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I'm gonna pick my bed. That's
what it is. Laura. Laura Rick
yeah. We want to give a shout
out to Laurie Laurie. Thank you
so much Dorsey for coming on.
Um. Dorsey anybody but Laurie.
Uh so I want to uh I want to
ask you a question Rick. So I
didn't get to come on the first
time obviously. So I didn't get
to obviously hear a lot of it.
I had to go back and watch but
I want to ask you first. I want
to ask you a question. I know
you've you know you've been a
part of many awesome movies. Um
what was one of your favorite
movies or what is your favorite
movie that you worked on or
part of? What was one of them?
Uh probably Hatchet part two.
Okay. I actually did all four
hatchets which you wouldn't
know because there are times I
doubled some actors and I was
assistant stunt coordinator on
other ones but I actually got
to play a part in part two and
I was a part of the other one.
Uh but yeah it's uh it's really
fun working with Adam Green who
is the director because you
know he's not your typical
director. I mean he's a great
director but I mean he's so
excited when he gets the scene
he wants. It's like oh yeah you
know and it's really cool to
work with somebody like that.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
That is that is a great quality
to have especially as a director
like for sure. And my best
friend was actually uh the star
of the movie. Uh in in the
movie, I actually get chainsawed
in half. Nice. This way from
the crotch up. Uh wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, hold
on. That part, that was you in
that part? Yeah. Oh my I didn't
even recognize you now that you
said that now because I would
have been looking really well
for it, isn't it? It's great
but I'm just saying like I I
didn't have this when I did it.
No, yeah, that's probably the
best part of it. That is great
though. That is absolutely
great. So, tell me, what was it
like working with the effects
and all that kind of stuff with
like uh the blood and the gore
and everything? That must have
been awesome. Well, in this
case, I have a great story
about the blood. Uh there's
another guy, Colton, Colton
Dunn who was like the uh the
comic element of of the movie
and the idea is we're supposed
to be hunting down Victor
Crowley in this swamp and
there's only two real hunters.
There's one who's also in my
group. This thing, Hollywood
Ghost Hunters, that, that, that,
but uh he and I are the only
two real hunters. Everybody
else is out for the bounty,
right? And they don't know what
they're doing mostly. Yeah. So,
that when uh Kane comes out
with this eight foot long
chainsaw out of the things, uh
Colton hides behind me, right?
He's like shooting into the
air. He's shooting the ground.
He's shooting everything but
Victor Crowley and I'm shooting
the ground, right? Well, my my
gun jams and I'm trying to
unjam and he sticks the chainsaw
between my legs and because
Colton's hiding right behind me
goes between his legs and he
lifts us up in the air and just
goes and we go like this and
fall apart, right? Um but when
they were getting ready to show
that, obviously, there's gotta
be a lot of blood flying around,
right? Especially the effects
guys came up. They have a blood
cannon. It's like a big pipe,
you know, that just blows, you
know, blood all over you and uh
because we're going up on on
the things, you know, we, it
started low, went up high, you
know, it started high, went up,
you know, it just covered
everything but uh when the the
effects guy came up and he goes
like this, he goes, how much
blood should I put in there?
And I looked at him and I said,
I'm gonna put it in there and
he goes, I fill it to the top,
right? So, I mean, blood is
flying everywhere and when they
cut, I mean, Adam really liked
the scene. Uh I saw I saw a
thing. I don't know. I said it
was one of the top ten glorious
deaths in movie history in
horror movie history. So, that
was pretty cool but uh after we
were done, they had a shower
because obviously, you're
covered in blood. You're not
gonna go get into your leather
shoes. Yeah. So, you have to
you have to use barbersol
shaving cream to get the stuff
off, right? I mean, so, I've
got all these cans of shaving
cream and I go and I get to
take my clothes off and this,
I'm not exaggerating even a
little bit. Every single inch
of my body was covered with the
blood between my toes. I mean,
I had shoes and pants. Every
place on me was covered. I mean,
it was amazing. It took me
like a week to get okay enough
to go get my car. Wow. It has
been through. I ran out of
barbers. I mean, it was like,
uh I was just about to say to
yourself, did you run out of
barbers? So, you know, cuz
that's a barbershop bath right
there. Yeah, you gotta scrub.
It just you just to go squirt.
It just goes on. You know, you
come out about four pounds
lighter cuz all your skin just
went down the drain. Oh yeah.
Yeah. I mean, uh you know,
really enjoyed being at you too.
We went down to New Orleans and
you know, we had had a really
great time and some of the
people in there like Tom
Holland, you know, the creator
of Chucky and all that good
stuff. He was in it and uh two
of my best friends, Kane and
R.A. were in it. You know,
little Danielle Harris who is uh
was the co-star and she's she's
just you know, you can't scare
her. I mean, you know, let me
at it. I mean, and she's
fearless but she's also super
cool. So, that that was a great
movie to work on. Excellent.
That sounds great. Go ahead,
Robin cuz I have too many. I'm
just gonna say, so, anybody who
wants to who wants to go ghost
hunting with Rick uh and part
of his group. I mean, there's
there's no pressure there. You
know, go ghost hunting with him.
I mean, he's a leather face so
nothing to worry about. Well, I
gotta tell you, you know,
sometimes people ask me what
it's like ghost hunting with
them and I said, well, you
know, it's two ways of looking
at it. I said, you know, we'll
be in a dark, scary place and
I'll think, yeah, we're walking
down this long hallway. I'm up
ahead of him and I'm like, yeah,
got those guys in my back and
then I'll then I'll go, wait a
minute. It's Jason Voorhees and
Leatherface. This ain't gonna
happen. You gotta get too big
guys back there watching your
back but on the other hand,
see, you need to have Michael
Myers as well. Yeah, we haven't
actually been able to ghost hunt
together for quite a while
because when we started the
Hollywood Ghost Hunters, we all
lived right here and now moved
to another state. Uh RA lives
in Pennsylvania and everybody's
busy. I mean, it's hard to get
everybody to hook up. I mean,
it's it's it's getting harder
and you know, like, you know,
when they have time free, I'm
in Scotland. So, exactly.
That's what I was gonna ask you
about your Scottish trip but
before I do, anybody that's
watching or will watch, please
do check out Hollywood Ghost
Hunters. Absolutely fantastic.
Uh really are but Rick, tell us
about your uh your trip to
Scotland lately. Oh, I've been
there for a while. I've got
friends over there. I'm
actually uh a lifetime member,
honorary member of uh Scottish
Paranormal and Scottish
Paranormal is actually a great
group. I mean, they are they're
as good a group as I've ever
been with um and Anubis
Paranormal is pretty good too.
Um but yeah, I go over there
and I ghost hunt with them a
lot and so they have ends at
places that I can't get in. So,
you know, I just kind of tag
along with them and I'll be
there. Um a friend of mine,
Brian Harley has premier
paranormal in uh Scotland and
he and I had gone to gone to a
bunch of places and he talked
to his friend Mandy Fellows who
was you know uh with Anubis
Paranormal in England and
there's also Gary Fields. I
think you guys might know him.
He's a psychic. He used to be a
medium. Yeah. And they invited
they invited us to come over and
have a great great time. Well,
it turns out that a friend of
mine was the uh manager of the
Real Mary Kings Close which is
very famous place in Edinburgh.
Uh it's actually part of the
city underground and it is
haunted. It's very haunted and
he asked me one time, he goes,
Rick, um you know, why why
don't you bring you know, some
of your friends here and ghost
hunt here and I said, but the
prices you charge me because I
won't charge anything. I said,
I'm going to bring you some of
the guys from Scottish
Paranormal and got a couple of
them to come. I got a couple
of from Premier Paranormal and
um I think three or four from
Anubis because they were all
driving together, you know,
from England and I surprised
them when they got there. You
know, we were all standing
outside. I said, right. I told
you I wanted you to have a
pair of unity hunt and they
said, yeah, and I said, well,
here's what we're going to do.
First half of the hunt, none of
you can hunt with the people in
the group. Um just by you know,
there was more of Anubis. They
did have like two at a time,
you know, but everybody got a
chance to ghost hunt with the
other groups. It turned out
great. I mean, um we had some
really weird stuff happening
down there, you know, I I tell
you what that that's great that
you uh that you chose to do
that like with the teams
because I think that's so
important to do in this field
and the reason why is the way
that we're doing this is really
terrible and I think that we
would really need to be more
pair of unity because there's
so much competition and stuff
in this field for some weird
reason. It's not even
technically looked at by
science but yet we have some
more competition in the science
field I feel like but it's so
great that you did that because
it gives an opportunity for
each person to experience
working with somebody else and
getting to know them without
being with their group of you
know, people. So, I think that
that's great that you did that
and that's really awesome. I
mean all the trips out there
must be great but that one had
to be pretty cool. Yeah, that
one because I was staying in
Edinburgh. I just had to walk
down the street. So, that was
that was really cool. I'd
actually ghost on it in there
with only the manager and I
that was that was pretty cool.
I mean, you know, in my book,
I have a book called Ghost
Believe in Me and the first
thing is that I only have one
superpower and that's that
people are really nice to me
and I was talking to a guy,
Billy, who owns the Birdcage
Theater and I said, you and I
are going to ghost hunt
together and you're not going
to charge me and I'll tell you
why and I told him, he just
laughed. He goes, come on out.
Right. So, he and I he and I
ghost on the Birdcage and by
the way, Birdcage Theater, if
you ever get to the United
States is is a really good spot
and what's really strange is I
was at the time, I was at the
poker room. Now, the poker room
is really famous for like 8
gills million people getting
killed because this was at the
time of Wyatt Earp and Doc
Holiday and all those guys who
actually used to hang around in
their life but one of the
claims to fame is they have the
world's longest continuous
running poker game in history
and it was over 8 years long
and that doesn't mean when they
close, they started up the next
game and it was on for over 8
years, right? When somebody
would drop out, somebody would
jump in and right next to it
was where the girls of the
evening plied their trade and
when I say right next to it
within maybe 12 feet where the
rooms, right? This guy would
make a lot of money and he'd
go to that room, you know, so
it was I'd left my camera, my
camera down there, left it
running and I went walking up
to the door. I didn't hear
anything and I walked back up.
I said, did you kill somebody
and I didn't hear anything. So,
when I got home, it was so
weird because I had nine pieces
of equipment because it's a big
place. I'd set up all over the
place within 45 minutes.
Everything was dead. I mean,
that place. Wow. Yeah. Every
single piece of equipment died
including my flashlight. I
mean, come on. Leave that
place. Um about a month later,
I'm going through the footage
of stuff and I didn't expect to
catch anything because
everything got turned off,
obviously, but I'm I'm
listening to this thing and I
I hear me and Billy coming back
down the stairs to the poker
room and we're talking and
right in the right in the
middle of it, there's a voice
with a Hispanic accent which is
not surprising because most of
the people that were in
the room were not listening
because they're Mexico and the
United States is like, you
know, they're right together.
So, but anyway, I'm sitting
there. We walked back down
there. Me and Billy are
talking and we hear a voice go
I had to right which is
obvious that the answer did
you kill somebody? Yeah. So, I
sent it to Billy. I was going
down to do another hunt down in
Arizona. Another place in
Arizona. We're doing a live
stream and I said, Billy, can I
get in there and listen to I
said, yeah, I can. I said,
yeah, he says, well, he says,
if you could get here by 530
and get you in for half an
hour between the shows, I
said, that's all I need. He
says, where are you? I said,
right down the street, right?
Because I live in LA. I was on
my way there. So, anyway, I
went in and you know how long
it took me to get another
answer from the same guy? Oh,
go on. 38 seconds. 38 seconds.
I sat and sat my recorder down
and I said, hey, I was here
before and I'd asked if you'd
ever been there and I said I
had to. I said, uh just
wondering, did you ever see
anybody else get killed? Yes.
Wow. So, I mean, the bird cage
has a very talkative guy down
by the poker room. So, if
anybody gets there, check it
out. Wow. That's you see, I've
always thought I wanted to go
down there. I have to get down
there for real because there's
so many great places in the US
but you know, like we said
before like, you know, overseas
like where UK is and Scotland
is and I mean, that's a story
that's hurt to my heart because
I live in the US but I tell
you, places like the bird cage,
I mean, that right there, that
story just makes me want to go
there even more. I mean, I wish
I can go there and rent it out
for a week to be honest. better
than the lottery. I'll never be
able to afford that but you
know, if I was able to, I'd love
to. Yeah. And you know, you
know, the difference between
ghost hunting in in the UK and
in the US. We get things that
are pretty intense but not to
the level of what goes on in
the UK. I mean, when we get
some ghostly stuff going on
there, it like slaps you in the
head. It's not like, oh, well,
maybe this might be something.
I mean, it's you can't miss it.
Matter of fact, speaking about
getting slapped in the head, I
got slapped in the head at
Balgo castle. Something slapped
me in the back of the head. By
the way, speaking about
getting slapped in the head, I
was at Balgo castle while we
were at Balgo. It was Jay
Blumke and Kathleen Burns who
were, you know, pretty high up
in the food chain at Ghost
Hunters and Jay also started
Ghost Mine and you know, he's
he's done quite a bit. He's he's
his him and Kathleen are as
have as good a resume as for
ghost hunting as anybody there
is and we did this one ghost
hunting. We're also friends
with the Laird, you know, of
the of the castle. So, anyway,
when we went there, we had a
something that happened. We
filmed it and it's going to be
on. I hope you don't mind me
saying this but it's going to
be on November 12th at 5 o'clock
my time and they're going to
we're going to have a show where
we answer the questions about
what happened and what happened
in the chapel is astounding. I
mean, it's it's a tearjerker,
but it's going to be on the
dark zone which is on Facebook
and you'll be able to see a
link if you go to my page, you
know, when it comes out but
it'll be definitely worth
seeing what happened in the
chapel and it's not check out
the dark zone. Yeah, there's
just things flying around or
anything like that. It's just
the the answers we got. Yeah.
The questions and I mean, it
was like a conversation one
right after the other and the
whole story was this this guy
was sitting in a chair and he
figured and all the girls that
go there, I'll say he threw us
out. He hates us. He didn't
told us to get out and
everything else. So, we went
down there. We had a girl with
us. One of our one of our
people, Cheryl Plumb and we
just decided, you know, I I
said, I don't think he's mean.
I think he's just, you know,
he's lonesome. You know, people
always shun him because he was
deformed, right? So, we sent
Cheryl and Cheryl went in and
we sent her in the car right by
the chat right by the altar and
we left her in there for about
1015 minutes by herself and
then we went in and we started
talking and and he started
answering one after the other
after the other and it's it's
pretty cool story too. What
what what's going on in the
questions? You know, I mean,
we've all we've all had where
we asked, you know, did you die
here? Yes, I mean, but this is
more personal questions, you
know, and it's pretty good.
Yeah. Quite deep. Quite deep
conversation then. Yeah, it's
not so it's it's deep but it's
very touching. Yeah. Yeah. Very
personal. Yeah. Well, what
actually happens is that this
guy who's been shunned his
whole life makes a connection
with Cheryl. Wow. And we were
asking questions about it and
he was answering them. So, it's
it's a I hope it's you know, I
think it's it's phenomenal.
It's phenomenal. Actually, when
Jay asked me when I was
watching him, he was filming,
he goes, Rick, what do you
think about that? And I think I
said, boy, that was a love
story. I said, you want to know
what I think about that?
Perfect.
That was nothing. I look
forward to watching that. Yeah,
it's really good and I think
you can fall into, I mean, you
can you can, you know, chat and
chat with the guys on the big
big platform right now. They
just got it up. Looks like it's
running pretty good and
awesome. November 12th at five
o'clock my time and it'll
probably go in the archives too.
So, he worked. Yeah, I'll be
there to watch anyway if you if
you miss it live. Yeah, well,
you heard it first. You've
heard it first on talking with
the source November 12th. I
mean, you guys can also
obviously go to Rick McCallum.
It's going to be on his page as
well but go to Dark Zone like
that. It's going to be great. I
wanted to ask you, Rick, about,
you know, your group. So, tell
me, what was one of the most
memorable times as a group that
you guys had? Oh, an
investigation. It's a really
good question. and the reason I
say it's a really good question
is everybody sees things
differently. Of course. Now,
some of the places which I
thought were phenomenal. Other
than that, I think I think
Sloss Furnace in Alabama was
really, really haunted. I also
think that when we went to
Waverly Sanitarium, that was
very haunted. I mean, we had
some really interesting things
happen there. I actually got
growled at in one room and no
dogs, nothing around. So, that
was a really good time. I'm
waving but I'll I know. I'm
saying they are. Yeah, yeah.
You'll be on paranormal
magazine. Yes, there are links
of you beyond. You can go to
talking with the source on
Facebook. We're the first link
down on the talking with the
source page. You'll see the you
know, the link for this that
I'll be playing and you can
share that if you'd like. Thank
you so much for asking and
thank you so much for joining
us but yeah, no, sorry, Rick. I
we didn't mean to wave and not
say that to you. We were just
waving because of that. I just
wanted to say that. Yeah, no,
hey, I just got these random,
you know, Yeah. So, we've
we've actually had quite quite
a few pretty cool places we've
been. We've been to Waverly.
We've been to Old South
Pittsburgh. We've been to Slough
Furnace. We've been to the
Omen House. We've been to
Linda Vista Hospital several
times. You know, we've actually
got to go to some pretty iconic
places but like I said, right
now, everybody's so spread out.
It's, you know, we're all doing
it. It's just, gosh, I can't
remember the name of it. I see
that on his page a couple of
about a month ago on it. Two
months ago. Yeah. Yeah. What
was the name of it?
Just go to Kane Hodder on
Facebook and you'll see it.
Yeah. And for any of you, by
the way, not because he's my
friend but partially because of
the way he was. I mean, people
probably don't know that he got
burned very badly. Um doing a
stunt. I mean, very badly and
it almost killed it. And uh
what he came, what he went
through to come back to to be
as big a star as he is in the
movie business. I mean, there's
a documentary called The Hell
and Back and it is by far the
most moving documentary I've
ever seen. And I mean, I know
people who just send me
videos of them and I did too.
You know? Yeah. Yeah. One back.
Uh Kane actually asked me, he
said, when they were showing
the premiere, uh he said, you
know, Kane says, you know, I
don't like to go to those
things. He says, go and tell me
what they need to change
because this was, it wasn't all
finished. It was, you know,
like a rough cut of what it was
and I got home and he calls me.
He goes, well, what did you
think? What would you change?
I said, you want the honest
answer? He goes, uh oh. And I
said, oh, tell you the honest
answer is, it's amazing. And he
goes, you're just saying that.
I said, how long have I known
you? I'll bust your chops if I
don't like it. You know that.
And so,
although I did get a little
cranky in it because they
interviewed me and they said,
somebody said, well, you know,
Kane, you know, you know, he's
lucky to have gotten this and I
just, I was going to wait just
a second. Nobody ever gave
Kane anything, right? He worked
his ass to get off to where,
you know, he was going to be
the most polite guest they've
ever had. Right? So, it
probably wasn't the most polite
guest they've ever had. Yeah, a
lot of people think that
automatically. They don't know
when they hear about people
from Hollywood and actors and
stuff and they think to
themselves, oh, they get
everything handed to them and
stuff like that but we know
from from talking to people like
yourself that you you you know,
you've put the work in to get
where you are and you know,
you've got nothing gets handed
to you. Yeah, that's yeah, he's
he's very impressive person.
That is. Yeah. I tell you what
I mean, all very talented,
very impressive. I mean, for
sure. I mean, even yourself,
Rick, I mean, just the things
that you've accomplished, you
guys have all accomplished. I
mean, just, I mean, what I
wanted to ask you actually a
question was what we said right
before this last question when
you were talking about the
personal message that you
have in your communication and
I wanted to ask you over the
50 years that you've been in
this you know, field, have you
noticed that there's becoming
more personal moments like more
back and forth communication
between this world and the next
have you noticed maybe any of
growth between like the amount
of personal messages and the
connection coming through now
or is it always been in the
conversation? I think the
biggest reason why people think
they're getting more stuff and
they they may be is because we
have more equipment to
quantify quantify something's
happening. Now, when I when I
first started, I had to, you
know, use stick figures on the
chalkboard. You know, we didn't
have anything right. That was
not voice recorders. There was
nothing. No night vision
cameras, but now you have
everything at your disposal,
you know, so now you're more
able to get evidence. The young
couple actually did it. I don't
want to say their names because
they both passed. But yeah, I
mean, now it's so much easier
to get evidence. You know what
I mean? And I I actually have
found too that if you go to a
place quite a bit that you can
actually make friends. I go to
the LAPD Museum a lot and
they're the first motorcycle
that I've ever killed. And for
some reason, Walter and I kind
of bonded and I'll go
downstairs and there'll be like
ten people around the large
conference table. Yeah, I have
a video. It's really cool.
There's two K two meters there
and I put mine down and I just
said, hey, Walter, it's Rick.
Are you here with me? Bam. All
three of them went off. They're
like, what? Me and Walter are
buds, you know, so. So, it's
it's pretty interesting when
we were at LAPD Museum Ghost
Adventures had done a hunt
there and Jay and and it was
with Dark Zone. We were doing
it. Thought it might be a good
idea to show. You know the the
Ghost Adventures show of what
was going on in in the LAPD
Museum. So, we watched it on
TV and there was something they
brought up that I did not know
and that was that a girl had
committed suicide in the firing
range. It's not what you think
it's actually it is not what it
is now. It's just like a long
corridor cinder block corridor
with files in it and stuff but
they did some investigation.
They found out this girl had
taken a gun out of one of the
things and shot herself in the
firing range and and they were
able to find out that her name
was Margaret and when we came
back, we were talking and I was
talking with Walter and we were
getting all these things and I
said, I'm going to ask you if I
get an answer from someone else.
I said, I know there's a girl
that passed away and I
purposely didn't say, you know,
how she passed away. You know,
I just said, it passed away in
the firing range. Are you here
with us? Right? And my K2 went
off and I said, what's your
name? And it goes Margaret. So,
I mean, told her that they had
found. So, yeah, you get more
direct answers and and I think
that's the thing. I mean, I've
seen so many people go in and
try and bully the ghosts and and
I I take them aside and I said,
how would you feel if I walked
into your house and talk to you
like you're talking about? Yeah.
And he goes, I wouldn't like it.
What do you make you think that
a spirit that doesn't have to
talk to you doesn't have to show
itself is going to play your
silly game? Yeah. You know,
people when they're intentionally
to antagonize them and it's
like, you know, it's not a
chance. No, they're just
leaning back watching Ghost TV
going in. carry on carry on.
Do what you're doing. The part
that gets me when I see people
bullying ghosts like that is
that they're bullying ghosts and
then they literally will say
it's a demon after the fact and
it's like, so you're scared but
you just bullied the ghost. How
do you feel about that? I'm
not going to quote according to
you but you're going to bully a
demon. That doesn't make any
sense to me. So, it's a little
oxymoron there that I see people
doing it on YouTube and it
cracks. I have people tell me
all the time that yes, we think
it was a demon. I said, let me
answer. Let me tell you
something. I have run across two
and 50 some years and you will
instantly know. There'll be no
doubt what it is. Thank you. I
said, you know, from from your
own experience and I said, and
it will make itself known and
it'll let you know exactly what
it is and I've had it happen
twice. It's terrifying but I
stood my ground both times and
it was able to make it go away
but yeah, this whole thing.
It's a demon. It's a demon.
It's a demon. It's not a demon.
Okay. No, it's it's just a
spirit that you've just pissed
off. It's a guy that used to be
the drunk guy in the bowling
club. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I wanted to ask you about
somewhere that's that's very
close to my heart that I want
to go to on the bucket list and
you've been there recently was
the Winchester Mystery House.
Yeah. Winchester Mystery House
is very strange place. I was
lucky to be there and the two
hosts were myself and Patty
Negri. Yeah. And when you get
to the Winchester Mystery House,
you're like, I'm going to go
get a drink of something
because she's extraordinarily
good. Yeah. Somebody's stealing
AJ. No, no. I watch you take a
sip of your tea and I'm like, I
need to get my drink. I'm a
little thirsty. I know the
Winchester Mystery House was not
as good as it could have been
because they only allowed us to
go to a million rooms, right?
Yeah. And we had a pretty good
size crowd and you know, when
you get too many people in a
small place, you're done. Yeah.
We got we got really good
things from Patty's seance. My
friend, Kat Hopson was there and
Laurie was there. Laurie who's
is listening. Hi, Laurie. It was
in the chat. Yeah, she she
actually ghost hunts with me and
she's like the queen of the SLS
camera, right? She was just with
us in Scotland and we had we had
quite a few good things happen.
Um but yeah, Patty Negri was
sitting there and all of a
sudden, she asked, who are you?
Who do you most want to talk to
when it comes to Kat and Kat was
standing right next to her. So,
I mean, it was it's kind of cool.
So, Kat was getting a few
answers to some things. In
meantime, Laurie was getting
an SLS thing of something that
sat down in the chair right
where they had pointed. Uh so,
that was pretty cool. So, why
why was that then about the only
six rooms? I thought if you if
you were in that place, if you
if you hired that place that
you basically had the run of it.
It doesn't work that way. Um you
know, you can go there on a
tour and they'll they'll take
you through most of the place.
Some of the places still they're
still going to be damaged and
damaged in an earthquake. You
know, right? But when you're
actually going with a film crew
and things like that, they
limit you to certain rooms for
whatever your budget might be.
You know, if you come there and
drop fifty grand on him, you
can watch go through the whole
thing. You know, if you give
him $11, you get to go to the
bathroom and get out. You know,
it's just it's pretty much, you
know, what you have to spend
and what you know, how much
you're going to spend. You know,
you have have just had other
things in there. You know,
balls and all kinds of stuff
and you know, you just have to
take what you can get and it's
a very interesting place. I
boy, I would love to go through
that with just a couple of
people. That would be. Yeah.
Through the whole place. That
would be amazing but the
grounds are amazing. The rooms
are amazing. The people are
great. You know, the Winchester
Mystery House people were
fantastic. So, um yeah, I would
definitely suggest going there.
Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. That's
all he got. He's got another
book out as well, haven't you?
Well, it's it's not out yet.
It's actually at Amazon.
They're still reviewing it and
there's a lot of problems with
the cover and finally fix that.
So, that's your second book,
isn't it? Yeah, it's my second
book. Actually, I'm really
quite proud of the first one
because it won the Paranormal
Award Show Book of the Year.
Yeah, that is awesome. But this
next one should come out this
week, hopefully. Um and then
it's off to the races. You
know, we'll see what happens.
Yeah, no, that's great. Can you
uh are you allowed to give any
information or no? Hell yeah, I
wrote it. I can do it. Do
whatever the hell I want. Go
for it. That's why I what do you
want to know? Uh I know there's
quite a bit of Scotland stuff
in there. There's quite a bit
of stuff in there. I mean,
there's like 50 stories. Uh
some of them are a little short
stories. Some of them are
longer. Uh we had some really
interesting things happen in
in some places in Scotland like
Earth Castle. Uh was really
good. Um Laurie Dorsey had
something. Uh when we got there
at Castle, we found out we
weren't going to be able to stay
overnight in there because
they'd had a fire. Um so, we
weren't even supposed to be able
to stay overnight. Um somebody
told us that there was a uh
graveyard about half mile away.
So, me and Kathleen Burns and
everybody else uh just being
polite. Every, you know, there's
like five or six of us went
over and um went to this
graveyard and Robin will attest
to what I'm about to say. We're
having a really good time until
the midges showed up. Yeah. I
mean, it's it's it's flies in
your face. Honestly, it's it's
and and they they bloody bite.
Yeah. I mean and they come in
the swarms of like 8 billion at
a time but yeah, we we got some
matter of fact, the cover of my
book. I wish I could show it to
you. Yeah. From that. I gotta
I gotta share something with
you. So, we had someone and
Brad Wolf just said, I just
heard a ghost that said you
should just keep on wasting
your time. I wish I wish you
would come out with us sometime
and maybe we would be wasting
our life together. Exactly. I
think he's just channeling the
ghost of my dad. I think so
too.
Honestly, see if you see if you
walk through a swarm of lose,
right? You keep your eyes shut.
You keep your mouth shut. You
keep everything closed because
you've been walking along
the same path. They they are
interesting. Uh one of the
girls that was there who was
also with Dark Zone. Um
Christine Augustine. Uh she
showed me a picture she took of
me. I was standing alone in the
graveyard and it's 11 at night.
So, it's still the sky is still
kind of blue and everything
else and there's a light in
there. It's lit up me and a
bush that's in front of me and
you can see the gravestones in
the back and she came up. She
came up and she's like, I'm
going to cover my next book and
it is so that was but Laurie
Dorsey who's in chat. Um as we
were walking back, she was she
went ahead of us because she
had several surgeries on her
feet. So, she's still getting
her legs underneath her. So,
she goes a little earlier and
uh bless her heart. I mean, she
a little warrior. Off she goes
but as we're coming up, she's
like, I'm going to go. I'm just
going with her. So, cat caught
up and she's, you know, it's
like, what's going on? She was
wasn't I talking to you? She
goes, no, you're talking to
nobody. She goes, somebody was
like, dang, I thought it was
you. So, that's interesting. I
tell you what, that's a free
incident to happen because I've
had that happen many times and
like, I tell you what, it gets
me every time because it really
sounds like the person you
think like that is not talking.
It's not talking to anybody
else because we actually just
had an experience at my gas
station where I'm where I'm
working right at the moment and
like me and my boss and another
uh person were working one
night and my boss and the other
person were getting ready to
leave and also we're standing
there and we're chatting. We're
talking about the cigarette
account and all this stuff and
lotto and next minute, you know,
we hear a woman's voice talk
and say something from like
where the office is. Now, we
have no electronic stuff that's
going to talk. We have nothing
back there that's going to do
anything. It's happened two
more times after we checked and
we walked back up front. We
heard this woman's voice again
and nobody was in the entire
place but us three and we were
both being, we're all being
silent and I tell you, it
really does sound like the
people that you think when you,
you know, would come up. I
mean, it's really wild. Yeah.
Yeah. It's always right beside
you. It's never like, well,
obviously, you said it came from
my room but anytime I've
experienced it, it's always
like right close to you. It's
always like right next to you.
Yeah. Well, I will tell you
that uh Lori and I, Lori had
stayed a little bit after after
the tour because she wanted to
uh see more of the stuff. So,
um we were walking. I took her
over to Colton Hill. Yeah.
Which is this beautiful place
that you can see all of all of
uh Edinburgh from and it's got
all the monuments. So, we're
walking up and there's like a
seventy-five yard piece of
stone and there's a black hand
rail down the middle so you can
go up and you know, one on each
side. So, we're walking up and
I hear somebody like right
behind me, you know, like right
into my ear and go, pardon me,
kind of angry, right? And I
turned around and I looked and
there's absolutely nobody on
the whole path but us and I
turned around and I looked at
Lori. I said, did you hear that?
She goes, yeah, the guy said,
pardon me. I said, well, turn
around and look. She goes,
pardon me. Edinburgh is like
that. I remember uh just when
you were saying earlier about
Mary King's close uh because I
went there uh let's see about
five, six years ago now and as
we as we were walking through,
they have all like the little
bedrooms and so I told you
this last time, Rick anyway but
we'll send the AJ to have all
like these little bedrooms and
all in the houses all still on
the ground and you could hear
like a child crying and like
then there was a like a woman's
voice like murmuring. You
couldn't, I couldn't make it
out at a time but you can hear
like a murmur and you turn
around and there's only the
ones that you're with and a
couple of the others that are
maybe a bit further ahead of
you and you're like, it's
definitely something out there
and you're not going to hear
anything from up above because
you're probably like 50 or 60
feet underground. Yeah. Yeah.
So, you know, that's what
happened at the Real Mary King
is close. We had just come out
of Annie's room. Now, Annie's
room is where this little girl
passed away and it's full of
stuffed animals and money.
People leave coins and they
have bring stuffed animals for
Annie and this was during the
pair of Unity Hunt and we just
gone out of the room and we're
in this corridor. We're right
at it right at the end of the
hallway and there was me and
two or three girls. There was
a girl who's like, you know,
she's like one of the managers
at Real Mary King's close and
two other girls that were
ghost hunters and we're
standing there and I start
hearing something and I'm
looking around and I'm trying
not to pretend that I'm hearing
but it's continuous, right?
Yeah. So, I look over at the
girls and they're going, right?
So, I looked over. Now, you
guys have both been around long
enough to know that you don't
say, hey, I hear this. Do you
hear it? Do you hear it? Right?
I said, do you guys hear
something? They go, yeah. I
said, well, what are you
hearing? And all of them said
at the same time, it sounds
like a heartbeat. It really
does. It's like and I mean, it
wasn't and it was loud enough
that that all four of us could
hear it very easily. So, and
the thing that was really cool
too is the Scottish Paranormal
guys who've been there many
times, they told me they said,
we have never been to this
place when it blew up like
this, you know, so that was
really cool. I'm glad you
said that. Oh, I gotta get out
there for sure. It's a
phenomenal place that Mary
Kings close. There's there's
such a I think as well because
it's on the ground. It like it
houses a lot of energy. You
feel it as you walk through,
right? Don't you? Oh yeah. Yeah,
I mean, just go in there on the
on the little tours. You know,
you'll get, you know, you'll
get some stuff. So, it's a
really, really cool place. I
did have somebody ask me a
question one time. They said,
what is the best way to do
this on a on a hunt? I said,
I want you to answer a real
easy answer and he said, well,
what is it? I said, I just
hunt them when I came back the
next time.
I'll kill you if you do that.
Yeah, right. I mean, I, I, I,
you know, I hate when I see it
and I, and I've been, there's a
couple people that just got
caught on YouTube for doing
stuff. Big channels too that
just got caught doing some
things and it's, you know, it's
a lot of people that are
interested in doing stuff for
these big, you know, kid type
channels but the thing is, is
that like, you know, ruining
the field when people do that
and like, it's a very, it's a
very serious thing and I don't
think a lot of people
understand like when when we
talk about ghost, right? Like,
when we say the word ghost,
like how the guy, the kid and
who just said in the comments
before, you know, it's kind of
like a joking thing for a lot
of people like a ghost. You
know, I think that people kind
of don't really understand when
we say that, you know, it's not
mostly like we're talking about
something that is
scientifically known just a
matter of we have nothing to
measure to measure it completely
all the way like you just said
before Rick. So, you know, I I
hate to see people fake stuff
man because there's so much
more to this than than there
really is. Well, I can tell you,
you know, my group was on we
were the only group at the time.
I don't know if anybody else
has either that actually ghost
hunted with ghost adventures
and I get asked all the time,
you know, I said, oh yeah, I
said, you have to understand
something. Me and Kane are very
protective of our reputations.
Yeah. And we watch them like
hawks. I said, you know, I can
tell you on our show, there
wasn't anything that wasn't
something that happened, right?
And everything they did was
above board. So, I would vouch
for them, you know, I wish I
could have been more of a
scary person. I mean, it's scary
but you know, but yeah, no, they
were way above board and they're
they're really cool people too.
So, it's it's just strange. You
know, I don't know why people
have to do that. You know, well,
I do know why they're after the
fame. They want the TV show.
They want to be at the
conventions. You know, they want
all that. Yeah. And
you know, I was at a table with
the guy. Kane was at a table
here at Scarefest. Kane was at
a table. R.A. was at a table and
I was at a table, you know,
through Hollywood Ghost Hunters
and this guy comes up to me and
he goes, you know, I really
like your group and I like
those guys because they have a
TV show and it's really and they
go, yeah. And I said, you do
realize that between us three
right here, we've done over
300 movies, right? The guy with
the
glasses on. Okay.
There's Brian says he hears you
Rick. He has a problem with
someone he was collabing with.
It was the last time you
investigated with that person.
That's the thing to do. Just
kick him to the curb. Yeah.
Absolutely. You know, I actually
took one guy aside and I told
him, I said, you know, stop
performing. Yeah. It's getting
hard to go with you performing
all the time. So, just stop.
Exactly. But, you know, I've
actually had, you know, some
great people that have gone
somewhere like, you know, Patty
Negri, you know, she's she's
really fun. Melissa St. Hilaire
is another one that goes on with
Susan Slaughter, Kristen
Newman, Brandon Alves, you know,
I've actually got to go with
quite a few really, really good
people that have gone to the
theater. Um and it's so fun to
see the different techniques
that everybody has, you know?
Yeah. Yeah. I want to. Is there
ever been any movie sets you've
been on that have been haunted
that you've been able to maybe
investigate? Oh, yeah. One of
them. I can't tell you the name
of it though but. Oh, yeah. I
forgot. That's kind of a, yeah.
That would be a bad thing to do
on. Sorry. Well, what happened
was the security guy, we're
we're doing one of the hatchet
movies and he's I was talking
to him and he said, can I go up
there? He said, yeah. He's
haunted. I said, can I go up
there? He goes, yeah. So, I told
the people the next day, I
actually asked some of the crew
if they didn't want to go. I
asked the actors, no, no, no,
no. Uh Kane wasn't there that
day. So, um one of the makeup
girls said, I'll go with you.
So, we go up there and we're
going along. I got my K2 meter
out in the voice recorder.
We're walking down the hallway
and it's totally dark and the
lights are on. So, if you ask
anybody who ghost hunts with me,
they'll say that they've never
seen anybody get the activity
off a K2 that I do and it's
just that I just use it a
different way, right? Than than
than they do because whenever I
go into a room, the first thing
I say is I tell them my name.
Then I explain the equipment
how it works, right? I see
people go into places that are
from the 1500s ago. Can you
talk into the K2? You know,
you're like, what? What's the
point? What are you talking
about? Go to the light. What's
a light? So, you have to, you
know, I explained it. So, I
end up getting better stuff
but you know, it's uh it's
interesting. You know,
everybody has their own their
own way of doing things but I
did answer on it on a show one
time, a TV show I was doing and
they said, what's the best way
to to ghost on? I said, first
off, don't ghost on. I said,
you know, I'm not going to see
a ghost bullet. So, what you
should do is just try to
interact. I said, and you have
to understand this. You're not
going to see a spirit unless
it wants you to, right? Yeah.
You never will. I said, you may
see some residual things that
that happen but you know, the
best way to go about ghost
hunting is when you go in into
a room, pretend you're you
found a puppy that was lost in
your backyard, right? You don't
chase it. You just sit there,
you know, and you talk nice to
it until it comes to you. It's
not going to be nice. You know,
all of a sudden, they're they're
talking to people they don't
know, you know, then, should I
trust this person? You know,
exactly. Yeah, going to be nice.
Just talk to them. You know,
there's there's not enough of
that goes on, Rick, to be
honest. Well, I know and I I've
actually, you know, told people
to, you know, calm down. You
know, you get a little, you
know, you're just going to
scare them off. Just leave them
alone. So,
you know, you're going to get
stuff from other people, too.
So, I mean, that's that's one
of the good things about
ghost hunting. Some techniques
that I've picked up from other
people. I got one friend who's
named Mikey Thompson who will
be on the thing on the dark
zone on the 12th. Um when I
first met him, he was very
timid. Uh he actually got quite
scared and actually we had
something very nasty, very
negative entity came to us and
it was one of his first first
times ghost hunting. He got a
little bit scared and we came
outside and we talked and and
that was probably six or seven
years ago and he's he's turned
into one of the best
investigators there is. Matter
of fact, right now, at this
right now, he's investigating
uh uh in Virginia City. They
did the Washoe Club last night
and they're at uh Virginia City
Hotel. I think it's where they
are tonight. So, I love the
Washoe Club. Yeah, I haven't
seen it in a while. I was doing
so. Yeah. You plan on getting
back out there? I don't think
I'll go up there. Okay. Okay.
You know, just personal, you
know, sorry, I didn't mean to
cut you off. What I wanted to
actually ask you for the last
question I wanted to ask you
was uh so, what are if you had
three pieces of equipment that
you could bring with you
anywhere on any investigation
and you only had three pieces
of equipment, what would you
take? I would take uh uh K two
meter voice recorder and a
thermal imager. Okay. And tell
me why that is. Well, because
it's very hard to refute things
that you hear on tape and it's
very hard to refute things when
you get them on a thermal
imager and I think those are
two really good pieces of
evidence and I like to use the
K two because I get a lot of
answers and a lot of things
that way and I think that could
help guide me to where the
right things are and what the
right things I would take.
Absolutely. I mean, that's
awesome. I mean, you know, I
never think of a thermal
imager like as a first go to
but I tell you what, it's very
important because it's such a
great piece of equipment
because it's like it's not, you
can't fake yourself on that.
You know, if you catch
something on the anomaly, you
know, it's an anomaly like 100%
like a lot of other pieces of
equipment but I like it with
the thermal because it's not
something that you regularly
see a lot like especially on
show like that. Yeah, it's
something I've been thinking
about for a while now and it
goes on my phone. Oh, really?
Yeah. And you should look into
those because they work pretty
well. I mean, thermal imagers
are very expensive. Yeah. Very
expensive and I think my
adapter was like 400 bucks and
you just plug it into the
bottom of your phone. You know,
he did the charger thing and
it works pretty good. Alright.
I'll have to check that out.
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's
a great thing. I'm ready to go.
You know, you're ready to go.
Yeah. Yeah. That would be that
would be the three pieces I
would have. Cool. Excellent.
Robin, do you have any last
questions before we uh head
out? Uh no, pretty much. I'm
just uh the the whole
conversation has been
fantastic. It's just it's great
to have people on who who think
along the same way as we do and
you know, I mean, like you
know, we're we're we're only in
it for the evidence. We only
want to be able to to get the
evidence that you know that
people are there and
communicate with these spirits
and stuff like that and and be
able to sort of get their story
if you want to put it that way.
Yeah. I did have a uh
production company that
auditioned me for one of these
shows and they came back to me
and they said, we love your
audition. We absolutely loved
it but uh we're trying to get a
younger demo. It's okay. I said
I said, by the way, did you see
the exorcist and they said,
yeah and I said, what you think
of it? He goes, oh, when the
**** really hit the fan, I said,
he goes, man, it was it was
terrifying. I said, yeah, they
didn't call in the younger
priest. See you.
Well, uh just want to say
before we uh when Rick, give a
shout out to anything that you
have. The priest hunters, you
know, anything you have coming
up, just air it all on here. I
think the thing that I most like
to do is the book because uh
anything that I write in the
show, the shirts that we sell,
um I give almost all the
profits to Saint Jude's
Hospital. So, I always I always
like to promote those but my
next book is called uh the
spirits are out there and
they're going to be very
shortly. It'll be on Amazon and
uh go buy it. I want to send
some money to Saint Jude's. I'm
where do people buy your merch
from? Uh actually, you have it
for the t-shirts. You have to
come to me on Facebook. Uh the
the other things, you know, if
you want an autographed copy of
the book, you would come to me
because obviously, I can't go
to Amazon and sign it. Uh so I
always get a bunch sent here
and then I sign them and send
them to me more than if you buy
it because I've already paid
the shipping and everything to
get them to me and then I paid
the shipping to send them out.
So, yeah, makes sense. It costs
like $2 more. So, yeah, why
not? Yeah, it's worth it. Rick,
thank you so much for coming on
again. I mean, we're going to
be, I definitely haven't you
on again because we love talking
to you because we could talk
for hours like we said in the
beginning. Um but thank you so
much for coming on again,
Rick and uh I'm so happy that I
got to be here. Thank you so
much from the bottom of my heart
for coming on and uh keep doing
what you're doing, man.
Honestly. Thank you, Rick.
You're welcome. AJ, you go
visit Robin and I will come,
you know, there and all three
of us can go ghost on some
place. Absolutely. And like I
said before, Rick, whenever
you're back over in Scotland and
stuff like that there, I'll I'll
get somewhere for us and we'll
meet up and do it because
there's a lot of good places
about. Yeah, well, I'm going to
try to get a route that's made
to to do the West Highland Way
um which a lot of people don't
know. It's a 96 mile trail that
goes from uh just outside
Glasgow up into the highlands.
Right. And I'm kind of really
want to try that. If I can
figure about halfway along,
they'll find my corpse way off
to the side of the road. But I
want to give that a whirl, you
know. Yeah. So, yeah. Thanks
for having me. Anytime. Yeah.
So, if anybody wants to talk to
me about anything, just go to
Rick McCullum on Facebook or uh
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answer all the mail. So, they
are. There you have it. Hi,
guys. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Rick. We'll we'll
stay in touch with you anyway.
Alrighty, man. Alright, my
friend. Have a good one. Thank
you. Thank you. Wow, man. I
was I'm so happy I was able to
make this episode because. You
missed the last one there. You
missed the last one. Oh, no.
But I made it up though because
um I got the joke around and
have a good time today. We
especially before the podcast.
We got to laugh a lot. So, I
gave a demo man. Oh, man. I
tell you, I it's it's so
awesome and to hear about the
parts, you know, I know it's a
paranormal podcast but I was
dying to ask some movie
people to watch the movies and
I and I wanted to see the parts
that I I didn't recognize him
in without the goatee and stuff
without the mustache goatee but
um yeah. He's in he's in uh
like like he he did say quite a
lot of movies and there's like
probably people now who'll
watch movies and think, oh,
here, that's actually, that's
the guy that that's that's you
know, because before, you know,
like like he said, he was doing
a lot of stunt doubles as well
because if he was doing a
stunt double for Clint Eastwood
for instance, then people would
be saying, oh, it's Clint
Eastwood because yeah. No,
definitely. You're absolutely
right. Absolutely. Yeah. But
like I said, he's been on the
show before. A good friend of
ours. He's been on again there
and he will be on again. Amen
and we're going to get to go
out and go with him. So, let's
get that make that happen in
the next year or two. So,
exactly. Thank you guys so much
for tuning in. You've watched
the show. Make sure to check
out Rick McCallum's new book.
It's going to be on Amazon.
Also, check out the Hollywood
Ghost Hunters and just all that
Rick McCallum's doing on
Facebook. So, go to Facebook
and check those out and we will
see you next time on Talking
Super.