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Hey guys, so listen, okay well our apologies. I know we said that we were gonna post spooky episodes every Monday for October

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But we had a little bit of technical difficulties with our last episode

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We just want to make sure that we're putting out the best content we can for you guys

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So we decided to just scrap it and redo it and post it late

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But it is here. It is ready enjoy

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Oh

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What's your favorite scary movie?

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You know what actually I don't really have a favorite scary movie really like I like scary movies, but I don't really have a favorite

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I don't think I have one either. I'm not gonna lie. No, but I think about it

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You know why I have a couple like one size at just a people yeah

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I think my number one

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S of Lee would probably be hereditary because I love that movie so much. I tried watching but I like couldn't get into it

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I feel that it's psychological is very psychological

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It's also just so creepy if you pay attention to all those little details in the movie, which I think is something

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I just love about a film

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But yeah, hey guys. I'm Kendall. I'm B. And this is when the lights

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Thank you guys for all joining us today. This is a very fun episode

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I think

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Yeah, episode eight episode eight

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Oh, we're talking about first movies

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This is a really exciting episode. I've been wanting to do for a while

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Because I've always loved movies for as long as I can remember and I've just always wanted to talk a lot about movies all the time

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I know this is a

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Paranormal slash shoe crime podcast, but come on

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There are a lot of true crime happenings and paranormal happenings of an amovieset

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So yeah, let's not sit here and act like there's not oh yeah definitely and it's just really fun to to really know what happens behind

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You know close doors when you look at a film you watch it

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You see it like it or you don't like it

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But it's like what really happens behind the camera

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That's always something I've always wondered and so I just did a little scavenging and

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Well research and a little research and fun some cute movies to talk about today

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I'm sure everyone if not everyone most people have heard of these movies and yeah, let's just go right into it

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Okay, bye

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Oh, we're okay

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So our first movie is not a horn movie, but it is a fan favorite are

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Not a horn movie not a movie but curse yeah a first movie that I'll be talking about is the wizard of

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The Wizard of Oz for me is something I grew up with for a long time obviously

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I think a lot of us did it's not something I've watched more recently and I'm gonna because I think any time I've ever watched

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Was it if eyes maybe as an adult was if it came on maybe cable or even really watch cable anymore

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But yeah same yeah, so I'm like it's been a minute, but it is something that I think a lot of us like you know

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I don't even think I've ever fully watched the Wizard of Oz

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What really? Oh my god. I know right. That's crazy. I think I like one time halfway watched it

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Or maybe I fully watched it, but I just don't really remember all the the pieces

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Yeah, like I'm a grandma's house fair. Okay, that seems like one of the places you bought watch

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I go I'm movie like that

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Yeah, I think I have heard of some of the spooky half-mings that are related with this movie

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So let's see if you got them. Let's see if I got them. Well. I'm ready. Let's dive in

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So let's just start off. I'm just gonna

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Bit up this structure of the film. I'm sure a lot of us know about it, but I'll just kind of glance over real quick

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So those are of us is an American musical fantasy film that released on August 25th

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It had a budget of 2.8 million dollars and made 29 million in the box office. That's a lot of money

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29 million I wish I could walk around so I got that money

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Yeah, wow, and so this film was an adaptation actually of elf Frank bombs

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1990 children's novel the wonderful wizard of us

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It was directed the movie. Why is this directed by Victor Fleming who we?

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What's produced by Martin Lee Roy

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The movie stars Judy Garland who I hope y'all love because I love her

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I know her name. We do know her name. She's been in a couple of things. She's a hustle name. Yeah, yeah

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Frank Morgan, Ray Bulger, Bert Larr, and many other notable names

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So just a really quick film some options of what happens to your off the movie

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A tornado of course rips throughout Kansas sending our main character Dorothy play by Judy Garland and her talk to a

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magical man of Oz

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She embarks on a journey to find her way back home and then line the race

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She runs into various creatures of Oz including a scarecrow that needs to brain a

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Ten-man missing a heart and the cartley land that wants a little more a cartoon his life and along the way

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They encounter a wicked witch of the west also glinda the good witch and awesome self

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And I crossed so many others you have to move you great movie guys go ahead and see it so

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Within this time period, around the time of the film's release

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There was a very gloomy era going on in the history

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We had the great depression and world war two yeah, it was like the 1930s or 1930s. Yeah, good job

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Good, you're so very good

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I've had a little bit of a history

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I history glasses and college paid off seriously now saying no, I took a I took a finger too

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Relieved with so many different hidden gems throughout it which I didn't realize until I say reading about this movie so

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A couple different hidden gems. I just completely wanted to just go over was still a yellow pick road that reflected the journey of wealth

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Wiser to be loved

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courage and home, you know home as part of the heart is

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The fucking flying monkeys which kind of resemble in a way

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Um war and even down to the point of when the linkies are marching like Nazis

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So the film itself was a difficult film to come out with in the beginning because of the consistent recastings

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skirt problems and set problems and

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He had put on a hundred pound costume made from real lions pel for hours on end

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Stop I heard about this is not crazy

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Lion pal. Yeah, imagine going into a whole ass side with those hot ass

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Beaming down on you and then having to like act. I just couldn't do it. Probably smells too

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Oh, yeah, I thought I was saying about that too because I don't think he could really take it off because I would be something that would be like a big

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Project to do you what have to take all the makeup off you have to take all those different things off of itself

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And there would be a lot to put that gone so between takes

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He was still have to wear throughout the day. Which is just imagine like going to the grocery store

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Oh my god, I look at it's I will warm up to you trying to take pictures. I could imagine

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So production would make Bert sip and food through a straw which is kind of gross can imagine and not to mention

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So you're getting that radiation from the heat among with his hunter pond outfit. It's a lot. It's a lot going on

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No kidding. So we also have actor buddy Epstein who is known for his roles in the Beverly Hillbilly's

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Barnaby Jones and breakfast at Tiffany's which I

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We wise of problematic well because they had a definite big problem with the

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I guess culture of it all there was a scene

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Where if you remember there is a Asian man who is her I guess her oh her neighbor. Yeah her neighbor and he's actually a white guy

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Just as a nation guy

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So I only watch a little bit of it though. I don't think I watched the more

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I'll just let some of my watch that movie. Well, that's in my watch that movie was I'm gonna say

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I want to say that was like years ago. I had taken it as a film class in school

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And I think he had went over it briefly and that was the first time I saw it and I meant I

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Realized all these things at one time, so that's how I kind of saw it, but yeah, T

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So the guy was very popular in his day again, but he Epstein and he was the actor who I originally was casted as a 10 man

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But never finished the job

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Oh, I thought I said fly. Okay

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This is the best so the makeup that the production had initially used for the 10 man

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It was comic up, but they also had coded him on that second layer with heavy layers of grounded aluminum

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Obviously not healthy for you. It's not something you should put on your skin whatsoever

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Really and it has high levels when exposed to the skin

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That can kind of go into your bloodstream and create some just so many different health problems and according to the CDC health problems

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Alzheimer's bone or brain disease and

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He ended up being fired from the film and to follow up on Titus for the rest of his life

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Talk about literally no, that's so shitty

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That's literally it's not this show he's on earth. Yeah, this movie

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They are putting poison on him and then they get mad when he can't perform because they poisoned him

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So we fire it. Thank you. I'm a lot like fun

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disease. Yes, yeah, I grow and I'm like how the fuck does that

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This is fair the name of that well the name of the dozer guy director was

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Um, that uh, oh Victor funding was the name of the Victor director. Yeah, and wait till we get to the endings of the stuff

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Let's talk about the scene with the snow in the poppy field very interesting scene

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So in the scene if I recall correctly Dorothy and the tin man the lion the scarecrow and even total are walking through a field of

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POPPY's which are like little cute flowers. Yeah, and um, I think what happens is the wicked which puts like like a kind of a spell on the poppy

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So it makes entire and so what Glinda does to get a Glinda the goat witch is she kind of sprinkled a little bit of snow on to them to wake them up

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Which is a class of different minerals that form fibers to small

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To see to by the human eye but are definitely there and

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There are so so many old homes out there that I still built with usbestos walls if you remember we talked about it briefly in our

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For a step of so with H.A. Toms

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He had built usbestos walls to drown out all the screaming when he killed people and

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There are so many homes like I said out there that have them a lot of them are older not good, but I'm that healthy and

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When asbestos can get into your system it can actually cause asbestitis

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Plurobilesies long cancer and mesophenium

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Not if you are a loved one

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Who are you in a loving?

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You may be in a little to compensation

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Oh, we've awesome that come with us so we all

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Yeah, I'm talking about that was like what like 2010 to like yeah, and it can cause really bad things like that and then definitely just look something they're all breathing in

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I'm talking about that

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loud parties yeah, and even just

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He didn't cause any harm, which is a good thing

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But he did get it confiscated and I'm not sure what happened at him but if it was me as a director

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I don't follow fire guy because

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That is to be a remade movie. I love that

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Oh, I like reading guns isn't that the life well crazy enough

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Going into our next kind of topic here. Well, not even. I'm sorry because there's actually a movie that's called under the rainbow

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That was released in 1981

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It was actually created to sort of mock what the little people were up

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Supposedly doing in the whole town and during filming

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Um, sorry the filming had starred Carrie Fisher and Chevy Chase which big names

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Carrie Fisher if you guys know she started and

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Lentpoon films if you remember him he's a dad and all of them so that was that and then

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There's that movie but

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Watch it with tendency because it is a little racy so something to know

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So then we have a Margaret

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So according to slash film.com. This was her first big role

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Definitely. Oh, I'm so oh and it's just so sad how she's cast it into it because

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Casting directors were looking for a role for a pretty and attractive woman

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To portray the witch but decided to cast Hamilton as

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Cut-on-put the ugly witch

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And during production while filming the wicket which is first appearance and accident at the same time

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Which by the way they had to take several shots for because they can only get one shot at the time for some crazy reason

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Hamilton, Whibber call filming telling her you know quote, I want this shot done right and I want to done right now

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Aceters so much chemical on your skin and then even after that market Hamilton

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Just missed the tank and a tank exploded on site causing her

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Same her to the hospital that was really sad so production stopped to were cast a

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Another stunt woman to finish a film so let's talk about Judy Garland our favorite lover

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So Judy Garland herself was pretty mentally unwell while filming this movie as well

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She was put on a strict diet

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But coffee and up to 10 cigarettes a day

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What was it too really young?

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Yeah, she was really young. She was 16 years old. What?

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I think I had a smoking 10 wait. Sorry 10 to 80 cigarettes daily

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And I'm like that way wrong

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Way wrong. Yeah, 10 to 80. I can't imagine I can barely you had a like a vape pen once I'm a bugging sick

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I can't even wave or smoke and she's been 16 years old. Yeah, no

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80 no kidding and I guess I don't know even specifically if that was on production or her

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But I can't even imagine that stress builds up so I'm mixing really want to do stuff to your body to kind of

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Put your mind at ease

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She looked on pills or something. Yeah, she was I was getting to that could be oh my gosh

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So yeah like breathes as she was kind of fed drugs to sustain her hunger and to get for false energy because she was told

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If she gains even a pound she'll be kicked off and replaced us

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Bro yeah, man sucks. Oh no and it's so bad too because eventually she got addicted to the drug

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Said we get there and later on kind of effective her health which is so sad

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Yeah, because she's 16. Yeah. Oh, that's little true. I don't even think about that when you're a young kid

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Things like that get addictive and that's all you know and it's kind of how you just carry on life

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Yeah, it's just so sad to think about

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So there is also a scene in the wasit of odds when Dorothy is kind of yelling at the lion

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Because I guess the lion knew that total and she kind of just let kids a little stop on the nose

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And I guess if you reference back to the movie you can still see it where Dorothy's kind of just giggling a little bit because she can't keep a straight face

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And they actually be took the scene many of times and there was a certain point when Victor filming got kind of tired of Judy

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What's like oh no, don't ever don't ever touch me

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Where the child labor laws oh yeah, it's 1930s

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That's very true. Yeah, that is so sad to think about wow guys

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And there is the most well-known conspiracy of the mall

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You got this one, Bree

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I was drinking

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Yes, you was drinking the months getting hanging in the back. Is it that one?

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Yeah, see got it

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That's so bad. That's not funny. This isn't funny. It's the way I saw it. Okay, that's why that works. Yeah

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I remember on Twitter, I used to follow like I don't know when Twitter was like first had a cool like in 2015

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Yeah, that was yeah first-minute of high school

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I used to follow a lot of like weird like Twitter pages or whatever where what they would post like creepy

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You spares season stuff like unsettling disturbing whatever

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Pictures and stuff and I remember seeing that one and it's a little munchkin and he's hanging in the back of the scene

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Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about

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Okay, I guess me the cheddar is I don't know something but hitters. Oh, I can't do it. I can't do it

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So yeah, there is an ongoing rumor that in one of the scenes you can spot a hanging munchkin and the background

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After a munchkin had a letter allegedly hung themselves

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The apparently was part of the actual kite and when they learned or sorry I'll say when mgm

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Warrant that that dark spot in the upper right had corner me had been a little person that hanged themselves

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From a lighting grid they took it out

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According to cursed film stocking minorities

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You can actually kind of see this happen in the actual collector's edition of the movie

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Some people have it most people don't in the actual

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Film that's out for everybody

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You won't see it so they replaced it with a bird but there is a actual

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Film kind of what me look like a munchkin that's hanging in the background. Was this ever confirmed or denied?

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They never confirmed the NGM never confirmed this there was a editor

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I want to say in early 2000s around the time Twitter was a thing and everything when there was a editor that had

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Hooked's the movie or hooks a part of the movie and kind of sent it out to everyone to make it look like there is a hanging munchkin

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Yeah, um that you know it's a hook but the actual film itself had never been disclosed as if it was real or not well

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Publicize it or something right?

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That's what I have for you. No, there's no way that this big

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Have that a secret and had to cut the family quiet unless it's a really good. That's a really good point

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That's the two points I thought about to where that that's that maybe there is a point where you know

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Maybe they have paid off the family they really want to keep this hush hush because movie got so big

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That they're just like this isn't worth

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Running a film for yeah, or maybe you're right maybe it was just something that people thought they saw and it just didn't really

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Yeah, like just like a conspiracy. Yeah, don't you think I could see this being real about it's just that you know like I had said

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There was rumors that the people that played the munchkins were having parties and crazy things

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I happen at their hotel maybe something to happen maybe someone got really depressed who knows but you know

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I have this if it's real

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Oh, yeah, oh my gosh, so I guess that's just something we'll never know about

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So the second movie that I had research for us is the Pulter guys

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What's his name?

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Shit everyone's yelling into the microphone right now. I mean to the speaker right now

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Sounds like a fuck his name

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I was like oh my heart you do too that was like that big free dude. Oh

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That's no I don't think that's his name

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Simon would be so mad at me right now fuck what is very

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All the stars loveers are putting me on the last right now

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What's they right? Oh, yeah, okay, okay fun fact

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I know I've only seen the

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Original Star Wars is because my dad it's a huge Star Wars fan

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I won't say a huge one but he's seen all the movies

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That's only reason why I've seen all them I haven't caught up on the new ones don't at me for it at least I think the regular is so that's all I care about

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I would never seen Star Wars don't at me

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Don't come at me. Oh, yeah, I'm nervous of Maro guys. I'm sorry mad at me enough

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That's very mad at both of us cool. That's cool. All right, so the polchagized the polchagized is an American horn mystery

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Such the earlier supernatural film wow for the a lot of different categories

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That is actually rated PG

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PG yeah, not PG 13 no crazy enough

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I did hear from one of the podcast. I once listened to that's a horror movie podcast that

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Back and I want to say that 80s

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They actually didn't have a peach either teen out think I think it was just g pg and rated R

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That's kind of weird right

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I think 13 is like a good middle ground. Yeah, I kind of like this is childrens and this is like

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Ronchy yeah, that's what I kind of feel like yeah, I agree. I could be wrong though

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Maybe you guys can look it up so it was released on June 4th of 1982 with a budget of 10.7 million dollars

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It made 121.8 million dollars on the box office holy shit. That's a lot of money

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So the film was written by Steven Spielberg also a MGM film just like the wonderful was sort of awesome

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Wonderful was in a van

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And it was directed by Tob Hopper who is also notable for his oh Tob Hopper

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Where is that written? I knew that's what that's felt

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That really is Tob. I told you it's Tob

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Tob Hopper

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Hopper I kind of looked at it wrong to us like it's not Tobie. No, I think it's Tob

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Tob Hopper. There's also a very notable director who

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Also directed the Texas chainsaw massacres

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I think I saw the first one the first one is really good. It's like I had a fixed time

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He's like really creepy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'm like the remake is

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Jessica Biel who is also Justin Timberlick's wife

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Take teeth. I love it. So the movie stars Heather or Rourer. Sorry let's say that wrong

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Heather oh

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Work I want to say work Heather work. Wait, where you at this one? Heather or oh

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Work work work. I think it's a work work

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Oh, Rourer. Okay. Oh, Rourer. Okay. Oh, Rourer. Okay. Oh, I'm gonna say I work it's not easier. Okay. So

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That is the movie stars with Heather or work Joe Beth Williams and Craig Nelson and I'll just

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Sharp films that um synopsis a family of five

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We love the notes and lapses

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I feel a family of five by the name of the Freelings experience change occurrences when the ghosts

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communicate with them through a television set

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What starts as a innocent game between one of the children that Carol and Freelings who is played by Heather work

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soon turns into a very sinister game when Carol goes missing her parents Steve and Diane and must turn to

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a paracetologist and accesses to help they soon also find that their home sits right on top of a

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agent burial ground. Oh, not the burial ground. We always need that burial ground in our lives.

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It's a burial ground. Oh, I gotta love it. So Joe Beth Williams who played Diane Freelings the mom

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is in a scene where she sinks into a muddy sink hole of skeletons. I've heard this since

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also on one of the Twitter creepy things. Creepy conspiracy. Yes. Yes. And so the rumor

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insists that production have flown real cadavers from India and use them on set which is the

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which is kind of what sparked the alleged curse. I think India too correct me if I'm wrong.

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I'm pretty sure India too has like this thing where they actually do dig up like the bodies

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of the dead. I think you're right. I think around something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if that's

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for sure accurate. I think I've definitely heard something like that. I've seen like pictures of it

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like to respect their loved ones or stuff. Yeah. So I wouldn't be surprised if they're from

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I wouldn't be there. But I feel like I wonder I mean I wonder the legality is of that too. Is that

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even? I mean like for if that's like a tradition like that's fine. But what's it on the same? Ship them from

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from like ship could and anywhere in America where they like are the families like consent

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where they dug up. Oh, that's a good question. I don't even know about it. Or that might be

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Chondos and you know, maybe it's like that. But if they are real cadavers, my question too is

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how safe is that? Like even if it's beyond just being cursed like I can't imagine how safe it could be

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to put you in a sinkhole with a whole bunch of real modified bodies. Like type of weird something.

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Sickness of something. Is that no? Oh my god. That's like clean. Yeah, that's super clean. But even

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that I'm like, oh no thank you. Give me away from that. So. Oh wait where did we go on the

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same solution? I'm like okay we got that puzzle. Okay. So that had a literally sparked the curse

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of the Pultschak ice films. Oh yeah because it's a bunch of dead people like being disturbed

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and being disturbed and being dead and I'm using your freaking skeleton in a movie. I'm not going to lie.

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Hey bitch. I have a kind of low vibe. I would like I would be possessed of my body like this.

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Hey, if this is I love to be. If this is out and I'm gone by the time that this is well and

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don't please use it. You have my permission. Use me in the film. That's how I'm talking.

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You're so fine. I'm finally on TV. If I can be famous now, let me be famous after death.

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So Dominique Dunn, who plays Donna Freeling in the film, which is one of the sisters or one of

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the daughters, at the time Dominique had filmed the movies. Dominique was actually in a relationship

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with her then boyfriend John Thomas Sneenie. Okay Miss Dominique. Okay Miss Dominique. She

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don't butter then I am. But wait because yeah he was a nice guy. He was a chef at a upscale

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ma ma ma Zal Restaurant in LA making money. Yeah he was a happy cooking. But according to the

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LA times, the two met at a party and quickly moved in together. Those swinging it quickly became

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very abusive. He would actually abuse her so badly and when instant she would

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be beat so badly that she didn't even require makeup for a film that required her playing in a

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abused child. What crazy. So their relationship got so hectic that Dominique eventually broke out

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with Sneenie. Yeah good. Yeah I'm like well yeah the way he did. How many do I'm sure he did something.

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Who. So on I've tougher 30th 1982 which is the same year the film was released. Sneenie showed up

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to her home where she was rehearsing lines with her co-star David Packer for a new project. Packer

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Hacca on a side to allow them a little room to talk in an argument between Dominique and John

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had broke um broken out ending in Dominique getting brutally strangled and sent to the hospital where

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she was pronounced brain dead and had passed away on November 4th 1982. What an act.

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At the age of 22. He's a murderer. He's a murderer. Yeah. That's our age. Like I'm

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holy shit. And crazy enough he only served three years. Three years. Seven months. No.

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For the murder. And once released he changed his name and when he was last heard from he was moving

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to Southern California. The justice system is corrupt. What the fuck?

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Co-rots. I don't even want to get started with that. Crazy. And like it's just so sad to

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the thing that this poor girl have been through all that with this guy. She's doing great.

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There's another case I'm going to cover at some point that's about another star who had

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that's crazy fan. And I'm not sure if you know about that one. But she had had this crazy fan.

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And she was doing really good for a self-adjust time. And unfortunately it was kind of a similar

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thing. Because she was on with this guy. It was just a crazy fan. And he had just shot her

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blankly when she opened her door. And it's just crazy. I couldn't imagine being a

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re-guessing. Yeah. Okay. And I can imagine just being a young female in Hollywood having to

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go with crazy stuff like that. I'm always hearing about like Hollywood's stars. I have like

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these crazy fans or like axes or things like that that come onto like their terror. Like they're

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just crazy already. And then they want to cause harm to them. It's just so sad to me.

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Being famous is scary. Being famous is scary. And I forget that sometimes. I think oh my god.

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If you saw nice. And then I remember this. Yeah. So.

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Oh wait. Where'd I go? So then on May 23rd, 1986 the Pulitzer-Guys 2 releases. And many of the same

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characters are in it. The budget was 19 million. It sold 75 million in the pop-sophos. The film was

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about freelings escaping their haunted home. And being in the home is being studied by

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paranormal researchers. And one of the researchers names was Taylor in the movie. This is played by

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Bill Sampson. So Taylor realizes that this demon like entity is mesmerating as a reverend and

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trying to find young Carol. So he goes to the family to warn them that you know, hey it's happening

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once again. You're in great danger. Her father must do everything he can to have beenquished this beast

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and deliver the day. So while filming this movie, the actor Bill Sampson was an

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native American Indian who was also a shaman. A shaman is kind of like a healer of sorts.

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And he was allowed on set after hours to perform an exorcism to read the production of evil.

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Not an exorcism of the whole as exorcism on set. But crazy enough, a couple years after it's

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released Sampson dies of kidney failure and meldutrition at age 53. I know. And then Jolian back

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who played the cult leader in the second installment of the film died of stomach cancer before

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the film even released. He died at age of 60. Damn, we got three deaths. This movie is killing.

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This movie got a body. My god, my body hurt in the mind. So. So. So and then there's the

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Pulchrystery, that released on June 10, 1988 with the same similar characters and the same

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director, the movie had a budget of 9.5 million and made 14 million in the pox office, which is

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pretty still good to me. At this point in the trilogy, it's about the main character Carol,

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the little girl who sent to live with her uncle Bruce and Chicago. But she gets haunted by

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familiar apparitions from the previous films and these apparitions, students are taking over her

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through a mirror dimension. So let's just quickly discuss the main character Heather O'Rope.

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I keep saying her name wrong. Oh my god, it's so sad. Heather O'Work. There we go.

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So Heather played the little adorable blonde girl with blue eyes. I'll be all me know that

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carried that really famous line, you know, there heeer. Oh. And throughout filming the Pulchrystery,

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Heather unfortunately became very ill. She was thinned like nose but constices and was thin

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treated but steroids at the time. But one morning, when the crew in the cast was supposed to be

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meeting up, director Tob Hopper received a chewing call from her agent telling him that she unfortunately

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passed away. What? And yeah, it's just very sad. So this happened while doctors were actually attempting

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to repair a acute bowel obstruction that caused what doctors thought was the reason for her illness.

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But sadly, Heather was misdiagnosed. According to L.A. Times, she suffered such a shock at the H.A.

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12 years old on February 1, 1988. Only several months before the third installment ever came out.

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Unfortunately, before the doctors could realize it, it was too late to notice that she had been

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diagnosed. So what she really had was a undetected, congenial, adenomical birth defects. Which

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basically just means that she had a mass that was inside of her and it wasn't noticed until last

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minute. That's kind of too late. They just didn't get to it in time. That's so sad that she was

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misdiagnosed. It was just so sad. She was like 12. Like, how do I? She didn't have a wife and that's

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the last one she was in. It was just crazy because I don't even think that a little girl that's

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in films like that can have a wife outside of her movie roles is this crazy to me. I don't think

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any child can have a life, a real life that they want to have. You know, because they're working.

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They're working at such a young age. So right, I just want to know how can any child have a life

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like that? And then she just dies at such an age. Just is so sad. Now, I didn't find any crazy

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feelings about the latest culture guy said came out. They did make a remake. I had nothing on that,

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but there was crazy enough actors who had gotten some illnesses while on set and some equipment

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problems did happen often on and it did prolong the production. So it took a very long time for

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the production to come out. But luckily, we don't have anything there. So hopefully that

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Chris has lifted. I don't know. Just so I'll make any more. Yeah, I'm saying maybe they should

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stop making those pictures. Guys, films. Yes, I definitely agree. But yeah, those are the two films

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that I have for us today. This is only our first chapter one of Chris films. Guys, if you really

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like this, let us know because we want to do this more. This is fun. We like this. There's so many more.

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I definitely want to cover some good ones that I've heard of. The Omen. What's that one? Something

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holocaust. Fuck. Anyways, there's a lot of them. And I definitely want to cover as many as possible

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because this is a cute little spooky episode. Yes, I love it. And yeah, I don't know if you'll ever,

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I don't know if you'll, you know, what the future holds for us with coming out with more

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themes like this for cursed movies. But you never know. We are working on Patreon. So we might have

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actually episode stare. You never know. You never know. So yeah, guys, that's what I have for us today.

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And Halloween is almost here. I'm so excited. Okay, so you said, oh my god, I'm not ready for

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Halloween to be over. I'm not ready for, yeah. I mean, Halloween, I'm not ready for October

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v over. This is like my favorite montage side of November because birthday,

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her birthday is coming up. Oh, I see. Oh, my piece. Oh, my piece.

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Orpiosy. Yeah, it starts late October. Okay. Squabby, I'll see you. We are thriving.

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Yeah, we are in our season. Here you go. Thank you.

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All right, y'all, it's time for my bit. As always, waste,

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me keep my account private though. Facebook is when the light goes out. We don't really post

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down there. So go go hype it up. Anyway, please Twitter, WTLGO podcast as well, just like Instagram

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and email people send us emails. I've got none, but I've got a lot of people send me DMs.

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That's something. Email is WTLGOincrease at gmail.com. There you can send us any ideas you have.

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Stories you have. What else? Honestly, your thoughts on our show. Yeah. Feedback tells how great

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we are. Tell us how terrible 100% we need all of it. Tell us what we should do more. Also,

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I can fix things. Hey, if any of you guys out there, because I know someone has to be out of

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all the people I are listening. If any of you are podcasters and you have any tips for us,

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send them to us. Try on the sea because we're still in our baby phase. So let's do kidding.

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Yeah, seriously. Not me just like brain farting. Anyway, if you're interested in this

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comment or email any stories you have, paranormal, murder mysteries, anything. We would like to do

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future listener stories as well. I say it in every episode, hoping that someone will send in

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their experiences. I know some of you all have some. Yeah, I'm a fool.

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Anybody, we would take anybody listening. But yeah, thank you so much for supporting us and listening

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to episode 8. And sticking around for this long. Thank you for, I thought, oh, we got a hair

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remember. Thank you for giving us feedback and telling us how much you like the show. We really

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appreciate it. Shout out to those people. We love you so so much. Thank you so much for your

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support. Honestly, don't forget please, please, please hit that follow button. I know you see it.

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If you haven't already. I know you see it. It's sitting there. It's waiting for you.

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If you want to hit that bitch. I looked for it. Yes. I got not physically hit like, like,

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fuck. I love that. What a great way to wrap that up. I'm so excited. Anyway, thanks for

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supporting us and we're excited to see what the future holds. As always, I say that every episode

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but seriously. Definitely. And of course, we will see you all when the lights goes out. Bye.

