1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 I'm Kendall and I'm Simon and this is When the Light Goes Out. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:25,560 So today Simon's here with us. It's okay though because still got Bree here. 3 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:32,160 Bree's still with us. Say hey Bree from the back. We love you. We love you. I know I 4 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:37,880 got big shoes to fill but I'm gonna do my best to keep this podcast rolling. 5 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Yeah no Bree's okay everyone. She's just a little under weather today so we decided 6 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:49,080 to just swap it out a little bit. We have Simon here with us and I'm excited. 7 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,120 This is gonna be fun. She'll slap me on the head if I make any mistakes. 8 00:00:54,120 --> 00:01:03,320 She's just chillin on a couch. We love it. So we had just talked about a little bit 9 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,880 briefly me and Bree before we started the show. But some of the unfortunate 10 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:16,720 happenings that had taken place the last week I want to say. Plenty of stuff. A 11 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:23,520 lot of stuff. Oh my god yeah. So if you guys aren't familiar there was a very 12 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:34,600 very fatal shooting that had occurred. Colorado Springs. I totally messed up. 13 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:41,360 I'm so sorry. So this was in Colorado Springs and unfortunately five people 14 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:51,240 happened shot down at a LGBTQ nightclub called I think if I remember correctly 15 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:58,880 I think it's Club Q and 18 were injured and I just want to say my heart goes out 16 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,440 to those families that have to unfortunately go through this because 17 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,880 it's just anarchy out here guys. These guns these gun laws are just getting so 18 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,880 out of hand. I mean it's terrible. It's just terrible at the end of the day and 19 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,600 you know there was that other story. I can't remember where it was coming off from. 20 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,600 We're six college students. We're stuck. Yeah we were just talking about that. 21 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:31,400 We slept in our sleeps. And four. Four. No the fifth one died. Yeah and the police 22 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,160 have butchered that investigation apparently. Really? Yep that's the last 23 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,040 story I read is that they butchered the investigation. I've gotten nowhere with 24 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:46,880 it. So like whoever whatever monster did this is just out here Scott free right 25 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:52,640 now. And that's that's another thing. I just never feel that the media sometimes 26 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:56,560 doesn't give these stories the closure they need and I feel like they just 27 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,920 summarize them in certain ways and I'm not calling out any specific social 28 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:04,320 media I mean sorry any specific media companies or anything like that because 29 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,120 we don't want to get sued but there are a lot of them out there that just don't 30 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,960 cover these cases the way they should be covered. I mean it's about the the 31 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,800 catastrophe not the closure in it. Definitely definitely and I know Bree 32 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:22,400 had also mentioned that there was a thing a shooting on a school bus. I think 33 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:29,360 I think it was a Virginia player in Tennessee. Yeah. Virginia football 34 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:35,920 players three of them died. Wow. One of them survived the shooting. It was a 35 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:42,080 former football player who had been cut from what I understand. That's just so 36 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:48,240 heartbreaking to hear. Wow. Yeah again guys definitely research this kind of 37 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:53,640 stuff inform yourselves because this stuff is real and again going back to just 38 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:59,240 specifically just the club cue shooting just because as a gay black man in this 39 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:05,440 world it's scary. Don't get me wrong. It happens anywhere but just knowing and I 40 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,840 know this this show comes out on Friday but I know Wednesday I know I have a lot 41 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,640 of friends I want to go out things like that you know enjoy themselves because 42 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,840 it's a holiday and it's just so scary because I'm just like I'm scared. You 43 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:22,920 can't enjoy your own time. Yeah. You can't even just like feel safe going out 44 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,760 and having a good time with friends and that's just sickening. And I'll even yeah 45 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,680 I don't feel safe anymore. I just I it's terrible. The thought of like this 46 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,040 happening anywhere in the world is just terrifying. And no one should have to 47 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,000 think like that. No. No one should have to feel like the amount of hate that people 48 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:44,000 have it's just it's beyond me. It's truly beyond me. I don't know why and I don't 49 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,880 want on a I don't even want to understand how people feels minds work the way they 50 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,160 do but it's truly just devastating to even see this on the news and having to 51 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,560 just you know at some point I feel like a lot of the world just becomes numb to 52 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,600 it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Such a desensitization. I don't know if I said that right. No I 53 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,760 think it's like you know everyone's desensitized to it's like you know it's 54 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,560 just because yeah it's tragic and we all think it's tragic but like you know we 55 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,960 don't know how that mother feels of a 25 year old who's just an outgone. Yeah. We 56 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,640 don't know how you know that family feels and you know it's just on to the 57 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:31,080 next one it feels like you know a lot of the times it's awful. It truly breaks 58 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:36,800 it just breaks my heart. I even I even have the words. You just get the same 59 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,280 people coming on TV being like this is a terrible tragedy it never should have 60 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:48,240 happened but nothing. It shouldn't happen again. Yeah. When will this end? That's my 61 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:57,320 question. It's just it's just crazy and again you know I see everyone on like 62 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,840 social media giving their thoughts and prayers and things like that but like 63 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:06,040 how can we really change this though? Like how can we inform each other about 64 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:12,560 gun safety? How can we make sure that you know if we have kids our kids are safe 65 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,080 but they're also you know in a safe space to feel like they need to come 66 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,120 forward if they're having any problems because you know when it comes you know 67 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,440 that's I think if I'm not mistaken that Skull Bus shooting was a kid that 68 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,280 brought a gun onto the Skull Bus and shot these these football players and it 69 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:35,440 just it's just crazy to me because I'm thinking like how did this kid get the 70 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:42,760 allowance to have this gun and bring it to school? Like I mean it's like how 71 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:48,360 can we go through this as a people instead of this division? Yeah you know 72 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:54,880 like how can we be united in all of this and be like hey this is a problem this 73 00:06:54,880 --> 00:07:02,200 is not just one individual problem or a certain corner of the world problem this 74 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,120 is a problem yeah we have to deal with it and it's our problem yeah so we need 75 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,320 to learn how to come together really yeah definitely deal with this and I'm 76 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:17,560 just a slightly slightly lighter note I know that Thanksgiving was just a day 77 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,160 ago by the time this comes out so happy Thanksgiving everyone. Happy Thanksgiving 78 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:28,920 guys. Happy Thanksgiving turkey day. And I hope everyone's just saying 79 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,040 safe out there if you guys you know I know a lot of people around Thanksgiving 80 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,600 like to just have a lot of fun with their friends and family again be safe out 81 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,880 there it gets crazier around these times this time of year especially you know I 82 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,720 don't know if it's the way it always used to be but I know Black Friday is 83 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:49,320 today too or Friday technically again if you guys are doing shopping things like 84 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,920 that just stay safe. Enjoy yourself be safe drive safe. Yeah I already know here 85 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,280 in Detroit how could I forget this I know that sorry to bring it back down 86 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,880 but I couldn't leave this out but I'm not mistaken there was another shooting 87 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,240 in Detroit that had happened and two people were shot during the light the 88 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:12,240 tree lighting ceremony that happened last Friday if I'm not mistaken really yeah 89 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:18,120 yeah and I'm just like what the hell like oh my god it's a nice thing of the year 90 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,680 I can't even go outside anymore without thinking who who might pull a gun out at 91 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,320 some point I don't know. Yeah no it's no way to live at the end of the day it's no 92 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:32,360 way to live. Yeah no definitely not but to bring it back up again I know that we 93 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:37,160 had we had run into each other at the mall what was it Saturday? Yeah it was 94 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,160 Saturday. I was telling three I was like mightly hung over at the time and I was 95 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,920 just going through it for a minute and then I just look over with my slightly 96 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:53,200 fainter eyes and I'm like who is that Simon that's coming into the store? We were in 97 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,760 Express. And there I was dressed out buying clothes for a wedding and 98 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:04,040 call and breathe to help me because she gets all the clothes I wear she's you 99 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,400 know my stylist. Not to teet my own horn but no no Kendall 100 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,560 Kendall pulled through guys I would have not made it. Like Angel said from 101 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:15,720 happening that moment I was like hell yeah let's get this done. Some things are 102 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,360 just meant to be and Kendall was there for me. I'm just saying I was just there 103 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,880 picking up some clothes and I was like let's do this let's do it. So I ended up 104 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,720 looking pretty great. I don't want to lie best one at the wedding. No I'm just kidding. 105 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:38,320 No I bet. I love it. Between me and you. I love it. So today I have got a story 106 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:47,560 ready for us and this story is a listeners recommended story. I think 107 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:51,680 we're on episode 13 so that's kind of crazy. We're in our teenage years now. 108 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:57,240 13 is an unlucky number though. Oh don't say that. Triska-Pecophobia. 109 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Triska-Pecophobia. What's Triska-Pecophobia? It's the fear of the number 13. 110 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,600 Wait I didn't know that's a thing. Yeah it's actual phobia. Oh my god. Yeah more 111 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:17,240 you know. Holy shit guys. Shout out Mr. Magni. Yeah does anyone have Triska-Pecophobia? 112 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:26,440 You got it. Anyway it's cool. Just comment if you need me to pronounce it again guys. 113 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:32,080 Seriously we need some pronunciations on that one. But yeah so this story was a 114 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,360 listener recommended story. This is Chris that recommended this. So shout out to 115 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:42,200 you Chris. Chris we love you. Thank you for sending the story in to us and yeah. 116 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,480 So I don't want to waste any more time without further ado. Let's get into the 117 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:54,160 story. So the story starts out in the Labbitt County, Kansas. On Tuesday May 6th 118 00:10:54,160 --> 00:11:01,280 1873 75 men traveled to a great distance through mud and gravel to 119 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:07,160 continue their search for a missing local physician William York. William had been 120 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:13,080 last seen traveling the prairies of Kansas earlier that spring and hadn't 121 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:20,480 been seen since. The men obtained help from local official Leore Dick who also 122 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:27,080 at the time had simultaneously have been locating his missing cousin. Eventually 123 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,360 the search brought the group to a cabin in the middle of the prairie only 10 124 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:37,400 feet away from the outsized trail. They look around and they see starving and 125 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:43,120 dead animals around the area and as they knock on the cabin they get no answer 126 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:49,040 and found that the cabin appeared to be abandoned. So they then bust open the 127 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:54,160 wooden door and then all of a sudden the local official Leore Dick and some other 128 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:00,720 of the the men that were falling behind him abruptly get whiffs of strong vile 129 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:09,800 orders of death and decay. Eww yeah really bad. So some of the men are trying 130 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,280 their hardest to ignore the urge to recurgitate which I don't blame them 131 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,760 because I would definitely throw up if I had to smell this. Yeah I never smelled 132 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,040 that but I don't think it would smell good. Oh yeah I don't think I can do that. 133 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:26,680 I can't even hardly put up with like bad food in my refrigerator. I can definitely 134 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:29,920 not do that. No we can talk about it on the podcast but like that's as far as I 135 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:37,040 go. Uh no. Personally. Uh no. No true. I work retail the bathrooms get bad enough. 136 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:45,600 Oh no no no no I get that. Oh my god. I can imagine. I've seen some shit. I 137 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:51,440 you want to suggest I got horror stories we can tell on this podcast. Oh god. Oh god. 138 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,960 The bathroom horror stories. Oh my god. That would really haunt y'all. Well the group then 139 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,760 splits up to find and locate just where the smell is coming from and inside the 140 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:08,760 cabin Leore describes this cabin to be a 16 by 24 foot single room divided by one 141 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:14,440 single white canvas sheet that was often used for white horse drawn wagons at 142 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:19,640 the time. Yeah. And so Leore then proceeds to walk into the cabin and 143 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:25,320 draws a curtain aside to unveil a well furnished living space covered and waste 144 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:30,600 and grime and golfton flies. Nice. You love that right. Right. I found that on 145 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:38,000 Zillow and shit you know. On Zillow. Well with a given scene before a Leore he finds 146 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,400 that the space appeared to have been abandoned for quite some time but wherever 147 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:49,480 the landowners went they appear to have been left in quite a hurry. So as we way 148 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,960 continues to scut the space in the middle of the cabin near the canvas sheet he 149 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:59,440 picks up a Bible with a ripped spine laying near the wooden table creeping 150 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:06,160 closer and closer to the floor next to the table table. Leore then discovers 151 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,840 what is a trap door underneath the table. This is also in the kitchen area by the 152 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:16,760 way. So he then pulls the table aside revealing a leather strap used to used 153 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,680 as a handle and he prized it wide open and immediately it releases the 154 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:29,240 putrefying smell of rotting and decomp and sees it's a very small cellar. So one 155 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,360 of the men participating in the search named Silas Toll volunteers to go down 156 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:39,560 to check out what is below fucking Silas dude. I know the goat here. So 157 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:44,960 immediately regretting this volunteer he just gets a unbearable stench obviously 158 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,880 and then he just continues to climb down but realizes that there is a heavy slab 159 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,480 inside of the cellar blocking him from seeing what is lying underneath it. But 160 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:01,400 what he did find was thick layers of clotted blood all over the cellar. There 161 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,600 was so much clotted blood actually that it seeped through the slab into the 162 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,960 crevices of the into the dirt below. The whole slab? The whole slab. The entire 163 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:19,440 entire thing was covered. So this was the main source of the smell. So the men 164 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,600 tightrope the horses and police which separated the cabin from its like 165 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:29,360 foundation unveiling the entirety of the pit that Silas had jumped into and the 166 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:35,000 man began the men began just to dig and dig but unfortunately nothing but blood 167 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:41,880 kept coming up. Oh my god. It was that bad. It's not crazy. No that's fucking insane. 168 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:47,480 Like literally a pool of blood. So Ed York brother of missing physician 169 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,480 William York eventually writes in a few hours following the dig and search after 170 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:56,840 news was said and sent to him from Leroy of the search parties current 171 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,800 findings in the cabin. Now the smell of human decay still reeks but no sign of 172 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:08,000 bodies just blood just was throughout the cabin. This led to Ed York proceeding to 173 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,600 search a property himself in case he recognized any you know clues or anything 174 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,200 that his brother might have left around. So as Edward walks through the cabin 175 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:23,200 he's looking through the already searched items and he sees a horse brittle. 176 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:28,040 He specifically recalls belonging to his brother William and it's immediately 177 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:33,000 struck with the overwhelming feeling that something very very bad has happened 178 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,280 to his brother in the cabin and he cannot help but wonder if he let the 179 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,280 people who owned this cabin escape. Now that might be a little confusing right 180 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,000 now but I promise it'll make sense later. I was gonna say this this seems like you 181 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,920 know what seems like a stretch but like there's some messed up stuff going on in 182 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,160 that cabin. Yeah definitely and now if you guys are a little confused about what 183 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,640 the horse brittle is because actually didn't know what that was after his 184 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,920 wife found this a horse brittle. So a horse brittle is that kind of mask that 185 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,720 you put on horses to keep them retain. Oh yeah yeah yeah so that's what that is. 186 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:12,360 I had no idea I was just gonna say to be honest. I was confused too don't worry. 187 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:17,760 So that same day searchers along with Ed York discovered disturbed soil with an 188 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,960 apple orchard in vegetable garden not too far away from the cabin. So they use a 189 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,840 metal rod to see if they can hit anything and immediately the rod hit 190 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:33,360 something below. They began digging right away and beneath the land in a shallow 191 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:39,560 grave they find human remains. As the search party spreads throughout the 192 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,600 area they realized that there are several areas with freshly laid soil they 193 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,240 had not realized was there before. Soon the man began to realize that they are 194 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:54,600 not just suing with one or two missing persons but entire field of murdered 195 00:17:54,600 --> 00:18:00,920 and missing victims. Jesus. And it was at that moment Ed York knew exactly who had 196 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,760 been behind this because only months before he had himself met these people. 197 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:12,920 These people were known to be the bloody benders. No fucking kidding. Yeah you can 198 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,240 already see what they got their names from. Makes a lot of sense from the start of the story. 199 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,760 You said blood everywhere. I know. I thought they were going to be called the 200 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:26,480 the Johnson's. The Johnson's. No they died. They died right and I died right into this. 201 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,960 Oh my god. So just a little background just a little quick history lesson about 202 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,600 the time before we go any further. Around the time sorry around the spring time 203 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,040 of 1854 Kansas had just become a new territory in the U.S. and settlers were 204 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,640 heading west for Missouri and search for a new land for farming. Families, 205 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,400 individuals and nomads flocked to the Kansas Purys because of a great number 206 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,720 of resources perfect for farming such as clean water and abundant sub forest for 207 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:03,480 timber and acreous land. Also to comment slavery became notarized as an 208 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:10,680 institution for the territory. So in May of 1854 the U.S. Congress released the 209 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:16,480 Kansas-Nebraska Act which was created to allow settlers of Kansas and Nebraska to 210 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:22,160 decide whether or not enslavement would be reinstated as the territories had been 211 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:28,400 already areas of free land. So if I'm not mistaken Nebraska remained a 212 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,920 free state while Kansas was pro enslavement of innocent people of color. 213 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:41,120 Now for a very long time well into the 1860s and 70s the drawing feud between 214 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:47,320 Kansas being a free state versus a slave state persisted and made Kansas a huge 215 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,160 hub for political debate. This also created a ton of violence not to mention 216 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,880 settlers attempting to protect the communities from guerrilla warfare 217 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:02,840 because at this time the Civil War was also in the works. So eventually in 218 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:10,320 1861 Kansas deemed itself a free state which ignited what thousands of 219 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:16,120 civilians in Kansas losing their lives leaving an outcome of Kansas and shambles 220 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:22,320 leaving remaining civilians to rebuild what they had once called home. Terrible 221 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:28,960 this terrible. No no. So towns did begin to flourish once again although more and 222 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:35,160 more white settlers started clinging onto Kansas and what it could offer to them. 223 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,640 As more Kansas began to become established by these white settlers 224 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:46,320 indigenous colonies would just be disrupted. By the 1970s the US 225 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,680 government really just ignored settlements they made with the native 226 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,560 tribes and just began building railroads right on top of their land. 227 00:20:53,560 --> 00:21:00,400 Right smack through everything. Straight through it. And then LeBek County which 228 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,480 is where the story takes place in the 1970s was a beautiful terrain where 229 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:11,400 prairies as far as I could see but all the while was a messy scene at the same 230 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:17,160 time. So the crime rate around here just grew and grew and settlers just 231 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:23,080 entered like crazy. Eventually all the natives of the Osset's tribe were forced 232 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:28,560 out from the LeBek County which is where we get the name Osset's Trail to 233 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:35,720 Oklahoma and thanks to the Homestead Acts but not really in October of 1875 234 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,840 families moved into the area. Now real quick before I go on I just wanted to 235 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,040 quickly mention what the Homestead Act is just in case you 236 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:50,320 spent a minute since history class. The Homestead Act allowed for pretty much 237 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,920 settlers and travelers mostly of white descent. You were able to claim land. To 238 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,960 claim land. Yeah. You were able to claim tents to hundreds of acres. A lot. Yeah. 239 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,040 A lot. By just exploring this territory. That's why there was so many people 240 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:11,360 flocking west and you know south and stuff. Yeah it's crazy too because it was 241 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:15,040 like dirt cheap to just to get where I'm. And it was like it was next to nothing. 242 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Yeah and it was pretty much like the Homestead Act is pretty much like a 243 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,040 land. As long as you can make the land like better they'll let you say kind of 244 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,760 a thing. So I mean at that point it was a no-brainer for so many people. Yeah 245 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,760 you're farming. You're keeping. Living on these port towns there wasn't much to do 246 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,800 about that. Many job opportunities land or opportunities to go so a lot of 247 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,440 people said screw it. Just gonna go. Let me go let me go see what's out there. 248 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,040 That's true. Yeah definitely. With no regard to anyone else. Yeah they did not 249 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:54,520 care whatsoever. So yeah like I said five families specifically in Lebede 250 00:22:54,520 --> 00:23:00,200 County at the time of October 1870 had moved into the area. They all settled 251 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,240 approximately seven miles away from where Sherrivale, Kansas will later be 252 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,600 established and one of these five families were father and son John Bender 253 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:18,880 Sr. who was 60 and John Bender Jr. who was 25 at least approximately 25 and they 254 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:25,280 were given a 160 acre plot of land facing the Osage Trail. That's a lot of 255 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:33,080 land folks. That's a lot of land folks. Yeah no kidding. Geez. So now these 256 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,120 benders were thought to have been German immigrants as they were told they had as 257 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:42,920 we are told from just archives and such that they had really thick accents and 258 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:50,000 after a year of building a lot cabin home in Barn in 1871 two more 259 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,880 benders arrived. This was 55 year old Avira Bender who went as Ma and was also 260 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,840 known to be very unfriendly. Yeah she has a bad reputation. Ma! Ma! I'm sorry. 261 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,120 Was it Avira like the mistress of something? I know it's like the mistress of 262 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:12,800 darkness or something. I think that was the old TV show. I don't know. I like the 263 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:20,040 name. Avira? Avira. That's a name right there. So there was her and then we have 264 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Kate Bender who was thought to have been around the age of 20 years old. This 265 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,840 woman was noted to be a very beautiful woman and was a quote self-proclaimed 266 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:39,040 healer and psychic. Okay. So why not? Take that as you. So like I said they all 267 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,400 had what was recognized and thought to be German accents but no one was for sure. 268 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,720 Kate spoke fluent English. She was kind of the family's more prized possession 269 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:54,080 while living in Kansas. John Jr. spoke a little English but very broken English 270 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,160 and then Ma and Pa were not English speakers whatsoever. So they just spoke 271 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,240 German or they just spoke with a German accent? German accents but also kind of 272 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:09,280 German. But the thing is they worked as we see from the archives and things I've 273 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:14,440 read. People assume that it was German I think at the time. I mean people people 274 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:20,120 around them just were like yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say yeah they're probably ignorant to 275 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:24,120 it so we don't know for sure if that was German but apparently it's definitely 276 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:29,720 foreign people. Foreign. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they're definitely from out of town. 277 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:36,640 They're not in Kansas. They're not in Kansas. So just keep in mind ultimately 278 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Kate being most spiritual and most clear with English was pretty good at drawing 279 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,560 in the travelers for the most part. So the Benders did realize that their cabin 280 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,520 was a hotspot for travelers and really began realizing that they could use their 281 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,040 geographic location to their benefit. So they decided to split the cabin into two 282 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:04,120 parts. So the front of the cabin sorry I'll say this in front of the white 283 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:09,720 canvas that divided the cabin would be converted into a general store in a 284 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,000 kitchen and a dining table for guests to eat at. So travelers traveling along the 285 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,440 trail would have a place to rest and eat. The other side of the canvas would 286 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,520 remain as a living quarter. So this would eventually become known as the 287 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:30,720 Bender Inn. Bender Inn as in Bender Inn. Like a yeah you get that. Oh my god they're like the first 288 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,800 bed and breakfast. Bed and breakfast. Yeah. They were like the the first what are they 289 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:44,360 called. Oh my god I'm blanking right now. Like when is somebody's house. Oh oh oh oh. 290 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:50,360 Why am I blanking right now. I know you're talking about why can I think of what you're saying. I don't know why I keep 291 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:56,840 thinking Uber. That doesn't make sense. No Airbnb. Airbnb. Yeah like the first Airbnb. Yeah yeah yeah. 292 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:03,880 Or Zillow. Right. No I think Zillow is like apartments. Oh is it. Yeah. I didn't know that. Okay. I think so. 293 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:10,000 Well now I know I'm doing my next image level. I love it. But yeah pretty much like the first 294 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:18,960 Airbnb. I love it. But with a twist. Yeah seriously. So also keep in mind that that white canvas is very 295 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:26,800 important. So it comes back later. Okay. Let's keep that in mind. And also just keep in mind that this this 296 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:34,640 end quote unquote was a very very small space. So it might sound big but it's a cabin. It's literally 297 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:43,280 cabin in the woods. Yeah. Cabin on a prairie. But yeah let's let's just produce some of the TM. 298 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,560 It's like five people would be crowded or something. Yeah. So like pretty much like they would have one or 299 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,520 two people at most and anything else. Because how many people are really traveling the wilderness. 300 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:59,200 Yeah. Anyways at that time. Yeah. They would get maybe a couple people every so often kind of a thing. 301 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:07,120 So so now let me also say this. Going back to old Kate Kate what apps Kate will often travel 302 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:14,160 around Kansas to give curious citizens readings. Spiritual spiritual lectures healings and contacting 303 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:20,400 loved ones and people ate this shut up. And again people found her really pretty. So it was in her 304 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:26,160 kind of favor to just go around giving these palm readings readings to people things like that. Hey 305 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,760 get your bag girl. She was in her bag. She was in her bag. I'm here for it. 306 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:38,240 And some may think why didn't more people see Kate's line of work as bullshit or why didn't they 307 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:46,160 you know invalidate her work or what she preached. Many did. But around this time spirituality was 308 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,480 very huge and it's a very big talk topic and people took it seriously like. 309 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:56,960 I mean if you just look at the time like lots of people had a lot of thoughts on a lot of 310 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:03,440 things that were a lot of bullshits. Let's be honest folks. Good point. I'm glad to be living 311 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,880 in the time I am even though it's complicated. It would have been a lot worse back then. No. 312 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,880 Let's be honest. You have a point there. That is so true. So any who I had just briefly mentioned 313 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:22,640 how the Ossach Trail that the Indians took in order to vacate Lappet County was the trail that 314 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:28,080 was soon also used for all travelers. And being that this trail wasn't super far from the Benersin 315 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,800 they definitely knew what were they were doing and just had the benefit of the doubt to start 316 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,240 pulling on anyone they needed to pass by who passed by at least. So many travelers would 317 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:44,080 start getting sick or just dying from malnutrition or dehydration. So it was a perfect reason to 318 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:50,320 start Beners business. Many neighboring counties would understand that travelers will also get 319 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:56,560 sick or even die from traveling the Ossach Trail but eventually the record of missing persons on 320 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:03,200 this trail just significantly increased and heads up really started to turn because people are like 321 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,440 I mean if it's that drastic even back then people are gonna be like wait a second. Yeah you know 322 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:16,400 some of this fishy because obviously like yeah we didn't have like dexenes or things to protect you 323 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,920 back then. People putting on dirty bandages ripped off their clothes you know and all that but 324 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:29,440 wouldn't it number when it jumps up like 20% like that's gonna be like yo where's little Jimmy you 325 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:37,680 know where it's yeah we gotta find this dude. No exactly exactly my point and so people really 326 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:46,000 became worried and especially in May of 1871 after a corpse of a man was found in Jump Creek 327 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,440 which will later be named Montgomery Creek in Kansas. He would be found with his skull crushed 328 00:30:51,440 --> 00:31:01,440 young and his throat split. So that's not good? Yeah by February 1872 two more men would be found 329 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:08,480 with the same exact specific injuries crushed skulls and slit throats. By fall of 1872 330 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,640 travelers really started to disappear left and right. The news of missing travelers really 331 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:20,800 started to spread and would not sit too well with the travelers even vigilante mobs would just start 332 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,960 arresting innocent random men but what really caught the attention of nearby counties was the 333 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:34,960 disappearance of a man named George Newton Longer or Long Longer. They spoke differently 334 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:42,320 if we recheck it. Okay. So he went missing on his way from Independence Kansas to Iowa. At the time 335 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:49,520 of his disappearance he had been also traveling with his 18 month old daughter Marianne. They were 336 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:57,600 both never seen alive after being seen traveling along the Ossach trail. Jesus. Yeah not a fan of 337 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:08,480 kid stuff but oh my god yeah. So in March of 1873 a little under a year later we are then brought 338 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:16,000 to the physician that was mentioned at the beginning Dr. William Henry York. William York was also 339 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,480 known sorry. William York was also from Independence Kansas and was very popular as a physician. 340 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,120 If everyone left in the door he can even go to a neighboring town and people would know who he was 341 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,600 and he had eventually set out to find George Longer and his daughter Mary Ann who were his neighbors. 342 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,120 So William would question homesteaders and travelers along the Ossach trail and after 343 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:47,600 getting off a train he eventually made his way to Fort Scott also in Kansas. On that search on Fort 344 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:54,080 Scott he actually identified a wagon and horse belonging to the uh to Longer that Lork actually 345 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:59,920 sold to him prior to his move with his daughter and York is just asking around he's like hey you 346 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:05,600 know does anyone know anything about this. Yeah does anyone know like who these where the people 347 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:11,680 are that yeah they've been missing and like I know what that is. Yeah and no one had answers no one 348 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,360 knew no one saw anything it's just the craziest thing. Yeah. So York had no such luck finding either 349 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,880 of where there were abouts were and he eventually just took a horse back to the route home to 350 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:30,640 Independence but halfway some say that he may have gotten tired or wanted to question people that owned 351 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:41,200 a cabin he was passing by. Oh no. So well Mr York no. Yeah so witness later recounted seeing York 352 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,000 getting off a horse knocking on the door went inside and that was the last time he ever 353 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:55,840 be seen alive. So if that's not telling I don't know what it is. Yeah shout out Mr York though you 354 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:01,360 know. You know great guy. Try to do the right thing. I would like to hope that if I ever and Lord 355 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,600 forbid I ever go missing my neighbors would go looking for me. Right we all need a Mr York in 356 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:12,240 our life. We really do. That's all I'm saying. Oh god so killing anyone obviously is a big no no. 357 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:19,600 Thank you Kendall. Thank you. Yeah you're welcome. If you guys didn't know it's frowned upon in most 358 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:28,080 societies thank you. But killing the well respected and highly cared for physician who just goes missing 359 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:33,440 was where the benders really just fucked up. I mean that's that's going to turn heads. Yeah at that 360 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,480 point. If anything turned heads at this point they'll be like where the fuck is Mr York. Yeah 361 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,120 yeah where's my physician. If he's known in like I mean it's crazy if he's known in that many different 362 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:51,120 areas at that time in this country when it's just territories that's like that's the guy that's a 363 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:58,080 that's big boss right there. Yeah he's definitely he's having the guy to go to and he's like LeBron 364 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:05,520 James of physicians at that point you know. And the crazy part is not only was not only was William 365 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:13,120 York very widely known but he had two brothers that were also higher ups and very well respected. 366 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:20,000 His brothers were Colonel Edward York who if you remember he was also the guy that was looking 367 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:26,320 for his brother at the beginning of this story. Yeah. And also Senator of Kansas Alexander York 368 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:34,160 big names. Okay so like they're that family. They're that family. Okay yeah yeah. So then 369 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:40,400 she really hit the fan after this. Yeah. So immediately after William York went missing 370 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:46,000 Colonel York started investigating and started looking throughout LeBot County right away. 371 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,040 One of the first homesteaders that he would actually question was the Benders. 372 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:59,920 So during this meeting the Benders denied denied denied whole way through. They denied 373 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:05,760 ever acknowledged or ever knowledge of meeting William York or knowing his whereabouts. 374 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:12,960 A newspaper from the time described the interaction with Ma Bender being a hag that set 375 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:18,720 quiet and gloomy pretending that she could not understand English or speak speak English. 376 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:26,880 Pa on the other hand just said nothing at all. Kate Bender smirked the 377 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,640 Ed with an evil eye and denied William ever coming to or in contact with him. I don't like Kate no 378 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:39,840 more. Yeah we don't like Kate. I don't like Kate. John Jr. then spent a story suggesting that Ed's 379 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:46,400 brother may have been Matt with foul play at a remote location near Drum Creek where John Jr. 380 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,920 had claimed quote unquote that he was shot around the same time at claim that his brother went missing 381 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:58,800 and he says it must be the it must be the same people that shot me around the same time. Oh he 382 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:07,520 fucked up. Yeah and now if you specifically remember John Creek was also where a body was found. 383 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:16,560 Yeah. So he fucked up. Mentioning that. Big no no. No. But with hardly any evidence to 384 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:22,080 suggest otherwise Colonel Atwork really had no option but to leave the Benders in peace. 385 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:27,280 He had to be suspicious though. But he was definitely suspicious. Some shit was definitely 386 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:35,680 happening here. Like after talking to those people I'd be like huh yeah okay. This is 387 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:43,360 fucked. Definitely. So only a short few weeks later on April or sorry in April of 1873 Colonel 388 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:49,520 Ed York returned to the Bender Inn confronting the family that a woman had escaped and fell victim 389 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:56,960 to a virus or a mob when she threatened her with knives and pistols. The victim claimed that she 390 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:03,040 barely escaped so Ed kept fiercely suggesting that they were liable but Ed knew my couldn't 391 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:10,240 understand English. But all of a sudden my stance up and she says quote get off my house. 392 00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:20,000 I did nothing wrong. Oh my. No. You fucked up ma. Ed knew there was much more to this family 393 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,880 than what they were letting on. I mean obviously at that point he knew they lied. Yeah. At that 394 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:32,480 point they like ma is ma's hide and shit. Wait like ma I thought you couldn't speak English. 395 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,640 What did this come from? And we don't even know about pa yet. So like you know he's probably all 396 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:44,960 fucked up. At that point I'd be like where the fuck is my brother. Oh yeah. And then luckily for 397 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:54,720 the benders because of Kate they managed to charm Ed and she told him I have psychic abilities 398 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:59,120 and if you come back without your man here I will help you find your brother. Okay he's gonna kill 399 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:08,720 out of you. My boy Ed. Well I'll spoiler it's fine it's okay he doesn't go in your hair. Oh my god. 400 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:14,560 It's okay. Okay Ed's not completely dumb guys. Ed's not completely done. Can't say the same for 401 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:23,680 the brother but we'll get there. I know. Well during the same time the local township organized a 402 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:30,320 town meeting at Harmony Grove school house where officials attended including Colonel Ed York 403 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:39,680 and locals of the area had come as well as pa and John Bender Jr. At the meeting some have believed 404 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:46,400 that Dr. William York's disappearance was the doing of the Auschwitz tribe which typical assumptions 405 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,920 of for the time I guess. Oh no not us. Someone must have been them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not one 406 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:58,400 of us. It's none of us. It's none of us. It's gotta be. It's gotta be the innocent tribes 407 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,640 that we kicked out. Not the crazy people who can speak English actually and got blood stains all 408 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:11,760 it not it couldn't be. Oh no it couldn't be them at all. No. So while these assumptions 409 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,400 didn't let on officials agreed to obtain search warrants for every property along the route 410 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:23,840 that Dr. William York would have traveled and only days later a local noticed animals on the 411 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:30,480 Bender's property that looked to be either dead or starving. So elected township official Lee 412 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:39,600 White Dick was sent to the cabin where 75 men later came and he then sent to fetch Colonel Ed 413 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:47,280 York to come help him check the area. So we've now come full circle right which makes a lot more 414 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:53,680 sense now because like at the beginning I'm like what 75 people like to search this like I feel 415 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:59,600 like they don't even do that today like 75 people but I have to really I mean like 110 acres though 416 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:07,760 right it's a big land yeah yeah they did eventually you know rile up enough men to come to this 417 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:13,600 well I mean obviously the the town knew something was fucking up oh yeah definitely and now if you 418 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:20,640 couldn't remember from the last three minutes we started where Lee Roy had scoped up the house 419 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:26,880 with the search party they found a ton of clotted blood underneath the house in a trap door leading 420 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:34,160 to a cellar underneath the kitchen table they found no bodies Ed York showed up eventually goes down 421 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:42,320 to Moss apple orchard in Kate's vegetable garden where the dirt looked freshly plowed after digging 422 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:52,080 they found what was indeed the body of Dr. William York. Oh William. His body was found face down in 423 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:58,000 a very shallow grave and the back of his head had been smashed in and his throat had been slit 424 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:08,080 and he must have been in that cellar when Ed was there yeah oh my god so on that same day seven 425 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:13,680 more bodies were found in the garden or in the orchard with the same ammo the victims had the 426 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:20,800 throat slit open their heads uh sorry the victims had the throat slit open and their heads were caved 427 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:26,800 in and it looked like it must have been through a hammer or by a hammer at least yeah I mean at 428 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:33,520 that point you know it's it has to be it's not a bear it's not a mountain lion it's people it's it is 429 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:41,440 the worst thing it is people the benders the fucking benders did and oh 430 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,520 kind of weird enough some of the bodies were even 431 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:53,920 is uh indecently mutilated which suggests oh no genital mutilation so 432 00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,000 though the only body different from the rest had been the body of a infant who we can probably guess 433 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:06,560 was little maryanne the 18 month old mm-hmm no we had previously gone missing with her father 434 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:14,000 she was found buried beside her father george george's feet and is said that her body was on 435 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:20,320 harms therefore it is suggested that she may have been buried alive that that that doesn't 436 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:29,600 that's terrible that doesn't mean anything good uh I know I'm not that is the benders are so humane 437 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:36,080 yeah they don't my god no it is suggested so I don't want to believe that she was buried I want 438 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:41,840 to believe that oh I don't want to believe anything but I want to at least hope that it wasn't being 439 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:48,800 buried alive that killed this I mean and in any case that was an infant that was it alive it was 440 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:54,560 alive you know then you know whether it was suffocation or being buried alive or anything 441 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:04,240 like they killed her they killed this poor poor child who had no life to live and not even a chance 442 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:10,880 huh it just these child that's man they get me they really do so her father 443 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:18,560 uh William right george george george so William went to look for george's neighbor 444 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:24,160 okay and William it was the brother of ed okay got you caught up so her father was 445 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:31,840 beat in the back of the head with his short slit and stripped there and I hope by now it's evident 446 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,200 that this was a murderous family of four that were the reason for many child was going missing if it 447 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:44,240 wasn't already it wasn't the ozac tribe shocker I mean it was all on their land yeah it was all 448 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:50,320 on their land like I said and at this point like you said before um the cabin was abandoned right 449 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:57,520 the family wasn't there nope not at all not suspicious at all now when the bodies had been 450 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:05,200 recovered from the land a lot of the bodies were intact while others found just limbs and body parts 451 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:13,120 oh my god being that it's the 1800s they couldn't just use DNA testing to identify the bodies 452 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:18,240 the way we could today so they had to literally just go by way of the reports that were filed for 453 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:23,600 missing person supports in the area and just yeah and correlate them that way yeah just an arm at 454 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,440 that point with yeah what are you gonna do if it was by the arm or like if it was based on you 455 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,600 know the jewelry or the clothes they were wearing yeah you had to do your best because what's someone 456 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:41,120 to say yeah that's jimbo's arm no yeah they wouldn't know that yeah no idea then that's sickening 457 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,480 this is still tragic geez so according to various sources tall bodies were for sure discovered 458 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:57,200 and the victims found were jane spheric, william jones, william york, henry wikenni, benjamin 459 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:10,720 brown, john phipps, william mcrotney, george lonker, mary ann lonker, and john slash peter boil 460 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,800 now these are just a few of the volunteers i'm sorry a few of the victims that were found 461 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,880 is suggested that there are many more that have been on this territory or sorry territory this 462 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:28,080 land how long have they been there for and how big that land is now that's the that's the crazy part 463 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:35,920 because keep in mind everyone who's digging up people right now are not investigators they're 464 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,440 simply just people coming to help like they don't have like a whole unit at that point yeah they 465 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,640 probably got one sheriff one deputy and that's anything like that and you know the rest of it 466 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,280 are just like people with the rifles volunteering you know yeah and keep in mind they found they 467 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:58,240 literally found musli's bodies by sticking like the the metal yeah pipes down in the ground to see 468 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:04,960 they have no idea how far this goes then yeah there's no way of knowing so it's suggested that 469 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:15,520 there may be as many as 20 more than 21 victims total but um it's it's hard to say now i just 470 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:22,560 want to kind of go over some of the victims um because i did find some evidence or some information 471 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:28,160 about who these victims were not all of them but we know benjamin benjamin brown was one 472 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,960 he was identified with a silver ring on his finger by a friend of his that traded horses with him 473 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:40,720 once shortly before his disappearance william Mcgrotney who was traveling to independence from 474 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:46,400 cedarville cancels to make a claim on this land and was said that he did not have a ton of money on 475 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:54,560 him at the time of his disappearance henry mckinney who was a victim that lived in indiana and was just 476 00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:01,840 simply traveling to visit his sister in independence unfortunately he was traveling by foot and again 477 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:09,600 hardly had any cash johnny boyle slash peter boyle i don't know which name is right because i kept 478 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:15,680 finding different sources right both different names but his body was the most unrecognizable 479 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,720 and the only person that recognized him was his little wife who only recognized him because of 480 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:25,760 the shirt he wore and she recognized that shirt because she actually handed that shirt for him 481 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:35,040 yeah so that's painful horrible so any other unknown or unclaimed bodies had just been respectfully 482 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:41,840 laid to rest in independence kansas and just given the respected ceremonies which is heartbreaking to 483 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:51,680 hear cannot imagine being a jondo or jendo unable to be with my family during that kind of uh just 484 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,640 so sad and then they'd never know they never know i mean it was crazy to me that you just kind of 485 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:02,880 pointed out though about these victims is this clearly wasn't a money grab no they weren't robbing 486 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:08,880 people no these were just straight up monsters straight up monsters like these women people like 487 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:16,000 you know not that i'm saying it's better no but i get people but it's just like you know 488 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,600 to quote batman some people just want to watch the world burn you know it's true people are 489 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:29,840 too terrible this is kind of and to find a whole family like that it's crazy because 490 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:35,360 i mean at first i was kind of like oh this reminds me a lot of our first story that we 491 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:41,680 covered me and bry covered which was uh hh homes yeah because you know he you know killed a lot of 492 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:48,560 people put them in this dungeon but like he insurance frauds for him and stuff yeah like you know he 493 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:55,760 as fucked as he was he was you know benefiting from it in a certain way and that was it seemed to be 494 00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:05,360 always his end game whereas you know you know these people just straight up welcome to our cabin 495 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:11,600 yeah literally it reminds me of um i think you say you didn't see it yet but um it's this movie called 496 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:18,000 house of a thousand corpses i recently yeah no i've seen yes but um that is a drop zombie film and 497 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,640 it's kind of it reminds me of it because i guess more of a updated version like an 80s version of 498 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:30,480 it uh because um that story kind of takes place with like these friends that are going to this like 499 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:37,520 i don't know somewhere or whatever but they happen to break down on the road and this family of like 500 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:45,360 four or five people are all crazy as hell and they seem nice and then you know all of a sudden one 501 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:52,400 night in you know half their friends are getting you know killed and and i i said this to kendall 502 00:50:53,120 --> 00:51:00,080 earlier i i swear i have heard this story about this family before or i've seen like a representation 503 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:06,240 of it in a movie it has to be i don't remember what movie though it's been killing me this whole 504 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:11,680 episode you have to look that up i really i was trying to look up oh my god wait i was trying to 505 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:18,160 look up some of the names you were telling me and oh it has to be a movie like how it let's see 506 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:25,680 okay well there is one movie it's called bender and now that looks like it's based off of this but 507 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:31,760 doesn't seem like a huge film or anything but yeah like you said i'm sure there has to be something 508 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,600 out there about this because or at least referencing it yeah like even slightly because there's this is 509 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:43,600 a i mean i think this is literally one of the first i mean it's a killers in america and it's a 510 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:51,360 crazy story really and it's like you know wild west you set the scene way back when you know 511 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,360 it's it's a different time yeah i'm sure it's referenced i don't remember i think it's in a 512 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:04,560 leo movie you know i don't remember which one or like a leo the leo movie or maybe it was um 513 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:11,440 um god what was that movie we're uh you know i think i thought where it was i was a morgan freeman 514 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,000 was it not morgan freeman but uh i know you're talking about there was like a like four or five 515 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,920 big name actors in it and it was kind of like a comedy you're not talking about the jango are you 516 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,920 no not jango but like it was like kind of like a comedy and there's not no country for all men but 517 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:35,520 there's like four or five big name actors in this movie and they all end up in this and this cabin 518 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:42,640 yeah oh oh oh you're talking about the um um um tarantino film yes i can't remember the name 519 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,840 it's that movie hold on i want to look this up too i think that's what i've been talking about 520 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,360 this entire time you know i think you're onto something i think that might be like at least 521 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:59,680 influenced right oh my gosh wait because the people in that in that movie like the people who had the 522 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:07,440 cabin were crazy if i remember correctly they hatefully they hatefully yes oh i wonder oh 523 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,560 huh yeah that might that might be you never know huh that's cool uh that's interesting at least 524 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,000 wow and that was around the civil war area too and everything so yeah definitely a good movie by 525 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,920 the way if you guys haven't seen it that's a really great movie wow great connection i didn't even think 526 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:29,600 about that i'm like i'm so glad we remembered it because it's gonna bother me my brain for a long 527 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:36,560 time that was a good movie yeah yeah well sorry we got a little off course for a minute so the 528 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,440 question still remains where the hell did the benders flee off to and what happened in the benders 529 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:46,960 in well i found the perfect summary from crime reads that i just couldn't pass up thought it was 530 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:55,040 a perfect summary and this is what it said quote it is believed that guests were given the seat of 531 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:02,320 honor at a dining table which backed up against the canvas remember the right canvas divider and 532 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:09,840 was positioned over the trap door to the cellar once their victim was sitting one of the men 533 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:15,520 would knock the visitor out with a hammer from behind on the other side of the curtain one of 534 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:21,680 the women would then slit the victim's throat to make sure they were dead for good measure the body 535 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:28,320 would then be dropped through the trap door stripped and later buried or dismembered though 536 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:33,840 some victims were wearing valuable valuables or carrying cash a lack of targeting suggests that 537 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:41,760 benders killed just for the thrill like you said not for the money a lot of dozen bullet holes were 538 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:48,880 also found in the cabin likely from victims who tried to fight back one of the few items found 539 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:58,240 in the cabin was a bible with notes in german which identify john jr as john goop goop heart good 540 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:05,920 i think it's good hot i'm not sure this was as well as reports from neighbors to adjusting that 541 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:14,240 john jr and kate may have actually been a couple instead of a brother or sister in fact it is now 542 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:20,800 believed that none of the four were actually named bender and that the only mother and daughter were 543 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:29,760 related evira is select to have been born in amira mark and ultra-dark mountains and to have been 544 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:37,600 had multiple children and husbands some say who died of head injuries before she took up the bender 545 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:46,320 alias so john senior was likely born john finnich i think it's finnaker before immigrating from 546 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:54,160 germany or the netherlands and kate bender as a virus fifth child eliza griffith which was her real 547 00:55:54,160 --> 00:56:02,720 name crazy so in a whim they're basically saying that everything was bullshit and you could have just 548 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:08,800 been whoever you whoever the fuck you wanted and you could have just been like pretty much yeah my 549 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:15,360 name is jeremy now literally and i kill people just kidding i'm kevin i just think that's crazy 550 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:22,880 people you know i'm kevin well really just gives me chills it's just to think that you're going into 551 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:28,480 this cabin right you just walked you just walked or rode a horse for and you've been going for like 552 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:35,680 yeah and you're finally like oh here's a house let me pay for some food let me pay maybe rest my head 553 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:41,680 i'm tired you're sitting at this table and they're nice yeah they're feeding you and everything 554 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:46,400 next thing you know you're getting hit in the back of the head your six get your throats getting 555 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:53,920 slit and then they pull a lever unveiling a trap door and you're just bleeding out and then the next 556 00:56:53,920 --> 00:57:00,960 person comes in next person comes in like it's nothing that's insane to me insane to me that 557 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,920 that means fucking and then kate's going around like i could speak to your dead relatives because i 558 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,880 killed them oh she's full of shit yeah she definitely is and there was one thing i also wanted i wrote 559 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:16,800 down on paper i had also found that the location where the apple orchard and vegetable garden was 560 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:23,360 once known today was called or is called today hell's half acre which is also the name of the 561 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,880 novel i had read for this story by susan jonisus which is a really good read you guys should check 562 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:34,880 it out and i also found that anthropologists even today that have studied the benders for years are 563 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:41,120 confident that there are still bodies undiscovered buried beneath the surface of the land that benders 564 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:47,680 once owns a hundred percent hundred percent you said to yourself how they tried to find the bodies 565 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:53,840 yeah and like we don't know how long that family was there for and if they killed just that many 566 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,280 people and that many their definitely you think they just happened to start right around they got 567 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:05,600 caught no not it not a chance it just it that also gives me chills thinking like this this one 568 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:12,640 of quote family must have been doing this for a long years before they i mean they were i know 569 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,680 it's messed up to stay but they were good at it they were they they really were good at it that's 570 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:23,600 how they evaded they fooled everybody they really did after a while like if they weren't good at it 571 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:30,480 people like hey don't go to that cabin yeah and that's to keep keep keep the horse going yeah and 572 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,680 that's to the question where where did they go after this that's crazy no one knows who knows if 573 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:42,240 they just went up and did it somewhere else i'm sure or even if they split up and you know kept 574 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:48,240 doing it on their own we don't know no yeah the world is the states were so wild at that point 575 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:54,560 like there's no way of ever getting any information about that really no no they just had to go by 576 00:58:54,560 --> 00:59:00,880 way of ear i think i found a couple sources i said that you know after that whole thing happened 577 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:08,160 and they finally understood it was the benders this whole time there were a couple sightings i think 578 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:15,200 i they quote unquote saw or some witnesses say that they saw the benders or at least the ma and 579 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:22,480 daughter um in michigan at the time trying to escape from the united states up into canada 580 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:32,320 others say that they had seen sightings of the benders um overseas back in germany so who knows 581 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:37,120 but as far as we know they because they could have changed their name again vanishing vint vint 582 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:42,480 vint air yeah they were never found again and so this this case doesn't have justice unfortunately 583 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:50,720 for that sake but luckily they you know found out that this happened so we can tell the story today 584 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:57,600 and then then that it stopped at least in that area it just stopped in my area yeah so yeah that is 585 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:04,320 the chilling case of the benders or i'm sorry the bloody benders and i hope you guys really like 586 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,840 that one because that was that's interesting and i always like to bring it back to these bloody 587 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:18,240 crime stories so thank you to chris yeah thank you chris for giving us this story and i i don't have a 588 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,080 i don't think i've gotten any um listeners suggestions yet but if you guys have any 589 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:28,320 listeners suggestions you got time just send them in and just let me know so racy can reach us 590 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:38,880 on instagram we are at wtlgopodcast you can find me at this is kondall hudson you can find bri at 591 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:47,600 brianna 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