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What is going on everybody? AJ Capasso here, host of Talking With The Source. And guys,
I'm joined by a good friend of mine, guest host right now. Go ahead and introduce yourself, my friend.
Well, I'm the Race Prince from the Race World Podcast and Texas Race Hunters.
There we go. Thank you for everybody joining in. Thank you for having me.
No, no worries, man. Thank you for joining me on such short notice. I truly appreciate it.
And thank you everyone for watching and people who have shared it out, especially you, Ann.
Thank you. And who we're about to bring on. We have an awesome guest. I want you to actually introduce him,
my friend, because he's one of your great friends. You guys live close to each other.
So go ahead and introduce our great guest for tonight.
Well, the guest tonight is Bert from, ah man, I don't messed it up.
No, don't worry about it.
From Paranormal Lockdown. Is that right?
Yeah, it's RGV Paranormal Lockdown.
RGV, oh my gosh, man. Don't worry, just screw it all up, Bert.
And you guys are friends. This is, ah man, friendship countertube right now.
That's what friends do, man. That's what friends do. RGV Paranormal Lockdown.
Yeah.
Mr. Bert, the one and only.
The one and only, baby. Let's bring him in.
What's going on, guys?
What is up?
Sorry, Bert.
Dude.
Come on, man. It's all good. It's all good.
It's all good, though.
It's all right. It's all good.
How's it going, everyone? Thank you all so much for tuning in. Appreciate it.
Yeah, I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you guys for all sharing it out, like I said.
So, Bert, tell me, man, like, how's everything been going? Pretty good?
Yeah, man. Everything's been going pretty good, dude. You know, just, you know, I took a little break, you know, just after the, you know, investigations, you know, just with work, kids, family, you know, same old personal stuff, man.
Just trying to get back out there, you know.
Awesome. Awesome. Well, I know, Ian probably knows this question, but I don't. So tell me, how did you get into this?
How did you get into this work over, I know you said the pandemic, you got into all this?
Well, I've been investigating the paranormal ever since 2015. You know, that's when I, you know, started joining other investigations, you know, with the paranormal group here in the Valley and McAllen.
And I've been into the paranormal for my whole life, dude. I mean, I grew up with that stuff, you know, watching shows on TV. I'm like, you know, this is something I want to do, you know.
So, 2020 during the pandemic, that's when I started RTVParanormal Lockdown, and that's when I started going on investigating these places.
Awesome, man. That's awesome. Yeah, I see. I started a little, I started about like a year maybe before you or like a half a year before you.
So that's so awesome, man. I mean, it took me a little bit to really like start my own thing.
But once you get into it and you get your first piece of evidence or first anything, it's like, isn't it addicting?
You get hooked, bro. You get hooked. You're like, oh, I want to buy this, I want to buy that, I want to go over here, go over there, dude.
It's, it's, and it doesn't stop, man. It's awesome. I love it.
How about for you, Ed? For me, I met Bird last year, I think it was, wasn't it last year? Yeah.
At the Paranormal Fest in San Antonio. I was actually walking, I was walking around doing, interviewing all the people that were there.
And I think I got to Bird when it was already, what, dark? Yeah, it was close to dark, yeah. Yeah.
And then, so I met him from there and then we just, I think you were already friends on Facebook.
We were, yeah, we were. It's just that we just really never really connected, really.
But, you know, I saw, hey, this guy had like Paranormal. Boom, my friend, my friend.
And then, so we just talked, man, and just, you know, and just talked tomorrow on Facebook and everything else.
And then, he's a great guy, man. He's been doing a lot of stuff, man.
Him and his wife are cool, man. We were talking, what happened the last time we were talking? Something happened.
I mean, dude, we were just talking about different stuff, man, you know, but like the... We were drinking, right?
Oh, yeah. Wait, we were? We were? Oh, there we go.
I'm representing the background. Unfortunately, I got water today, but it's all good. Don't get me started, Bird, man. I'm gonna pull out that bottle right there.
There we go. You're gonna shut down that podcast. Dude, that's the hard stuff. You drink the hard stuff, though.
I got you, man. I get on these podcasts, man. I got you. Anthony's don't mess around. I could contest, man. I'm gonna answer you myself, so I get it.
Yeah, but we met back then, and then, I mean, like I said, just hit it off, and then, you know, we just chatted back and forth.
And I think I had you on my podcast also. Yes, we did. With Josh, and then another time just on.
But it's been awesome, and he's done it from the valley, man. We need to go down there.
And so he's just been doing some great things, man. And I've seen him. He's one of the guys, man, that goes through a hard thing in having a group, being a founder, you know, of people leaving, whatever happens, you know, drama, whatever that.
But, you know, he's picked himself back up and started hitting it again. And now he's one of the new members of the P3 family.
Yes, congrats. That's awesome, man. And so now he's got you. He's along with a lot of awesome people, man. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Community we have is awesome. I mean, it's hard to find that right now in the paranormal community because there's so many people are competitive and, you know, jealous of others and they just don't they bring others down.
But I tell you what, the group that we have is such great people. I mean, just meeting all you guys in general. I mean, everyone's cool. Everyone's down there. This, you know, we look at it more as adults like we can help each other, each other's research.
You know what I'm saying? We can learn from each other whether how experienced one person may be. Even if they're beginners, they can help. You know what I mean? I mean, having people on my podcast who just started literally have gave me ideas for my research.
So I find it great, man. I think the paranormal community we have is awesome and I can't wait to see how it grows even more and get more amazing people like you guys, man, because it's really cool.
Exactly. Yeah, no, I agree with that, dude. Yeah, of course. I mean, it's always best to, you know, to learn more about certain things that you're not really familiar with, you know, and it's knowledge.
To me, knowledge is something that nobody can ever take away from you. It's something that you're always going to have with you all the time. So I agree with that too, man. Yeah, you live and you learn, man. Every single day you learn something new.
Absolutely. Tell me, what was your what was one of your most most or what's one of your scariest things that's ever happened to you, either on investigation or just in the start of your whole career with this?
Dude, when I went to a location here in the valley, it's in San Juan, Texas at the San Juan Hotel, man, like they're in the dark, you know, you can't see what's going on around you. It's a whole different ballgame, man. There's rooms all over the place.
It's just dark everywhere and like you can only shine your lights so much, right? Yeah, you're trying one area and everything else is dark. You're like, okay, I feel something watching over here. I feel like, dude, you feel like you're being watched in that place, man.
And they look at my game just to just talking about it. Like, dude, like that place just like it gave me the creeps, especially going into that basement, man. The basement they have there is pretty weird, pretty intense, dude.
But I think that was my most, you know, you know, a moment in the investigations that really concerned me. I was like, holy crap, like what if I'm gonna get mugged or what if something really happens and I'm the only one that's here, you know, like it was pretty weird, man. I mean, there's homeless people that live there.
No, yeah, I mean, I can totally feel you on that because you could be in the dark, man, and someone, you know, a crazy homeless person comes out on drugs or something stabs you in the back or hit you with a needle or something.
I mean, as stupid as that may sound to some people, it has happened, you know, so I totally totally understand what you mean. And, you know, just adding that dark element, man, because I'm afraid of the dark. I don't even know why I'm a paranormal investigator.
I hate the dark, to be honest. But I tell you what, man, just being in that element, like it totally makes everything more intense. Like your your sense gets shut off and I feel like all the other senses kick on and it's just like ramped up. I mean, how do you feel about it?
Yeah, you wouldn't make it with us. They say we don't use flashlights. Oh, no, I don't either. But I'm just saying I hate the dark in general, you know, but I love doing it. Don't get me wrong. It's in a general. Yeah. But yeah, no, I just go for a K man night vision. I love it.
There you go. There you go. Yeah, I love the dark too. I mean, I can see real good in the dark and my things like I always say, you know, my the forest, you know, going out to those kind of places, you know, the native lands and like that. And so it's pitch dark.
We got we got we carry flashlight, but only if we need them. Yeah, only if you need them. Yeah.
Unless or I'll take them away from the guy from around there. Yeah, it's happened. I've taken away from him before. Give me that flashlight. No, no. Give me the flashlight.
No, it's funny. The only real reason why I carry it on me is in case of any debris that's in the area like if there's like a hospital, something like that, you want to hit something, get jabbed in the leg with some rusty thing, you know, so that's the only time I would really care to use it or if I'm like trying to like look at my camera to replace something so I can actually see the buttons.
But other than that, I would, you know, it would just be to review evidence quick if something really crazy happened. But other than that, yeah, I'm like you guys, I'll go completely pitch dark. But don't get me wrong, because I'm scared of the dark. It heightens everything for me. So, you know, it's like, oh, shit should not be here right now. But I love it.
The adrenaline rush is something you can't you can't get back. It is, dude. That's the best. That's I think that's the best part. In my opinion, you know, the adrenaline rush that you were saying, man, like that's just it's fun. It's just super addicting.
I don't know why I do. I can't explain it, dude, but it's it's fun. I want to ask you guys now. Do you think when you guys are like in the dark? Hey, what's up, right? How are you? Thank you for joining us. I want to ask you guys when you guys are in the dark, you feel that you can feel the energy of the place or entities more because of the sense being shut off where you're not having that scene because I feel like for me, like I said earlier, I feel like the senses get kind of heightened when I take one sense away like that, especially if you do like, you know,
like the what's that method with the red light in your eyes?
And you know, I can feel experiment or whatever. I think that's the name of the Danfield experiment. When you shut one of those senses off, and I just feel like being in the dark like it raises the thing where I could feel more like with my body as a tool than if the light is on. I mean, I could do the same with the light on. But do you guys have any like, like, you know, things like that? Or am I just crazy? No, no, I don't think you're crazy at all, man. I mean, it's the it's just really intense, dude, especially when you're just there and you're sitting in the dark, man. And what's up, Steve?
But yeah, dude, like you get that, you know, that urge that you feel like there's something
around you, you know, it's just something that's really closing in on you. Me personally,
I don't know about you guys, but every time when I do that, I'm just sitting there and I'm just in
the dark and just waiting for something to happen, right? Like you feel a shortness of breath or you
feel the chills rolling up your spine. Like you feel like something is getting close to you.
Me personally, if it's an actual entity of a spirit or if the actual location itself,
I can't really tell that, you know, I still learn as I go, you know, I mean, to me, it's just like
the, you know, just that time and moment, you know, what you're trying to do and your body's
just reacting to whatever is just around and surrounding you basically, man. That's just,
that's just my opinion, dude. I mean, do I know if it's an entity or house or the location? I really
can't tell, man. No, no, of course, of course. I didn't know if you felt more, did you feel like
in the dark or, you know, when you don't have that vision aspect to you or did you feel it more like
or is it the same for you when you have that vision or, you know, nah, I didn't know if it was
different for you. I've never really tried the one with the goggles on. What was it? What did you call
it again? It's a Diannfield experiment, but I was just talking about being in the dark, not having the eyesight.
Yeah. Yeah, it's in the dark, dude, for real. Yeah, it's only in the dark when you have the light on
or when you're reviewing, you know, certain things as well. Yeah, then the light, it's good. Like,
you're okay. But in the dark, nah, it's a whole different ballgame with that one. Yeah, it totally
takes a new element on for sure. How about you, Andy? That's the question I asked. Yeah. You could
feel it a little bit more when you're in the pitch dark like that, like, or do you feel that it's
the same for you? It just depends what location I'm at. Yeah. You know, because that's, that's
just like the activity that's there, just depending what's there, you know, being outside for me, it's
more, it does feel to me like I do feel like when it gets, because it's already pitch dark. And then
when stuff starts to happen in certain areas, it just gets even darker. Yeah. Like you can tell
between the two darknesses. And then you can feel it. So, and I did, I mean, that was funny a while
ago, because we're talking about flashlights, like my guys, they got flashlights about that big.
Yeah. And then, and for me, the one that doesn't use flashlights, I got one about that big.
I got them down here. I just didn't want to take them out. But so there's a big, there's a big
difference. And it's funny because I did pull it out one time. I got, I got the crap scared out of
me and it was in that freaking forest. And I let the guys go up in front of me. I said, I'm going
to wait just a little bit. And then two minutes, they were gone. I didn't even see them no more.
Not even two minutes. Just like within a minute, they were just disappeared. And then all of a
sudden that's just her realizing it's like, man, dude, what did you do? You're in this freaking
forest. You know what this place is like. And now you let you stay by yourself. You're in a freaking
movie now. You know, and I did feel someone I was walking, I could just, cause it was so dark,
you know, uh, I felt like just something was just all around me. And then I felt like somebody just
like grazed the top of my hair, you know, just like, like that. And it's like, man, dude, I mean,
I freaking wanted to freeze. And I'm always priding myself on that. You know, if you were
here and hear me ask my guys, I don't get scared. But that time I, I mean, I, and then I'm alone
in this giant forest and these guys are gone. You know,
having the forest aspect too, like, you know, being alone, it's like, what about animals?
You know what I mean? That would, I would be more terrified. I'm more terrified going into locations
when it comes to like homeless people, people like that, or, uh, you know, being outside and having
to deal with the outside of, you know, animals, all that stuff like that, that scares me more than
any spirit will ever scare me. But I mean, that had to be a scary experience then, cause I'd be
freaking out by myself in that forest and fish dark, not knowing, you know,
the physical aspect of it. I would be more scared of it.
The physical aspect of it, we really don't, that really doesn't really too bother us too much
cause we all carry. So if something comes running out or something comes in, sorry, man, you know,
stay back. You got about two seconds, you know what I mean? Just to turn around and run or
you or whatever you're going to do. But, um, so that part doesn't, it doesn't bother us.
And even in there, that didn't bother me, but it's like my mother members said one night, man,
uh, he says, you have been for bullets. Don't, don't, don't kill ghosts. So, right. So that's,
that, that I spent is taking care of, but man, yeah, that was a tough, I really had to bite down,
man, on that. Cause I didn't know if I wanted to go back to the vehicle, but then I said, no,
if I go back and I'm going to leave them in here and that's not good and leaving my team
and then, uh, um, so I got my cat, I got that big flashlight and I got my camera and, um,
I had it, I had it like this, you know, I had the camera right here, actually this one right here.
I had it, I had it like that. And then my, my, uh, my big flashlight just like this and I was just
walking because man, dude, I could feel it. I just could get it more intense and more intense
that I felt like something even got closer to me. And it was actually like,
like something was walking behind me. And, and then, uh, and then my thoughts came, I don't know
if it is something like a, you know, a mountain lion or a cougar, whatever it is, you know, I mean,
it, that did cross my mind, but man, I was, I mean, I was tensed up and I turned around,
I was watching walking backwards because I felt like something was behind me, behind me, behind me.
And, and so I just turned around and I had my camera, I just started videotaping. I said,
well, if something happens to me, at least hopefully it'll be on video, you know, just be
hearing me go, right. Yeah. Whatever got me like in the movie, you know? Yeah. But dude, I was, man,
I was, that was a rough, that was a rough little time until I just kept walking and walking. And
finally they're walking back and you know, what was craziest that, um, my co-founder, my son,
he had the same experience in there because he came up to me and he was saying, amen,
something grandma, something touched the top of my head like this. And I, and what's funny is he
told me that's his dude, man, that happened to me back there. So we both had the same experience,
but on, on two different sides. But yeah, that was, that was tough, man. You know, that's intense.
Being in the dark that like that, man, that was, that was the first time that I pulled it out.
I don't blame you. Oh man. I probably would have had it out already. That's probably why I don't
have a gun, man. To be honest. No, no, but have a flashlight on.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. One of our viewers, Charles Dickinson says,
hi, in my humble opinion, it can also depend on who you're with. If you go with leavers,
things seem to happen. If you go with skeptics, it all seems a bit silly power of suggestion or
group hysteria. And you know, I, I do believe that obviously, yeah. I mean, I've had see it's weird
because that does happen. Also sometimes for me, like I've had it happen where if I went with people
who are all skeptic, I'm the only believer. Things seem not as much as if I'm with somebody who's
believing, but also I've had it happen where I've been with all skeptics and brought them out and
they've had a crazy experience and witnessed everything that I witnessed. So I mean, what do
you guys think about that? Do you guys think that obviously that can play a factor in if you're,
you know, not really being conscious and aware of what you're investigating and what you're doing?
Yeah. Yeah. In my, in my personal opinion, dude, I mean, I've always wanted to actually do an
investigation with the skeptic, you know, just to get their opinion on it too. And, you know,
just see what they say about it, you know, because there's a lot of people out there that's not real.
It's not real. What not? I'm like, man, like come out here with me one night, come out with me.
Yeah, I'll prove you wrong. Just what I mean. I asked people to come out. I'm like, just come out
with me. You know what I'm saying? Just come out with me, give it a chance, just have an open mind.
You know, I mean, if you think it's all hot locks or all crap, just let me know. No big deal. I mean,
only, like I said, I was a huge skeptic man before I had my near death experience. And when I had my
near death experience, like I was, I was a big believer in Jesus. I gave my life to Christ when
I was 16, but I stepped away from the church and I stepped away from all the stuff that I, you know,
the signs, everything that I was experiencing, like spiritual wise, I stepped it all away. And
I seen some stuff that I really should never have stepped away from that most people wouldn't
seen my aunt come back to life after literally being on life support in three days, just from
zero brain activity to 100% walking out of the hospital. I mean, all from a prayer and I, you
know, it's just a huge, long story, but I mean, the things that I saw, I should never walked away,
but I tell you what, it's like when I came, when I had my near death experience right before that,
I was like totally not a believer in God anymore. I was not a believer in paranormal. And you
couldn't tell me nothing. I mean, we had a Ouija board experience and I mocked the spirit. And I
tell you what that backfired on me for many years, put me in a very, I had attachment for many years
that I had to get rid of. And luckily I did, but it was scary, man. And I tell you what, after the
near death experience, now I just try to tell all the skeptics like, you know, just give it a chance,
call with me. We'll see what we can get you. We can catch something great. If not, no deal, you
know, it's up to, up to when it's your time to experience it. True, man. True. This guy pulling
out the Ouija board. Put it away, man. Put it away. No, it wasn't me. It wasn't me, but hey,
I appreciate that. It wasn't me. It was actually friends. We were young. We were like 15 years old
at the time. And I was over a friend's house and she had like 14 people over and they were doing a
Ouija session and the thing was moving and I had happened to walk in the room and I'm like, this is
all bull crap. So I told my friend to get on the board and I'm like, listen, when it starts to move,
I want us to pick our fingers off the planchette. Like, like just that much, just to see if it moves
while we have our energy over it. Well, let me tell you something good. It, when I asked who killed
this supposedly boy in a wheelchair, it said it was, that was in the house. It said that his mom,
it's spelled out mom that killed him. And dude, it went, the minute it started moving, we lifted
our hands off. Just me and him, there's 14 people around the board watching. This thing moved on its
own. Not only that our hands got drained, what it felt like of all its energy, because only our
hands were ice cold over the board. Everything else was completely warm. And when I mean ice cold,
dude, I mean like if I stuck my hand in freezer for like five minutes and didn't take them out
and only my hands and his hands were like that, it was the weirdest situation I ever been in. But
the attachment that I got, man, started making me like have such mental health issues where
I would have mental breakdowns and start flipping out on my grandparents, like saying things to them
I would never say, screaming at them. It changed me as a person for a long time and it scared the
crap out of me. Luckily, I got rid of the attachment, but people don't realize how serious it is and I
didn't even realize, you know. So have you had any attachments? Have you had anything crazy like that
happen to you? Me personally, no, dude, never. How about you, Ant? I had four. Four? Yeah, but they're
already gone. Well, I'm, yeah, no, I mean, but tell me what was, which one was the worst or were they
all the same? Actually, they didn't bother me. No? They just traveled with me. Oh, they were just
getting to know. But it bothered other people. Like if I got around someone who's clairvoyant or
psychic or medium, anything like that, they can see. Yeah, they would always try to, you know,
take it off of me, whatever, and they'll just get their butt kicked. Yeah. No, I actually had a spirit
like that, so I know what you mean. I had a spirit that way. It was a female spirit and
she was, every time I had a girlfriend man over the house, like just something about it, like my
ex-girlfriend who actually stayed with me got to the point where I woke up one night and she was
rocking back and forth Indian style and her head was up in the sky like this and she was just
speaking in a different language. Like I don't even know what she was saying. And I literally
was so freaked out because it was like, it was like the exorcist, dude. Like I'd never seen
something like this till this day. And after this, I laid her down and finally got her up,
like woke her up. She had no recollection of anything that was going on. I literally got her
out of the house the next day. I had to make her leave because I was that scared. Like I've never,
when I mean, I woke up to my door open, which was locked when I went to sleep. She was already asleep
and my TV was on. Now it was pitch dark in there and door open TV off her right next to my head,
where my pillow is Indian style, just going like this and just speaking. And I'm like,
I woke up to that man. Let me tell you, that's a freak. Oh, it was cool as hell now thinking
about it. Let me tell you, it's scary as shit when you're the only one in the room.
Cause you'd think, what if she, what if she was possessed and grabbed the knife and stabbed me?
You know what I mean? Or just something like I was out, you know? So, but it was, yeah, man,
I've never had it since and I've never had, well, I don't live in that house anymore, you know,
thank the Lord. But it was a very crazy moment, man. But yeah, that's a lot of stuff like that.
And then seeing a full body apparition of my whole family in that house, like solidly in the house,
right in front of my whole family in the dining room, changed my whole aspect on this. And I,
that's what drove me down this path. And it's so hard to explain to people because it sounds
fucking nuts. I mean, to me it sounds nuts, but if my whole family didn't see it with me,
I would still think, nah, I'm just crazy. You know? So that's the one thing that's so hard
about this field. Like no matter, it seems like no matter how much evidence we give out,
it's never enough. You know? Yeah. Cause they're going to be like, oh no, they edited the video
or it sounds just like the guy or whatever. Right? Like it's just like they have to experience it
for themselves. Yeah, dude, they do. They really do. I mean, I've been waiting for somebody to
hit me up or give me a call or what, but no skeptics are ever wanting to do it or anything
like that. Well, there's a challenge skeptics, Bert, RGV, paranormal lockdown. Now you gotta hit
them up. Yes, you do. So Bert, what do you have planned for 2023, brother? A lot, a lot. I actually
have an investigation coming up in about a week and a half, not this coming Thursday, but next
Thursday. I'm going out of town. Where about you shooting at? Can you tell or no? Not yet. Oh,
it's a secret. All right. So bro Anthony, remember when, what was her name? Anna or
Wana? That's like a lady that was there reading the cards and she said that I had something
planning big. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. That I had something big and planned. I was like, oh,
right on the dot. It's like, dude, like she read my cards like, oh, you have something big. That's
going to be like successful. It's going to say, yeah, right. And I was like, she got it right on
the nose. She's accurate, dude. I mean, she is. Oh, I believe it. I work with a great medium and
I tell you what, before I met the medium, I was very skeptical on a lot of mediums, man, because
a lot of them are just about money mostly and they don't, you know, I just don't feel like they
really have the gift. And when you get those certain people that do, man, they could freak you out.
Dude, for real, dude. Yeah, they could freak you out. I mean, but that's so awesome to hear, man.
It's so awesome to hear that it's coming true and then everything is working through, man. That's
so cool. Yeah. Yeah. No, definitely, dude. I mean, I have that going on next few weeks and I'm going
to try to hit up a renders pass. I need to get back to my investigation that I was on that I
basically had to step back to. I was supposed to go over there last month in January, but
I couldn't, you know, personal things came up, so I had to reschedule it. But then I got
this invitation to go where I'm going to be going to the next few weeks. I couldn't pass this up,
dude. I was like, I have to go. I have to go. Like I can't. I can't skip this. So I was like,
you know what? Screw it. So we had planned and I worked with some people out there that, you know,
that are YouTubers as well. So it just, it just fit into place, man. It just fit into place. I
was working on it for a good while, but I finally was able to get it, you know, get it controlled.
So that would be awesome. It'd be so much fun. Now, Bert also builds paranormal equipment. Yes. Yes,
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one who is drunk and falling in my backyard. No, that was, that was like the night, but like
the night after that was the night after a celebrate like, yeah, we investigated. I don't know,
but man, it's a good time, dude. Um, I mean, I don't know, man. Um,
um, the most recent one I did is at the, uh, I went to the little board house. I didn't really
get much activity out there in the very beginning of the video, but at the end of it, close to like
four or five o'clock in the morning, that's when it started building up, dude. Um, this, this location
is over here in Rio Grande city and, um, you know, the, you know, which one cut the rampart was going
off and, uh, Oh, okay. So my wife wanted me to point it out. It's a little board house. Okay.
It's a hotel. So it's, uh, let me add this to the screen. Now I think I can bring it up this one
right here. The bottom, the blue, right? Or the purple. Yeah. Yeah. Now, do you know where about
would you like me to show some evidence from here? Is there, do you know maybe a certain point in the
video that I can go to? I would go to the, to the other video, actually the 47 minute one and, uh,
hit up the end of that actually. Yeah. Cause in the beginning, dude, there was not much activity
going on in the very beginning of that video, bro. Yeah. It was really dead. No worries.
They're like right, right around there is where I started getting like more
feedback, more of that rampart going off and the ghost balls were going off and whatnot. And
okay. I mean, that's where I come.
Little girl, please come through. Come and speak to me. I mean, you know, I'm here to help you.
I'm here to protect you. Oh my goodness. How old were you when you died?
I'm
gonna grow. How old were you when you died?
Hello. The truck passing by.
Bye your burger.
I just want to stop this for a quick sec for I want to talk to you real quick about something
What I love about this right here man is now. Can you tell me a little bit about the
About the location. I know you said it's a hotel
Tell me like what who you're trying to contact right now because there's something I want to say
Yeah, so right here in this actual area used to be a whale right back in the you know
the old times when this hotel first opened up two little girls had drowned in that well and
And you know pouring the witnesses that they hear little girls
You know walking around laughing things like that
And that's the exact spot where the well was and it's underneath that plate that you see it on the ground
So yeah, when I looked in the holes, it was just all dirt. So I just thought hey, you know what?
I'm gonna place my my bear on there some stuff that has lights and sounds and maybe it'll bring something up
You know, I mean kids like lights. They like bears, you know, so
Yeah, I've had I've had a child that one of the we have a child cemetery out here
It's not really a full cemetery of a child, but they have a section where they're all children and it's like four and under
it's very old cemetery and
I
Tell you what they said the REM pod when they would set it off looked like a Christmas tree
So I was like, hey, you know, it makes sense. They like, you know lights, you know
Yes, I agree and dude that thing was going off crazy bro, like a little bit later
You know in this in this video here just a little bit dude. Yeah, I played you know, check it out man
Yeah, yeah, let me get it up. Hold on. Sure. I skipped forward a little bit. Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, yeah, just a little bit. You know, as soon as I as soon as you see me start walking, I guess a little bit
like right right here
I
Want you to walk in? Yeah, there you go. Yeah just around there
Okay
It's funny that you had to show that because I always show the vanity or the spirits what you know what it does too
So it's so cool. You showed that
Yeah, because you know just in case you know, I mean, you know these spirits
They probably don't know much like how to do things. I mean, they're still probably learning, you know
Absolutely and think about it if you died a long time ago and you didn't have any kind of technology
They'd probably like what is this?
Exactly
So here comes a part to where I go and I move like some stuff around I think I just moved the ghost balls here in
a bit
You know, I'm gonna fast forward just a little bit. Okay
Uh, yeah, let's go a little bit more
You'll see that the ghost ball on the top left corner will be moved
Okay
Oh, yeah, there you go. Yeah
So I moved them so that was when I moved them right watch that one stopped
Right
Hear my reaction
Is that you can do it again
I don't think people will also realize like how much you actually have to do to make that ball go off
Dude, yeah, man
That is true
I even did like a demonstration like just stomping on the ground and everything like that just going around and everything
Yeah, yes you
Did you do that or did you just
I just did a demonstration like just stomping on the ground and everything like that just going around and everything
Yeah, yes you
Did you do that or did somebody else do it?
So
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, there you go good job
Great job. That's awesome
Very good job. Yes. Good job. Good job. Oh my gosh. I'm getting the chills very badly right now
Yes, yes, yes, it's so funny because in my mind's eye I could totally picture a child coming over and touching that for real dude
It just gets real it gets more dude. It gets more active
Don't stop keep going
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much
And again again
Thank you, thank you so much
Are you the little girls are the girls here with me now another truck passing by
Very loud truck
So the girls do that again make one of them light up again touch the bear touch the bear
That's awesome right there
Yes
Really good response as you're saying too like you're you know
You're basically asking them to set it off and they're like let's play
You know like I want to play and I think that that is so cool
I just want to say hey, what's going on to Pankha? How are you?
How are you guys so says how are you?
Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate that. Um, but dude, let me tell you that is so awesome
Like I love how um
I love how you had the ramp I go off too
Like when I was in the child cemetery over here, uh the part where the children's are
They actually set off the ramp odd man like the lights but the sound didn't come out
And I didn't know and until I watched the video back and I saw it behind us
And the red light went like the green light all that kind of stuff and it was going off
But no sound came on. I found that so weird
But it's so awesome that you had the ramp go off like that because and I i'm sure it's gonna go off even more than
Now when we watch further
but um
I tell you what I find that that for some reason for me
It's easier for a cap off for them from on my side for when I do my research than for the rent pot
I don't know what it is, but I love when I see the rent pod go off man, because it's so cool
I agree dude. Yeah, man
I mean that was one of my best purchase that I've ever made in any kind of equipment that I have dude
I mean, um, you know, I I was digging in a little bit more about these ramp pods, dude
because something in this video happens dude to where
The the the lights and then the sounds were going back and forth back for different color different color. They do it was weird
I didn't see anything about it on like the manual and I got it from go stop
There's nothing about it from going like certain colors and a pattern or anything like that
Nothing. It's weird. No, it was really freaking bizarre. You're absolutely right
I got mine from go stop as well and I you're right
I never heard anything of that happening and even when mine happened without the sound i'm like I
Never saw that happen ever like and it was the first
Yeah, I mean it wasn't going fully off like all the lights
But there was a few lights and you could see it going off and i'm like
Where's the sound like we didn't even know it was going off until I got home and reviewed it like two days later
And i'm like, oh my gosh, I wish I knew you know
That is crazy. I've never really heard of that before dude. That's the first that's the first for me, man
That was the first for me as well. It was wild
I mean, yeah, what was some of the crazy stuff that you've had happen with your equipment?
Um my equipment, I don't I don't use it
No
I got it. I mean I have the cat boss the rampart is actually one that I want
It's just like i'm like bird, you know, i'm still looking at it and looking at it
But it's one of the it's the coolest one thing that i've seen so far. I mean, you know for me
And and i've had my on it my eye on it for a long time
But I am fixing to pop off and get one and uh, now seeing that seeing it here
and uh, so
But as far as the equipment my equipment just shuts down
Yeah, I mean that's that's that's all I it's all that I have I mean I got cameras and stuff for the um
The the ghost light I mean the little cat ball lights that one did did uh did work
At the lp pow house that I was at last year
And I was in that room by myself and and I just put it on the on the table
And I just kept asking me. Oh, hey if you if you're here, you know, just light up the ball
And I did the same thing. I said look you do it like this, you know, I just you gotta show them
And so I just went up this look you just tap on it or just move it or anything
You know, it'll go off. It'll let me know that you're here and I walked around and walked around and then um
And when I came around the corner, I said it was just lighting up
And and so I said, okay, let me let me see because I was I weighed a little bit more back then
And and so I started from and I kind of bounced on the floor because it's an old house
And and nothing. I mean, I mean I even tapped on the table
I had to tap on the table pretty hard to make it go off
So it did go off and then it was oh, yeah
I was going off on the bed once everybody showed up and they started messing with that spirit trying to trying to get it to come out
Yeah, they were going back and forth. Yeah, I got that on video and it's um
They're just going back and forth and in the in their equipment. It's all flashing and everything
It's pretty cool. But I don't know man for me. I don't really get off too much on the equipment
Yeah, no, I feel you. I mean think about it. I mean we do have our our body. How are you jason?
Um jason, I uh, I mean we do have our bodies our bodies is the best tool
The only thing that stinks is that we can't show people that evidence, you know
Yeah, that's why I just went and invested some some good some good money on some good camera
I mean I have good cameras, but I got this one that i've been after forever and I finally got my hands on it and uh
Because that's what I've always said too. I've had through my 40 years. I've had
experiences that I've forgotten but
and
But and but I can't they're just stories
You know what i'm telling it now. It's just a story. But when I got something to show with it that can validate it
Then it becomes something so that's that's when I decided to
To start filming because like I said, I didn't my I didn't have a group. It was just me
That's why I decided to start my to you know
Well, let me go ahead and just start a group because i'm I got a lot of stuff man, but it's all up. It's all here
You know, I can't show you that I can't you know, I mean, I I know it's real but I can argue with you all day
Exactly. So that's when I started to do that um to get that footage
Yeah, I totally those batteries die quick man. They do they do you know what I use I use a um
I use one of those power banks and I hook it up to the camera
And I either in my pocket here with you know a cord so I can have it always going
And I tell you what I did at montana state prison and I bought like three or four of the power banks for like five bucks
A piece and they lasted literally the whole entire time
I was there just one of them and it was it was uh, like 12 hours were there eight hours nine hours
I think some between nine and 12 hours was nice
Oh
But bro, I want to ask you so you know how the red
The rem pod has the red light on it obviously and all these lights they set off and stuff
I want to ask you what do you think that they're seeing?
When the rem pod is?
Do you think that because you know, obviously as a spirit we're energy
Um, do you think that they're physically seeing this red light and this box or this device?
Do you think that it's something on a whole nother level? What do you what do you think in your opinion?
I think I mean in my own opinion, man. Can they see us?
I really don't think so to be honest with you
I believe it's just something that they're hearing just like how we can hear them with their own voices or their own voices
With their own voices with their own ears. They can probably hear us
You know, and uh, I think I was I talked to anthony about this too
It was a verse that's on the bible on earth as it is in heaven
You know, so what if you know heaven is really just here at home and we're us living
Are the ghosts to them?
What if you know, I mean, yeah, I don't know man
I mean it's that that's that's the point in learning these things, you know
You learn as much as you can research man, but that's that's what i'm thinking just for seeing and hearing other people's stories and
That's what i'm thinking man. Yeah, absolutely man. How about you man? What's your opinion on the subject?
Oh
You think they can see the red light or do you think how do you think that they perceive this in your opinion?
Um, the other day I was uh, I think it was steve. Oh who was doing that? He was yeah, he was steve
He was doing the uh his spirit box
And and I asked him if he could uh speak to one to one of my best friend that passed away
Yeah, and and so he started calling calling on him to come forward
And I mean it didn't even take long and I heard
You know, I was on my phone
And you could hear what the voice just come through and it's just he said I miss you
you know and
And it hit me. I mean it hit me hard. I mean right now just just saying it, you know
and uh
um
I heard it. I heard it and I felt it. You see me right now man. I'm already getting teary-eyed
I'm the race prince. I don't cry. Uh
When I heard it I could feel it I knew it was him I mean, you know, and i've heard many many, um
You know, um, the voices come through there
You know how they come in kind of sporadic or whatever just no this just came in nice and just thought I just I miss him
And I knew it was him because that's something that he would have said, you know
and and uh
so
For that it's kind of like I do believe that they can see us
you know, they can see us and they know that they can feel because
uh
For for that to come through that means he still has emotions
Absolutely, you know, so this is when we talk about don't go in, you know and provoke or be respectful in all this, you know, um
Because this is such talk you're talking to a real person. They're just not here, you know
So I I believe that they can see us, you know, they're that they're with us
I mean if when when you hear that there that are our guides or or maybe our past loved ones are still with us in a way
for a little while
Do that so they gotta see what you're doing. I mean, I kind of don't like that, you know
That they're actually here watching what i'm doing, you know
Trying to take a crap over here, man. Yeah, you know
And so but I mean I do believe I believe that they can see us and they can they can feel and
Hear just like us
You know, uh, that's why when birds doing that, you know, um
Can you touch this you know?
It's showing them how to do it. So they're they're they have they have that intelligence to still to understand or even to learn
Let me ask you this. All right, let me ask you this because I have this theory
This is just an opinion but this I have this theory, right?
So, you know how we catch these light anomalies that will go into spirit boxes or they'll go into us and certain things like that
They kind of look like oars, but they're light anomalies type thing. Yeah
Met calls that good acting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I know I feel like
I feel like those are these light anomalies that we do catch every once in a while
I feel like that is actual the consciousness energy of a soul
And I feel like have you ever noticed or have you ever done a spirit box session?
And before you had the chance to ask a question the answer came out
It's like right as you were either asking it or or before have you ever I don't know if you guys ever had that happen
But i've had it happen to me a couple times
And I tell you what I I wonder if they are actually
How do I say this they're
Reading our mind almost like they're like our thoughts
I don't think our thoughts just stop when we're in deep thought or when we're thinking about something
I believe that energy that motion and that energy that's in motion. I think that it goes somewhere
I don't think it just stays inside us just stops right away
I feel like that energy is able to be seen by them
And I feel like those thoughts maybe like as you're like say if I go down the ramp on i'm like, okay
If you just touch this what if they're actually because I have to think about that before I say it
So what if that split second they can read that mind and they can you know go through that type of aspect because they're pure consciousness energy
Like I said just a theory and just a total opinion on the subject
But I like what you guys said though. I mean, I totally believe that they can't see us
I definitely do but I I believe that an energy aspect
I just believe that they have so much more than than we can even imagine or comprehend, you know
Man, both of you had really good
Wow, yeah, dude. Wow. Yeah, yeah actually last night
I started my podcast about almost one in the morning
I was thinking you were gonna get on burden. I said watch you're gonna see it
No, we stayed up to about four so we were on there for four hours. So it's been
Seeing another another member of mine my researcher and uh, um, um, uh
Reggie randall
I had him on and you know how he talks through the spirit box. He's a spirit box. He's got a spirit
He's the one giant spirit guy. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah
And we we brought that that was brought up on that the spirits they can they can hear us in our mind
So that's why that's why when we ask something it's they were ready. They're already on it, you know
Yeah, it's already there because like what you're exactly was saying
They're on a different level
And of thought, you know, and so when we think it here
It's still got to come down here and you know from a brain to our voice box
And then we have to use air to push the words out, you know, they don't have to do that
Listen to this not to interrupt you but listen to this
So I had my medium my medium told me one time when I connected with my father when he passed, um
I asked him what is it like in heaven?
You know like I wanted to know that question from her and her answer that he said to her according to her was
Anthony think of it this way if
I think I want to go to the beach or I want to be at the beach
I'm whatever I think it's done like i'm there like if I think about being at the beach
It's there that anything I think or I want in the minute. I think it it's there
And you know what's really weird about that is as humans being in these physical bodies. What do we want the most?
Instant gratification. It doesn't matter if it's we want money now. We want this now and we always want more
It's never we're always satisfied because we're always growing I believe in certain ways. But what if
That what I was just saying about how he said if we think about it
It happens what if that's true and what if because they're pure conscious energy pure thought all the time
You know we can think about them the minute we think about them boom. They're here with us
Like say we miss somebody and I'm like grandma. I miss you the minute. I think about her boom
She's here with me right now
What if that you know what i'm saying if it's instant, you know
And then having our instant gratification as humans always wanting it like saving like say for example
Like for me when I was addicted to drugs, I wanted that instant gratification of getting you know higher being happy
So it was I wanted that instant gratification constantly and people do it with gambling people do it with just regular day life
All the time. We want that, you know instantly instant gratification
Like I was saying and i'm just wondering like what if that is true?
Like what if they're pure conscious thought like the minute whatever they think or whatever we think
You know, they're there because they're on this whole nother plane this whole nother comprehension
That we don't even understand the energy and it's full, you know full aspect
You know, it's just crazy stupid theory that I think about but I I try to bring these synchronicities in from all my research
To see like oh wow, you know what?
This kind of matches this or this synchrony kind of matches this synchrony
Like what if this you know and just something to expand and then to be able to ask more questions to the spirits when you get a chance
But I mean, what do you guys think about it in your opinion?
I mean they call it heaven for you know heaven for a reason right? I mean dude, that's awesome
You know imagine just thinking about what you want you to get it like that. I mean wow. I know yeah, I mean
One thing I was a little upset though is that there was a spirit that told me there's no video games
So I was a little upset about that. I was I was not gonna lie. Yeah, you know, but that's right
I'll come back to earth for that
There you go
I believe that I mean because I can say that I'm not a fan of video games
I believe that I mean because like I said last night we had that that four-hour podcast just
it's really just turn on on just kind of that subject right there and and
um
Listening to what reggie was saying and then from what I've experienced too is it's like I believe it because they're
They're not physical. So, you know, we have to think it like you said consciously. Okay, there's that energy
But we still have to have the energy to physically to say the words to get it out
So they since they don't have the body. It's just nothing but consciousness. So it's like right now we were talking
Telepathically, you know, so that's how they talk to each other, you know, they talk to each other because they don't have a body
So how they're going to talk to each other but to crunch to the pure consciousness like you said
yeah, so so they think it in a in their own manifest or it's done and
and that that actually opens the other door is because
Close your eyes Burt because uh, when you get this right here
This is what happens with this is when you when people use it they come in
And they and they're conscious. They already have something bad's going to come out of it
Say you want to see satan? I want to see six days. I want to see demon come up
Like you see on the shows and you hear everybody. It said demon. It spelled this out
Uh, well you already had that that in your consciousness when you and so
You're opening a door to that other side just like with the spirit
So that's what it hears and then what comes through that door? You're already calling it
So you're actually calling a demon already because you already thought about it here. Are you calling satan?
You know, okay, maybe his name is satan or whatever
And and uh, so that's there's a hundred evil spirits waiting to come in and as soon as you do it up here
Like you're saying if they're going to come through that's why so many people have all these bad experiences with this deal
Because uh, it was brought up to on another podcast. I was on
that um
That I said, uh, what what if we and I think this was on there last night too that um
What if a person and when they're alive they commit suicide?
And they put a shotgun to their mouth and they just blow their entire head off
Does are they are when they when they pass in the spirit? Do they have a head?
Because I mean physically they don't it's gone. I mean, we know this, you know
Uh, so do they when they move on so the are they are they that way, you know with no no mouth?
No, nothing and what reggie brought up is is you know
Until they pass over into the other side to the light then they'll receive whatever they're going to receive all that will be whole
But as long as they stay here and they don't leave then they will be the way they were when they left here
Yeah, so if you take that into account, then they don't have a mouth
So they can't speak so when you come in with the spirit box or the portal box or whatever. They actually can't
Manipulate that you know what I mean to speak through it
You know, I think some of the reasons why also that they can't manipulate
I don't think it's because they don't have a mouth
I think one of the reasons is is because of the fact that they're they they get stuck here and then their energy is so low
If they don't cross over that be having their vibration and frequency so low
It's hard for them to connect with the frequency that they're having
So low it's hard for them to connect with the frequency that they need to because if you think about it
Like when a spirit connects with a medium or connects even with a spirit box
It has to the medium in the spirit box. They have to meet each other at a certain
You know frequency or vibration or whatever. So the medium will have to raise its vibration
so that the spirit can meet it to communicate and send blocks of thought for them to
Analyze and figure out what the whole symbol or whatever is so i'm wondering if it's the same thing there
So I do I totally understand where you're coming from with that
Like, you know, what if they commit suicide, you know, they blow their head off and stuff
But I believe too like the energy that we are inside of us down to our cellular level
And i've said this before on the show like each cell gives off 0.007 of a volt
So a volt so you figure we have like 36 trillion cells in our body
We're walking nuclear power plant if you think about it the energy that we have inside of us
And this energy is so intelligent and smart that it heals us without it knowing like without us even knowing all the impurities like the
You know our white cells that go around like army and take out all this bad stuff that we have
And I think that it's so intelligent that energy that that energy no matter what we do to the physical body
I mean after we cross over i'm saying I believe that
That energy is completely whole and brought back to its full thing
But like I said, this is all theory, you know, we never i'm not going to know until we do truly go but
Uh, it's great. It's great to be able to go back and forth because it gives all of us different ideas and stuff to
Go forward with in the research, you know, so right it gets you thinking
Mr consultant in the chat. What's up, mr consultant?
Oh, three souls just said, uh, my best friend ron, um
Blew his head off two years ago. He was in the military and was a pilot for the air force
He had coordinates to bomb a building in afghanistan and it was a schoolhouse of kids
And I completely understand why he you know, why he would have done that
That's that's terrible, you know, and it's it's war just in itself is sad. But tell me guys
What do you think? Um, you think that somebody with that type of guilt?
Do you think they would cross over?
Because i've met a lot of spirits that that's really what the deal is with them when they get stuck is that
There's something that's they're like in this depression or something
It's weird like they're like their vibration or energy is so low that they just can't see
Can't see crossing over and i've had some that are even scared to cross over. So do you think someone like in ron's?
Perspective do you think like that kind of guilt and that third thing might hold them back?
Like what are your guys opinions on spirits being stuck here?
I mean, you know, there's there's forgiveness i'm sure you know, I mean, you know, it's just a matter of just you know
Finishing what you have to do and what you couldn't be able to complete because of some something treasure like that happened
And i'm very sorry for your loss, by the way
Yeah, very sorry
That is very that's a terrible way to go. I mean, you know, I I get it
you know
life sucks, you know, I understand, you know personal things come and go and
It it's just uh, it's a hassle and it takes a toll on everyone's day, you know
And there's just so much that we can take we're only human, you know
um, and just it's just very
It's a very sad thing to do man, but
It is what it is man. You know, there's just so much that other people can do just be there for one another
Communicate as much as possible. You can if you know, someone's going through that trouble, please just
Be there just yeah, just be there for them. Yeah
um, I mean
You know passing, you know passing through
I'm sure they can be forgiven, you know for it, you know, um as catholics
I believe it is one of the sins, you know, if you you know, just commit, you know commit suicide like that
But i'm sure you can be forgiven
I'm sure i'm sure you could just pass on
And that food we brought that up last night, too. It was a good podcast. Yummy
It was three in the morning now, but boy I was in bed. I had to get to work at six thirty in the morning
You were in the house, man. What are you doing? You gotta go to the next room
I I know that i'm
I didn't get told either you left us all out man
I mean, jeez
But uh, what we were talking about is that sometimes maybe the person
after they passed, um
Not necessarily that they did commit a suicide or just whatever they did, you know
That they are scared to be judged
Yeah, so they don't want to cross over, you know, I don't want to because I know if I go in that courthouse
I'm getting the hammer. You know, I mean, so they don't just don't go. It's just kind of like out here, you know people
uh break parole whatever and
They run I mean they're just out there hiding hiding because they're not going back to jail
No, i'm not gonna go turn myself in they could go they could go do it and get it over with and get their
their punishment, you know
but but they don't so it's the same kind of like the same thing with them is that they may not want to cross over because
Uh, and if they believe in hell and you know all that well, then hell no, i'm not gonna go over there
I'll just stay over here, you know, just mess around with everybody else or whatever, you know
Absolutely, and I I totally agree what you're saying because when I was in montana
Uh the prison we had uh lee smart and he that was his exact words
He was scared to cross over because of the people he hurt during the riot
And also because he said he had a love interest with jerry miles who was the partner of his during the riot
And he felt that god was going to punish him for what he did and he was scared to cross over
But he also didn't want to stay in the prison
So finally, we're hopefully I I believe we cross I crossed him over. I believe so
But you know, obviously I can't be sure because I can't see into that realm
But um, it took a lot
It took a lot of like trying to convince him like listen, you're you know
God loves you god's not gonna judge you for this like he's gonna like he's gonna say maybe say some things or whatever
But he's not gonna sit here and beat you to death or something. Like it's not like he's about love
It's I think god's way more bigger than just what we have written in a book, you know
Yeah
And that's so false too if they were murdered
I mean they may not want to cross over because they want to get a hold of somebody, you know
Yeah, try to talk to somebody say hey, this is the person that murdered me, you know
And this is when you get those cases like that where where they'll actually will lead you to where their body is buried
Yeah, you know if you get if you have that certain person with you they can pick that up, you know, they'll they'll lead you to them
um, so it could be that too
That they just stay here, but how long is that gonna be it could be 100 years true
So the right into the right real medium or where it was the right person comes along and picks up on it and follows through
But who knows how that how that long that's gonna be
I mean can be years can be generations in the meanwhile
They're just running around the house knocking stuff over because they're pissed off because nobody wants to hear me
You know, I have a question for you guys
I have a question for you first
I'm gonna have to answer this one next because I know it's gonna have a really adept thing to say about this
But what do you think where of how come we don't see?
spirits from
I don't know, uh
1200 or 1300 or even 500 bc
How come you don't think we see old old old ghost roman type stuff like india like old type stuff
You know i'm saying oh like that a lot
But i've we've never i've never had anyone ever capture anything like from someone like oh i'm from 1200 ad or whatever
Tell me why you maybe your opinion on it
Man maybe they crossed over a long time ago or what you think that that that's a new question for me, dude
You got me on that one. Yeah, dude, bro. I've
Never crossed my mind at all. What's the way I would do for that?
No, i've always wanted to investigate the gladiator theater the gladiator
Because see our stadium in rome, you know what I mean? And i've always wanted that be what was that?
How cool would that be dude? That would be awesome. Wouldn't it? You know, yeah, dude
I'm wondering if they if the spirits would actually be there though, because like I said, i've never seen i've never heard of a spirit
You know from back back then, uh coming through, you know, but hey, tell me what do you think about it?
Well, I mean i've thought about that too. It's like how come when they
The person sees a spirit say like in gettysburg, you know hear that story
I mean those stories a lot by gettysburg and they see i'm still dressed in the in the in the uniform and everything of that time
So to me it's kind of like okay for one is how do they have?
How does the clothes cross over?
well
Well, this was the medium told me the medium told me that it's not the clothes that cross over. It's actually
When a spirit comes through the way that they show themselves whether it's to the medium or to whatever it's they're normally coming back
at the time where they were
Alive not maybe the happiness not the happiest or maybe something where it's like
Something that made them feel a certain way I guess but I don't know what that is
Like I said, this is from a medium, but you know, it could be true, but you're right
How come certain people show themselves like this and certain people don't you know, I totally get what you're saying now
What's up, Raymond?
um
Raymond nuisance from nuisance paranormal
um
Laggy I was lagging big time. We were all lagging last night. I don't know what was going on with everything. It was weird
I've never done a podcast that late now. I think that we were talking about we're in the wishing hour right now
And so it was weird. It was some weird stuff going on
um, but uh, so to
Is that the clothes will hold the energy of the person?
Oh, yeah, yeah, and that's why the energy still the energy is transferred
You know your energy is going to transfer into the other side
So your the your clothes will hold that energy and it also better just go with you. It's kind of like a like a shadow
Like a shadow, you know me and so that's why you see them with that clothes
I don't know. I mean, I don't know why if we don't see no wrong with that
Maybe if you got a hold of some paranormal people and
In Italy or something like that. I gotta find out dude. They have seen them. I mean we don't say i'm here
We just see a bunch of mexicans. That's all yeah
There's my deal man, this is my seal hey all you guys
man, tell me so
What are on what is one thing you could tell us about what's coming up that you can speak about for?
2023 that you're looking forward to
Looking to get sponsored by these dudes right here pit vipers
So i'm gonna be wearing these bad boys, uh, you know my youtube videos also, so
Yeah, i'm gonna be representing these dudes. Um, I follow a group up to the place well up to the area that i'm gonna go
And this group actually wears these sounds like man like those those sunglasses are pretty cool
Yeah, so I got me some like, you know what i'm gonna work on getting a sponsor with these guys
So i'm working on the video do that. I'm gonna go to ranz's pass. Hopefully this coming month. Um
I just need to take it from there man. And after that I need to start getting more involved with my equipment too
I need to get these out there, you know, hey, this is what I got. I'm gonna work on a portal box
I want to start working on that
getting new equipment in so
Awesome, and try to get some more places to investigate too, man, but I need to get more out there, you know
Yeah out here in the valley. I need to just try to find some places
It's just that getting a hold of the owner is tough, man
This people's people think it's easy. It's not easy, dude. It's difficult, man
Not even just getting a hold of them getting them to let you investigate is a whole nother ballgame. Yeah
They want to say to you or no, they don't want any of that juju there. You know what i'm saying?
exactly exactly but
Well brother, um, i'm gonna do it
I would love to definitely have you on again to show some more stuff if you don't mind. Not sure. Yeah, please have me on
Let me know for this year. We got coming up. So I want to see some footage from the product
You know this this coming week friday before I leave
I'll put up the video and
I'm all hyped for it. I'm ready. I just like that. Come on. Let's go. Let's do this. I'm in
I'm just super excited, dude
Awesome. Well, hey man, thank you so much for joining me and I joined in tonight, dude
We really appreciate it. I'm gonna definitely have you on again. I look forward to that video
But everybody go check out rgv paranormal lockdown. We have the youtube link down below check them all also on facebook
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Burt can you please once again just shout out anything else you would like to shout out to the people and uh your equipment stuff
Anything like that, please
Yeah, thank you. Um, everybody. Thank you all so much for tuning in. I really do appreciate it
Uh, once again, my name is birdy. If y'all need me for anything, please reach out facebook youtube instagram
Uh snapchat twitter. I got it all tick tock please. Uh,
Hey raymond, what's up, buddy? Um, but yes, I do sell equipment as well. I do sell night vision cameras
I you know modify it and I as well make the sls connect
Coming soon is the portal box that i'm going to be making so you're gonna look up for those too
Those are gonna be awesome
and other than that
You know stay tuned for this preview for this investigation coming out soon, man. I I hope you guys will enjoy it
Cool. Well burt. Thank you so much brother. I appreciate you
Thank you agent for having me man. Appreciate it anthony sir. Always a pleasure
Stop playing with them ouija boards bro
Texas ghost ranger is I know
Only raymond raymond just starts stuff, you know, hey, that's a good name dude. I like that. That's cool
It's ghost ranger. Heck. Yeah, man. All we need now is to join us and we'll be straight
Dude be golden, right golden
Thank you so much brother
I'm gonna i'll be talking to you real soon on messenger so we can get you back on and stuff
But I'm looking forward to the uh, looking forward to the video and i'm also gonna put you on as a
Advertiser for the talking with the source page so you can advertise your stuff get yourself up
Yeah, I know appreciate it man. So please feel free to post on there whenever you'd like
Um, yeah, we're in the group man. So appreciate you brother. Thank you
Appreciate you guys. Thank you all so much. We'll speak soon. Thank you. All right
Yeah, man, I tell you burt such a great dude man and i'm happy that you were able to join me tonight too man
I just short notice but I was so happy you were able to join me. All right, it's cool. It's cool
That's what we do man. That's what we do
So hey, but before we go, please shout out your stuff for everybody
I want them to know about the race, uh, you know texas race hunters the podcast just please shout it out
Um, well texas race hunters this year 2023. This is texas race hunters a year this last year was race world year
Race world at the end started started the podcast then
um, but to this year it'll be both i'm gonna i'm collaborating both of them together and uh, so we gotta we got a
Uh an investigation coming up at the lp pow house in mignola, texas
Which has 26 spirits in it, which we did last september
Um, that's where we channeled the channeled the four girls through the board
And kind of left it left it at that so we got an opportunity to go back
Here march 18th
And then uh, hopefully we can banish that spirit that's holding them there
Because he he did he he was knocking everything down and I mean all my stuff
He was just I mean that was a poltergeist kind of stuff. I'm literally just throwing knocking my stuff my cameras everything down
So we're gonna try to we're going back to that and we're gonna do that one
and then
uh march may
We have we might do the we actually had that one on the books already but i'm getting together with another group from san antonio
To do them, uh the haunted hill house in mineral wealth, texas
and then uh
march june and may also with uh
planning to do the
the uh
concordia
Cemetery in el paso where richard ramirez was at
So, um, we're gonna go out there to el paso in may
and then in june
um
Um, they never forgot. There's another one
So yeah, pretty busy year
And then uh, hopefully hopefully here too. Uh by the end of the year
I will be out of this desert and i'll be moving to san antonio, texas
and uh because that is so
candy store of paranormal
Well, dude, I look forward to it, man
I'm super happy for you man, and I can't wait to see what's coming for this year for you guys. Yeah
I got a lot. I got a lot coming up
Well brother, thank you so much for joining me man. I will thank you for having me or no, of course man
Anytime you want to come on dude, please
But we're gonna have you on again because I want to have you guys on your whole team on man
And uh, we've got to have you on once but I wasn't able to be there because of stupid work
But uh, yeah this time dude, we're gonna have you on I want to show some stuff and uh show some great evidence
You guys got so yeah, we'll be talking man. We'll get you scheduled to come back on so but I appreciate you man
Thank you so much for joining me tonight, dude, and i'll talk to you soon. All right, sure thing. Peace
All right, man talk to you soon
right
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