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What's going on everybody? This is AJ Capasso here and we're here with another episode of Talking with the Source.
I'm here with a couple annoying but great friends of mine. Go ahead Rob.
Robin Huffern from Huffern Paranormal and Talking with the Source.
Go ahead Doug.
Woo Todd from Relatively Paranormal, Relatively Paranormal Equipment and Wickedly Haunted on New Bedford Guide.
And Raymond's going to sit there.
Raymond is from Just Some Paranormal and P3 and now Talking with the Source.
Good stuff, good stuff guys. So I hope you guys...
That was funny man. I mean I could see you lagging Ray so that's probably why you didn't really get it at the first cue.
He's got the wind up internet again.
Yeah he's got that wind up, yeah definitely.
But guys we have an awesome guest today. First thing I want to do is do some shout outs.
First thing Todd, shout out where they can find your Relatively Paranormal Equipment.
He's got some great equipment, some SLS cameras that he's making, some amazing stuff.
So Todd please let them know where they can find it. I've got to get the picture up.
We'll get that up the following episode but just please tell them where we can find it.
We have two shops, Relatively Paranormal Equipment on Etsy and eBay. It's in the link right?
I'm not sure, not in this link but it will be on the link after this.
Alright so Relatively Paranormal Equipment on eBay and Etsy. I think it's just relatively paranormal like all one word.
But we got an SLS camera right now complete, comes assembled, 285 bucks.
All high quality, no garbage. Absolutely fantastic deal. You won't find a better deal or a better SLS camera.
Trust me on that. Good product.
100%.
We want to give a couple shout outs to a good friends of ours. We want to shout out to one of our best friends, great friends.
Brian Laverty, founder of ParaPost Network and founder of Global Ghost Hunt.
You can check out Hunniphobia Canada right now on ParaFlex. It's streaming.
We're on the third season. He's got some great episodes that are going to be released on ParaFlex.
Also check him out on social media and YouTube as well at Hunniphobia Canada.
It's going to be absolutely awesome. Looks like we lost Ray but I'll bring him back in one second.
We also are streaming live right now on ParaPost Network Central on Facebook.
Head over there. It's the home of paranormal podcasts alike. Also live paranormal investigations, live tarot readings, live medium readings.
The whole nine yards. Also mixing in some stuff that isn't paranormal.
It's growing. Join us. It's also available on Android and iOS. There's an app. It's the ParaPost Network app.
Head over there and get yourself the free app. Make a free profile. Join us.
It's going to be an awesome thing where you could just basically market your team, connect with other people that are in the paranormal field, and do some great stuff like that.
We want to shout out GlobalGhostHunt.com. If you have a team or you're interested, register your team now at www.GlobalGhostHunt.com.
It's going to be a bunch of teams from all over the globe. They're going to be streaming their live overnight paranormal investigations on a 10-day event.
Five in May, five in October. There's full team support, full location support, the exposure that you would want as a team and as a researcher.
So head over to GlobalGhostHunt.com now. Visit all of the Global Ghost Hunt social medias for all the updates and all the videos that are being released to give you guys more info on the subject.
Hold on, hold on. Before I keep going, let me bring Raymond back. Yeah, you're coming with us for that. You're coming with me and Marissa, right?
I'm not sure. Maybe. I'm not sure. I have to see what's going on with everything that's going on with the car. But before we get going with that, I want to show you.
We're going to come pick you up. We'll come pick you up. There you go. We'll pick a spot on the way.
G-Team Paranormal Investigators. Patty Adams and her daughter over at G-Team Paranormal Investigators in Florida. Check them out. You guys probably know them.
They've been all over Facebook for a long time. An incredible group with incredible gifts just for this field.
The connection that they have is absolutely amazing. And also, Patty just started G-Team Paranormal Investigator podcast.
So go check out our podcast right now on all social medias. It's absolutely amazing.
I want to give a shout out to our old host and great friend, Jonathan Keyworth of JK 47 Paranormal Investigations.
He's doing some amazing communication. So head over there on YouTube and all his social medias to check him out.
I want to give a shout out to Dominic over at Media 13 Productions and 13. Was it again, Raymond, 13 Spirits Paranormal?
I can't remember the exact name. Yes, 13 Spirits Paranormal. That's what I thought. I didn't want to say it wrong.
So thank you so much, Ray, for hitting up with that. I got you.
Spirits Paranormal. But head over to Media 13. He does some amazing work, some amazing intros, just some awesome stuff. I want to give a shout out to two of our sister groups.
That's the Bone Paranormal. Go check them out right now. Angela and her team.
Also, go check out Australia's team, I believe, with Peta and some just amazing team right here.
Ethereal Sisters Paranormal. So go check her out. Go check them out. Just an amazing group of people. But guys, we have an incredible, incredible group of guests today.
And Robin, I'm going to allow you to do your little intro for them because these guys are just awesome.
I will do. I just want to go back to what you were saying, AJ, before that about the Global Ghost Hunt.
If you're the proprietor of a location that's haunted, you can also register your location and get teams to come into your location.
So it gives your location worldwide advertising as well. Absolutely. Absolutely.
And also, AJ, here's one for you. I haven't got speaking to you yet, but I want to give a shout out to Mr.
and Mrs. AAP because they have last night said that they'll come back on the podcast again.
Yeah, no, I can't get enough of you. That's what it is. I'm just that sexy, I guess. I don't know.
Well, we can say that. So anyway, our awesome guest today. I will do.
We have Andy Sore and Paul Stevenson from Haunted Magazine. If you haven't heard of Haunted Magazine, check it out.
You can get the subscription on the bottom of the screen. There's a link there for the subscription to the magazine.
Yeah. Haunted Magazine, which is their newest issue that's going to be dropping September 6th, which is in two days.
So you're going to want to get that. Let me tell you, and they have everything, man. It's not just after life spirits.
It's all everything. I mean, cryptid, you name it. So we've got it. Yeah, he's got it right here.
Todd's got a copy right here. So get yours right now. But let's bring up Andy. Let's bring up Paul.
Hold on one second. Bring him in. There's Paul. Let's get Andy in there. Andy, Paul, what's up?
Hello, guys. What's up? Hold on. Let me change this layout for you guys. Go ahead. Boom. There we go. Let me change.
Yeah. Andy, we'll start with you real quick because I want to get you guys front and center.
But Andy, first thing I want to ask you and then all the guys, I have to ask you a quick question.
We'll throw Paul in as well to answer this question. But tell me what got you into the paranormal, my friend?
Like what got you into making this magazine and what got you into just this whole field in general?
Sure. I've always had an interest in the paranormal since I was very little.
I think the first inkling that I had that I'd be interested in the paranormal was probably from a magazine called The Unexplained,
which was very big in sort of late 70s, early 80s in the UK.
That had things that are standard things from UFOs, ghosts, fairies, all sorts of things.
I think that's what started it. The evolution of that was probably with programs like The X-Files and all that kind of thing.
But working with the reprobate that is Paul Stevenson, that happened for me at about 2011,
where he drafted me in as the designer of the magazine in the first wave of print, where it hit one final issue.
Then it went to digital for a bit. And then it came back into print from the issue 15.
It's been about 20 issues in print, which is remarkable really for a magazine at this time.
But also we do investigate as well. So again, that comes as a result of really the partnership that I have with Paul.
Awesome. Awesome. Well, let me bring Paul over quick. Paul, go ahead, my friend.
I want to save you because I know you've got some good stuff for us. So tell me, how did you get into this field?
What made you start this and this magazine? And just tell me, like, what got you into all this?
I think, same as Andy, it was a lifelong interest in ghosts and spooks for me as a kid.
I can remember a series of books called The Osborne Guide to Spooks, UFOs, ghosts, that kind of thing.
And it kind of explained the paranormal and the supernatural in a way that kids, for kids, so kids understood it.
And it wasn't a subject that was just adult based. It explained all about ghosts and ball erecting, Harry Price.
And I was hooked to this was in 1979. So, you know, nine, ten years old.
So ever since then, I've always been interested in the supernatural, paranormal,
horror films, that kind of thing, the TV show. And it's grown from there.
Regardless of magazine, I think in 2006, I had the idea because most haunted had been on television.
And I had the idea for a magazine that was a bit different to what was already out there, like 14 times.
It approached the paranormal in a kind of fun, interesting, informative entertainment kind of way.
I looked at it a different rather than sort of like science based, that kind of thing.
It was a magazine that was available for all to enjoy, but no matter what your status or what your experience or age was or belief was.
And we've grown from there, as Andy said. We've gone from print to digital, back to print and digital.
So it's been a been an interesting journey for sure. Absolutely. Absolutely.
So go ahead, Robin. Go ahead, man. I know you want to ask some questions. I see you over there.
No more. I just obviously I want to say, first of all, to Andy, that it's good to have you on after all this time.
We had actually arranged for Andy and Paul to come on before.
But then illness and things like that just sort of delayed it. But obviously I wanted to get these guys on for a long time now.
So I'm just super happy that they're on. Absolutely. Thank you.
And the AAPs are watching as well. Yeah, AAP, we want to say BAM to our good family over at AAP.
Thank you so much for watching and sharing out. Todd, by all means, man, go ahead, because you have that magazine of theirs already.
I mean, I'm a little jealous. I'm a little jealous. I'm not going to lie, because I got to get my subscription in the coming week.
So please, it's funny because you talk synchronicities.
And I just came across your magazine at the Hinsdale House like two weeks ago and didn't know it existed till I got there.
I didn't read it while I was there. I mean, the place was insanely haunted.
But I did bring a copy home and I read it. And what I really liked about it was the fact that it delved into like I think there was an article about
a sensitive or a medium. Then there was an article about a new show coming out.
Then there was an article about the haunted mall there, which I loved.
And I've seen I've seen a couple of investigations on the place. The place is pretty crazy.
It really delved into a wide spectrum of different paranormal topics, which I enjoyed.
It wasn't just focused on like one area. Now, I hear the accents. I hear the accents.
Robin already knows, right? Where are you guys from in the UK?
We're from Nottinghamshire. I'm from a place called Mansfield, which is in Nottinghamshire.
Well, Andy's just from Nottingham in South Nottingham City. But yeah, we're from the Robin Hood country.
So that's that's England. That's what part of England is that Northern England?
East of England. The Midlands. Yeah. Yeah.
It's like every place on my top five bucket list is in the UK. I'm going to get there one day.
I know I'm going to get there. I make it happen. What's the most haunted place that you've investigated in the United Kingdom?
Give me some ideas. But when I get there, I mean, most haunted is it's impossible to measure, isn't it?
I mean, is that how many people have been scared there or is that how many ghosts are supposed to be present there?
It's your own experience in your own. Yeah. I mean, for me personally,
each place that we go to, that we we try and connect with, I think always has its own unique experiences.
I mean, for me, there's been some unforgettable ones. East Drive, 30 East Drive is always very well known,
being known as the Blackmonk House. But it's the place where I experienced my first sort of taste of there is something different out there.
I saw something that to this day, I can't genuinely explain.
It didn't make any particular sense. But in keeping with the investigation, the night it was something that was amazing.
And it was basically a little girl that I saw at the top of the stairs in the mirror that was there.
We were actually filming this live on Facebook at the time.
But unfortunately, the mirror wasn't on camera when I looked at this mirror and saw it. I had no reason to see this girl.
The little girl was completely out of place with the kind of place that East Drive is.
She was wearing some kind of Victorian or Edwardian apparel, but that didn't fit to this location.
But I saw her clear as day. It was it was crazy.
That is awesome. That is awesome.
Do you think she was human? Do you think she was trying to trick you?
Well, obviously, I investigate with Andy as well and with a couple of friends, Jason and Simon, who are part of Haunted Live.
And 30 East Drive for me is up there with the best for me.
The experience we did five nights continuous there a few years back.
And every night was different. I mean, I'm always I'm a big believer in the paranormal being a personal experience, even though you go with friends and mates and teams.
It's about yourself, about experiencing yourself.
But we had a lot of activity. I didn't see what Andy saw, but that doesn't mean Andy didn't see it.
Lots of things moving and noises.
And it felt like one night we were chasing like Scooby Doo.
We were downstairs and the noise was upstairs. So we ran upstairs and then the noise was downstairs.
So that's the beauty of the paranormal.
There's also a place like Bosworth Hall in Leicestershire.
Really a fantastic place. Haunted Antiques Research Centre in Hinckley in Leicestershire.
Andy and myself and Jason and Simon and a few guys witnessed a table move.
We were filming live for the Facebook stream and we asked this table to move and we were like, it moved.
And I trust these guys. There was nothing that could have made that table move apart from whatever made it move.
It was just four years ago now and I still watch it on the clip we've got on our page and I still baffle by how the heck it moved.
But yeah, I think the 30th Drive for me is up there with the best of me.
Absolutely. That's awesome.
Hey, we want to give a welcome to our...
Okay, so just let you guys know Andy and Paul.
So Steve-O just joined us down on the bottom left.
He actually is one of the original hosts with me and Robin.
Todd and Ray are actually...
I'm Kelly.
Todd and Ray are actually...
Hi everyone.
Hey Kelly. Todd and Ray are actually our newest hosts.
I'm part of Talking With The Source.
But I just want to say hi to Steve-O. He works at Tonys up in Canada.
So it's great to have him and his wife Kelly with us right now.
But yeah, Todd, that was an awesome question because that was something that I wanted to ask Andy and Paul myself.
Ray, go ahead my friend.
I don't have a question, man.
He's switching back to everything.
How about you Steve-O? Do you have anything you want to ask Andy before I jump in?
Go for it.
No? Okay, cool.
So guys, what I wanted to ask you was I was just reading in the recent...
The Risa issue which I actually got a chance to look over and I have to say
there was something that really caught my eye right away immediately because I love ITC.
Like me and Steve-O and Robyn, all of us, we just love ITC.
And I noticed that there was an app you guys featured in the newest issue that was the Alice app.
Now, do you guys personally know anything about the app yourselves from what you guys wrote in there?
Have you ever used it or anything along those lines or...?
Yeah, I mean I was the one that wrote the article.
Oh, awesome. Cool.
I've had quite a good experience with the Alice box all the way from its first inception as a PC tablet piece of software
which we have very, very strong results from, especially in some of the locations that we've taken to
from Haunted Antiques based in Hinkley to Bosworth Hall.
What's remarkable about it is when you suddenly start getting chains of things
that appear to be very much in line with the location that you're at.
So it was always interesting and it evolved into its own bespoke unit
and then also the app that's available from the app stores.
Each one has its own sort of nuances.
The standalone, I think, is particularly incredible and can certainly seem to pick up on what you are doing on the night.
Again, it's when you start getting that string that starts to happen with very much a line of questioning
and it starts becoming very relevant to where you are.
But yeah, I mean the new app version, it's got a few little quirks here and there, but all in all,
it is a fantastic piece of kit that I think is very worth a try on any investigation.
There's a lot of ITC out there now.
Obviously, the Ovalist was probably the grandfather of it all.
And this is along those lines.
But I think just for towing the water and seeing what you can do with it and a bit of practice with it,
that Alice is a fantastic device.
And certainly, in an investigation that can be quite quiet sometimes, you don't always get activity instantly
or you start getting a bit of a laugh and a giggle, it can build on the energy of the night.
And it can then, as you start asking questions and start building things in, then it does start to respond accordingly.
But yeah, a fantastic device which was very worth featuring in the magazine.
Absolutely. No, that's awesome. I can't wait to check it out further.
I want to say thank you so much to AAP for sharing it out, also to Courtney Peterson for sharing it out in Heights.
We hope you guys are well.
We did get a message from Joanne. She said I made her.
So I take it Joanne was the one who obviously made Alice.
That is so awesome. We're so pumped to have you with us.
Thank you so much for joining us.
And I was fascinated with what I read in the article about it.
And I can't wait to check it out further because especially me and Steve, I mean also Robin as well.
And I can't really speak too much for Raymond and Todd, but I do know that they are interested as well in the ITC form of say apps or certain things
where some investigators don't believe apps can do whatever they think or whatever because there's a lot of entertainment out there.
But from my experience, from me and Pivo's experience, from even Robin's experience, from us talking and using all different types of apps,
I tell you like why can't spirits? You know what I mean?
I mean, they can they can mess with radio frequencies from what we believe from the PSP seven and all different types of stuff.
We're now holding a little miniature computer in our hands. You know what I mean?
Or even with a laptop, such a powerful machine, why can't they affect that type of electronics?
So I totally agree with it. And I'm super happy you guys wrote about that.
And I can't wait to see what you guys have next coming up in this new issue, because like I said, you guys don't just cover, you know, just one aspect of the paranormal.
You guys cover all these groups in the paranormal.
And, you know, Paul, like you were saying before, the little the personal experience that you get when you're out investigating, I think that is the main part of it.
Like it's always a personal experience and it sucks that it is sometimes because you want to like get people to be like, oh, check out what I got.
But in reality, it's like hard for them to believe because it's not their personal experience.
So but I love how you put that, though.
Well, I think I think the paranormal is so diverse that, you know, there's so many branches and so many offshoots of the paranormal.
But, you know, it makes sense to feature as many different strands of the paranormal, be it medium, be it spiritual, be it science based, be it personal experiences.
You know, there's so many. We'll never run out of features for the magazine.
We've got a team of brilliant writers who just write the most brilliant stuff for the magazine.
And it makes our job easy to design it and shape the magazine.
Because there's so many stories out there, personal stories, history, you know, haunted, haunted histories, locations with history.
There's so many stories out there. It's fantastic.
Yes, absolutely.
God, Ray, are you going to say something?
Oh, I was going to ask him what his favorite article is to write.
Well, I mean, we don't tend to write. I mean, Andy wrote the Alice review this time.
We tend to just get our get use our skills in editing and designing the magazine.
We do write a few, but the writers just send the brilliant stuff.
We shape it with flat planning, we design it and it just fits.
I mean, it makes our job a lot easier now, to be fair.
When the magazine first came out, we wrote a lot of features and stuff.
But it's moved on since then. And the writers, you've got so many stories to tell.
And some of them are first time writers, some of them are established authors.
And again, that's the beauty of the paranormal, the people who are wanting to write for us.
And, you know, they've never written before and it gives them confidence once they feature the magazine to write more and more.
And some have gone on to have books made and have books been published.
So, you know, that's kind of nice. But yeah, it's a joy.
I'll speak for Andy, but it's a joy to work on the magazine.
And I think when you do something that you love, it's just a bonus.
And it's something that we love doing.
You know, we always try and say, we'll try and better each issue.
And I think at the minute we are doing that.
But that's down to a lot of people, not just Andy and myself.
And you will agree it's down to a whole host of writers and supporters and readers of the magazine who we want to sort of like we want to get the paranormal out of this, spread it as far and wide as possible.
I mean, you mentioned that Dan's placed it onto the Innsdale House.
That is now a stock in the magazine for the USA market and the Canadian market and we've got an Australian distributor.
We just want to spread the paranormal and the love for the paranormal far and wide.
Absolutely. I totally agree with that.
I just think it's awesome what you guys are doing.
And you know how you said that you're better and you're trying to better every issue.
And I tell you what, from the issue that we saw just a moment ago with Todd and Marissa when they showed in the beginning, I mean, just seeing that cover and now seeing the upcoming cover, what's going to be even just from the last issue.
I mean, just that alone was upgraded and you guys are doing so much more.
And the amount of professionalism that you guys put into each issue from what I see at least is just outstanding.
And that's so great that you guys are pushing this to that level because I believe we do need a magazine, especially that could represent all fields of paranormal.
And I think you guys have done it, you know, absolutely.
One hundred percent. So it's great to get to meet you guys and get to talk to you guys.
And I just can't see what you guys come up with next.
So, Rob, go ahead, Robin.
Well, I just want to go back to the point you were saying about about 30 East Drive have been there three times. Absolutely amazing.
There's not a place like it. And as soon as AJ and Steve and Raymond and Todd and Marissa can get their asses out here.
Right. Where's my head go?
That's where we're going, because I tell you, I the first time we went there, I walked in and went upstairs and there was coins and marbles and earrings and everything thrown from nowhere.
There was a black mass on the floor that was swirling and it was growing and growing and growing.
And it just shot into the room and touched the woman, Carol, from next door, touched her on the leg.
It was just it was phenomenal. I wanted to ask you, though, do you feel I mean, I go to a lot of haunted locations and you stop and you're standing outside it and then you just walk in and get started.
Did you not feel a source of energy hitting you as you walked up to the house?
Yeah.
For me personally, I'd say not particularly. I think it was really from a point of walking in that there's just this really peculiar feeling.
It's very intense for an atmosphere. But as I was doing a walk around, you know, I saw a shadow of something at the top of the stairs very, very quickly.
Went upstairs. Nobody was there. It was all guys downstairs.
It's just one of those locations that it's got to feel about it for sure.
But yeah, charged is quite a good word. We had a did a particular session with a couple of K2 meters on the stairs and we were getting all sorts of activity.
They were both paired up and reacting at the same time.
There was nothing electrical there and we were again we were live streaming.
So it was quite interesting to see. Just from that perspective, we were live streaming but the camera was well away from K2 meters.
They were acting completely independent from anything that we were trying to do or trying to achieve.
So it's such a fascinating location. It doesn't make an awful lot of sense with the history of the location.
There doesn't appear to have been any evidence of a black monk and yet people have seen the black monk.
And some people have a real huge experience there. Others go and experience absolutely nothing.
They're incredibly disappointed. I think sometimes we are kind of an antenna for what's going to happen.
And I think if we are tuned into that location, then that location will usually pay dividends.
I mean, it's very difficult to understand whether that's an agrigo or a tolpar or a form of some kind.
But I think there's more to it. And one of those locations, 30 years drive, is definitely one where anybody to go.
Go in with an open mind. Go and explore it in the way that you would explore it and see what happens.
And more often than not, I think you'll get an experience.
See, I was sorry. I was just going to say about the monk thing. I read something different about that.
I read that it was the black monks of Pontefract used to have that land.
That where them houses are, it was at the very bottom of their land and there was a well.
And the black monks used to kill people and throw them into the well.
And I heard that they'd seen the well and built them two houses on top of it.
And then another historian will come along and say, no evidence of a well, no evidence of any monastery.
That's the beauty of this, because one person's experience isn't everybody's experience.
And the more things that happen there that kind of can be cross referenced, then the better it is for the evidence and trying to get to the bottom of it all.
I love that about the paranormal and I love that it has debate.
I would just like the debates to be sometimes a little bit more careful and friendly and willing to understand other people's viewpoints, because that's where we should be.
We're on a common interest, so we should have a common goal and share that common goal together.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I agree.
I mean, what I like about the East Drive is the fact that it's not a typical looking haunted location.
It's not a castle. It's not a coaching inn. It's not a 400 year old building.
It's a council house in the middle of a council state in Pontefract. And that's what makes it magical to me.
I mean, there's no rules that says your location cannot be haunted because it's 50, 60 years old.
It's you know, it's sometimes what it's built on and the layers of foundations of what it's built on.
I mean, we've had stories of people who've been there 13, 14 times and nothing's happened.
But on the 15th time, it's all kicked off. And, you know, and I think that's, you know,
I think they wrote about it in a past issue of the magazine, you know, the night it all changed because they went there wanting things to happen.
And even though 12, 13, 14 times, nothing happened.
And they still went, they still wanted to find things or wanted to discover if it was haunted or what.
And on the 15th time, it all kicked off. And so they, you know,
but I'm also a big believer in that you have to visit a location to to to say whether you think it's haunted or not.
There's a lot of a lot of locations that get a bad, a bad review because it's not haunted.
But there are people who have never been. And I always think that you've got to go and experience the paranormal for yourself.
Then you've got the right to have an opinion.
Amen to that. Amen to that.
Totally agree. You've got another one for us.
Oh, yeah. What I was going to ask is, isn't that place like like a duplex?
Isn't there like another house that you can get to it?
And what is called it is called in England, it's called a 70 touch.
So there's basically a house next door, which is where Carol, somebody mentioned, I think, Robert mentioned Carol.
Yeah, Carol lives next door to it.
So, you know, and, yeah, it's cool. It's called a 70 touch council house.
And, yeah, and she experienced activity to it in that location as well.
But it's just a great place. It's just, you know, there's a lot of them, right?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. But she runs her own team. Yeah.
She does Pondy fact almost something.
And she has the stuff come through the wall and our eyes as well.
Yeah. Can you imagine?
Can you imagine like living that'd be so cool because you have your own haunted location right next door.
Walk through a door.
He's got the keys for it.
If they're coming through the wall, though, trust me, it ain't that cool because we're sitting in a haunted location right now and we used to investigate it.
And it's not fun. It is.
Trust me. I know my house is very active.
And, you know, I mean, I personally love it, but not other people would, you know, I've had negative experiences and positive ones.
But whatever drains us bad, it drains us real bad sometimes.
Luckily, it doesn't do that to me. I've never been drained on an investigation, never been drained, even when activity was as high as so I don't know what it is about me.
But I'm just happy that that doesn't happen to me. But, you know, then again, they're not saying it couldn't, you know, so I'll tell you what.
Fascinating 30 East Drive reminds me what you guys are saying reminds me a lot of how Hinsdale is because we were just there and it had that same vibe where you walked in in some rooms.
You would feel dizzy and I'm not sensitive at all. And I would feel off kilter and the activity in there was so bizarre and so intense.
We were hearing footsteps and pounding and just capturing weird stuff. Absolutely weird stuff.
I just actually picked up the paratech by Appydroid. He's over there in the UK somewhere, right? Or an island maybe.
And that's a great device, too. And it said crawling. And then I was looking through the flan. I saw something crawling across the floor in one of the rooms.
It was really like a freaky place. So what you guys are talking about reminds me a lot of how the Hinsdale house is over here.
We had just a bizarre location and no reason for it to be haunted like that. None, really.
You know, and they had to exercise what three times? Yeah. And it's still there. It's still there. So really, but I'm jealous. I'm not gonna lie. I'm jealous.
I'm dying to get through them. I'm really jealous. But I love the stories about it. The place is fantastic.
You've got to get over here. You know, it's actually my favorite episode of Most Haunted, my favorite show of all time,
takes place at 30 East Drive when Kyle and Stuart get hit in the head with a picture frame and a key and stuff.
And he gets burned. They both get burns on their arms. That was a crazy episode. So absolutely fantastic place.
Yeah, I tell you, it's funny. It's funny because a lot of people from over in the UK are like, oh, we just want to come to America and investigate.
And then all of us Americans are like, we just want to go to the UK and investigate. So it's so backwards.
But, you know, I tell you what, I'm with Todd, though, like Robin always says, oh, yeah, no, I want to go to the Winchester Mystery House.
I don't want to be over here. I'm like, oh, I want to be over there. You know, so it's funny. I'll go back and forth.
I can remember when Nick Groff and Katrina came over, they were doing Paranormal Lockdown UK and they came over to do some locations,
obviously in the UK and 30 East Drive was one of them. And they also visited some castles, Chillingham Castle and a few locations.
And, you know, I remember Katrina saying that she slept in a thousand year old castle that's technically older than the USA.
It just found it. It just it just blew their minds. You know, yeah, yeah, you know, that kind of thing. It does. It does. It's mind blowing.
It is. It is. It definitely is. I mean, now tell me, guys, I want to actually go ahead. It's your question. My apology.
I didn't mean to jump over you. OK. But I want to ask you guys was like, tell me ever since you guys got into this field, like a while ago,
like you stated, tell me, have you gotten more fascinated by history or were you always this fascinated by history?
Well, if I may go first, I'd say, yeah, more fascinated, more fascinated, especially during the lockdown, during the last, you know,
the last couple of years during Covid, also when we couldn't go out and investigate or couldn't go out and meet up with people.
I read so much on the history of buildings and locations like you wouldn't believe, you know, finding out about, you know, more about medieval times and Knights Templar.
I mean, history plays. History has always played a massive part in paranormal, always.
And I just love the fact that we've got a history and a mystery about the paranormal.
And like I mentioned before, you know, one historian will say this, one historian will say that.
So it's so different to what, you know, without a time machine, you'll never know for definite, I guess.
But yeah, I'm a big, big, big fan of history and the paranormal.
Yeah, absolutely. How about you, Andy?
I'm probably the polar opposite to that, because I like to go into a location, not really know what's happened, to see what we actually pick up on the night and then research after the fact.
I don't want to know everything that's there straight away because it could shape what you actually pick up on the night.
It's useful to have one of your compatriots that you're investigating with that does know that history to see if it does pair up on the night, because then that's a bit more of an instant reaction.
But for me, no, I much prefer investigating cold and just understanding what we pick up on the night and then seeing how that meets the facts of a location, because ultimately you want to know that that spontaneity isn't just something that you just imagine, but this is something that's really happening in this location.
Oh, sorry. Sorry, Andy. I'm muted you. My apologies. Sorry, I'm muted you. I apologize. I meant to exit solo screen, but my apology.
No worries. Did you get all of that though?
Just to let you know, I'm so sorry, my friend. I was trying to exit solo screen because I wanted to tell you, like, I totally agree with what you're saying. I totally slipped.
It doesn't talk to you much. Come on.
I mean, you can't take it anywhere.
Our conversations tend to be on mute.
I'm sorry. I'm so used to doing it with these guys.
No, I have to say though, the way that you look at Andy, I tell you what, I recently did that last year when me and a buddy of mine rented out Montana State Prison and I didn't look up any history, didn't care about it, even though it's been on shows and stuff.
I never really, I don't remember them. I didn't really pay too much attention. I tell you what, I had a better time finding it out after the fact, really digging into the history after the fact, because there were things that happened, like I had the smell of gasoline in a certain area of the prison.
And I just didn't understand why I was the only one smelling it on me and my buddy. Come to find out when the riot happened in 1959, they actually use this gasoline to throw in the guards faces, and I couldn't believe it because I would have never even probably would never even known that even if I looked up the history, but I am also you know on the other coin to Paul where, you know, I am fascinated by history now but if you caught me in school, I was the first one to leave.
I was the first one to get out of school at that whatever study hall or whatever you would call it man like I did not stick around even dropped out in my senior year because I hate school so bad and ended up going back but I tell you what I tell you I totally I totally agree now man like this science history all that stuff just fascinates fascinates me to the core.
I mean it's a whole new thing when you get older I guess what, what are you gonna do right.
Robin go ahead my friend your turn.
I'll just, I'm also fascinated by an article that you have in your latest magazine on visitation dreams.
Okay, by one of the, one of the girls from Amanda's family McCabe I believe.
Yeah, and again I mean it's like you know we, we must that oh yeah that's the Joanne. Yeah, but I think, regardless of feminine McCabe I think I think what Amanda's done I don't know if you guys know spook eats or not.
Well I think what Amanda's done is, you know, I think it's volume four now the family McCabe she got a whole host of writers you write about different things and visitations in dreams is just one of the features that we were lucky to feature in the magazine and that's
what I said before about that this is the beauty of the paranormal that you can have a feature on a haunted location you can have a scary feature and it can go from a feature like ESP to dream visitation so it's, we're trying to, we're trying to capture the so many different
sides of the paranormal. So it becomes like a roller coaster ride of emotions and thoughts and opinions for everyone to read and enjoy it's not just focused on one particular aspect or side of the paranormal.
I think that works for us. It works for the readers and the writers too. Yeah, yeah, and it gets.
Sorry not to interrupt you and I was just gonna say it gets people.
Yeah, I mean, just from reading certain articles now got me fascinated into certain things maybe cryptic or say UFOs and something I would not have been interested in before so that's another great aspect but sorry to cut you off any go ahead with what
good thing about this, it was Tanya's article and what happened here was that we had Amanda
Woolmer who curates the feminine macabre, she very kindly agreed to put together a kind of potted
version of this for the magazine. Now initially we have a special section in each issue that changes
the paper type, but this particular issue, the kind of feel of what she presented with these six
very very different writers who are interested in all aspects of the paranormal and supernatural.
It kind of just breathed the life of its own, their essays, they're different in intention,
the Visitation Dreams is Tanya's very very carefully constructed essay on that particular
element. I mean me as a designer of the magazine it sometimes presents quite interesting challenges
because how do you put something together about Visitation Dreams into an article. The best thing
really is with any magazine of this type is to let the words speak for themselves and then the
images will actually come around from that and certainly the feminine macabre, it's just been an
absolute joy for us really to have this as part of the experience, which is why we chose to take it
away from that side of the magazine and put it into the main magazine itself giving it that glass
and that feel and it allowed us then to also expand on one of the things that we do do,
a second volume of Chronicles of Haunted. Again we do try and change things with the way that
the magazine operates and we tried something here by introducing the different paper format in the
centre, almost like you used to get a pull out when you're a kid in a comic book and you saw
the central section that you pulled out and read differently. But this allows a slightly different
more tactile experience so that when you're reading a magazine within a magazine, which is how we kind
of tried to put this together, the older styled articles, more historic articles and I just think
I'm not sure that any other magazines are really approaching that style of print
and certainly in paranormal media I don't think anybody's trying this and we have always said
from the very beginning that Haunted magazine is a magazine that we would want to go out to the shop
and buy and if we wouldn't then why would we expect anybody else to do that. So I'm incredibly
proud of this particular issue and the writers that we have because we have the most diverse that
we've ever had in this issue. We've got the most pages in the issue because we have just so many
different aspects to explore this time. The cover kind of gives us our inroad into well it's over
in the US it's the fall, it's autumn here, obviously the big season is Halloween. We don't
literally express Halloween because if we do that then you have a magazine that's not really
appropriate all year round and I want to be able to kind of pick this magazine up. It's not necessarily
date specific either so you can pick this magazine up and enjoy it at any part of the year whether
you're just on a flight and you're going somewhere or whether you're just at home stop for a few
moments and we then have something that you can go bam there's something interesting I want to find
out more about it. Absolutely I totally agree with that. Todd you have another question for him my
friend? Marissa you have a question? Oh yeah just a couple things but one I just wanted to agree
with um Andy and UAJ that when we go to investigations we never ever ever look into it at all and we
always you know kindly decline the tour that they offer us because we don't want to know anything.
We want to know what we're going to find out by ourselves and then you know at the end
after we you know look through all of our evidence we'll kind of compare it that way. But I was also
curious that the magazine is fantastic and the quality is amazing. I was just curious how long
did it take to do just one how long does it take to do just one issue? Well we are quarterly
magazine which means we are out every three months which is four issues a year and I think it takes
us I think between six to eight weeks to get everything sorted and shaped and and get the
writers time to prepare. We tend to know what's coming in a certain percentage of the magazine
but I think we have we have we tend to leave it to the last minute like a couple of weeks before
print just in case anything pops up that we really need to feature. But you know we've got such a
a lot of writers team team team Haunter would like to call it who have got uh who send write
send features as soon as they as soon as they finish them and they've got like a writer's
um bank of features that they uh that they've got in our sort of like folder that we use for them
and and we can we can choose which ones we want but I think we like to have um I think a good a
good six to eight weeks to crack on with the magazine. I mean there is times Andy will agree
that we've actually had no cover a few days before printing we think what are they gonna do here?
Yeah um you know it works and you know we don't tend to we haven't yeah we have a template in
terms of what we what we want to do everything paranormal all things paranormal spooky supernatural
trip toys UFOs or whatever but we don't tend to have um the same amount of um writers we have
writers you'll drop in every now and then and we'll one of we'll say look Andy Paul you know I want
to write this feature about this yeah great thank you very much and we have people who send stuff
all the time and we collate it and we use it as and when we can and I mean Andy mentioned this
time the biggest problem by this time is we've we've used 20 more pages than last time we've
actually probably dropped 40 or 50 pages because we've had so much stuff which is which is not a bad
thing because it means that we've got the uh content and the and the features to use it in future
issues um but I'd say Marissa I think it's probably about six to eight weeks uh if we you know
when people forget I mean you know myself and Andy have got full-time jobs this is not something that
we are uh 24 seven doing uh we do this in our spare time and you know we've got families
more kids etc etc etc uh so you know but it and it it's we're so passionate about doing the magazine
and wanting to you know be the best that we can be and and Andy mentioned about the words yeah we
we want to do the words from the writers justice uh and we spend as much time as we can doing it
and now we're in the shops we have a tighter deadline that we have to get into the printers
by a certain time but I'd say probably six to eight weeks um would you agree Andy or not?
Yeah I mean but your end of things is really collating what what the writers do and the
writers could have been writing some of this stuff over two or three months before it's
got to our stage so I mean for me if I sat down and had every single article in my drop box it
would probably take three weeks fully to design build and put together but it doesn't quite work
like that because sometimes you'll have a feature that drops and makes you think about the whole
shape of the magazine and whether or not you should put that in or a last minute article or comment
and it all is so on the money with regards to the cover I mean sometimes we'll know right from the
very beginning there's a new show coming they've got in touch with us we've got all the marketing
material we can go with that as a cover but other occasions we have to do all the chasing on that
and so we the cover is an organic process it has to be the shop window of the magazine so
it can't be too wordy it can't be under wordy it's got to have everything on there that's going to
grab and and the very fortunate thing now is that the the kind of level of writing talent that we have
generally indicates that we have a wealth of riches that can go onto every single cover that we do now
it's just getting that right balance and this this one was was slightly unique in that I knew that
when it was coming out it was going to be this whole sort of autumn tidefall and I already had
an image in mind before actually doing it and then we were very fortunate to get Sam
Altrucis writing about Lizzie Borden we got a just the most amazing interview with the
Investigators Barry Guy who some of the responses are just breathtaking in this interview and it's
it's quite frankly just a joy when we get stuff like that we've we've got Ghostwatch which for a
lot of people that is ingrained in your history if you've not seen Ghostwatch this was a TV experience
that most of us were seeded with and you know everybody's got an opinion of it but most of us
were actually terrified at the time it was just crazy and to be able to speak with Stephen again
and Leslie Manning the director it was again another joy and one of the other things that
I think we always had to discuss this year Roswell it's 75 years since whatever happened happened
and it was inevitable that we should be discussing something about it now we've actually got other
articles that we intend to publish in in different ways very very shortly but Phil Kinsella actually
put together this this really well thought out you know are we really any closer to understanding
what happened 75 years ago because everybody's got a different slant of what happened there's the
the varying official versions there's the varying accounts of of eyewitnesses on the thing will we
ever find out will we ever get that full disclosure that everybody talks about I don't know we're
gonna I really don't I think it'll be one of the great secrets and mysteries that'll probably
supersede this legacy when we're finished doing it yeah I know it seems like you guys watch the show
where they did the lie detector algorithm on all the the people who testified from the lie detector
them on all the the people who testified from the town who were there all the kids of them it's on
discovery plus it's called Roswell the verdict or something and they somebody made a computer
algorithm some sort of computer engineer and it like does all their like facial tics and I can
tell basically if you're pretty pretty well if you're lying or not and they applied it to like
everybody military personal people who lived in the town and it tells who was lying and who was
not most of them were telling the truth from what that algorithm said it's an interesting show if
you're doing an article on Roswell I would watch it it's pretty cool but then you you can say that
somebody's telling the truth but that be that might be their truth that they persuaded them
over a series of years it may not be any more than a than a well thought out story but just becomes
belief after a period of time it's just it's one of those curious things with the paranormal the
stronger you kind of think about something more it can it can actually be the case and yeah I would
I would love for us to get full evidence that aliens crashed in in the desert will we ever find out
I don't know I don't read the day after did read the day after Roswell by Colonel Philip Pauso
no that's a fantastic book he wrote it on his deathbed so really he had no no reason to lie
nothing to gain nothing to really lose like the guy was down he was like I don't remember
dad to cancer whatnot but he was on his deathbed when he wrote it so you know that's a pretty cool
book yeah it's crazy because I you know that like you said it's one of the most you know
famous things in history especially over here it's constantly being talked about and you know it's
so crazy because now you're getting all this stuff from the pentagon over here and the CIA that are
releasing all these footages and all this kind of stuff like another footage was just released by
Ben Hansen who actually has a tv show as you probably know on discovery plus and he actually
just got a fighter pilot that released the cockpit image and what he saw in the sky and everything
and it was all taken while he was in the plane which was cool but he just released it on twitter
the other day and it's so funny because all these disclosure that they're releasing is
all these disclosure that they're releasing now and it's so funny because we'll have all of this
stuff from here now forward it seems but we'll never get that answer to what we want to know
about the past and it's it becomes such a pain I think you know but it's great because that's a
part of the paranormal we get to make our own kind of conclusion in our own thought process but like
you said yeah you know what is really a belief it's you know a thought thought over and over
and over for a long period of time until it resonates with you or if it does resonate with
you and then it becomes belief so technically it's like you know are we getting people's true
stories like you're saying or are we getting their their truths so I totally understand
what you mean but that's a great way to look at it absolutely Robin I think as well as JLo with
while we're on the Roswell topic I think it's like I mean we all know that something happened there
now it would be especially back in the end days when it did happen it would be pretty
foolish and silly of someone to say right well I'm gonna make up a story that an alien spaceship
crashed because that person especially I mean even now it would be there would be a laugh and
stalk but back in them days when the paranormal and UFOs and stuff like that wasn't wasn't
believed it was like you were insane if you believed in all that you know for someone to
come out and think right you know there was a car crash but I'm gonna say it was an alien spaceship
you know people are gonna go really you know call them in the white coats for him so I think that
the people have actually came out and said that and said what there was there I personally think
there's something in it you know I don't know if you guys ever heard this story from over here but
I believe it was like 1887 there was a there was a town it was down south no there was this town in
this this I guess UFO or whatever crashed in this town and the little green man that was inside of
this UFO they actually had a funeral service for it was in the paper and they actually buried him
and they had a funeral procession for this this alien or whatever you would like to call it
alien or whatever you would like to call it and they actually didn't put a regular tombstone they
put a rock that has like a space man or something drawing like chiseled into the rock over the grave
and it was actually recently brought on one of the shows on discovery and they actually went to go
excavate his grave which is actual a known grave come to find out the day like they went there to
go excavate the next day they were going to excavate and that night somebody came in they
believed from the government from what the people were telling them at the funeral place at the
cemetery that they came in they dug the entire body up excavated and now all the remains are
gone but it sat there the remains until recently a couple years ago in this cemetery and it's just
so weird to think about because it's like if there isn't something then why would you go to that extent
you know so the farmer who the farmer who took the wreckage he threw it down an old well on his
property and anybody who went near the well got radiation poisoning and ended up dying so he
back filled the whole thing in and covered it all up and cemented it over actually i believe
there's so much and that's why and that's why i think it's so important for a magazine like you
guys to be able to cover it all because you know you know like we said earlier you know it's not
just for one person say that's into spirits in the afterlife it's you know for someone to open up
their mind even further if they're in one category of the paranormal or if they don't believe in the
paranormal at all to wait for them to get all of these experiences all these different articles
together in a very professional and um how do i put this like a well-liked manner where people
actually go to and get some good information from and it's not just hoaxing you know hocus pocus
that you guys are putting in it's actual real stuff that you guys are technically reporting on
in a way you know but the articles and certain things so it opens the minds of a lot of people
now tell me where do you guys want to go with this magazine in the future paul i'll ask you this
question first what do you want to see happen with this magazine down the road i think we've always
we've always approached the magazine with wanted to grow it uh you know as as slowly but rather
than go gung-ho and print so many copies and then then then not sell that kind of thing but i think
the main thing for us is just spreading the paranormal love and the kindness and everything
and you know i'm a big believer in people having opinions and views and comments and thoughts on
the paranormal but doing it with kindness and spreading the paranormal niceness because there's
so many negativity in the paranormal that gets mentioned on social media but i believe the
social the negativity is only a small percentage but because it's exploded and people talk about it
it becomes it looks like in your bubble like with the real real work you know love the paranormal
it looks like it's quite a lot there but most people are good most people are great uh and then
and respect people's opinions and kindness we want that for the magazine we want to grow it
you know slowly but surely we want to spread it to more obviously we're in you know dan dan
claus in a wanted in jail now stocks the magazine uh any ships to usa and canada we're in barnes and
noble too um we just want to grow i want people to uh love the paranormal appreciate what you know
what the people are saying and the writers you know we never say that what they're saying is
factual this is they're writing about their experiences and that's the beauty of it you know
yeah they do put a bit of history in it and you know like richard eastep writes about um the
buildings that he's been to but he actually goes to locations and investigates and he kind of puts
in what uh what he's experienced on that that investigation plus a bit of the history so i
think you know and andy makes it a different i just want to grow the magazine and i want to just
spread the paranormal far and wide to people who want to want to read it you know that's that's
what we want to do really amen amen to that how about for you andy what would you like to see
yeah well i think as paul said growth is is is important to us we want to keep expanding get
the word out there about magazine the way that we present paranormal i mean we aren't the only
paranormal magazine by our country mal there's lots of people doing their own things which is
great and they're doing it in their way we're doing this in our way and we don't really have
any kind of taboos uh if we want to be able to feature anything i mean last issue we had
the names of wallison hall i mean not many magazines would would feature this story it's
a very slight story about uh what happened to some children in the 70s and i i think just given that
element accessibility knowing that the the origins for me of the unexplained magazine bringing that
style on to a fresh audience knowing that that we can reach people in a very different way
that's really where it is for me i mean we really thought that digital would be the way forward for
the magazine but to be perfectly honest with you when you hold this magazine in print it's just an
experience in its own right um and the whole tactile nature of picking something up reading
about it some some articles are maybe a five minute read some are a 20 minute read but by the
end of it i hope that you've kind of got something different or that's better or at least a view that
you possibly wouldn't have had prior to reading that particular article and because some of these
articles are so eclectic and so i mean the haunted structure stuff that we have in the magazine by
amy baratyr is just phenomenal because these are our local accounts they're not widely in the public
domain yeah and yeah here we are we've got a writer that's doing specifically this stuff and
it's like amazing it's just such a joy for me as a designer to work with and i know that when we
we put these magazines together it's really made with a sense of of love of what we're doing and
we can see from the writers that they are so incredibly passionate and so into what they are
talking about that this is what really for me is all around but the key thing the key ingredient
now is to reach more people we owe these writers the service to get read and we want the whole
thing to be read by as many people so the more the guys like yourself and spreading the message for
us then the better that is and you know if you have a story that you think hasn't been told
anywhere or an investigation experience that isn't in the public domain they just get in touch because
that's the kind of thing that we we really like to have a look at i mean these ghost photos out there
from people that have taken on investigations are mind-blowing now we can't always feature them in
the magazine and some of them don't necessarily hold to scrutiny when when you kind of go through
all the the photoshop tools and things that you can have to kind of understand whether somebody has
played shall we say um but you know it it's just a joy to work with this and we want to keep going
through for as long as we possibly can doing it yeah no i totally agree and it's so funny because
that was going to be one of the last questions i was going to have for you guys later in a little
bit was where can how can we someone reach out and you know maybe have an article that they might
have something to share for an article to get to you guys um is there any type of um location they
can go to i would say like your facebook or anything along those lines where can they
email maybe or anything that you can give the viewers yeah i mean you can obviously we're on
twitter and instagram and facebook just just search for a onto magazine and it won't pop up
but also we've got emails paul at auto magazine dot co.uk and the auto magazine dot co.uk you know
like i said before we asked andy mentioned amy voucher and the shropshire she's a first time
writer for the magazine and in fact she was nervous about approaching because she wasn't sure whether
you know whether we'd be interested but the what she the words are fantastic and the stories are
fantastic and it's a pleasure to feature her in the magazine but you know i'm a big believer in
everyone's got a story and if they want to tell it and they want to tell it to us and they want
to send it to us we'll do our best to feature it if we can you know and and uh you know a lot of
our writers are first timers a lot of writers are established authors um but uh yeah if you just
search for auto magazine on the socials and we'll pop up somewhere down the line and but also
andy at auto magazine dot co.uk and also paul at auto magazine dot co.uk and you'll find us
you know we're on twitter a lot probably twitter and instagram more than more than facebook uh
probably um but um you know we like we like to interact we're big believers in interaction with
with you know with people who send us messages or or who want to chat to us about something
believe social media is is is big in the paranormal bigger than it ever is ever has been in the
paranormal you know the people you can reach just by talking by a tweet these days is is phenomenal
uh but yeah we're approachable and you'll find us and someone's put the link down there and uh
thank you raven and yeah um search on the socials for us and we'll we'll be there somewhere
doing our thing yeah no absolutely absolutely i um i i just want to say to our viewers real quick
if you have any questions right now for uh andy or paul please write them in the comments um we
will put them up on the screen and we will ask them right now um we're coming close to the end
of the of the uh episode but i uh wanted to uh have steve do you have anything you would like
that real quick uh no it's been a great show it's very fascinating i sometimes i don't ask
questions i just like to listen and you know take and absorb everything in so it's it's really
knowledgeable because especially when you're involved in this type of work whether it's
magazines or anything paranormal it's always fascinating so i just want to say you guys great
job and it's a pleasure to meet you as well yeah likewise you know and is your is your name
stevenson or steve are your nicknames are on at all are you a stevenson too no i well steve was
basically a nickname given to me by my best friend we had this clique in high school and everybody
was given a nickname right and uh they couldn't figure out one for me so they're like well what
would you take steve because you're the guy that does all the crazy stuff so okay yes yeah cool
cool beans i got one go ahead you know what you guys um i think that the biggest biggest factor
of why your magazine will grow is the fact that you bring a really non-biased aspect to it you
present everybody's experiences and different aspects of it from a really non-biased way which
you know even i would have a hard time doing but it's funny because sometimes i've come across
theories or things i hear people say something and been like oh gee that that sounds like
you know bs to me or wouldn't work and then i i come across a piece of evidence in review or
i experienced something that i'm like oh my god that that actually is a possibility portals stuff
like that things i would have thought initially were were garbage now i know to be true it's it's
uh it's really an awesome way to present things and honestly i would have a difficult time doing
it but it's awesome that you guys do it that way i had this little one come over because she was
actually featured in a uk series last year called are you guys familiar with the truly network
over there uh my extraordinary family they call this up out of the blue because they saw her in
one of our ghost hunting videos from way back when and wanted to do a show on her and uh she is the
future of all this so i hope you guys do this for a long time because something like that would be
huge to help her grow her brilliant she's like such an inquisitive little girl and she knows so
much about the panel she's lived in two haunted homes and her parents are our panel investigators
do a tv show build equipment i mean i can't lie to her i gotta tell her the truth when she asks
the question so that's pretty awesome stuff so hopefully you do it for a very long time i wish
you guys the the best of success and it really it has been an awesome interview you guys are
a really fascinating I love all you guys from the uk anyway i love the accents i love
i'm just happy because i've got people i can talk to from the uk as well
yeah yeah yeah we're in the app stores so ios and android on the
the pocket mags, you can find the magazine available there,
like a flip book type thing.
So yeah, it's all available.
Yeah, iOS, Android, definitely.
Yeah.
Sweet, sweet.
And like, I like actual magazines,
but I was just wondering if it was available.
But yeah, that's fantastic.
It is a very, very, very fantastic magazine.
It's very cool.
It's quality.
Like this is- It is high quality.
It is.
Yeah, you did a fantastic job.
Fantastic.
Thank you.
It really is.
It's great because like she just said, it is quality.
I mean, I have a couple of people that I do know
that do type of magazines,
mostly just in the afterlife spiritual type realm.
But the way that you guys do this,
the professionalism, just everything,
the writers that you guys have,
the information, the topics, they really go far away.
So if anyone is watching and anyone who will watch,
please check out Haunted Magazine.
You could, we have the link at the bottom.
It's www.hauntedmagazineprintshop.com.
Get your subscription now, Tuesday, September 6th.
The next issue, I believe 36, correct?
Issue 36?
35. 35.
Oh, it's 35.
Oh, I'm jumping ahead.
I'm sorry.
You're jumping ahead.
You've seen the future.
Tuesday.
Come on AJ, I'm trying to teach you here.
I know.
Tuesday's at 35?
No, I thought we were on 35.
Tuesday's at 35?
Okay, well hey, Tuesday.
There we are.
There you go.
Yeah, exactly.
I was prepping for a head.
I'm sorry.
Okay, well listen.
Anyway, get your subscription guys to Haunted Magazine.
These guys are absolutely amazing.
Team Haunted is amazing.
You're gonna love everything in it.
Doesn't matter what category you're in in the paranormal,
whether it's the afterlife spirits,
whether it's cryptids or UFOs or anything,
they touch it all.
Like they said, you could check it out in Barnes and Noble.
They are like spreading all over the world like rapid fire
and we wish them the absolute most success.
And we hope that you guys would love to come on again.
We would love to have you guys on
and we'd love to hear more.
So.
Yeah, we're prepping it too.
Cool.
I need you to put it in my ear.
AJ, he's from Connecticut.
Yeah, I'm a slave.
I already can't.
But thank you guys so much, Paul.
Thank you so much guys.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Paul.
You've been awesome.
It was a pleasure.
Thank you.
God bless you guys and we'll be spreading the message, man.
Keep up the great work.
I'll stay in touch.
Thank you.
Good day.
Bye bye.
Take it easy guys.
Bye.
Have a good day.
Bye bye.
We'll be right with you.
Bye.
So guys, that was absolutely awesome.
That was such a cool, cool episode.
Joanne, thank you so much for joining us.
I can't wait to check out your app.
For everyone who doesn't know
or who doesn't have their subscription to Haunted Magazine yet,
Joanne has created the Alice app for ITC.
It's in iOS, I believe, but Android right now.
So you can go and check that out.
It also is for desktop.
So please go and check that out as well.
I've heard some great things in the article.
Like I said, you could check it out
on the Haunted Magazine article that's out right now.
And please check it out.
I mean, Joanne, that's some great work.
Note, please, you don't have to thank us for nothing.
Please get in contact with us
because I'd love to have you on as well.
You can email us at talkingwiththesource at gmail.com.
We'd love to get in touch with you, Joanne,
and have you come on and talk to you further about ITC
and all that you're doing with Alice.
So we look forward to it.
And thank you guys all to the viewers that are watching us,
that have watched us.
And every episode, feel free to join us.
Ask questions for either us or guests in the comments.
And we absolutely love it.
So unfortunately, Raymond had to step out for a few,
but it's all good.
We have Steve-O here for once, which I'm pumped.
I'm pumped.
We have Sonny for Cat.
I mean, what more could you want?
That's what I mean.
We got the little one, we got Steve-O,
we got the whole Todd,
we got the whole relatively paranormal family.
I mean, we can't ask for much more people.
Listen, do you know more about the paranormal
than most of the people on TV?
Isn't that sad, right?
No.
Oh, I knocked out of it.
There we go.
AJ's gone.
Yeah, no, I'm back.
Am I back?
Yeah, you're good.
All right, cool, I'm back.
But guys, thank you so much for joining us
for this episode.
It was a pleasure, Ross.
And I wanna thank everyone.
I wanna thank everyone for watching.
And again, go check out Haunted Magazine.
Again, we had Paul Stevenson, ae.sour.
We have Andy Sour with us today.
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And until next time, we appreciate all of you,
and God bless.
See you later.
Three times you've been there?
You're holding out on me, buddy.
Three times at 30 each time?
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that, bro.
We're gonna have to have a talk.
That's awesome.
Three times, huh?
Woof.