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What's going on everybody? This is AJ Capasso here from Talking with the Source and Coventry

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Circle Paranormal and I'm here with my good old friend from the UK.

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Robin Heffern from Heffern Paranormal and Talking with the Source.

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Wow, you know what, I was a little confused by that for a second because you were like

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Robin and then you were like Heffern Paranormal. I was a little confused. I'm like what, he

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just changed it to Heffern Paranormal?

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Yeah, I'm just mixing it up a little bit AJ, mixing it up.

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Oh, okay, okay. See how you're lagging a little bit. That's awesome. I get to see you with

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your mouth open half the time. This is pretty cool. I love it. We have our good friend Raymond

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with us. Raymond, how you doing brother?

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Alright, I'm Raymond Newsome from Newsome Paranormal.

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So guys, we have an awesome guest with us today. I want to obviously do some shout outs

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real quick. I know that maybe Todd and Marissa will be joining us and maybe Steve-O. So Robin,

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look out for them for me. I want to give a shout out to everyone over at Through the

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Lens right now with Brian and Lex. I want to give a shout out to Brian and Lex because

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I believe their podcast may have just ended or it's still going right at the moment. So

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I want to give a shout out to Brian Laverty real quick, a Hunnifobia Canada who's on ParaFlex.

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Please go over to ParaFlex, get your free subscription and go over and check out Hunnifobia.

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Check out our friends from Beyond the Veil and True North Paranormal. I mean, just amazing

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people, amazing teams doing some amazing stuff. We are live right now on ParaPost Network.

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I know it's kind of hard to see because Raymond's background is pretty white like the rest of

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ours, but it's all good. But we're on ParaPost Network. I'll go over to Facebook. Check out

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ParaPost Network on Facebook. It's the home of a live podcast like this, live paranormal

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podcast. We have live investigations, live tarot readings, all different live stuff. We

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want to thank everyone who's with us right now in the comments. I'll be getting you guys

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in a minute. We want to shout out to GlobalGhostHunt.com. If you have a team or you're a researcher,

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you want to register for the 2023 May and October 10-day event. It's five days in May,

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five days in October. Full team support, full location support. If you have a location,

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make sure to jump over there as well and register on the GlobalGhostHunt site so that people

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can get the exposure that you deserve along with the teams that can get their exposure

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that they deserve during this event. They'll be streaming live all over the globe. It's

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going to be an amazing event. I want to give a shout out to G-Team Paranormal investigators,

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Patty Adams and her daughter. I want to give a huge shout out to them. We also want to

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give a shout out to Patty's new podcast, the G-Team Paranormal podcast. Her daughter has

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recently been on a couple episodes, so please go to Facebook, all these social medias and

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check it out. We want to also give a shout out to P3 program. Three souls, what's going

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on guys? Appreciate you guys for being here. Head over to the P3 program. It's basically

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a program of just unity and everything in the paranormal. Please jump over there on

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Facebook and all the other social medias. As well as we want to give a shout out to

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Jonathan Keyworth, one of our old hosts here. I'm talking with the source from JK47 Paranormal

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Investigations, doing some amazing spirit box work and spirit communication work. We

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cannot be more grateful. I want to give a shout out to one of our sponsors here, Media

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13, Dominic over at Media 13. We can't thank him enough for everything that he's done for

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us personally and all that he does in the paranormal field with 13 souls paranormal.

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Definitely go check out his work over there. Nando, what's up my brother? How are you?

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Nando is part of the global ghost hunt with me and with us. I tell you, he's a great person.

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Him and his wife are just absolutely amazing. I'm a little jealous though. They got to go

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on an Italy trip. I'm a little jealous. I'm Italian, so I never got to go to Italy. Nando,

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I'm hopping in your luggage next time, so save me some room. We want to give a shout

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out to Angelina and everyone over at Bat to the Bone Paranormal. Feel free to email her

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at the link below at battoftheboneparanormal.com, but check them out on YouTube and all these

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social medias. I want to give a shout out to our sister, Kata, in Australia over at

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Ethereal Sisters Paranormal, one of the amazing Australia teams. Please go check her out.

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We wanted to actually also shout out Todd's relatively paranormal equipment. If you're

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looking for some paranormal equipment, especially like SLS cameras, which he's selling them

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right now with everything included, very quality, has full directions. Everything's already

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set up. 64 gigabyte tablet for 285 on eBay, Etsy, Facebook Marketplace. I know that he

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just had a demonic case last night that he had to deal with, so I'm pretty sure he may

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not be able to jump in. Let me see if that is him or if that's... Nope, Steve-O. Hold

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on. There's Steve-O, our brother.

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How you feeling?

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Good, man. How are you guys?

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Good, man. Good, good. Glad you could join us, brother. Well, guys, we have an amazing

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guest today. Like I said, I may have to jump out because of work right at the moment, but

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I'm going to try and make it back, but we have an amazing guest. One of our great friends,

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someone that we love so dearly, and we are so happy that she's able to join us again

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on this show. It's such a pleasure to be able to talk to her. Even when we talk just in

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messages on Facebook, it's just absolutely so awesome. She's one of the most genuine

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people in this field and someone of her caliber in this field. It's just amazing how she has

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given our podcast a chance, other podcasts a chance that aren't really well known. For

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her to come on, it means so much. I know that the caliber that... She probably doesn't

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really realize how much we truly respect it, but it's such a warming to our heart. We want

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to introduce none other than the Good Witch of Hollywood, psychic medium, Patty Negri.

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Wait. I was here. I'm gone. Hi, you guys. Thank you for that beautiful introduction.

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Not a problem, please. Please.

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We cannot thank you enough for coming on and spending time with us, honestly, with how

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busy you are, everything, making time for our small podcast. It means more than anything

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Well, you are very welcome. I love you guys. I love coming on with you guys, so it's good.

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Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Robin and Raymond, I'm going to let you guys take

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this over. Robin, if you could, when I leave, it's going to rearrange some things. All you

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do is you're going to take your finger. You're just going to swipe Patty over to say the

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middle one so that she's right in the center for us. Sorry, Patty's messing with you there

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very soon. Thank you so much.

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Okay. Bye, Jay.

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Right. So I think that's actually the way he was going to have it anyway. Just before

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we start, I just want to say two things. I want to say from all of us talking with the

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source, RIP, the Queen, and our condolences to everybody in Britain and everybody involved.

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And also, today is the 23rd anniversary of September 11th. So for everybody over there

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that's affected, again, our condolences from talking with the source. Now, Patty, what's

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been going on with you since the last time you were on?

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Speechless. No, I've just been really busy. Everything has been going great. I've been

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on the road a lot because there's so many conventions, paranormal conventions, or I'm

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doing gallery readings. So pretty much every weekend, at least three or four days, when

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I said before we are now, I wake up somewhere else. Where am I? Oh, I'm in Chicago. I'm

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in Michigan in Michigan Paragon. Oh, no, I'm in Nevada. Oh, I'm in Australia. No, I haven't

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been in Australia in a long time. I'm in Ireland. I'm in UK. And I love it. But sleeping is

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something I'll figure out one of these days. But no, everything is really good. My television

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stuff is gangbusters. What I love, my YouTubers, the YouTubers I work with, because again,

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they have just such beautiful freedoms of what they get to do without network stuff

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has been going great. And my school. We started the school last year. I don't remember when

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I was on last University Magicus. I think I have 25 teachers now. Everything from Catholic

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priests, exorcists, witches, vampires, who do voodoo, Satan, everything of all things,

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you know, mystical and magical. We don't tell you there's any one truth, but we'll tell

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you everybody's that and then paraflex. So I just, again, I, I'm learning to retalk

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in complete sentences. Sounds like you've got a lot on your plate at the minute. What?

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It sounds like you've got a lot on your plate at the minute. Yeah, I do. But I obviously

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created that way. I mean, I do believe we create our home reality. So I like it. It's

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like, I always go, Oh, I'll sleep when I'm dead. And like, Oh, no, I won't. No, not even.

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I just want to quickly say before going further. Hello to David Hope, Sean Combe, who was

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there earlier. Strange and trippy. See who else? Cara as well, part of the global ghost

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hunt. And I know that they're not on here yet. What do I say? They're not on here yet,

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but there is George Alexander and a piece variety channel. I just want to ask you a

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question, Patty, about, as we were mentioning about the TV stuff there. And you did a, you

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did a show with Zach Beggin about the dolls, the possessions show. Peggy the doll, Peggy

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the doll. I did a seance with Peggy the doll. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I'm just, I'm fascinated

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by the whole thing with these dolls and especially the Annabelle doll as to how they can cause

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all these things. Yeah. They, well, energy is energy. A spirit, if you're a spirit, you

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know, there's everything is energy. We're energy, nothing solid, seventh grade science.

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with spirits. And if you were some spirit or some energy and you could go into an object,

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you know, are you going to go into a boring bell or a plate or something that has eyes

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and ears and nose and mouth? Heck, I'm going to go into a doll. Like you guys might notice

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right here, my little bell, she's 105 year old Dermondoll. I got a girl sent her to me

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after she saw me doing the Peggy the doll seance with Zach, who Peggy the doll, for

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those who don't know, she's documented given two people heart attacks and made millions

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of people sick, not millions, but lots of people sick, even seeing video of her. And

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I knew Zach had flown me into Vegas to do the seance. And the night before, when I first

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flew in in my hotel, my phone blew up, the TV in the hotel, it's a fancy nice hotel room

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blew up. My shower was turning on and off. The lights were flashing. Everything was like,

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oh, this is going to be fun. You know, that day flies got attacked for Zach. You know,

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it was crazy. Again, energy, you're going to take, I mean, in a good sense too, I work

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with positive fetishes and dolls and things from my kitchen, which, you know, runs my

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household to whatever, but they can take on into an object, the spirit. And now my bell,

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you might see her move or blink or look at you or things like that. She, I got it kind

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of far away today because she freaks some people out. But a girl had sent her to me

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after seeing the Peggy the doll. She figured with my permission, she figured if I could

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handle Peggy the doll, I could handle bell bell had made her sick for like three years

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and made her little girl sick, made their hair fall out, made them just everything.

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So she saw, she goes, well, you take her. She didn't know what to do with her. She only

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worked if she kept her in a drawer, which, which bell didn't like, or put her out in

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the shed, which bell didn't like. So she sent her to me. And this is how strong bell was.

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I had never, this was several years ago. Now I had never done a Facebook live before. Never.

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I mean, I have a lot of followers, not like millions of followers. I had never done a

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Facebook live. I opened her up. I'm going to open her up on guy. I don't know what I'm

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getting into. Um, 50,000 people watched me open the doll, not my power, not my energy,

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not my draw. It was the energy of this doll. I get like, Ooh, 300 people watch or maybe

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a thousand people watched not 50,000. That was my first one ever. It was a doll energy

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and I opened her up and she was dark. I would not let the sun go down before I banished

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the dark energy that was in her. Cause I didn't want all my hair to fall out. I, um, and then

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this beautiful, sweet little girl spirit came out. So, um, so every, with the popularness

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of haunted dolls now, everybody wants a haunted doll. And I just say, be aware and use your

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own in your own intuition. Cause everybody's got one. If something sounds too good to be

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true and it's on eBay or on the internet and that seller happens to have 72 haunted dolls,

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maybe it's not really haunted. You know, it's, it's turned into a weird thing. They want,

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honestly, I think you could find better haunted dolls at a thrift store antique store. And

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then again, we all have this intuition. Anybody in the paranormal field, like everybody watching

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this show, you have some kind of a gift or you wouldn't even be interested in this silly

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stuff unless you had some kind of a thing. So use that gift that you have to go haunted,

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not haunted. You know, I, on another thing, can teach you how to call in a spirit to your

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doll, but that's a different day.

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Yeah. The last time you were on, if you remember, there was actually an orb came out of the

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door and then ran your head.

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I yeah, no, I don't remember. I don't remember yesterday. I hadn't, now what's funny, I don't

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remember. I talked about this, this doll, a girlfriend sent her to me. She thought, oh,

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she would keep my Peggy company. She didn't know if she was haunted or not. I was teaching

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my class, my university magic class, and she was sitting here next, maybe off screen like

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this. I'm talking, I'm teaching, but both my hands are visible. All of a sudden, this

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doll went, I didn't even notice because I'm talking into my zoom camera like this, but

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people in the class noticed I tried debunking it every which way. And I'm looking at the

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doll going, the doll is not haunted. The doll is not haunted. But we did that orb thing.

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I blew up the video, blew up the video, and I literally watched an orb come out from my

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little sign right there into this doll, move this doll. So if something came into this

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doll and literally moved it across my desk, that was trippy. But again, this doll still

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is not haunted.

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Steve or Rym and the V, any questions for Putty?

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Yes. What has been your most exciting trip so far this year?

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This year, well, exotic, I mean, wild and far, I think really was Ireland. I had a really

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fun thing at Bosworth Hall in the UK. That was great, I think with Karen Frey. But Ireland

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with having the fairy farm experience and have the fairies literally pick me up and

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turn me around 180 degrees without me noticing that I had turned 180 degrees. That was pretty

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trippy. I just got back as far as experiences. I was just at Joliet Prison this past weekend

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with Elton and Corey and the overnight guys. And then the next night we were at Missouri

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State Prison. And that was my first time at both of those. And those were pretty active

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as far as, okay, a lot of prisoner ghosts.

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Yeah. Steve?

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All right. My phone has been acting up all day. Sorry.

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You're all right.

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Haunted.

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Yeah, right. I got lots of energy. I live in a hundred year old house.

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Me too. Yeah, that's awesome.

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I know it's good. So what would you say your favorite show would be that you got to participate

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couple shows a season. So I've done a lot of Ghost Adventures and I never know what

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I'm getting into. Whatever people say about that show and there's a reason it's been on

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so long because they just commit. They will have me blindfolded, thrown in the trunk of

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a car practically. And if I know, I don't know what's going on. So I go in, Patty, you

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tell us what happened. I used to be scared. What if I get nothing? What if I'm not psychic

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today? What if I get crickets? But that hasn't happened yet. And if I do know a location,

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like if I've told them about a location or something, they won't have me go in. They

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want it so authentic and that makes me really happy. Really happy. And again, they're so

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committed. They're like little kids. You see little kids playing and that full commitment,

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they have it cranked up. So it's always fun. I just worked once so far with Jack Osborne

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and Katrina Weidman on Portals to Hell. That was really fun because same thing, I didn't

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know where I was going. I mean, I knew they were flying me to Memphis. That's all I knew.

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And again, I like a challenge. So that was pretty fun. And again, I think other than

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I can name every location and tell you what was the best about that location. I still

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think the Cecil Hotel and everything I've done there is the craziest place. I did two

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nights there with Ghost Adventures for their whole big Cecil Hotel. I did one long night

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there with my overnight YouTuber guys. And I just did another show there called Mysteries

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Decoded, a CW show. And just because that place is so dark, so depressing and sad. And

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I've led Zach and the guys right to a window where he's yelling at me because I'm trying

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to, I'm opening the window saying I got to get out of here. And I led them right to a

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room where somebody jumped out that window. And I'm like, why is he yelling at me? Then

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same thing when I was with the overnight guys. When I channeled, it's kind of like dream

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state and I rock. I do, I rock. And I was rocking and I thought I was talking. I knew

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it was kind of like probably a druggie talking, but I was talking, talking, talking. All they

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heard was gibberish, which surprised me because I thought I was talking English. But Corey,

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who I've worked with a lot and he's grown so much in his own ability, he goes, we should

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play that backwards. They played it backwards. And I was speaking English backwards. That's

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trippy even for me. He's like, wow. Should I put that on my resume? Cause I honestly,

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I can't do, I can't even do the alphabet backwards. Like if the cops pulled me over, have you

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been drinking? No. Do the alphabet backwards. I couldn't. Z, X, Y, X, Y, Z. I can't. So

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I could not on my own speak English backwards. Yeah. Yes. So I think that place. Yeah. There's,

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there's a lot of things about that hotel Cecil. Everybody always associates it with that,

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with that young girl that went missing in there. But I think it's not the hotel where

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there was also a, wasn't it a serial killer that was standing there? Two. Richard Ramirez,

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Richard Ramirez. And he was killing people when he lived there. And then some other German

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serial killer had got out of jail for killing people and came to America and started killing

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people here. Yeah. And more suicides, more murders, more people jumping out windows,

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throwing babies out windows. That place, it's had so much darkness attached to it. It was

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built to be a beautiful, like fancy place in the day, in the, in the twenties, but then

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the depression hit and it was always, always a place of sadness and depression. And just

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walking up to it, you just start feeling like this hopelessness. My first time through,

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I mean, a rat didn't even want to let me in. Yeah. We're downtown. We're by Skid Row and

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there's rats, but rats usually scurry away. They might startle you, but this rat would

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like I'd go right and the rat would go right and I'd go left and the rat would go left.

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We're dancing in the middle of the street going, this is weird. Is he, is he possessed

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or is he protecting me? I don't know. It just starts overtaking you. It's downtown LA as

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well, isn't it? Yeah. It's downtown LA and there's so much energy down there. I just,

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cause I do a lot of clearings of homes. I just cleared this beautiful apartment right

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across the street from the Cecil. I had to put so much extra protection cause it was

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oozing up from the street that again, it just vibrates the energy and it's sadness. And

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what scares me about now and what I'm planning to do, I haven't officially announced it yet.

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Maybe now is it's, it's a 700 room hotel and it's empty, but now they're moving in homeless

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people, which concept is great or people it's called section eight housing, people who can't

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afford housing and we need it. People are on the street, but that is the worst place

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they can be moving people into you guys. That place makes happy, sane people want to kill

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themselves and get depressed and feel hopeless. And it really has, it's really affects anybody

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with a mental imbalance or maybe drug or alcohol problem, which is most of the people moving

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in and I want to do, maybe if I can pull it together by the fall equinox, I want to do

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a great big, let's everybody gather and like bless the Cecil hotel. They probably won't

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let us in, but every healer, shaman, witch, rabbi, priest, Reiki master, I don't care

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with love and life to get in there and just clear that place. So I don't want to say,

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don't use these 700 rooms, but people don't want to move in. Um, last time I was there,

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I snuck my way in, I bribed my way in. It's not hard. Um, um, the people who, the only

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30 people had moved in so far out of the 700 rooms and you're off because it's so icky

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and already those people walking in were like zombies more than they would have been and

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already ambulances are pulling up. So it needs clearing of the Nth degree. So I just, and

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I don't even know one person could do it. So if I could gather everybody, uh, how they

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probably won't let us in. I mean, but a big hold hands, Kumbaya standing around the Cecil

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hotel, clear it. So those people can live there a little bit safer. Yeah. That's what

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Hey Jay, you're back.

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I am back. I am back. You know, I, Patty, I didn't give you the warning that I would

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be putting you full screen sometimes.

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Oh, that's okay.

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I apologize.

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Are you finished work now?

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Yeah, listen, I just heard you guys talking about Cecil hotel and um, I had to tell my

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boss, listen, I'm sorry, but Patty's with us. I got to stay too bad for work right at

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the moment. So,

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Yay!

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The thing, the thing that I was saying though, I was saying to Patty a minute ago, AJ was

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with the, with the Cecil hotel, everybody associates it, you know, when you mentioned

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the name of it, oh yes, that girl went missing, but there was so much else going on in there

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apart from that, that it always sort of gets overlooked.

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Yeah. Yeah. No, I understand. Yeah. No, I totally feel you. I mean, that episode was

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absolutely crazy that the Cecil hotel episode with you guys. I mean, I can't even imagine

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what you were feeling when you walked in Patty, because of all the energy there. I mean, I,

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I mean, I'm not, I'm nowhere near as sensitive as you, but I'm sensitive and let me tell

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you, the energy I feel is just amazing. So I can't feel, I can't imagine what you feel.

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Yeah. Again, and that's really what it was. That was, I didn't know where I was going.

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Zach had called me a couple of weeks before and he said, okay, we're coming to LA and

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we're going to need you for something. Okay. Great. Didn't hear from him. Two weeks, two

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weeks. Then I get, I'm down at my brother's, which I'm a little bit out of town and it's

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like, Hey Zach, can you get here? So it was down in two hours. And I'm like, two hours,

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you know, I'm a girl. It's like, uh, did I brush my hair today? Did I do have time to

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put on lipstick? I'm not, and I swear he didn't tell me it was the Cecil. He just said, I

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think he just said, uh, downtown address, blah, blah, blah. So I didn't know. So I'm

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driving. Yeah. And I, and I saw the sign. I saw the water towers. I go, Oh, that's that

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Alyssa lamb place. Just like Robin said that that's that Alyssa. I didn't even know. Cause

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I don't research things. So I didn't even know the Richard Ramirez stuff because again,

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it is over like, but that's where I parked my car and I'm walking up the street and the

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rat didn't want to let me in. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I have a call time. I have to get

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there and a rat won't let me in. I'm negotiating with the rat middle of the street. And then

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I walk in and the building's already taken over me. And then there's Zach and Aaron and

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all the guys like already their cameras strapped on. They've already been there for a while

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going, okay, Patty, here we go. 700 rooms all unlocked. You go and you tell us where

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to go. And I'm already going into like, ha ha ha ha. And then like, okay, we go in the

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elevator. I'm like, Oh, this is that elevator. This is the Alyssa lamb. Is it the elevator

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gate is like, ah, yeah, I remember when I remember when you hold on one sec. Sorry about

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that. I remember when you were when you were last time on and you were talking about the

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rat and I was just laughing to seeing that in my head. I was just laughing because I

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could totally picture that. Like the rat just being like, listen, no, you're not going in.

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I know. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Stay outside. It's much safer. Yeah,

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right. Yeah. You would not think that right. One thing I wanted to ask you was I mean,

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Steve, oh, and also now Robin, too, we've been doing obviously a lot of spirit communication.

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We use a lot of obviously spirit boxes, certain devices like that. And Steve has this technique

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where he will actually use his own audio source, like he'll pick different types of audio clips.

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So reverse them, make sure that they're completely no words, no, no phrases. And then he'll feed

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it into his portal device, which will have a reverse delay and some reverb, different

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types of frequencies used into the box. And I tell you, some of the responses are absolutely

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amazing. I mean, right, Steve, the last one I just shared about your guys, I mean, tell

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tell a little bit about what was going on in some of those sessions with that. I mean,

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that was with the miracle box. We talk about the ones with your your regular audio. Steve,

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oh, you're my fault, buddy. There we go. There you go. Yeah, sort of delayed today. Anyway,

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so basically, I can use any type of audio. It could be like my wife and I have been in

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this for almost 10 years. And I can reverse that chop it up. And I'll feed it through

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my box. And what I'm looking for is no matter if I use like the HSB one or the miracle box

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or any other type of app, what I'm looking for is the same type of validation that I

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get from those when it comes through the source of audio that I'm using through my box. And

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I mean, the angels, the guides, the spirits that come through are just tremendous. They

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just take on to it and use it. You know, recently I've made a two pop one I've been trying to

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get in contact with him. And, you know, I did one with his own voice and the spirits

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even go as far as changing his voice in that audio to their own voice. So I mean, like,

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when I ask about a certain question and they're like, Pock's mother is right. And I've already

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listened to all this audio and there's nothing in the audio that, you know, could be a false

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positive to that. So I mean, what comes through is truly amazing.

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Wow, that's amazing. I think with all the development you got, you, you, you, you tech

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beautiful people that you guys that I'm not inventing all this stuff. I think spirits are

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really like learning to use it. What I like about it is a validation. You know, I've been

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saying for years that spirits going like this, but now there's an SLS camera or something

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that will show that what's going on in a different room, but it gets stronger and stronger. I

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think like my phone is getting more and more possessed by the day.

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, there's more and more, there's more and more things that, that's,

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that's happening. And us as a group, I find that, you know, me, AJ and Steve, especially,

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we sort of come up with new ideas each and different ideas and stuff like that. But it

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all comes back to communication. I mean, I've started a thing on my party where I'm calling

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it the celebrity cemetery series, or I'm going to a cemetery over here where there's a celebrity

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buried and I'm not saying who it is. And I'm asking the spirits that are there, can they

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give me the name? I've done one so far and they've said the name multiple times. So it's

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again, it's what you said is validation is validating what's happening with the person

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that's there. They're validating that, you know, I mean,

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yeah, it's, it's, it's technology with the psychic ability is crashing together, just

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like science and spirituality is crashing together into the quantum sciences, quantum

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mechanics, quantum everything. That's the same thing with again, validation for all

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this stuff. It's, I love it. I wanted to ask you, Patty, about that.

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Actually, I wanted to ask. So now with in America, with all these, with obviously you're

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in California, correct? All the way out there. Yeah. So you've already had legal marijuana

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out there for a long time. And I don't want to, the reason why I want to get on this subject

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is I want to ask you with people using more now that type of substance, well, that obviously

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number one, open up the third eye for people and will it raise the consciousness of people

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with the more people doing it? Because I was wondering, does that affect anything with

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psychic at all in someone's body? Since I know psychedelics obviously do, but there's

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something along that line. I, well, I think that's as individual as

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everything else. If you're just, if you're doing it just to relax and you're just doing

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it to relax, if you're doing it to get high and party, then you're doing it to get high

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with party. Remember intention is everything. If you're going, okay, I'm going to eat this

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out of bowl. I can smoke this joint or whatever. It's like for my psychic development, you're

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going to get psychic openness or development out of it. But I really think it's intent.

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The whole world having marijuana legal, I don't know, it smells good walking down the

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street, but I don't know that that unless we choose it to change our consciousness,

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if it really will. Okay. Yeah. Cause I know like with like ayahuasca

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and stuff like that, obviously people have that intent going in. So I figured it was

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intent. I figured it was different. Yeah. So I was just wondering, I have friends that

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didn't, that when we were younger and they use like mushrooms, like a psychic dog like

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that. So Simon, they would have a spiritual experience, but wouldn't like, it wasn't like

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they were intending to have a spiritual experience or even thought like that when they were using

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it. How do we explain that? Well, I think number one, if you're talking

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youth, when you're younger, we're more open, we're less set in our ways, we're less jaded.

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When I work with young people now in whatever sense, whether it's YouTubers or tick tockers

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or in my classroom setting, they are more open. They are less set in their way. So they're

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more likely to have a spiritual experience because it's there. Other than that. Yeah.

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I think that would be, and it is again, marijuana is different. Cannabis is different than psilocybin

393
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is a psychotropic. That opens up DMT opens up ayahuasca. They are a different kind of

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a drug, a psychotropic drug different than what marijuana is.

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Okay. Yeah. No, I know exactly what you're talking about. I was just wondering because

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I know some people obviously had experiences with marijuana, but obviously that intent

397
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probably might've been there too as well. But like I said, like when we talked last

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time and you told us, I was all about a 10, I've been seeing that constantly throughout

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all my research from the beginning. So I know exactly what you're talking about, but yeah,

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no, I know that the two are different. I just was wondering, like, I wonder if you thought

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it would ever raise consciousness a little bit in people. I mean, obviously some people

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are using it to relax, like you said, in different things, but I just wanted to know if you thought

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that.

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Well, I think the way that it could do it, you know, just by nature of its being is by,

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because we know if for raising consciousness, it's that dance between the left logical brain

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and the right intuitive brain. Left logical brain gets us through livestock. It's a science

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pay your rent. Right is the spiritual, the connection, your psychic ability, your artistic

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side. I think maybe just the THC itself, the cannabis itself can relax that over chatty

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brain in some people. Some people, again, depends on the strain, just depends on what

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you're doing. Is it sativa? Is it, you know, is it whatever that is? But if you can shut,

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if it gets shut down or over judgmental self-limiting brain that can do it on its own.

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Okay. Yeah. No, I just wanted to know, because I've been seeing so many people now with the

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raise of it going up, especially where I live on the East Coast, since we've been like,

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they've been legalizing it like crazy over here. And I was just wondering, like, I wonder

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if it would do anything to, you know, the world consciousness in general, people that

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aren't really that technical spiritual, if they have like a spirit with it. I was just

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wondering if that could raise the consciousness of somebody and stuff like that along those

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lines. But you, you explained it perfectly. So I really appreciate it.

419
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Yeah. And that and the gentleness to it. Again, you don't want to go out and slug anybody

420
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in the head when you're high. So it's like, yeah, cool. Yeah. That will raise the consciousness.

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Not like let's go fight. It's like, yeah, you know. Yeah. That's why I was wondering.

422
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I was wondering if that could raise the consciousness of the world, because I, there's so much spirituality

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in the world. Yeah. I love it. I mean, I love how much it's coming into play now in people's

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lives and everything like that. Like, you don't actually technically have to be just

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religious. You're, you could be spiritual and not be religious. You know what I mean?

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So I love how the world is coming. And I see the consciousness of everybody growing every

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day and every year that comes on. Sometimes in certain instances, it feels like they're

428
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dropping a little, but you know, I think we're doing good.

429
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I think we're doing great. The divide. Yes. Is getting bigger. The non-spiritual, non-awakened

430
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people, they're going to sleep by the droves and falling out of the trees by growth. But

431
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I think you're right. More and more spirituality. Cause times are scary. Traditionally, whenever

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times are scary, worldwide pandemics, worldwide unrest, traditionally over the years and hundreds

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of years, when things got really scary, people would go to religion. They'd go to whatever.

434
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They go back to church, go back to temple. That's not holding up for everybody. So people

435
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are getting more alternative, new spirituality, old paganism, new age, whatever. And some

436
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people don't even want that, but they want to know, wait, there's more than what's out

437
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,040
there. There's more than what I could just see on my TV screen. They're becoming paranormal

438
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investigators and they're finding it back door. They want to know that there's more

439
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than they see this is going on and unrest here. They want to know, I don't want religion.

440
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I don't even want spirituality, but I have to know there's more than this three-dimensional.

441
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So they're discovering ghosts. And then from ghosts, they usually back door in, oh, there

442
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must be something behind this. And then they may discover a spirituality or a path or belief

443
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system that will serve them. Because I think your belief system is just so you can navigate

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whatever one. You take a typical Judeo-Christian one, you take a new age one, you take a pagan

445
00:37:55,240 --> 00:38:01,800
one, you make up your own, you take an atheist one, but it's to navigate life.

446
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,200
Thank you. Yeah. No, I love the way you just put that. I love that. It's so true too, because

447
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I've been seeing it a lot. I mean, look how many paranormal investigators, like teams

448
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:16,240
that we had in 2000 compared to now, like at least, I mean, I think it was only up to

449
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:20,840
like the minimum might've been like less than 10,000, I think back in like 2000. And then

450
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now it's over a million. You know what I mean? It's just amazing to see how many people now

451
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are, are exceeding. It's not Brian DeBone anymore. They used to be. Yeah. No. Yeah.

452
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,640
It's crazy. No, because people need to know there's something more and they, and they

453
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know there is something more and they want to figure out a way to go there. I mean, look

454
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at how many channel, like what you guys have with what we have with Paraflex, what discovery

455
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,920
travel to all those, it's not going away. It's just getting bigger. Yeah. Yeah. I've

456
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got a question for Patty. It's going to turn into two questions, but I'm in an assessment,

457
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:04,080
right? This is good. I want to know, Patty, what is your opinions on UFOs and what is

458
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your opinion on the 1947 Roswell incident? Because, because I was going to announce this

459
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:20,040
now. So you're hearing this first as well. We have a guest that's going to come on here,

460
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hopefully November time. And it's Jesse Marcel, who is the grandson of Jesse Marcel, who found

461
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:37,680
the parts on Roswell and the field. That's awesome. Well, I think that they have to exist.

462
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I forget what philosopher who was it that said it's, it frightens me to think that there

463
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is life on other planets, but it frightens me more to think if there wasn't of this endless

464
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universe. I think it was, I forget who it was. I think it was, I don't know who it was.

465
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I don't remember who it was, but, but that is a beautiful quote. And of course we can't

466
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be the only ones here. I honestly think some of my little friends I talked to when I was

467
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a kid probably were extraterrestrial. One of my mentors, one of my teachers, Maximilian

468
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de Lafayette, who sort of in some ways put me on the map with some things was he's an

469
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expert in ET stuff, a lot of Anunnaki stuff. He speaks 21 languages, most of them ancient

470
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like ancient Sumerian, which gets into Anunnaki. So in my seances as a role, ghosts will come,

471
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elementals will come, all sorts of things, but ET is not so much. He gave me the words

472
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to say in Anunnaki, which is ancient Sumerian and all these grid lines, the sigils and symbols

473
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and sacred geometry. Guess what? Something else came. I was with an actress, I can't

474
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say who, in my backyard in Hollywood and it's like, holy, wow, okay, you're not a ghost,

475
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you're not an angel, you're not a demon, you're not an elf, you're otherworldly. And it was

476
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really cool. So we did it again with a group. I don't remember if there were six or eight

477
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of us, dear friends and all mediums, all gifted mediums, all top of the line. And we did this

478
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,480
thing, we had the words and the sounds that he gave us, the toning that he gave us and

479
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,560
these sigils and symbols all drawn out. All of a sudden, each one of them took on a different,

480
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literally like a body movement or a sound or a toning or an octave thing. And then one

481
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:31,160
started channeling and we're moving. It was the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life.

482
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And then one starts doing that channeling, like when you see people who, hello, loved

483
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ones, was doing that. And then this big thing laid its big arm across my dining room table.

484
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It's like, Oh yeah, they're there. Wow. I couldn't imagine that. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

485
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But they still don't seem to come to the same. If I'm lifting the veil to do a seance, they

486
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don't, it must be different dimensions. It must be different dimensions. They don't,

487
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:07,880
they don't cross. I don't know what that is. Yeah. Wow. It must be something on their end.

488
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:14,840
Yeah. Well, maybe if we're tapping into whatever to get into the ghosty world or the, you know,

489
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,480
the everything else realm and ET's maybe are on a higher vibration, lower vibration, just

490
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different vibration. I don't have an answer. I love it. I see it's so fascinating. It's

491
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something that I could talk about all day long every day. I mean, just the theories

492
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,080
that are out there that you can totally contemplate on and see that, yes, you know what, these

493
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,040
actually seem plausible. It's just amazing how many that, you know, there are like, I

494
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mean, not with the ET stuff, but just in general about the paranormal. And I mean, even with

495
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,680
the ET stuff, like it kind of scares me almost in a way. Like it kind of does, like I'm okay

496
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,080
with the ghosts and spirits and stuff, but, you know, I don't know about reaching out

497
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,840
too much to UFOs and ET's yet. You know what I mean? I'm not quite there. I'm kind of there

498
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,960
with you. That's why I haven't gone, gotten real big into that world. I know I, I've studied

499
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religion and philosophy and cosmologies for so long. Give me an Egyptian spirit. Give

500
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,360
me a Greek spirit. Give me a demonic, give me a this, give me that. I know how to talk

501
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:19,400
to you. ET? Ah, right. They don't have to follow our rules. What? I don't know. Exactly.

502
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,800
That's exactly how I feel. I'm like, I don't even know what, what you would expect. I mean,

503
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I give these people from SETI5 that go out and have these experiences that they film.

504
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,680
I'm like, I give you guys a lot of credit because seeing one of those ships that they

505
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,800
caught that were right in like literally 400, 500 yards in front of them that they have

506
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,880
a picture of that manifested out of nowhere. I'm like, I would be scared. That ship was

507
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:45,880
huge and that could fit all of us. I can't put down the slowest one and make it, but

508
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,080
you know what I mean? It's taken all of us. So that's kind of the thing.

509
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,880
It's just, it's just really these guys that come out about that. I mean, you know, back

510
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:58,640
in the day they were risking their lives to come out and say what they've seen and what

511
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:04,040
they've done. But to me, if it's not real, why would you bother risking your life about

512
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:11,800
it? Yeah. You know what I mean? It doesn't make sense. If there's something there and

513
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:17,760
you're sworn to secrecy over it, then you're obviously, you've taken that oath from whoever

514
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:24,520
it was, whether it was the military or whatever, that sworn you to secrecy over it. So you're

515
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:31,360
really risking yours and probably your family's life by actually coming out. So for them to

516
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actually do that, there has to be something in it.

517
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:41,160
Patty, I wanted to not switch it for a sec, but I wanted to actually ask you if you could

518
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,400
talk a little bit about more about your classes this time and also about your podcast, The

519
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,560
Witching Hour with Patty Negri. Yeah. And a new one to announce. Yes. My school,

520
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:59,560
it's called UniversityMagicus.com, magic with a K, of course, M-A-G-I-C-K-U-S, magic with

521
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,460
a K for everybody who doesn't know. Magic with a C, M-A-G-I-C means you do card tricks

522
00:45:04,460 --> 00:45:09,520
and you pull a rabbit out of a hat. Magic with a K means you move energy and get into

523
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:15,200
other more spiritual realms. So UniversityMagicus, we call it a real life Hogwarts because we

524
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:21,800
want it approachable for everybody. I have 25 teachers now and everything from witchy

525
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,400
people, new age people, reiki masters, astrologers, Catholic priests, Bishop Long teaches for

526
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,520
us, Father Sebastian vampirism, we have Don Webb teaching vampirism, Richard Lael teaches

527
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:39,320
Satanism, he's the sweetest Satanist you ever met, just bringing in crypto teachers, all

528
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:45,400
things very left of center. We don't tell you anything is this is a fact, this is somebody's

529
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,800
version, you figure out your truth, like I think a mystery school should be. You make

530
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:57,200
your own conclusions. I either teach witchy stuff like spell casting, animal familiars,

531
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,800
pagan wheel of the year, but I mostly teach mediumship development, psychic development,

532
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:07,560
psychic protection. We have a paranormal investigator, Stefan Brigati, teaches psychic protection.

533
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:13,000
We have a lot of Nordic stuff, Kedric Olsen teaches both paranormal stuff and going into

534
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:18,360
the Nordic forums. So it's great and what's really great, if we have about 10 classes

535
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:25,240
a week, they're affordable. No one can not afford to, I mean almost no one. If you just

536
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:29,480
buy one class it's like $25, but if you go, oh I like this, you can come regularly, they

537
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,840
literally average like $10 a class. Like $10 a month to get you one class, $20 gets you

538
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,960
two class. So we're live zoomed just like this, you know, little talking heads, small

539
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,520
intimate group. And for the people who can't come since we are international, like if I'm

540
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:50,760
teaching a 6pm class on the west coast, it's 9pm on the east coast, but all my UK friends

541
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:57,640
it's 2am and they fall asleep during class, so they get it on video the next day. So that's

542
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,360
about the school. So I'm just really proud because that is my big, my whole gig is about

543
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:08,600
not being on TV and not just talking to dead people. It's about empowering. Humans, we

544
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:14,520
are such amazing beings and we tend to give away our power a lot to other people, to limiting

545
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,400
belief systems, to fear. And it's about grabbing it back. So that's what the school does.

546
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:26,760
And the same thing, my Witching Hour podcast is my guest. I have amazing guests, the best in the

547
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:34,200
field. Again, very much a witchy bent to most or getting into paranormal too. But so it's

548
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:39,640
entertaining and it's educational, whether it's beauty magic or home magic or this magic or that

549
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:47,480
magic. And much more for fun through Halloween, as long as my Witching Hour, which is available

550
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:53,080
everywhere, all formats and now also on my YouTube and now also now that I've got out of an exclusive

551
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:59,480
contract on Paraflex. But as of this week, we're going live with my new one, which is for fun,

552
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:05,640
the Witches Movie Coven. If you like movies and you like witch movies, I am with two experts. I'm

553
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:13,080
with Heather Green and Jason Manke. She wrote the book on witches in movies from the 1800s when

554
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:18,200
movies were invented, everything how witches and witching and paranormal has been made in books.

555
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,560
And Jason also is so the three of us cackle and get together and grab your popcorn. And we're

556
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:29,400
going to talk about everything from Wizard of Oz to practical magic to the craft to TV. And it's

557
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,360
just fun. And it's it's live starting this Wednesday. Last week, we did a taped version

558
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:40,920
where people can like you guys call in and talk to us. So that's starting out on YouTube, my page,

559
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,320
and we'll see where I haven't talked to Natalie yet, maybe on Paraflex, but the Witches Movie

560
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:50,840
Coven. So just then that one's for fun. Plus, you know, what's good and bad how they represent

561
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,800
the craft. Awesome. Oh, man, I'm excited. Great. Yeah, that's gonna be a great doll. That's gonna

562
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,440
be a great series for sure. 100%. I got to definitely tune in for that. I want to ask you

563
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:06,040
about a recent podcast one. It was the one that you had Katrina Weidman on about the Portals to

564
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,800
Hell show and how you guys were talking about that whole experience. Would you like to enlighten a

565
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,640
little bit on that episode and on the experience? I don't want to because if I do, I'm going to tell

566
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:19,160
all of it. So I'll let you do it so people can still watch. Yeah, no, that was really, that was

567
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really fun. And I almost had to cut everything that I teach. I almost caught myself on that.

568
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,840
Again, I didn't know where I was going. I never do. And I was thrilled to be working with them

569
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,920
because that's a show I hadn't worked yet. I was in Dallas at the time doing an educational weekend.

570
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So they picked me up from Dallas and I knew I was flying to Memphis, but that's all I knew.

571
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I didn't know where I was, you know, they drive you around and they put you in a building. You

572
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:48,360
don't know where it is. And it was, I knew it was a bar. That's all I knew. And Jack was really

573
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:54,200
great and Katrina was really great. And I must say the producers, before you even walk in, and I'm

574
00:49:54,200 --> 00:50:00,440
sort of used to this, but not to their extent, they go, now, even if you're 100% right on,

575
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:06,520
you are naming names telling down to the color of their underpants, Katrina and Jack will just look

576
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,960
at you and go, okay, okay. They won't lead you in like you wobbles right or whatever. I mean,

577
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:17,000
and that's kind of like that, but like Katrina could be a professional poker player if she wanted,

578
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,640
both of them could. And, but I'm like, okay, that's fine. I'm not used to that. I'm not,

579
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:29,000
no one has to lead me into something. But, but when we were there, the weirdest thing happened to me.

580
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:35,400
And it was literally, I just like, I went kind of like this, and Katrina and they're like, what

581
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:41,240
happened? What, what, what? And my stupid left brain that I teach people, got that go, let that

582
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:45,160
go. That's just going to shut you down. Got in the way going, you can't tell them that. That's the

583
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:50,120
dumbest thing I ever heard. And I almost threw it away. I kind of go, oh, well, this kind of bird

584
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:57,400
just flew by me, the spirit bird in. And I almost, and luckily I did say it, I got past myself a

585
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:03,160
little bit, little, be known to me, the whole episode sort of really was about this, this woman,

586
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:08,600
or part of it, this woman's son had passed and this bird was coming into the bar all the time.

587
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:14,520
And then some probably ghost spirit woman had come in and given her a bird necklace. And had I not

588
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:20,200
been brave enough to just go get out of my own damn way and not said anything, I could have just said,

589
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:25,320
oh, something just flew by. But I went, no, a bird, a bird. I know that's weird. You know,

590
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,680
at least I didn't say, I know that's weird, but I almost busted myself. So yeah, that was wild.

591
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:35,160
I, I actually, the funny part about that was when I watched it and I saw that part, I did see you

592
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,160
hesitate at first, but I'm like, no, no, we're going to find out. We're going to find out. So to

593
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,880
hear that come out of your mouth and say that you almost listened to what you teach not to that's

594
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:49,000
so, you know, I think that's just a great thing in itself, not because it happened in such a

595
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000
vulnerable thing to happen in that situation. But I think it's great because it shows your students

596
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,160
and everybody also that like, listen, even I kind of may make a mistake like that in a certain

597
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:03,000
situation. So please, it's okay to do that. But I saw that part and I'm so happy to comment on that.

598
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:11,160
Yeah. And, and it, it forever will. We're human. We are going to screw up always, always. We are

599
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:16,120
not going to rise to the occasion a million times. We are not going to make our best choices all the

600
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:21,320
time. We have to make that okay. You know, until we are someone almighty God or something. No.

601
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,520
And, and if we ever think the second, I think I know everything or the second I think I've got

602
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:31,560
it all, you know, throw me off a cliff. That's when you start getting in trouble. No, we are forever

603
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:38,600
learning. We are forever developing. We are forever growing and we have to. Oh, look at this. We have

604
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:43,560
a Wayne Precha. Hi everyone. I'm an aspiring paranormal investigator. Well, hey, very nice to

605
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,640
meet you. Glad you're tuning in. Um, we were just actually talking about, I hope you saw it. I'm not

606
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,120
sure if you did or not, but Patty, please shout out your classes because this may be able to help

607
00:52:52,120 --> 00:53:01,640
him get started. Yes. Universitymagicus.com university regular spelling m-a-g-i-c-k-u-s.com.

608
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:07,320
From there, we have a Patreon again that's starting at $10 a month. Universitymagicus.com. I posted it

609
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:13,720
on all my social media, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, everything. Um, just make sure it's the

610
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:19,800
real me. I will never contact you until you need a reading and ask for money. Never. Just saying. I've

611
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:26,440
got, I've got that thing going on that so many people do now. I tell you, you know, like, yeah,

612
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,480
I've seen something. Get your own life. Right. Yeah. I've seen something the other week you put on

613
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:39,160
Instagram and you put on Facebook about, uh, people were putting on that they were patty neggry,

614
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,800
but they were putting two eyes at the end and stuff like that. And they were, they were asking

615
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:51,560
for money for that. And you actually put a post on saying, this isn't me. Yeah. I had to do that

616
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:58,280
many times. What kills me is like, again, I don't, it's not even in my ethical. I don't tell anybody

617
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,160
that somebody can come to me. I don't contact them. I don't use your techniques. I don't say,

618
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:09,640
but when somebody like somebody who might like, I just sent you $600. I'm like, I have nothing that

619
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:14,920
costs $600. And you did not send me $600. You probably sent some weird guy who doesn't have a

620
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,200
psychic bone in his body sitting there in his tidy whiteys and his base mother's basement, $600. But

621
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:25,000
you don't, not me. I will never ask, but the thing that got me, I was doing a thing with my,

622
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,760
my dear friend, Patty Stanger, we were at the Winchester mystery. She's the billionaire matchmaker.

623
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:37,000
Oh my God. She's great. Um, on Bravo forever. So we were doing a thing at the Winchester mystery

624
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:42,120
house and this beautiful little 13 year old girl was with us and she was just, her eyes were opening

625
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:47,080
up. You could tell she's really gifted. She was a blossoming paranormal investigator. I'm somebody

626
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:53,320
gave her a K two meter. Oh, that's cool. A little 13 year old girl, one of those fake people contacted

627
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:59,640
her cause they probably saw it online and got $130. So, you know, out of a 13 year old girl,

628
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:05,080
that's just, that's how low do you go? Somebody you know, as a child, you know, as a kid,

629
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:12,200
$130 is a lot to anybody. It's a really lot to a 13 year old kid. Yeah. And, ah, yeah.

630
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:20,360
That is so sad. Yeah. The thing is, the thing as well is we, we can all sort of help in that as

631
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:26,200
well because you know, obviously we're, we're all like friends on Facebook and Instagram and stuff

632
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:31,960
with Patty. So if we see these posts going on, we can always post, look, this isn't Patty.

633
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,960
Yeah. Now that I know that someone's doing that, cause I didn't know you were going through that

634
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,920
Patty. If I knew that, I keep my eyes out. So now I'll definitely, but every time I seen that

635
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:49,160
party had always been on before me saying, this isn't me. I will never DM you unless the only

636
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,880
person I would, I might DM one of you answering you and would not anybody I don't. And I never

637
00:55:53,880 --> 00:56:00,440
tell them I need to read. I don't, I just don't. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta be careful. We'll put a post

638
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,680
on and say it's not you. Thank you. And report just people have to report these people.

639
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,800
Anyway, but anyway, thank you. That's not a good place to end. No, no, no, no worries. No worries.

640
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,560
Listen, one more time though, please shout out your school for everyone because I want people

641
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,080
to really check it out. I've been actually checking it out myself. And your YouTube and any other

642
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:25,480
things. Yes. I would love to see you in class. Any of you guys, again, all levels from somebody

643
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:30,120
who wants to be aspiring to the biggest pros. And then some of the biggest pros we go, will you teach

644
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:39,720
for us too? We're bringing in. So yeah, university magic us.com. M A G I C K U S.com. We have sent

645
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:45,240
out event rights and this all my social media, which is Patty Negri psychic medium. It actually

646
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:49,880
does have a blue check on Facebook. It doesn't on Instagram for some reason. Instagram is Patty.negri

647
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:57,080
Twitter, Patty Negri, Patty Negri.com is where you can get to all the right everything, including my

648
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:04,040
YouTube page. And my web, my podcast with the witching hour. And again, I give lots of free

649
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,360
information all the time. Videos. You want to see my money? So there's a video on it. You want to

650
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:13,640
see this? There's a video, but my home base, you can get to everything legitimately is from patty

651
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:19,000
negri.com. One last thing I wanted to say was I've actually been watching the lessons that you've

652
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:24,120
been giving on YouTube and stuff, the money lessons, the candle lessons, the everything. I mean,

653
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,440
it's been absolutely awesome. And me and John, I know you've talked to John, our old host that

654
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,960
was on here. Um, me and him are doing like, uh, like we're going to do that lemon, um, protection

655
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,200
spell. Yes. I tell you, he's been talking to me about it nonstop. He's like, I can't wait to do

656
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,040
it. I'm thinking about doing it live and all this stuff. And I'm like, well, you know, I might have

657
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,760
to try it with you then, because you know, it's always a good thing to have the, you know,

658
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:50,360
protection for. So I really appreciate you doing that. So you're welcome. That is so simple.

659
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,000
The lemon on crossing spell. Um, it gets rid of negative cause so many people think they're

660
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,200
cursed. Honestly, 99% of curses aren't real. We create them them myself. You know, it's like,

661
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:05,720
Oh, I think I'm cursed. And then we start creating self-fulfilling prophecy, but it gets rid of bad

662
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:11,800
luck, negativity, selfish, anything anybody sends to you purposely or not. It costs you one lemon

663
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,280
and a plate of salt. That's it. Sour spell to sour fruit. You must go. It's old. It's not, I

664
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:22,440
didn't invent it. My version of it's old fashioned Southern root magic folk magic. So powerful.

665
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,480
Cool. No, I can't wait to try it because I'm really interested in it, you know, because I,

666
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,360
just in case as an investigator, if you ever, you know, have an attachment or anything,

667
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:36,280
it's good to have. So yes, yes. Georgia and, and I'm sorry, I can't say your last name,

668
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:41,640
my friend, but George, he said, witching hours on when? Well, it's on all the time since it's

669
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:46,760
streaming. It's we drop on Monday. So I'll have a new one coming out tomorrow. But if you go to

670
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:53,160
audible pod, bean, apple, the witching hour with Patty Negri, there is other witching hours out

671
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:59,560
there since it's a great word, which are with Patty Negri or Google Patty Negri, witching hour,

672
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,920
you can get it. It's like on 20 different platforms. Now I'm also getting it video on my

673
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:10,040
YouTube and I'm just doing it by season on Paraflex. But if you Google witching hour,

674
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,360
Patty Negri, if you like pod bean, go there. If you like apple, go there. If you like audible,

675
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:19,400
go there. If you like Spotify, go there. It's everywhere. Thank you so much for sharing that.

676
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:25,560
Well, I just want to say thank you so much for coming. I mean, that's always, always,

677
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,200
I'm proud of you. You guys are great. Keep up the good work. One more question before you go.

678
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Will you come on again sometime? Of course. Oh yeah. After Halloween season though,

679
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,840
after Halloween season. Oh, of course. Of course. Because I won't be speaking in full sentences,

680
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:51,720
there are this next, next month and a half. See, it's already happening. Yeah. There you go. Well,

681
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:57,640
hey, thank you so much. Hi, Sarah. Thank you for stopping by. Thank you everybody. Thanks guys.

682
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,080
Hey, have a good day. We have a couple minutes backstage.

683
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,600
Real fast. I'm supposed to go into my podcast, but yes, I will.

684
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:12,760
I will. We'll actually message you. No worries. Okay. But okay. Call me. Talk to me later. We will.

685
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,560
Bye guys. Thank you. Love you. Bye. Bye.

686
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,280
Wow guys. Such an awesome episode, man. I'm so happy that I was just like, you know what?

687
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,880
I'm going to tell them I have something that came up real quick and I'll go run in there right now

688
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,440
as we get off. Work had to wait. I'm sorry. Work had to wait. This was actually good. And,

689
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,080
you know, are you going back nine? Yeah. Cause you know, I just, I mean, today, like I said,

690
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,080
it wasn't supposed to be my first day here. So I want to get back there. I'm just actually

691
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,000
covering for someone because they came out, but everyone who's watching, thank you so much for

692
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:48,280
watching. This is going to be up on our Facebook, on our YouTube, all over the place. So please join

693
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,600
us guys below Raymond or Steve. Oh, thank you so much guys for joining Steve. Oh, thank you for

694
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,840
sharing that too with us and Raymond always good seeing you. My brother. I'll be talking to you in

695
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:03,960
a little bit as well. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. And I tell you, obviously one of our, one of our

696
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:12,600
favorite guests for the show. She is, uh, I always, you know, talks to us away from, away from talking

697
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:19,160
with the source and stuff like that. So, you know, really, really down to earth person. And obviously

698
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I can say she'll be on again. So 100%. So before we go, we're going to show a couple of commercials

699
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,440
and we guys will talk to you soon. So thank you guys so much for joining us. This has been another

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episode of talking with the source. See you later.

