1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,680 firefighters 2 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Ten... 3 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,680 Ten... 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Nine... 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Eight... 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,680 Seven... 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Six... 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Five... 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Four... 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,680 Three... 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Two... 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:01:00,420 One... 13 00:01:00,420 --> 00:01:01,640 What's going on everybody? 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,120 Welcome back to another episode of Talking With The Source. 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,640 You've got me tonight, unfortunately. 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,640 AJ has a... 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Well he said he's not feeling well, but I reckon he's got a medical emergency. 18 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,300 He's either fractured a nasal hair or he has sprained an eyebrow. 19 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:21,300 One of the two. 20 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:25,160 I'm not sure which one it is, but he should be back for next week's show. 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,240 But I just want to give a quick shout out to the Global Ghost Hunt. 22 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,240 We are coming back. 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,480 We've had a successful one in May there. 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,280 We are coming back in October. 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,480 Go to www.globalgosethunt.com. 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,420 See all the details on there. 27 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:44,520 Get everything you need on there. 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Sign up. 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Get your team signed up. 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,520 Get your location. 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Get everything ready and it will be an absolute blast like it was there. 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,000 So there's that. 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,000 I can't think of anything else. 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,000 I'm going to have to shout out really. 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Yeah, Talking With The Source. 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Yeah. 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 But anyway, I'm going to go ahead and get started. 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 I'm going to go ahead and get started. 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 I'm going to go ahead and get started. 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 I'm going to go ahead and get started. 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 I'm going to go ahead and get started. 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,000 I'm going to go ahead and get started. 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,000 I'm going to go ahead and get started. 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,000 I'm going to go ahead and get started. 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,000 I'm going to get started. 46 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Anyway, I guess tonight is absolutely fantastic, lady. 47 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Fantastic. 48 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:15,200 She has upwards of, I'm sure she'll correct me if I'm wrong, 27 books she's written, 49 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,320 paranormal stories and stuff like that. 50 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:27,120 So without any more interruptions, not that we've had any, but we will bring her on. 51 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,560 So it is welcome to Shani Struthers. 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Hello. 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,560 Hi there. 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Hi. 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Hi there. 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,560 Oh, it's Shani, by the way. 57 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,560 Everyone says Shani, but it is Shani. 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,560 Sorry about that. 59 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Was it right in the 27 mark for the books or? 60 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,160 Yeah, it is around the 27 mark. 61 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,120 Although I'm actually working on my 28th right now and finishing that up. 62 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,120 But yeah, yeah. 63 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,480 I mean, out actually available to buy a 27. 64 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,480 Yeah. 65 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,480 There you go. 66 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,480 You have it now. 67 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Breaking news, there's a 28th one on the way. 68 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:09,040 So I'm going to start with the usual question we ask everybody. 69 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,360 What got you into the paranormal and interested in the paranormal? 70 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,360 Okay. 71 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,480 Well, my mum got me into paranormal. 72 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:26,080 She was very much into, should we say the spiritual and made a lifetime study of it, 73 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:32,560 learning all aspects of the spiritual, good, the bad and the ugly, as we know. 74 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,080 And of course she imparted a lot of knowledge towards me. 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,720 And so I was just became very interested in it from a young age. 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Plus I have had some paranormal experiences of my own, especially as a child. 77 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,280 You can elaborate now if you want. 78 00:03:52,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Well, I suppose one of the tales I have to tell, I was five, I was in Cornwall on the 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,960 beach. 80 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:03,960 Oh, lovely. 81 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:04,960 I love Cornwall. 82 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,960 We'll talk about this beforehand. 83 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:06,960 And I wandered off. 84 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:18,200 And as you know, on the beaches in Cornwall, the tide comes rushing extremely quickly. 85 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,280 And I got cut off from everyone. 86 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:22,280 And I was on a rock. 87 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:27,000 I climbed up on a rock because the sea was just coming in so quickly. 88 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,800 And I knew I was going to die, basically drown. 89 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,520 And I remember looking, I was panicking, but I remember looking at the sea and being, you 90 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,680 know, oh my God, I'm going to drown. 91 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,240 What the hell is that going to be like? 92 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,240 And I was panicking. 93 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,280 And then suddenly there were these two people sitting with me, an older man, an older woman. 94 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:52,120 And I remember the woman more, she was dressed in like a tweed suit with a pearl necklace, 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:58,200 so strange clothes on the beach. 96 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,880 And they said, look, whatever happens, we want you to know two things. 97 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,320 You won't be alone and it won't hurt. 98 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,560 Okay, we're with you. 99 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,160 And I remember then I looked back out to see as it was all rushing in, I just thought it 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,160 will be okay. 101 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,160 Whatever happens, it will be okay. 102 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,200 And I sort of made my peace. 103 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,080 Even though it was just five, I sort of made my peace with the fact that I was going to 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,400 drown and I wasn't frightened anymore. 105 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,720 And but the actual is I got rescued. 106 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,520 The lifeboat came around, located me and I got rescued. 107 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,960 And it was only years later when I said, I said to my mom, I said, why did they not rescue 108 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,240 the other two people that were on the rock with me? 109 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,240 Why was it just me? 110 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,680 She said, there was no one with me. 111 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,800 So, but there was, as we know. 112 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,680 But, you know, and just various experiences like that, really. 113 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,920 But more as a child, strange enough. 114 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,840 Or maybe not strange, because I think as a child, you're very open. 115 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:58,280 You know, your third eye is open, as it were, to the paranormal. 116 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:03,360 As you get older, other things take over and you become more grounded in the material world, 117 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,360 I suppose. 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:10,800 A lot of things always seem to happen and, you know, us hosts, how we get into it. 119 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,920 And then you ask a lot of guests and stuff how they get into it. 120 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Always seems to be the same thing. 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:23,400 You know, it always seems to start, you know, in childhood and then and progress from there, 122 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,400 you know. 123 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,600 But then they always say that kids are more susceptible. 124 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,520 I think we're just more open as children. 125 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,520 We're more open to it. 126 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,200 But, you know, the shutters haven't come down fully, you know. 127 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,200 Yeah. 128 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,520 We've come, you know, we're born. 129 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,800 So we've come from the other side. 130 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,800 Sort of. 131 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:48,240 So we're closer to that side than we are to, you know, to this side going through life. 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:54,600 But as I say, yeah, you know, as you get older, it's just, you know, you're bombarded with 133 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:00,720 so much schoolwork, you know, friends and all that kind of politics that goes with that. 134 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:06,400 And you become more entrenched, I think, in the material world, possibly going back to 135 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,880 it when you're a bit older and you've got past a certain stage. 136 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,000 Yeah, yeah, definitely. 137 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Some people remain with it all their lives. 138 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,160 I mean, I came away from it for a while. 139 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,200 And then I went back to it, you know. 140 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,200 Yeah. 141 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,320 But there's nothing wrong with living. 142 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,440 And, you know, we are in a material existence. 143 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,040 There's nothing wrong with living in material existence. 144 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,040 Yeah. 145 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,880 Some of us aren't open. 146 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:41,480 I was wanting to ask you, first of all, say hello to Ward van der Plaas and also to Charles 147 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,480 Rudd. 148 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,840 How are you doing? 149 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:52,440 I was wanting to ask you, well, there's two questions and one really. 150 00:07:52,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Obviously, it was how did you get into writing about the paranormal and also your books that 151 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:07,720 you've written, you know, are they all about true stories or, you know, are some of them 152 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,920 just like just paranormal stories in general that you've written about? 153 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,080 Well, it's a mix of both. 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,160 How I got into it, I've been a writer all my life. 155 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:25,880 I went to university studying English, left university, got a job as a travel writer. 156 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,800 And yeah, I've been a, I was a travel writer for 20 years. 157 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,600 But I always wanted to write about the paranormal, especially the more that I got to know about 158 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,480 it, you know, I wanted to write about it. 159 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,280 And so I did, you know, throughout the year. 160 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,360 So I started writing when I was 40. 161 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,560 And, you know, during that time, you pick up a lot of what people say about the paranormal 162 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:54,120 and the tales that they have to tell. 163 00:08:54,120 --> 00:09:01,000 And also studying the work of some occultists as well, etc. 164 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:08,840 The kind of stuff that they discovered during the courses of their lives about the spiritual. 165 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,320 And so that all goes into the books. 166 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:18,320 So the first book I wrote was this one, which is Psychic Surveys Book One, The Haunting 167 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,760 of Highdown Hall. 168 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,440 And that's part of so far a, is it eight or nine? 169 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,600 Nine book series. 170 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,760 And Psychic Surveys was actually a business idea. 171 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,880 My husband is a structure engineer, does house surveys. 172 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,840 And he went to one where the people that were going to buy it said, and the people that 173 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,080 were selling it were like, what, there's something wrong with this house. 174 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:51,360 And I wish that we could find out what and clear it before these new people buy it. 175 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,640 And they were quite open with the new people. 176 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,000 And they said, well, we'll do some research and what have you. 177 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,720 And Rob said he'll go away and do some research as well. 178 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:06,520 It turned out very, very sadly that teenagers hung themselves there. 179 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,960 Very, very sadly. 180 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,960 And she said, this is what people need to know before they're buying places, et cetera. 181 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:22,120 We need somebody to go in and do like a psychic survey and then clear the place before, try 182 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:29,840 to clear the place, move, if there's a lingering presence, move it on, or just clear the place 183 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,560 of negative energy. 184 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:39,760 And my mom said, it was my mom and her colleague who went in and actually did the clearing. 185 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,520 You know, the spiritual cleansing of the place. 186 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,600 And she said, this would be a great business idea. 187 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:53,560 But of course, it's fraught with difficulties in real life. 188 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:57,760 But I thought, hang on, this is a great idea for a book, a group of psychics who would 189 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:04,640 go in and do the psychic cleansings of different properties, you know, and all the sort of 190 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:11,280 delving into the whys and wherefores of why that particular property has come to be haunted 191 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:12,280 as such. 192 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Yeah. 193 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:20,800 You know, so psychic surveys is a group of psychics that specialize in domestic spiritual 194 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:21,800 clearance. 195 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:29,600 And it can get very, very dark indeed throughout the series of the books, you know, as to why 196 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,200 certain properties, you know, are haunted. 197 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,200 Yeah. 198 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:40,360 So we've actually had this kind of a chat on a couple of other podcasts. 199 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:49,080 I'll be quite interested to find out because we were talking about Cornwall as well. 200 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,840 And when you said about studying occultists and stuff, if I mention a name, Alistair Crowley 201 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,840 to you. 202 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,200 He makes into a lot of my books, Crowley. 203 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Did you know that there's a house in Cornwall that he frequented? 204 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,400 Yes, I do. 205 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,400 Now, I've forgotten the name of it, but I do indeed. 206 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,240 I know the person that also used to own it. 207 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,640 But it's in wreck and ruin now. 208 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,240 Yes, I know. 209 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Yeah. 210 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,240 Yeah. 211 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,240 But I'm going down there. 212 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,400 I've tried to find it before and never got to it. 213 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,400 Yeah. 214 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:29,200 Because what I did was the last time I was there, I actually thought it would be a good 215 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,400 idea to go at night and look for it. 216 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,400 Yeah. 217 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,400 Yeah. 218 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,760 And when I got out of the car and I wandered off on my own and I was walking through all 219 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:44,440 this, you know, bush and trees and stuff and then I was like, I'm going to get lost here. 220 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,440 Yeah. 221 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:50,320 And also, you obviously know how to protect yourself in case there's negative energy still 222 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,760 lingering around there. 223 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,760 Yeah. 224 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,760 I'm not going to... 225 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,080 Obviously, you've got a fair idea or else you know where it is. 226 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:03,280 I'm not going to obviously sit on here for people to go because it's one of them ones 227 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,840 that if you don't know what you're doing or you go just for the sake of going, you could 228 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,240 end up getting yourself in a whole lot of trouble. 229 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,360 So I'm not going to mention it. 230 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,920 Have you been to the place in Scotland? 231 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,920 No. 232 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,920 No. 233 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,920 No, that's... 234 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,920 I know where it is. 235 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:21,920 Yeah. 236 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,560 That's the one that Black Sabbath bought, wasn't it? 237 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:27,000 Jimmy Page, wasn't it? 238 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Yeah. 239 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Yeah, it was. 240 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Yeah. 241 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Yeah, Jimmy Page bought it. 242 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Yeah. 243 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Yeah. 244 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Yeah. 245 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Jimmy Page, yeah. 246 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 A lot of things to do there. 247 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,040 I think it's MD9, isn't it? 248 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,040 Or is something else? 249 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,040 It's a bit burned down. 250 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Yeah. 251 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,040 Yeah. 252 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,040 I mean, a part of it burned down. 253 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Yeah. 254 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,040 Yeah. 255 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,040 Yeah, I'll have to try and get to it. 256 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,040 It's interesting. 257 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,040 It's an interesting place. 258 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Yeah. 259 00:13:49,040 --> 00:14:02,560 So the whole Alistair Crowley thing, a lot of people have different views on him as to 260 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:05,120 what kind of a person he was. 261 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,440 A lot of people will tell you that he was the most evil man in the world. 262 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,200 And then other people will tell you, well, no, he wasn't. 263 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,920 He was just looking into scientific aspects of it and was good at his job. 264 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:19,920 You know, so there... 265 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:27,160 I think, in fact, it's discussed by the psychics in the Psychic Survey series. 266 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,920 They discuss that and they both give arguments for and against, you know, someone like Alistair 267 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:32,920 Crowley. 268 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:38,240 But I think the trouble with Crowley was he believed in his own hype in the end and he 269 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:44,040 did die sad and penniless and a drug addict in Hastings, didn't he? 270 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,800 So he came to a murky end. 271 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,800 But yeah, I mean, we've all got the right to delve into these things and try and find 272 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:57,040 out if, you know, and to question stuff, you know, and that's what he did. 273 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,040 We've all got that right. 274 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,080 You know, we've all got the free will, rather, to do that. 275 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,080 Yeah. 276 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:11,960 So, you know, that was up to him and he documented some of the stuff and that was that. 277 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,960 It's interesting. 278 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:13,960 Yeah. 279 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:20,320 And he comes across as quite an interesting character because he also had a few places 280 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,520 abroad as well, didn't he? 281 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Yeah. 282 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,520 Yeah. 283 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Yeah. 284 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,680 And also, you know, like in Paris, I think there was a terrible incident in Paris that 285 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,680 came to a murky end, wasn't there, when he and somebody else tried to raise a demon in 286 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,920 a flat in Paris and his colleague... 287 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:42,680 Well, Crowley was found a gibbering mess and his colleague was found dead. 288 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,600 So, I mean, they certainly, you know, sort of... 289 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,120 There's so much that we don't know about this material world that we live in, you know, 290 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:58,760 and I think you have to be so careful about how far you go and if you do go a certain, 291 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:05,240 you know, if you do go quite far, be prepared for what you might unearth. 292 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:12,840 And even, you know, Crowley, you know, he was a man who did take it to the limits, but 293 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:18,600 wasn't always quite prepared for what he, you know, unearthed, I think. 294 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,600 Yeah. 295 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:29,640 It's a very... it can be a very concerning thing for the likes of us people when you 296 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:37,760 know that there's people out there who will, like, how can I put it? 297 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,000 They'll just think to themselves, we need something to do here. 298 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,000 I know what we'll do. 299 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,480 We'll go and try and hunt ghosts. 300 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,760 And it's like, you know, you walk into these places, you're not protecting yourself, you're 301 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,280 not, you know, you're not reading up on these places, you're not reading up on how to protect 302 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:58,720 yourself, what to do, you know, and it's quite concerning, really, that, you know, we go 303 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:05,320 through this, I've been hit, I've been pushed, I've had things thrown at me, you know what 304 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,320 I mean? 305 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,320 But I know how to deal with that. 306 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,320 Yeah. 307 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,320 Yeah. 308 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,520 And you've got to know how to deal with it if you want to, you know, go that far. 309 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,520 You know, a lot of... 310 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,520 A lot of... 311 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,800 See, I don't like the word horror. 312 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,800 I don't like horror books. 313 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:23,760 I write supernatural suspense or paranormal thrillers, whatever you call it, but I... 314 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:29,040 Unfortunately, my books have to go into the category of horror on places like Amazon, 315 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,080 et cetera, because basically they think, oh, it's got a ghost in it, it has to be horror. 316 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,080 It's not horror. 317 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,080 I don't write horror. 318 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,080 My books... 319 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,360 I'm different in the way I deliver the stories. 320 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,360 It's not gratuitous. 321 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:44,960 Like, my books are very, very human, but we deal with the spiritual side of life. 322 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,480 But actually, it's incredibly human. 323 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:54,760 And I don't like horror because for me, horror is just gratuitous. 324 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,760 It can be ignorant. 325 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,320 I don't like the word ghost hunt. 326 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,680 I don't ever go hunting for ghosts. 327 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,920 You know, why would you go hunting for them? 328 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:12,480 And you know, I'm very careful in my books and in my views not to treat this subject 329 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,480 gratuitously. 330 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,480 Yeah. 331 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,480 But with great respect. 332 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:24,280 And I've also pulled back when I've gone down to Darken Avenue because I have been very... 333 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,840 I mean, if you can see my desk here, it's covered in protective crystals. 334 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,880 There are crystals all over my desk, protection all over. 335 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:40,280 Because I do open, you know, I don't consider myself psychic, but I've spoken to people 336 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,280 who are psychic. 337 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,040 You know, I am opening myself by writing about the psychic world, too. 338 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,040 Yeah. 339 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,040 Negative energy. 340 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,640 Because I'm writing about negative energy. 341 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,920 And there are things that have happened. 342 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:59,120 I've really got to pull the, you know, shutters down and be protected. 343 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:00,120 Yeah. 344 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:03,840 And draw back, you know. 345 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,840 Absolutely. 346 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,200 And I'm not going to go that far just to thrill a reader. 347 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,200 I'm going to... 348 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,200 I believe in what I'm doing. 349 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,880 I believe in the spiritual world and I treat it completely with respect in my stories. 350 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,600 And that is really important to me. 351 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,600 Yeah. 352 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,600 I'm just going to... 353 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:30,120 One second to see if I can find... 354 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:33,760 Oh. 355 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,280 I've got a question on here. 356 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:43,440 I've also got a good friend of ours on here, Nando. 357 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,360 He's actually in Southampton, not far from you. 358 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:47,360 Yeah. 359 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:53,840 I've got Charles Rudd saying, I've been trying to write a book about my near-death experiences 360 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,960 for two years, but I'm out of luck. 361 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:56,960 Any advice? 362 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,960 Writing isn't for everyone. 363 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:58,960 It really isn't. 364 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,960 And a book is a huge undertaking. 365 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:00,960 A book, you know, is typically 80 to 90,000 words. 366 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,960 So it's a huge undertaking. 367 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,960 So perhaps don't think of it in terms of what you're writing. 368 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:03,960 It's a huge undertaking. 369 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,960 And I'm going to read it. 370 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,960 I'm going to read it. 371 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,960 I'm going to read it. 372 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,960 I'm going to read it. 373 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,960 I'm going to read it. 374 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,960 I'm going to read it. 375 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,960 I'm going to read it. 376 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:11,960 I'm going to read it. 377 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,960 I'm going to read it. 378 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:13,960 I'm going to read it. 379 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:14,960 I'm going to read it. 380 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:15,960 I'm going to read it. 381 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,960 I'm going to read it. 382 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,880 And so, in terms of a book, think initially as you're writing down your near-death experiences 383 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,340 or, you know, as a short story. 384 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:28,240 Maybe break it down to about 5,000 words at first and see what you have on the paper. 385 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,400 And if you feel comfortable with that, you can extend it a bit or whatever. 386 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,320 But a book is a huge undertaking, especially if, you know, you've not written one before. 387 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,520 written one before, so you could start in increments rather than going the whole 388 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:52,160 hog. I mean I wrote for 20 years before I wrote a book, you know, in the holiday industry admitted, but I wrote for 20 years before I wrote a book. 389 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,160 Yeah. 390 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,160 So maybe... 391 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:06,960 I mean any advice from someone like yourself, you know, I mean for people who are out there who are wanting to do that kind of thing, you know, I mean, any advice is welcome, they got. 392 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:13,760 Nando, if you're still watching, I have sent you a message, if you want to jump on for a bit, you can, I've sent you the link as well. 393 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:35,520 So when you're writing your books, do you obviously, do you just sort of like, the ideas come to you and you think, right, I'm going to start writing, or do you sort of point theirs down here and there and then start when you've got a lot of ideas? 394 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Sometimes a book will require a lot of research beforehand and I'll write, say, 30 pages of research which I can dip and delve into. 395 00:21:46,080 --> 00:22:01,520 Other times I've just got a basic idea, say a start point and an end point and I just sit down and start writing it and I let the characters dictate how I get from A to B, as it were. 396 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:13,840 But, you know, I mean, the book I'm working on at the moment, which is Ghost Story, set in an apartment in Rome, and is to do also, it's set in modern times, but it's also set during World War Two. 397 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,560 You know, there's a huge amount of research to do for something like that. 398 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:28,000 So that's got, as I say, about 30 to 40 pages of research, Rome during World War Two and everything that took place there. 399 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:41,520 So I couldn't start that book without having got the basis of research, but some books don't need that amount of research in, they only need a far smaller amount, or research as I go. 400 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:53,520 For instance, in another book called Rise to Me, which is a second book in the Psychic Surveys series, there's a lot done about tulpas. 401 00:22:53,520 --> 00:23:00,000 You know, sort of spiritual entities that you create by thoughts. 402 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,280 So I didn't know I was going to really put that in, but I did put it in. 403 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:19,520 So I researched en route whilst writing that book, and especially the work of Alexander David Neal, who she was a woman, a Tibetan. 404 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:32,480 She wasn't Tibetan, but she sort of lived as a Tibetan monk for a while, who actually brought into being her own tulpa and did a hell of a lot of work on research on this and work. 405 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:38,960 And then had trouble getting rid of it once she brought it into being, you know, manifestation, etc. 406 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:47,440 So, and, you know, she wrote a lot about that. So I would research that en route because I didn't know I was actually going to put that in, but it was actually relevant to the plot. 407 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:59,200 It depends. I mean, you know, after 27 books, you take it as, you know, it's still a ride and you still don't know which way you're going to come at it from sometimes. 408 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:08,800 It's just fantastic to hear someone like yourself that has after 27 books, that still has the, I'm going to write more, I'm going to write more, you know what I mean? 409 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:17,680 Because you get people that they'll do certain things, you know, for instance, writing books, I would find that extremely hard. 410 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:25,200 I'd love to write a book myself about experiences and things that I've had, but I would just find that so. 411 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,960 It's not for everyone. I mean, people always say to me, I'd love to write a book, but honestly, sit down and try. It's not for everyone. 412 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:38,720 You know, it's I think it requires and I have got this huge amount of discipline, but also tunnel vision. 413 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:45,840 When you write that book, you have to completely switch off from the world that you're living in and go into this world. 414 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:53,920 You know, you've got to just completely go down that road and immerse yourself and you've got to keep. 415 00:24:53,920 --> 00:25:03,760 It's really difficult because you've got to keep switching between that world and then your real life and the two can get quite confused at times. 416 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:13,360 You know, I find it hard, though, if you're writing a book like this is where I'd have problems is where I'd. 417 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:22,040 I'd start it off OK and I'd already have the end in mind, but it would be it would be the chunk in the middle where it'd be like, 418 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,960 I'll put this and I'll put that and I'll put a woman. I forgot to put that in there. 419 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:32,440 And then, you know, you and then you'd be like, you'll get a certain way and you'd be like, shit, I forgot to put that in. 420 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,880 And then you're trying to figure out now, where did this go? 421 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:43,120 And, you know, to me, yeah, yeah, you know, to me, if I was doing it, I'd need to be able to sit down for a couple of days, probably, 422 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,240 and think, right, what am I going to put in it? 423 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:51,880 And I need to number them from one, you know, obviously one being the start and then going down with all the different. 424 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,280 And then obviously you could take take one out of the middle or put in a lower one above it. 425 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:03,320 And, you know, I'd need to have all my ideas written down, nearly like chapters, if you know what I mean. 426 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:09,720 I need to have them all written down and then think, right, once I have that, then I know where I'm going. 427 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,840 But you see that that that's what some authors do. 428 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,960 I mean, they say there's two camps, there's the planners, which you're just, you know, which you're talking about. 429 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,520 And there's people like me with the pants, who fly literally by the seat of our pants. 430 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,440 And we just sit down with a vague idea and just, OK, take me. 431 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,120 You just open the floodgates and you trust in the muse and you just go. 432 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:41,680 And the characters will take and it's I prefer that approach for me, because for me, 433 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,880 the characters are surprising me with what they're doing, because I didn't think that would happen. 434 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,360 But OK, let's go with it, then it's going to surprise the reader as well. 435 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:53,280 Whereas I think it takes away the element of surprise. 436 00:26:53,280 --> 00:27:00,200 But people work differently, you know, whatever, whatever gets the story told. 437 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,520 Yeah, but you've got a good memory as well when you when you when you write books, 438 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,800 because you've got to remember every word that you've written so that you can think, 439 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,520 I haven't contradicted myself there. 440 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,960 Or as you say, I've got to flesh that scene out a bit more because I've got to put this in. 441 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,480 You know, you've got to remember every word. 442 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,160 And I do virtually. 443 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,400 And then as soon as I look out, that looks gone and I'm on to the next one, 444 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,560 you know, and I'm remembering every word and every scene in that one instead. 445 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,400 And I can't remember what goes in. 446 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,520 And when I don't have to remember, I don't, you know, I forget what I need to read my books. 447 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,720 I forget all the stuff that goes in. 448 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,720 I'm just focused on the latest one. 449 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,400 Right. So we've came we've came to the bit we're waiting on. 450 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,040 Yeah. Your recent Australia trip. 451 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,120 Oh, yeah. So I've been on that. 452 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,280 Well, I went to I had a subesco. 453 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:01,000 I went to Australia for a month, took a month off, went over to see some friends, 454 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,160 went with friends to see some friends to stay with them. 455 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,760 Absolutely had an incredible time and just didn't think about writing. 456 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:17,440 However, I do have I do have an idea for a book setting up in Australia. 457 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,240 I've traveled extensively all around America and I've set books in America. 458 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:28,760 But I really want to do was get into the outback of Australia, you know, this desolate, 459 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:37,160 desolate place. And however, time just didn't permit for me to go as far as I wanted 460 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,560 into into the outback, unfortunately. 461 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,200 Still, I think I think I'm a child. 462 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560 Oh, I was a travel writer. 463 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,720 I can write about, you know, I can Google it all. 464 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Every all the information. 465 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,760 So, yeah, I've got an idea for a book set there. 466 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,360 So even when you're having a subesco, you're having a month off, 467 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,640 the ideas come pouring in. 468 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200 But yeah, what a great place. What a fantastic place. 469 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200 It's just so vast. 470 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,080 So is this now are you now telling us that you're you're working on number 28 471 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,760 and you've got an idea for number 29? 472 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:14,000 I've got a number, an idea of number 29, number 30, number 31. 473 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:20,840 And I've got an idea for a trilogy, which which will have to start around the beginning of, 474 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,680 well, about that towards the middle to end of next year. 475 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,920 The ideas don't stop. You know, once you once you set yourself on a certain path, 476 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,680 you know, something happens, I think, you know, and in terms of writing, 477 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,280 once it took me 20 years to get out of travel writing and into novel writing. 478 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,560 OK. And once I started and once I opened the floodgates, 479 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,040 it's like you can't you can't force it back shut again. 480 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,400 You know, it's the ideas are just keep on coming. 481 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,040 They just back up and up and up. 482 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,640 And you just I just wish I could write faster. 483 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,200 I am pretty prolific. 484 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,120 I can write three books a year, but because I'm full time, that, you know, 485 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,360 so people say to me, how can you write that many years? 486 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,440 I am full time. I should be writing more. 487 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,160 But, you know, I the ideas just back up. 488 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,400 Yeah, I've got tons of ideas. 489 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,600 I've got I've got I'm juggling those series. 490 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,360 I've got the psychic survey series. 491 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,760 I've got Reach for the Dead. 492 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,920 I've got this haunted world, you know, and I've got sort of add to those 493 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,520 and also getting known for my Christmas ghost stories. 494 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,040 So I've got to write one of those every year as well now, 495 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,720 because that's become a bit of a tradition. 496 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,120 Yeah. So do you actually do you go out investigating at all 497 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,400 when like when you're here or when you're away anywhere? 498 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,520 Do you go doing like investigations with other teams or? 499 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,840 No, not really. 500 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,240 I have done I've done quite a few in the past, but not not really. 501 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,680 Not anymore. But I am drawn to if I, you know, if I'm if I'm anywhere 502 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,080 wherever I am and I'll find, you know, a place that's supposed to be haunted. 503 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,640 I am drawn to it and I will go to it 504 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,840 and and do a little exploration of my own. 505 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:10,000 But I haven't been an organized one for quite a while now, probably pre covid. 506 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,680 Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people stopped obviously during covid 507 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,600 and then like either didn't start again or or sort of, 508 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,640 you know, started again a bit sporadically kind of thing. 509 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,680 It's just one of the one of them things. 510 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,760 You know, you're on time. 511 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,120 Yeah. Now, I really enjoy them, but I just, you know, it just hasn't. 512 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,640 I just haven't done it. 513 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,360 I've just been doing other stuff, I suppose. 514 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,520 I've just been busy in my in my hovel writing, you know, 515 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,840 my lonely Garrett producing the books. 516 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,360 You know. 517 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,480 Yeah. 518 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,320 I mean, like you said, just even in even in the paranormal world, 519 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,600 like when you say with writing books, even the likes of us were, 520 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,680 you know, with the podcast, with getting guests and with the with their own teams 521 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,160 to go out and investigate. 522 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,120 It just is another thing. It just never stops. 523 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,040 It just it's in your head constantly. 524 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,440 You know, who do I have on next? 525 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,240 Where will go next? What are we going to get? 526 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,880 I've still got three videos to edit. 527 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,000 I've still got, you know, and it's like you. 528 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,400 I know how you can feel it right in the books because it just doesn't stop. 529 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,000 It doesn't. It doesn't. 530 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Once you set yourself on that path. Yeah. 531 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,720 And it's a great path. It's fascinating. 532 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,720 Yeah. 533 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,720 And someone that you know, will send you another location or, 534 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,080 you know, maybe a family member's been driving past somewhere 535 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,360 and they've seen it all boarded up and they've said, 536 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,840 oh, there's an abandoned building. 537 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,240 That's what I mainly do is abandoned buildings because you're not 538 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,440 you're not tied to asking anybody in pen for the going and stuff like that. 539 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,440 And yeah. 540 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,920 And then it's like you're like, oh, God's sake. 541 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,360 But in a way you're excited because you're like, oh, got somewhere else to go. 542 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,160 But it's like, where am I going to fit this in? 543 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,960 I know. I know. 544 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:01,960 Not enough hours in the day. 545 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,960 It's not enough days. 546 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,960 No, no. 547 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,960 It's just doesn't time go quickly when you're having fun? 548 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,960 Yeah. 549 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:15,240 I mean, on on Monday, on Monday, I went out and we went to. 550 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,400 Went there from from where I am. 551 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,280 I went to Pontefract, 30 East Drive. 552 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,280 Yeah. 553 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,400 Went in there, sat for a while, spoke to Carol, took some pictures and stuff. 554 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:34,040 And then we went from there to a little a little church that's supposed to be haunted 555 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,040 was near Weatherby. 556 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,040 And then we left Weatherby. 557 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,040 We went to Sheffield. 558 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,040 Yeah. 559 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,040 And did a celebrity grave in Sheffield. 560 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,040 And then we came home. 561 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,040 So it was like, you know, it just doesn't stop. 562 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,040 And then you've got three videos there that you need to edit. 563 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,040 You've got photographs that you need to go through. 564 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,040 Then I guess I'm on Monday night and one of my friends online sent me, oh, here, I've 565 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,040 found one for you. 566 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,040 And I'm like, oh, no, no. 567 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,040 Yeah. 568 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:14,040 Well, the thing is, the thing is, you can't end in this in this field. 569 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,040 Yeah. 570 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:24,040 I find that I use my YouTube channel literally for I call it for video storage because I 571 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,040 need somewhere to put them where I can always go back and view them. 572 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,040 Yeah. 573 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,040 Yeah. 574 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,040 So it's like, you know, right. 575 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,040 I've got I've got three to edit. 576 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,040 I've got photos to go through. 577 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,040 I've got another two to do. 578 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,040 You know what I mean? 579 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:43,040 And then someone messaged you and say, oh, that video you did three months ago or whatever 580 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,040 it was, you know, we've heard something that I've got to go through that one again as well. 581 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,040 As much as you're excited for it, you're like, really? 582 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,040 I just I just haven't got the time. 583 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,040 Yeah. 584 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,040 Yeah. 585 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,040 No, I know. 586 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,480 And you can't think another thing as well is you can't just knock a video out every 587 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,040 day because the people who view them don't want to see one every day. 588 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,040 They want to see either one a week or maybe two a week at the tops. 589 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,040 Yeah. 590 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,040 So you're trying to back them up to go on. 591 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,040 And then you end up with loads of them backed up waiting to go on. 592 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,040 And it's just that there's never a happy medium in it. 593 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,040 No, no. 594 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,040 Well, you just got to keep on keeping on just doing what we can, isn't it? 595 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,040 You know? 596 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,040 Absolutely. 597 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,040 Absolutely. 598 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,040 We can. 599 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,040 And we can only do what we can do. 600 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,040 Hey, we we're human. 601 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,040 We might be spirits, spirits, spirits, but we are on a human journey. 602 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,040 And we're limited. 603 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,040 Exactly. 604 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:50,040 So do you want to do you want to tell us and the viewers a little bit more about some of 605 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:55,040 your different books that you have and maybe show some of them to the viewers and. 606 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,040 Yeah. 607 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,040 Well, it's your show. 608 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,040 So you promote whatever you want to promote. 609 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,040 Yeah. 610 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,040 And I'm best known for my psychic survey series. 611 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,040 And that's the first book in psychic survey series. 612 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:15,040 And then you've got you got rise to me and is second guilt for Gilmore Street, the third 613 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,040 and so on and so on. 614 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:22,040 There are nine books in that series so far, but it's very, very popular. 615 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040 It's perhaps my most popular series. 616 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,040 It's it's basically what I'm known for. 617 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,040 There's a there's a character in the psychic survey series called Jed. 618 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,040 And he's a dog spirit, a spirit guide dog. 619 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,040 And he is extremely popular. 620 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,040 Everyone loves Jed. 621 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,040 So this year, this is my latest release. 622 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:52,040 I wrote a story just involving Jed Black Labrador, as you can see, but spirit dog, a spirit guide. 623 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:59,040 And that's quite a very, very dark book set in in a church. 624 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,040 And the churches can be strange places, can't they? 625 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,040 Yeah. 626 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,040 I have other theories. 627 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,040 Reach for the Dead series. 628 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,040 There's three books in that so far that set in America. 629 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:21,040 This series first book is called Mandy and Mandy is actually a haunted doll. 630 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,040 And I met Mandy in my travels through Canada. 631 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:33,040 She's in a tiny little museum in the wards of Canada in a place called Cornell. 632 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,040 And she's hermetic sealed in a glass box. 633 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,040 And she is very dangerous, Mandy. 634 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,040 And this is this is her story. 635 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,040 And you say she's dangerous and she's a haunted doll. 636 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,040 And I fully believe this because I know what they're like. 637 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:55,040 But a lot of people don't necessarily believe that the dolls can be haunted. 638 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,040 They just think that they just look scary. 639 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,040 Any object can have negative energy attached to it. 640 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,040 Exactly. 641 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,040 Now, what is it this doll is supposed to have or supposed to do? 642 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:15,040 She she sort of causes, you know, 643 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:21,040 she's causes negative emotions in in staff members, 644 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:27,040 causes them to feel, I think, something of of what's attached to her. 645 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,040 When they left her out, they'd gone in the next day. 646 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:35,040 And things around her have been flung to the floor, 647 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,040 you know, and and ruined or broken and smashed. 648 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,040 So there's negative something negative attached to her. 649 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,040 Yeah. 650 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:51,040 People feel very uneasy and as I say, emotional in a negative sense. 651 00:38:51,040 --> 00:39:00,040 And so they have they have put this doll in a glass cabinet. 652 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040 I went had a look at her. 653 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,040 I must admit. Yeah, that's a few for us as well. 654 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040 I think strange things with dolls when negative energy is attached, 655 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,040 because obviously the human aspect, you know, 656 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,040 the fact that they have got two eyes in the nose and mouth. 657 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,040 And so we can relate a bit more. 658 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,040 So what fascinated me about Mandy was, is she haunted? 659 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,040 Does she have a negative energy attached to her? 660 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:30,040 Or is there or is it just because we believe she has that we're frightened of her? 661 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:38,040 And we as humans are because of this belief are creating creating a scenario here to do with her. 662 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,040 And that's all that book explores. 663 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:50,040 And that's the first in a series and where our main character is gifted with such psychometry. 664 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:56,040 You know, she can handle objects and and build the kind of energy that's coursing through them. 665 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,040 And so so that's that. 666 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,040 I also do a series called The This Haunted World series, 667 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:09,040 which are books facing around the world's most haunted locations. 668 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,040 And they combine fact with fiction. 669 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,040 This is the first book in that series called The Venetian, set in Venice, 670 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,040 which, of course, is the most haunted. 671 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,040 Well, supposed to be the most haunted city in the world. 672 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,040 And it's set between Venice and Paveglia. 673 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,040 I don't know if you've heard of Paveglia in the Venetian. 674 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,040 I have, yep, yep. I have indeed. 675 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:36,040 So that's a story set between Venice and Paveglia. 676 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,040 The second book in that series is The Eleventh Floor. 677 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:45,040 And that's set in a hotel I stayed in in Williamsport in Pennsylvania, 678 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:53,040 which I deliberately went out my way to visit and stay the night in because of the legend of the 11th floor there. 679 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,040 And I've written a variety of other books as well. 680 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,040 Some are standalones. 681 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:10,040 And I've written with the Circuit Survey series, I've also written three companion books that complement that series. 682 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:16,040 And I've written Christmas ghost stories because everyone loves a Christmas ghost story, as do I. 683 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:21,040 That darkest time of the year, you know, we all want a little ghost story. 684 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:27,040 Well, most of us do. Normal ones. 685 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,040 Having given stuff to that trend and what a bloody good trend it was. 686 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,040 Yeah, absolutely. 687 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:39,040 What I was wanting to mention as well was getting on the subject again about haunted dolls, 688 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:49,040 because it fascinates me, you know, Annabelle doll, you know, the stuff that's happened because of that doll. 689 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:54,040 And, you know, then we'll have Robert the doll as well. 690 00:41:54,040 --> 00:42:06,040 And for anybody watching who doesn't know about these, please, please read up on them and actually take it in what these, 691 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,040 how dangerous these can actually be. 692 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:13,040 People will just say, oh, it's only a doll, it's only a doll. 693 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:22,040 Now, I'm sorry, but the stuff that these dolls have caused, it's especially them too. 694 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,040 You know, if I went to see them, I would have to show the greatest of respect. 695 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,040 People actually have to, you know, ask. 696 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:36,040 They've been told if they want to take their picture, they've got to ask the doll or let the doll know I'm taking your picture now. 697 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,040 You know what I mean? 698 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,040 Oh, I mean, this the story of Mandy. 699 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,040 So don't forget to look up Mandy, the haunted doll. 700 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:50,040 The story of Mandy as well is treated with the greatest of respect, I can assure you. 701 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:56,040 I would not have taken that that task on if it wasn't treated with respect. 702 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,040 So, yeah, yeah. 703 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,040 But you do you have to be careful. 704 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:08,040 You know, when I've written some of my darker books, you know, it's it's like you really do. 705 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,040 You really do have to be careful with what you're, you know, inviting in. 706 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,040 Yeah, absolutely. 707 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:22,040 Face as it were and be very careful when you know, just don't treat it just, you know, it's not there for thrills. 708 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,040 This is all real stuff. 709 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,040 You know, we have so much we don't understand about our world. 710 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:32,040 You know, we live in a material world, but material world is just as bizarre as the spiritual when you think about it. 711 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,040 And that's why you're well attached to it. 712 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:40,040 This is not this is not an entirely material existence. 713 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,040 Yeah, absolutely. 714 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,040 Absolutely. 715 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,040 Well, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on. 716 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,040 It's been lovely. 717 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,040 Honestly, it's been great. 718 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,040 Do you want to just shout out? 719 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:03,040 Do you have like a website and stuff where people can find you and where they can find your books and stuff? 720 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,040 OK, my website, www.shanehestrothers.com. 721 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,040 You can also find me on Amazon. 722 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040 My books are on Amazon, Shaney Struthers. 723 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,040 And you can look at my author page and see all the books on there. 724 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,040 And yeah, that's where you can find me. 725 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:30,040 And on social media, Facebook, I've got an author page, Shaney Struthers author. 726 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,040 I'm mainly on Facebook. 727 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,040 I'm not really. 728 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,040 I just don't have time for the other. 729 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:42,040 I should. I should make time, but I don't have time for Instagram and Tiktok and what have you. 730 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,040 I am on there, though. 731 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,040 But I really go on them. 732 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,040 I'm just too busy. 733 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,040 Not a problem. Well, again, Shaney, thank you for coming on. 734 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,040 Thank you. 735 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,040 It's been a pleasure talking to you. 736 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:05,040 And hopefully some of the viewers out there will will will see your books and go on by them and have a read at them, 737 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:10,040 because I'm actually going to go for one or two themselves and have a read at them. 738 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,040 Yeah. OK. Oh, thank you. 739 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,040 Well, yeah. Thank you very much. 740 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,040 It's been great being on and having a chat with you. 741 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,040 Yeah, no problem. 742 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:23,040 And I'll stay in contact with you and we might even have you on again sometime if you're. 743 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,040 Yeah, sure. 744 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,040 But get a few more books out and then we're going to have you on the remote again and stuff. 745 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,040 Crack that whip. 746 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,040 Get writing. 747 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,040 Get your desk and start writing. 748 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,040 Get up here, get your pen and start writing. 749 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,040 Like I say, it's been an absolute pleasure. 750 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:51,040 And I hope your your books go well and the ones that you're writing and stuff go well as well. 751 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:57,040 And we'll we'll see you again at some point on here. 752 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,040 And like I say, I'll stay in touch with you anyway. 753 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,040 Thank you so much. OK. 754 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,040 No problem. 755 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,040 Bye. Bye, everyone. 756 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,040 Thanks. Bye. 757 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,040 And that's everything from talking with the source for this episode. 758 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,040 But keep on watching for more. 759 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:39,040 So goodbye for now.