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Go ahead, man.
Please introduce our guest.
We have the founder of PowerLynx,
the platform that we are running on.
Great guy, great platform to run on.
Can't speak highly enough about him, can we?
So without further ado, Mr. Stephen Woodard.
Hey, Stephen Woodard.
What's up, Stephen?
How are you?
Oh, we're having a little bit of a connective issues.
Hey, everybody.
How are you?
There he is.
You hear me now?
There we go.
You hear me now?
Yeah, we're coming.
All right, so hi, everybody.
Yeah, I do want to apologize.
I do have a little bit of a airbomb audio
on the network nose.
That, but yeah, just bear with it.
Yep, we're gonna have to bear with him.
He's on satellite right now, so.
But hey, Stephen, that's all good, my friend.
So the first question I wanted to ask you was,
how did you get into the paranormal world?
Like what made you get into it?
Okay, so when I was,
first of all, when I was younger, four or five years old,
I've had a couple of paranormal experiences
and stuff like that, but still kind of too young
to realize what was going on.
I used to take family trips and see me just crazy-facing
on a window at this courthouse
when I was going out one of these oak heads.
We saw an apparition of an actual building.
And to take that into perspective is the fact
that taking a car, went through the cemetery,
kind of like a U-Drive or whatever,
and the car lights kind of flashed on this building
and didn't think nothing of it.
What did that do with it?
Come back out there like the next day
and that building wasn't even there.
There was trees.
Curiosity kicked in and I'm like,
okay, what's going on here?
So me, still being in high school,
I went to a local library
and got the local information and history
and stuff like that.
I've always been a history buff,
even as a teenager.
And come to find out, I found pictures and stuff
of the actual build hospital for that cemetery
that we were at.
And that cemetery or that building
was actually torn down, condemned.
And that kind of started my paranormal journey
right there because that was,
after witnessing something like that
and then turning my wheels, getting me, I wanted more.
I wanted more, I wanted to get more in the field.
And so that kind of started off
one of my first paranormal teams as a teenager
on up through high school until I joined the army.
And that just kind of set the career off from there.
Been in many different teams since that time.
Done many different things until 2005
when I started my own team, Ghost Tech.
Wow, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
That's amazing because you never really hear
of apparitions of like an actual building.
It's normally apparitions of actual spirit people,
but an apparition of a building.
That's the first one for us on here.
Yeah, absolutely.
That is so awesome though.
And it's so weird because I know the feeling
that you're talking about
when you see an apparition like that.
Not to that scale, but just an apparition in general.
When I was in a Montana State Prison, we were pulling up.
And as we were pulling up, I saw one of the,
it looked like a guy who was like a painter
walking towards the doorway
to one of the guard shack towers.
He was walking out of the guard shack towers
and he ended up basically never coming out
and there was no one ever in there.
So I know that feeling of seeing an apparition.
I can't imagine seeing a building though.
That's absolutely intense.
Like, oh my gosh.
What's the first time and last time for me?
I've never saw another building apparition again.
That was, ever since then it was spirits,
but that was a first and last for me.
And that may have been a sign to say,
hey, this is what you need to do.
I definitely think it was.
What do you think Robin?
Oh yeah, definitely.
Because at the end of the day,
we talk about energies and energies being strong.
And depending on how you see a spirit person,
if you see obviously a full manifestation,
then it's obviously strong energy.
And then if you see,
like sort of little bits here and there,
the energy's not so strong,
but you just have to think about
how actual strong the energy is.
If it actually makes a building appear and disappear,
that must be a hotbed for it.
Yeah.
I mean, tell me, Steven,
do you have any theories of why you might've seen that?
Do you like any scientific theories
to like put it into perspective?
Cause I know you're a person that has scientific
like experiments that you guys add into your stuff,
which we'll talk about later,
but we talked about it a little bit before the show,
but do you have any scientific ideas
of maybe like why you saw that energy by chance or no?
Okay, so of course I'm too young,
17 years old back then to assert any
Of course.
Scientific stuff that like we brought to the field here
as of lately, but as reflection.
Yeah.
And after the different experiences I've had
at different places since then,
what comes to mind is maybe barometric readings
at that particular moment.
Maybe let's say being more of an imprint.
So let's say it's an imprint on the land,
kind of like the stone tape theory.
And that's kind of where I go with it,
that that building was part of the stone tape theory
was it was just enough energy.
And think about it,
it's a Confederate cemetery with over a thousand graves in it,
a thousand of unknown soldiers.
I mean, that energy is still there,
probably still there to this day.
And I haven't gone back to that cemetery in a long time,
but I can imagine that that energy is just,
you know, real prevalent there
because a lot of these soldiers, you know,
they're not at rest.
They don't, they're unknown.
Their graves are marked unknown.
So that's just a hotbed of energy itself.
So my theory is it's probably had a lot to do with,
let's say the barometric readings in the area.
Just it had to be the right top.
It had to be, like I said, like an imprint
and just say the,
it's like, let's say you have a glass,
a piece of glass or an orb or something
and it's virtually invisible, right?
Until you blow like a baby powder over it,
then it's gonna cover it.
Kind of the same theory I think kind of happened here
is there was a little fog in the area
and the fog pretty much mapped out the building,
but it actually looked like a straight building.
Well, do you know what?
You've actually just strengthened
my belief in something here
because where I live,
we're like, there's like a holiday resort on the coast
where we are and there's seven miles,
seven and a half miles I think of a tram network
where they run, obviously the trams up and down
and they run along the coast
and there's a little part of the coast,
excuse me, where they actually say
there's supposedly a ghost tram
where at certain times of the year,
you'll hear this tram,
you'll hear the bell of it ringing
and it will literally appear for two seconds
on the rails and disappear
and I often thought to myself,
I don't know what, obviously for A,
I haven't seen it myself so,
but it's like, you think you're supposed to be
you think to yourself, well,
but now that you've said about the building
and stuff they got there,
it kind of makes me think, well, maybe it is.
Perfect place where you do an experiment.
Couple months of experiment just to see
what you come up with.
Yeah, definitely.
Absolutely and I totally agree with what you were saying
Steve about the, you know,
barometric pressure and all that kind of stuff.
Like all that had to probably be exactly right,
in that moment or just for that energy to show itself.
I mean, I always try to think of like different theories
of like, an easier way to put it at,
if someone like say, a skeptic comes up to me
and is like, explain to me the afterlife in a simple way,
but that doesn't wanna,
I don't wanna obviously talk to them about,
a spiritual aspect as in religion wise,
and say angels and demons and things like that.
And I wanna talk to them in a scientific way.
I always try to, you know, have theories like, you know,
through scientific equivalent and stuff that can,
you know, validate this type of stuff
and then put the synchronicities together
by reflecting over time.
So that was the reason why I asked you about, you know,
what do you think was going on in that moment?
Because it's important to my research
and I think that you just like,
definitely helped me further my research
by explaining some things that you just explained.
So I truly appreciate that.
Absolutely.
Queen Patty's in the building.
Yeah, that's, yeah, hi Patty.
Hey Patty.
Hi Sonia, hi Shannon.
We got quite a few people here.
Yeah, and anyone as well, anyone in chat as well,
please feel free to follow any of our pages as well.
And ask questions.
Yeah.
There we go.
Okay, so that's Shannon Rodgers you see right there.
So Shannon Rodgers is a very close friend of mine
and she's also featured on the Travel Channel.
And she likes, I think it's the first episode of season two.
Shannon Rodgers, you know, for TV reasons,
they tell them how they tell them.
She'll tell you that to this day,
but she's a real great person.
I've done investigations for her.
She also helped us out with the
Masonic Temple in Solana, Kansas.
I took her there and a few others
and we did experiments and investigations
before we even did the paragon at that temple
and Shannon was one of them.
And not only that, we took,
after going to the temple,
we took like a four or five day road trip
through Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas and New Mexico
back there just hitting haunted hotspots
for like a three day, yeah,
which she says the season premiere there,
but we went like a three day of just haunting,
but just because, I don't know,
we just felt like doing it.
Just so we hit like all these different haunted locations
just for, I don't know, it was just,
it was great times.
And what TV show was that?
Oh, she also got, turned me and my wife
onto blowing at black cows in the field.
Is that right, Shannon?
She says that trip was epic.
It was something else.
Question for you, Robin asked, what show was it?
And my question for you was,
what was your favorite place on the trip you guys took?
What was your favorite location?
Okay, or if you're asking me the favorite location,
of course, the temple is always close to my heart,
but I'm gonna say on that particular trip,
it would be the Alva General Hospital in Alva, Oklahoma.
That place was intense.
And if I ever get a chance to go back there,
I'm going with Bells and Whistles.
Wow, say that, say the name before us one more time,
because you broke up a little bit on my end.
Okay, Alva General Hospital in Alva, Oklahoma.
Thank you, thank you, appreciate that.
Wow, so yeah, well, tell me,
so you were acting like being,
you've had some crazy experiences there.
Talk to me a little bit about some of the experiences.
Oh my God, yeah, see, all right.
Shannon says right there, Ghost Reared My Life,
that she was episode one of season two
on the Travel Channel.
Right, right, yeah.
Broke up the last time when you said it.
It was supposed to be about some guy,
I can't remember his name.
Okay, so.
Jack Roddick.
Yeah, Ghost Reared My Life, that was her.
But crazy experiences there, oh, let's say,
I mean, disembodied voices, well, all right,
first of all, it's not a hospital like you're thinking.
It's not, I mean, it is a hospital.
The building is a hospital.
But these people have turned this hospital into a museum.
Every room has dolls, has trigger objects,
has old World War II helmets, has, oh my God, it's,
Shannon, help me out here, just kinda help us
picture Alba General Hospital Museum.
It's, yeah, it's not just a hospital like,
yeah, they filled this building up with just trigger objects.
So a lot of stuff that we were getting there
was like residual off all that stuff,
like all the objects and stuff.
They even had mannequins of nurses
sitting at a nursing station.
Wow.
I think, when I was in Montana State, dude,
they had those like mannequins,
and oh, dude, I don't like those mannequins, dude,
especially at nighttime, like, nah, I'm good.
I'll do the experience.
That reminds me.
No mannequins.
That reminds me of a place in Cornwall that we did
in the summer, and there's a theme park at it
called Flambards, and inside that,
they have an indoor exhibition.
They call Britain in the Blitz,
for obviously, for people who know their history,
know about the Blitz there was,
and they have, excuse me, they have all the old uniforms,
all the old clothing that was worn.
A lot of mannequins set up and dressed in the old clothing.
They've got the old shops rebuilt and stuff like this,
and they've even got sandbags from when they were building,
like the walls of sandbags and stuff like that.
They've got everything in there.
They've got old bombs that have detonated and stuff like that.
Just, you walk around that place, and you think,
wow, there's an energy coming off everything.
You can feel it hitting you.
Yeah.
That is wild, man.
I had to laugh at that comment there.
I'm sorry, where Courtney's next.
The guy was for her.
On that trip, as for Shannon Rogers
was declared as the Cowboy.
Oh, geez.
Oh, man.
So tell me, as an investigator,
what are some of the tools that you like to use?
What's your favorite piece of equipment that you like to use?
Okay, so since my induction and the start of the network,
it goes to everything that people had
that you see, SLS, Kinects, all that good stuff.
And so I started mentoring other people
and other teams coming in.
So that being said, instead of like all these fancy
favorite pieces of equipment stuff,
when I mentor these teams and get these new people
in the field coming in,
and I steer them in the direction of the three basics.
The three basics, apparently, and they're not,
you know, anything else they get after the three basics
is a want.
And I, you know, if you, this other stuff,
if you get it, it's just because you wanna get it.
It's not because it's something that's needed.
So your three basics is audio, visual, and environmental.
So those three basics of equipment is
get you a good four different views.
You can also use them as X-CAM, static cam,
stuff like that if you wanna use them
on your investigations.
Audio, RCA, cheap digital recorder.
My personal preference is the old cassette.
The cassette actually, to me, honestly,
the cassette actually picks up EVPs better
than what the digital technology does today.
That's just from years of using both.
The cassette, the old RCA cassette recorders
like we use in college to record our classes and stuff.
Those are the ones that work the best to build.
And then when it comes to environmental,
environmental, there's several different devices,
but to save your wallet, I would go with EDI Plus,
which has got like five different environmental
pieces of equipment built into one.
EDI Plus, you got your temperature,
you got four or 500 bucks on one device
instead of two, 300 bucks for five devices.
So EDI Plus, but if you can afford EDI Plus,
trough meter or a mail meter,
I would say mail meter is probably the best
because a mail meter was one of the ones
that was actually designed and built for the paranormal
after his daughter, Melissa, to communicate with her.
I can't remember his name, the guy who invented
the mail meter, but that's a good device as well.
Gary Goulkin?
Yeah.
So.
Yeah, yeah, I have a mail meter.
So that's, I mean, so.
Right, yeah, so that's the three basics.
So I can't say I have a favorite without any of those three
because you have to have all those three to be a favorite.
I like it.
They all work together.
Absolutely.
All three of those work together.
I told you.
So my favorite would be all three of those.
I totally agree with that.
Now I know I've already asked you about
what your favorite was one on the trip,
but I'll wait a minute and I'll let Robin ask a question
because I have another question
that kind of relates to those two.
Well, go ahead, Robin.
Well, I'm gonna break into the actual,
the question that we're probably waiting for
is what can you tell basically,
can you tell everybody about Paralynx
and what actually had you come up with the idea
for Paralynx?
Oh my God.
So how do I get into this without starting
a big controversy?
Oh.
It was gonna happen at some point.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's so Paralynx of course is rebranded from,
yeah, without starting controversy.
All right, let's say I'll go back to the beginning.
So back, actually before Ghost Tech was even started up
and right around the time that I was starting Ghost Tech up,
I was in cahoots with four of the people
and that's, we kind of brought along the,
we, when we first started, we called
the Paranormal United Movement,
which we, our goal was to bring,
and this is the first movement of this type
because everybody else had their,
this is my area, your area,
don't mess with my locations and all that.
We had to break that.
We had to break that to where, hey man,
you're doing an experiment and stuff like this over here
and I wanna share my experiments with you
and we go together to the same place
and come up with answers together.
So we started the Paranormal United Movement.
God, 2000 something back there.
I don't remember the exact year, but,
so we come up with the Paranormal United Movement,
which turned into Paragunity as we know it today, I guess.
You wanna call it that,
or that was what one of the cows did just evolve
from that point to the Paranormal United Network
to where we started doing live streams
and putting live streams and we were the number two network
behind Paranormal Warehouse in the global market
at that time because we actually branched off
of Paranormal Warehouse.
So Paranormal Warehouse,
and I had a show on Paranormal Warehouse,
so we were kind of branched off of that.
There was a lot of other projects
that were going along at that time as well
and then Ghost Tech started up,
of course we were on different social media sites,
Amino, that's where I met Sonya.
Well, actually I met Sonya on Facebook,
on a group there, Savannah group, Savannah, Georgia,
but we started meeting people from all over the world
and started putting tips into place as we may.
And eventually later on with the right people,
it started to become the Paranormal United Network
and we just had shows on, shows on, shows on,
like we're doing right now,
second behind Paranormal Warehouse
and we were actually on and collab,
or with Paranormal Warehouse at that time
until we had our first event in CloudCrop, New Mexico,
which was a Paracon.
And then after that point,
we just kind of parted ways with Paranormal Warehouse
and just become Paranormal United Network.
And of course people have come and gone through the network.
Yeah, that's it.
So we got to the point to where we had our next
Paracon at the temple
because we had to reset, redo some things,
redo some ownership.
Yep, no, I totally understand what you're saying.
Yep, you kind of lost.
Yeah, I saw that.
So named Paralynx, if you take the mindset,
I'll name it after the phalanx.
The phalanx means army.
Instead of just straight army, we just put para to it.
So Paralynx.
I like it, I like it.
That's awesome. Absolutely.
I tell you what, you know, it's sad that we're not
to be a part of it.
Yes, we are very happy to be a part of it
and we're shouting out right now to it
because we are actually on one of the ton of Paralynx.
Paralynx isn't just one thing.
Paralynx is a bunch of networks.
It's like Paralynx one, two, three,
Paralynx plus, Paralynx live.
I mean, and then Steven, don't we have,
do we have another Paralynx as well, besides all those?
Or is that all the ones that we have?
That's all the ones that we have the channel wise.
So we have Paralynx one, two, three, live and plus.
But the main ones that we use is Paralynx plus
and Paralynx one and two.
Paralynx three is kind of just like a flow over
in case we don't have anything
because the Paralynx one and Paralynx two
are scheduled shows.
They have their own time slot, like a television.
And that's what they were designed for
is a television slot because eventually we're going to TV.
We're going to actual direct TV.
I mean, direct TV, Dish and what's the other, Slink.
That's the three ones that we're eventually going to.
And of course we're going to slick back some of the shows
and put them in a little bit more production.
And so that's why we've structured them into a time link
to get people used to these time links.
Yeah.
Cause we're eventually going to that format.
And that come up because we had a Roku channel at one time
and a Roku channel had to do the same, you know,
had to have their schedules.
And that's why we do schedules.
But after we kind of talked to Brian Laverty
and merged our support with each other, of course, you know,
they do, they don't have a schedule and all that.
So that's when we really started focusing on Paralynx Plus.
That way you get all these logs, whenever they come on,
anytime they come on, see what you want to watch,
same as their format.
So, and our plus is really taken off ever since then.
We owe Brian and Parapost Network all for that
and helping us with that.
But get back to Paralynx One and Two,
it's more designed for a television setup.
And that's, like I said, eventually that's where
we're going with this is to television.
That is awesome.
That is so, that's so great to hear.
I mean, I've checked out all the channels that we've had
and I tell you, they have some great, great stuff,
great content on every single one of them.
Even on over on right now, we're on Paralynx Plus
and I'm super happy for everyone who doesn't know
who's watching right now.
He's the partner up he's talking about with Brian Labrity
is with Parapost Network.
Parapost Network, we're actually live on there right now
as well too.
So thank you to Brian Labrity of Honophobia
for setting up this great team membership
of Paralynx and Parapost.
It's absolutely awesome.
But Robin, go ahead, man.
Ask another question, brother.
I was just,
I was just
thrilled
but I mean, we know
we're just happy to be a part of it.
And, you know, a lot of other teams are obviously
happy to be a part of it.
And we can only grow stronger,
we can only get stronger and stronger
the more we merge together.
And that's what we talk about at AGI
and that most of the time is merging together,
working together and bringing evidence together
instead of saying, you know,
oh, man is better than yours or, you know, or whatever.
You know, call out nonsense.
If you're gonna start getting on like that,
go somewhere else, you know what I mean?
Let's work together and let's showcase
what we can together and, you know,
this is the way you gotta do it.
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
All right, so instead of Brian Laverty
and Steven Woodard, because I'm a nobody.
I'm just a guy who owns and has the ideas for this,
but honestly, I'm just a nobody.
I'm nothing special in this field.
So it's not me against Brian,
it's not Brian against me, it's not us, anything.
It's look what we accomplished.
And it's not with just Paralinks, Parapost,
there's others involved as well,
is we brought communities together.
Yes.
We brought all communities together.
That within itself is practicing what we preach.
We preach Parayuny.
Absolutely.
We preach Parayuny.
It was one of the first people involved in Parayuny
and it's totally turned into something
that really was never intended to be.
I'm kind of disappointed to even call anything Parayuny
because of what happened with all that.
But practicing what we preach.
Let's bring these communities together.
That's the whole bigger picture.
So back in the day when we were doing this stuff,
we started at the team level.
Team level is bringing people together.
But now we're beyond bringing it to team levels.
Brian's got this whole community,
I got this whole community.
There's P3's got this whole community.
There's other people who have this whole communities.
So let's umbrella all these communities
into one big happy family.
And I'm talking about established communities
coming together as one.
That's total unity.
There's no division there.
And everybody, I don't think anybody is any greater
or any higher than anybody else.
I think we're all equal.
I mean, yeah, some people have more to contribute
than others, but that's here nor there.
But what I'm saying is the community's working together.
It doesn't matter who's ahead of that community.
And I'm gonna tell you right now,
the biggest thing that pisses me off
is this me, me, me, me, me, me attitude.
I did this, I did that.
I'm the creator of this.
I'm the, I do this, I do that.
And it was all because of me, me, me, me.
No, guess what?
All them people that are following you,
all these people that are in this chat,
if it wasn't for them, you wouldn't be who you are.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I fully agree with that.
It happens over here as well.
Like, you know, there'll be someone
who'll do an abandoned location that'll pop up.
And then, you know, they'll tell someone else
who will go and do it and put it on.
And then it'll start doing the rounds and stuff.
But then in all the comments, you hear all the bickering.
Well, I was the first one to do it.
Oh, no, no, no, I did it before you.
It was like, well, does it really matter
if you were the first or the last one
or the 300th one to do it?
It doesn't matter.
It matters.
Exactly.
It doesn't matter.
Exactly.
Who cares?
Like I said, I was one of them.
Just one of them.
One of many.
I wasn't the only one.
And I never will be the only one.
So, like I said, I don't even care
if you put that on my name or not.
I don't care.
But it was, yeah, who cares?
Who was the first?
Keep doing what you're doing.
Keep everybody together.
Because what you do, the me, me, me, me bullshit,
you're dividing.
You're pissing people off.
Yeah.
Plain and simple.
It's like Sonia said, all right,
I hate to, I'm not, Sonia,
I'm not gonna take credit for that
because it wasn't me.
It was all of us.
Of what she said in the comment that,
you know, they had two groups that I helped getting started.
Yeah, I helped.
I helped.
But it wasn't me.
It was everybody together.
Everybody together did that.
I get exactly what you're saying.
And I think that that's awesome that you look at it
like that because there is a lot of people
on the field that don't see it that way.
And I'm very happy that I'm partnered with somebody
who does and partnered with a network of people that do.
So, I mean, that's really awesome of you to have that.
But I mean, I totally get where you're coming from, man.
And I wish that we would all work together more.
I mean, if we think about it, if we work together more,
like everyone in this industry and this whole field,
imagine how much more we would accomplish,
the things we would create.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that's the point.
That's the point is everybody coming together,
working together and sharing and getting the answers.
Because think about it.
And I said this on a podcast last night.
I mean, the first thing when we go out there
and do all this is have fun.
If you're not having fun doing this, why are we doing it?
We're, I mean, yeah, it's serious.
And when we get into our, it is serious.
When we're trying to get our answers in serious,
but let's have fun doing it as well.
Let's not have sticks stuck up our rears.
Let's have a little fun.
Let's lighten up.
And that brings the morale up too.
So if you've got a team, yeah,
everybody does their job, does their job and all that.
Okay, we're good.
It's like a normal everyday job.
Everybody does their part.
And there's no time for being egotistical.
Everybody get together, have fun doing it.
And actually I have fun to share evidence
with other people, other teams.
I have just, I just have fun with other people in general.
I think like I said, if you're not having fun doing this,
you're not doing it right.
Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
I was, what I was saying was that
by sharing evidence with each other,
it's like we could further each other's research.
So why not?
You know, I think that's so awesome they do that.
Exactly.
And we do that all the time.
So what I was telling you,
I guess we go ahead and get into it if you want to
about what we're talking about earlier.
That's up to you.
No, please, by all means.
All right, so my team Ghost Tech
and Sonya, I'm not giving you enough shout out.
I know she's a great woman.
I've been with her for some years
and a lot of great people there in the comments as well.
Sonya is really great.
She's got great, she's really intuitive and stuff like that.
And she helped me out throughout the years
with different things and different people
and different attitudes and so on.
And she's an attitude breaker too.
So my team Ghost Tech,
and that's what we go under when we go out
doing investigations, private,
or even just even sometimes we do advanced stuff,
we go under Ghost Tech.
And that's where we kind of started out.
And there you go.
So we pick up different experiments and stuff
from different people in the field and share.
Well, one of those was the SD's method.
And what I was telling you, SD's method is just basically
noise counseling mics like I have here right now,
or any headphones, an ITC device,
SB7, SB11, whatever you wanna use
or like I use a radio hack shack, probably one of the best.
And you hook one person into it.
Well, my team took that to a different level.
So instead of just having one person there
and having people in the camera guess,
are they really hearing what they're saying
or are they just working off mic?
Or are they just hearing what I'm saying
as far as asking questions?
And are they just saying it to the device?
So what we did, we did an experiment.
What I did is took a three-way device
that hooks into the ITC device.
That three-way device is I would have two people
with noise counseling mics,
it's sitting in chairs opposite of each other,
back to back, but about five to 10 feet apart.
And then about 10, 15 feet away,
and you know how much cord I got too,
10 to 15 feet away, I would also have that ITC device.
I would have it also plugged into an external speaker.
That way the camera's over here
listening to me ask the questions.
And it's also hearing what's on the box,
but also that camera's picking up
what the two people are saying.
And 99% of what we come up with in that experiment was,
and we've done this many, many times,
and that's why I call it a big experiment,
because it's not something we've done once,
and okay, that's what happened.
No, we've done this, I can't count how many times
we've done it, but we've done it
with the results that we get.
You'd have the two people sitting in chairs,
they can't see each other, they're blindfolded anyway.
They can't hear what I'm saying,
they're noise counseling,
we're quite a distance apart.
We found out one person
would start answering, one person would finish it.
Or they would say the same thing at the exact same time.
Or I've also found out that one person would,
I guess, hear it, and the other person wouldn't,
depending on what type of the device,
or whatever was happening at the time,
one person would say something
and the other person wouldn't.
But 99% of the time, they would say
either the same thing at the same time,
or start and finish it, start and finish the answer.
And they were all relevant answers
to the questions being asked.
See, now that is so awesome,
like I told you back before when we started,
like I find that method awesome,
because obviously I've done, like I said,
the single method with just one person,
and me and my uncle have done it,
we've been very far apart from each other,
and we've gotten great things out of it,
out of the SMS and SD's method.
But that is just awesome,
because you're validating it even further with two people,
not only that, you're also hearing what's coming out,
so that you can make your own judgment as well.
And to find out that much data about what was going on
is just so awesome of you guys
to be able to find that out.
If you could, man, talk a little bit more about Ghost Tech,
and a little bit more about
what place you guys have been to,
and what you guys are doing now.
Okay, just to further, just to finish
what we were talking about with the SD's method and all that,
go to Amazon, it's about 9.99,
you get the three-way splitter,
three-way splitter, 9.99, Amazon,
that will get you what you need to do that experiment.
Plus, we've gotten many, many other experiments
from different teams, and even our own,
and that we do as well, and we do some
off-the-wall experience.
But right now, unfortunately,
Ghost Tech is kind of stale right now,
because we were working so much on the
networking side of it.
So we don't really have a whole lot of time
to actually go into Ghost Tech,
as far as going out and doing it.
I mean, I'm not saying Ghost Tech is done.
I'm just saying we just kinda hiatus at the moment
until we get the social media stuff going.
And not only that, I've got coming up next year,
and we're planning it today,
I mean, we're planning it right now,
is the 2023 FearFest Paracon,
which is an annual event that Paralynx puts on every year,
and we're doing that in New Orleans, Louisiana, 2023,
and that's, oh my God,
you talk about take up most of my time,
and that's, and when I'm talking to you guys,
I was in the middle of all that stuff,
doing the Paracon, getting things set up,
talking to Budweiser, Pepsi,
and big corporate sponsors and stuff,
trying to get that ball rolling on that Paracon.
It's gonna be a big event,
because we have people coming from the UK, Japan,
and so on, we have people from all over the world
coming to this event, so it's really,
that's gonna be awesome.
Oh my God, I mean, it's a monster of its own, so,
yeah, and that's, unfortunately,
that's kind of what my time has went into now,
is doing the advanced part of the whole thing,
is because that's what we do is like these Paracons now.
That is awesome.
It's just evolved into that level for us.
Now, if you don't mind me asking,
I probably missed it when you said that.
Not all.
Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Oh, I was just gonna say,
when is the event actually gonna be,
because I must've missed it when you said it.
Okay, so we don't have dates as of yet,
because we're still working on that part of getting it,
or locking down the actual venue that it's gonna be at,
because we have two places in mind.
And out of those two places,
so we have two tentative dates,
and out of those two tentative dates,
it's gonna be either the first week of October,
or the second week of October in 2023, New Orleans, Louisiana.
So,
once we get those dates locked in,
we will, as a matter of fact,
we just opened up the page for the Paracon.
I think we call it, let me say this right,
because I have to say it right.
It's New Orleans Fairfax Paracon 2023,
in October of 2023.
So, I think that's also how you find it
on the page on Facebook.
Also,
we're gonna have a website coming out pretty soon.
We're gonna start ticket sales
once we get a little bit more of the sponsorship coming in,
that we can go ahead and establish,
at least get the down payment
for the facility that we're having it at.
Now, keep in mind, the two places that we are having this at
is downtown New Orleans.
It's downtown New Orleans in the French Quarter,
right where they have the Mardi Gras parades and everything,
and all the shops and all that.
So, we're gonna have it at one of the two convention centers
that are downtown.
So, also, we're trying to coincide the event
with New Orleans Halloween parade every year.
So, they have a parade with the New Orleans style flutes
and everything that's gonna go right
by the convention center.
So, that means when we have this event,
not only are you gonna be at a paracon,
but you're gonna be able to go outside
and grab some beads and so on.
That's the experience of culture.
That is an amazing, amazing opportunity
to have a paracon right there too.
So, that is so great.
Super happy to hear that.
Thank you for showing that out to our viewers
to get ready for it.
And I'm kinda happy that it's time next year
because maybe I can get myself to get down there
and see it because I've never been down in Louisiana
and I would love to be, especially in the French Quarter.
But man, that sounds like an awesome time.
Yeah, if you've never experienced it,
it's something that you gotta do.
To me, that's a bucket list.
And I know I kinda went on with a tangent
about the paracon and you asked me before.
No, no, no.
The different places that we've investigated.
I've investigated Waverly Hills.
I've investigated Slough's Furnaces.
I've investigated, oh God,
I'm just trying to think of all these famous places.
A lot of famous places in the United States.
But what I like to do,
I don't like to go with the trend of everybody else.
I like to go to these hidden jewels.
You see, like the temple.
Old Park Hotel.
Now Old Park Hotel is a major venue now
that people from the Travel Channel,
all these shows have been there now.
But I started doing Old Park Hotel
before any of these people ever heard of it.
So that Fort Stanton, golly,
went to a lot of different places
investigating as a team, as the network,
a lot of different things like that.
Behind my house is Skinwalker Cave.
I got seven miles.
Skinwalker Cave, I've done that.
Got seven million views on TikTok,
whatever you wanna call it.
Done that.
There's Cloud Crop New Mexico.
That whole scene is surreal.
But yeah, we're not just the team that stays in the.
Oh, go ahead.
Sorry, I gotta ask you, how is Waverly Hills?
Because I'm a huge fan of Waverly Hills.
I've never been there yet.
I've been dying to go.
It's a bucket list of mine.
I gotta ask you that question.
Okay, so I did Waverly Hills.
It was a bucket list location.
And of course, I will not go back there
until Tina Charlie can get their building back.
Not going back there until they get their building.
The rightful property owners,
Denise and Ernie Pack, they know that we support them
behind them 100%.
Until the rightful owners take over Waverly Hills,
I will not do that.
But I was fortunate enough to be one of the last teams
to go in, or we actually had an event there.
So we were fortunate enough to have one of the last
events at Waverly Hills before all that mess took place
and they took the property away from the people who own it.
So just the investigation itself,
I mean it was, I didn't have as much activity
as I would have liked to have had,
but I did have activity.
And that's all you can ask for for that.
I mean, I got punched in the kidney on the third floor.
I had wonderful tour guides,
which was Denise and Ernie Pack and Beth Allen.
I wasn't the only one that got punched.
There was a couple other people that got gut punched.
And I had a crazy experience down at the end
of the death tunnel.
I was down there by myself with,
everybody else was up in the building.
I was down at the death tunnel for about an hour
by myself.
Had some crazy experiences with my camera
of just walking and just disembodied voices
and stuff like that down in that death tunnel.
And of course my wife was there.
My wife was pretty sick and she was in the, go ahead.
No, no, please don't finish what you're saying, please.
Oh, say my wife, she was sick there that night,
but we had, what do we have?
30, 40 investigators come from all around the country,
Ms. Fenix Jansen.
We had a bunch of people come together for that event
and it was sold out within the first week we put it up.
We put it up, come Waverly Hills, all that good stuff.
It was sold out right then and there.
Had everybody come, it was an amazing event.
Bart Costey, him and his wife cooked,
made a big dinner before we went.
Amazing people.
My wife would end up getting sick.
So she sat in the mortuary on this big leather couch.
So when we were going in and out of the building,
we had to go by her and she was sitting there
passed out on this couch the whole time.
And like I said, I had Ernie Pack, Denise Pack,
and Ms. Beth Allen were our tour guides.
And Beth Allen, she's also on the net.
She's one of the listing queens.
She was a tour guide at Waverly Hills
and just amazing person, the parathug.
She's one of my great sisters.
They were helping my wife out, making sure she was okay.
But she did eventually go up,
we did the Estes Method there as well,
the three prong Estes Method.
Yeah.
Experiment there in the operating room.
I think what I had,
cause there's many different stories about Waverly Hills.
I think what I had experienced with
was the spirit called William,
kind of by the elevator is an older guy.
Okay.
That was murdered.
He was a homeless guy there that was murdered.
And the rumors go they shoved him down the elevator shaft
and stuff like that.
I'm not sure exactly that's how it happened.
But the fact is he was murdered there on site,
him and his dog.
That's in, you can go back and find that in newspapers
and so on.
That's an actual event that actually happened at Waverly.
I think what happened to me getting punched that night
had something to do with that incident.
Even though we weren't provoking her,
it just, I think, you know,
maybe that was his way of trying to,
thinking I was one of the people and he hit me or something.
You know what I mean?
It was like that.
502 where the nurses was being hung and all that.
Yeah, I really didn't have a whole lot of anything
going on up there.
But I was given the correct story about it
than what you see on all these ghost shows.
So, and it's like Ernie said, I mean,
502 is actually just a bathroom.
It's got like seven, eight toilets.
So it's not a nurse's station, nothing like that,
that you hear on these tunnels or whatever.
It's up there where the children's wings is.
It's like Ernie said, why would a nurse hang herself
right in front of all these kids?
So there's a whole thing about that story
that doesn't light up.
So it's just a myth.
It's just, I guess, I think the way you said it,
a paranormal team went there
and that's what they got on their devices.
Okay, so I hung myself and blah, blah, blah, blah,
and that's what they were getting on.
Yeah, no, no, I totally hear what you're saying.
Hold on one second, I wanted to ask one question.
Tonya said, did you go to the roof?
Okay, so 502 is basically the roof.
So when you got a room 502, it's the middle part
where you see the building, that little middle part
that kind of sticks up in the,
that's 502 is right there in that middle part.
So if you go one way, you go to the roof,
if you go out the other way, you go to the roof.
So yes, we did go to the roof.
We were on the roof.
Matter of fact, I sat out there
and watched the moon for a little while
and watched somebody have their EAD stones.
Get parts up on the other end, watching the moon.
Yeah.
So yeah, I did go to the roof.
But also, like you said, Waverly Hills bucket list.
So keep in mind, when we do this paracont in New Orleans,
New Orleans, the city itself is a bucket list.
Not only are we having this paracont area,
we're gonna look at it four locations to bring for people.
We're gonna look at four locations in New Orleans
or New Orleans area, and we're gonna sell tickets
for overnight investigations at these four locations
that are in New Orleans for that paracont.
And whatever celebrity guests we have,
we may sell whoever to go to one of those,
have them lead up the investigation.
That way you guys can hunt with that person.
Wow, that is cool.
I mean, we got all kinds of crazy, crazy locations
in New Orleans.
Oh, that is so awesome.
That is gonna be such an amazing time.
Absolutely.
I'd love to go there.
Now.
Well, come on, get your ticket.
So again, please tell our viewers
when they can get a ticket.
Is it already coming out?
Obviously, I believe you said yes,
we can already grab a ticket.
But please talk a little bit more about it.
Please shout it out real quick and tell us more.
Okay, as of right now, we do not have tickets.
We don't have prices and all that stuff set up
because we don't have the event or the event center locked
down.
I've talked to Chrissy Baggett last night.
We were even on live about it last night.
And they're the ones working on the event center.
We're looking at probably two weeks away from right now,
two weeks away, and the tickets will start going sale.
So you can look at, just go to the Paragon page on Facebook
and you'll get all your updates there.
So like I said, we're about two weeks out now
from having vendor booth tickets.
Excuse me.
Two weeks away from having vendor booth tickets
and general admission and or VIP tickets.
Is we're looking about two weeks away
before those are ready to go on sale.
And like I said, we still have a whole year
before we get there.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Absolutely.
I figured that it's funny because I saw it actually a,
it's actually either a poster of it on I think Facebook
or someone posted something.
It might've been that when I'm not too sure
I couldn't be wrong, but I saw Fearfest.
I saw everything about it and the Paragon,
but I didn't put two and two together until just now,
if it was that from that.
So, but that's gonna be a huge event for all our viewers.
You're gonna wanna get down to New Orleans right there.
You're gonna wanna get down to the quarter right there.
It's gonna be awesome,
especially to have it during that time, man,
with the parade and all.
That's just gonna be such a time.
That's something you're not gonna wanna miss.
And then also getting the hunt
with the people that are there.
That's gonna be totally amazing.
Exactly.
And we'll have a press band.
Yeah, I'm super happy for you.
That is so awesome.
Robin, you wanna ask the last thing or?
I'll let you ask the last question.
I'm just listening to this
because my connection here is not great.
So it's taken a while.
Just all I wanted to really say was,
and obviously anybody in the chat,
anybody that's watching this and stuff
is just do the power unity thing.
We'll come to you, you come to us kind of thing.
Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, whatever.
Just, you know what I mean?
Connect with everybody and get everybody up there.
Yeah, amen to that, man.
And I tell you, my connection's a little waverly too.
So that's why I'm trying to catch everyone
to what they're saying a little bit midway.
But it's all good.
It normally happens.
So hey, that's what happens with stream cards sometimes.
Right?
Yeah.
But so Steven, so the last thing-
What a day of connection.
Yeah, day of connection.
Yeah.
The last thing I wanted to ask you was
talk about the Paranormal United Network.
Talk about where they can find it at,
what the places are,
and talk about some of the shows on there
that you should probably check out.
Okay.
Real quick, just to wrap up this event
in New Orleans type deal.
So we are going to have like a brass band there also
playing along, you know, like a brass band,
the parade, the whole New Orleans experience.
That's the whole thing about this paracon.
And that's, like I said,
that's what the network is really trying to bring on board
is that it gets experience.
We're actually, we're trying to celebrate that city,
celebrate the city of spirits.
There's, like Sonia says, she's so ready to go.
And I'm ready to go too.
I'm ready to have it there.
But okay, so Paranormal United Network,
or Paralinks.
We have,
we call it P1, P2, P3, and P+.
So we're on P+.
So P+, we'll start with that.
P+, is all your extra, your non-scheduled,
or just, let's say stuff from P+,
that's just all your extra, your plus.
I mean, that's what it is.
P+, it's all your, we even got stuff going on
for different events, lives, and stuff like that, your plus.
Of course, we have the live channel that,
we're trying to get that one launched
and get more people on there to share their lives.
So we'll start with P1.
So P1 is one of our scheduled channels.
And to find it on Facebook, just go type in,
Paralinks1, and you'll see the logo,
where it's the Paralinks, and you'll see the number one.
We have great shows on there,
like we had on Holy Trinity last night,
which is a very popular show.
Bigfoot and the Bunny.
Let's talk about it.
We actually have some newer shows coming on board,
with Shannon Rogers, she's doing a metaphysical show
coming up, I think her starts on November 7th,
or somewhere along that lines.
Let's see, oh, we have a lot of new shows coming on P1.
A lot of great stuff, a lot of forensics type shows
coming on now, instead of just your regular talk chat shows.
Yeah.
P2, so P2, let's go to that.
That's the P2 Grish, all Howard Petrie shows,
pretty much, you got Hey Boo, it's done by women,
for women, my wife is also one of the co-hosts
on P2, on Hey Boo.
You have Listen Queens with Chrissy Baggett,
the Miss Listen Queen, right, matter of fact,
she's in Indiana right now at the Para Unity event there,
and I wanna say Peru, Indiana is where they're having that.
She's already been live on our network once today,
at that event, so P2, Listen Queens, Hey Boo,
all Howard Petrie show, which is the Louisiana Swap Talk,
Petrie Dish, and God, I know I can't,
I mean we have like 51 shows,
so I can't sit there and name all of them.
Oh, between all the channels, it's like,
and like I said, yeah.
Yeah, I figured, I just figured shout out
just a couple of them for us,
I know, listen, we wanna shout out all of them,
I wish we could, I wish we could sit here forever
and shout out all of them, but hey, you know what,
let's shout out a couple of them,
because I want people to come there,
and at least look at one, and then be able to see,
you know what, let me check out another one,
oh, this one's kinda like this one, or whatever,
and see what their tastes are, because I tell you what,
there's so many different shows that are on there,
which are absolutely awesome,
and now you pair them all out.
Yeah, check them all out, I mean like,
and with all the forensic stuff coming on,
I mean, that's just gonna be so,
it's so booming, because people love forensic type stuff,
so it's gonna be absolutely awesome
to have all that on there,
but Steven, thank you so much for coming on, man,
and talking about, you know,
Paranormal United Network, talking about Paranormal United,
Ghost Tech, would you be willing to come back on, man?
Absolutely.
Oh, dude, we'd love to have you back on.
Absolutely, I mean, I'm, yeah.
Sorry, what were you gonna say?
No, I said absolutely, I would be honored to come on,
show anytime, and just my internet.
Oh, no, please.
I think we had a pretty good-
We deal with that.
Yeah, I feel like we had a pretty good conversation,
even though the connection was a little slimy.
We probably left a little couple awkward silences,
but hey, at least we got to understand
everyone's, you know, questions.
We got there in the end.
Yeah.
Well, Steven, thank you so much, man, for coming on.
Thank you.
All right, man, talk to you soon.
Thank you guys for asking me.
Anytime, of course, you're always welcome on the show.
Talk to you soon, bye.
Wow, man, that's totally awesome.
You know, I feel bad that the connection
wasn't that great for you as well, man,
so I feel kind of bad for you guys,
but I heard most of what he was saying,
so I mean, did you get to?
No, it was pausing quite a bit,
and I was missing bits and stuff.
I got the gist of a lot of it,
but there's a lot of it that I did miss.
That's why I was like,
that's why I said to you,
when you said at the end of the live,
I said, just you ask away because, you know.
No, yeah, I totally got it.
Hey, that happens.
I mean, when we're at the mercy of the internet,
I mean, we gotta deal with what we get, you know what I mean?
Because sometimes I talk to you on a personal basis,
I talk to you,
and sometimes we'll have like a bad connection,
so it's no big deal.
I mean, I had to put in it,
so I just want to shout out one more time
the Paracon that they're doing.
It's in Louisiana.
It's gonna be crazy.
You're gonna want to head down there right in the quarter.
So check it out.
It's gonna be in 2023.
You could check out the Paranormal United Network,
Paralynx.
You could check out 123, also Plus and Live.
Here, I'll put up the picture again.
You can find them on Facebook.
You could just find them on social media.
It's absolutely awesome.
Pairing up with Parapost,
which we are live on both right now,
Paralynx Plus and Parapost Network.
And also we want to give a shout out to P3
for having this on.
And also want to give one last shout out
before we head out to Todd,
our other cohost of Relatively Paranormal Equipment.
Head over to eBay, Etsy, Facebook Marketplace,
as well as Matt Barron from ParaVid Studios.
So go check that out,
as well as Media 13, our good friend Dominic.
And Brian, wonderful beer.
Yes, and Brian, Haunophobia.
So we just want to thank everyone for watching.
Appreciate Steven for coming on again.
And you've watched another episode
of Talking With The Source.
Later, guys.
Thank you.
Thanks for watching!