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What's going on everybody? AJ Capasso here from Coventry Circle Paranormal. I'm here with my friend.
It's Todd Silvia, Relatively Paranormal, Relatively Paranormal Equipment, and Wickedly Haunted on New Bedford Guide, and of course Talking With the Source.
And you guys are watching another episode. So Todd, today man, we got an awesome guest. It's going to be an absolute awesome thing just to get straight into it.
I'm hyped bro, I'm so excited.
Alright, so how about this, you give them the intro man. Give them the intro.
So, if anybody knows me at all, I'm a massive fan of the show Most Haunted, which was filmed in the United Kingdom, and they went to the best, like, top of the line, holy grail locations in the country, places that were like hundreds to thousands of years old.
And they would investigate with very little equipment and just get like the most incredible evidence, get stuff thrown up. It was just absolutely crazy, the stuff that they used to encounter.
And it's actually a place that I one day will get to because I absolutely love the United Kingdom. Now, on every episode, they would have a psychic medium.
And for several seasons, our special guest today, Mr. Brian Shepherd, was one of those mediums.
And what he would do during the episodes is whatever spirits he was coming in contact with, he would draw out their, their picture and he's a phenomenal artist so you would get like, I want to say you would do like a charcoal type drawing, and it would give you a visual of the spirits that they were coming in contact with.
And he did a fantastic job his readings were always on point.
I love the guy I'm so excited that he's on the show today. So excited. Let's bring it.
Hey, guys.
Great.
Yep, I'm good. You guys.
Doing good. Listen, I'm fantastic, bro. I got Brian Shepherd on the show. I'm excited. Well, you know, it's not every day you know I get people excited.
Maybe we should say again.
It's not just it's not even just the, the, the show that you were on it's it's where you live the locations like I'm jealous man I'm jealous you guys get to go to the most phenomenal locations in the world places with hundreds of thousands of years worth of history.
And you know we have some good places in America it's just it doesn't touch what what you guys have one day, one day I will get there. You just said it, I mean, Great Britain is a place with real history.
Absolutely. Isn't it, I mean you haven't got to go far before you fall over something, you know, ancient. You go into London and goodness me I mean, look how many places you've got to to explore to visit.
I mean it's incredible. Really, I'm so lucky really to.
You know I mean I live on the outskirts of London just on the edge of London.
And we do you know, not not for just the reasons we're talking about of course but I mean for leisure is a great place. It's one of the, I think anyway, I think it's one of the best if not the best city in the world for me.
And I love being various places, a good few places of course in the States.
And all over.
And I said I love it. I love being here.
And it's not even that you guys have Scotland Wales Island Island man which is where my family's from.
That's where my grandmother's side of the family's from. Well in actual fact I mean you've said that I've never, ever been to the Isle of Man.
I just recently come back from Ireland, from Kerry. Yeah, in Ireland and we spent a few days there in Kerry and went out to Cork.
I have course been to, of course I've been to Scotland, Aberdeen, Edinburgh, etc.
And worked there for both leisure and working for most on the most wanted show.
You guys would go all around. You guys would go everywhere. Wales, I've seen you guys go everywhere.
All over Wales, North Wales, South Wales, all over the place.
It never ends. The locations never end there.
Yeah, yeah. And it's great because they're places which even I wouldn't necessarily have gone to had it not been for the investigations within the most haunted framework.
Yeah, absolutely. You know, so I was lucky. I was lucky to do that.
And to go to, you know, Italy, etc. or whatever. I had to come to the US, for instance, doing the American leg, the most haunted, which was fabulous.
It was an awesome season. I saw that season too. It was fantastic. Doing the Stanley Hotel, for heaven sakes.
You guys went to Moundsville. You went to Waverley, right? Waverley. Oh, absolutely.
Have you been to Waverley? I haven't. Yeah, I haven't. It's on your list. It is.
It is. It's like top three in the United States. It's an amazing place.
If you're creative, if you're a perceptive person, it's an amazing place to be. I've never been anywhere quite like it, to be honest.
And then we are talking about the Great Britain, you know, the UK and everything that that has to offer.
But Waverley was such an airy place. It really was. It was so claustrophobic. Obviously a sanitarium.
But I mean, dare I say, you know, creepy as hell.
It's funny that you could use that the word claustrophobic would come into a place from the outside that looks so massive.
But on TV, from what I've seen, the rooms are small, the hallways are tight. And I could see where you would get that.
You know what, approaching it, it's this massive lump of a building full of, you know, eeriness and forbearing.
But you get there and get inside. And that's been fair. I mean, we weren't there in the sunshine in the daytime.
It was at night and it was the creepiest of places. It really was. I mean, there was stuff strewn everywhere.
You know, it was like a set of a horror movie in a sense. Do you know what I mean? Like a set ready to go.
So you were kind of there anyway. But then to be in the dark, nobody, like nobody on that shoot wanted to be there on their own.
No one. It was you got that feeling. You could feel the past, the patients that were treated there and what they were being treated for.
Claustrophobic, suffocation almost, you know, all these things were felt. Shadows, you know, rooting across a far part of a wall, you know, moving.
It was an incredible place. Now I want to ask you something. How does your gift work, Brian?
Like, well, it works in the sense feel. It's a feeling. It's a perception. OK.
You know, we're talking about what I'm an artist. We're talking about being an being an artist.
Being an artist is doing something you can see, is drawing something you can see in front of you.
Yeah. Whether whether it's some life photographs or whatever, whatever, whatever.
It's drawing something that is visual. You can see it. It's not a problem to do it.
As long as you have the talent for drawing, you can do it. Drawing something that you can't see is a different ballgame.
Oh, absolutely. That is a perception.
It's not a case of, you know what, I was at so and so and so and so. And, you know, I saw this person.
It's not it's not like that because you're using the word see and seeing seeing it is not.
It is a perception. And that's where concentration, being alone, being left to get on with it and explore one's own feelings comes into play.
You know, it really is what I wanted to ask him was you would draw the most detailed, fantastic, beautiful photos of the spirit energies.
Are you seeing these details in your mind's eye from from what they're sending you like emotion wise or because they would be such fantastic drawings and it would really bring to life everything.
Well, indeed, because it all works on on that psychic vibration.
That's where the concentration comes in. That's where being alone.
That's where not being surrounded with with with the litter of, you know, cameras or whatever, whatever.
They they need to be there. But some of those cameras were totally off set.
You know, they weren't being manned. So it was a case of being in a place on my own without the disturbances.
But as I say, what would amount to a television studio would would would mean.
So it is about concentration. It is about allowing those things to come through to you and come through.
They do not certainly not as strongly or every time. Far from it.
But there are instances when that did happen very much so.
And then you can get I think you can get a good visualization of a spirit, if you like, that inhabits that particular place at that particular time.
And that's the interesting thing. Where do these things come from?
You know, it where do they come from? Are they there all the time? Is it like a trigger? Could it could it be could it be released by anybody?
I don't know. To be honest, I want people say they can.
I think perhaps not. You know, I think suggestion is a big part of some people's seeing things, put it that way.
Yeah, you know, if we suggest enough, you will your imagination comes into play.
Oh, absolutely. You know, I mean, and also the whole thing with pareidolia, too, with us as paranormal investigators, we deal with paranormal, you know, pareidolia.
But I want to show the viewers what he was talking about about detail.
I have some just personal artistry that you do, which I want to talk about in a minute.
But I just want to show a couple of pictures here that you have up on your website of you that you've done.
They're absolutely astonishing. I mean, look at this. This is absolutely incredible.
Yeah, well, of course, you're talking about pictures that have been done because I'm standing in front of them.
You know, I know you have any of the drawings.
I was saying to the viewers, the detail that you were talking about, Todd, on the show, Most Haunted,
I'm sure like people can understand the detail of what you were talking about through the detail of those pictures right there.
Like that was just I mean, those pictures are amazing. You're an amazing artist.
And I actually have never got a chance to watch Most Haunted, believe it or not.
And I was telling everybody, like, really, are you serious? And I'm like, yes, actually, I haven't.
I was like, shockingly, I was like, I know a lot of the guys, obviously, now from doing this work.
I know Richard Felix. I know, obviously, Dr. I can't say his name, but Mr. O'Keefe.
Oh, Kieran. Yeah. Yeah.
And I always say it wrong. I didn't want to butcher his name.
But I tell you what, great people, like just just some great people just like yourself.
And it's just amazing to see the work that you do.
You know, that's why I wanted to ask you about your gift.
Is there now do you do readings for people outside of that work or do you only do it for like the TV show and for others?
No, no, no, no. I increasingly, to be honest with you, I increasingly don't do it.
But I am when I do. It's on a private level.
OK, I and that's it now. But then that's that's the state, you know, I'm getting older and there are certain things I do and don't want to do.
Like like all of us, you know, I mean, I still I still paint every day.
Yeah, every, every day. I mean, and I put things up on the website or Facebook or whatever, whatever.
But I try investigations or readings or whatever.
I mean, that's now a very private thing.
So people come to me because they've heard of me and want to engage.
And if I think I can do something, then I then I would probably say, you know what, we'll we'll get that a shot.
I see what happens, you know, but I don't I'm not looking for it.
Put it that way. OK, I know. I get it.
The only reason why I asked also was because we have a viewer that her name is Tracy Coleman and she asked, obviously, am I live?
And yes, we are live. And, you know, she lost him one very close to her.
And she wanted to know if we were doing a reading anything.
And I said, and I'm in, obviously, I didn't respond because, no, we're not doing any readings right now.
But I just wanted to ask her to see if there's a way for her to contact you in any way to, you know, to have a reading.
So that's why I wanted to ask that question, maybe to put her at ease or, you know.
Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm contactable, put it that way through my website.
Yeah. Hello.
Hey.
Okay, Brian. Okay, fine. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah, I won't I won't further that any more than to say.
I can and do, but it's very occasionally and it has to suit us both.
I have to feel that I can. But as I say, once again, I am contactable through my website.
Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that.
Robin, go ahead and ask a question because I know you've been waiting.
No, I just I was going to ask. I didn't really hear that much in the car and away home.
So I was going to probably already be asked this question.
But are you still doing medium work or? Yeah, I think that's what we were just trying to talk about.
Oh, right. Right. Right. Now on a very personal level, if people come to me with with a good suggestion and it interests me at that time.
And yes, I'm not going to strike it out of the question, but I'm not actually I'm not actually targeting for work.
I'm not actually looking. Okay. I'm not promoting myself in any way.
What I'm saying is I'm here. I am contactable. Some things interest me and I think I can I think I can be elemental and in an investigation.
And it's worth an investigation. Or frankly, it's not. So, you know, as it's really.
Well, try this one, man. Where was your favorite place in the UK that you that you were with? Let's say with most haunted, for instance.
I don't know. I mean, obviously, there were lots. I think the place I not the favorite.
I don't feel sort of like less favorite. I'll say something like Chislerhurst Caves was my least perhaps thinking about it.
And it always leaves a mark on my memory because for a sort of I hate enclosed cave systems and to be taken, if you like, up some back of the yore maze and left there in the darkness with maybe just a torch and a piece of a pad on my knee.
And then, of course, your imagination kicks in to some extent. And then, you know, I kind of I didn't feel good about that.
But that is because I don't like underground cave systems. Really. Yeah.
There were a number of places. I mean, you know, Croxteth Hall and Liverpool are all good places. I mean, with real substance there, if you like, you know, and as I say, a lot of those places were really good, especially as I say, if I could be left to get on with it, left alone more.
But some of these places I'd get to earlier in the day, you know, like in any afternoon of a filming which took place at night.
So then I could go back and kind of pick up what I felt that afternoon, because that afternoon, I could also I was the only one in the building.
And, you know, obviously, if they were filming a pre-recorded television episode, then it's necessary to have cameramen and lighting and your sound people.
And it's, you know, it's pushing it a bit.
So that's why I'd always approach it from the point of view of being able to access slightly earlier in the day. And, you know what, just seeing what's there, basically, you know, and letting that come across, if indeed there were anything.
Yeah, because I think there's one place in the UK that I haven't been to yet that I want to go to and I think you were there was Wootchester Mansion.
Oh, yeah, really? Yeah, I was. Why do you feel the way you do?
I'm just drawn to it. I'm not a medium by any sense, but I'm a sensitive and I can see and I can hear and I can communicate, not all the time, but sometimes.
But, you know, I mean, I've been to 30 East Drive three times, but Wootchester Mansion is just calling me.
Really? Well, I can say that I'm not going to spoil it for you or whatever and I'm not going to make any great claims either, which would be totally unfair.
Check it out.
I know what he's talking about. I'm not sensitive either and I feel drawn to the Sallie house in the United States for some odd reason, but I think it might be for something nefarious on a demonic level, to be honest with you, but it would be a long story.
Yeah, yeah.
Now I want to ask a question of.
So, from your standpoint, because we capture my wife and I, we go alone. It's just her and I on investigations. We do do like a local show, but we don't have camera people.
We use static cameras. It's just me and her in a location. We won't go there unless we can rent it privately, because like you were saying we want the piece to be able to do what we're doing without outside interference without outside distractions and we feel like the spirits
approach us more because we're by ourselves. We've captured images and heard voices from other things that whether you want to come demonic whether you want to call them interdimensional beings.
I don't know some of these things look like animals. Do you sense it and see any of these things in your mind diet some of these locations where thousands of people may be tortured in a castle dungeon or that these things really get drawn in there.
Oh, I mean, what can I tell you. Oh, we definitely straight up for me not just definitely yeah I've been in castles and things like that.
And for sure let me let's backtrack. Think about when you think about the sense of history alone.
Yeah, we're all aware of that. I mean if you go to some, if you go to a castle for instance or whatever you know with dungeons chambers.
You know to some extent what the history is. Yeah.
So you're so so you've got a bit of a sketch anyway to go on. But if you're there on your own and you can do it in that purest way by being alone in those places.
Oh yeah, I mean I felt amazing things. Amazing. I mean, even screams, people, the anguish that they must have suffered do you know what I'm saying.
What type of effect is like that you guys have so many layers of history like you might have a castle that was built on top of an old Roman compound from back then on top of this.
How does that affect your gift in the way you sense these things when you have all these layers kind of interacting with each other.
Do you know what the way I used to think about it. It's like, it's like the players, almost like the layers of an onion if you like.
There's another underneath it you feel off that there's something under that.
And you, you really get those come through. Sometimes it could be from, I don't know, near Roman times. Yeah, absolutely.
And yet, and yet you know that you know history what it is.
You can come right up through to Victorian times, or whatever whatever whatever you know, and you do get those feelings from various points in the past.
Some deep, some not so deep. I think it depends upon the trauma at that time, the trauma that those spirits were going through.
Oh God, some of the horrible things that used to happen.
In death or in torture, or whatever, the way they died has bearing on how strong that essence is now, and the way you perceive it.
Yeah, it's like energy is being released again.
Well indeed, as I say there's an intensity to it, you know, and there are different intensities, depending on the way people died.
The way they were treated before they died, the anguish they went through before they died.
Now I used to find that, oh go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Oh no sorry I just wanted to ask what was your like, scariest moment out of the whole, and to say I would just say out of not not just the whole show but just out of whole of life doing this work.
What has been your scariest moment.
My scariest moment.
I don't know I mean I've been, as I say, you know, if you want me to sort of say, if I went back to, if I go back to America, for instance, and think about the West Virginia Penitentiary.
Yeah.
I got some really, there were times when I was really scared for God's sake, because that place must have been inhabited, and I don't know too much about it, I obviously know it was a prison or the rest of it, you know violent prisoners there.
But I really did feel at one point threatened by a place threatened by a present by the presence of a spirit, which was intent on this year, frankly, on, on, you know, yeah, just that on this year, quite frankly, I mean I had locked, I approached a door there.
At one point, I had been sealed, or I jammed for years, and I hadn't bothered to free it freed itself upon touching it.
And the bolt slid back.
That's course an electric chair there, which says, they tell you that the big mound out in front of it is an Indian burial mound.
And you get that. Yeah, you're being there.
The big mound out in front it's actually an Indian burial mound.
That's right. That's right. That's right.
Yeah, that's, that's correct. And a lot of nasty stuff happened there. Did you go on the sugar jack. No.
It was like a wreck place but a lot of murders and like rapes would happen down there was a horrific place. So you see, and you see what that must have meant in terms of the intensity of, of, of, you know, a spirit, if you like, coming through at any given time.
I mean, some will come through fast, some will come, you know, slower than others, some not as clear as others. But you just know that this, this place is going to offer up so much, it's not true.
I just wanted to ask, like going back to the history like you guys have so much history there. My wife and I have a theory that the longer human is in spirit form after death, the better they can learn how to manipulate the physical world that we inhabit, like between the veil in their world.
Is that true like kind of like a piano player they start off they can play chopsticks. Eventually they're playing with an orchestra on a concerto is a spirit like that with a longer they're in that form without a body the them, because you guys used to get the most intense activity.
Yeah, that's the reason why. Yeah, yeah, I think it's, I think it's a lot to do with the, obviously it's a lot to do with the person.
You know back way back in history, the person that was whether they, and after death, after life, depending on what sort of person they were is reflects their ability to manipulate to manipulate the living.
Yeah, I mean, it's fairly obvious. Yeah, you know we're investigators if you like. We're there, we're there to do just that we're there to tap that source.
You know, and by doing so, we don't all together.
You don't necessarily know how that's going to come across.
Now we open ourselves up. Yeah. And sometimes that it's, it's not the greatest idea is chance.
You're allowing yourself to be, you know, taken over in inhabited manipulated by whatever's there.
Yeah.
That's not that that's not good at all.
It's, it's just that you're taking a chance, you know, really, by, I mean it's actually playing around with these things don't forget, it's not necessarily them who are posing themselves on us.
We went looking in the first place we are looking.
And in there is that certain element, you know.
Yep, yep, absolutely.
We talk about that all the time on this show how people don't realize what they're messing with. No, they don't do a lot of research they go out there thinking it's a joke.
Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, it's not. It's not a joke because it's not a joke. These, you're talking about history talking about living people at one time, you know now now deceased of course and for many many many years decay, you know, decades or whatever
hundreds of years, but what you're dealing with. We don't know exactly what you're dealing with, you know, murderers or whatever, that time, who would do anything, you know to destroy another person.
You know, dealing with you do not know what you're learning out of the cage at times.
Yeah, and then the fact that we can't see these things, and the demonic or these evil entities do come out as a psychic. Are you able to discern better like I'm the least sensitive person, the more I do this work, the more sensitive I become in a way.
But I still I wouldn't know if I had a demonic entity was lying through me through my spirit box, or it was a human person as a psychic Are you able to more easily discern the difference and would know that that's not a person you're talking to that's a demon.
You would know, eventually, if it were to be a person with demonic intentions.
Does that make sense. You say a demon. I mean, what's the demon the demons just the tag we put on something.
It would be, it would be a person in every case, but really, as I said, demonic intentions, evil intentions dark intentions.
That's of course not always the case with the spirit world.
Yeah, we spoke about this last week.
Go ahead, go ahead. Oh, sorry, the thing I was gonna say Todd you know how crazy that is because remember my medium data did a reading for you for that house.
And he just said exactly what, what we said, but well actually not what we said but what she said she said that you know it was a lady who was suffering from dementia, like like someone some mental illness was waiting for a daughter, and she was getting mad
and upset and scared because there was people in the house, you know, and, you know, in her territory and she didn't understand why and she was waiting for like her daughter or something, and all this stuff and it's crazy because they thought it was a demon, they thought a demon was in the
house because it the way that it was lashing out and stuff like that and it's just weird. It's not me the client said I never felt anything like that.
I know not you the client. But I'm saying what, what if though now, what if he's right to you know what I'm saying and it's like, what if, you know, this whole time we're putting that label on demons, and it's really just another person in life that was, you know, say, had ill
intentions, had demonic intentions. Well it's like what I told you about with the bully spirit we find that there are spirits that will bully other spirits and tell them they're demons and kind of make them mess with us or lie to us or whatever.
And it's just a human spirit being an asshole for lack of a better word, and lying to other spirits and saying oh I'm demonic or whatever. And they're just being a bully like they were in life, bullying death bullying life.
Exactly, exactly that. Exactly that. I mean you've just modernized the whole thing by using words like asshole or whatever but having said that, no no no no it's fine it's fine.
If you go back, back, back, back in time, they were assholes. But, you know, they were people who had bad intentions.
Yeah, we would do anything for their own ends. Yeah, there's no doubt.
Oh, sorry. Oh, there we go. Anyway, what I was gonna say was it's just a weird, like, synchronicity to me that Todd that's all I was trying to get to you know what I mean and that that because we just had this discussion and I was like, why am I why would she be
getting that and then the customer was getting something else like the client was getting something different and then he just said a synchronicity to what she said so that's the only reason why I brought it up you know because I as an investigator like I have to, you know, get a bunch of different
signs I just don't trust my sensitive ability to, you know, do it and I should but thank you for bringing that up because that just like totally triggered something in my mind.
What it comes down to Brian is my wife and I lived through a very negative and nasty haunting for like four years. Right. And it became an obsession really to kind of find answers as to what happened to us what really were we dealing with and over time, do a lot of research I read a lot of books I try to take everybody's
viewpoints into account and we come up with theories and then we try to figure out what's what and hopefully we're being told the truth by the spirit world but we know that's not always the case but it seems like the more answers we get the more questions we have because it seems to be getting
weirder as we go along.
So, that's why I was asking those questions you know like, yeah, yeah, no, no, absolutely and I totally I totally understand that.
And we say a couple years ago we started helping out families who haven't done research who don't do this who are being affected the way we were. And we're just at least trying to give them the validation that they're not crazy or help them anyway we can.
So that's why I like the more I can learn, the better I can help myself.
Absolutely, absolutely. But you know everything we talk about you know it originally. Let's be fair, we're not talking about myth, we're talking about things that came from life.
On this earth like we do now, you know, and as I say there were good people obviously lots of good people around. I like to think most people are. But there are people who think what, you know, why would they do that. They are just inherently evil.
I mean, modern day things we see every day on TV, you know, but back yourself back as I say back back back in history, they were there. Those people who had evil intentions to other people, and would do anything they could to destroy other people murder other people
or whatever for gain or whatever, to take over their soul, maybe even, you know, that they're demons.
I have a viewer question the viewer question is do you think spirits stay as they are when they passed, or after time can a spirit become insane or evil.
I think I think I think the intensity of one spirit could wax and Wayne over time, put it that way. I don't think one could become mad and evil necessarily I think that's too.
The reference is too black and white for me, you know, as I say I think there's an intensity about some spirit, or there isn't.
And most spirits a lot of spirits want to be back here with us communicating for most innocent maybe have reasons. There are things that that they want to tie up there are things that they've got left behind if you like.
But there are spirit, there are spirit world, there are spirits out there that are definitely dark.
And, and I've stayed that way over time.
And they're the ones, they're the ones to look out for, you know, that's where, you know, opening. It's like opening a can of worms internet. Let's have a look what's inside.
That's great. You know, we can do that for us, but but sometimes we open one, and we wish we hadn't. Yeah, because of the threat that it poses to the life that we live now they're living us ourselves.
You and your wife be going through.
Not you and your wife going through this period when you felt threatened and went for a very difficult time to suggest that very thing. You know there are elements out there, which haven't changed over time.
You know, maybe, maybe, maybe through intensity, we can call it darker, they become darker.
Yeah, there on that on, you know,
we must respect that and be very, very careful the way we tread.
But by opening ourselves up is the only way to access that that if you like the spirit world.
And by doing so as I say there is there is a certain amount of danger involved.
Yeah, we don't always like what we find doing.
No, no, no, I've been threatened. My wife's been threatened horrible things said to us. Well, they are raping her killing me like things horrible things that you do not want to hear when you're reviewing evidence, believe me.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I totally get that.
You know, by the same token I've had spirits that broke my heart listening to him in review, you know, things I didn't hear live that were heartbreaking.
Abby Borden, you know, she's been stuck here for a hundred something years and every night of the week people come in and ask her about the murder that she lived through.
And in the house, the Borden house, there's axes, there's reproductions of their skulls bashed in, there's autopsy pictures on the dining room table.
And these spirits are Roman pastors every day. And then people come in every night and ask the same questions.
Where's Lizzie? Is Lizzie here? Did Lizzie kill you? This that she broke my heart because she was like,
I'm so sick of this. You know, I just want to move on. I'm done with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, that's to say, that's very it's very interesting.
But that's a very known historic case, put it that way. You know, that's there are lots of others aren't as well known, but probably equally horrific.
No, yeah, no doubt. Yeah. And also, so even in our modern times, you know, we hear about these dreadful, dreadful things that people do, you know, on a almost daily basis.
And we're never less than shocked by it. So it's as I say, it's not that surprising, is it?
That, you know, if we start to look into the into the afterlife, into the past, that they're all there.
Some are very well known cases and some are, you know, have almost been commercialized, if you like,
and that lots of people have gone there to check it out and have wondered about it and have been amazed by it.
But quite frankly, you know, sometimes I wonder, you know, isn't there enough happening now to worry about as opposed to worry about the past?
But but certainly the past is still very relevant. It's relevant to the, you know, us and living day.
But and also it can also still pose a threat. And that threat is a danger if we don't know how to deal with that danger.
Yeah, it's a lot of them are very sad and miserable for sure being stuck here.
Yeah, it definitely would. It definitely would.
Are you able to help these spirits move on at all?
There we I think we've touched upon that natural fact in some of the.
Perhaps we did in some of the most haunted shows, I just try to think whether we did a lot or whether it's something that when, if you like, the cameras had stopped rolling,
we would try and do our best to put it that way. But yes, I have.
Where do you believe they go when they move on just out of curiosity? I'm not even talking from a religious standpoint.
I'm talking from a practical standpoint.
Well, I believe I believe they shift themselves. I believe they they're at peace, basically.
I think every spirit should be at peace, you know, and I believe they if we can help.
Yeah, learn to find peace. To find peace.
It seems like that's what they are really looking for is peace, honestly.
Well, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but as I say, if we're talking about those other darker spirits.
No, yeah. I feel that then, of course, they're still reaching out to us.
You know, they're still reaching across and in the middle of it, you know, in the way.
And the dangerous. And that's right.
That goes into that goes into the question I was actually going to ask because Tracy Coleman asked, you know, her parents, you know, she just had a someone passing her life.
And she said, do you believe that they're together? Her parents, they were they were together for 62 years.
Do you believe that they're that her parents are together? And I think so. I totally believe so.
And I know after what you just touched on. Yes, absolutely. Like they're reaching on from the other side.
She'll probably get a sign and, you know, keep eyes open.
So well, it's I mean, in a nutshell, I suppose it's it's it's what I believe.
I believe that as well. Yeah, I believe that as well.
And once they pass on, they can actually come back and interact with us or look in on us.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely.
Definitely. I do believe that.
I saw my grandfather's spirit when I was like nine years old.
He passed in his sleep in his bed.
And I was playing with my cars near that room. I looked up and he was standing there peacefully.
It looked like he was looking over me in a lovely way.
And he kind of dissolved the way in front of me.
And for up until the actual hunting we lived through happened, I thought that I imagined it.
Now I know I didn't that that actually happened.
And I don't know whether he's stuck in that home or if he's was just looking in on me from another place.
He didn't look tortured or anything. Look like he was just saying hi.
To be honest with you. Yeah. Didn't scare me.
Which was exactly the same thing with me and my grandmother, who in the latter days of her life was actually living with us as a family.
And she passed away in the house.
And one night I was lying in bed and I woke and she was seemingly, I'm going to say seemingly, in the doorway.
And she didn't look anguished or tortured in any way.
But it came across to me that she was there to give me something to, you know, reach across if you like from the squirrel.
And she just passed.
And give me something. Give me some knowledge or whatever, you know, and I'll remember it to this day.
I was startled and a little bit fearful, but she was there.
She was doing nothing other than standing there.
And I feel she did impart some things to me.
So, yes, I totally agree with you. That can happen.
I don't think I even had time to be scared. It was just like he'd been so newly passed.
I think at first I thought he was lying and still standing there because it had only been like a couple of months, if even.
Exactly. Yes, exactly.
Yeah, I've had experiences. So like that's why now I believe.
But, you know, it's just the investigator in me wants to also challenge everything.
But even though that, I know in my heart that it's happened.
You know, my father passed away recently to Todd, like I've had sudden I've had things that's happened like how your grandfather like that.
It's just like, oh, man, it's crazy. It's crazy when you have these experiences like I have them.
I have them a lot with my father.
And it's just amazing when you have one of these experiences.
And I believe that they do happen for everybody. It's a matter of do we look at the little signs, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you say experiences with your your father, your particular father, do you mean since his passing or while he was alive?
I'm saying when he passed after he passed, I said I have experiences with him and stuff like that.
And it's just, you know, it's amazing to have those experiences with the with the afterlife and.
Yeah. And did you feel that he imparted anything to you that you gained anything from that?
I do every single time. And I believe that he's like warning me about certain things that are coming in.
Like he's warning me about like this car accident I just had and I didn't listen and I feel like I saw it and I just didn't.
I just didn't listen. I still went against it for some reason.
There's like certain things he'll show like randomly from weeks and weeks and weeks. It's crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not just interesting. That's all I.
Oh, no, no, I completely fascinating. I love this type of stuff.
And I love to look at this stuff in like the most scientific way possible with energy and vibration, frequency, all this type of stuff.
And I try to use that into my investigations and stuff to try and say, you know,
because I do believe, you know, that someone like obviously your father and that's why you sound as though you're very close to your father while he was living.
That he and I think this I think spirits will do this. They will reach across and it won't be long after their parting. But like your father and like my grandmother, they want to reach across to give us something to impart something that makes our lives different and hopefully better.
Gives us a special knowledge. I think my grandmother, my grandmother was also a psychic. Now, I didn't say that before. She was also a psychic.
Now, whether she reached across knowing that I was susceptible to the same thing, I do not know.
But it now feels in hindsight that indeed that's what happened. So she was imparting something that she had and was very good at to me, even though, frankly,
AJ, at that time I was not wanting to be that receptive because I think I was 16 or something.
And, you know, having a psychic ability was probably the last thing on my mind at the time. You know, I was much more interested in more worldly pursuits.
I can elaborate on that, but I'm sure we all being guides, you know, I'm talking about. And having a good time, you know, and all the rest of it.
But nevertheless, nevertheless, I firmly believe that at that time she reached across to impart something that was important to her.
She also wanted to make sure that I was OK. That would be a long story. You just have to accept what I'm saying here that I was OK at that time.
Well, it means something that I indeed now have.
Yeah. Well, can I just say one thing that just really struck me? You said about your grandmother that she really wanted to make sure you were OK.
My grandmother and I were extremely close. She was like a second mother to me. She lived in a nursing home with Alzheimer's.
And even though she slowly went downhill, even at the end when like her mind was almost completely gone, I would still walk in the room.
And even though she didn't know my name anymore, she knew who I was every time like that, every time she knew how she would say something to me.
Like she asked me if I had a girlfriend from the time I was like five years old, she would say that to me.
Do you have a girlfriend yet? I knew that she knew who I was when she was at death's door.
I had gone home to eat and my mother called me up and said, hey, I don't think your grandmother's going to last.
You might want to get back here. So I came back and my grandma always worried about me.
I was going through a bad time and I whispered into her. I said, Grandma, I promise you I'll be OK.
Yeah. And she she passed like five seconds later. I like I turned around and she passed.
I almost felt like her energy lift up. It was like really probably the first or the second parallel experience I ever had just because I could feel the leave somehow.
The room felt empty after. And it just really struck me that you said that because that I believe that's one thing that held her there while I was racing back there.
Whatever you want to call it. And now my life is OK.
I got past that time and I almost feel like I'm glad I did even just for her wherever she is, if she's watching somewhere, you know, if I kept my promise.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it did. I was just saying that is something that stuck with me.
I was just saying about 16 then, you know, since so all my life, really.
But it's competent. It always comforted me to know that she needed to reach across and impart something to me that she considered to be hugely important.
In other words, from the spirit world to do enhance my life in some way.
And I feel comforted by that. Yeah, I do, too. I do, too. I completely agree. I totally do. I completely understand what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah. So you see, you know, how deep my belief is in in the spirit world, if you like, in the hereafter.
It's not just, oh, well, you know, having a good time. We're alive. We're alive. We're dead.
You know, there's something important to learn from those from those past lives if we could tap into it in the right way.
And I'm not just I'm especially not talking about my grandmother, but certainly during investigations, whether that be privately or doing things for both haunted or whatever.
The interesting thing is, what can I learn from the spirit world? Yeah.
What can I learn? A, how can I access it? And what can I learn without it being some kind of in any way danger to me or anybody else? Yeah. No.
Do you think that would? I'm sorry. I'll approach completely because that's the exact thing that I always constantly think to myself, like to myself.
Like I want to I want to I want to hear think about all this stuff in a deeper way. I want to think about it in a way that's deep where I can explain to people easily.
But it's still in a deep way where they'll be like, wow, this makes you know, like so I completely understand what you were saying the way that you do get it.
And I just like hearing stuff that when people are like that, they really take this to a whole new level because it is fascinating.
It's completely fascinating. We're getting responses through these devices. We're getting responses that are like complete sentences in some cases on a device that should not be able to do it.
I mean, you're getting able to get what you get. It's just absolutely fascinating. Right. But it's but in a way, it's the same kind of thing.
It's just the way we interpret it. You know what I'm saying? It's either coming into our brain as a message in that you can recall what they're saying in a sentence or part sentence.
I decipher it not only as that but as a visual. Yeah. So that's that's the only difference. Really. It's basically the same thing or receiving information from from the past from the dead from the spirit world.
And that's the thing. And that's what we're all looking for, because in many ways it can enhance the lives of the living.
Yeah, I totally agree. I totally agree. Through a better understanding. It's like history. If we read enough history books, we have a fundamental understanding of history, whether that be Tudor, Victorian, whatever, whatever, you know.
I don't know. But as I say, if we can actually approach and make contact with the spirit world. Yeah, you know, we've got that purity. It's coming straight into us. We're receiving that firsthand.
You know, we're getting information.
It's what we do with them. Now, do we. And you know we all see shows on TV, or whatever, you know, and some of looks completely
fucked up, frankly and funny. And I'm thinking, why, you know, why am I watching this? It's just ridiculous. Yeah, that's for fact, there is a real chance out there to do something or to receive something that is valuable to us.
It's like what our grandparents or whatever can give us while they're living. If you're lucky to have a grandparent of, I don't know, 90 years old or something and still got all their faculties about them,
it might be a bit decrepit, you know, or something, but their faculties are mental faculties. You think the information, obviously, they can give us then.
But if indeed they've been taken away before and they're now resting in the spirit world, why would we not try? Why would we not try our hardest to contact them?
Especially if we imagine and perceive that they're trying to contact us. Yes, there's no doubt.
There's no doubt. Do you think that when, like, let's say that you and I walked into a place, I lived through this, I know that this exists, you know this exists, we're true believers, we're wide open as receivers.
Do you think that when, if we had a pure skeptic with us who shut off to that, that they could affect the energy somehow where there's less activity because that they don't want to deal with that person's, the way they're shut off like that?
You know what I'm saying? I think I would try and approach that in a way that if they wanted to shut off or be total skeptic, I would try and divorce myself from them somewhat to try and get a truer insight into what, indeed, if indeed there were anything there in the first place,
a truer insight into what there was, you know, what can I gain from this place? In other words, don't be swayed by someone's skepticism.
Do you think the spirits are swayed by it? Do you think the spirits know when, like, somebody who shut off to it?
I don't see, I don't see any, you know, sometimes I just work on logic. I don't see why logically they would, you know what I'm saying, why. They might be aware of the person.
Yes, I mean, aware of it. So, they have such a little energy, like, do you think they're like, well, I don't really want to waste this little bit of energy I have on this person just came in, a skeptic, saying nasty stuff, like, if you're here, come out and show me, you know.
That's why so many people walk away and say, didn't see a thing, didn't hear anything.
That's what I was getting at.
You see what I'm saying? Why would they bother? Why would they bother?
That's what I'd say, yeah.
You know, they have no antenna up. They're not even laying their self open for anything, are they, other than, told you so, told you so, you know.
Yeah, no. And that's how they live their life too, so.
Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely. So, I wouldn't, you know, that frankly wouldn't put me off and I don't think, you know, there's any danger of the spirit world being put off by someone like that because there would be lack of communication.
Yeah, no.
Or no communication, because it's not worth it.
Exactly.
I wanted to let you know, it's coming up on the hour mark right now. We're at 58 minutes.
Oh, come on, man.
I want to ask Robin real quick. I know, seriously, it was way too quick. I want to ask Robin, do you want to ask the last question before we head out?
Yeah, well, I was just going to ask to elaborate on what we're talking about, Brian, as in, say, family members who have passed, like say, for instance, in my family, very few, if any, in my family are believers of the paranormal, apart from me.
So, if anyone, in your opinion, if anyone from my side of the family who's passed was able or wanting or both to come back, would they be more likely to come to me because they know that I can do that?
Or would they be more liable to go to someone who's not a believer and show themselves to prove it? Or does it not really matter?
I think it does matter. I think the short answer would be that would come to you and not somebody who is a disbeliever.
It's like because you are being receptive and they are not being receptive. It's like an airway signal coming to a radio rather than your fridge.
I mean, it's not meant to be. You are the receiver. You are the person who is laying yourself open, who is doing everything in your power, if you like, or you can do to accept that information that you think is out there and wants to come across to you.
Why would it happen to someone who isn't? You know, I don't see it myself.
No, it's just... I'm going to give you a hand.
No, I'm sorry. And people do make claims, don't they? Oh, you know, I was so-and-so-and-so-and-so and it was dark at night, you know, it was a churchyard and, you know, I saw something as a ghost, actually.
I'm sure it's the ghost. Yeah, sure. But I don't necessarily believe all that. I think, you know, we hear too much of that sort of thing.
I think the spirit world is more meaningful than that. It's there to come across to give us information and it's wanting to do that to people who are receptive enough to, you know, people, as I say, be able to receive that kind of information and, you know, do something with it.
Yeah.
I don't believe, as I say, you know, you're verging on sort of supernatural films or horror films or something if you believe, you know, anyone could stumble over a ghost if you like.
I just don't think it's going to... I just don't necessarily think it's going to happen. I really don't.
I mean, there are lots and lots and lots of cases, let's be fair now. We're only talking... and you're talking to me because, you know, I was on a TV show called Most Haunted and that's where you happened to see me and prior to that, you know, I was a very private person and yes, doing psychic work and all the rest of it.
But, you know, I've always had the best intentions at heart, if you like, you know. Once you went to an actual flat, do something in a commercial sense like go on TV or make a film or do whatever, whatever, then of course you enter a different ballgame because you're putting your head up above the parapet and critics out there are...
some people are going to love you and some people are going to hate you and say, you know, you're a fake or you're this or you're that or the other. And that's why quite frankly, I've never courted going back to doing that sort of work.
And I'm not doing it now, you know, I'm not courting that. I'm not looking actively for that sort of work now because I have my own beliefs and they're rooted and they're meaningful. I know what sort of person I am inside.
You know, I don't mind criticism to that degree, but why should I go looking for it? You don't understand?
I always thought you came off as very genuine, Brian, if that means anything. For me, I believe that a lot of people do like everything. Like I was a car salesman with a lot of people. I always thought I was lying when I'm not that type of person.
There are some people out there who pretend to be mediums, but you always came off extremely genuine and caring towards the spirits. And that's why I really enjoyed watching you when you were on the show. And the fact that you brought in your beautiful artistry to really just gave another layer of entertainment and just, I don't know, it just brought me closer to the experience you were having.
Well, then, you know what, then that's great. And, you know, I've achieved something, if you like, you know, because I do, I am a genuine person. I am a person. I'm hopefully a good person. I'm not out to deceive anybody. I don't want to do it.
No, whether that be in a psychic way, or any other way. I don't want to do anybody or deceive anybody. I am what I am. You can see my artwork, either you like it or you don't like it. You know, I'm not out to deceive anybody.
You know, nor am I, you know, in the psychic sense. I do receive things. I genuinely believe I have in the past received messages from the past, and they have helped me through my life and given me a better understanding of a lot of things.
So I don't want to be associated with any charlatan or fakery. And so when earlier, I think we were talking about most haunted and perhaps we weren't on earth and generally, but, and there are noises in the background of things being thrown or whatever.
As I say, I was, I'm not aware of those things because I didn't enter that situation to be aware to be. If I had not if I had thought, you know what, this is all the sets up and it's trickery.
I wouldn't want to part of it.
Yeah, I don't love TV, and not to want to, you know, do people and be labeled a charlatan.
Yeah, means nothing to you to be on there. So I tell people, I'm almost 50 years old, I got better things to do than the hoax evidence for YouTube.
I can give a rat's ass about YouTube, or any of that. That's not why I do this.
You know what, I have better things to do as well. I really do.
You know, lots of lots of interest but I would never set out to do anything to deceive anybody and I don't want to. I never have the whole start now. But hopefully the information or that you know I've given you or the questions that you're asking I've answered.
Believe me, I've answered to the best of my abilities.
Absolutely.
I mean, I really enjoyed the conversation.
I always thought personally that that you and David Wells were the two best mediums they ever had. And let's face it, they have been through quite a few mediums on that program.
But I always thought that out of all the mediums that they've used that you and David Wells were the most genuine. And like I said before we'll come on there, you brought something to the table that nobody else brought.
You didn't just explain what you seen, you were able to put it on paper. And that was to me that most haunted. That was a game changer.
Yeah, well it was a different slant I suppose from that point from that viewpoint.
It's something that, you know, was quite natural to me, but not necessarily natural to lots of other people watching because they don't know, hang on, this is a bit different, you know.
Let's see what this guy can do. Well, that's what I do.
You just read my mind, you freaked me out, Rob, you just freaked me out because I was just thinking the same thing about him and David Wells were really the only two mediums that I really, really enjoyed watching on the show.
I always thought Derek Acora was way over the top and I think he got caught doing something too. I don't know, I'm not there, it's not my business.
But I didn't enjoy watching him. I didn't love watching him, but him and him and Brian and David, I loved watching them. They came across as genuine and real and I don't know anything about, you know.
All I can say there is I don't want to badmouth anyone off the tour obviously, but Derek Acora, you know, God rest his soul because he has died now.
He was a showman. He was much more, you know, he was a showman. He was everything that I'm not. He was a showman.
But yet I despised watching him and I enjoyed watching him. I despised watching the first five seasons. I like everybody else, him.
Yeah.
Fast forward past his walkthrough every time.
Now whether he had any other ability, I obviously can't say because I had very limited exposure to him.
They still give him shows all the time, all the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was a showman. He's everything I'm not and will never be. You know, I do that through the work that I do, whatever work that might be.
Yeah.
You know what?
He's keeping you brother. I love the way he came across. So you keep doing you.
You want to know what too and I love the genuineness of you. I mean, you've been an awesome person since the minute we started speaking even backstage.
I mean, we appreciate that so much. Would you feel free to ever come back on?
Of course. Of course. Look, I can only thank you very much. And you made some lovely comments about, you know, my abilities.
You know, whether that's, as I say, the psychic drawings or, you know, or whatever and my own and my straight down the line artwork.
Of course, I've enjoyed talking to you and as I say, I'm always always glad to answer some questions, you know.
Yeah.
Okay. No, it's been lovely, guys. It really has. I appreciate the chance to come on and answer that.
And it's been.
Thank you. Thank you.
Seriously.
It's been fun.
Thank you.
It's been an absolute pleasure, sir. Absolute pleasure.
Take care.
No problem. See you. Bye.
Hey.
Oh, that's so cool.
Fantastic. Fantastic. Yes.
Everyone at home. I want to show his art real quick. Again, this is how.
Did you find any of his spirit work show? Find one of his drawings of a spirit.
Fortunately, I love these before I started and I just did it off his website. I didn't find any of the spirit work once, but I will try to put them up on talking with the source page.
Listen, that lights out like like like really like when I say like it brings you into what he's experiencing, probably as close as you're going to get because they was such like knock them out the park like like detailed.
I believe I thought that's when I believe it was like the charcoal drawings that were fantastic.
I mean, go back to that other one, AJ. The one that has the shop on it.
That one. Yeah, that one. I mean, you know what I'm going to say, I'm no expert in art at all, but the brickwork above that shop like the great brickwork.
I mean, look how he's made it even look so old.
Look at him now and the light is reflecting off. It looks kind of like two.
Looks old. It's probably a thousand years old or something. You've asked it over there. Everything's like.
This was the best part. My favorite part of Most Haunted was in the beginning when a vet would come on and she'd be like, and this place is relatively new. It was built in 1585.
And I'd be like, you know, I'd be disappointed when she'd say, oh, this place was built in like 1890. I'd be like, oh, man, last week, the place has been built in 1200.
Right. I mean, like, that's what we're talking about. Like, if you don't understand at home what that show was like, the history there goes back so damn far and the layers are so deep.
That's why I asked the question, like, how does that affect you? Because there's so much there.
That could be anything. He gave us so much information, too. And like, it was great to just think about because he was just like fantastic.
And he did. He was so like in depth with everything. Like I constantly talk to Robin about. Right, Robin? Like I constantly just like talk to you about that type of stuff and have him on to talk about it was just absolutely awesome.
But thank you. I mean, I I wanted him from for a while now.
And, you know, the one thing that I will say about about Brian, apart from being a nice fellow and apart, you know, he's going to he's agreed to come back on again and stuff. But he's one believer.
He's one of the easiest people to contact. He's got a website and on his website, he's got his phone number.
And I've been I've been in touch with him for a couple of weeks now.
Don't tell us he will be calling the poor guy up asking him to do readings.
But honestly, honestly, it's some people that that I've tried to contact.
I'm even going to say some people that we even had on the show already.
They've been an absolute bloody nightmare to contact.
You know, I mean, you've been trying. Yeah, but you have to understand, though.
You have to understand most people don't want nothing to do with the public. And when they're big like that, they have tons of people that just want to have readings, just want to have things done.
So that's why they do that. That's why it's a nightmare to try and contact them.
Yeah, right. Because Brian has it. Brian is just an awesome, genuine person.
It doesn't care because he even said it right in the show. You know, you can contact me through my website, which is true.
And, you know, most of them are like that because they're scared because a lot of people are kind of crazy nowadays. Like you never know. Yeah.
Yeah. The thing is, the thing is, like, it was bad. Listen, we'll get into this conversation after we get off the show because you're going to get in depth with it.
I could feel it. So no, no.
Intro with me. Thank you guys for joining us again. This is another episode of Talking With The Source and we will see you next time. Later.
It's been real.
Yeah.