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What is going on everybody?
This is AJ Capasso, host of Talking With The Source.
I'm here with my other host.
Robin from Hufford Paranormal.
Oh, you didn't do your Robin?
No it's Robin.
Oh there we go, there we go.
See I'm lucky I didn't get that today.
Anyway, I want my friend down below to introduce himself.
I want him to tell us a little bit about himself if he could.
We should tell the viewers a little bit about himself since we haven't actually got to have
him on, just him alone yet.
So please my friend, introduce yourself to the viewers.
My name is Aaron Hoffman.
A lot of people out there know me as The Shadow.
I am the co-creator and host for Spectre Radio Paranormal podcast.
I am the creator of You Beyond Paranormal magazine and I also have a production service
that I kind of run Gravedigger Productions.
Awesome, awesome.
We are super happy that you were able to come on man.
I didn't know who was able to come on so I was just happy that someone was able to and
when I saw that it was you I was like yes man this is awesome.
Please tell everybody about A View Beyond real quick man, where they can get the latest
and everything like that please.
Yeah A View Beyond, it's a paranormal magazine of course but it's not just any paranormal
mag.
It's for the paranormal community by the paranormal community and the whole idea is that anybody
in the field regardless if you are a psychic medium, paranormal investigator, if you're
into ghost, cryptic, UFOs, whatever it is, if you have an article or great photo capture,
send it to me at aviewbeyondmagazine.gmail.com and I will do what I can to get you in the
mag because the magazine is not for the community without the community itself.
Hell yeah.
And you can find that magazine at www.avbmagazine.com.
I am super happy that you plugged that in man because people need to hear about this
magazine.
It's one of those magazines just like a couple friends that we had on the show earlier that
is about the community and things that you do with it man are absolutely awesome.
I was super happy that I got to meet you and now working with you with Global Ghost Hunt
which shout out to Global Ghost Hunt.
We got our first year coming up.
It's running around soon almost.
It's May so me and Aaron are stuck doing a lot of stuff.
I know Aaron you're plugging a lot of stuff in.
How's that working out for you?
It's working out pretty good.
It's going to be an interesting event because it's the chance where we get to showcase the
teams and locations as well as the evidence.
Nothing against YouTube but YouTube streams a lot of their stuff after the fact.
Global Ghost Hunt we're going to stream it as it happens.
This is going to be really exciting.
Now do you have a list of the places where we're going to actually be streaming it yet
because I haven't actually been able to talk to anybody about that yet and I wanted to.
I know we haven't had any release of it yet but I wanted to see if maybe you had a little
something something to give.
I do know that there will be streams through the Global Ghost Hunt site.
I know there's also potential talk about having a simulcast to a pair post.
But right now everything is still kind of in a development point.
We still got teams registering.
We still have locations that are joining in so we won't really know until we get closer
to the date.
Absolutely, yeah that's what I told some of the teams that asked and I just let them know
once we have the list out the list will be out just like every time we have a sponsor
that we get which I believe we just had one recently that was a couple months ago that
we released.
What was it?
Paraflex was the one.
We have a lot of good things that are coming to Global and we're working off a tail end
of another company that didn't really do that's not really doing their job and so it's a scary
thing but it's a great thing because we have a great team.
We're going to take care of these people.
We're going to take care of these teams and we're going to have a great event man.
I'm so so pumped and I'm glad to be a part of it with you and also Robin I was glad to
be a part of it with you.
I know you had to step away.
I know you know the wife.
Yeah I've for anybody watching I have had to step away.
I didn't want to but I've had to for the for the first one.
I'll be back on board for October if not for October then definitely for next year but
I want to be back on board ASAP.
Absolutely you know like I told you man you know family comes first and you always have
to put family first because you can replace anything but family is something you can't
replace and you know ever since I lost mine it's been a real eye-opener when I see people
that are dealing with something like yourself or your family.
I'm glad to have you man glad to have worked with you.
Glad I still work with you obviously you're my best friend but anyway guys I want to ask
you a question.
What's your most profound paranormal experience that you've had?
Well I can't really just pin it to just one because each one was unique in their own way
but the few that have been you know unforgettable one would be at a play called Wabash Street
Caves here in Minnesota and these caves have a long history they were used for bootlegging,
moonshine running you know a lot of criminal activities back then.
Then in the 80s and 90s it became a place where people would engage in ritual activities
and things like that so these caves have a really you know dark history and I was out
there with some friends of mine and one time there was this one set of cave that had collapsed
in on itself and we broke we walked in and I looked up around the edge it's nice I swear
I saw cloaked figures and it freaked me out so bad that I started walking away and you
know this thing I know the 15 other people that was with me they started running because
they saw the same thing.
Hey I would have totally probably run myself I mean hey yeah well even if you're you know
a seasoned paranormal investigator if you find if you see something that freaks you
out you get that feeling you're running I don't care who you are you know but after
you run you may stop halfway and go oh my god I got to turn around and capture that
and then miss it but you will at first get scared and freak out at least I know I do
and I know a couple other friends that do as well so.
Yeah well what makes this interesting is that I refused to go back for almost 30 years.
Wow.
And when I finally went back a couple years ago with my team night watch this before we
disbanded I went back there and I said the one cave I do not want to find is the cave
that's called the altar and the altar is you first you walk in and then it kind of gets
narrow and you kind of have to do a belly crawl into an opening and then it opens up
and on the back wall there's an altar that carved out of the sandstone and there are
notches cut out to hold five candles in a pentagram pattern.
Well I went there a couple years ago and I said I don't want to find this place and along
the road they they try to blast most of them shut or to seal them off because some kids
have died from cyanide poisoning in these caves a few years ago so they blasted a lot
of them shut and they have these arrow pointing up to where the cave used to be we saw one
climbed up the face and sure enough I see the markings around the cave I was like damn
it it's the altar.
Oh my gosh.
And if you see the global ghost hunt promo the new one the very end where you see the
spirit box being held over the cave is there anyone here then you hear say yes.
That's me at the entrance to the altar that they had tried to seal off.
Wow.
That has to be a crazy place because I tell you what that looked like a crazy place just
from the video.
I mean it was.
Now tell me where is that like in the middle of nowhere or is that like some populated
or it's right along the Mississippi River in the middle of St. Paul Minnesota.
Oh wow.
Wow.
Now do you know like a lot of the history to it like the place.
Yeah.
Well I mean like I said a lot of it would use for bootleggers during the 20s and 30s.
Any history of any murders or anything that happened there like.
Yeah.
There's been a few murders a few murders out there.
There were the case of a homeless guy raping and killing a girl out there.
Oh gee.
Yeah.
I mean it in that part of St. Paul aside from the Wabash Street cave venue where a lot of
people have their weddings a party which is the unique place in itself.
That place was also haunted.
But that whole area during the daytime is a beautiful place.
They got a park but at night that's when you start to see a lot of the you know criminal
element come out because it's so rarely patrolled.
You're muted.
Sorry I was trying to say I apologize.
I'm used to using a desktop again.
I'm used to using my phone you know.
Sorry about that.
But what I was going to say is you guys have a lot of places out where you are that you
know have a lot of like history and location where you can go to or is it a lot of.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
You know I'm not too far from where I live with a small town called Anoka and the word
Anoka is actually two Native American words that translates into meeting meeting place
by the river.
And Anoka has suffered major cat catastrophe.
One of them was a fire that literally wiped out the town from the river seven blocks up.
Eighty five buildings were destroyed.
There are two buildings that are still standing that survived the fire and they're the original
brick and mortar built from the 1800s.
And with as much as much history that's gone on there and all the tragic tragedy that's
happened there in my experience it is one of the few locations that is extremely haunted
per square mile because of everything that's happened all over the place.
You know like certain places you know in New York or out in California or down in New Orleans
when you have a town that has so many negative things happen in such a small space you're
bound to find all kinds of weird things happening at the same time.
Yeah I tell you what I hear about so many of these places that are you know out more
west towards me out west from me and I want to go so bad someplace.
I mean Waverly is one of my top places I've always wanted to go to but there's so many
places across the U.S. man that I just thought you know me and Raymond have talked about
it and we've been like he's like oh yeah you know I live close to Waverly.
I'm like what?
I'm like this is ridiculous.
I'm like I'm so jealous.
Speaking of which though you're saying about caves I've just found out earlier today from
one of my Facebook friends who put pictures on of a cave system about 40 miles away from
me and I'm not going to say where it is.
People will probably know when I say this but I'm not going to say where it is.
These caves were used in the war for like a weapons storage but they are hundreds of
years old and they actually go way way deep in.
Now rumor has it that in the 1600s or 1700s four kids went in and only one came back out
and apparently the one that came back out and survived said that there was these little
figures he called and he didn't even call them humans he called them little figures
like dwarfs and they were talking in this kind of language that nobody had ever heard
before and apparently this kid says that he barely got out because one of them was grabbing
his foot but what the Daxie did was they sent the army at the time into the caves to search
for the kids because they thought oh this is ridiculous and they found all the kids
bones completely stripped bare of anything just bone and again what you said a minute
ago Aaron they reckon that there's a church way way deep in there at an altar but they're
not sure whether they apparently what they did was when they heard about these beings
they blasted part of it for at the cave in so that people wouldn't obviously die in there
and whatever but apparently when you go in there you can hear these voices of all this
language that you've never heard before.
You know we have something similar to that here in America we refer to them as Tommy
Knockers small creatures that live in the caves and a lot of times if you bring them
a gift they'll leave you be but most of the time they are very territorial so that sounds
like something similar to what you're talking about.
Yeah well these kids apart although it was a couple of hundred years ago these kids went
in just obviously they were playing about in the area and obviously came across these
kids and thought oh we'll go and explore these and they've went in.
I'm not too sure on the full extent of the story so I don't know just how it went but
from what I've been told they've went in here they've came across these little people
or whatever you want to call them they've turned to run away three of them have been
grabbed the other one has run as fast as he can basically he's been chased by these and
when he got to the entrance one of them had his foot and I can't remember whether they
said he came out with only one shoe whether he must have got away or whatever but they
apparently at the time the people in the area and stuff were like you know a lot of nonsense
and that but then it was a case of right well where's these other three kids then so they
can say they got some of the army and apparently the army came out and said that they wouldn't
go back and again they say these figures.
Yeah that's crazy I mean I've watched this channel on YouTube called night God he does
like all conspiracy theories he does all different types of like dragons creatures like everything
you could possibly think of that's just you know weird and that's these videos from all
over the world sent to him and he posts them and there was a post of these little creatures
that in a different country I can't remember what country I'll hand now I think it was
like down in like Mexico somewhere and he's this they had a little creature that they
kept and like it was a little person like I mean I mean little it was like this big
like and so I know exactly what you're talking about when you say Tommy knockers because
he actually said that name in the video so when you say that picture right in my right
in my head and these these little things like will run out and steal your stuff and like
stuff according to this video I was like wow that's pretty that's pretty crazy I would
love to see one of them you know.
Yeah I mean it train one to go into a bank you know what I mean yeah go Tommy knocker
sorry sorry.
No it's just you know when you look at the you know places that have caves and you hear
the story you know you know things that were happening around them you know and it's not
just like you know small creatures but there are stories of giant haven't been involved
with each cave you know a real popular one here in America called the Lovelock cave and
this is where allegedly they had killed a bunch of giants and you know choked them out
with by building a fire at the entrance bones haven't been found there but then the mainstream
academia tried to you know cover it up and pass it off as just a legend with no actual
evidence and yet when these evidence are found you'll see pictures of them you'll see videos
of them but then they somehow disappear.
That's a little weird huh?
Yeah it's just a little strange that that has to happen you know because there I tell
you what I've been watching there was a show I don't know if it's still on I think it
is but it's about these two brothers that travel around to try and find the existence
of giants and and yeah you know I'm talking about all over the I forget if it's on travel
channel or something like that.
Yeah with the history channel.
History channel there you go and they go out man and they there's a an instance where some
town in America I can't remember offhand but they had a giant that like they had the bones
and everything so they tried to track it down and come to find out the Smithsonian Museum
took it so when they contacted the Smithsonian so the one is like oh no we have no nothing
like that ever here but it was they have like some guy like had the evidence that's proved
that they had it it was like come on man.
Yeah well that that's like some of the legend of the Grand Canyon sites that have been
found and it's actually written about in the Arizona papers at the time I die from the
Smithsonian goes down there to investigate a claim of caves haven't been found that
had evidence of Egyptian and Asian culture influence he brings them stuff back and then
all of a sudden years later the Smithsonian is like we never heard of this guy he never
worked for us and everything that was taken out of the cave have just since then disappeared.
It's crazy how that happens around everything it seems like everything amazing I mean even
running all the way to humans to Nikola Tesla like you know what I'm saying like they just
these like governments and stuff like that just take you know all this information and
kind of hide it from us for whatever reason I don't really know but I don't know why if
they think it would be panic situation like especially for like aliens stuff like that
I mean I could see that maybe but when it comes to younger like you know little things
like not little but you know what I mean giant like that why not it's if it's our history
why not.
Well I can't.
Well it's not only that though but sorry Aaron go ahead.
Oh go ahead go ahead.
No it's not only that though it's the it's the fact that I think that the government
make it worse as far as you know aliens and giants anything they got there the government
try and say no no it doesn't exist doesn't exist and the more evidence builds up and
then to me that's frightening people more you know I mean if there is alien life out
there which we all basically believe there is and they are coming to visit then just
just say you know look they are out there they will come in from time to time but just
carry on with normal life I think the more they try to for want of a better word postpone
the actual announcement the more the more sort of intrigued and fear is building up
in people well you're saying you haven't got this but yet here's a picture of UFO you know
I mean you're saying that these don't exist but what happened at Roswell you know I mean
and people are putting two and two together and they're you know to me that's going to
cause more widespread panic when it eventually comes out than if they were just to come out
10 20 years ago and say right.
Well yeah I am in the current issue of A View Beyond I actually was very fortunate to have
somebody send me a story in actual images of report of a 1943 UFO incident that happened
in England and this report our actual Royal Air Force document that was recently released
and you know this is 1943 that this happened so you know I know Roswell is pretty popularized
because you know everybody's made movies about it.
They've had tons, tons yeah for years yeah.
And it's not just in America there are some scary cases that I've heard that come out
of Russia some that come out of the Pacific Ocean the Gulf of Mexico so it's interesting
to see what will happen when you know that dam finally breaches and there is nothing
that the government can do to cover it up.
How about this okay there's this new there was this video there was this kid on YouTube
okay and he was driving and one day on the mountainside he was filming with his camera
and he looked up and with the mountainside you could see that there was like it looked
like a giant standing on this mountain far distance and this figure was real huge and
he was filming with his camera he like took his camera out he's filming it so he took
the road up the mountain with another video I guess and a CIA officer stopped him and
said you can't come up here turn your car around basically leave.
Well then he started to get followed and in another video he caught a guy outside of his
house in a black charger with one of the lights like a police person blacked out all that
stuff and he runs outside and when he runs outside the car peels off and takes away then
out of nowhere he just says oh yeah I'm sorry I faked everything when he tries to go up
to the mountain and like out of nowhere after the mountain he just says he faked everything
and all of a sudden he's now on the missing persons report nobody knows where he is like
he's actually legit missing like so it's like did they like threaten him and then he finally
said oh this is fake and then they just killed him anyway you know what I mean like did he
keep pursuing it you know.
Well you know government secrets have always been a hot topic for controversy and conflict
within the conspiracy community and you know when you hear things like that is it true
I don't know could it have happened absolutely our government has a long history world government
all around the world has a long history of disposing of people who threaten the status
quo or threaten to expose certain secrets that could you know do away with their grip
on the position of authority that they may have.
You know one of the one similar case like that and I know a lot of people may have heard
of our project Stargate where they tried to make psychic soldiers remote viewing things
like that there was another project that is kind of you know getting some criticism but
it was referred to as the Montauk project.
And this is where they took kids and exposed them to extreme and horrific treatment to
induce that trigger that psychic ability that you know they believe we all have at some
point.
Yeah man Mike Montauk was very crazy I mean when I read into that I was I was very shocked
I mean just the things that you know that was involved with that was just absolutely
wild I mean there are so many that we can go through and talk about I mean it's still
a experiment you know just everything there's so many conspiracies in general that we could
talk about that's absolutely wild and even talking about the government too I mean you
could talk about them forever because this is more shady it's like dealing with a mobster
you never know what's going to happen you know what I mean.
But it's a big area 51 when they say well there's nothing in there but that's fine
there's nothing in there why is it so heavily guarded.
I mean why is there guys on a hill outside waiting for anybody that comes up there and
tell them turn around and go away.
If there's nothing in there you've got nothing to hide just say it's an army base and be
do with it.
But let me be devil's advocate and stick up for them for a second just think about this
for a second.
If they had technology that was alien origin okay and was way beyond advanced than us.
Everything nowadays is digital and everybody's like this with their phone trying to film
everybody and do everything.
So would you want that intelligence leaking out if some idiot with a telephone binks out
their phone because they see a UFO that they're working on or some kind of crazy technology
and all of a sudden that goes up on YouTube or online or just anywhere and another government
sees that and now knows that tech that we have and then what if it's something that
can cause a war.
So I get where they're coming from but to hide the existence of another being that's
intelligent I don't care about the whole whatever you want to do with the tech that's fine with
me but tell me that we are not the only ones here because it's common sense that we're
not with all the planets.
I mean it's just in my opinion I just think it's stupid even to question it anymore.
No it is but and saying that I'm gonna go against you again here on this one but it's
like you know to me I think they're making more of a mistake by not coming out and just
saying there's nothing there it's an army base because like you say you know you go
to where the gate is and you park your car there for 24 hours and you see just how many
people come to actually have a look.
You know I mean they talked about storming it the other year so the thing is that they're
actually I think making the general public more not so much angry more interested in
the actual base than coming out you know if there is stuff there it's not the only base
with hundreds of floors underground you have in the States you know I mean move all the
stuff move all the stuff out of there to somewhere else and then just say it's a base you know
I mean the fact is that the more they guard that place and the more that they turn people
away people's gonna think to themselves you know right well there's obviously something
here and it just piques the interest everywhere then.
See I totally gotta go get you with it you're very into Area 51 you're very into like all
that stuff and I think like that like what you think where they keep everything I believe
that that place has been long gone they chose not to use that place so long ago I mean look
at Bab Lazar everybody brings up Area 51 because they think Bab Lazar came from Area 51 when
he didn't it was from S2 which is miles away from Area 51 so people mistake this so much
and Area 51 gets all this hype the government one would have moved all of the alien technology
if they had it out of Area 51 the minute they heard someone was gonna storm the base number
one but they moved that stuff years ago because they knew right after someone leaks it they
have to get it rid of it immediately so that if someone does come and check they're not
gonna find it.
Exactly but then that's what I'm saying so if that's the case then why are they still
guarding it why are they still hiding?
No it's not they have to guard it because it's a military base.
Yeah but they're still...
They have to technically guard it because like no one's allowed on a military base unless
you're military.
No but again with that from what I've learned on it even if you are military sometimes you
still don't get in you have to have special clearance.
Oh yeah it's not like a regular military you know what I'm saying but I mean I get what
you're saying though like why is it why is everything so secret why does it have to be
that way and I don't understand that either but I do also play the devil's advocate like
okay I kind of understand what they're coming from but to why do us?
Go ahead Eric.
There is a thing and I've met some exceptional individuals who practice magic or illusion
because when I think about Area 51 the one thing I always think of is misdirection.
Yes.
What I mean not to say that Area 51 doesn't play a significant role in the UFO culture
or even in its actual involvement with it but I also feel like sometimes because I mean
you look at government operations throughout the past even back when technology wasn't
that good governments have done exceptionally well in keeping secret so the idea that Area
51 would just turn out to be kind of a flop and it's out and everybody knows about it
seems a little unusual so I think that the government just kind of pushes that idea on
Area 51 to keep our interest in that rather than somewhere else because there are other
places around the US that would serve a much more strategic location than the middle of
a dried up lake that can be seen from the satellite view.
I agree.
Again I still think that Area 51 at some point you know like I said did serve a significant
you know part of the operation in you know intelligence and reverse engineering and things
like that I just think that the big secret the big big stuff that we all want to know
about it's not there anymore.
I mean you're absolutely right I think that same thing I think that it's all so I have
family in the background being a little loud if you could hear them but anyway I think
you're absolutely right like there's 100% I think you're right I think it's all misdirection
I think that people have been so long misled about that one place and other places that
have been so significant I believe that once that significant event happens they're so
smart and intelligent they move it they get that out of there because they know for years
on end someone's going to come to that place I mean it's just common sense I mean look
how many people still go to Area 51 overnight and go up on the mountains and try to peek
in and you know they're not capturing anything but it's the thrill of it and you know it's
like oh let's go you know.
Right I do I will say I do know for a fact that they do have guarded aerial testing out
there.
Yeah.
I don't necessarily think that you know like what their anti-gravity technology I don't
think they would test that there but I do feel like they do test some of the stuff they've
reversed engineer with certain aerodynamics or certain materials or even propulsion system
that work on physical principles I think they though they test that Area 51 just because
it is so wide open you got a clear line of view for miles so it's easy to observe.
Yeah Area 51 that's one of those places where you know something happened there but you
can't put your finger on it and whatever evidence was there you can't get to it anymore.
Yeah I meant to that I meant that I totally agree totally agree our viewer Kelly our brother
Steve O's wife says government tries to hide the truth from all of us but we all know the
truth the facts of different dimensions reality spirits and other forms of beings are out
there so why try and hide it when we know we know spiritual beings of any tier will
guide us to use different types of D ices or devices gateways portals mirrors and other
means to show us they are here she's absolutely right I mean we have all the evidence when
we go out and we investigate I mean I do a lot of spirit box work and you know I have
multiple videos that I've got captured with just undeniable proof that something is talking
back do I know it's spirit no but I just know from what they tell me that their spirits
do you not think that you know say if there is I mean I honestly believe and I know that
but do you not think with these other beings that are out there you know and instead of
you know painting them to be not necessarily the bad guys and stuff but you know I think
as a as a as much as a race really I think we we could learn probably learn so much from
them as I believe they're visiting to try and learn off us they're obviously coming
from a from a lot longer distance away than we can get to so straight away there's there's
something that we could learn off them like not so much time travel but you know to be
able to travel at speeds that we only think are you know mythical there's there's a lot
of there's a lot of things that that we could actually learn from them you know and instead
of instead of just sending you know planes or or whatever kind of things they're making
up to to have a look at what it is I think they're they're paint sometimes I think the
government paints it in a way to the public that no I mean no no sorry I wasn't trying
to apologies I was just gonna say I was gonna say what Kelly said think about this man if
there's other dimensions right that we know about because through string theory all this
type of stuff from through science that we believe there's other dimensions parallel
universes all this type of stuff what if as an investigator what if when we're communicating
with these devices and we are communicating through frequency vibration whatever it may
be there's these devices using these devices like you know hack radios spirit PSP seven
style like that and then also apps certain things what if these if these beings are dimensional
what if we're not talking to a spirit what if we're talking to another dimensional being
that we don't even know what it is because whatever we're talking to has intelligence
to talk back with intelligence to hear us say it sees us to knows what we're thinking
half the time because if you think about it have you ever got an answer right before you
were set it like the whole question have you ever had that in a diversity not yeah I actually
have a video on YouTube of that happening see that's awesome I want to actually can
I pull that up yeah you want to go on to YouTube okay hold on let me share this quick okay
I'm gonna see if I can pull it up directly and send you the link so you don't have to
search for it hold on oh no it's gonna make me leave the site if I try to for some reason
present my thing yeah I mean you can well I can tell you exactly what it was and hold
on oh man yeah I gotta go on my chrome studies I'll have to do that after I apologize here
and that's right we're gonna have you on anyway because there's a lot I want to talk to you
about but yeah so talk a little bit about that video so I mean I was telling I was saying
right before you're asked the whole question you you know would get an answer so I'm wondering
if these things know our thoughts you know what I mean I mean so tell us a little about
that video there there's a good possibility for that and the video is myself and Neil
one of the co-founders for night watch and we were at a place called Carlott Avery Carlott
Avery is a wildlife management area beautiful place but it's got a really messed up history
a double murder in 1912 a shootout between gangsters and state police in 1954 a six-year-old
boy was kidnapped and beat to death with a tire iron in 1980 a woman was burned alive
in a domestic dispute in 1989 there was a body found out there in 2020 and for years
this place has had a reputation for being a potential body dump site for local gangsters
or biker gang during the 90s and we were out there this was right at right around Halloween
because in a two-week period we were out there five times doing some investigating getting
some unbelievable evidence that we would not get at any other time of the year one of those
was an EM field that surrounded the entire vehicle level five non-stop wouldn't back
off and that's what the vehicle off and it moved but the case that we're talking about
is we were doing a kind of like a yes-no session she got an EM detector that he built and he
set it up and if you know it's like a proximity sensor you get close to it the alarm goes
on and we were using it as a yes-no device and he was saying you know can you make this
go off it would go off can you turn it off it would turn off and just as he was about
to say can you turn it back on it came right back on oh my gosh yeah see and I'm wondering
I'm telling you because it's either that or my other theory about it is that these things
knock and read our mind what if it's us what if we're psychically predicting but manifesting
our thoughts into this device through frequency somehow that we don't even understand yet
and it's I mean it's all theory of course but I mean I do my personal belief I do believe
I believe you know well there's plenty of merit to that start off with the dimensional
I actually have a theory and I wish the technology was available to prove this but and this deal
specifically with residual haunting when you look at religion and physics they all have
a similar idea about different levels of existence different dimension and what if if you have
a timeline and they all flow in the same way but there's something that happens so traumatic
so impactful that it creates a pinch point and what's happening is what when you see
these residual hauntings you're seeing a light pass through like a CD skip which would explain
why it's always the same person doing the same thing at the same time in the same place
now you're actually seeing something that happened on multiple levels but here's the
question now you said residual so are you saying that it's just residual energy that's
left over basically that we're seeing a playback of this time in space basically right or not
just in our reality but in other real here but is regular spirits though are do you believe
that they're also a pinch in time or what's your theory on them when it comes to inner
intelligence spirit I think those are actually one of two things one is that they're actually
in the spirit of whoever that's left behind us communicating with us in real time or you
know by maybe a slight time delay because I mean we've all seen it happen sometimes
they happen before we get the question out or sometimes they'll answer the question much
later or something that we mentioned before something that I've written an article about
the possibility of aggregars or PK entities things that are created by our own innate
psychic abilities something that we project which in that case if it's an aggregate that's
usually something that's pretty easy to you know dispel but PK entities are a lot tougher
because that's connected to something that happened connected to a very deep psychological
trauma and in order to get rid of that you have to have that person you know address
whatever that trauma may be come to terms with something in order to be able to break
that PK entities connection to the person and as far as psychic ability is in all of
that yeah I am convinced that we had a much deeper connection and awareness of that and
that as time went on between mainstream religion and ruling classes they began to tell us that
it's nonsense and that centuries and centuries of being told that it's nonsense that it's
just who we or that it's all fake we've managed to convince ourselves or trick ourselves into
thinking that we don't have it when in actuality we do no I completely agree with that man
and I think that you know a lot of thousands of years through religion and stuff has stopped
us from finding out our true potential as well expanding consciousness and I think now
is a big time in the world in the whole world where consciousness is raising I don't know
why I just feel that way but I feel like a lot of people I'm not thinking that way because
people are woke or whatever this whole crap movement thing is I don't really I don't really
talk about that but I'm talking about woke as in your consciousness is being raised and
I believe that the whole earth is going through some kind of shift right now in that consciousness
because there's a lot of people that are waking up and seeing this side of things actually
starting to explore it more I mean look how many teams last 10 years have just started
to boom I mean we went from a thousand teams and maybe 2002 till like 20 million teams
so it's like right so glad to see people getting into this but all these different theories
and I mean we can go on for hours about them because they're so fascinating like I love
what you said about the pinch in time because that makes so much sense like if we are on
what Einstein and everybody always talked about this time space reality and you know
you make that it's like making that pinch and I can just totally understand what you're
saying like a CD skip that was a great way to describe that so I appreciate that.
Thank you.
I just want to say there if I can just touch on something sorry I had an MOM a minute ago
I just want to go back to what we're talking about for one more question but do you not
think if there is well I keep saying if there is but these beings and different universes
and different planets that house life and stuff if they are able to make you know things
that we can't make for instance you know we should be using that at the Arab Boundaries
and it might sound far out but say for instance right that they're telling us that global
warming is destroying the earth right now basically in an ideal world for want of a
better word we would then move to another planet right but we can't do that because
we can't leave our solar system at a minute and there's not another planet.
Not yet.
Yeah not yet.
With the help of Space Force we can do anything.
It might sound funny but what I'm saying is if these interdimensional beings can make
things like you know gateways and portals and stuff to transport them from where they
are to us should we not be using them to try and get one made from where we are to another
planet I know it's going to sound really far out but another planet somewhere that will
house life if this planet is in danger of being totally destroyed.
Well a couple of things with that one and this is not a dig at the global warming position
we want to get that out right away but one thing that we have to understand is that you
know our planet along with the solar system has always gone through some of these most
violent and dynamic changes so the global warming while I think we have a hand in it
we're not we're not responsible for it it's not our fault but when it comes to being able
to reach out to other planets I have to ask are they really making those ships travel
all that distance physically or you know as we talked about with portals is there a technology
that's available not to us but to other life out there where they're able to fold space
being able to travel without moving.
This would explain how some of these you know if you ascribe to the alien theory this would
explain how so many of them are able to travel such massive distance in such a short amount
of time because it would take us an entire lifetime if not more just to get from Earth
to Pluto our life expectancy is not that good.
So how would the aliens pull this off successfully they would have to find some way to surpass
time and that would be either being faster than light or folding space more or less.
Yeah because my argument in this has been and AJ will tell you you watch any of these
movies right and for instance right you play do you play Call of Duty?
I have in the past I haven't recently.
Okay so if you play on the zombies game of it on the map and they have teleporters right
now where did the idea for these for instance come from it wasn't just someone sitting
in front of a computer one day and thought I know I'll make this thing up and I'll make
it look like it'll go up with all these springs and wires and stuff and I'll call it a teleporter
you know to me these things and whether it's in Area 51 or wherever these things are being
prototyped somewhere and this is where the ideas are coming from because although some
people can be smart but I don't think you're not smart.
Listen you have this theory that like all these interstellar movies that where they
come up with these ideas and it's the government and yes I totally believe your theory on that
but I just want to say I've been wanting a coat that bakes bacon or grilled cheeses but
I haven't got my wish and I have that on I can make that into a little movie.
So where did that idea come from?
The point is that if they are putting these things in movies and games and stuff like
that the idea in my opinion had to come from somewhere this is not me being crazy Robin
this is me.
Oh it is.
Well yeah I suppose but this is me and what I totally believe in these things don't just
pop into someone's head and a name for them just pop into someone's head and think right
we'll do that.
I think there's things like this that are being made or at least being prototyped and
if that's the case and they can do that who's to say that this isn't also as well as I agree
with you Aaron this isn't also how these beings are traveling because maybe they have this
technology it's probably like an analog TV to us but then it's probably old hat now but
maybe this is how they're traveling.
You know who I want to get on this show really badly and if he's going to he'll probably
not see this but if he did see this through one of our friends I want to have on Dr. Greer
come on because Dr. Greer and SETI that whole group even the people from around the world
the things they've captured by doing these meditations calling in these beings he has
a photo of an alien standing behind someone and the person was healed I think it was I
don't know if it was their knee or something in the like from the photo that they had with
the knee was healed or whatever but there was a guy that was with them that had on his
hearing here healed he was deaf from like since he was a child or whatever for many
years and he ended up hearing again right after this experience and I think that was
the picture they captured with this alien and when you zoom in and see this aliens head
it's like a triangle it's crazy looking and I really would love to get him on the show
because having a bunch of these conversations we've talked before with a guest and I believe
it was Jesse Marcel III who said that yes these disinformation officers did go to Hollywood
and did want to really they have released videos about it being a you know like a national
security type thing with all these movies like Mars Attacks and things like that like
so I think I'm pretty sure that was during that episode when he said to us like disinformation
officers do you know obviously try to put it out to make it easier on us if something
wants to happen.
Well you know just to kind of you know give your thoughts on credibility Robin there is
a famous case and it was actually aired on ancient aliens during World War II Hitler
had established a group called the Ananarbe this was an elite force part of the military
they also had influences in the way politics played but they were their core root was all
in the supernatural and they had several experiments going one of them was known as the De Glocke
which translates to the bell and for years nobody could figure out what the thing was
that you know a lot of people thought it was a some sort of anti-gravitational drive technology
some people thought it was a teleportation device whatever when Hitler was at the end
of his reign when the Nazi Party was falling when Germany was about to surrender this experiment
disappeared.
Nobody knows what happened.
Thirty some years later in 1950 there was a device or a machine that was caught flying
around Kekberg Pennsylvania.
Now what's interesting about this is the way they describe the Kekberg UFO is the exact
same shape as De Glocke from 30 years prior.
The theory is that when they realized that they're about to be caught they tried to
launch this program in a last ditch effort to either make it a success or hide it and
something went wrong and it snapped from 1930s Germany to 1950s USA because when they said
it crashed they said in Kekberg it was flying around like it didn't know like the pilot
didn't know how to control it and it ended up crashing.
The US government showed up took everything away and the story Kekberg Pennsylvania still
has this event that celebrates that day to this day.
Wow really?
Oh that is so cool.
The question is do you know what day it is because we have to go out there.
I can find out.
Oh that would be cool Aaron we gotta go out there that'd be awesome.
It's kind of like the story I was watching a program on TV.
No it's not the soap ops we don't want to hear about your soap operas.
No it's not a soap opera it's not an adult movie either.
No what was it was a thing about this plane that had taken off I don't know whether that
program manifest is based on it but it was about a plane that had taken off from.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah I think it was taken off from New York and like 10 years later it went missing and
10 years later it landed in Peru or something.
Yeah I think it was down there somewhere near Miami somewhere down there because when they
landed the guy got so freaked out that he just took the plane back into the sky again
and took off.
Yeah I remember that story because I just watched a video on YouTube about it and they
were saying that the guy like he like freaked out because he was like what are you talking
about this many years went by and they had like police waiting for them on the tarmac
and he just took off.
He took off I think it was everyone in it too.
There was one from New York and Miami but there was also one and it was way off course
it was somewhere in South America it might have been Columbia or something like that
and it landed and like I think what it was I think what it was sorry I think what it
was if I remember correctly it was coming in the land and it radioed through clearance
to land as planes do and the guy basically in the air traffic control I think anyway
had looked and thought well this plane's not on our on our manifest for today's incoming
and outgoing and stuff so Wiley I think he had it circling above the airport and he'd
basically asked someone you know look this plane isn't due to come here today and they've
done a bit of research and they actually realized that there was like 10 or 15 years since this
plane had taken off and they they'd given I think I'm trying to get it correctly now
I think what happened was they gave it clearance to land because they wanted to see this for
themselves that this was the plane and they gave it clearance to land and it came down
and landed and I think it was still taxiing and the air traffic control it said something
along the lines of you know do you realize now you've been missing for 15 years and this
that and the other and apparently it just turned around on the thing and took off again
yeah there's several stories like that and I actually think that there's a slight possibility
that that may be what happened to the Malaysia airliner that disappeared a few years back
they still have no idea where that thing is today well see that see that now I took a
lot of interest in that that to me I don't think that flew off course and crashed into
the sea no you know what there's actually a theory that's going around on YouTube man
okay and I just watched this today too that's so weird that you're talking about this that
they beat the air pilot that they thought was in they thought the air pilot was in on
this okay and they landed the plane somewhere because okay where the plane went missing
they said that they ended up going south when they went south they booked on this they parked
on this airplane after they went missing off the radar the air pilot was in on it according
to this theory and bunch of gangsters basically killed they went up to 45,000 feet for 15
minutes killed the passengers like basically docked at this island they took all the cargo
because the cargo was worth over a million dollars I guess that was on board with people
and everything included this is just a theory but all this stuff and then they put this
on YouTube and I tell you what some of the stuff that they had on there made you think
like you know what what if that did happen because I don't really know anything about
altitude or planes or anything and why he would survive and we wouldn't but I mean I
just found that really wild like what if something like that happened because why did they not
find it I mean if they crashed in the ocean I get it there was no debris field there was
nothing there's something flowing yeah now the thing is right here's another one for
it right the if that that pilot's in control of the plane right nobody else apart from
the co-pilot and him can control that plane it can't be controlled from the ground it
can't be it can't be landed from the ground it can't be controlled right so if that pilot
was suicidal as they say he is and I'm not trying to upset anybody who's watching who
might have relatives or I'm not trying to upset anybody but if if that was the case
and that pilot was suicidal and he was going to fly that plane south across the ocean until
it ran out of fuel yeah why do you have to turn your transponder off would he not get
and no offense I don't mean to sound nasty but he not get more of a thrill out of having
the all the air traffic controls and different areas knowing where they are knowing that
there's nothing they can do you know because worst case scenario is they're going to send
someone up to shoot it down it's going to come down anyway so the thing is to me the
stuff that all the things on it that were all turned off strategically might I say turned
off one after another at certain certain to me they were turned off and that plane was
landed somewhere.
See you know that's what I'm saying like this theory that they were talking about about
you know this pilot after it went off the radar they went up to 45,000 feet killed these
passengers and then came down dock this plane because of the cargo that was worth inside
of it on everything that was worth inside the plane and you know these monsters or whatever
got rid of these bodies and the weird part about it is these families called these phones
for five days straight their phones were on which doesn't make any sense because if your
phone crashed in the ocean or if you crashed on land even stay on land your phone may survive
just set but in ocean your phone is not going to survive I mean maybe if you have an apple
and it's at the bottom of the sea I don't know if you still get service if you do hell
yeah Verizon or AT&T but I mean you know I highly doubt you're gonna you know what I
mean especially with an impact on heavy.
Yeah well that there are just so many variables to that case that you know this is going to
be one of old mysteries like flight 19 the Britannia.
But do you not think with the technology these days there's no reason why they shouldn't
be able to find that?
No there isn't.
And this guy that's found on that reunion island off Africa this guy that found the
piece that was supposedly off the wing with the same serial numbers who's not to say that
if this plane was commandeered and landed somewhere certain parts were taken off it
thrown into the ocean let them wash up somewhere that that that.
Well I mean it's you know it's a good way to mislead people mislead investigators.
It's a debris field if that goes into the ocean even if most of it sinks to the bottom
there's bound to be a debris field there must be.
Now as far as the idea of having the technology to find answers for as pretty and fun as our
gadgets are I am not convinced that we are anywhere near the level that we need to be
to be able to you know put a stamp at a definite yes or no on certain situations.
A good example of that would be our technology in interpreting ancient data.
I mean we have this notion that ancient Egypt or ancient Sumer is the beginning of civilization
and that's been widely accepted by mainstream academia.
The problem is there is now growing evidence that there was civilization that predates
that by as much as 10,000 years.
So and the reason we don't have evidence of that is you got to think about the comet
impact or the series of comet impact that wiped out 60% of the megafauna that they found
in Greenland.
The glaciers nothing survived the weight of a glacier so if there was any civilization
that ended up being bowled over by a glacier of course we're not going to find evidence
of course we're not going to see human remains or ruins.
Same thing with massive flooding if anybody would if you talk to anybody that's ever
survived a tsunami they'll tell you just how devastating a tsunami is and a tsunami
is a puddle ripple compared to some of the flooding that had taken place in history.
So with everything when people say don't you think we have the technology you know our
technology is great but it is not going to get us the answers we need just yet.
No no I agree.
I totally agree 110%.
I just think about just before we off a subject while we're still on that missing Malaysia
Airlines flight is again with the conspiracies why were they searching in the complete wrong
area when they were constantly being told you're searching in the wrong area but they
continue to search there and it seems to me from what I can make out of programs that
I've watched that the search away from the area that it could be until the battery in
the black box ran out.
Yeah that whole situation along with give me along with Roswell and with anything that
we encounter that you know are always trying to be discredited or disproved it's the same
thing mainstream media does.
They come down to one thing sell the story even if it's fake sell it and that's basically
what we have here with the Malaysia case.
I really think that you know they were looking in the wrong place just so they can have some
sort of groundwork for a story that they could you know feed the people and just completely
mislead them.
Yeah because they made a point out of mentioning quite a bit about the battery life in the
black box and the transponder you know because I think it was 30 days or something once there's
something like that where it was given like a constant ping out and if they go over the
top of it they can pick that up.
Yeah and those black boxes are for where we're at technologically they're pretty damn tough.
Yeah that's why I was wondering why like they haven't even found it you know what I'm saying
they haven't even got anything like that's why it doesn't make any sense.
Go back to the earth france one that flew from Brazil and crashed in the Atlantic it
was found what but then a couple of days.
Yeah.
They found it because of the debris failure.
And that was a large debris field to cover.
Yeah so I mean you can't tell me that that thing went into the water and didn't leave
one trace.
Right.
It doesn't make sense.
No.
I don't know if you actually know or not Aaron but there's another another quick case I'll
say to you about the the professional footballer that was flying from France to Cardiff and
Wales did you hear about that one.
No it was a couple of years ago now it was an Argentine footballer it sang for Cardiff
and Wales from a French team.
Actually it flown it come over to Cardiff it signed his contract and stuff.
He flew back to France for the weekend to get whatever pieces he needed and say goodbye
to his teammates from over there and then he was flying back over.
Now he flew in a little private plane and the plane crashed in an English Channel.
His body was found inside the plane.
The pilot's body wasn't there and he still hasn't been found.
And not only that but apparently the pilot A wasn't allowed to fly any passengers and
take money which he did.
Apparently he wasn't allowed to fly at night because he was colour blind and it was flying
at night.
There was a lot of things that basically this guy should not have been flying this plane
and it was I don't know it's hard one but the found wreckage of the plane within I think
it was a week or two weeks they dove down they got the footballer's body out of the
plane the pilot.
Yeah a lot of times when you hear the cases of a key person being missing most of the
time it's just a fluke they fell out and were washed away or whatever.
But then you have the rare cases where it's like the locked room mystery how did the dead
body end up inside of a locked room and he didn't commit suicide.
You know so you see those cases a lot with aeronautical instances that flight being one
of them Malaysia flight flight 19 there was another flight that happened in Alaska.
Senator disappeared.
Now the prevailing theory that he crashed but again no hits in the black box no wreckage
nothing you know and it's not just with planes you get that with boat.
The number of boats that disappear in key locations around the world not just the Bermuda
Triangle but in key locations around the world should be enough to make all of us whether
we're paranormal investigators signed to government officials it should make us all take a closer
look at what's happening out there.
And the reason why you know I with this magazine I really want to try to get all of us coming
together and put our theory together and if we cut you know if we end up talking with
a loud enough voice somebody somewhere is going to be like okay let's take a look and
validate everything we believe in even if it turns out that we're all wrong and it was
something else at least we know because we took the time to look at it.
Exactly as like you say with all these boats that go missing yet they can send a submarine
down two and a half miles underwater and find a Titanic but they can't find these boats
that sank in water that was nowhere near as deep.
Absolutely I agree what you're saying Aaron like we should definitely you know have everyone
on like from that comes on your you know magazine all those theories man can definitely make
a difference and I really do believe that one day we're gonna have the science community
look at this whole field and realize that you know what there was something to this
whether it's energy whether it's spirits dimensional beings whatever it may be this field will
definitely get looked at if more people keep waking up to this field but real quick I want
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Yeah basically right I know isn't that crazy right I know I was thinking about that I'm
like what if one of our brothers wins you know or like you know one of our sisters wins
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