly see stuff about it on TikTok because there's like a parking

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center across the street or something.

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And they painted it.

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They painted like the original Cecil Hotel painting that was on the side.

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That's like.

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What?

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That is so interesting.

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They like painted it white.

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I was like.

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White.

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Why?

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They thought.

279
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Why?

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Oh my God.

281
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Like literally why?

282
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Oh my God.

283
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I don't like that.

284
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Because it's not being called the Cecil Hotel anymore, but that's like literally like.

285
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I'm sorry, but that's part of its history.

286
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It is part of its history.

287
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Honestly, I know it's brought a lot of shitty shit to light and recover a lot of that.

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In a minute, but it's just a landmark for a lot of shit that's happened.

289
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And yeah, it's not in the best area ever because it is sitting in skit row.

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But it's like, I don't know.

291
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It has so much history to it.

292
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And it's kind of crazy that it's just there.

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I don't know.

294
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I just think about like America versus like Europe, for instance.

295
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And I think about how like we tear down and rebuild a lot.

296
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Yeah.

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Right.

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Whereas Europe most of the time just has like a lot of structure that has been there

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for years and has history.

300
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And something about that just really is just interesting to me.

301
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So I don't know.

302
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I didn't realize that the Cecil Hotel was right in skit row.

303
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Like it's literally right there.

304
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Yeah.

305
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Damn.

306
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Yeah.

307
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Which makes it worse.

308
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Throughout this month.

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Yeah.

310
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We'll figure out that a lot of shit and a lot of people have been in that place.

311
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Oh yeah.

312
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I know it's been big for famous people too.

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For famous.

314
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Yeah.

315
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You're right.

316
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I don't want to get ahead of myself.

317
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No, it's okay.

318
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You are serial killers too.

319
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Yeah.

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So yeah.

321
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This month we will pretty much.

322
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So I won't say like every single story we're going to cover this month is specifically about

323
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the Cecil Hotel.

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But as we get later and later into the month, a lot of these stories are going to have some

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kind of attachment to it.

326
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So I think that was really cool.

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I think I kind of worked really hard this week trying to structure how this this month is going to be

328
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centered around this kind of theme.

329
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So I think that'll be a fun little thing for us to do.

330
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And so today we have we're doing something a little different.

331
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So we are talking about the Cecil Hotel and we're going to be talking about the Cecil Hotel

332
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and four different cases, short mini cases.

333
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So buckle your seatbelts.

334
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Buckle your seatbelts because whoa, we have we have some crazy ones in here.

335
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So I'm excited to get to get going here.

336
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So yes.

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You ready, Boo and Bunny?

338
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Yes, Boo and Bunny.

339
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Boo is being great today.

340
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Bunny is being great today.

341
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Well, Boo is not being great today.

342
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She's being good right now.

343
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She's being a little something earlier, but it's okay.

344
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She's back to being okay.

345
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So all right.

346
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They're ready.

347
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All right.

348
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We're all ready.

349
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Y'all ready?

350
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Y'all ready?

351
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Oh, you ready?

352
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Y'all ready for this?

353
00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,800
All right, let's get down to business.

354
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Let's get serious.

355
00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:12,480
All right.

356
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So in a 56 Bach radius in downtown Los Angeles, California, known in the area of Skid Row,

357
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sits a now vacant building at 640 Street, mean, oh, sorry, 640 South Main Street,

358
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once known as the Cecil Hotel.

359
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Bacon.

360
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Bacon as of right now.

361
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I thought they were remodeling.

362
00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:35,760
Is that why it's vacant?

363
00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,400
It's vacant.

364
00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:36,960
Yeah.

365
00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:37,120
Yeah.

366
00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:37,840
Yeah.

367
00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,960
But they're remodeling.

368
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They are remodeling and they're trying to

369
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to bring it back.

370
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And make it nice.

371
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And should we just tell them?

372
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Let's just tell them.

373
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Okay, we can tell them.

374
00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:48,800
Yes, let's tell them.

375
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Go ahead.

376
00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:49,680
Okay.

377
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Well, what do we tell them?

378
00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,040
So next episode, we are doing.

379
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Alisa Lamb.

380
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The Alisa Lamb case.

381
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Yes, we have to, right?

382
00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,680
I mean, it's weird.

383
00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:01,040
That's a really long one.

384
00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:01,760
It's a big one.

385
00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:02,080
Yeah.

386
00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:07,920
So I felt like that needed its own separate case and everything to it.

387
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So I'm very excited.

388
00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,880
We were going to cover that next week.

389
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If you guys don't know about it, don't look it up.

390
00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:13,840
Just keep it.

391
00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,560
Don't spoil it.

392
00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:15,600
Don't spoil it for yourself.

393
00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,280
Please just keep it vacant.

394
00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,040
Not anything.

395
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Just don't.

396
00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:20,800
Just don't look it up.

397
00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,040
But it is a crazy case.

398
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,080
And that's.

399
00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,080
It's a very mysterious case.

400
00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,760
I think it's a very spooky one too.

401
00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,800
So I think this episode will definitely set the foundation

402
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,720
with all these stories we're going to tell you guys.

403
00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,720
And we just hope you guys like it.

404
00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,640
So yes.

405
00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,600
So like I said,

406
00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,440
this building sits at 640 South Main Street,

407
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once known as the CESA Hotel.

408
00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,560
Honestly, it's changed its name a couple times,

409
00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,480
but we know it by the CESA.

410
00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,320
I'm just going to always be the CESA, honestly.

411
00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,400
And the infamous hotel was founded in 1920s

412
00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,960
in the 1920s by William Banks Hanner,

413
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Charles L. Dix and Robert L.

414
00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,240
Sorry, Robert H. Chops,

415
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being a hotel attendant for business travelers,

416
00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,000
social elites,

417
00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,240
and tourists.

418
00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,560
I think that's the most hotels try to be.

419
00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,440
And then the architecture that this hotel first had

420
00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,960
was just immaculate.

421
00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,720
It had been done by architect Lloyd Lester Smith,

422
00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,920
who was rightly known at the time as a local architect.

423
00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,360
And at this time,

424
00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,320
he had designed several commercial and government buildings

425
00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,600
throughout the 1920s.

426
00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,520
The construction of this hotel costed approximately

427
00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,960
$1.5 million to complete just alone

428
00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,000
and was completed with 14 floors and 700 rooms.

429
00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:42,960
That's a lot of money,

430
00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,200
but I also feel like it's not that much money.

431
00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,360
Probably not that much money for an upscale hotel

432
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,760
or therefore it was supposed to be, but...

433
00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,520
What were they trying to make an upscale hotel

434
00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,480
in Skid Row for?

435
00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,640
Well, at the time, and we'll get to this...

436
00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,600
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

437
00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,960
When was it built?

438
00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,560
It was built in the 1920s.

439
00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,160
Okay, yeah, never mind.

440
00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,760
Never mind. Yeah, like 1924.

441
00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,040
Yeah, it wasn't bad yet.

442
00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,240
It wasn't bad yet.

443
00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,400
My critical thinking and listening skills

444
00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,440
are not very great.

445
00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,160
No, you are critical.

446
00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,840
Worth another shift before this.

447
00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,720
Oh, it's also another late night when the light goes out.

448
00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,360
I think we like...

449
00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,920
We can come attached to our late night stuff,

450
00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,880
but it's okay because, you know, we flourish.

451
00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,280
We also digress.

452
00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:35,200
So, like I said, the construction of this hotel

453
00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,240
costed approximately 1.5 million,

454
00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,600
and it was completed with 14 floors and 700 rooms,

455
00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,520
which are a lot of rooms.

456
00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,480
Shit ton of rooms.

457
00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,080
That's a lot of rooms.

458
00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,040
Yeah, oh my god.

459
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,720
I don't know many hotels that do...

460
00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:49,440
I guess, yeah.

461
00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,800
No, there's like, yeah.

462
00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,000
I think you have like Las Vegas.

463
00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,480
They have millions.

464
00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,320
But I feel like for 1920s,

465
00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:54,640
like I feel like that's big.

466
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,760
That's a lot.

467
00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,960
The architecture of that place is...

468
00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,000
It's huge.

469
00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,240
Yeah.

470
00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,400
And so, inside this hotel was a full marble lobby

471
00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,800
and a huge Grand Terracotta entryway.

472
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,160
Oh, sorry, what do you want to say?

473
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,440
Just saying beautiful.

474
00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,080
Beautiful.

475
00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:08,480
Love it.

476
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,760
We love marble.

477
00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,080
And like I said, the huge Grand Terracotta entryway

478
00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,480
with lavish stained glass windows

479
00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,480
and a wooden polished coated stairway

480
00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,920
leading up to the Barker Brother furnished rooms.

481
00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,480
Now, at the time, the Barker Brothers

482
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,120
was a very high-embranage retailer in LA.

483
00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:30,000
So, they kind of flourished everything

484
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,440
or furnished everything, I should say.

485
00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:36,640
So, the rooms at the time with shared bath

486
00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,200
what cost a dollar and fifty cents a night.

487
00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,280
How expensive?

488
00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,400
So, that today would be $25.47.

489
00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,520
That's still nothing.

490
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,640
Still nothing.

491
00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,560
A room with a private toilet what cost two dollars a night,

492
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,040
which today calculates to literally

493
00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,040
$33.96.

494
00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,800
$33.

495
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,840
$33.

496
00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,920
In a room with a private bathroom

497
00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,760
what cost two dollars a night

498
00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,920
with today's paraded cost

499
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,720
amounts to $42.44.

500
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,560
So, not too bad, not too shabby.

501
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,040
The hotel officially opened December 20th, 1927

502
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,480
with in just a year,

503
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,840
the Cecil became a prime focus of the LA life.

504
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,720
Yeah.

505
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,600
Huge.

506
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,520
Tourists love visiting this hotel

507
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,040
with it being right next to the,

508
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,200
or sorry, right in the middle of Los Angeles

509
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,720
and having with elite just what rent rooms out like crazy.

510
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,160
And for the next couple of years,

511
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,920
the hotel just flourished.

512
00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:34,640
It did so well.

513
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,440
Until the US stock market crashed

514
00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,960
igniting the Great Depression.

515
00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,880
Live, laugh, love.

516
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,160
Live, laugh, love, that thing.

517
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,600
That great.

518
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,560
That terrible thing.

519
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,160
I feel like every, I'm not every story,

520
00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,240
but I feel like so many of our old cases

521
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,840
have started with the Great Depression.

522
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,280
It's always the Great Depression.

523
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,960
The Depression, that shit.

524
00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,840
So jobs became scarce, obviously.

525
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,560
Business closed, wages dropped,

526
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,720
and overall everything just started going to shit.

527
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,440
Obviously this really hurt the hotel

528
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,600
because no one could afford to stay in hotels

529
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,920
unless you had money and lots of it.

530
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,000
And then downtown LA area would then

531
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,000
kind of start growing with more and more crime.

532
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,280
And that's when we start getting skit row.

533
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,280
Cause shit just went flat.

534
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,760
So this is really when the hotel

535
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,560
just also started getting its name tarnished

536
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,120
and a long line of terrible events

537
00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:34,160
just started eventually wearing its ugly hat.

538
00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:39,600
Today, the Cesar Hotel is infamously known

539
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,600
for its missing persons cases,

540
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,040
suicides, overdoses, reports of sexual assault,

541
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,760
murders, and serial killers.

542
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,480
A whole lot of tragedy.

543
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,520
A whole lot of tragedy.

544
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,080
A nice little bouquet of trouble.

545
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,040
Yeah, no kidding.

546
00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,000
We will just cover and go into four cases

547
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,240
that gave this hotel its terrible and haunting reputation.

548
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,160
So on November 13th, 1931,

549
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,680
James Willys paid to rent a room

550
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,080
for one week after traveling from Chicago.

551
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,600
Staff and guests would recount seeing James

552
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,960
and never thinking much of him

553
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,880
other than the ordinary, well-dressed gentleman.

554
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,720
He generally would come and go throughout the week for work,

555
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,880
but would never bring visitors around

556
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,720
and just seem rather quiet into himself.

557
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,080
But one day on November 19th, just five days later,

558
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,720
a maid came to his room for housekeeping.

559
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,160
She knocked.

560
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,520
No answer.

561
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,240
She knocked a couple more times.

562
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,960
Still nothing.

563
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,920
She reported nothing out of the ordinary

564
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,200
and just figured he just might be gone for the day.

565
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,920
So she grabs her master key from her apron

566
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,200
and then lets herself in.

567
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,320
And as she does, she walks in and sees

568
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,440
James Willys sprout out on a twin bed

569
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,640
that had gone through heavy rigor mortis.

570
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,800
No.

571
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,040
No.

572
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,760
No. So slight note, heavy, sorry,

573
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,920
rigor mortis is just the siphoning of joints

574
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,120
in the muscles of the body,

575
00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,960
and it happens a few hours after death.

576
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,440
It's kind of like, I'm sorry, you guys have seen

577
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,480
my row kill and it's all stiff and shit.

578
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,200
Yeah, that's it.

579
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,640
So immediately the maid dials police,

580
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,120
by the way, her name was Susan, Susan Quitt.

581
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:32,880
Of course Susan Quitt.

582
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,600
I don't blame her.

583
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,760
After all the stuff that Susan's probably heard.

584
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,680
Oh, oh yeah, seriously though.

585
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,400
And the police scoped up the scene

586
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,160
and saw no signs of first entry,

587
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,960
no signs of robbery or foul play whatsoever,

588
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,280
and no suicide note had been left to help the investigators

589
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,440
understand what the hell happened to James Willys.

590
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,920
But what they did find were several manuscript pills

591
00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,920
in a vest pocket,

592
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,880
and police did not even investigate what these pills actually were.

593
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,840
They just automatically assumed that it was poison.

594
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,240
I'm so sick of shoddy police work.

595
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,520
Shoddy police work and wait till we get to our other cases

596
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,680
this month with the LA police.

597
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,000
So they literally just looked at him and they said,

598
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,240
yep, he poisoned himself.

599
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,320
And in the early 1900s, poison was a leading cause of suicide

600
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,600
versus other forms of ending anyone's life.

601
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,080
So I understand it, but spoiler, he did commit suicide.

602
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,280
But despite that, you are an investigator, investigate.

603
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,400
Like don't just look at a course.

604
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,360
I'm gonna assume.

605
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:38,240
Yeah, don't assume.

606
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,960
Don't look at it and call it as you see it, like investigate.

607
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,640
But the pills weren't even all that they found

608
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,800
because in James's trouser pocket,

609
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,400
they found three checks all made out to a Mrs. MC Morton.

610
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:51,920
Random, right?

611
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,360
Yeah.

612
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:54,880
Well, come to find out.

613
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,280
The man's alias was James Willys,

614
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,920
but his real name was W.K. Noran.

615
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,080
And prior to his death,

616
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,400
he had been reported missing from his home

617
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,520
in Manhattan Beach.

618
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,640
So he was not from Chicago.

619
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,440
And he had left his wife, changed his name,

620
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,480
so he wouldn't be found and moved away to escape his worries.

621
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,800
But clearly his worries caught up to him.

622
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,720
And based on police reports,

623
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,960
he his wife thinks that he ended his life

624
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,760
because of the grief that came out of the Great Depression.

625
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,200
So clearly the Great Depression put a lot of people

626
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,920
in some shit, which I feel so bad.

627
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,640
So it's unfortunate.

628
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,760
It's so unfortunate.

629
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,640
And it's just like that.

630
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:40,400
That one is one of the more simple suicide ones.

631
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,720
But wait till we get to this one.

632
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,840
This one's a little off there.

633
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,440
That's the piece, my man.

634
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,960
No, it's the piece, my man.

635
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,040
So next case, September of 1944,

636
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,080
a couple by the name of Dorothy Jean Purcell,

637
00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:01,280
age 19, and then Levine, age 38, walks into the Cecil.

638
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,840
Hold up.

639
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,840
19 and 30.

640
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,040
Yeah, I thought you would catch that.

641
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,280
Yeah.

642
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,080
All right.

643
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,560
All right.

644
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,400
You know, I'm not going to say much, but uh.

645
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,360
No, no, say a lot.

646
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:14,960
That's very good age gap.

647
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,800
That's a that's one of those.

648
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,280
That's almost 20 year age gap.

649
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,880
That's a yeah, that's a huge gap.

650
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,280
13.

651
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,000
That's 20, right?

652
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,480
Almost.

653
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,600
I think that's almost 20.

654
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,400
Yeah.

655
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,840
My physicians, you tell us.

656
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,040
I'm not smart.

657
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,320
I never claimed to be.

658
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,960
I was 38 versus I'm just not good at math.

659
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,240
So that's what that is.

660
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,600
Well, she's almost.

661
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,480
Oh, good job.

662
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,120
Okay.

663
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:41,520
Yeah.

664
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,680
That's that's a listen, y'all.

665
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,080
Once again, work this ship before this half asleep.

666
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,480
I know I'm stupid.

667
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,320
You're not stupid.

668
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,200
We're just tired.

669
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:51,600
I get it.

670
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:53,440
All right.

671
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,200
They got me 38 and 19 year old walking to a hotel.

672
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,520
What's an ongoing joke?

673
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,440
So they check out for a long period of time or they want to at least

674
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,320
check out.

675
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:04,560
Yeah.

676
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,280
Oh, check in.

677
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:05,760
Sorry.

678
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,640
Thank you.

679
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,640
So the desk lady by the name of Miss Wellworth request some form of time frame because a couple

680
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,880
needs a reservation for and Dorothy is just in a soft voice replies.

681
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,640
Oh, we don't really know.

682
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Can we just stay as long as we like a little confused based on the request?

683
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,400
The concierge lady says, oh, okay, certainly.

684
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,160
Let's start with a week and would you like a room with a restroom?

685
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,080
And Ben Levine immediately says, no, we don't want that.

686
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,800
Apparently they really were just trying to conserve money, which is understandable.

687
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,680
So a reasonable response.

688
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:48,480
And so they receive their room key and head up to the room to note because I want to talk

689
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,080
about this little after the story.

690
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:55,040
The staff recounts later that during the entire interaction between the two and the concierge,

691
00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,880
Dorothy had been standing very close behind Ben, kind of almost like hidden behind him,

692
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,000
rather quiet and shy, but excited to spend time with her lover.

693
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,120
So just keep that in mind because I kind of want your thoughts on that in a minute.

694
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,920
So now here's the weird part.

695
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Almost immediately when they walk into the room, Dorothy continuously claims to Ben that

696
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,760
she keeps hearing these voices in the walls.

697
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:21,360
Scary.

698
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:22,240
Yeah.

699
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,840
And that they're talking to her directly, but he hears nothing and he just says,

700
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,000
it's probably the neighbors talking next door.

701
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,400
It probably just sounds like they're saying your name.

702
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,520
It's nothing to worry about.

703
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,680
So they settle in.

704
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,800
Ben is, Ben was a traveling shoe salesman and Dorothy had recently been a war worker,

705
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,000
which I assume was World War Two based on the timeframe.

706
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,280
And they were beat.

707
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,200
Ben takes off his shoes and he rests on the bed while Dorothy opens the window to see the view

708
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,240
and turns to ask Ben with a smile.

709
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,560
So when are we getting married, honey?

710
00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:01,360
And then with a cute little romance film attitude says,

711
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,960
just as soon as we get established in LA and place in a get a place of our own.

712
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,240
So they both smile at one another.

713
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,200
They embrace each other.

714
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,120
They get a little freaky deaky.

715
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,040
Not the freaky deaky.

716
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,240
And everything just seems right in the world.

717
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:25,840
So days turned into weeks and they eventually fell into a routine.

718
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,520
Ben would head off to do his shoe sales while Dorothy would just stay at the hotel and often

719
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,480
walked around the hotel to keep herself active, but she cannot shake the feeling that there was

720
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:43,360
voices talking to her in the sea cells walls, but never bothered Ben with it and just continue

721
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:44,400
living her daily life.

722
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:52,240
Up until one night later that September, the same month they arrived,

723
00:27:53,120 --> 00:28:00,240
Dorothy woke up beside Ben with a tremendous pain in her stomach as she later explained to the police.

724
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,840
Claiming not knowing what was happening, she walked down to the hall to the bathroom

725
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,600
and attempted to use the toilet, but the pain just didn't stop.

726
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,520
She then lied, laid on the bathroom floor in crippling pain with only,

727
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:21,200
and sorry, within minutes, Dorothy's stress started becoming soaked in blood and as she gave birth

728
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,800
to a new burn boy.

729
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,640
Dang.

730
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:31,840
Now real quick, Marie, I want you to read this passage because I got this from the LA Times.

731
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,160
It's back dated from this time too.

732
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,440
It came out, I think like a day after the story happened.

733
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:37,840
All right.

734
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,080
Go ahead and read that.

735
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,840
Everything involved.

736
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:44,800
All right.

737
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,680
Quote, after hearing testimony that one juror later described as almost beyond belief,

738
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:58,720
a coroner's jury yesterday recommended that Dorothy Jean Purcell 19 be held to answer to a

739
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:05,360
homicide charge of allegedly throwing her newborn baby boy to his death from a high window of a

740
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:13,120
downtown hotel. What the fuck? Ms. Purcell, formerly a war worker, was arrested Wednesday and held

741
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,320
in the prison ward of General Hospital on a district attorney's murder complaint after the

742
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,920
baby's body was found on the roof of a building adjacent to the hotel at 640 South Main Street.

743
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:31,280
Testifying at the inquest, police officer Stuart Jones said the young woman had for

744
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:38,240
several days occupied a hotel room with Ben Levine, 38 year old grown man, shoe salesman.

745
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:44,320
She awakened. Jones quoted her as saying early one morning to learn the baby was about to be

746
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:50,400
born, not desiring to awaken her companion. The officer related, she went to the hotel restroom

747
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,920
on the same floor and there delivered the baby alone, believing the child dead. She threw it

748
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,160
out the window and returned to the room, never telling Levine of the incident according to

749
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:06,880
testimony. County autopsy surgeon Frank R. Webb, however, declared the baby was born alive,

750
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,240
his lungs having filled with air. I mean, even if the baby was born like dead, I think throwing it

751
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,680
out of the window is like very inhumane. Bitch, you cannot eat your baby out of window. Even if it's

752
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:26,880
dead, like, I don't like, maybe like take it to the hospital, call 911 or like. There's other options.

753
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,960
There's other options around. Oh my God, actually is that like, I feel like there's so many more

754
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,440
plausible way than throwing her throwing it out of the fucking window. Oh my God.

755
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,960
So yeah, thinking and the crazy part is the noise of something landing on the roof next

756
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,840
on the next building was so loud that the

757
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,160
bystander from below looked up and experienced just what happened.

758
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,800
And they were so frantic that she just saw something that just happened that they called 911.

759
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,680
And so that's how the whole thing is came. Oh yeah, you see a flying baby flying on another

760
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:08,720
roof. Like, oh, and splatter on the roof. Oh my God. Babies are like soft. Yes. This baby was

761
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:15,520
newborn. Like she just gave birth to it. It doesn't have bones. No. And like, oh, oh God.

762
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:21,520
And so according to reports, Ben had no idea that his girlfriend was pregnant and was hard

763
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,160
broken to hear what happened. Police arrested Dorothy for the murder of her newborn son,

764
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,600
but she claims she thought was still was a stillborn and she was scared to tell Ben.

765
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,120
And so the voices that she quote unquote heard her influence her to dispose of the child from the

766
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:45,600
bathroom window. Right. So Dorothy Jean, our gene parcel was charged with first degree murder.

767
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,400
And after three psych evaluations from three different psych the psychiatrist, Dorothy was

768
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:57,440
deemed mentally confused that next year in court, the jury found Dorothy personal,

769
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:03,920
not guilty of murder by reasons of insanity and sent to a psychiatric psychiatric facility where

770
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,520
she lived up the rest of her life. I mean, she does sound like she's fighting demons. She's

771
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:15,040
fighting some demons, but that's so weird. But you know what? We'll make the connection maybe in

772
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:22,720
our next episode because it's like, what is with these like voices kind of a thing? That's my thing

773
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,800
because I was just thinking about it when I was researching this something about this next case

774
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,240
that we cover next week. It's like, there's something I don't know. Let's let's make some

775
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:38,400
connections. Like let's think about it because that I'm ready. That's that's some creepy shit.

776
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,880
But no guys, just for warning, please do not eat your babies out of windows. So

777
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:53,280
Bree's like, yeah, don't do that. So next story, story number three.

778
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:03,600
This one is a little crazy to prepare yourselves. On October 12, 1962, police arrived to yet

779
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:09,920
another crime scene at the Cecil where according to LAPD, it appeared that two victims had

780
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:16,640
lead to their deaths. One a battered man and beside the man a battered woman. But for a closer

781
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,040
look from the corner, something seemed a little off about the conclusion that the two people could

782
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:29,920
just commit a suicide. So let's go to the day before this on October 11, 1962. A couple by

783
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,120
the name of Dewey Odin and his wife Pauline Odin had just arrived to the Cecil Hotel.

784
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:42,880
Amission it. You're just there. But this couple was not a happy couple. In fact, according to

785
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,560
sources, the minute they walked into the hotel, all they did was argue and bicker. After the

786
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:55,280
kinds of years I give them the two their key. What do I just call him? Dewey? I don't know why

787
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:01,680
Dewey keeps reminding me of Scream. Are you seeing Scream, right? Yes. I think his name is like Officer

788
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,560
Dewey. It is. It is. Okay. Yeah. I keep thinking about that. Okay. Anyway, sorry guys. I get a little

789
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:12,480
sidetracked. So they got their two keys. Immediately, Dewey left the hotel and did not return until

790
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:19,680
9am the next morning while Pauline went up to give to the given room. And now immediately when Dewey

791
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:25,520
walked into the room the next morning, Pauline was not happy. She had clearly been drinking that

792
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:32,320
morning and heavily while in tears pacing back and forth insisting that her husband did not love her.

793
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:40,080
So Dewey had continuously told her, you have a drinking problem and you need help. And Pauline

794
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:46,800
would then literally chuck a bottle of whiskey at him and salting or insinuating that he is what

795
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:54,800
led her to alcoholism and that he was never there for her. Dang. Dang. Which I'm sorry but I don't

796
00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:01,200
think anyone's alcohol. I don't know. I can't relate but I don't feel like someone else can make

797
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:07,680
you become an alcoholic. Maybe if you've been through trauma but whatever. Just me. So Dewey

798
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,000
feeling a little portrayed for taking care of the both of them abruptly storms out the room and

799
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,840
goes on a walk to decompress. So he claimed that he loved his life despite the marital problems

800
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:23,680
but alcoholism was just consuming her and just consuming the person he once knew. He often found

801
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,360
himself having to separate himself from Pauline until she calmed down. But little did Dewey know

802
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:38,000
this would be the last time he'd be seeing his wife because he had left her alone and Pauline

803
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,080
then pulled out a sheet of paper from the drawer and wrote you want to read this one? She wrote

804
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:50,720
Dewey I hate you. I hate everything about you. You will never care about anything or anyone besides

805
00:35:50,720 --> 00:36:01,360
money. Farewell. Yikes. A letter. A letter. Yeah. Yikes. That's pretty hard. But maybe she was spin

806
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:08,960
facts. She's but maybe we never know. But oh she then went up from the bed where she had written

807
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:16,240
the note on the nightstand. She placed the note on the pillow stumbled over to the window opened it

808
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:24,720
stepped onto the ledge and let herself fall to the ground below. But tragically prior to her fall

809
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:32,080
down below stood a man named George Gianni. A man that had been struggling from gambling addiction

810
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:38,640
and had actually had been just getting his life together until a intoxicated Pauline plummeted

811
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:47,520
right on top of her. No. Killing them both on the couch. No. I know. I'm not laughing because

812
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:55,600
it's not fun. It's not funny but I'm laughing because it's fucking crazy. What the fuck. Not her literally.

813
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,800
Fucking up someone else's life. Yeah. I know. Like she literally committed murder after death. Yeah.

814
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,160
Isn't that crazy. She literally fell on top of someone else. Now she was killing herself.

815
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:16,160
Girl. Oh my god. So she does not have good aim. No. No she does not. Girl. Like I said before.

816
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:22,320
R.I.P. Well I mean R.I.P. to them both. R.I.P to that man. I feel so. Imagine being an innocent

817
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:30,480
highstander who's getting his shit together and a woman just jumping from a window on top of you.

818
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,920
And my dad made a good point because I brought this up to him too. I was like damn did you hear

819
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,280
the story dad. He was like you know a human body weighs a lot of like a lot. Yeah especially like

820
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,960
that force. Yeah that force to fall from a window. Like do you know what floor it was. I think this

821
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:53,120
was from the very top floor. Yeah so very far drop from below. Dude. Oh I feel so bad for the guy.

822
00:37:53,120 --> 00:38:00,080
So like I said before the scene looked to police at first at first glance at least. Like I've been

823
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:06,560
joint suicide. Joint suicide. Yeah. And of course like I said the corner arrived and the scene they

824
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:12,480
noticed George's hand had still been in his pockets. I'm gonna say that again I kind of spin on the

825
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:19,360
mic. So the scene they had noticed George's hands were still in his pockets and both his

826
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:25,440
shoes were still on. So from the coroner's experience they knew it was not specifically easy or near

827
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:31,200
impossible for a suicide victim to fall from that high up with their hands in their pockets and

828
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:37,280
acknowledged that the victim's shoes were still on their feet but they're also loose and untied.

829
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,800
And they said that you know one of the shoes would have fallen off on the way down had this happened.

830
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:49,360
So the bodies like I have said were too battered for identification but the authorities traced

831
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,800
this suicide victim to one of the only open windows from above and located the suicide note

832
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:01,280
Pauline had written with blatant proof that this was a woman who was furious prior to her passing.

833
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:08,160
And the man that late dad beside her was in fact a victim in the wrong place at the wrong time.

834
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Where is her husband? Good point. So Dewey did eventually return back to the Cecil Hotel when

835
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:22,080
he saw that there was a scene and it was covered in police tape and a crack was forming because

836
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,680
remember he had gone on a walk because she had stressed him out. So he had heard onlookers

837
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:33,440
was spring that someone had jumped to their death. What is more tragic was that Dewey did not think

838
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:40,960
this was anything resorting to him or anything to do with him up until he saw a hotel staff that

839
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,960
had checked him in speaking to an officer and that hotel staff pointed directly at him. The

840
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:54,560
officer walked up and asked sir I'm sorry to ask but are you Mr. Odin? He says why yes I am

841
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:01,680
what's wrong? The officer replies I'm sorry sir but we believe one of the victims is your wife.

842
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Instantly he runs under the caution tape and pushes the officer aside and recognized at

843
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:14,880
closer glance the peach-colored pastel dress that belonged to his wife Pauline and dropped to his

844
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:22,320
knees. According to sources to this day or sorry this day what hot Dewey for years knowing that

845
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:28,080
the last time he spoke to his wife was enraged through an argument. Eventually he did get past

846
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:33,440
the grief but even beyond those years he would claim that continuously having nightmares of

847
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:42,880
watching her fall from the window of this seized a hotel. Oh so crazy. That's a heavy one. That's a

848
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:49,840
heavy one yeah. So the case of Pauline and George gave the entire central Los Angeles chills for years

849
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:57,600
after this and it was a huge story and this had been the 11th suicide since 1931. Damn. And the

850
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:04,720
evolution of how the sea silica gain is infamous name only grew worse and worse. Now we are getting

851
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:13,360
to our last story which again is a crazy one. It's a buckle in. I'm buckled. Buckled. Sorry guys I need

852
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,840
a drink real quick. He's drinking a whole bottle of wine. Y'all can't see it but okay. I'm drinking

853
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,400
a whole bottle of the witches for that. That we've had since he started this show. No for real though.

854
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,120
I think that's hilarious. Why doesn't it go bad though right? It doesn't. Yeah it's good. I don't know.

855
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,960
I don't think I think it was bad if he opened it after a while. I think we're good though. It's

856
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:39,120
been like but we don't talk about it. Okay. Maybe two months. Maybe two months. So this is a case of

857
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Goldie Osgood aka Pigeon Goldie. This case begins in the summer of 1958 with a sweet lady. Oh

858
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,160
so cute. She's like my little hoodie. Oh she's good. So let me keep going. Sorry.

859
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:06,320
All right. Our ADHD today guys. Oh my god. Through the roof. Okay. Sorry guys. Okay. Anyways.

860
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:14,800
This case began since summer of 1958 with a sweet old lady roughly between the age of 1670 by the

861
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:21,760
name of Goldie Osgood. We love her. She is amazing. She's a sweetie. Now that summer of 58 Goldie had

862
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:27,920
just moved to the Cecil Hotel as the Cecil had just started began accepting people to lease rooms

863
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,720
since obviously throughout the years the Cecil had just tarnished the reputation with all these

864
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:38,080
things going on and Goldie had heard the reports of the hotel's dark history but that did not stop

865
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:43,120
her because Goldie is a bad bitch. Queen. She's a queen and she didn't let anything stand in her

866
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:48,880
way. So she recently retired as a telephone operator and wanted to start a new life in Los

867
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:54,480
Angeles. She began spending a lot of her time downtown in Los Angeles meeting new people

868
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,960
and she eventually found happiness in feeding pigeons since the nickname her friends gave her

869
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:05,840
pitch and Goldie. Love. That's so wholesome. It's so cute. Okay. So it was just a calming

870
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:12,000
activity for her and she was like I said a sweet lady and she even gave food to the homeless every

871
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:20,480
now and then which is just so like so sweet. I just I can't get past that. So from what such

872
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:26,640
as share she often wore a blue Los Angeles Dodger baseball cap and would grab her little brown paper

873
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:32,240
bag with bird seeds and head down to Pershing Square in the middle of downtown LA and talk to

874
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:38,800
her friends as she had made and feed the birds. She often made her she she often made this her

875
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:46,080
daily routine for the next six years while living at the Cecil and there had been six years six years

876
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:52,800
she lived at the Cecil and there had never been any complaints about Goldie and people loved her.

877
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,760
They knew her in and out of the hotel and people just loved her presence. She actually had a little

878
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,920
money and she was just on a fixed income but despite all of this she just wore a smile all the time.

879
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:09,600
She was really living a sweet life as Zack and Cody. She was living in a hotel. She was living

880
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,000
a hotel and she was living her best life which is crazy. I feel like that'd be sick because you

881
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,080
don't have to clean. You don't have to clean. That's a good point. Like you clean a little bit but

882
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,040
like but like isn't that like even if you have made it like I'm pretty sure there would still be

883
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,200
hotel maze. Yeah yeah you're right. Good point. I actually don't know how that works but I think

884
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:33,520
there would be. Yeah yeah yeah if anyone lives in a hotel as a tenant let us know that's interesting.

885
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Yeah I'm curious. I'm curious. So on June 4th 1964 Goldie woke up bright and early got dressed,

886
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,160
grabbed her brown paper bag with her bird seeds and headed down to her 10 mile walk to the

887
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:54,720
Persian square or Persian square sorry. She fed the birds, met up with her friends, she had lunch

888
00:44:54,720 --> 00:45:00,560
and then she returned home later that day. It was around the evening time a little before 7 p.m.

889
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:07,840
to wash up and prepare for dinner and bed. Approximately at 7 15 p.m. a male employee there

890
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:14,160
was no name I just it was just saying male employee for all the resources I found was delivering phone

891
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:20,880
books to the tenants when he gets to the Goldie Goldie's room and knocks. To his surprise the door

892
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:27,520
was slightly cracked open. The employee was more so shocked because the door had been unlocked

893
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:33,360
and he knew Goldie a little bit so it was very weird to see because he knew that she was kind of

894
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:39,280
personal and cautious beyond just being a very nice person which I would be too and so he calls

895
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:46,320
for her and gets no answer. It's dead silent in the room and in the hallway. He then pushes the

896
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:54,560
door open to reveal a dead Mrs. Goldie. She had been brutally murdered. Her body was stabbed

897
00:45:54,560 --> 00:46:00,160
multiple times. Her body was severely beaten and her underwear had been pulled down around her

898
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,680
calves indicating that she had in fact been raped. The employee was actually a long time

899
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:12,000
friend of hers so this hit hard for him but what really hurt was that her eyes were still wide

900
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,840
open and her head was slanted slightly to the side so when he walked in it kind of appeared that

901
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:26,080
she was looking directly at him. That is it's chilling it's so chilling. So within minutes of

902
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:33,440
dialing police they arrive at the scene to a crime of brutality. Senior homicide detective at the

903
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:39,360
LAPD at the time detective Peter Towns was assigned the call. After arriving and scoping up the scene

904
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,240
he noticed her blue Los Angeles Dodgers baseball cap was wiped beside her thigh. Her shirt had

905
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:49,920
appeared to be torn and was lying underneath her midsection and pants are pure torn as well but

906
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:56,320
were on the bed above her. The table in the room was knocked over books were thrown everywhere and

907
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:02,160
she had fresh cuts on her arm indicating that Goldie was trying to fight back. A bad bitch once

908
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:09,200
again fighting back. Stabs would have been near her left breast and her left rib cage and she

909
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,080
received beating mostly to her face and neck and a small hand towel near her neck had been trenched

910
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:20,400
and bled. From the messy display before detective Peter Towns it seemed as if this had been a

911
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,800
robbery slash raping but it appeared that whoever did this knew Goldie and did a really good job

912
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,880
of cleaning up any evidence from the scene. So detective Peter Towns collaborated with other

913
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:37,520
detectives to get to the bottom of this murder and after asking residents and staff that they knew

914
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,560
or that she knew at the time they went down to Pritching Square where Goldie was known to be

915
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:51,200
every day. After asking several witnesses they had no luck until one of the officers looked up

916
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:57,440
and saw what seemed to be a man wearing a white t-shirt with large amount of blood stains on them.

917
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:03,920
Okay he's down why wouldn't he change? Right okay thank you. So when the two made eye contact

918
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:10,320
he instantly darted for the other way. Eventually the chase ended with the officer tackling him down

919
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:16,400
and asking dude why are your clothes trenched in blood and why did you run away when we spotted you.

920
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:24,800
He says I'm scared. He says scared of light. That I get caught. I should have not have done it.

921
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:34,480
I just snapped. He then asked where did the blood come from and he says her. Detective says where.

922
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:42,240
He says the hotel. So immediately police arrest this man under the first degree

923
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:50,160
murder of Miss Goldie Osgood. They got lucky. But wait. Oh. The man had to had not directly

924
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:58,160
confessed to who he did this to. So this man after tracking down who he was was 29 year old

925
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:07,680
Jack was a liner. So DNA in the 1980s was still our early concepts but they did use it for this case

926
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,800
to test the blood on his shirt to see if he could get a potential match of the murder of Miss Goldie.

927
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:19,520
But after 10 days of waiting for results the DNA results came back and conclusive.

928
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:27,680
This guy did not kill Goldie Osgood. Later finding out that Jack was the man who got arrested

929
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:34,400
did slap stab a woman though it was ironically a homeless woman right near the hotel and apparently

930
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,520
they had gotten just into an disagreement. What about I'm not sure but the homeless

931
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:46,960
woman did end up being okay and surviving. Oh good. So that's good. So this put investigators at

932
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:53,680
square one and after reexamining the crime scene and after months and months and months of looking

933
00:49:53,680 --> 00:50:02,000
at the scene there were no suspects no further leads and no one's stepping forward. So the death

934
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:14,720
of Goody Osgood went cold and her murder is still a mystery to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

935
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,800
Yeah. I feel bad for Adi. I mean Miss Goldie because she's not like a great woman and Jesus

936
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:28,720
Christ. I'm upset too. Like maybe one day we'll have justice for who did this to her but this

937
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:36,480
doesn't help that the hotel has been refurbished so many times. So that scene is gone well and gone

938
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:43,120
and this happened back way back ago. So but yeah those are the four topics that we have gone over

939
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:52,000
today for the Cecil Hotel. Crazy crazy stories and this is only the surface of it because like I said

940
00:50:52,000 --> 00:51:00,320
next week we are covering at least at least lamb and that alone is such a crazy case that it needed

941
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:06,000
its own topic and we won't tell you guys what the other two topics are but they do have something to

942
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:11,120
do with the Cecil Hotel. So this entire month it's a little Christmas present for you guys on the

943
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:18,160
Cecil and I'm just really happy to be covering this one because I've been wanting to cover this

944
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:24,240
for months now and now that we're friendly at it we're gonna do our best to cover it. So that's

945
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:31,280
that. So those are just a just a handful of stories from the Cecil Hotel guys. You can definitely

946
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,080
go and research so many more because this is only the surface of all the things that happened at the

947
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:42,640
Cecil. It's kind of insane. I don't know what's going on at this hotel but something sinister goes down.

948
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:51,680
I'm having a sneeze time. No you're gonna try to be quiet for a minute to see you're gonna

949
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:57,120
sneeze to edit that out but you're good you didn't have anything. But yeah so guys yeah

950
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:03,040
definitely look that up it's really interesting we are gonna cover at least lamb and that's

951
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:12,000
kind of come out next Friday. By that time I will be in New York so that'll be fun. I'm excited for

952
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:21,600
that trip. In New York. Where can Boos gonna amaze you there's nothing he can't do. Here it is. Okay

953
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,680
don't sue me for selling that song. It's not my song. Oh yeah through that. I don't have copyright.

954
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:35,520
It's not our song. Don't sue me Amisha. It's not our song. So where? Okay I think I'm dying. Okay

955
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:42,240
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956
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957
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958
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Which is crazy because I actually we have gotten one email so far from another podcaster who is

959
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960
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961
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962
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964
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As freaking always feel free to DM us any stories anything at all case suggestions paranormal

965
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966
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967
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968
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969
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do that listener stories as well I think that will be a cute thing to do next year I think there's

970
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something we'll get into so hopefully next year we'll have some ready the more they rank up the

971
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more the more we'll be able to tell them so yeah so we'll get that rolling but as always thank you

972
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:36,560
so much for supporting listening sharing telling your friends we're definitely excited to see where

973
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,680
it goes yeah I think we're getting better and better every time yeah the numbers can only go up

974
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,400
yeah and I am sorry because I have gotten my meant to say this to you earlier but I have gotten so

975
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:53,440
many inquests to do more paranormal I promise you guys we are going to do more paranormal our

976
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,320
first story next year it's going to be a paranormal story and it's going to be so good we already have

977
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:04,720
that planned out for you guys so yeah we've got that dark for you guys I promise you we're going

978
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:11,200
to do more coming up and we have really cool stuff coming up for you guys that I'm so excited to do

979
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:20,160
so yeah yeah yeah let's let's get it popping you all excited get excited get your popcorn if you're

980
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:27,200
driving and you listen to us don't turn up louder but yeah don't get in a car accident um do not

981
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,680
eat your babies out of windows yeah thoughts and prayers to everybody we talk about yeah

982
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:38,480
thought about yeah seriously yeah every tragedy our sole reason being here and telling these stories

983
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:46,240
to you guys is because one we do like true crime to these stories needs to be told more than once

984
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,600
they need to be hurt more than once and I hope that our stories at least are told from different

985
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,160
side of things because I knew that you know a lot of podcasters out there that are true crime

986
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:01,920
podcasters and always sharing these kind of things I try to aim for a little bit of difference for

987
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:07,360
them so hopefully we're doing that and I think you guys are gonna be very happy with what we have

988
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:15,360
coming out soon for you guys so get excited yes with that we will see you when the light goes out

989
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:39,280
goodbye goodbye