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I'm Kendall. I'm Bree. Oh, that was so fake. Let me say it again. Yeah, you were really

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more like, I'm Kendall. No, I'm not. I'm Kendall. I'm Bree. And this is when the

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light goes out. Whoa. Hey, everyone. So how's the week been going? I forgot you can't say

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anything because we're recording this pre record. So, oh, well, but I hope everyone's having a good

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week so far. When this comes out, it is obviously a nice Friday and we have a second part to our

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Eileen Wernos case. Let me tell you, I'm excited for part two. Our part two is pretty crazy.

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Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, literally, God, I have 10 pages worth of notes to get through. 10 pages.

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So we won't keep on too much banter or anything because I want to dive in and I don't want to

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waste too much time. But so just a quick summary of part one, just in case anyone may have forgotten

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or just in case you may have skipped part one. Yeah, and if you skip part one, you should

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probably go watch it just so you can get a good feel on the background of her life. Yeah,

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I should definitely go back and listen to part one. I'm not gonna lie. It is important to know

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why that she did what she did. Yes, and I'm really glad that I started the first one out with

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mostly just her childhood and her upbringing because I think that just really set the foundation.

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When we were here last week, we talked about Eileen Wernos and how she was raised in a very

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terrible household growing up after her mother had gave her up and sorry, her and her brother up for

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pretty much adoptions gave her off to her grandparents. She had been molested by multiple

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men, including her grandfather and her grandfather's friends at an early age of 11. We had said how

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she had found that prostitution was just a preferred line of work and she had just indulged in a lot

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of drugs and alcohol. And then she eventually had given birth to a baby boy. She got kicked out of

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her grandfather's house. She then embarked on a terrible journey through the state's doing

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prostitution. She eventually made it to Florida where she was with to go to Louisville and divorced

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after beating him over the head with a cane. Not the cane. And then went on to go her merry way

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and commit a lot more criminal activities. So that's where we left off. So a decade after

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marrying and divorcing Louisville in 1986, Eileen had went into a gay bar called Zodiac Bar in Daytona,

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Florida, which I don't know if that's still open, but shout out to the guys shout out to the guys.

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Do you want to go to a gay bar? Where she obviously was getting heavily

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trasted and wasted. I put Traceda to wasted and she had ran into a young woman. Now this woman is

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a really sweet woman. She was just an electric blonde with really a beat attitude and they really

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got to know one another. Now this woman at the time was 24 years old named Tyria Moore. Now in

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part one, I did call her Tyra, which I'm so sorry. That's just a quick fix I had to mention because

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I want to make sure I get most of the names right. But I also wanted to just also mention that

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throughout their time together, they went by Lee and Ty. So Eileen went by Lee and you know,

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Tyria went by Ty. So it's kind of easier. I might go back and forth to that sometimes

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throughout this. I just want to also mention that this is probably one of Eileen learning

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those most important relationships. So also nice to just know. So a weeks prior to their

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meeting, Ty had just gone through a lot of disagreements with her family, her hometown of

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Candace, Ohio in general, just made her feel really unwanted for her sexual orientation,

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which brought her to moving to Daytona to be a hotel maid. And then she would occasionally go

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to bars and clubs and looking just to meet new people with similar interests to her. And it

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didn't take very long for them, both Eileen and for Tyria to start really bonding and they

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became really close. Eventually, shortly after they became a couple. Now this relationship was

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really important for Eileen because she was always on the move and was never really in love

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quote unquote with the man that she had met along the way. But Ty was different. I get it. Yeah,

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I love love. I get it. We love a gay relationship. We love the gaze. We love the gaze. But she felt

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a real bond with her. She found love with someone who had left her back and she started really

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learning how to love. Now Eileen really wanted to provide for Ty and care for her in the best

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ways that she could. One thing I did want to mention was that at the time Ty was 24 and at

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the time Eileen was 30. Now nothing against you know, any age differences because I know I like

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my older man. But I do want to say that I think Tyria had found Eileen at a very vulnerable

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stage because she had just gone through a lot at home and then she had met her right after

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moving to Daytona. So I want to say that going through this definitely had something to do with

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that. And you know, the million dollar question is how could Eileen love and care for Tyria if

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she could barely love herself? This is about a dot of mine. Fair point. Fair point, right. So what

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made matters worse was that we convinced Ty to quit her nine to five at as a hotel maid to spend

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more time with her and told her quote, you know what, you don't need a job. I'll take care of

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you unquote. But it started getting really difficult for Eileen because she made all that money. But

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it wasn't enough to support two people. They would start living in cheap hotels. They would move

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around to, you know, apartments sometimes together. And when things got really bad, they would literally

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stay out in the woods. Kind of like how Eileen did when she was younger, if you remember. Yeah,

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on her own. Yeah. Which honor can never live in the woods. No, how can someone live in the woods?

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Like, I don't understand that. But I couldn't do that. Not me. I'm too, I'm too proppy for that

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life. I need my bathroom. Yes, literally. I need my bed. Same. I definitely, I definitely agree.

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Very blessed. And now this is another factor that I wanted to also mention. It's that Eileen was a

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sex worker and Ty kind of figured that out. But she hated it about her. She really wanted her to

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stop and she really tried to get her to stop multiple times. But it's just all that Eileen knew.

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So they were together for a solid four years. And Eileen became more and more desperate as the

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times went on to support for the both of them. And she started to believe that if she didn't start

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rigging up enough cash, Ty would just eventually leave her. And so to ensure that this didn't

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happen, Eileen went on to commit her first murder. Yikes. Seriously. So the time was November 30th

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of 1989. 51 year old Richard Mallory owns a electronics repair store in Clearwater, Florida.

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He'd often frequent the nightclubs in Daytona Beach area and beyond his ownership of his

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repair store. He had a criminal record also as a convicted rapist. Oh my God. Oh yeah. So keep that

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in the back of your mind because that does come back. Now that same night of November 30th going

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into December 1st of 1989, he spotted Lee waiting with her thumb up on the side of the road and

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picked her up in his 1977 Cadillac along in their state 75 for a good time. But things didn't go

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exactly as planned. They pulled over to a secluded spot on the road where Eileen then pulls out a

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22 caliber pistol. She always kept on her and shoots Mallory four times in the chest before

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dumping his body in the woods wrapped in a rug and takes the Cadillac. Dang. Just like unprovoked?

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Unprovoked. But I think later on we'll also find that she found a reason to do this. And I think

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I'll make more sense later too. Okay. Now her first murder is often debated as Eileen claims to

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like you just said that you know, what does she do as in self-defense or you know, as the state

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claims does she do this in blood? But take the evidence as you will. Like I said, in part one,

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a lot of the given information is according to Eileen, but also note that not only did she steal

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his car, she stole his money and a lot of his personal items and then let the scene. Yeah.

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She robbed him and left. She robbed them and left. Oh, I like that. That should be like a

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band name. Robbed, murdered and left.

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No, on the same end, he was also a convicted rapist. So well, it's probably better that he's not alive.

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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, also, I just put on my notes too that I remember watching that movie Monster

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that we talked about. By the way, that was a really good movie. That was a really good movie.

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I don't know if we emphasize that enough in the first episode. That's a really good movie.

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Go watch that movie after this episode, please, because it is so good.

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Charlize Theron, Theron, you're amazing. I love you. Also, we fucked up on knowing her

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partner's name. It was Christina Richie. I looked that up. Christina Richie.

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Yes. I'm like, how can I forget that? Yeah. Okay. That's definitely Christina Richie.

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That's Christina Richie. I don't know how the fuck I forgot about that. But

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but I'm sorry, like as I said in the movie, the movie suggests that her first kill was in

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self-defense. So I mean, see the movie, tell us what you think about that, but it definitely

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has its bull sides. So yeah. So Lee goes back to the motel where her entire were staying with a

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Cadillac. She goes back to the hotel with a Cadillac. And the first thing she tells Ty is,

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I killed a man today. But

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the imagine just sitting on a bed waiting for like your man or your significant other to come home

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and then just. I'm just watching the door right now. I was like, I killed somebody. I would have

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been like divorced. Get the hell out of my house now. Get out of my house. What is the reason?

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So not only does Ty know how Lee makes her money, which he is already uncomfortable with, but

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Eileen also says, you know, Hey, I killed a man today. So I don't know how the fuck to feel about

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that. At least she's honest. Hey, she busted that door saying that too. Yeah. I'm kidding.

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But the reoccurring statement from Eileen suggests that it was in self-defense. And she told Ty that

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it was in self-defense. I had no choice. He was going to rape me and kill me, which was enough

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for Ty to believe. And I understand parts of the institution is dangerous. And it's a dangerous

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field of work. But we have to look at the next several murders to really understand what is and

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isn't self-defense. So Lee eventually had driven the Cadillac to a remote location not far from

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where she dropped the body. And the car was later discovered, abandoned days later. On December

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13, 1986, two men discovered Mallory's body in a woody area underneath a piece of carpet. The

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decomposition stage had already taken place. So the corner had identified the body via fingerprints

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and determined that this was in fact the body of Richard Mallory. He had died of foreground

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shots to the chest, but four. But police had no leads. They didn't know what to do at this point.

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It was kind of random because, again, I don't think a lot of women at the time were convicted

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serial killers. And she was the first one. Yeah. So it was kind of just like what the hell do we

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do now kind of thing. Meanwhile, as investigation continued, both Lee and Ty started to pawn his

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belongings that Eileen had taken out of his car and use that money and the money that she stole.

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Side note, what did this man keep in his car that they could pawn? I have like a hat that my

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godbaby left in my car and a sticker in my backseat. There is nothing to pawn in mine.

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That's a good question. I don't even think about that because I'm thinking about my car. I'm like,

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I think my car is the only valuable thing itself. I know. I think my actual car is like...

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I don't know what else actually I could... I'm thinking now what the hell is in my car that

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someone could actually pawn if they wanted to? Like I literally have nothing of value. I clean

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my car out like there's nothing in there. So I don't think they would... He has a really nice car, guys.

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I have another hand. Thanks. No, I have a nice car. It's just a little old. Well, it's not that old,

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but it's not new. I mean, to be fair, I literally just pawned my car like last year, I think.

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Yeah. Was it last year? Oh, yeah. It was last year. It's a Bronco, guys, if you're asking.

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So like I said, where was I? I'm sorry. Oh, so like I said, they have pawned his things, yes, and

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taken his things to the pawn shop. They got rid of his car. And now that Eileen has done this,

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she doesn't really commit her next murder until less than a year later in May of 1990.

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But I do question why the next murder took so long to commit just because I mean, if she's

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doing this maybe specifically out of money, like was she good after that? Was he

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did he have enough in his car to like... Or was it really self-defense? Or was it... Yeah.

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Because if it was for money, then you'd think there would have been more in between.

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Yeah, that's true. But if it actually is self-defense, it would make more sense as to why they were

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so far in between, I guess. Yeah. And why she waited so long to commit the next one.

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Yeah, because maybe the other... What do they always call... John's?

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John's, yeah. I think they call them John's. Yeah, they call them John's.

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Because maybe the other John's were in a threat. Yeah, that's what I think too.

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Maybe. Well, tell me your thoughts at the end. All right, so May of 1990, 43-year-old father of three,

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David Spears, was a construction worker that had Matt Eileen on the streets and picked her up.

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And after driving several miles to another designated area, Eileen took out her 22-caliber

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pistol and shot him six times in the torso. Six. Six times. These are a lot of gunshots for

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self-defense. Self-defense. That's what I'm saying. And wait till her trial and see what she says,

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because I think her trying to back up herself and trying to clear her name is just the shittiest...

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In the shittiest ways. And it kind of frustrates me, because I do want her to be locked up if

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obviously this is something that she's doing on purpose. But like if you're getting, you know,

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harassed or something, someone is doing something to you, why would you shoot somebody six times?

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Six. Six times in the... So his truck had been found abandoned on May 25th. Keep in mind, this was

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kind of the beginning of May. So it was found abandoned on the 25th of May. And his body

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wouldn't be found for another week on June 1st, which ironically was the same day as his 18-year-old

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daughter's graduation day from high school. Yeah. About 40 miles outside of Tampa was the

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decomposing nude body of David Spears. Now this already looks bad for Eileen, because now she's

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getting messy. And as we will also see later on, the prosecution will state that she already had a

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hatred for men. And if she was a victim or a, you know, a victim of assault, what good does it do

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for you to strip these men bare of their clothes? Why do that? I don't know if that makes sense.

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Like getting rid of evidence or is that just... Right. I'm like, what's this doesn't make?

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Humiliating. Humiliating. That's what I thought too. Maybe it's like a humil... Humiliation.

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Humiliation. Humiliation. Humiliation. Humiliation things. Maybe. Anyways, at least five days has

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gone by when Eileen commits her third murder. Wait, how many days? Only five. Not many. Not many.

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So this was 40-year-old part-time rodeo worker Charles Carr... I'm gonna fuck this one up. I already

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know I will. Rodeo. Rodeo. What's that? Carr... Carr... Hold on. Carr's cadan. Carr's cadan. Okay. So this

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was 40-year-old part-time rodeo worker Charles Carr's cadan. I'm sorry. I said that wrong again,

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but it's okay. I'll keep going. Charles had been driving along I-75 towards Tampa to meet up with

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his fiance when he spotted Eileen hitchhiking. One thing I wanted to quickly also mention is I can't

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be sure if he was trying to help her. Hitchhiking was very, very prevalent in the 80s. Very big.

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It was like common. It was a very common thing. Not nowadays. No, if you're doing that. Ain't no

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strange. You're getting in my car. If you see someone on the side of the road and their thumb is up,

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waiting for someone to stop, keep going. Yeah, for real. That's all I gotta say. But I don't know,

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like I said, if he was trying to help her or if he was actually looking for sex, but on June 6th,

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his body was found nude, decomposing with nine shots to the chest and stomach this time. Was

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he like a good guy though? I think he was. Yeah. His body was 30 miles away from where David

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Spears' body had been discovered. And on June 7th, his car was found and it was apparent to police

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that his belongings had been missing. So that same month on June 7th, 1990, 65 year old Peter Sims,

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a retired merchant seaman turned missionary, left his home to Jupiter, Florida to head to

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Arkansas to visit his son, but reportedly never arrived. His car was spotted a month later on

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July 4th, Independence Day, and orange springs shortly after witnesses called the police to

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report that they had seen two women getting out of a badly wrecked car and left there, just left.

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So remember that because it's going to come back to us later. But tragically, Peter's body was never

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found. He never found it. And she never admitted where he was? No. No, not at all. I don't think

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we'll ever know unfortunately. So Eileen's fifth victim was a delivery driver for a sausage factory.

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This was 51 year old Troy Beares. A sausage factory? A sausage. I love my sausage.

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That was so dirty for the story. I'm sorry guys. So he went missing on July 30th and his truck

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had been found the next day and the missing person's report had been filed, although this body was

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later found this time fully clothed and it was discovered by a family that had been picnicking

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in Alcala National Forest. Not a family. A family. Okay, imagine picnicking with your family and then

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you're like your child or something sees someone on the ground and you're like that's a dead body.

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What the hell? Traumatizing. At least he was clothed this time. He was clothed, which yeah,

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to say the least, I guess that's good. So he had been shot twice in the torso and

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decomp had begun near his body were several items including a clipboard, several documents,

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and an empty bank bag. Her six victims murder was committed on September 11th of 1990. So

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a little over a decade before 9-11. Charles Dick Humphreys. This was a retired Air Force major,

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retired Abel Bama police chief and at the time of his murder he had actually been a Florida state

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child abuse investigator. Aw. He, I know for, I know for, yeah, I mean we can we can down well

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for sure deem him a decent person because hopefully well hopefully his line of work was decent.

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His line of work was decent. I can, I feel like I can at least back him up a little bit because I

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did read in a lot of sources that his family were like he was the nicest man ever. He would,

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he spent all his time dedicating it to like finding missing persons and like

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defending child abuse, you know, kids I've been through a lot things like that.

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Eileen, what the fuck? It's wrong. Fuck Eileen, dude. Fuck Eileen.

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So he was a father of three as well, Samus David Spears and like I said police

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expected that his death had been done to to sex work by his family to finish him fully

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and said that he was a man who would never ever even consider that. They acknowledged that he

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would help people especially if they needed rides but they would, he would never harm them or submit

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to himself to sex worker. Well they don't know that man's personal life. I guess not. I guess you

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don't really know someone but we'll look at the evidence and we'll look at that later. I guess we'll

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just, we'll deem it from how we view it. Okay. That's a hard thing about this case because

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as much as we want to blame the victim or blame you know whoever because it's hard to know because

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these men are claimed to be you know people that might have harmed Eileen and Wernos but on the other

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side of things you know was Eileen Wernos you know telling the truth through some of these

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issues that she have a veneta against them. And ultimately she murdered people.

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Ultimately she did murder people. That's why I don't know. I get soft when it comes to these

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victims because I'm like some of them were actually sounded like really decent people

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and it's hard to know because I don't. Yeah because we don't know if she's lying or not.

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Yeah and I can only find so much information on them. I mean these families you know of course

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you have the what are they called the funeral things. A bituary. A bituary. Thank you sorry I

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can't think of right now but um the bituraries things like that like things like that we're there

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to read and so you take this stuff and you're like these people were really good people maybe

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not the first one but the other one seemed to be so it's just like I don't know I question it.

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I question it. I don't know. So Charles Humphries was found shot seven times to his head and torso.

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Oh my gosh that's like this number keeps climbing. It keeps climbing but what's

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created oh I can't even do it head like head. Yeah I can't. I can't. I can't.

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And he took it off to the head. Oh and yeah he was fully dressed with his pockets found inside

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out and his car was located by authorities one week later with the license plates removed

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and it took officials almost a month to even tie his car to him.

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Uh terrible. She's good though. She she somehow is like really good about not getting a track record.

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Covering her tracks. Yeah yeah and I think was really smart about this too um that she I don't

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know she intentionally did this but she kind of did this in all separate kind of counties so all

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the police you know all the police they don't really talk to each other. Yeah they're all

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separate so they're all investigating this separately. So Eileen's last and seventh victim

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was 60 year old truck driver Walter Antonio. He was heading to look for a new job and unfortunately

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had him mated. His nude body had been found on November 18th of 1990 in a remote area of Dixie

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County. Dean Compt had taken effect and it was found that he had four bullet holes to the back

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of his head and back so execution style. And Antonio's car was found five days later and

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Brevard County with items missing including a gold ring he wore all the time and this is very

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important because this piece of evidence also comes back to us later but what eventually

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caught up with Eileen and Tyria was the car that he had crashed back in July if you remember. Yeah.

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Like I said if we recall that stolen car was Pearson's what I didn't mention about that day is

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that witnesses had described the women that they saw and sketch artists and investigators did get

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a really nice sketch of these women and kind of put them in a really bad situation to say at least.

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So they also recovered a bloody handprint from the truck of the car and though it was not until

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November of 1990 they eventually really started to mend things together. So police started to release

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the composite sketches and the information to the press. They wanted to keep the evidence they found

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close to the chest until they had solid descriptions of these women so that it wouldn't so it would be

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so it would be a little easier to catch them. The police were also investigating all of these

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murders separately in different counties like we had just said so it got easier after a while to

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you know bring pieces all together. Yeah. So right away the sketches were released to the news

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outlets and calls began pouring in. Police began receiving over at least 400 calls and claims

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and some were not helpful while others gave a lot of vital information. I think 400 calls can be a

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lot especially when you're in one state. One call specifically described these anonymous women to be

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Tyria Moore and Lee literally just Lee. What really threw police officers off was that Eileen had

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been going by so many various aliases throughout the time that she was in Florida that it was kind

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of also difficult to pinpoint who this person was. Yeah. So not only did these sketches work and help

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the investigation but eventually led investigators to pawn shops where they'd find stolen processions

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like a gold ring. Koff Koff the ring was Walter Antonio's. Now she also may have used her alias

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when selling stolen items but her fingerprints had also been on the items. Damn. Which is just crazy

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to me because I'm like it's the 90s and it's still crazy the fact that they could do so much with

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like technology and like fingerprints and that's crazy. The fact that the fingerprint was on there

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for like that long. So long. Well that's another thing too because I was thinking like when other

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people touch it and stuff like that. Yeah. If someone's viewing it but then again like how many

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people are going into a pawn shop and looking at the same exact item every day. Yeah. That's true.

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But there's a lot of jewelry. Oh that's a good point. See this is why I need you here. So the

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hard part about this though was that they had the evidence but they needed to still find these women

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that were hiding. They knew from the beginning eventually the cops would be on their tail so

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remember they were always moving around. While police were continuing their search for the two

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Lee and Ty were not on the same page. Ty had seen her composite sketch on the TV

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and she got really scared and left Florida and Eileen and had moved to Pennsylvania to stay with

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family. She knew what was coming. Yeah she did. She definitely did. She was trying to run. January

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9th of 1991 Eileen was at the last resort bar in Vashula County Florida which was a biker bar at

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the time. It's actually I think I think it's still up right now. I think people after this case

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have actually gone to that bar and like take pictures there because you know that's a thing.

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People like to take pictures and that's sad. Yeah. So she was at the last resort bar and police

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had finally closed in on Eileen for an outstanding warrant. So not murder but an outstanding warrant

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for yeah one of her many millions of petty thefts or cons. But Eileen did not know at the time that

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Ty had also been arrested in Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania police were convincing Ty to

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elicit a confession from Eileen to and I'm sorry in exchange for immunity so she wouldn't be

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prosecuted. I don't think the decision was very difficult for Tyria. No. She didn't commit any

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of these murders but she was an accessory to murder. She wasn't accomplice. She knew about it.

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She knew about it and so she's just equally as bad. Yeah. Not only you know it's not bad but it's

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not like very cute stamp on your record so. So they bought Tyria back to Florida, planted her in

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a motel where she was recorded and listened in on a series of phone calls between her and Eileen

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who was also being held at the time in a jail on that standing warrant. They had various calls so

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Eileen would not suspect anything that the police were on to her and I wonder the calls. Tyria would

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cry and she would tell Eileen you know how scared she was to go to prison for what Eileen had done

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and she even literally threatened to kill herself which is really what just put Eileen over the edge

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and in an attempt to calm Tyria down Eileen had said quote you're innocent I'm not going to let

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you to go to I'm not going to let you go to jail listen if I have to confess I will unquote and

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so she did kind of right after the last call Eileen had confessed to the police that she had killed

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seven men but in self-defense and my girl come forward you're lying that's not lies so I hit

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watch some interrogation videos and then you will see that Eileen is just not giving police solid

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information she's just very calm she's smoking a cigarette like she doesn't give any shit in the

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world and she's just being very difficult and you can tell the interrogators are just over her BS

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before Eileen had even been charged with the murder her arrest went public and people all around

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this case try profiting from the story this was literally just like police officers officials

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anyone that was involved with her case Eileen herself would try to make a profit but spoiler

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you can't make a profit from your own crime you committed dumbass according to true crime all

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the time podcast her own public defender even tried to withdraw from oh sorry they did withdraw from

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the case because they were accused of working with Eileen to get her a Hollywood deal which I'm

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assuming is kind of like a documentary or something probably yeah so eventually Eileen was assigned a

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second public defender by the name of Trisha Jenkins who also profited off her case and

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and according everybody's getting rich literally everyone everyone's getting rich off Eileen what's

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going on here now according to Penn State Eileen Wernos was given a psychopathy exam and scored

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a 32 out of 40 which I think a score of 25 or 30 is considered consistent with diagnosis of being a

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psychopath well and she was also diagnosed with borderline personality disorder so this deems

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relevant to the case just because the attorneys did try to use this in court and I think that her

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second attorney may have profited off of this case but Trisha actually was doing the best she

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could at this case and I think it was evident because I watched a lot of the trial videos and

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it seems like she was putting in that work on January 13th 1992 Eileen's trial began for the

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murder of Richard Mallory Tyria became the start witness on the case and on the fourth day of the

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trial Tyria provided 75 minutes worth of testimony the entire time she would not even look at Eileen

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not even an eye now a prominent claim was that Eileen would never tell Ty that Richard Mallory

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really hurt her she just said that she would return home after the incident or the altercation

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and she completely was unharmed and on face by the matter she just was fine she didn't seem mad

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about it or anything she didn't seem I don't know I guess everyone has different reactions

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to a murder but I would think that when you get home and you just killed a man you would be

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pumped up on the channel and I killed someone what do I do yeah you want to just be like I killed

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someone I don't know what do you want for dinner what do you want for dinner now like we're good

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once Tyria had finally finished her testimony she left the courtroom and that would be the last

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time Eileen would ever see Tyria at first there was speculation that Eileen would be offered a

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retrial because if you recall Mallory was convicted uh what's that convicted sex offender

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and he served 10 years in prison but nothing came of that so the prosecution did present evidence

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of the other murders to show motive which normally isn't legal in most states to bring

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evidence in from other cases but the state of Florida does have an act called the Williams rule

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which is which is allowing for any evidence outside of the given case to be brought forward if it

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deems relevant which really helped persuade the jurors and I feel like Florida needs that law

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those people are crazy in Florida yeah there are so many crazy Florida man yeah oh my gosh

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that is so true um which I actually didn't know before researching this but that was actually a

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thing because what this yeah you can bring evidence into a trial that's not if it's relevant

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that's a good thing I don't think that's a good thing right I think others say should have that too

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but that's just me just my thought sorry it's probably just so there's like not a lot of bias

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or something yeah that's true that is true but it it did help the jurors and like I said it kind of

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got a lot of the people that may have been on her set of innocence out of that so and following this

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prosecution also showed the court tapes that Eileen Kat confessed to so kind of showed everything

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that she was confessing to and such from that day that she had been arrested Eileen did have a chance

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to give her statements she told the jury that she needed the money to support herself but more

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ever she didn't kill these men just to kill them she did it because they were going to hurt her

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or someone else she'd explained that Richard Mallory had intentions to rape her sexually

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assault her with items and harsh chemicals such as robbing alcohol to her privates and that she

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had to basically spit in his face kick him off of her and grabbed her gun to shoot him with

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several times now when she found that it didn't take she says she shot him a couple more times

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and then proceeded to wrap his body in a rug she found so that birds wouldn't get to him and drove

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off with his car does that make sense no but okay why did she care if birds got to him or not

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i'm like girl okay someone is coming up to you and trying to hurt you why would you give a

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fuck if they're in a rug or not to save him from getting pecked by birds where did she think it was

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a rug it was a rug it just had a rug in his car i don't know where she found it i didn't find that

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but piece of information but i knew that she had found a rug somewhere i guess in this car or

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oh it's just random rug laying on the road i don't know i'm like really how she found this

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rug that's a good question allowed him come get your rug so unfortunate for eileen the prosecution

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really had her cornered and just questioned her cross-examined her just really put her on the spot

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i think this is really what screwed eileen for a lighter sentence because she started really

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getting angry in the courtroom she started making phrases at the prosecution she started speaking

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out of turn and then the jury really just started getting tired of eileen and saw her for what she

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really was yeah because an innocent person wouldn't be like all mad about it mad and making faces and

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being a child in court like what the fuck you wouldn't do that prove you're not guilty you wouldn't

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act out yeah she really screwed herself up for that the prosecution had really got the case in the bag

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after addressing to the courtroom eileen confessed to murdering these men in self-defense but never

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once mentioned her brutal rape inflicted by a malorie when she was being tried and questioned

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for the murder in the first place but eileen maintained her innocence and insisted that she

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never killed in cold blood so after two hours of deliberation the jury found eileen werner's guilty

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of first-degree murder and armed robbery of richard malorie right away as eileen was being brought

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out of the courtroom she just starts yelling slurs at the judge and the jury and you can

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literally actually find these trial videos online if you want to see for yourself but my thing is

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had eileen given the story that she had told in the courtroom to the police at first maybe she

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wouldn't be in the situation that she had faced and there'd be a different outcome i don't know

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but the judge has sentenced eileen to death by electric chair and she maintained her innocence

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in a sense leading up to her final days this is not really super relevant but her last

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request of meal was a burger snacks and a cup of coffee a burger and coffee a burger and coffee

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your last meal wait what's your last meal if you have to have one that's a good question

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probably like taco bell and like honestly i feel like that would be both of ours yeah like

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taco bell and a slurpee probably taco bell Pepsi if you hit indifferent sometimes oh that is so

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true i remember when we would like in high school i would go to the taco bell the same taco bell

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we'd sit in the same spot and then we talk about boys for like two hours she's not lying we really

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shout out to all of those people you know who you are all right so anywho on october 9th 2002

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eileen wernos was executed as for tyria today she keeps a low profile and she has kept her life

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private since other than just a couple of interviews that she had made profit from and it said that she

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may live in pennsylvania with her family so yeah that brings me to the end of part two of eileen

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wernos and her crazy ass life wow well i mean ultimately she killed people she killed people

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and no matter the way any way you look at it there's no way to justify killing people like

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don't kill people that's the moral of the story guys i also i feel like it's harder to

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claim self-defense if you've killed multiple people it is i think so too i mean but then it comes with

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the grounds of what she was doing what she was working well that's the difficult part because

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like i said i think she can't stop right she needs to support herself yeah and make money so she can't

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necessarily stop i mean she can but in her eyes she can't she can't it was just something she'd

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know now and something she was just gonna keep doing she also had like a hard time getting a job

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right yeah she did she had tried for a minute um she just didn't have an experience and everything

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right yeah no i know for from just my research i know she had tried to apply for a lot of jobs but

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unfortunately she didn't have that background that she needed or that she was also like an aggressive

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person and she was aggressive yeah i was just gonna also say i don't know if this is actually real

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but i know from the movie monster when i had watched it um the way she was portrayed in the

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movie she got really aggressive and she tried to go to like these job interviews and she would just

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never click with these people because she is so aggressive as a as a person so but yeah that that's

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the case of i'm wearing those guys i hope you liked it and yeah wait we're not done talking oh god go on

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sorry we're we're whining we're whining we're cutting it off too short we haven't even talked about

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miss taria yes oh my god even oh geez i'm sorry forgive me for that um no taria really got out

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of everything i mean ultimately she didn't murder anyone but she knew about it she knew about it i

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feel like she's she'll still should have faced something well okay when i first was researching

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the story and i kind of had a little knowledge of what had happened in this case um i kind of

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felt bad for taria because i'm like oh like she was really young she was kind of naive she got

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roped into it because she was already vulnerable because of her family and the people she knew

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back home in ohio yeah and then it just didn't help because now she's over here getting into a

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relationship with a felon and it's like i don't know when you're in that kind of situation

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how does that work out like are you afraid so afraid that you don't want to leave them or is

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it more so like uh i really like this person i do anything for them but i don't know because in my

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mind i feel like taria wasn't as in love with eileen as eileen was for her yeah and i feel like

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that's why eileen was so dedicated to her because she was really just a go-getter when it came to

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just making her happy you could see that she literally murdered her for her and i guess i don't

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know when it came down to it i don't know it just really shows like when you do something that bad

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no one's gonna look out for you you're on your own it's not worth it it's not worth killing for

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it's not worth i get love is great and fun and you know you have your fun too i just can't believe

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taria is just out there yeah she's roaming around who knows she could be listening to this and we

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wouldn't even know you said miss taria miss taria miss girl what's that one meme that's like miss

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keisha miss keisha miss keisha oh my god she's fucking dead guys look that up on youtube i sure

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it's on there it's so funny it's like the little girl who's like yelling at her doll and she's like

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one video she's like beating her stuff animal she's like so funny miss keisha miss taria miss

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taria yeah seriously girl you probably have some stories too tough yeah and you can watch again um

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i think i haven't watched them but you can watch a couple of her interviews on the internet um i think

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she looks this girl up yeah you can definitely see what she looks like i feel like when this case is

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talked about taria is not brought up a lot no and i think it's because taria has worked so hard to

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get her name out of it but she still is a part in a vital part about this case so i think that she has

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you know it's kind of being it what oh that's her cat eating that as for the victims of this case

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again as you guys at home you guys whatever you're doing right now look at these people a lot because

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these were all people that were i will say they're victims of eileen they are victims at the end of the

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day at the end of the day they're victims to think even like the first one when she had killed malarie

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even if he had done something bad you should you shouldn't kill people like i just i can't get over

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that like maybe he partly got everything it was coming for but i don't know partly like it's like

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like justice was served at the end of the day i feel like yeah especially for his victims yeah

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because he himself created victims of himself yeah he definitely so at the end of the day like it's

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kind of i guess justice served but i'm just like she literally killed people she yeah like i'm sorry

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honey but there's other ways to make money there is other ways to make money you can make money

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anyway you want just don't kill people yeah for real miss girl yeah well she needed only fans

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oh my god yeah hell girl she would have she would have done great there i'm sure but unfortunately

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we will never know because no unfortunately unfortunately oh fortunately sorry thank you

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it's late while rest in peace to all those victims especially the good ones yeah definitely

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i can't imagine their families yeah especially for the families on behalf of them i i really

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hope the families are doing well today yeah i hope they found peace yeah time for my little

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like on my personal account i think you're like the only person that i actually followed on that

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account that's so funny i don't really go on twitter though don't really use twitter anymore

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