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It's me, Robin from Half-Firm Paranormal and talking with the Source. Unfortunately AJ

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can't be here at the minute, he may pop in through the show but you're stuck with me.

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Also we have a guest host coming in for half an hour or so, the one and only the paranormal

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consultant Matt Barron will be joining us in just a second and we also have a fantastic

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show for you tonight. We have a guy who you will know from the UK's TV programme Most

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Haunted. He was a medium up until recently on the programme, he still is a medium, he

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was on the programme for a while, he was a very very good addition to the programme and

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he is a very very good medium and well known as well. He has come on talking with the Source

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tonight to inform us obviously of what he's done in the past, let us know a little bit

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about himself and maybe if he's doing anything in the future. But in the meantime we will

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just see, he was having a bit of trouble logging in so we'll just see if he is on. And there's

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Anthony, how are you doing brother? How are you? And just see, and here he is. Please

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welcome everybody Chris Conway. Hello Chris. Hi Robin, sorry, bad start. Hi Robin, please

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be here and to have a chat with you. Yeah, yeah, I was just basically telling everybody

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they're going to practically know you from Most Haunted really, aren't they? Yeah, hopefully,

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if they've watched the show then yeah hopefully. Yeah, I mean it was a good show, obviously

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there was a, the sort of, had certain mediums on at certain times and I mean as far as I

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was concerned you were always bang on with everything that you got and stuff so you know,

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you were one of the better ones on there, in my opinion anyway. Thank you Robin, that

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means a lot to me. No, no, definitely. But do you want to start by telling everybody

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how you first, the normal question, how you first got into the paranormal? Yeah, of course.

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I've been in the, I've been communicating, sorry, I've been communicating with spirits

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since I was about seven years of age and it first became known that I had that gift when

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I was in, I lived in a council estate in Glasgow and my parents, they heard me chatting away

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to someone in the bedroom, they came through to see who I was talking to and they weren't

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very happy that I brought someone in without asking them. So what they did, what they did

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is they came through to try and get me into trouble and there was this strange little

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boy, there was this strange little boy talking to what they thought was nothing. I was looking

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into the corner and I was having this conversation. So my dad, he wasn't being totally serious,

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he was asking who I was talking to and I told him that I was talking to this old lady and

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an old man and I said that the old man speaks to me but the old lady just stands and smiles.

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So my dad asked, well, who is the old man? And apparently I gave him this weird name

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and I don't know what the name was now and he just kept going on, he was just winding

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me up and probably about a week later apparently he was in a neighbour's house and he was telling

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her about Chris having invisible friends and he says Chris being Chris, that's quite a

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weird child probably, they're old age pensioners so they're all having a chuckle at this until

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he mentioned the name and apparently when he mentioned the name the old lady's jaw hit

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the ground because it wasn't the name of the old man that lived in our house before us,

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it was his nickname. And the description that I gave of the lady was spot on and apparently

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that's what she used to do, she would never speak, she would just stand beside him as

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he rabidly on. So from there they knew that there was something a bit strange about their

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son and I was quite lucky because it was taken away from being an invisible friend to suddenly

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they were thinking, right, okay, this is a bit weird, has he got some sort of gift? And

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because of that it helped me develop it because I think what happens to society, they convince

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children that it's an invisible friend that they're speaking to and then what happens

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is you lose the ability. So I think I was just lucky.

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Yeah, definitely, definitely. Before we go any further I just want to introduce you to

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Matt Barron there, our paranormal consultant. Matt, that's Chris Conway from Most Haunted

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Pleasure to meet you Chris.

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Hiya Matt, pleased to meet you.

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You're doing well.

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So Matt's quite big in the paranormal world in America so...

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Fantastic.

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Who have you been talking to?

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Well actually Chris, I just want to say I caught part of the story but I find it really

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great that your family supported you like that and then it's really cool because a lot

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of times when we investigate some people forget to talk to the kids that are in the homes

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and you ask about the imaginary friends and stuff like that so that's really cool. That's

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really cool. So I don't know where we're at so I'm just going to wing it but I didn't

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get the script so I don't know. But so I hear you're on Most Haunted so how did that begin?

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How did that career start for you?

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It came about... I was on the local news about... I was doing an event. It was, from what I

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can remember, it was a charity event and the news guys wanted to make a feature of it.

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the director of Most Haunted had seen that and I was then on his desk and Living at the

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time wanted a few mediums to come in as guest mediums so they asked me to come in for three

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shows so I said yeah of course. I'd done two shows and then they asked me, they asked Living

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if it would be okay to not have guest mediums but to have a resident medium again. So Living,

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they had watched the shows, they'd agreed that that was okay and I was then offered

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resident mediumship so I kind of fell into it if the truth be known.

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That's awesome. You never know who's watching or listening in. That's awesome.

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And it goes in your favour as well. But the one thing I was going to say to you Chris

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was the one I remember watching, I remember watching all the ones because at that time

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it was before Most Haunted actually sort of went off for the sabbatical they had. I know

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they're back on YouTube now but there was one in particular and I'm trying to remember

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where it was. It seemed to me it was like an old castle and it started off at the start,

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you and Yvette went into a room, it might have been in the actual keep, like an old

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room and I remember you said as you went down you were like you know there's someone here,

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there's someone there and if I can remember correctly you may have got something thrown

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at you quite early on in that as well and you were able to actually communicate with

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one on each side of the room or something like that if I remember correctly.

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I wonder if that's in the Rarerri jail possibly because I remember when we went to the jail

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there was two different spirits sort of trying to get my attention. There was one who was

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a murderer, he committed murder, there was also a young girl or a lady from what I can

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remember from that one and when I was talking there was like a chain beside the door and

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we all heard this chain rattle and there was nobody near it. One thing people do know about

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me that watch me, they know I don't BS, if there's nothing there I'll say there's nothing

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there but at this particular point there was nobody near this chain and it was behind the

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camera so I was actually facing it and this it rattled right in front of my face and so

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that was that was quite a freaky moment because it's all spying familiar so it could have

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been that one. Yeah and I'm not knowing for getting scared because I'm a big believer

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if you communicate with the dead and you know who's there it seems a bit strange that they

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say boo and you jump and run. It's like a human being saying boo to you, you're not

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going to run. Hence why it wasn't very often I was scared but sometimes I got freaked out

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and that was one of the times that I got freaked out. Yeah it's a fight or flight and I'm swinging

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every time you know. So actually Chris that actually leads me to a question that was actually

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brought to me a few days ago by one of our friends and brothers. So there's a couple

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of theories out there I'm sure you're aware of them that spirits see people very differently

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than we see people. Do you like how do you think the spirit see me? Sorry Matt the line

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is really bad I can't hear what you're saying. You guys hear me alright? I can hear you.

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I don't know if it's because I'm on a phone because my camera wouldn't connect so I had

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to resort to the phone I don't know if maybe it's the setup. Streaming on is a little finicky

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when it comes to mobile devices I don't know why. But so we all there's a theory out there

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that Chris that spirits see us differently than how we see them and we interpret them.

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And there was a question brought up about people have gifts and abilities like medium

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sensitive and stuff like that. What is your take on that? Do you think spirits see the

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mediums differently or okay he's out. I'll bring him back in. I scared him. How are you

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been brother? Haven't spoken to you in a minute. You alright? Not too bad not too bad. I agree

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with Ray. You guys need to stop giving me links. Oh man. We've got George Alexander

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we've got JD Hill we've got Raymond Newsome we've got the one and only New Zealander Janny

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who's still drunk from last night by the way. He'll not appreciate me saying that. That'll

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be me later. We don't mind. And Anthony he'll be back in again because he's just having

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a connection problem so bear with us. I agree with Anthony there. What's Matt? I don't know.

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What is Matt? Matt is a lifesaver that's what Matt is. Test results are still here. Sorry

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I got picked out. It's alright it's the bad line so it's fine. Can you guys hear me okay?

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Yes it's a bit jumpy but we can hear you. Yeah I don't know what's happening. I think

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spirits are playing games. Yeah sometimes it's like this. It's not a paranormal podcast

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without any tech problems. Sorry what was the question? Sorry. No you're fine. You're

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fine Chris you're fine. So we there's I don't know if you've heard of these but there are

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theories out there in the field that spirits see us differently than how obviously we see

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them but that also includes mediums, sensitives, people with gifts and abilities. Do you feel

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that is legit? Do you think the spirits are seeing people with gifts and abilities like

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beacons with the lights? Do you think you know energy signatures have anything to play with

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that or what's your name? Okay if I picked a question up properly from a really really

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really bad line. Are you asking if spirits see us different from how we see them? Yes.

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Is that the question? That and people with gifts and abilities. Right okay I think it's

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different every spirit is is very different from from each other so it's just like on

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this on this plane and some spirit don't even know they've passed on. Like for example I

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was doing a paranormal investigation at the weekend there just in Nottinghamshire and

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we were communicating with four men and with these four men they had been plotting something

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so they were very secretive but the thing with them was they got killed when they were

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trying to do the mission that they were plotting and the death was so quick they didn't actually

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realise that they were dead. So what was happening was when we were doing a Ouija board with

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them and they were actually telling me when I was communicating with them that they were

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communicating with the dead so they were convinced that we were dead whilst we were talking to

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them as if they were dead. So it was quite a strange strange thing but most spirit that

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I do come into contact with they do see people with a gift different because it's almost

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like a telephone box. I think they draw upon what energy because I'm a great believer of

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talking about energy rather than talking about spirit because I'm a great believer that's

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what links us. It's not so much that I'm sitting talking to someone's granny it's that I'm

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communicating with the energy that that grandmother once had so the reason that I can communicate

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with her is because I can use my energy to connect to her energy and between that we

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can then focus and proceed with some sort of conversation very much like a telephone.

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So I think spirit it's like a beacon because they can obviously feel our energy as well

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so they can they can sense that when someone's energy can connect to theirs and allow them

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aware that they're there and allow them to be able to communicate with me. So hopefully

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that answers the question. Yeah that definitely works. Yeah so what I'm gonna do as well Chris

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if it's all right with you I mean I know you told me that you don't you don't do many podcasts

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but obviously we'll do the show now but because the connection is not great I'll also invite

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you back on another time as well if you want to come back on again at some point. Of course.

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And then obviously because AJ will be on as well I just need to say that AJ hasn't been

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well and he is he's had to go to the hospital for something I'm not sure. He hasn't been

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well so obviously I want him to be on as well because he has a few questions and stuff so

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I appreciate it. That's absolutely fine with me Robin if we'll get in touch and we'll arrange

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another date and then we can we can do this properly. I'll make sure that I'm on the computer

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so we'll have a proper connection proper sound rather than all speaking like Daleks out of

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Doctor Who to each other. Well Matt's like that all the time anyway so. You beat me too

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I was gonna say that's usually my voice. Well hopefully hopefully AJ if you're watching

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this brother much love to you and hope for a speedy recovery brother. Yeah. Seriously.

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We'll get we'll get that organized guys that sounds fantastic. Yeah yeah massive solar

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flares the next two days. Oh I heard about that. I haven't heard about it. Yeah there's

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a bunch of that could be interesting energy wise. It could be. So do you still do you

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still do the medium work. Yes yes. I do. Sorry I dropped off again there. And I do I do do

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still still do a mediumship and I'm obviously I've stepped back from most haunted a while

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back and I do still I do still do mediumship and person to person readings. I also do a

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lot of ghost hunts paranormal investigations which I absolutely love because it means that

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I can get personal contact with fans of the paranormal shows which I absolutely enjoy

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because you get so much enjoyment so interacting with these guys and feeding off their energy

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as they feed off mine and and with some really good nights. Yeah actually that's not a bad

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eye that's not a bad thing that could be why the reception is on and off. Very possible.

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Good point the flares I think you could be could be right. Not just a pretty face. Anyway

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It's just completely gone. Fair. So Chris one of the questions I always like to ask

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on my shows is what's one of your most memorable locations. What's one that just really sticks

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out and why. TV wise I would say probably there's a couple that but there was one which

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was a pressure was called Barclay Castle and the reason it sticks out. Nothing to do with

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being absolutely terrified or anything like that. It was the spirit connection that that

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I had got and the guy was a bit of a joker. Anybody that knows me I'm a bit of a joker

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myself I like I like a good laugh I'm always I'm always cracking jokes and taking the pee

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out of people it's it's what I do. And so it's I think that's why I get such a good

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connection with this guy and the weird thing was he actually suddenly everybody around

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a seance table got not just a fit of the giggles but if anybody watches the show back the tears

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were rolling down my face the tears were rolling down the face everybody's face and what was

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it went from people screaming to people laughing and the more the drawers kicked out the more

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the worse the laughter got and at the end nobody could talk it was just the weirdest

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situation ever and I think it was only something that my it wasn't my second show in most haunted

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showing but it was recorded if that makes sense. So after the show they say this isn't

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the kind of spirit you usually bring through is it? I don't think it's what we want every

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time but that was probably one of the weirdest and another one was Carlisle Castle which

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is just in the border between Scotland and England so there's a lot of history there

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with the battles and the wars going on. Yeah there was a lot of fighting on that way wasn't

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there between? Yes loads of it so when I went there at first the spirit weren't really what

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communicated with me because I had a Glasgow accent I was from Scotland and there was a

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bit of a hatred going on there and because apparently the Scots had taken over the castle

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and then they'd put the castle back and I didn't think it was going to be a successful

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night but it ended up with loads of activity they did eventually communicate and at one

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point we were all standing and I turned round and Lesley Smith the historian was beside

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me so I turned round I was looking at her I turned round to look somewhere else and

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Lesley was across the room and I quickly looked round and she was still there and this happened

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quite a few times to quite a few different people and it was quite a freaky experience

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and apparently this particular room in the castle was infamous for shapeshifters. Yeah

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okay. It's nearly like cloning in a way isn't it like the person's being cloned and in there.

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Well if you run into another consultant run. I've got two questions for you Chris. Okay.

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The first one is this one do you have global premonitions what have you seen and do you

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know what they mean? Global premonitions it's something I don't dabble in because for the

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simple reason I think it's this is I'm not insulting anybody here but I think it's too

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easy to fake and no matter what you predict it's going to happen somewhere in the world

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there's earthquakes every day there's storms every day there's floods every day it's too

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easy to make yourself right and I think really what I think really what obviously you know

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was I actually you know mentioning saying that you know there will be something but

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do you actually have the premonitions even though you don't want to say do you? Yes I

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do. Yeah yeah sorry yeah if that was a question yeah I do but it's something that I don't

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as I say I don't leave myself open to accusations of fakery it's something I'm very guarded

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towards I always have been. I don't like to tell things which are too easy for these wannabe

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parapsychologists to jump on the keyboards and start saying well I could say that it

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could be because of this or that so the way that I work is I point it out myself if I

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tell something I say I'm telling you this but I'll be honest with you it's quite easy

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to for anybody to come up with it and I'm not but by that I'm not saying every medium

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that does that or psychic that does that is faking so please don't pick me up wrong in

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that it's I'm not insulting anybody it's just something that personally I don't like to

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do but everybody works differently. Yeah and the other question I have from Anthony great

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brother of ours is what is your technique for the spirit board? My technique is simple

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it's I know there's so much about blessing and turning the glass so many ways other people

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will say drip candle wax on the back and my technique is just open the thing up it's open

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it up speak to spirit make sure you've got somebody that knows what they're doing there

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a medium who can control what's coming through if you've got someone who's in control of

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the spirit energy there's no need for all the is okay to say bullshit yeah yeah there's

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no need for all the dramatized bullshit it's to me it's there just to build up the atmosphere

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which is cool which is good but I don't think it makes any difference because I've heard

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people say it's evil and I'll ask them well if it's evil surely standing in a room asking

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spirit to do something is going to have the exact same reaction because you're doing the

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exact same thing do you know what just you saying that and I don't mean to cut you off

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but I've actually been told and it's true when you think about it when you do a spirit

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box session right like you use an app on your phone an sb7 whatever you want to use you're

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effectively doing a vocal Ouija board really aren't you yeah really yeah even though I

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will use the board myself but I feel more in control when I'm doing a spirit box because

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I actually feel that I'm letting through what I want to let through whereas sometimes I

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feel that the board sometimes it could be manipulated and something might slip through

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that you don't want but yes you know and the other way I do think that people are right

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when to say that a spirit box session is basically another way of doing it but as vocally rather

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than yeah it's an electronic Ouija board let's face it a Ouija board the name Ouija comes

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from it's a yes yes board it's we French for yes and ja yes okay and it's basically

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when we'd strip all the Razzmatazz away from it that Hollywood put onto it and the films

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in the 1980s it's basically a communication tool and before the Hollywood movies took

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over and had it as a center of evil most families in Victorian areas had a Ouija board to use

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to communicate and with spirit that they had lost in various wars and it was a party game

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it was a party game it wasn't this big evil thing that it's made out to be nowadays and

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children had them adults had them everybody had them it was just something a gathering

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and you would you try and communicate to great uncle Albert.

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Chris I think you said it a hundred percent and I and I've said it before too it's a tool

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a board is a spirit board is just a tool and to get any other tool you have to know how

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to use it properly.

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Chris Exactly as long as you've got someone there who understands how to control spirit

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control the energy and not allow anything negative to come through sorry not come through

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onto the board but anything to then come from the boards into the room and it's then you're

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okay because a medium can control that they can allow the spirit to conform they can allow

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them to come into the room to communicate via the board but if they try to do anything

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sneaky or or even evil or nasty then a medium can really cut it off anytime they want and

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I've done thousands of boards over god knows how many events and I've never ever looked

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in the the mirror of my car and seen Frankie from the castle beside me because someone

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who's linked to a building a historical building they're there because they're connected to

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that building or they're connected to something that happened at the building they're not

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interested in coming home with us to watch coordination street they want to they want

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to be where they are they're interested in communicating with us because they it's a

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it's a puzzle for them too it's something that we're working on hand in hand with spirit

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then they're not interested in possessing anybody and taking and going home with them

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it's they've been there hundreds of years they don't they don't want to that's good

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I love that well guys I have to get going I have my I have my own show to get ready

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for Nando we're going to be doing a quick show for the global ghost hunt here in a little

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bit and then I gotta get ready for my show this evening not a problem I appreciate you

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coming on much love it was fantastic to meet you Matt you as well hopefully we'll get to

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speak in the future oh absolutely we'll be in touch good man have a good night have a

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great night see you so lovely guy I've got two questions for he's a he's a fantastic

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guy Matt is honestly he'll help you out to no end honestly yeah I can tell that he's

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got lovely energy yeah yeah a couple of questions I want to ask you if you the first one is

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if you can or if you want to answer you know I mean it's both but with within a Ouija board

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I mean if I if I do a spirit box session on my investigation and I have that safety net

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if you want to call it in that where I feel that when when when me and my mother-in-law

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who who's in the chat actually Chris Boyle when we're on a location and I decide to do

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a spirit box I feel fully in control and and so does she as to you know who comes through

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if I'm if I'm trying to speak to a female spirit and there's a male that's speaking

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over it and I'd be like right sir can you stand back and let the female speak and you

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feel in control well if you can answer this is there any way with an actual physical would

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you call a physical Ouija board with a glass where you can actually control or how do you

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control who comes through and can you put them to you know to the back unfortunately

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we can't control who comes through they're going it's it's like opening up your door

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and hoping somebody nice comes in you don't know who's going to come off the street through

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your door and into your house and that's you I won't lie you're opening yourself up to

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that and that's why I always say do it with someone who has a gift and and I mean by a

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proper gift not not saying they've got a gift but then things go wrong and trouble starts

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and with the the spirit box I don't think you're inviting them in as much which I think

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is where your safety net is and because you're listening to that you're listening and you're

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listening for the boys to come through the the airwaves and control because electricity

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and sound waves is the closest form to spirit energy that there is so that's why it's easy

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for them to communicate via that that particular instrument so I think you've got that safety

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net because you at no point are you inviting them in yeah you're there listening for them

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and then communicating with them with a Ouija board you are inviting them in there's there's

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no nice way to say that and but if you've got a medium there who's in control of the

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energy you're safe you're very very safe yeah are you are you still based in Scotland or

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are you based in England now no I'm based in Scotland I love Scotland I would never

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I would never ever move away from Scotland I love the country too much and I'm not far

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from Blackpool all right okay yes I know very well now there there used to be I don't know

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if you ever heard of it or not but I'm going to give this as an example because this is

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a question again that my mother-in-law in the chat has always asked me and I tried because

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I do have the gift but I'm not as advanced as a lot of people are I tried to answer the

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question really and as much as I can but I I towards the m6 there's a place it was

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like the back of Blackpool it was called Whittingham have you ever heard of it I haven't no but

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I do drive past that we very frequently right well do you know Garstine yes well if you

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can pass Garstine you're heading towards Preston if you turn left I think it is and you head

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as if you're heading away from the coast there was a there's a little village called Whittingham

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and there used to be a massive old mental asylum there okay right it was abandoned it

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was lying empty for years and stuff like that and people used to go and do ghost hunts

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and stuff but they've now they've flattened it a few years ago and they're building houses

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on it now the question that she always asked me and I tried the answer was the spirits

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that were in that asylum are they they're basically then going to be the spirits and

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then new houses because as far as they're concerned they're still going to be living

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there like it was the asylum is that is that the way you normally you find it goes spot

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on 100 spot on that's why they're not going to they're not going to go with it sure they're

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not no they're not they're not going to leave no they're unless they're helped across they're

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not going to leave they're there they're still seeing the scenery around about them the building

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as their time they're not seeing it as an old run down house or building or mansion or castle

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so when that building is taken away they're still connected to that land so they come

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attached to the land basically then don't they of course they do yeah and that's what even in

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investigations that I do there's most of the time I'll be bringing through spirit that are connected

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to the building and I would say nine times out of ten then spirit will start to come through and say

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oh well I was actually here and it was a farm or I was here and there was a tree here and I used to

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do this and so they're still there they're still connected and it's so it's the exact same way when

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that building is gone those spirits are still going to be around so then people who are moving

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these brand new houses thinking they're brand spanking new are going to have a brand new haunted

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house they are yeah they don't realize they've got a launcher I need to buy one of these I really do

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yeah okay if you're doing this way quite often like I say you've got me on that facebook hit me up

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sometime we'll try and organize something because it sounds like a plan yeah most of my events

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are in England even though I'm based in Scotland and the only reason for that is

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I don't know why this is but I feel and you'll probably understand yourself but I feel that

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round about you're you're nodding them in Derby and these kind of areas they're all big big ghost

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hunters yeah and then when you sort of move away from from the midlands etc you I personally find

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that you've not got the same the same passion as the people there have it just seems to be the

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the epicenter of of the ghost hunting world so yeah and that's why I tend to base myself

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not base myself but doing most of my events down there because um it's and

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involve the guests because that they've done it so many times that they're coming with a good attitude

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and I'm a big believer when I'm doing a ghost hunt I like to make people laugh I'm from I'm from

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Glasgow it's what we do and you're Irish so you're the same it's it's what we do it just comes that

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through to us and um and I'm a big believer of doing that on a ghost hunt because people I'm not

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being disrespectful to spirit or to any of you guys but I'm going to take the piss out of you

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because it builds up the energy as soon as you start laughing as soon as something's going on

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you'll hear something behind you and that's that's it's almost as a spirit they're using that energy

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but at the same time they're thinking hold on a minute you guys are here to see me so I'm going

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to show you that and they'll do something and then bang it's all started again whereas without laughter

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that energy is gone and it's replaced by boredom and by my experience because you get tired you

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hit the wall that we all know about you hit that wall and if you've not got a mechanism to

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boost your way through that wall you're just going to give up and if it and that's when it gets quiet

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yeah yeah the uh we we did a few up there actually we did uh the Edinburgh vaults

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yep done them a lot of times yeah and we also did the Mary King's close

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yep done that a couple of times yeah yeah well the Edinburgh vaults we did it we were actually

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were on a tour of them and they took us into the into the what they call the first room like a big

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room and the guy was obviously he was all dressed up in his old clothes and he was giving us this

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whole talk about you know what it was and stuff and I remember I because I had my mother-in-law

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and my partner uh she passed away in January but she was with me as well sorry to hear that

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no it's okay it's okay and we were there along with with the rest of the people and I turned to

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the the guy was talking everybody's listening to him and I happened to turn there was a gap in the

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in the people and looked over into the corner of the room the dark corner and there was a guy

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standing there and he had like a cloak on and like a nearly like a top hat on and he was just

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standing in the corner watching all of us and the guy who was actually this this was a spirit guy

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by the way yeah he was doing the tour he says this room is renowned for a guy called the call him the

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watcher oh yeah yeah and I was like that's exactly who that is I'm looking at now and I was I was

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nudging into him going look over there look they're like you know where where and like you know one of

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the things that we have in this job you know what I mean where you're saying look at that people are

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going that's right and yeah the lucky is if you're crazy but that this guy he was clear as day to me

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he was just standing there and he was just watching us it's an ice cold stare in his face

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just he didn't move he didn't blink he didn't he just stood watching and then when he says

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that's the there's a watchman in here and I was like that's exactly who that is

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I know exactly who you're talking about I'm assuming that you because there's two sets of

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bolts there's the there's um if you've got me and things close and then when you go down it's a while

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since I've been up and I've not got a good memory but there's blair street bolts which is more like

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it looks like a wine cellar an old old wine cellar and caves so you're walking through all these

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caves and then yeah that that's that's um mr boots I think they call them the name does sound

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familiar now you say that but this guy was saying that people it must be a nickname for him the

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watchman the watcher that's right that's right but but as I'll be honest though I'm the kind of person

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that I've got a terrible memory so I make stuff up as I go along so mr boots probably isn't the

402
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:26,580
name I convince myself that I'm right and I'm always wrong I'm sure that ringing the bell from

403
00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:31,380
something that does yeah yeah I've got a terrible memory but it's definitely the watcher you're

404
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:37,140
right he sits watching you stands watching you and I know exactly what room you're talking about and

405
00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:43,620
I have seen him myself he's quite a menacing figure yeah I mean the only thing about it is

406
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:49,620
that I don't like is it was a it was a tour so it was like you know you got a little talk with him

407
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:54,100
and then you had to move on you get a little talk and you have to I like having my own time

408
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:58,340
you know I mean this guy's over in the corner watching me I'm just starting to communicate

409
00:44:58,340 --> 00:45:03,780
with him you know what I mean exactly you're being ushered on you know next yeah I've never

410
00:45:03,780 --> 00:45:11,620
been on I've never done a tour I actually um had hired the the vaults out so I did it overnight

411
00:45:11,620 --> 00:45:20,260
um quite quite quite a few times um in fact we we used to do it was the dog charity I can't um

412
00:45:20,260 --> 00:45:29,220
um that Glenn Acora is I think Glenn's the is she the president of it or I can't remember but I did

413
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:37,140
it as a favor to to to Glenn um I went and did the ghost hunt for her and then that was that was for

414
00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:44,900
the charity to raise them the money for the poor wee dogs and then I've done a few different ghost

415
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:50,660
hunts there as well after that so it's I can imagine what the tours would be like because

416
00:45:50,660 --> 00:45:55,700
it's numbers isn't it they just want you in and out so they can they can get the next paying customers

417
00:45:55,700 --> 00:46:02,900
through exactly exactly but there is one place I'd love you to go to at some point and tell me what

418
00:46:02,900 --> 00:46:14,180
you think and it doesn't cost anything okay it's oh it's just outside Glenrothes okay it's called

419
00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:20,580
Thornton Fever Hospital have you heard of it I haven't no right it's just I can't remember

420
00:46:20,580 --> 00:46:25,700
exactly where it is but I think it's on google maps it's when we were up there we were looking

421
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:34,180
for places to do and I found this one and when I when I when we pulled up it was like there was

422
00:46:34,180 --> 00:46:37,620
wire fence and all around it but there was gaps in it we just we just stepped through

423
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:46,260
yeah there was one sort of building it would have reminded you of like a like an old pub and restaurant

424
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:52,660
and then behind it there was all these long like buildings big corridors and stuff that you could

425
00:46:52,660 --> 00:46:57,860
tell it had been a hospital at one point it was just really you know you walk you walked in there

426
00:46:57,860 --> 00:47:02,180
was one of the rooms it's just like one single wheelchair in the middle of it you know really

427
00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:10,980
really creepy wow this was quite early on in my journey so at that time I wasn't sort of the kind

428
00:47:10,980 --> 00:47:14,980
of one that would be like right I'm not moving from this room till I get something yeah it was

429
00:47:14,980 --> 00:47:21,380
like it was like right this is creepy couple of photographs quick videos let's go but it's

430
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:27,220
abandoned it doesn't cost it it's just now when I was there it was just lying wide open oh you need

431
00:47:27,220 --> 00:47:33,540
to send you need to send me the the details for that that's a really interesting place yeah it's

432
00:47:33,540 --> 00:47:40,900
a little town called Thornton it's just outside Glenrothes I'll try and find a pen for you

433
00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:47,940
I'm sure you have it somewhere yeah please that sounds an interesting place it reminds me of I

434
00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:55,940
don't know if you've ever done Newsham in Liverpool yes have you done there that's a fantastic place

435
00:47:55,940 --> 00:48:02,900
it sounds like that but obviously not as big as Newsham because Newsham is huge but it does remind

436
00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:09,300
me of it sounds very much like that and Newsham is one of my favorite venues to do it's such a

437
00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:15,620
if you're ever doing Newsham again you'll be a sure and I'll come down and I'm grand with you

438
00:48:15,620 --> 00:48:22,180
because we went once to Newsham with a company I'm not going to mention their name but

439
00:48:22,180 --> 00:48:29,700
they were they were useless absolutely useless we we booked it for the three of us again and

440
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:36,660
it was the last three places left that was the next four we booked it online we turned up and

441
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:41,140
they were standing outside with a manifest letting people in and they were like your names aren't on

442
00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:46,020
the list you can't come in it's your people yeah and we were like no we booked it last night and

443
00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:54,340
we had to actually show them the online receipt that we had so that they would let us in now they

444
00:48:54,340 --> 00:49:00,260
let us in and the crowd that we were all sort of sitting there in these chairs that were giving

445
00:49:00,260 --> 00:49:08,500
this talk before the start of it and they asked had anybody there any spiritual medium qualities

446
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:14,180
anything they got any my mother-in-law's sitting there with me going put your hand up and I'm like

447
00:49:14,180 --> 00:49:19,460
no no not yet not yet just leave it just leave it nobody was nobody was saying anything and then all

448
00:49:19,460 --> 00:49:25,220
of a sudden they were like he is pointing to me and they were like the kids were being yeah the

449
00:49:25,220 --> 00:49:33,460
thing is we're like all right okay and then that was it now we went downstairs first to the corridor

450
00:49:33,460 --> 00:49:37,860
where all the little work rooms were you know what I'm about yeah yeah I know exactly where you are

451
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:43,540
we were standing there at the bottom of the stairs beside the toilets and we were standing

452
00:49:43,540 --> 00:49:47,620
and we're standing we were split into a couple of groups but our group was standing there and it was

453
00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:54,100
complete pitch black and had one of these glow glow ball things I had on the floor and they were

454
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:59,380
trying to get spirit to move it and as we're standing there and the guy was was asking for

455
00:49:59,380 --> 00:50:04,820
the moving stuff like this at the corner of my eye I seen something moving I turned and this figure

456
00:50:05,380 --> 00:50:10,260
and it was a it was a lady it was a like a they call them a sister didn't it it was a nurse

457
00:50:10,260 --> 00:50:19,380
it was a nurse call them a sister she she had come in and she walked she walked down the corridor

458
00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:26,420
and walked into the toilet and I was like I said excuse me I was like can I someone needs to

459
00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:32,420
there's a a spirit's just walked into that toilet there and my my friends were going and they were

460
00:50:32,420 --> 00:50:39,380
like yeah you carry on anyway and I was like you're joking ah I just just told you there's

461
00:50:39,380 --> 00:50:44,740
someone moved walked in there and you're more interested in getting this ball to move I think

462
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:53,700
do you know that's that's one of the reasons I started doing I run my own events now um and

463
00:50:54,260 --> 00:50:58,820
it was one of the reasons to be honest with you Robin because I was getting hired in by some

464
00:50:59,380 --> 00:51:08,420
companies and you're at their hands it's um and I don't like I'm a big believer like like I feel

465
00:51:08,420 --> 00:51:13,860
your you are yourself the way you're speaking there that when I do an event I like to do a walk

466
00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:20,660
a walkabout at the start the way the guys see on tv let them see what's what's around and after that

467
00:51:21,380 --> 00:51:29,140
the guests are the kings and queens it's up to the experience is for them they're not they're not

468
00:51:29,140 --> 00:51:37,220
here to watch somebody else do it I think it's so much more of a buzz for someone if we ask is

469
00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:42,180
empty getting any names or anything or any images after we've told them what's there and then if

470
00:51:42,180 --> 00:51:49,860
somebody says well actually I'm getting the name Lisa and then somebody else you can see the face

471
00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:55,860
when they're thinking oh I was actually getting Lisa and it's such a buzz for them because they

472
00:51:55,860 --> 00:52:00,980
they've then got that experience that they can they can go home to get it they get the

473
00:52:00,980 --> 00:52:08,180
they they they what's the word I'm looking for they're hooked they just they want to do it again

474
00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:15,860
they don't want to sit and watch everybody look how clever I am I'm going to I'm going to show you

475
00:52:15,860 --> 00:52:20,660
this is what to do oh I've just seen someone no no no no no you'll see someone when I tell you

476
00:52:20,660 --> 00:52:25,620
that's what's going to happen yeah it's not like that it's an investigation exactly and they get

477
00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:31,620
them they get the bug when they're like like you and stuff like that it's it's sort of it's enticing

478
00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:39,060
people to you know yeah come on and come on investigation but like you know don't make this

479
00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:44,580
your only one you know do a few of them sort of compare what they get and of course of course I

480
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:53,060
mean the ones that that come on in my investigation I'm lucky because they're fantastic people they

481
00:52:53,060 --> 00:53:02,180
they tend to to go in quite a lot of the state with me and there's no bad there's no destructive

482
00:53:02,180 --> 00:53:07,940
guests there's no anything because they know when they get there it's it's their night I'm there

483
00:53:07,940 --> 00:53:17,220
and the team are there to to help them get an experience we're not we're there just to to give

484
00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:24,180
them our experience give them our knowledge but let them tap into that knowledge and get their

485
00:53:24,180 --> 00:53:32,420
experience and that to me it's it's what it should be about it's it's it's you I would be

486
00:53:32,420 --> 00:53:37,780
bored watching somebody else do stuff because I would be thinking I don't actually give a shit

487
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:44,180
whether your palm moves or not I actually that night we're talking about I actually could have

488
00:53:44,180 --> 00:53:49,540
went home early because it was it was that bad now you're you're going to know where I'm talking

489
00:53:49,540 --> 00:53:56,900
about when I say this the naughty boys corridor yes yes right yes they were telling us about the

490
00:53:56,900 --> 00:54:04,660
one little boy that had been locked in one of the rooms by the polish and he'd been locked in there

491
00:54:04,660 --> 00:54:13,140
too long and he died okay right I think you've heard our story yes right so our little group

492
00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:20,420
were up there burning mind this guy had a manifest with everybody's name vocation everything on it

493
00:54:20,420 --> 00:54:28,100
apart from ours so he didn't know anything about us right yeah he was like this little door here

494
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:32,260
this little room is the one where the where the boy was locked in and he died he was locked in

495
00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:36,820
here too long we're looking for someone if they want to go in here on their own and be locked in

496
00:54:36,820 --> 00:54:45,540
this room everybody just stood there and I went I'll go yeah let me act he was like anybody

497
00:54:45,540 --> 00:54:53,460
anybody and I'm like I'll go anybody anyone at all anyone oh right okay then you go right you're

498
00:54:53,460 --> 00:55:00,340
joking yeah so then I goes in he says I'm gonna lock it as you crack on lock the door turn the light

499
00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:10,100
I don't give a shit you know I mean I'm on after one heart he closed the door 10 minutes later I'm

500
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:13,860
sitting there and I'm listening to him outside the door and I'm thinking you know they're not

501
00:55:13,860 --> 00:55:18,740
even asking for anything to happen to me you know I mean I'm waiting on the you know go into that

502
00:55:18,740 --> 00:55:24,820
room and whack him over the head with something I'm sitting there yeah yeah yeah touch him in a

503
00:55:24,820 --> 00:55:34,180
particular place yeah yeah and it's like you know nothing nothing at all so then I sort of

504
00:55:34,180 --> 00:55:38,580
knocked the door and he opened it and I was like will it come out now yeah okay hello

505
00:55:40,580 --> 00:55:46,100
I comes back out and we're standing again in the circle in this corridor and he said I don't know

506
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:51,380
you probably know this one as well he says the door at the very bottom sometimes and there's no

507
00:55:51,380 --> 00:55:59,620
wind or draft tends to bang yeah yeah he says what I want to do is I want to I want someone to go

508
00:55:59,620 --> 00:56:06,420
down there and I want them to sit on the floor against the door but it's shut he says and then

509
00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:10,820
if we try and get the door to bang the person that's sitting will feel it going like that and

510
00:56:10,820 --> 00:56:20,180
you'll know there's nobody there anyone want to go I'm like I'll go anyone honestly same again

511
00:56:20,180 --> 00:56:25,860
yeah you can say to me right far enough you go down then I went down the bottom of the corridor

512
00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:32,580
sat down it didn't even ask for the door to move like hell it's the point because he couldn't he

513
00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:40,580
couldn't read me he read the other one I was just about to say that yeah I was just gonna say that

514
00:56:40,580 --> 00:56:45,780
and he's writing something that's jumpy yeah he did a new ouija board you know in the downstairs

515
00:56:45,780 --> 00:56:54,500
kitchen yes he was trying to call that the morgue all right and he was like well do an ouija board

516
00:56:54,500 --> 00:57:01,620
in here because it was the morgue right fair enough just just crack on and do it yeah but the

517
00:57:01,620 --> 00:57:09,860
thing is it's like you know he was he was saying right I'm getting it through here uh about someone

518
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:16,260
who has a military background and one of the guys was like yeah I'm in the army and I was like but

519
00:57:16,260 --> 00:57:20,740
you but the details that you have that you're reading out about people you know that there's

520
00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:27,540
someone in the army you know I mean so were they asking sorry button Robin but were they asking

521
00:57:27,540 --> 00:57:34,900
people for the details I don't know what they were asking for because I didn't we didn't do it

522
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:40,820
in time I don't honestly know I'm not gonna say yes no I'm not gonna accuse anybody all

523
00:57:41,540 --> 00:57:49,940
all I can say from my point of view is that they seem to have a lot of infer it could be complete

524
00:57:49,940 --> 00:58:00,020
coincidence they yeah they are even my mother-in-law says it was the right farce it was that they

525
00:58:00,020 --> 00:58:06,980
they seem to have no matter what they said someone in the group was like yeah yeah that's me

526
00:58:07,780 --> 00:58:14,340
you know me and it's like you know really what you're looking for as well and and you're probably

527
00:58:14,340 --> 00:58:20,260
the same as me in that you're actually looking for someone that or or nobody to answer a certain

528
00:58:20,260 --> 00:58:25,060
question and you think right well okay well maybe maybe I'm wrong or I'm not maybe I'm not picking

529
00:58:25,060 --> 00:58:30,180
up right but that's definitely coming through anyway and you know because you're going to have

530
00:58:30,180 --> 00:58:40,420
positives you know I mean of course and to me if I was a guest at a ghost hunt I wouldn't want

531
00:58:40,420 --> 00:58:44,500
somebody's granny or something I would want the people linked with this building coming through

532
00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:50,340
yeah that's why you're there you're there to investigate the building yeah because everybody

533
00:58:50,340 --> 00:58:56,340
else apart from one person who's in the army don't give a shit they want to know who's who's

534
00:58:56,340 --> 00:59:01,700
connected with that building who are we investigating tonight what's what's the back stories what's the

535
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:08,580
nothing we want to know we want to know what to expect we came away that night thinking that

536
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:15,060
it was a fantastic building it was definitely haunted because of what we all and we all

537
00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:22,420
experienced things in there three of us it was definitely somewhere that we wanted to go back

538
00:59:22,420 --> 00:59:31,620
to again at some point but we've just paid 69.99 per head yeah it's an expensive place

539
00:59:31,620 --> 00:59:37,460
for a complete and utter basically shit show exactly that's that's that's a shame and I um

540
00:59:38,180 --> 00:59:42,980
read that one that's exactly it it felt like they were all regulars with the with the team

541
00:59:42,980 --> 00:59:51,460
right so they knew them at the back of their hand it's it's see I can see both sides a tricky one

542
00:59:52,180 --> 01:00:02,420
for a medium because if if you're very good you've done homework because no matter what somebody

543
01:00:02,420 --> 01:00:09,700
tells you you can go and find it of course you can um it's we're in an electronic world now but

544
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:14,820
and if you're not good if you don't run enough through your shape it's

545
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:22,500
yeah I agree it's a difficult one for actually bringing stuff through but at the

546
01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:31,060
for it for a building for an investigation they're not there for a

547
01:00:32,580 --> 01:00:37,700
a stage show they're there for the spirits connected to that building because if you're

548
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:42,980
just going to bring through Charlie was in the army I think you were a nurse and I think you

549
01:00:42,980 --> 01:00:48,900
were somebody was somebody a brickie and you might as well just stand in the living room

550
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:55,460
because what's the point to go to these fantastic locations when you're not connecting with the

551
01:00:55,460 --> 01:01:02,500
ghosts that are at the locations it just seems it seems a bit counterproductive and it does I'll be

552
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:10,820
honest it does seem very arranged for the sounds of it it does seem I'm obviously I don't know who

553
01:01:10,820 --> 01:01:17,780
the group are and I'll probably get attacked by them now but you won't you won't get attacked by

554
01:01:17,780 --> 01:01:23,060
them I'll not mention them I know I'm joking actually I actually don't care I'm not the kind

555
01:01:23,060 --> 01:01:29,780
of person that cares but I tell you what honestly you know what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna bring this

556
01:01:29,780 --> 01:01:34,740
down in shortly I mean obviously definitely get you back on the game when AJ's on but definitely

557
01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:39,940
honestly when you're ever you're down this way anywhere at all doing them hit me up and let me

558
01:01:39,940 --> 01:01:45,700
know I'll we'll come along definitely fantastic I'll let you I'll give you a message I'll let you

559
01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:52,580
know and the dates that I'm coming down and we'll get something organized we'll we'll go anywhere

560
01:01:52,580 --> 01:01:59,940
like that you know when it's with reputable people like yourself yeah I mean that that's it just

561
01:02:00,660 --> 01:02:07,220
it was like I say it was really really early in in our journey we hadn't done many investigations

562
01:02:07,220 --> 01:02:12,660
at all and it was like when the opportunity came up it was like well let's go and see what these

563
01:02:12,660 --> 01:02:19,860
what we call at time professionals or let's see what what their investigating techniques are and

564
01:02:19,860 --> 01:02:27,940
yeah and it was like you sort of nearly came away from a thing and if this is what it's about what

565
01:02:27,940 --> 01:02:35,940
the hell am I even doing in this yeah I was going to say it's I think unfortunately there's so many

566
01:02:35,940 --> 01:02:44,980
companies now um that it's kind of diluted and it's potluck a lot of the time unless you know

567
01:02:44,980 --> 01:02:50,260
unless you've been they've been recommended by somebody it's kind of potluck what you're

568
01:02:50,260 --> 01:02:55,460
what you're grabbing and because it's so easy to set a website up or a facebook page up or

569
01:02:58,340 --> 01:03:04,900
and buy a few gadgets and it's and unfortunately I think people that go to

570
01:03:06,340 --> 01:03:14,100
a company that aren't as maybe experienced and then what can happen is it puts the people off

571
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:19,060
because they think if that's what this is about I'll watch it and tell you because that was boring

572
01:03:19,620 --> 01:03:26,020
um and I didn't pay all that money to watch somebody else do stuff I didn't pay that money

573
01:03:27,060 --> 01:03:35,460
yeah to be she'd to be like some cattle yeah just enough for the money we think that's what

574
01:03:35,460 --> 01:03:44,420
we thought yeah yeah without without a doubt um and it's one of the reasons I tend to try and

575
01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:54,180
stay away from the more um inverted commas popular um rinsed ones places because of the fact that um

576
01:03:54,900 --> 01:04:05,140
they're the the price goes through the roof and one of my part of my ethos is I I want to give

577
01:04:05,140 --> 01:04:14,820
people investigations but they don't need to get a mortgage to get a bloody ticket um I like to keep

578
01:04:14,820 --> 01:04:22,820
my tickets if possible I like to keep the tickets about 29.99 um but every now and then I'll like

579
01:04:22,820 --> 01:04:30,500
I've got one coming up in August that's 39.99 but it's I don't like to go into it to make loads of

580
01:04:30,500 --> 01:04:39,700
money it's it's not what I do it for I do it because I love I love the people I love meeting

581
01:04:39,700 --> 01:04:43,620
meeting the people that that go to these investigations I love chatting to them

582
01:04:43,620 --> 01:04:49,460
hearing the experiences and um what their thoughts of different things are

583
01:04:50,340 --> 01:04:56,660
and that's that's what I get out of it and I think as you say I think a lot of

584
01:04:56,660 --> 01:05:02,580
other companies because I see the prices myself and I think how the hell can people afford that

585
01:05:03,380 --> 01:05:06,660
for people going to a ghost hunt you're talking 200 noy pounds sometimes

586
01:05:07,300 --> 01:05:13,860
and I'm thinking if you if you're a regular ghost hunter how the hell can you justify having to pay

587
01:05:13,860 --> 01:05:22,740
that and and I think I think it needs reset a little bit the full the full ghost hunting

588
01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:29,460
industry get back to basics get back to just doing doing it for the reason we do it do it because we

589
01:05:30,020 --> 01:05:38,260
we watched it on tv as a kid or you watched cartoons the kid that entailed it and you're there

590
01:05:39,380 --> 01:05:45,380
just for the experience you're there hoping to get scared you're there hoping to hear a noise feel

591
01:05:45,380 --> 01:05:52,980
a touch um it's to me that's what gets you you hooked one little touch could seem like nothing's

592
01:05:52,980 --> 01:05:58,340
standing about all night but it's that little touch because you know well hold on a minute this team

593
01:05:59,060 --> 01:06:03,460
haven't bullshitted they've not went into every single room and they've been getting thrown off

594
01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:08,980
walls and bricks have been thrown and they've actually stood there they've called out they've

595
01:06:08,980 --> 01:06:12,740
called out they've called out they've tried a board the board's not moved they've tried

596
01:06:12,740 --> 01:06:19,700
table tipping and everybody gets nights like that but what happens is when they do get something

597
01:06:19,700 --> 01:06:26,420
happening they're buzzing because they know they're leaving that night with 100 or 99 percent

598
01:06:26,420 --> 01:06:34,820
certainty it's not been manufactured by somebody wanting to make a name for themselves and I'm a

599
01:06:34,820 --> 01:06:40,500
big believer and I think we need to go back to that we need to go back to to looking for the small

600
01:06:40,500 --> 01:06:48,260
things not looking to see what happens the kind of things you see on tv because what people don't

601
01:06:48,260 --> 01:06:56,900
realize is a ghost hunting show if there's adverts on that channel it's 45 minutes

602
01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:03,220
take away the adverts you've got 45 minutes you've got the build up to the venue where they're

603
01:07:03,220 --> 01:07:08,260
talking to the historian the medium blah blah blah blah you've got so there's very little for

604
01:07:08,260 --> 01:07:15,940
the actual investigation but that investigation has been filmed overnight so what's what's happening

605
01:07:15,940 --> 01:07:22,900
is the the exciting bits are getting picked out so when you when you watch it on tv it seems as if

606
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:28,580
oh look at they get they get everything happens but what they don't see is that they're standing

607
01:07:28,580 --> 01:07:33,460
about a lot of the time waiting for something to happen but obviously that's that's not going to

608
01:07:33,460 --> 01:07:40,900
make tv because people will be bored and so I think it's just people understanding that and

609
01:07:41,540 --> 01:07:48,580
and I think people once they do understand it and they start to really go regular they start to see

610
01:07:48,580 --> 01:07:55,620
it as what it is an investigation it's it's not so much a scare factor it's investigation it's that

611
01:07:55,620 --> 01:08:00,100
it's that buzz that you get and you don't get me wrong you do want a fright you do want to be scared

612
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:07,060
but you want to be scared knowing that bloody hell what was that and wake up in the morning and think

613
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:13,860
I still have no idea what that was I want that to happen again and we need to get back to that we

614
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:20,260
really do we need to forget you know what it's like as well though as you know I'm I agree with

615
01:08:20,260 --> 01:08:26,740
what you said 100% about the the money situation you know you don't want to be paying 50, 60, 70

616
01:08:26,740 --> 01:08:34,900
70 pound a head when you're going and doing these but the thing is if if you do pay that and and you

617
01:08:34,900 --> 01:08:41,300
get a shitload of activity yeah you'll you'll you'll come out of that thinking right well it was

618
01:08:41,300 --> 01:08:46,660
expensive but it was worth it I've just justified that by what I've actually got but then if you

619
01:08:46,660 --> 01:08:52,500
went there and paid 70 80 pound a head and it was a complete farce like we were on you just think

620
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:58,660
I can do it myself you feel cheated yeah you feel cheated and that's the problem because it's a

621
01:08:58,660 --> 01:09:05,460
a catch 22 and that's why I don't blame the big companies for when it's a big venue because

622
01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:15,300
these venues charge a lot of money um they're like one two three thousand pounds higher fee

623
01:09:15,300 --> 01:09:22,100
and so they're trying to the companies then need to try and get that back and it's it's a really

624
01:09:22,900 --> 01:09:30,100
fine juggling act to try and make that work and that's why I tend to to look for hidden gems

625
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:36,740
that haven't been discovered they've not been over investigated people are paying what I'm

626
01:09:37,620 --> 01:09:44,020
roughly what I'm paying to to hire the venue which I agree with the the the owners and

627
01:09:44,020 --> 01:09:49,220
and everybody's having we're not having every single night exciting but we're all having a good

628
01:09:49,220 --> 01:09:56,260
time it's whether it's because I've laughed my socks off or I was scared stiff or it's it's a

629
01:09:56,260 --> 01:10:01,140
different experience every time we just don't know what's going to happen what to expect and that's

630
01:10:01,140 --> 01:10:07,540
what it should be it really it really really should absolutely well Chris I want to thank you

631
01:10:07,540 --> 01:10:13,700
very much for coming on I it's been my pleasure I've really enjoyed chatting very once before and

632
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:21,780
it was that there was something come up but like I say even through the technical difficulties

633
01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:27,460
that we had this time we've still managed to pull the show off so yes I've really enjoyed it

634
01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:32,660
yeah and I'll obviously I'll stay in touch with you I'll get you back one again

635
01:10:35,060 --> 01:10:39,460
and like I say when you're whenever you're down this way at all for any kind of a

636
01:10:39,460 --> 01:10:45,860
ghost hunt hit me up as well we'll definitely come down without without a doubt I should I

637
01:10:45,860 --> 01:10:51,220
should do that Robin I'll I'll give you a a wee message either tonight or tomorrow and I'll let

638
01:10:51,220 --> 01:10:58,500
you know the dates that I'm coming down and we'll get something organized and we'll uh we'll do our

639
01:10:58,500 --> 01:11:05,940
best obviously to to come along and perfect sounds up sounds up sounds a plan and I'll definitely

640
01:11:05,940 --> 01:11:11,460
come back on I've really enjoyed it and we'll do it we'll do it with without any glitches

641
01:11:13,620 --> 01:11:15,380
without me holding a phone like that

642
01:11:18,340 --> 01:11:23,700
before you go do you want to shout out any of your uh anything that you have any websites or

643
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:29,060
anything like that you have um I don't I don't really do a website anymore I just I tend to

644
01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:36,180
communicate with people over my Facebook um because it's more it's more personal people um

645
01:11:37,060 --> 01:11:43,220
if they want to ask me something the message me or the post on the wall and and that's where I

646
01:11:43,220 --> 01:11:47,940
that's where I advertise all my ghost hunts that's where I chat to people and have a laugh with people

647
01:11:48,820 --> 01:11:54,980
it tends to be through my through my Facebook and the next ghost hunt I've got coming up in August

648
01:11:54,980 --> 01:12:02,260
that's in um at this moment I'll probably book something before then but it's in Derbyshire and

649
01:12:02,260 --> 01:12:10,420
it's a an old Edwardian school that I've managed to find and it's a really big building and there's

650
01:12:10,420 --> 01:12:19,140
a lot of um sad episodes connected to the building for example the man it was a private school the

651
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:27,380
man that that set it up he passed away and passed the school on his son one day his son left the

652
01:12:27,380 --> 01:12:36,740
building as he did every day and that was in the 19 early I think it was it was the early 1900s I'm

653
01:12:36,740 --> 01:12:42,740
sure but I could be wrong um and he was never seen again nobody knows what happened to him he just

654
01:12:42,740 --> 01:12:49,140
left the building never came back and there's lots of tragic stories like that linked to this building

655
01:12:49,140 --> 01:12:55,140
um and it's it's well known for being haunted amongst the local village so it's one that I'm

656
01:12:55,140 --> 01:13:00,820
really looking forward to and if anybody's interested in that just um come and chat to me on Facebook

657
01:13:01,380 --> 01:13:06,340
and some other lads have said obviously your Facebook's under your own name it is yeah because

658
01:13:06,340 --> 01:13:13,620
that's where I found it anyway yes yes it's under my own name so just friend request I don't know if I can

659
01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:19,940
write it on chat um I think it's just yeah just Chris Fonway it's under yeah so just friend request

660
01:13:19,940 --> 01:13:26,100
I'm going to add you yeah what I'm going to do as well Chris uh either tonight or tomorrow is I'm

661
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:34,020
going to send you the names of a few cases that I've I've found uh around sort of uh Lancashire

662
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:40,180
and there's even one in Lincolnshire and stuff like that oh I'd really appreciate that and then obviously you can

663
01:13:40,180 --> 01:13:44,660
you can sort of maybe I don't know whether you'd be able to put the feelers out for them or not but

664
01:13:46,020 --> 01:13:50,740
without a doubt I'd really appreciate that Robin that'd be fantastic well dude but like I say I will

665
01:13:50,740 --> 01:13:58,260
stay in touch with you anyway yeah please do please do yeah definitely absolutely and uh we will have

666
01:13:58,260 --> 01:14:04,740
you on again uh yeah I'll look forward to it I think we're booked up until probably the end of May so

667
01:14:04,740 --> 01:14:11,220
maybe June if that's all right yeah June's perfect for me yeah no problem at all we'll get it organized

668
01:14:11,940 --> 01:14:17,060
we'll see you again in uh in June but I'll be in touch anyway I'll stay in touch with you

669
01:14:17,700 --> 01:14:23,380
yeah please do fantastic thanks very much Robin thanks Chris take care guys bye bye

670
01:14:23,380 --> 01:14:28,420
well there you go lovely guy lovely guy I've I've been friends with him for quite a bit now on

671
01:14:28,420 --> 01:14:36,020
Facebook and uh yeah he's he's a really good guy so do look him up and do try some of his uh ghost

672
01:14:36,020 --> 01:14:42,420
hunts out you'll not be disappointed definitely not uh just want to shout out global ghost hunt is

673
01:14:42,420 --> 01:14:47,460
starting in May uh we've got the first one in May coming up and then there's one in October

674
01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:53,140
global ghost hunt.com check it out check the website out honestly it's going to be fantastic

675
01:14:54,740 --> 01:15:03,300
but for now from little old lonely me Robin from half iron paranormal I'm talking with the source

676
01:15:03,940 --> 01:15:10,500
it's goodbye and we will see you again tomorrow evening we have heller madison from

677
01:15:10,500 --> 01:15:19,780
kindred spirits and anyway if you're gonna watch just google her she's been on a few different

678
01:15:19,780 --> 01:15:44,340
uh tv programs so she's on tomorrow night it's a special show so we will see you then bye for now