I'm Kendall and I'm Bree and this is When the Light Goes Out.
So this is the time around the year where everyone is posting their top 10 rankings for like other analytics for music.
Oh, the Spotify Raps.
Apple Raps, whatever you call them.
Mine kind of did me dirty.
I was like, oh, I'm going to get all these different pop music.
I'm sorry, not pop music.
All these different rock and alternative music, top hits and everything.
And then Spotify is like, nah, you gay.
So they gave me.
I think what am I like Beyonce, Nicki Minaj, Mac and the Stallion.
What are you called?
Maybe the gay icons.
Gay icons.
Yeah.
So it's cool though.
It's cool.
I'm mad because, okay, don't roast me people, but I prefer Apple Music.
Okay.
I do too.
I have both.
Okay.
I think it always is like Spotify is better and I just like I prefer Apple's layout man.
I do too.
And I'm not one to like discover music, which I know like it's the main thing about Spotify.
Like I just like listen to the songs.
That's my thing.
I like the layout of Apple more, but Spotify has good like, like if you're listening to
random music, yeah, discover and stuff.
And I also like, I just figured out the Spotify is a thing where they can play music and it
kind of like, you can kind of see them into each other.
So like when it ends, you can do that.
Yeah, you can.
Just learn how to do that.
Yeah.
But I have, like I'm saying, I have Apple Music and I've been trying to get my like replay
to work and I can never fricking every year.
I can never get it to work.
And I don't know if I have this exact problem every year, but this year it's been like I'll
sign in or whatever.
And then it'll basically tell me to like subscribe, but I already have a subscription and I'm
using Apple Music just fine.
Like look, so it'll say this and then if you hit not now, it just takes you right back
to not that, but it's just saying, yeah, it's like, it takes me right back to this.
And then if you hit, hold on, we get it to load.
If you hit the other button, like the try now button, it like makes me do a subscription.
So I was like, okay, well, maybe I need to like renew my subscription.
So I went and I did a whole thing with college student like this, not whatever, since I'm
still in school through Unidays and whatever.
And it's like, you already have an active subscription.
What?
That's weird.
Huh.
So it's like a freaking Apple replay.
Oh my gosh.
So I can't really see it.
And it's every freaking year I have a problem with that every year.
And I'm like, what?
Like what's the issue?
I don't get it.
What?
They are cheating you on that.
Yeah.
That's like the main, I feel like that's the main thing with like with with like the year
ending.
It's like you have.
Yeah.
And everyone's like posting or like, yeah, I listened to this or this is my top artist.
And I'm really curious because I mean, I am very like, I'm not, I guess kind of,
I'm kind of specific with like the music I listen to when I really like something, like
I really like something.
Yeah.
So, fuck.
No, you're good.
So I'm sure that I have like, like I'm sure I can guess like kind of what my top songs
or my top artists are or whatever.
But like I want to actually see what they actually are.
But I always shocks me because I swear, no, you're good.
She keeps hitting her little, her boom, her soft, her softbox thing.
Yeah.
I'm so sorry.
Wait, hold on.
Let's stop real quick and make sure we're still good.
Hold on.
Okay.
This time and I have to renew it, which I don't know if I've renewed it, but normally
it'll yell at me like, hey, you haven't done it.
Oh yeah.
Do it.
Yeah.
Now we're going to figure that out later.
We're back guys.
Sorry.
We had to adjust her mic a little bit, but we're good.
We're good.
And what's the problem?
Am I the drama?
I am the drama.
I'm the villain.
I wouldn't want it any other way.
I am the drama.
I am the drama right now because my eye is so watery.
I've been wearing my fake eyelashes all day and for whatever reason, they've been irritating
my eye all day and they normally never do.
Missed the glue maybe?
I don't know.
So I ripped them off my eyeballs.
So now I'm recording this with Kendall with naked eyes.
I don't even have an eyeliner.
Your eyelashes, I mean, your eyebrows look really good though.
My eyebrows look so much better when I have a beat.
Beat face and my lashes.
Because my lashes are really short right now.
Because they're on the way.
My natural lashes are so short and I prefer how I look with my fake ones.
No, it's okay.
You're so pretty either way.
I love you.
My fake lashes.
Oh, and let's manifest it now guys.
We will be on everyone's top 10 ranking for most listen podcasts next year.
Let's make it happen.
Make it happen.
We're manifesting that now.
Let's do it.
We're gonna come back to episode 14 and be like, we did that shit, didn't we?
We did that.
And I'm also so glad you're feeling better.
You sound amazing.
Oh my god, I feel so much better than last week.
I was so sad.
I was actually dead on the ground last week.
I don't even know how I worked.
The whole week I was exhausted.
You put yourself through it last week.
You were doing really well because you went to a wedding and then you were working and
then it got time for school.
Yeah.
Everything.
But the thing was though is that after work I was exhausted.
And after like the wedding exhausted.
Like after everything else flat.
I can tell the day we were gonna record.
We were ready to record but I can tell Be was just not.
She was trying.
And was that a day that I worked too?
Yeah, and did work that day.
And after work and I was fucking exhausted.
I could tell.
I was like, I was really pulling through though.
We started filming and everything.
We got like a little ways in.
We did.
And one time it came home.
It's like timing you just wanna take over.
Yeah, I felt bad.
I love you Simon.
He did great.
He did a good job.
Everyone liked him so I'm like good job.
Good job.
Yeah, she slept the whole time.
We love her though.
Not my proudest moment.
It's okay.
I had a slight cough earlier this week and the moment I felt I was like hell no.
I'm good though I promise.
I took a lot of medicine.
I'm medicated.
I'm going to New York next week so I've been trying to have my best.
I'm working.
Yeah.
I'm working.
Eat lunch and chat.
I'm working.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I love that.
Oh my god.
My neighbors are probably like shut the fuck up and shut the fuck in there.
They're smoking weed they're fine.
Oh yeah they're fine.
Shout out apartment 201.
203.
It'd be so funny if they were listening to this and even though you were there they're
like oh my God they're right above us.
Yeah, hey guys.
Oh and last week I, me and Simon had talked about briefly a lot of, I was used to being
a lot of the shit that has been going on around the world.
We kind of talked about it too before we stopped recording.
And I was just going to say, there's no update so far on that stabbing that happened
at the University of Idaho with those first students.
So tragic, still so sad to even think about.
I thought they had like a suspect.
I think they do.
I think they do have a suspect, but I think they're just holding him.
Nothing at all.
I know they've been being like really strategic about letting information out
and stuff.
So hopefully.
Yeah, maybe they are keeping things closer to the chest and they do know.
So hopefully that's actually doing good.
I just want to put, yeah, I want to get those kids justice because
oh, that's so shitty.
I feel so, it just feels so bad for them.
And then we have scheduled for the first time ever the whole month of December.
We got everything scheduled so we have episodes ready.
We haven't done them yet, but we know what we're doing.
So I'm really excited because for the most parts we are pretty much covering the Cecil Hotel
and everything around it.
And I'm sure by now you've seen the title of this episode, which is
Bad Times at the Cecil Hotel.
Tell them what it's the playoff of.
So this is the playoff of the movie.
The title.
Oh, the title.
Yeah, the playoff of Bad Times at Al Royale, which if you guys have never seen that movie,
that movie is so amazing.
There are so many good starts in it.
I think it came out like a couple of years ago.
And yes, just went to it.
I'm sure it's not that much money.
Just do it.
It's great.
I love it.
Do it.
I haven't even watched it.
I guess I'm going to have to.
No, you need.
Oh my God.
I literally will come over and we can watch it because that movie is amazing.
And I think I love it.
Deal.
Yes.
Hell yeah.
And yeah, it really is.
There's only been bad times at the Cecil Hotel.
So I've been wanting to do this and cover this topic for a long time.
And so.
Cecil Hotel, what's the word I'm looking for?
Like enigma?
Enigma, yes.
Everything about this.
Is that the word?
Yeah, I think it's a good word to use.
Yeah.
Enigma.
Everything about this hotel is just pure evil.
Did you see that they, okay.
So like I randomly see stuff about it on TikTok because there's like a parking
center across the street or something.
And they painted it.
They painted like the original Cecil Hotel painting that was on the side.
That's like.
What?
That is so interesting.
They like painted it white.
I was like.
White.
Why?
They thought.
Why?
Oh my God.
Like literally why?
Oh my God.
I don't like that.
Because it's not being called the Cecil Hotel anymore, but that's like literally like.
I'm sorry, but that's part of its history.
It is part of its history.
Honestly, I know it's brought a lot of shitty shit to light and recover a lot of that.
In a minute, but it's just a landmark for a lot of shit that's happened.
And yeah, it's not in the best area ever because it is sitting in skit row.
But it's like, I don't know.
It has so much history to it.
And it's kind of crazy that it's just there.
I don't know.
I just think about like America versus like Europe, for instance.
And I think about how like we tear down and rebuild a lot.
Yeah.
Right.
Whereas Europe most of the time just has like a lot of structure that has been there
for years and has history.
And something about that just really is just interesting to me.
So I don't know.
I didn't realize that the Cecil Hotel was right in skit row.
Like it's literally right there.
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah.
Which makes it worse.
Throughout this month.
Yeah.
We'll figure out that a lot of shit and a lot of people have been in that place.
Oh yeah.
I know it's been big for famous people too.
For famous.
Yeah.
You're right.
I don't want to get ahead of myself.
No, it's okay.
You are serial killers too.
Yeah.
So yeah.
This month we will pretty much.
So I won't say like every single story we're going to cover this month is specifically about
the Cecil Hotel.
But as we get later and later into the month, a lot of these stories are going to have some
kind of attachment to it.
So I think that was really cool.
I think I kind of worked really hard this week trying to structure how this this month is going to be
centered around this kind of theme.
So I think that'll be a fun little thing for us to do.
And so today we have we're doing something a little different.
So we are talking about the Cecil Hotel and we're going to be talking about the Cecil Hotel
and four different cases, short mini cases.
So buckle your seatbelts.
Buckle your seatbelts because whoa, we have we have some crazy ones in here.
So I'm excited to get to get going here.
So yes.
You ready, Boo and Bunny?
Yes, Boo and Bunny.
Boo is being great today.
Bunny is being great today.
Well, Boo is not being great today.
She's being good right now.
She's being a little something earlier, but it's okay.
She's back to being okay.
So all right.
They're ready.
All right.
We're all ready.
Y'all ready?
Oh, you ready?
Y'all ready for this?
All right, let's get down to business.
Let's get serious.
All right.
So in a 56 Bach radius in downtown Los Angeles, California, known in the area of Skid Row,
sits a now vacant building at 640 Street, mean, oh, sorry, 640 South Main Street,
once known as the Cecil Hotel.
Bacon.
Bacon as of right now.
I thought they were remodeling.
Is that why it's vacant?
It's vacant.
Yeah.
But they're remodeling.
They are remodeling and they're trying to
to bring it back.
And make it nice.
And should we just tell them?
Let's just tell them.
Okay, we can tell them.
Yes, let's tell them.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Well, what do we tell them?
So next episode, we are doing.
Alisa Lamb.
The Alisa Lamb case.
Yes, we have to, right?
I mean, it's weird.
That's a really long one.
It's a big one.
Yeah.
So I felt like that needed its own separate case and everything to it.
So I'm very excited.
We were going to cover that next week.
If you guys don't know about it, don't look it up.
Just keep it.
Don't spoil it.
Don't spoil it for yourself.
Please just keep it vacant.
Not anything.
Just don't.
Just don't look it up.
But it is a crazy case.
And that's.
It's a very mysterious case.
I think it's a very spooky one too.
So I think this episode will definitely set the foundation
with all these stories we're going to tell you guys.
And we just hope you guys like it.
So yes.
So like I said,
this building sits at 640 South Main Street,
once known as the CESA Hotel.
Honestly, it's changed its name a couple times,
but we know it by the CESA.
I'm just going to always be the CESA, honestly.
And the infamous hotel was founded in 1920s
in the 1920s by William Banks Hanner,
Charles L. Dix and Robert L.
Sorry, Robert H. Chops,
being a hotel attendant for business travelers,
social elites,
and tourists.
I think that's the most hotels try to be.
And then the architecture that this hotel first had
was just immaculate.
It had been done by architect Lloyd Lester Smith,
who was rightly known at the time as a local architect.
And at this time,
he had designed several commercial and government buildings
throughout the 1920s.
The construction of this hotel costed approximately
$1.5 million to complete just alone
and was completed with 14 floors and 700 rooms.
That's a lot of money,
but I also feel like it's not that much money.
Probably not that much money for an upscale hotel
or therefore it was supposed to be, but...
What were they trying to make an upscale hotel
in Skid Row for?
Well, at the time, and we'll get to this...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When was it built?
It was built in the 1920s.
Okay, yeah, never mind.
Never mind. Yeah, like 1924.
Yeah, it wasn't bad yet.
It wasn't bad yet.
My critical thinking and listening skills
are not very great.
No, you are critical.
Worth another shift before this.
Oh, it's also another late night when the light goes out.
I think we like...
We can come attached to our late night stuff,
but it's okay because, you know, we flourish.
We also digress.
So, like I said, the construction of this hotel
costed approximately 1.5 million,
and it was completed with 14 floors and 700 rooms,
which are a lot of rooms.
Shit ton of rooms.
That's a lot of rooms.
Yeah, oh my god.
I don't know many hotels that do...
I guess, yeah.
No, there's like, yeah.
I think you have like Las Vegas.
They have millions.
But I feel like for 1920s,
like I feel like that's big.
That's a lot.
The architecture of that place is...
It's huge.
Yeah.
And so, inside this hotel was a full marble lobby
and a huge Grand Terracotta entryway.
Oh, sorry, what do you want to say?
Just saying beautiful.
Beautiful.
Love it.
We love marble.
And like I said, the huge Grand Terracotta entryway
with lavish stained glass windows
and a wooden polished coated stairway
leading up to the Barker Brother furnished rooms.
Now, at the time, the Barker Brothers
was a very high-embranage retailer in LA.
So, they kind of flourished everything
or furnished everything, I should say.
So, the rooms at the time with shared bath
what cost a dollar and fifty cents a night.
How expensive?
So, that today would be $25.47.
That's still nothing.
Still nothing.
A room with a private toilet what cost two dollars a night,
which today calculates to literally
$33.96.
$33.
In a room with a private bathroom
what cost two dollars a night
with today's paraded cost
amounts to $42.44.
So, not too bad, not too shabby.
The hotel officially opened December 20th, 1927
with in just a year,
the Cecil became a prime focus of the LA life.
Yeah.
Huge.
Tourists love visiting this hotel
with it being right next to the,
or sorry, right in the middle of Los Angeles
and having with elite just what rent rooms out like crazy.
And for the next couple of years,
the hotel just flourished.
It did so well.
Until the US stock market crashed
igniting the Great Depression.
Live, laugh, love.
Live, laugh, love, that thing.
That great.
That terrible thing.
I feel like every, I'm not every story,
but I feel like so many of our old cases
have started with the Great Depression.
It's always the Great Depression.
The Depression, that shit.
So jobs became scarce, obviously.
Business closed, wages dropped,
and overall everything just started going to shit.
Obviously this really hurt the hotel
because no one could afford to stay in hotels
unless you had money and lots of it.
And then downtown LA area would then
kind of start growing with more and more crime.
And that's when we start getting skit row.
Cause shit just went flat.
So this is really when the hotel
just also started getting its name tarnished
and a long line of terrible events
just started eventually wearing its ugly hat.
Today, the Cesar Hotel is infamously known
for its missing persons cases,
suicides, overdoses, reports of sexual assault,
murders, and serial killers.
A whole lot of tragedy.
A nice little bouquet of trouble.
Yeah, no kidding.
We will just cover and go into four cases
that gave this hotel its terrible and haunting reputation.
So on November 13th, 1931,
James Willys paid to rent a room
for one week after traveling from Chicago.
Staff and guests would recount seeing James
and never thinking much of him
other than the ordinary, well-dressed gentleman.
He generally would come and go throughout the week for work,
but would never bring visitors around
and just seem rather quiet into himself.
But one day on November 19th, just five days later,
a maid came to his room for housekeeping.
She knocked.
No answer.
She knocked a couple more times.
Still nothing.
She reported nothing out of the ordinary
and just figured he just might be gone for the day.
So she grabs her master key from her apron
and then lets herself in.
And as she does, she walks in and sees
James Willys sprout out on a twin bed
that had gone through heavy rigor mortis.
No.
No. So slight note, heavy, sorry,
rigor mortis is just the siphoning of joints
in the muscles of the body,
and it happens a few hours after death.
It's kind of like, I'm sorry, you guys have seen
my row kill and it's all stiff and shit.
Yeah, that's it.
So immediately the maid dials police,
by the way, her name was Susan, Susan Quitt.
Of course Susan Quitt.
I don't blame her.
After all the stuff that Susan's probably heard.
Oh, oh yeah, seriously though.
And the police scoped up the scene
and saw no signs of first entry,
no signs of robbery or foul play whatsoever,
and no suicide note had been left to help the investigators
understand what the hell happened to James Willys.
But what they did find were several manuscript pills
in a vest pocket,
and police did not even investigate what these pills actually were.
They just automatically assumed that it was poison.
I'm so sick of shoddy police work.
Shoddy police work and wait till we get to our other cases
this month with the LA police.
So they literally just looked at him and they said,
yep, he poisoned himself.
And in the early 1900s, poison was a leading cause of suicide
versus other forms of ending anyone's life.
So I understand it, but spoiler, he did commit suicide.
But despite that, you are an investigator, investigate.
Like don't just look at a course.
I'm gonna assume.
Yeah, don't assume.
Don't look at it and call it as you see it, like investigate.
But the pills weren't even all that they found
because in James's trouser pocket,
they found three checks all made out to a Mrs. MC Morton.
Random, right?
Yeah.
Well, come to find out.
The man's alias was James Willys,
but his real name was W.K. Noran.
And prior to his death,
he had been reported missing from his home
in Manhattan Beach.
So he was not from Chicago.
And he had left his wife, changed his name,
so he wouldn't be found and moved away to escape his worries.
But clearly his worries caught up to him.
And based on police reports,
he his wife thinks that he ended his life
because of the grief that came out of the Great Depression.
So clearly the Great Depression put a lot of people
in some shit, which I feel so bad.
So it's unfortunate.
It's so unfortunate.
And it's just like that.
That one is one of the more simple suicide ones.
But wait till we get to this one.
This one's a little off there.
That's the piece, my man.
No, it's the piece, my man.
So next case, September of 1944,
a couple by the name of Dorothy Jean Purcell,
age 19, and then Levine, age 38, walks into the Cecil.
Hold up.
19 and 30.
Yeah, I thought you would catch that.
Yeah.
All right.
You know, I'm not going to say much, but uh.
No, no, say a lot.
That's very good age gap.
That's a that's one of those.
That's almost 20 year age gap.
That's a yeah, that's a huge gap.
13.
That's 20, right?
Almost.
I think that's almost 20.
Yeah.
My physicians, you tell us.
I'm not smart.
I never claimed to be.
I was 38 versus I'm just not good at math.
So that's what that is.
Well, she's almost.
Oh, good job.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's that's a listen, y'all.
Once again, work this ship before this half asleep.
I know I'm stupid.
You're not stupid.
We're just tired.
I get it.
All right.
They got me 38 and 19 year old walking to a hotel.
What's an ongoing joke?
So they check out for a long period of time or they want to at least
check out.
Yeah.
Oh, check in.
Sorry.
Thank you.
So the desk lady by the name of Miss Wellworth request some form of time frame because a couple
needs a reservation for and Dorothy is just in a soft voice replies.
Oh, we don't really know.
Can we just stay as long as we like a little confused based on the request?
The concierge lady says, oh, okay, certainly.
Let's start with a week and would you like a room with a restroom?
And Ben Levine immediately says, no, we don't want that.
Apparently they really were just trying to conserve money, which is understandable.
So a reasonable response.
And so they receive their room key and head up to the room to note because I want to talk
about this little after the story.
The staff recounts later that during the entire interaction between the two and the concierge,
Dorothy had been standing very close behind Ben, kind of almost like hidden behind him,
rather quiet and shy, but excited to spend time with her lover.
So just keep that in mind because I kind of want your thoughts on that in a minute.
So now here's the weird part.
Almost immediately when they walk into the room, Dorothy continuously claims to Ben that
she keeps hearing these voices in the walls.
Scary.
Yeah.
And that they're talking to her directly, but he hears nothing and he just says,
it's probably the neighbors talking next door.
It probably just sounds like they're saying your name.
It's nothing to worry about.
So they settle in.
Ben is, Ben was a traveling shoe salesman and Dorothy had recently been a war worker,
which I assume was World War Two based on the timeframe.
And they were beat.
Ben takes off his shoes and he rests on the bed while Dorothy opens the window to see the view
and turns to ask Ben with a smile.
So when are we getting married, honey?
And then with a cute little romance film attitude says,
just as soon as we get established in LA and place in a get a place of our own.
So they both smile at one another.
They embrace each other.
They get a little freaky deaky.
Not the freaky deaky.
And everything just seems right in the world.
So days turned into weeks and they eventually fell into a routine.
Ben would head off to do his shoe sales while Dorothy would just stay at the hotel and often
walked around the hotel to keep herself active, but she cannot shake the feeling that there was
voices talking to her in the sea cells walls, but never bothered Ben with it and just continue
living her daily life.
Up until one night later that September, the same month they arrived,
Dorothy woke up beside Ben with a tremendous pain in her stomach as she later explained to the police.
Claiming not knowing what was happening, she walked down to the hall to the bathroom
and attempted to use the toilet, but the pain just didn't stop.
She then lied, laid on the bathroom floor in crippling pain with only,
and sorry, within minutes, Dorothy's stress started becoming soaked in blood and as she gave birth
to a new burn boy.
Dang.
Now real quick, Marie, I want you to read this passage because I got this from the LA Times.
It's back dated from this time too.
It came out, I think like a day after the story happened.
All right.
Go ahead and read that.
Everything involved.
All right.
Quote, after hearing testimony that one juror later described as almost beyond belief,
a coroner's jury yesterday recommended that Dorothy Jean Purcell 19 be held to answer to a
homicide charge of allegedly throwing her newborn baby boy to his death from a high window of a
downtown hotel. What the fuck? Ms. Purcell, formerly a war worker, was arrested Wednesday and held
in the prison ward of General Hospital on a district attorney's murder complaint after the
baby's body was found on the roof of a building adjacent to the hotel at 640 South Main Street.
Testifying at the inquest, police officer Stuart Jones said the young woman had for
several days occupied a hotel room with Ben Levine, 38 year old grown man, shoe salesman.
She awakened. Jones quoted her as saying early one morning to learn the baby was about to be
born, not desiring to awaken her companion. The officer related, she went to the hotel restroom
on the same floor and there delivered the baby alone, believing the child dead. She threw it
out the window and returned to the room, never telling Levine of the incident according to
testimony. County autopsy surgeon Frank R. Webb, however, declared the baby was born alive,
his lungs having filled with air. I mean, even if the baby was born like dead, I think throwing it
out of the window is like very inhumane. Bitch, you cannot eat your baby out of window. Even if it's
dead, like, I don't like, maybe like take it to the hospital, call 911 or like. There's other options.
There's other options around. Oh my God, actually is that like, I feel like there's so many more
plausible way than throwing her throwing it out of the fucking window. Oh my God.
So yeah, thinking and the crazy part is the noise of something landing on the roof next
on the next building was so loud that the
bystander from below looked up and experienced just what happened.
And they were so frantic that she just saw something that just happened that they called 911.
And so that's how the whole thing is came. Oh yeah, you see a flying baby flying on another
roof. Like, oh, and splatter on the roof. Oh my God. Babies are like soft. Yes. This baby was
newborn. Like she just gave birth to it. It doesn't have bones. No. And like, oh, oh God.
And so according to reports, Ben had no idea that his girlfriend was pregnant and was hard
broken to hear what happened. Police arrested Dorothy for the murder of her newborn son,
but she claims she thought was still was a stillborn and she was scared to tell Ben.
And so the voices that she quote unquote heard her influence her to dispose of the child from the
bathroom window. Right. So Dorothy Jean, our gene parcel was charged with first degree murder.
And after three psych evaluations from three different psych the psychiatrist, Dorothy was
deemed mentally confused that next year in court, the jury found Dorothy personal,
not guilty of murder by reasons of insanity and sent to a psychiatric psychiatric facility where
she lived up the rest of her life. I mean, she does sound like she's fighting demons. She's
fighting some demons, but that's so weird. But you know what? We'll make the connection maybe in
our next episode because it's like, what is with these like voices kind of a thing? That's my thing
because I was just thinking about it when I was researching this something about this next case
that we cover next week. It's like, there's something I don't know. Let's let's make some
connections. Like let's think about it because that I'm ready. That's that's some creepy shit.
But no guys, just for warning, please do not eat your babies out of windows. So
Bree's like, yeah, don't do that. So next story, story number three.
This one is a little crazy to prepare yourselves. On October 12, 1962, police arrived to yet
another crime scene at the Cecil where according to LAPD, it appeared that two victims had
lead to their deaths. One a battered man and beside the man a battered woman. But for a closer
look from the corner, something seemed a little off about the conclusion that the two people could
just commit a suicide. So let's go to the day before this on October 11, 1962. A couple by
the name of Dewey Odin and his wife Pauline Odin had just arrived to the Cecil Hotel.
Amission it. You're just there. But this couple was not a happy couple. In fact, according to
sources, the minute they walked into the hotel, all they did was argue and bicker. After the
kinds of years I give them the two their key. What do I just call him? Dewey? I don't know why
Dewey keeps reminding me of Scream. Are you seeing Scream, right? Yes. I think his name is like Officer
Dewey. It is. It is. Okay. Yeah. I keep thinking about that. Okay. Anyway, sorry guys. I get a little
sidetracked. So they got their two keys. Immediately, Dewey left the hotel and did not return until
9am the next morning while Pauline went up to give to the given room. And now immediately when Dewey
walked into the room the next morning, Pauline was not happy. She had clearly been drinking that
morning and heavily while in tears pacing back and forth insisting that her husband did not love her.
So Dewey had continuously told her, you have a drinking problem and you need help. And Pauline
would then literally chuck a bottle of whiskey at him and salting or insinuating that he is what
led her to alcoholism and that he was never there for her. Dang. Dang. Which I'm sorry but I don't
think anyone's alcohol. I don't know. I can't relate but I don't feel like someone else can make
you become an alcoholic. Maybe if you've been through trauma but whatever. Just me. So Dewey
feeling a little portrayed for taking care of the both of them abruptly storms out the room and
goes on a walk to decompress. So he claimed that he loved his life despite the marital problems
but alcoholism was just consuming her and just consuming the person he once knew. He often found
himself having to separate himself from Pauline until she calmed down. But little did Dewey know
this would be the last time he'd be seeing his wife because he had left her alone and Pauline
then pulled out a sheet of paper from the drawer and wrote you want to read this one? She wrote
Dewey I hate you. I hate everything about you. You will never care about anything or anyone besides
money. Farewell. Yikes. A letter. A letter. Yeah. Yikes. That's pretty hard. But maybe she was spin
facts. She's but maybe we never know. But oh she then went up from the bed where she had written
the note on the nightstand. She placed the note on the pillow stumbled over to the window opened it
stepped onto the ledge and let herself fall to the ground below. But tragically prior to her fall
down below stood a man named George Gianni. A man that had been struggling from gambling addiction
and had actually had been just getting his life together until a intoxicated Pauline plummeted
right on top of her. No. Killing them both on the couch. No. I know. I'm not laughing because
it's not fun. It's not funny but I'm laughing because it's fucking crazy. What the fuck. Not her literally.
Fucking up someone else's life. Yeah. I know. Like she literally committed murder after death. Yeah.
Isn't that crazy. She literally fell on top of someone else. Now she was killing herself.
Girl. Oh my god. So she does not have good aim. No. No she does not. Girl. Like I said before.
R.I.P. Well I mean R.I.P. to them both. R.I.P to that man. I feel so. Imagine being an innocent
highstander who's getting his shit together and a woman just jumping from a window on top of you.
And my dad made a good point because I brought this up to him too. I was like damn did you hear
the story dad. He was like you know a human body weighs a lot of like a lot. Yeah especially like
that force. Yeah that force to fall from a window. Like do you know what floor it was. I think this
was from the very top floor. Yeah so very far drop from below. Dude. Oh I feel so bad for the guy.
So like I said before the scene looked to police at first at first glance at least. Like I've been
joint suicide. Joint suicide. Yeah. And of course like I said the corner arrived and the scene they
noticed George's hand had still been in his pockets. I'm gonna say that again I kind of spin on the
mic. So the scene they had noticed George's hands were still in his pockets and both his
shoes were still on. So from the coroner's experience they knew it was not specifically easy or near
impossible for a suicide victim to fall from that high up with their hands in their pockets and
acknowledged that the victim's shoes were still on their feet but they're also loose and untied.
And they said that you know one of the shoes would have fallen off on the way down had this happened.
So the bodies like I have said were too battered for identification but the authorities traced
this suicide victim to one of the only open windows from above and located the suicide note
Pauline had written with blatant proof that this was a woman who was furious prior to her passing.
And the man that late dad beside her was in fact a victim in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Where is her husband? Good point. So Dewey did eventually return back to the Cecil Hotel when
he saw that there was a scene and it was covered in police tape and a crack was forming because
remember he had gone on a walk because she had stressed him out. So he had heard onlookers
was spring that someone had jumped to their death. What is more tragic was that Dewey did not think
this was anything resorting to him or anything to do with him up until he saw a hotel staff that
had checked him in speaking to an officer and that hotel staff pointed directly at him. The
officer walked up and asked sir I'm sorry to ask but are you Mr. Odin? He says why yes I am
what's wrong? The officer replies I'm sorry sir but we believe one of the victims is your wife.
Instantly he runs under the caution tape and pushes the officer aside and recognized at
closer glance the peach-colored pastel dress that belonged to his wife Pauline and dropped to his
knees. According to sources to this day or sorry this day what hot Dewey for years knowing that
the last time he spoke to his wife was enraged through an argument. Eventually he did get past
the grief but even beyond those years he would claim that continuously having nightmares of
watching her fall from the window of this seized a hotel. Oh so crazy. That's a heavy one. That's a
heavy one yeah. So the case of Pauline and George gave the entire central Los Angeles chills for years
after this and it was a huge story and this had been the 11th suicide since 1931. Damn. And the
evolution of how the sea silica gain is infamous name only grew worse and worse. Now we are getting
to our last story which again is a crazy one. It's a buckle in. I'm buckled. Buckled. Sorry guys I need
a drink real quick. He's drinking a whole bottle of wine. Y'all can't see it but okay. I'm drinking
a whole bottle of the witches for that. That we've had since he started this show. No for real though.
I think that's hilarious. Why doesn't it go bad though right? It doesn't. Yeah it's good. I don't know.
I don't think I think it was bad if he opened it after a while. I think we're good though. It's
been like but we don't talk about it. Okay. Maybe two months. Maybe two months. So this is a case of
Goldie Osgood aka Pigeon Goldie. This case begins in the summer of 1958 with a sweet lady. Oh
so cute. She's like my little hoodie. Oh she's good. So let me keep going. Sorry.
All right. Our ADHD today guys. Oh my god. Through the roof. Okay. Sorry guys. Okay. Anyways.
This case began since summer of 1958 with a sweet old lady roughly between the age of 1670 by the
name of Goldie Osgood. We love her. She is amazing. She's a sweetie. Now that summer of 58 Goldie had
just moved to the Cecil Hotel as the Cecil had just started began accepting people to lease rooms
since obviously throughout the years the Cecil had just tarnished the reputation with all these
things going on and Goldie had heard the reports of the hotel's dark history but that did not stop
her because Goldie is a bad bitch. Queen. She's a queen and she didn't let anything stand in her
way. So she recently retired as a telephone operator and wanted to start a new life in Los
Angeles. She began spending a lot of her time downtown in Los Angeles meeting new people
and she eventually found happiness in feeding pigeons since the nickname her friends gave her
pitch and Goldie. Love. That's so wholesome. It's so cute. Okay. So it was just a calming
activity for her and she was like I said a sweet lady and she even gave food to the homeless every
now and then which is just so like so sweet. I just I can't get past that. So from what such
as share she often wore a blue Los Angeles Dodger baseball cap and would grab her little brown paper
bag with bird seeds and head down to Pershing Square in the middle of downtown LA and talk to
her friends as she had made and feed the birds. She often made her she she often made this her
daily routine for the next six years while living at the Cecil and there had been six years six years
she lived at the Cecil and there had never been any complaints about Goldie and people loved her.
They knew her in and out of the hotel and people just loved her presence. She actually had a little
money and she was just on a fixed income but despite all of this she just wore a smile all the time.
She was really living a sweet life as Zack and Cody. She was living in a hotel. She was living
a hotel and she was living her best life which is crazy. I feel like that'd be sick because you
don't have to clean. You don't have to clean. That's a good point. Like you clean a little bit but
like but like isn't that like even if you have made it like I'm pretty sure there would still be
hotel maze. Yeah yeah you're right. Good point. I actually don't know how that works but I think
there would be. Yeah yeah yeah if anyone lives in a hotel as a tenant let us know that's interesting.
Yeah I'm curious. I'm curious. So on June 4th 1964 Goldie woke up bright and early got dressed,
grabbed her brown paper bag with her bird seeds and headed down to her 10 mile walk to the
Persian square or Persian square sorry. She fed the birds, met up with her friends, she had lunch
and then she returned home later that day. It was around the evening time a little before 7 p.m.
to wash up and prepare for dinner and bed. Approximately at 7 15 p.m. a male employee there
was no name I just it was just saying male employee for all the resources I found was delivering phone
books to the tenants when he gets to the Goldie Goldie's room and knocks. To his surprise the door
was slightly cracked open. The employee was more so shocked because the door had been unlocked
and he knew Goldie a little bit so it was very weird to see because he knew that she was kind of
personal and cautious beyond just being a very nice person which I would be too and so he calls
for her and gets no answer. It's dead silent in the room and in the hallway. He then pushes the
door open to reveal a dead Mrs. Goldie. She had been brutally murdered. Her body was stabbed
multiple times. Her body was severely beaten and her underwear had been pulled down around her
calves indicating that she had in fact been raped. The employee was actually a long time
friend of hers so this hit hard for him but what really hurt was that her eyes were still wide
open and her head was slanted slightly to the side so when he walked in it kind of appeared that
she was looking directly at him. That is it's chilling it's so chilling. So within minutes of
dialing police they arrive at the scene to a crime of brutality. Senior homicide detective at the
LAPD at the time detective Peter Towns was assigned the call. After arriving and scoping up the scene
he noticed her blue Los Angeles Dodgers baseball cap was wiped beside her thigh. Her shirt had
appeared to be torn and was lying underneath her midsection and pants are pure torn as well but
were on the bed above her. The table in the room was knocked over books were thrown everywhere and
she had fresh cuts on her arm indicating that Goldie was trying to fight back. A bad bitch once
again fighting back. Stabs would have been near her left breast and her left rib cage and she
received beating mostly to her face and neck and a small hand towel near her neck had been trenched
and bled. From the messy display before detective Peter Towns it seemed as if this had been a
robbery slash raping but it appeared that whoever did this knew Goldie and did a really good job
of cleaning up any evidence from the scene. So detective Peter Towns collaborated with other
detectives to get to the bottom of this murder and after asking residents and staff that they knew
or that she knew at the time they went down to Pritching Square where Goldie was known to be
every day. After asking several witnesses they had no luck until one of the officers looked up
and saw what seemed to be a man wearing a white t-shirt with large amount of blood stains on them.
Okay he's down why wouldn't he change? Right okay thank you. So when the two made eye contact
he instantly darted for the other way. Eventually the chase ended with the officer tackling him down
and asking dude why are your clothes trenched in blood and why did you run away when we spotted you.
He says I'm scared. He says scared of light. That I get caught. I should have not have done it.
I just snapped. He then asked where did the blood come from and he says her. Detective says where.
He says the hotel. So immediately police arrest this man under the first degree
murder of Miss Goldie Osgood. They got lucky. But wait. Oh. The man had to had not directly
confessed to who he did this to. So this man after tracking down who he was was 29 year old
Jack was a liner. So DNA in the 1980s was still our early concepts but they did use it for this case
to test the blood on his shirt to see if he could get a potential match of the murder of Miss Goldie.
But after 10 days of waiting for results the DNA results came back and conclusive.
This guy did not kill Goldie Osgood. Later finding out that Jack was the man who got arrested
did slap stab a woman though it was ironically a homeless woman right near the hotel and apparently
they had gotten just into an disagreement. What about I'm not sure but the homeless
woman did end up being okay and surviving. Oh good. So that's good. So this put investigators at
square one and after reexamining the crime scene and after months and months and months of looking
at the scene there were no suspects no further leads and no one's stepping forward. So the death
of Goody Osgood went cold and her murder is still a mystery to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I feel bad for Adi. I mean Miss Goldie because she's not like a great woman and Jesus
Christ. I'm upset too. Like maybe one day we'll have justice for who did this to her but this
doesn't help that the hotel has been refurbished so many times. So that scene is gone well and gone
and this happened back way back ago. So but yeah those are the four topics that we have gone over
today for the Cecil Hotel. Crazy crazy stories and this is only the surface of it because like I said
next week we are covering at least at least lamb and that alone is such a crazy case that it needed
its own topic and we won't tell you guys what the other two topics are but they do have something to
do with the Cecil Hotel. So this entire month it's a little Christmas present for you guys on the
Cecil and I'm just really happy to be covering this one because I've been wanting to cover this
for months now and now that we're friendly at it we're gonna do our best to cover it. So that's
that. So those are just a just a handful of stories from the Cecil Hotel guys. You can definitely
go and research so many more because this is only the surface of all the things that happened at the
Cecil. It's kind of insane. I don't know what's going on at this hotel but something sinister goes down.
I'm having a sneeze time. No you're gonna try to be quiet for a minute to see you're gonna
sneeze to edit that out but you're good you didn't have anything. But yeah so guys yeah
definitely look that up it's really interesting we are gonna cover at least lamb and that's
kind of come out next Friday. By that time I will be in New York so that'll be fun. I'm excited for
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