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What's going on everybody AJ Capasso here from Talking With The Source. I'm also with Covertry Circle Paranormal and I'm with my good old friend Robin from Half-Firm Paranormal and Talking With The Source.

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And Talking With The Source. I love it. I absolutely love it. It's genius. It's yeah right. That's what I'm saying. I was actually making fun of you earlier about that with the voice thing. I was dying.

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I was coming up with all different intros today. I was like I gotta make fun of Robin somehow live after what he did to me last night on Facebook.

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On a better note, I just want to give a shout out right now to Paralynx Plus. We are live on Paralynx Plus right now.

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And then we also are live on Parapost Network which is linked up with Paralynx. Paralynx has Paralynx 1, 2, 3 plus live.

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We're also a partnership with P3 program and like I said we are streaming live on Parapost Network which is also on Facebook.

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And you better go get the Android or the iPhone app. It's free on Google Play and on iOS.

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So head over to Parapost on the app and make yourself a profile and come join us and a bunch of other enthusiasts and teams and you know post your stuff.

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It's like a little it's like a little Facebook right? Show your evidence. Show your evidence. That will see your evidence. There you go.

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I like it. Or that it's sounding rude. That will see yours and we'll let you see ours.

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Oh watch out. As he drinks Coke in front of me when he knows it's my favorite drink. I'm not I'm going to keep it PG. I'm not saying nothing.

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Anyway yeah you know what screw you. Anyway I want to give a shout out real quick to Todd and Marissa over at Relatively Paranormal.

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They're not with us right at the moment but they have a store eBay Etsy Facebook Marketplace.

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They have SLS cameras that are just going out of style right now with such a great price lower than three hundred dollars.

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So head over there. Excuse me. They have a bunch of other stuff as well and we're just super excited about this.

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Today we have a guest that is a legend in her own right who we'd love to just make her feel this important.

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Her name is Patty Adams of G-Team Paranormal Investigators.

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Unfortunately her her daughter right now is out enjoying her birthday money but hopefully she could pop in.

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If not happy birthday to her. Hope everyone can wish her happy birthday in the comments and let's bring her in.

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Hello. Hi. Hey everyone. How are you. Good. Good. How are you doing. Yeah. All right.

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Thank you for having me and it's not it's my daughter's daughter. My granddaughter.

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Get with it. Your granddaughter. I'm sorry. I forgot. Yeah. Your granddaughter. So everyone please wish her.

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She turned 16. I totally forgot. I feel like I really do. I don't know why.

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You got to get used to it. You know I mean it's me.

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It's me. I get amused by going like this Patty outside of screen.

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Don't mind me. I don't know. Don't mind me. Anyway the first question I want to ask you Patty was how did you get into the paranormal.

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What got you into all this and what made you go down this journey.

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Well I got into the paranormal shortly after my son passed away.

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He died by suicide and almost immediately after he passed away he started coming to me and my daughter every way he could through the radio through the TV.

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In pictures and recordings everything just any way he could.

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It just things kept happening to us. The kids were claiming they seen him in the middle of the night standing in their rooms just so much.

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And we decided to start setting up cameras and recording things.

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So that's what we did and we started catching some stuff on camera. We then bought a spirit box started using that as well when we learned about the spirit box and just learned how to listen back and you know figure out what what was being said.

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And it was it was pretty clear to us both. It was like almost like we were just naturals at hearing it back.

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You know I know a lot of people have a hard time hearing it but we just we just kind of we were like do we really hear this. Is that what that says you know you know and we were doubting ourselves at first but that's what it sounds like it says.

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I'm like well yeah I agree you know so anyway long story short that's when we started our the G team paranormal.

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We wanted to share this with the world we wanted to share what was happening to us and our story with the world and you know I didn't know I was going to even get more than 100 followers you know I mean I just it was a kind of like a hobby because I always had an interest in the

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paranormal anyway. Same with my daughter we always had an interest in it. We're both gifted especially her and my son was as well. So it didn't surprise me that he was coming through. I mean he was one of those guys that would sit around watching

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paranormal channels on TV all the time you know before he died all the time. He was a ghost adventures and whatever was on he would watch it. Yeah he was just really into that. So and he was also very gifted. So anyway that's what got us started.

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That was that was it. That's why we started on YouTube. Well again I'm sorry to hear about your son's loss. Every time I talk to you about it it just it's a wrenching feeling in my heart because you know we've talked deep into it you know my story and yeah it really hits home.

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But what I want to say was so what was your first piece of equipment like what you said spirit box I know that but was that your first piece of equipment that you started using to connect them.

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Yeah camera first and I and spirit box yes that was my first piece of actual equipment. Yes it was a spirit box and a K2 meter I bought them both at the same time. So that was my what I started with.

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And those are my basics that I use you know more than anything else I guess because that's my comfort zone that's where I started that's what I started using in the beginning. I'm added a few more things to it now but that's what I feel the most comfortable with especially the PSP seven spirit box I've tried other spirit boxes I even have other ones.

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But that is my go to spirit box because that's the one I truly believe in and it works very well for me I hear you know I can hear full conversations in there from spirits. Yep no I completely understand that is became my number one as well I mean he was my number one but I moved away did some apps for a little while.

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But now the PSP seven I mean it's just a recognizably authentic way to communicate that is kind of like it's undebunkable for the community that makes.

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Yeah, going to use an app it doesn't matter what response you get it's not good enough but if you get it on the SP seven in the paranormal field. It's good enough for the community you know but that's not the reason why I personally just use it but it's I wanted to show people like

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listen if I can get it on my app that I can get it on this then you're I'm showing you that both work it's just a matter of your connection, you know, right, exactly. Yep. Yep.

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But anyway go ahead Robin.

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I was just going to ask you Patty a question that I've only asked a few people but I'm going to ask you is what do you believe happens to us when we do pass because like you said about you know your your son was into the paranormal.

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So he basically came back and was like was like communicating so do you believe that we're all able to do that when we go but only some choose to or what way do you look at it.

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That's exactly what I believe you what you just said. I believe that we can all do it but if some just choose not to for whatever reason.

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We may never know that until we're there. But I just believe that they can choose whether they want to. And of course some I believe that when they when they cross over they have to go through a life review and things like that and and you know have to go through certain things.

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Healing and just stuff like that on the other side before they can come back and communicate. But I believe that they have free will and that they can come and go as they please. That's what I believe you know.

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Everybody has this assumption that you know when when we do eventually go it's just going to be like they go on the sleep like just shutting your eyes and it goes black and that's it.

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But you know obviously from from what we do we know that that's not really it. But we don't actually nobody knows really how you transition from being able to well obviously when you're alive and then being able to communicate and live when you're actually dead.

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If you know what I mean. It's it's a lot of a lot of different people have different. I agree. And you know and you know on that topic if you think about all the people out there that have had a near death experience that tell their story and it's all over YouTube.

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You can watch it it's on TV. There's people talking about it everywhere where they've had there's even been movies made about it where people have had near death experiences where they have died and came back to tell what they what they saw and how they could still see us see their family and things like that.

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And they saw the angels and they saw this and they saw that and they're they're all telling pretty much the same story. Everybody's stories a little different. But basically it is the same. So you know you got you know there's thousands of people that have had experience.

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They're all telling this pretty much the same thing but different different little bit different but the same. You know what I'm saying. So yeah.

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Totally agree because I mean when I had my experience I mean I didn't see you know angels or anything along that I saw you know a couple of things I'm probably I probably told you about mine.

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You did. Yes. And you know it was pretty intense. I wanted to kind of dive into some of what one of the viewers just said test for four four four said hey to you first.

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Then she's my bestie. So Christian cool test says maybe some people that were religious in the physical world are against communicating after they die.

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You know what's crazy is that that's actually a very good theory because I always wondered why I can connect with some people on spirit box like say loved ones.

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But then some I have never connected with. But yet the other ones come through on commands. You know. So I wonder if that that could be. That's a very good theory.

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And I like it could very well be. You know she's right. It could very well be. I mean what is your take it off with the parents what religion you are.

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Because I know that some religion I mean I know that even personally me I've been on investigations and I've came across a priest that's trying to communicate and stuff like that.

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So yeah I think it all just depends on on the actual religion religions. Yeah most religions actually do.

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Catholic they believe in it Catholics do because if you think about it the Catholic is the one that with the priest that comes out and blesses your home and they do the exorcisms and things like that it's Catholic priests.

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Jins and all different types of stuff along those lines. Well I'm wondering if a lot of the demons that we so-called face that are afraid of holy water that are afraid of this Catholic type you know things.

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I wonder I've always thought because I'm speaking to certain mediums that these are thought forms that we have manifested and created over thousands of years from fear negative thinking from the way that the church put it in the minds of people thousands of years ago

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to not turn away from that religion for so I would say greed and money purposes of my mind. But I wonder if these thought forms are affected by a lot of the times you know the holy water and the priest and the exorcism because of the fact that you know that was so prevalent for so long

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and that Christianity is so high up food chain of religions. I wonder if that's the reason why these thought forms are kind of hurt by those things you know it's weird to think about theory not saying it's you know 100 percent real or 100 percent true.

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But I think about that I wonder why that is because I wonder if you know these demons from other cultures if you came out then with the same you know type of religious background as Christianity would it be affected.

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You know yeah you're right but you know I think sorry I do not think as well though that the term demon and demonic is thrown about way too often these days.

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You know at the end of the day I don't dispute that maybe you know obviously there is like demonic forces out there but a lot of it could be individuals who had an evil mind in life who also have an evil mind and death but they're not a demon but because they've got bad intentions

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to come across that way rather than actually being a demon. Yeah I think that's 90 percent 99 or 95 percent of all cases that we hear about demons. I truly believe that it's really just that excuse my language but a douche bag of a spirit.

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You know someone who's an idiot in life who wants to be an idiot and death and a power of not being able to be known or seen or you know I mean how many times have you gotten through the box.

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I'm a demon right. I know I know you really think Patty that it's a demon. No if it's a demon they're not going to tell you it's a demon they're not going to tell you that.

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Thank you so much. That's exactly what I said. I mean tell me so what's some of the darkest things that you've encountered since you've been doing this for so long and I know you just came back from Bobby Mackey's which we'll talk about later.

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But what was some of the darkest stuff that you've dealt with. Well I've dealt with.

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You know the shadow figure that pretty much ran me out of a cemetery especially when I got pushed down. I know a lot of people don't believe that that really happened but it really did. You know I don't know I can't explain it.

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What I felt something pushed me. But and I and I hit the ground. But that was one of the worst things I ever had happen. And that was at this place we call the shadow cemetery.

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But, you know, and that was that was probably about four years ago but anyway, that but I've had a lot of experience I've gotten scratched I have gotten scratched before the serial killers house on my back.

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My grandson wanted to go with me to the St. Augustine jail. About, I don't know about a year ago I guess. And he wanted to go so bad with me so I let him go.

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And he ended up getting scratched within 15 minutes of being there filming. Wow. On his back. Yeah. And in that particular room.

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The when I went and told the curator that my grandson just got scratched we were look she was looking at it we were like oh my god you know we were for she was freaking out too.

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And I said that that's happened to several people in that room. Now nothing happened to me I went back in there and started yelling at it, whatever it was and you know touch my grandchild like that again I don't know what all I said but I was yelling at it,

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you know, I will mess you up.

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So, but, you know, he did he got scratched, you know, he was sitting there while I was filming and I was watching him and you know and also he just started moving around and acting strange and, you know, finally as something wrong and he goes, my back is like burning

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And I said let me look at that so when I saw it I saw the scratches I couldn't believe what I was seeing I put holy water on him and, you know, and he was fighting it. So that could have been something that was trying to attach to him because he was fighting me to put

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the holy water on I doused him with holy water in the parking lot.

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And he was like, literally trying to run from me and it's like no no no no no and I'm like, I've never seen him act like that like why are you freaking out over some frickin holy water here.

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You know, so I just took it and just started throwing it all over him I was saying the prayer and waving my cross around and whatever you're doing what I knew to do you know, I'm no expert at it but just trying to save him you know because I felt like something

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was wrong. You know and he's very vulnerable and they those type of entities come after vulnerable people. Now, question what do you think is that makes you vulnerable.

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Because hey Nando, you do you think it's because they're young, and they're just naive, or do you think it's because they're young and they're still in that innocent stage where they're the closest to heaven, technically they're the close little,

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they're both. I like what you just said yeah. And, yeah, I think that has a lot to do with it. And, and this kind of proves it because there was another girl that was injured that night as well and she was the same age as my grandson.

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Wow, actually about a year younger, but yeah she was actually bit. She had teeth mark and it's in a scrape across her arm that just popped up out of nowhere.

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And it looked like a bite yeah and so those were the two young ones there the rest of us were adults, you know what I'm saying just happened to them and that's it. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, he's, he will go back he said I don't want to I'll just stay home from now on I should have listened to you.

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I think it's a low, I think it's a, you know, people are, like I say young ones that they're naive they haven't got a clue about the field, you know that they probably don't they don't take an interest in that really that much and stuff like that so, you know, they're easy pickings really

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and you look at it that way. I watched a video on and I don't have to try to find it but it was on YouTube a while back and it was this woman that had taken her son to a cemetery at night, she was a paranormal investigator or enthusiast or whatever, and didn't see anything wrong with taking her child there her teenage son.

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And he ended up getting possessed by something and they had to do. They had to see a priest. I'll try to find I saw that a while back I'm like that's interesting and it seemed legit when I was watching it.

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Yeah, like a legit story, you know, the whole story.

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Yeah, that really is because that's the last thing you want is your grandson or your son to go somewhere and then all of a sudden you bring them thinking that you've got this under control and yeah, oh control you know.

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Yeah, because you just never know what's lurking, you know what's lurking around. Of course I wear a lot of protective crystals and jewelry and stuff like that.

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And yeah, and I'm sure that helps some and I do keep holy water on me.

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I have a little vial of it sometimes I tuck it in my, my bra.

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I want to make sure it's handy. Yeah. Yeah, there you go.

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Hello, South Africa. What's that?

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Zanoby Jansen Thank you so much for watching. I'm test that I think it's all about your energy and your mind and mind. I do agree with that. I agree with that, especially for us who are older.

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But for the younger ones I wonder too I wonder if it's their energy obviously that draws these these spirits in because like I said they're so pure they're so innocent they're young.

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Also being the mind I wonder if it's because they're naive you know like they're not really like your grandson he probably went into it being a believer but he wasn't a true believer right happened to him.

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Yep. That's the naive part you know it could be Yeah, yeah and they're so young and full of life and stuff and they might just want to suck some of that life out of them.

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Yeah, you know get to get there get to give them energy. You know I mean, yeah, absolutely. These energy vampires are a real deal. Oh yeah. Yeah, definitely and he was drained after that for about a week he was completely drained.

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Wow, lately drained I had to have my spiritualist friend come here to the house and do some work on him to do a session with him and all that stuff.

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You know so those happen.

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Yeah, I'll let you I'm gonna I'm gonna break tradition here, I'm going to ask.

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I've got two questions as a two part question as to both of you.

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I was like last night on an investigation I took a couple of friends of ours wanted to go along they haven't been on a ghost hunt before, and I took them along.

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And we were talking about things happening like you know if you get pushed or or you know shoved or hit or things like this.

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And they said to me, are you not afraid of when that happens, and I was I said to them you know, no, it actually, it gives me a bit of a buzz when something like that happens.

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You know I mean it's like, me too.

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I'm not alone.

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I get the same thing.

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We also have sometimes a little thought in your mind, where, I mean obviously we do protect ourselves every time, but is there not sometimes a little mischievous thought that I'm not going to tonight I want to see how far they'll go.

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Yeah, yeah, I have a couple times yeah.

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I'm not alone then, because they were going to meet us now as if I had two heads you know like, what the hell are you doing that you know, I was like, you know, because we were investigating it.

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We don't just want, you know, one little thing to happen and then say right, that's it, you know, we've got something now we want, we want all the kick off we want everything to happen.

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Oh yeah, definitely.

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Amen to that.

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Yeah, I am the same way as you Patty I run towards something after it happens I don't run away anymore I'm the type person that's like we have to go now in there now.

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Yeah, I want to know what's going on I want to get that experience you know I, I've been touched many times by spirits and I can feel it, I got touched at Bobby Mackey's.

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Really, yeah something grabbed my leg when I was doing the estus method I could feel something grab my leg.

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But I just say it startled me for a second but I just sat there thinking, do it again do it again in my mind I'm thinking do it again, do it again do the other leg, you know.

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So, as we're going to jump into Bobby Mackey's right now because you were just invited Mackey's first what I want you to do is tell us about that the method you use that you were just talking about.

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So all the viewers.

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What the method. Yeah, the method you said when you got grabbed you said.

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Oh, yes I in my mind in my mind, I was saying in my because I didn't verbally say it but in my mind I was saying to my, you know, please do that again, do it again, touch the other leg method you said you're using a certain method.

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Oh, I'm sorry the estus method oh my god I'm so sorry. I didn't want to say it wrong but yes. Yeah.

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It's, it's, there's a couple of names for it. It's also called a test help me out what's it called the something deformation, or, or, I know what you're talking about with the golf balls in your eyes with the red light.

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Yeah, you put like a mask on, you put a mask like a mask on and yeah that's it that's it yes. So, that was pretty awesome I could hear a lot coming through and at the time when I'm spitting out what I'm hearing, I'm not realizing that.

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That's what the questions, they were all asking you know what I mean. So when you watch it back it's interesting to see that what you're saying that you're hearing is what they were asking, because we have headphones on all we can hear is the spirit box coming through.

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And the only thing about that is that the audience, they're watching the video they can't hear what I'm hearing or what whoever's got the headphones on. So a lot of people don't care for it because they want to hear it to they want to hear like well you, that was a great

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video I wish I could have heard it, you know, so, um, so I don't use that a lot I do it here and there and maybe a little, little section of my video maybe 10, seven or eight, 10 minutes whatever of doing that, but I don't focus too much on that because I know

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others want to hear what's being said to. Absolutely. I've done that I've done that method a few times and I tell you what I love doing that method but you are right. It's you know the the audience does want to be in there with you, but you know that's the whole thing

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it's like, you know that's the fine line between well do we care about the entertainment aspect of it even though we do like have video YouTube videos, or do we just care about, okay well I'm doing this as an experiment but in the same reality when we're

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filming. We want to show both because we want to one keep the viewer entertained, but we don't want to fake anything so that's why we want to show them the in depth way of how okay well you're, you know, the people who are asking questions aren't hearing this either.

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I'm the only one hearing this so it's hard to relay both messages and I think people get caught up in that a little bit too much. And they're like, oh well this could be boring to them or whatever it is but yeah.

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You can't unless you're recording it somehow. You don't have anything to go back and listen to, you know what I mean. So, I prefer not to do it, but I don't, I think it's important to do it, you know, a lot of people do like it.

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And it is, it is interesting to the investigator to be able to do that especially to go back and say wow, that was the question that they asked me and I got the answer, you know, oh yeah no it's a great method I mean it really truly is I love the method.

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There's another one that I was going to say I can't think of the name offhand right now because I'm so tired from work. But one thing I want to go back to real quick was test said us believers know how to mentally manifest personal boundaries with spirits

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and especially energy suckers like vampire energy and keeps and kids don't know how to how important that is. And you know how we were talking about your grandson. Yes, kids don't know how important that is but you know what though, even we sometimes

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get up and we don't really put that personal boundary until we're in the midst of it all and then we think to ourselves. I mean how about you for me at least, I'm in such excitement mode that I don't even think about it half the time that's why I do all my protection

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Yeah, same here, like I do a prayer before and after I don't always do it on camera. A lot of people don't even realize you know that I, I do it I do sometimes say the prayer on camera, and I used to do it a lot more but here's the problem I ran into

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that I was like, I'm so pissed me off so bad. It's like then you got people telling you how to pray well that's not the right way of saying pray like that. No, you didn't say that right you should have said this with this, you forgot to say this or you that wasn't a proper prayer.

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I mean it was constantly so I decided at that point after getting so much hate over my prayer. Um, that I decided to do prayer off camera. Yeah, and then you know what I mean it's like that now now you can criticize the way I'm

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praying. As long as you're talking to God and you're praying, that's all that God wants you know you don't have there's not a certain way, you know, God it's just ridiculous. Oh my daughter's in the chat. Hello Heather.

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I've got a way of protecting me and my team when we go out. And like I say I don't do it on camera. I don't even do it in front of the mother in law. They don't even know what I do. I just, I just do it, I go on my own.

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I go on my own and I asked for the whole team to be protected. Yeah, from start to finish, and even afterwards as well. And then all I'll do is we'll be sitting in the car on the way to wherever we're going. And my mother in law say to me, have you protected us and I'll say yep.

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And that's as far as it goes. I don't, because I'm not going to have anybody. And it does happen. And I don't have anybody that's going to come on and think that they're an expert in prayer. Exactly. Well evidently there's a lot of people out there that think they are experts at it.

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Exactly. You should have seen some of the, the comments people were making about my prayer, like that's not the proper way to pray you shouldn't pray that way.

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You didn't do that right. And it's like, Oh my God. You know, they're the experts. Don't forget nine they're the experts.

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have to jump out Robin because my phone is getting a bunch of notifications because I didn't shut it off. But before I do that I want to ask Patty one last question.

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Why does it make you so mad that there's so many people that have millions and millions of subscribers that are faking this as some, some people that we know that are fake ruin this field.

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And then you get people who, you know, are correcting you on how you pray. But yet if they were to do the same thing you wouldn't get that backlash, they wouldn't get that backlash. Isn't it amazing how the world works.

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Fake is the new real. You didn't know that fake is the new real that was it is. Yeah.

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The new real.

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And it just, it's sad because there is a lot of people out there, running it for real paranormal investigators with all of their faking.

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And what's really sad is that people believe it. Oh, I know it's very disturbing. It's very disturbing to see just how many people out there truly believe some of this fake evidence that's clearly staged.

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It's very disturbing to see how many people out there really buy into that. Someone once said to me, you know, someone once said to me, I was watching a clip on YouTube.

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I can't remember who it was, even if it wouldn't say the name, but it was a, it was a team. I'm sure they were American.

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They had shitloads of subscribers, you know, and that this, this sort of, it was clickbait. It turned out to be clickbait. It popped up on the, on the screen.

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And I thought to myself, oh, that sounds good. I'll see what that's about. And I put it on and someone that was with had come up to me and went, oh, you're watching such and such.

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And I was like, yeah, I only just put it on and see what it was. And they said, yeah, yeah, they've, they've got, they've got loads of subscribers. They have. And as I, and then they said to me, do you not like wish you had as many as them?

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And I was like, well, to be fair, I'd rather creep up the subscribers slowly by doing it real than fake it and get thousands every day.

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Yeah, exactly. I'm here. I completely agree. I don't care if I gain another subscriber, as long as I have people that want to see real paranormal evidence and sometimes, and sometimes not see anything because there is nothing to see, you know, but I'm going to show what's happening.

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And whether anything's happening or not, you're going to see it. And as long as those people want to watch it, I mean, I don't want the people there that, you know, from the from those channels, stay over there.

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And keep on believing that garbage, you know, I don't want those people. I've got a lot of people blocked from my channel because of hateful comments, but yet they're over there supporting the fake channels. My stuff is boring. Oh, nothing happened. That's boring. Boring.

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Okay, well, real paranormal investigating is kind of boring sometimes. Yeah, it is. Yeah. I knew couldn't have said it to her word because I'm actually helping a fellow over here. AJ knows and how I fell over here. He started a team up.

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And one thing I said to him when he was asking for advice, I said, any video you do, put it up in your child. It doesn't matter if it's one way. Catch nothing. We're not going to go out every single time and catch evidence.

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You're going to have investigations where you go and you get nothing. Still put it on. That's right. Yeah. And it's just that some people enjoy like Tez and and James and and Christian, you know, that I know that they'll they enjoy watching whatever I put out even if nothing happens.

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Even Brian told me that he goes because it's your least you're trying. I mean, you're going out there and you're trying but just watching the video and just seeing the historical places and you know they they get a kick out of just seeing that you know not all that fake crap.

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, you know all that jumping around. They do like a bunch of fucking spider monkeys in the camera. You know, it's ridiculous. God. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. You know what the sad part is. It's not even about paranormal investigating on YouTube anymore. It's about the personality of the person they're watching. They don't even care about what it's really about. And that's the one thing why I don't care either about subscribers. You know, I don't either. Great. If someone doesn't whatever. But you know what? That's the reason why I'm here.

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Great. If someone doesn't whatever. But you know what? That's the reason why I switched the spirit communication a lot only because that is so fascinating to me. Like what's coming through these these boxes and devices that my connection ever since from having my near death experience has grown so much that it's like I can get communication right outside my house. I mean, you got you heard the global ghost response, which I yeah. I mean, that was just remarkable. I really can't believe that I called that. But you know, that was three

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minutes of standing there doing nothing. Yeah. Oh, there's gonna be hours if people go out to these haunted locations, you're gonna pay hundreds of dollars to get in. Number one. And then you may not even catch anything for the whole entire night. So now that now I mean, they're gonna they're up for a big tree if they don't realize. Hey, Robin, I got to jump on it because I just got a like note that like and my notifications. So just fix this for me or take care of this and I'll be right back. Patty, I'll be right back. Okay.

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I think as well, Patty, I think I don't I mean, I know I kind of know what it's like over there from what AJ tells me and stuff. But over here in the UK, there's too much competition in it. You know, I mean, we should all be like we do. You know, I mean, with the global ghost stuff working together all the time. If we were all the work together and you know, I mean, we'd catch a lot more and to be a lot more out there.

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I mean, I think that's evidence, but there's just too much competition. It really is. And it's just a dog eat dog. You know, like everybody's trying to climb to the top and they don't care who they step on to get there. Yeah.

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And they don't care. No, they don't get they won't give locations out because they're afraid of anybody else doing them, even though it's not your location in the first place. You know, I mean, but it's like, it's just it's just ridiculous.

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I won't work. I put a post on my Facebook earlier. I don't know if you've seen it or not. But it looked like a bit of a rant, but it wasn't.

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It's just what what did it say? I'm trying to remember. It was about all about sort of, you know, working together and not not no competition and stuff.

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Oh, I think I did see that. Yeah. Too much going on lately, especially over here, where, you know, you end up feeling like you owe people something or that you can't do something without letting people know.

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You know what I mean? It's like, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I've got my team. I concentrate on that. I go out when I want to go out.

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I'll investigate where I want to investigate. You know, I mean, and it's like, you know, I don't have to tell anybody anything.

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It's like the same with you because it's our team. I mean, you haven't got the answer to anybody.

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Yeah, I'm feeling that way. You know, I mean, it's like I wouldn't even I wouldn't even be worried if there wasn't too many more collaborations down the road.

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I know there's a couple of people that want to collaborate and stuff like that. But, you know, it puts you off, really.

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Yeah, it really does. And I know what you mean. Now, there's been times where I haven't wanted to give out locations.

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And I'll tell you why, because in the past, I've given out locations that I found like really cool places to go film at really cool cemeteries and things like that, that hardly anybody knew about or, you know, that I found on my own.

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Or that maybe somebody told me about. And the problem I ran into was telling too many people where these locations were. They would go there and make a mockery of the place. They would go there and fake a bunch of stuff or they would go there and destroy property and, you know, burn candles on gravestones and leave the wax all over the place.

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I mean, just so much crap that people would do and to the point where it destroyed my chances of ever going back there, for one.

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And like there's two cemeteries not far from me that you're not allowed in anymore to film because too many people went after I went there and did, you know, a real paranormal investigation spirit box, stuff like that, you know, communicating and seeing some creepy stuff.

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And, you know, at night, one of them, especially is really spooky at night, but you can't go there now. They've got it gated up. You cannot. If you're caught in there, you go to jail. Yeah. Because and I found out from somebody in the city of Brooksville.

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It's because of all the people that started going there and filming. So it makes you so you're afraid to tell too many people where you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So that's that's my take on that.

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I kind of understand it. But if it's a well-known place, you can Google it and find it anyway.

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But like, for instance, the Shadow Cemetery, I have been very reluctant on telling anybody where the Shadow Cemetery is.

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People have asked me and asked me and asked me and asked me. And because of my experience with that, what I just said, I haven't told anybody where it's at, you know.

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And the reason I have it is because of that, because what's going to happen is all these people are going to start going and it's going to cause such a ruckus in that town.

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And at that cemetery, they're going to end up gating it off and no one's going to be allowed back there anymore.

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So I tell you what that happened to me over for Union Cemetery in Union, Connecticut. That's where the Warrens deemed it like one of the most haunted cemeteries. I go northeast and I called up the town and everything.

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And they were like, nope. They're like at at dusk, there will be a cop that sits there if you enter at dusk or don't leave because there's people going in there kicking over tombstones after the Warrens went.

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Yeah. There's still brand new parts where people's loved ones were getting stuff damaged. And I mean, it's like, what's wrong with people like I don't know back that like it's sick.

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It's a mental. They got to be mentally disturbed to want to go in there and do something like that. It really is not a new trend is over here.

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This is a new trend over here, right? This is why we don't give locations out because what they do is the the go in these people.

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And we call them the tour bus. Right. Because no matter where it is in the UK, it always ends up the same.

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They go in, they completely trash it, the steel stuff out of it, they smash it all up inside.

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He doesn't give them to anybody else. I don't give them to anybody else. That's a way it stays. You got to keep it like that because there were people that were ruined it for everyone.

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It's a really nice cemetery and we are you. They have signs now when you pull in no filming allowed.

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Absolutely. And it's the same thing too many people go on there and doing stupid crap, you know, and they now they got signs up no filming allowed.

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No ghost. No filming allowed stuff like that. That's wild. Yeah. Like what are the odds of that? No ghost hunting like I know. I know. Right. That's funny.

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So, Patty, I want you to talk about how your trip was and tell all the viewers a little bit about it before we come into a close over here. Well, it was a wonderful trip. I had such a great time and it was great meeting Brian and Adam and his wife and seeing Vicki again and spending time with all of them and going to these amazing places.

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I'd always wanted to go to Bobby Mackey's and see what it was all about. And it wasn't I didn't I'm not trying to say it's not haunted, but I don't I didn't feel anything evil like so many people claim.

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I didn't feel anything. I didn't nothing bad. I didn't feel any. That's me personally and same with Vicki and same with Brian. We did not go through anything like that at all. And I don't think Raymond did either. You know, people say they claim that they're pushed and they're shoved and they're scratched and whatever.

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You know, all these things. So I think a lot of that's made up, you know, but I think it is definitely haunted. I got a shadow figure going by. I got some great EVPs. We heard unexplained noises here and there. It's definitely a real cool place to go investigate.

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It's just that me personally and same with Brian, I can speak for him and Vicki. We didn't have any bad experiences, nor did we feel anything bad. Yeah. You know, you think it's because you went there with the intent of respect to could be. It could be, you know, very well could be.

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And I know Raymond's been there many times and I don't think he he would keep going back if he was getting pushed down and dragged across the floor or knocked down the stairs. You know, I don't think Raymond would keep going back if that was happening to him. Right, Raymond?

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Well, actually, he's pretty sick. He may. He may not.

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But and then Octagon Hall. Oh my God, that place is amazing. Yeah. How was it? It was amazing. It's beautiful, beautiful home from 1848 that is still standing and still in fairly good shape.

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It's three levels, lots of rooms. The guy that runs the place, he did like a where he walked around and told us, you know, I filmed it, told us all about the place and the history of the place.

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Sorry, I got distracted. My granddaughter just walked in the door.

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I get distracted really easy. I have like I got to get like tunnel vision anyway. So anyway, so we call we felt weak. You could feel spirits around you as soon as you walk in.

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I did. And so did Brian. Yeah, Vicky. So did Adam and his wife. You could just feel the presence. You could feel the eyes on you.

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Wow. I didn't get that feeling at Bobby Mackie's, but I did get it at Octagon Hall. And you got 13 out. We had 13 hours for 300 bucks, which is not bad. Not at all.

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And it was just an amazing place. It really was the property. It's amazing. Huh. Was it mega haunted. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm working on those videos now. I'm going to have at least three.

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Oh, maybe four because there was a lot of hours of filming, you know, tell everyone where we're going to be able to find those videos and get some of your stuff. A shout out for us on the G team. Paranormal investigators channel on YouTube.

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And I'll also be posting the links over on the G team paranormal Facebook page as well. And I have Instagram and I have Twitter.

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I just started a Twitter account again for the global ghost hunt, but I'm not much of a Twitter person. I don't care for Twitter. So I don't really use it that much. It's a lot of drama people over there. I've got over 160 people blocked already.

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So I have to say from always seeing the G team paranormal podcast, which I want to ask you about right now. We've seen the Twitter that we made you.

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I'm constantly seeing a bunch of things come in constantly all notifications and I'm like, yep, she's not even checking them out. I forgot about the G team podcast one. Oh my God.

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Have you thank you. Oh my God. I totally forgot about it. No worries. Wow. But here real quick. I want to have you come back on the show so we can talk more about the podcast.

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But would you mind showing up the podcast real quick before we end and would you come back on. Oh, yeah, definitely come back on and I want to have you guys on my podcast soon to the G team podcast channel. Right.

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What? Yeah. G team paranormal podcast. Yeah. I haven't even done a podcast in like what three weeks. I need to I need to do it. I've just been busy. Plus I was sick for a while.

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You know, I've been having some stomach issues and told you about that before the show. It's been pretty bad, you know, and they're they're they're trying to figure out what's going on.

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I'm glad you're feeling better today. Thank you very much. Yeah, I do. But I am going to be doing another one soon, but it's a G team paranormal podcasts. Yeah, you could find it on Facebook.

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Yeah, Facebook Twitter everything you name it. It's on it all and plus you're going to want to check her out on that podcast because she has a great guest that come on even though just missing the couple weeks is nothing compared to the guests that you've had on.

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So we truly appreciate you and we look forward to coming on yours as well. We just want to say thank you for coming on.

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You're you're you're you're very well. I want to apologize for the last time you were supposed to come on and they had the console last minute because of of someone. Yeah.

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Yeah, I had I had a serious issue I had to take care of which I apologize for but we got our things things happen. You know, it's just the way life goes.

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You don't have to apologize. It's fine. I understand. Trust me. Well, thank you so much, Patty. You're welcome. We will definitely talk soon and I want to schedule you immediately to come back on because we have so much to talk about.

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This was such a sure I feel like the hour went by so quick. Gosh, it's been an hour already. Yeah, 52 minutes. Wow. Yeah, you're right. It doesn't feel like it went by fast.

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But alright, Patty. Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you're welcome and thank you, Patty. Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it was nice seeing both of you again and nice chatting with you.

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I much love you. All right. Bye. Take care. Bye bye. Bye.

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Man, that's so awesome. I love having Patty. We have to have her on more often man. I wanted Patty to become one of our co-hosts and have her come on all the time because she has such insight into this this paranormal field and just the knowledge that she has from being in it for so long.

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The experiences man. I mean just the evidence that she's caught. Absolutely incredible. Absolutely. Yeah.

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I'm a little mad the whole hour went by so quick. If I wasn't so tired, I would have went for another hour but I know that Patty hasn't been feeling good and stuff so I figured why not bring her back on right?

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Absolutely. Absolutely. Why not? At the end of the day, we are all about bringing new people on to the podcast for the viewers.

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But we're also about bringing our favorite people that we've had on back on again, which obviously is happening, has happened and will happen.

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Yeah. So, you know, keeping an eye on it. And also I was gonna say this. I had a little bit of an idea, although we may have touched on it, but anybody who's watching the podcast every time, you know,

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you know, you're not gonna be able to get proper regular viewers and stuff like that. If there's anybody that we've had on that you would like to see on again, do message in the Talking with the Source Facebook page and we'll try and get the people back on again because it's it's all about you as well as it is us.

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So more about them than it is us.

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Yeah. I don't know about you but it's definitely more about them than you.

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Anybody you want on at all. Just let us know. I mean, you know, you want Ryan Reynolds on our messaging.

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There you go. Well, guys, thank you again so much for watching. My name is AJ Capasso.

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Imagine it. Deadpool on the podcast. Deadpool on the podcast. That'd be pretty sick. We gotta get we gotta make that happen. I'm not gonna lie. We can make everything else happen. Why not make that happen?

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Well, anyway, guys, thank you so much for watching. My name is AJ Capasso, host of Talking with the Source. I'm here with my good friend.

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Robin from Half-Ram Paranormal and Talking with the Source. And you guys are watching another episode. Thank you. Talk to you guys soon. Bye. See you later.

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