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You're just going to be looking at...

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Betrayed by my own intern.

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You just said Christian just like...

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Christian joins the pastoral team, thinks he's exempt from all the rules.

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Alright, if you have your Bibles, let's open up to Revelation chapter 20.

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Revelation chapter 20.

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As promised, what we're going to be doing is we're going to be talking about the millennium.

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We're starting tonight and we are going to be continuing for a duration of time.

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An undisclosed duration of time.

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I was making this and I told Ann, I was like, I think I'm going to get through all four views

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in one night.

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And then I went through the message and I got through like one view and I said, okay,

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so we might be here a few weeks, but that's okay.

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That's okay.

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So here's the plan.

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I'm going to read verses one through 10 and then we're going to get into the weeds of this

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thing and get into the details.

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And I'm going to set some ground rules after I read the verses.

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Alright, so Revelation chapter 20 verses one through 10.

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Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven holding in his hand the key to the bottomless

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pit in a great chain and he sees the dragon, that ancient serpent who is the devil and

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Satan and bound him for a thousand years and threw him into the pit and shut it and sealed

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it over him so that he might not deceive the nations any longer until the thousand years

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After that, he must be released for a little while.

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Then I saw thrones and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was also

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Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for

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the word of God and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received

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the mark on their foreheads or their hands.

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They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

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This is the first resurrection.

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Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection.

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For such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ

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and they will reign with him for a thousand years.

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And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will

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come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog,

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to gather them for battle.

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earth and surrounded the camp of the saints in the beloved city.

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thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and false prophet were and they

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will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

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All right, pretty straightforward passage.

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No one's ever debated it ever.

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So a couple of ground rules as we get started on this, right?

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Everybody agree on these ground rules.

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So I'm going to present you four different views of eschatology, the end times, the millennium.

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And there are Christians who hold to each of these four views and just because you don't

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hold to the same one as the other one does not mean you're not a Christian.

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And it does not mean you're not really saved and it does not make you a heretic.

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Do we understand these ground rules, right?

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You can hold to any of the four views and be an Orthodox Christian.

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The other thing that we need to remember as we have this discussion is I'm going to be

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painting with a very broad brush in terms of explaining these.

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So I'm going to get into the details, but what I mean is no matter which view you're

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talking about, there are probably 10 different branches within that view.

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and you don't believe that, that's okay.

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Does that make sense to everybody?

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I'm going to present this completely unbiased, right?

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I'm going to give you the facts.

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This is the Colombo method.

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Y'all used to watch Colombo, right?

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Everyone starts talking and he said, just the facts, ma'am.

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Just give me the facts.

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I'm not trying to persuade you for one of these views.

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I'm not trying to persuade you.

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I'm literally just going to give you the facts of what that view says about these verses

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and let you decide which view you think is most biblical, all right?

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And then at the end of this, we're all still going to be brothers and sisters in Christ,

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and we're going to praise God together, amen?

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Wow, not in amen.

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That's indicative of this.

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Amen, right?

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Okay, we got a couple.

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We got a couple.

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Man, making me rethink this thing.

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Yeah, all right, so let's get started.

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Mazzon, do we have the first slide?

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Is it going to be able to pull up?

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Well, we thought it was.

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have four different views, but they will fall into two separate categories.

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to be the premillennial views of eschatology, and then there are going to be the post-millennial

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There are two premillennial views, and there are two post-millennial views.

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You have dispensationalism, historic premillennialism, all-millennialism, and host-millennialism.

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I will try to get through all that I, wow, it's already 7-0-7.

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If you want these slides, I'd be happy to print them out for you, and you can have your

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These are the four views, and something I thought would be very helpful for you to see

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next slide, Mazzan, is I thought it would be very interesting to show you eschatology

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throughout church history, because one problem that everybody I think has today with eschatology

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is people living in their time tend to think that their view of eschatology is the right

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view and the only view, and it's always been that way.

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has at some point been the predominant view in a certain era throughout church history.

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for Harry Potter, that is historic premillennialism.

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majority of the church, the predominant view was amillennialism.

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the most popular view of eschatology throughout church history.

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took over as the predominant view.

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became the predominant view.

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of eschatology today.

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happening in history at the time.

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So for instance, like historic premillennialism, right?

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Back one slide, Mazan.

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Yep, thanks.

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Let's just stay there for a second.

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So if you think about the first through the third century, the church was under heavy

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persecution, right?

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Christians were being hunted down and killed and martyred all the time.

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and that he would return after it.

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and they saw how it was lining up.

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in the medieval period of church history.

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People, the church became more scholarly because we weren't being as persecuted as much.

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at this time and realizing how important they were for understanding what was written in

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them.

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And so they looked at Revelation and they said, well, hey, this is apocalyptic literature,

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which means it needs to be interpreted in a certain way.

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millennialism, what was going on 18th, 19th century, some big things in the world in history?

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Revolutionary wars, what else we had before that 18th century, big thing.

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Revolutionary war.

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So you had the Enlightenment happen and then you also had the Great Awakening happening

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in the Americas, right?

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world will increasingly get better until the end and then Jesus will return after a golden

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age of Christianity, which is really interesting how it lines up with the historical relevance

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of what was going on.

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believe that the world will continue to get worse and worse until the very end where there

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will be a rapture and a tribulation in the return of Jesus.

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have viewed eschatology throughout church history.

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Is that helpful for y'all at all?

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I think, yeah.

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Again, one of the main things I just want you to see here is that every single one of the

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views of eschatology has been the predominant view at some point in church history.

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All right, so let's do a very, very general, very quick general overview of each of the

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four and then we'll dig in deep.

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All right, so dispensationalism, it teaches that Jesus will rapture the church before

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the tribulation and after the tribulation Jesus will throw Satan into the bottomless

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pit next slide, Mazzan.

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He will also resurrect all believers and establish his millennial kingdom on earth for a thousand

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And then after a thousand years, Satan is released to deceive the nations, assemble armies against

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Christ and Christ will defeat them.

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Yeah, ultimately defeated thrown in hell and then unbelievers are raised at that point

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to go to the judgment throwing of God.

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Now you might be saying, hey, there's probably more to it than that.

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You're right, but this is the general part of our overview.

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Historic premillennialism.

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It's very similar to dispensationalism in that they both believe that Jesus will return

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before the millennium.

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symbolic or metaphorical, not an actual 1000 years and some of them believe in a literal

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historic premillennialism teaches that Jesus will allow the church to go through the tribulation.

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Anybody know what all millennialism means?

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millennium or without a millennium.

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period of time that represents Jesus's spiritual reign through his church.

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Next slide, Mazzan.

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Okay, there you go.

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A 1000 year period is symbolic.

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It refers to the entire time between Jesus's ascension and Jesus's return.

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and it will end when Jesus returns.

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increasingly better all the time and will continue to get increasingly better until

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Jesus returns.

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They actually believe that what's going to happen is the church is going to spread the

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gospel.

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God is going to bless the gospel going out and this is going to give way to a golden age

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of Christianity.

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This golden age in post millennialism is also known as the millennium.

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So basically the world is going to keep going like this and at some point the post millennials

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teach that almost the entire world will be Christian at that point.

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of it.

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Everything is predominantly going to be Christian.

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This is the golden age of Christianity and this leads to Jesus' return after that golden

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who believe, but next slide.

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All right, let's get into the interpretations.

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This is where we get into the weeds.

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We're looking at dispensationalism tonight and I've got 10 minutes to tell you about

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dispensationalism.

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All right, so one of the key characteristics of dispensationalism is they operate with a

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literal and chronological interpretation of revelation and actually this is applied for

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their interpretation of most of the Bible.

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They will almost always default to interpreting things literally.

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So we just need to understand the framework that they're coming from here.

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Another key characteristic of dispensationalism is they believe there's a hard distinction

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between Israel and the church.

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Basically that God has two separate peoples.

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He has Israel, which are his national people, and he has the church, which are his spiritual

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people.

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Most dispensationalists would also say that the tribulation and the millennium do not have

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anything to do with the church.

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Instead, they believe that the entire point of the tribulation has to do with God's purposes

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for Israel.

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So in the dispensational thought, what's going to happen is there's going to be a rapture

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and then the tribulation happens.

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God's going to rapture up the church, but all unbelievers are going to be left.

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And so this time of tribulation is going to be used for Israel.

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And this is really based on Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy, which we talked about a little bit

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in some of our earlier studies of Revelation.

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So for instance, you remember Daniel prophesied about these 70 weeks that have to happen, right?

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And dispensationalists, this is an interesting thing.

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This is where they break with their literal interpretation.

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So they understand the 70 weeks to refer to 490 years.

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So each week represents seven years.

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The first 69 weeks or 483 years, that occurs between the decree to rebuild the temple and

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the coming of the Messiah.

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After the 69 weeks, the Messiah is cut off in accordance with Daniel's prophecy in Daniel

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chapter 9 of that one.

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Go to the last slide, there we go.

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So he's cut off and that refers to Jesus' crucifixion.

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There we go, now he's on.

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So you have the 69 weeks, it basically ends with Jesus' crucifixion when he is cut off.

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But then there's a gap.

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There's this huge gap between the 69th week and the 70th week.

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There is still a one week that needs to be paid off or a seven year time period that

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needs to be paid off.

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And this 70th week is to be filled during the time of tribulation.

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All right, everybody tracking?

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There's 69 weeks that have already passed.

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One week still needs to happen, which equals seven years.

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And they say that this is what the purpose of the tribulation is.

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It is a seven year time period in which Israel is paying off that week that they owe to God.

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Next slide, Mazzon.

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Yeah, that they owe to God.

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And so this is going to be a time in which Israel is going to be prepared to receive

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Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

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When you look at verses one through three as a dispensationalist, they believe that this

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occurs at or after or at the same time as the rapture.

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So when it talks about Satan being bound, that's going to happen at the same time as

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the rapture.

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And they also claim that Jesus will secretly rapture Christians to heaven.

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Now the reason that it is called a secret rapture is because, yeah, nobody knows when

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it is.

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Basically, it's secret in that people will be going about their everyday lives, right?

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And then everybody just disappears if you're a believer in Jesus.

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So in that way, it is secret.

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No one knows the time.

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And basically Christians are going to disappear and all the unbelievers who are left are going

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to not really understand what happened.

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But they believe that there's going to be Jesus is going to return partway to earth.

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He's going to remain in the clouds.

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He's going to secretly rapture his church to meet him in the clouds.

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And then he is going to escort them back to heaven where they will remain during the seven

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year tribulation so that they are not subjected to it here on earth.

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Next slide, Ms. on.

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Yeah, I did that one.

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So let's go next.

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All right.

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So the other thing about dispensationalism is that they typically believe in two to three

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resurrections based on how you read Revelation chapter 20.

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The first resurrection is of the church and that happens at the time of the rapture.

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That is when the church is going to be resurrected.

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The second resurrection is after the tribulation at the second coming of Christ.

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Typically dispensationalists will say this is the resurrection of the Old Testament saints.

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So the first resurrection is the resurrection of all the church.

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Everybody tracking here.

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The second one after the tribulation is the resurrection of Old Testament saints.

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And there will be a union of the church and the Old Testament saints to rule with Christ

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for a thousand years on earth and his millennial kingdom.

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The third resurrection is the resurrection of the wicked after the millennium.

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After the rapture, the antichrist will rise to prominence and the earth will experience

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that seven years of tribulation and that is going to be used to prepare Israel to receive

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Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

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Now the tribulation obviously climaxes with the battle of Armageddon and Jesus is going

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to return back to earth to win the battle of Armageddon.

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Israel's converted to faith and Jesus and Jesus raises all believers from the dead to

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begin his thousand year reign.

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Now next slide if you would Mazzan.

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You might be wondering where does a lot of this come from?

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Well one of the main places that this comes from is Romans chapter 11.

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The reason that dispensationalists believe that the tribulation is used to prepare Israel

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to be converted to faith in Christ is based on Romans 11.

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They believe there's going to be a mass conversion of the Jewish people.

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So I'll read that passage for you just so you can see where this comes from.

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So Romans 11 verses 25 to 27 says, lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you

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to be unaware of this mystery brothers.

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A partial hardening has come upon Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in and

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in this way all Israel will be saved as it is written.

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The deliverer will come from Zion.

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He will banish ungodliness from Jacob and this will be my covenant with them when I

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take away their sins.

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And so based on passages like this they believe that there's going to be a mass conversion

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of the Jews during the time of tribulation or at least when Jesus returns at the end

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of the tribulation.

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Let's pause here and again let's note that there are different branches of dispensationalism.

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Some dispensationalists believe that every single Jewish person will be saved.

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That is a small minority.

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I believe the predominant view within dispensationalism is that exactly 144,000 Jewish people will

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be saved based on earlier passages in Revelation.

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So again you do get different branches within the same umbrella of eschatology.

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But that is where they get this and their understanding of Revelation 20 verses 1 through

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10, it makes a lot of sense if the passage is to be interpreted literally.

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So this is what I want everybody to understand.

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Once you get in a framework and you set yourself within a system, when you operate within that

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framework things tend to make sense.

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So I know a lot of people are confused by dispensationalism.

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They go well I don't believe that, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

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It makes sense if you follow the rules of interpretation that they set up.

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Does that, does that, everybody understand that?

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Alright, so just look at the passage.

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If you look at verses 1 through 3, it's the literal binding of Satan in the literal bottomless

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pit.

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Verse 4 refers to believers being raised from the dead to rule with Christ in his millennial

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kingdom.

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Verses 5 and 6 anticipates the resurrection of the rest of the dead before the final judgment.

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Verse 7 refers to Satan being released to stage a rebellion.

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And verses 8 through 10 refer to the final battle of Armageddon and the defeat of Satan,

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the beast and the false prophet.

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So you can look at all the different things and let me just say dispensationalism is the

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most complex of all the different views of eschatology.

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Amillennialism is the simplest.

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Dispensationalism is the most complex and there are so many different things we could

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say.

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But I wanted to just give you the key takeaways of dispensationalism for you to remember this

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by.

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Next slide, Mazzon.

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I'll print them all for you.

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You can just reference them.

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Go to the next one, Mazzon.

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There it is.

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So these are the key points I want you to take away from dispensationalism.

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The hallmarks are a literal interpretation of the passage.

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So if it says a thousand years, it literally means a thousand years.

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There's a hard distinction between Israel and the church.

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This is really only, actually it's really only part of dispensationalism.

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None of the other three views of eschatology make a hard distinction between Israel and

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the church.

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Dispensationalism has the pre-tribulation rapture.

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It is the only eschatological view that teaches a pre-tribulation rapture.

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Next slide, Mazzon.

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There is a literal seven-year period of tribulation on earth that is focused on divine purposes

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for Israel.

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There are anywhere from two to three resurrections, and there is a literal one thousand year earthly

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kingdom where Jesus will rule and reign until the time when Satan is released, the final

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battle of Armageddon, and the resurrection of unbelievers to the judgment thrown of God.

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So that is dispensationalism in a nutshell.

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We're not going to start another view tonight.

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I will just say it gets a lot simpler from here.

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So if you're like, okay, listen, that was a lot.

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Yeah, it is.

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We start with dispensationalism because it's the most complex, but each one after this

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is going to become increasingly simpler with, again, Amillennialism being the simplest.

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Pretty much if they can chalk it up to metaphor or symbolism, they're going to.

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I want to open it up.

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What kind of questions do you have?

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Questions, comments, feedback about dispensationalism that I might try to answer?

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Not that I have all the answers, but I'd be happy to see if I could take a crack at it.

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I've not come across that view, but I don't doubt that it is a view.

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Yeah, I haven't personally heard that one myself.

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There is a reference at the end of Matthew where it talks about people being raised from

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the dead, but I haven't come across the view that it was all the Old Testament saints at

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that time who went with him.

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So I'd look into that and I'll let you, I'll get back to you because I actually don't know.

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With him.

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Yeah, I wouldn't say that applies to dispensationalism in general.

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Everything that I've studied about dispensationalism typically puts the resurrection of Old Testament

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saints at the end of the time of tribulation.

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But there are, like I said, a ton of branches, so I don't doubt that that's possible.

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There's nothing that says that they ascended with him at that time.

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It is possible that that happened, but we just don't know because the Bible doesn't say it.

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It just says they came back to life at that time.

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Don't really know what happened after that.

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I would say it probably doesn't relate to dispensationalism in particular, but if you wanted to get into that, there is a whole discussion about when unbelievers die, they don't immediately go to hell.

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they go to this place of torment like you see the rich man go there. He's not in

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hell. It's more like a Gehenna type situation where it's a place of torment

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where he is awaiting the final judgment and the final sentencing to eternal fire

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in hell. And then the place where Lazarus goes is called Abraham's

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bosom. And so it's this place where he's in the presence of God but there's not

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the fullness. And you see the same kind of idea in Paul in 2 Corinthians chapter

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5 where he talks about being absent from the body. We're at home with the Lord.

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And then you look in Revelation chapter 6 and you see the saints under the

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throne of God crying out to him, how long oh Lord. And so they are with Christ and

484
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yet there's more that they're hoping for. And what they're hoping for is the

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bodily resurrection I would argue. The final rejoining of soul and body and the

486
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having received the glorified body that Christ promises his believers. So yeah

487
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there's this whole idea of there being this place of comfort and this place of

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torment that anticipates a final destination reality. But that's not,

489
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that's not technically eschatology but I'm happy to talk on that. Yeah, yeah, good

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point. Anybody have any questions specifically related to eschatology or

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dispensationalism? Anything you want me to clarify?

492
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Yes. Yeah and I didn't really touch on this. So let me just say this very

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quickly. Dispensationalism is more popular in America than any other

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country. That kind of has started to change with the material being sent to

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other countries such as the left behind series and the books and the movies

496
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because it's an easy way to put Jesus in front of people and that's a very

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dispensational, it's all dispensational theology. But the really interesting

498
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thing about dispensational theology is we noted that it didn't become popular

499
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until the 20th century, right? You remember the timeline? It's because it

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wasn't created until 1830 by Darby. Darby was the first person in church history

501
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to clearly articulate dispensationalism and so there is no record or any

502
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existing documents of anyone teaching dispensationalism before 1830 or the

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idea of a pre-tribulation rapture. Darby was the one who looked into the

504
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scriptures, looked in Revelation, looked in Daniel, he put forth this

505
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interpretation. It became very popular especially with a man named C.I.

506
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Scofield and in 1905, Scofield wrote the Scofield Bible which is a Bible that

507
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has commentary footnotes as much like our study Bibles today but it is written

508
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purely from a dispensational perspective and this Bible became one of the best

509
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selling and most influential Bibles of the entire 20th century. Gene McKinney

510
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still has one today. Michael, they're incredibly hard to even find today.

511
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They don't really reproduce them as much but yeah, so dispensationalism didn't

512
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exist before 1830. That's why it didn't become popular until the 1900s and then

513
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once the Scofield Bible started getting produced and sent out to people, that's

514
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where it really took off. The writer of left behind was highly influenced by

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Scofield and Darby so he wrote these novels to try to put the idea of the

516
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return of Christ in front of a popular audience, general audience to get them

517
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thinking about that and then obviously you get the movies and then we've started

518
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shipping that to other countries. So long way to answer your question, yes it's

519
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more popular in America. In other places around the world you typically find

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all millennialism is still the most popular among the the nations not

521
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America with still historic premillennialism right behind that. Post

522
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millennialism is really taking off in America too though. It's probably

523
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becoming the second most popular eschatological view in recent years.

524
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Any other questions? Alright well we've solved everything in one nice. We've

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cleared up dispensationalism. My goal throughout this is I want to present

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everybody's view in a way that if they hold to that view they would feel

527
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comfortable saying yeah that accurately represents what I believe. I don't want

528
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to misrepresent anyone's view so I'm going to do my best to present each view

529
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just by the facts and as honest as I can. So again not trying to sway you. Next

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week we'll get into historic premillennialism. Michael how about

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closing us in prayer?