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Hey, what's going on everybody? This is AJ Capasso

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here from Talking with the Source. I'm here with

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my beautiful girlfriend, Tammy. Tammy, how are

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you today? Beautiful. Awesome. Awesome. Today,

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.com. But today, Tammy, we have someone absolutely

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awesome that we had on before that you didn't

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get to see because you weren't on the show yet.

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And I'm super excited to have you a part of it

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because Tony has some absolutely amazing evidence

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that has been on multiple TV shows. from around

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the world. He is from the UK. His name is Tony

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Ferguson. I'm gonna bring up the picture right

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here real quick before I bring him forward. This

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is my buddy Tony Ferguson. He's from the UK.

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He's a paranormal researcher and also he just

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does this work because he loves it and also he

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advocates for locations. so that they don't lose

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them over in the UK like we have lost so many

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over here so it's it's absolutely amazing but

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let me bring my buddy forward this is Tony Ferguson

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everybody Tony what's up my brother i can't hear

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you can you hear me i can hear you now yeah i

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can hear you it went quiet for a second yeah

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yeah i heard you all right cool all right my

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brother So listen, I want to get right down to

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the nitty and gritty right for our viewers I

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got a video that I want to put up that we showed

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I believe it was last time too But this this

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video still has me in all if I can find it right

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here. Let me bring it up Um, where is it? Yeah,

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this one right here. I believe it is I believe

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it's this one it was really heavy down here bear

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in mind we're above them on top of the actual

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balcony something indeed watch closely as Tony's

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camera captures something bizarre a white figure

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moving across the room though no one sees it

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at the time Tony believes he heard it When the

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actual entity walks across the screen you get

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this horrific screech I can't even describe what

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it sounds like but I heard it when we were in

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there and it made my ears literally hurt Yeah

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crazy absolutely crazy capture So yeah, I'll

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go into a little bit about it. They were doing

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a seance below. It was a paranormal event that

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we turned up to And I don't participate in seances.

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I always like to observe, see what's going on.

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And the room felt horrible. I'm not going to

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lie. It just felt like there was some really

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heavy in there, as I described on the show and

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stuff. And as I just said, it was the calm before

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the storm. Something's going to happen. Adam

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and the group drop to the ground. And then that

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apparition just appeared just after in a space

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of about a minute and a half. So it was almost

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like a build up to a whole sort of Crazy event

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we end dragging the guy out of the circle out

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of the room because he felt like his body was

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being electrocuted so So yeah, it wasn't it was

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one of those things I always say things don't

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just appear out of nowhere and walk off. Do you

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see what I mean? It's like it's one of those

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that just sort of paid as you saw Almost teleported

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and then just you sort of small little figure

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and it made her weird screeching sounds which

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yeah Yeah, I I describe it so like you ever seen

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the film alien versus predator Dude, I was just

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gonna say it looked like an alien to be honest.

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A lot of people have said that a lot of people

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have said that like it looks like a gray or something

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So it's um, it's one of those I always leave

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leave out there You decide what you think it

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is All I know is that it appeared out of there

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in front of the public and everyone in that circle

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felt very You know dread dreaded inside. They

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said they just felt like I don't know any of

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them people that that was the members of the

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public And there was skeptics, non -believers

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in that circle. And when they saw that after

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what they felt, it sort of added up to what was

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going on around us. So it pays to have locked

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off cameras when you're doing these things. See,

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I love that. When you bring people in that are

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skeptics or like people that are just new to

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this and all of a sudden they have an experience

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like that and you capture it on camera. I mean,

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dude, that thing looks like an alien. No joke.

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It really does. When you look down at it like

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the way that it captures at a certain point.

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Kind of has like the alien type figure to it.

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So it would freak me out if I saw that afterwards

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in that or in that building or in that location

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And had that happen. I would have been freaked

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out. How did you feel? Um, it was like I described

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the sound that I heard the rest of them didn't

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hear it But i'm quite sensitive to the ears so

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I can call out the somebody voices This sounded

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different to me. This sounded unworldly and I

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actually held my ears when it happened. Um, it

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was that almost like a an unbearable sound in

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your ear that you can the frequency was so different

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to what I normally hear Yeah, how um have you

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went back into this place? I filmed there with

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sky tv and I filmed the last year of halloween

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um for like a halloween special with the news

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the news there and we were locked in with some

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skeptics and a non -believer who was a reporter

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and um She she absolutely cracked herself for

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some of the things we caught in the prison because

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it's actually a prison That was the chapel of

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the prison. Um We again she was hearing disembodied

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voice starts calling out and we've called it

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on camera and um, yeah Basically everyone we've

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gone there with we've had some sort of experience

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that we can't explain Wow. All right guys. Hold

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on one sec. I gotta play this one more time Tony

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Let me play it one more time for everybody. Yeah,

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certainly something indeed watch closely as Tony's

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camera captures something bizarre a white figure

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moving across the room though no one sees it

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at the time Tony believes he heard it when the

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actual entity walks across the screen he gets

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horrific screech I can't even describe what it

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sounds like, but I heard it when we were in there,

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and it made my ears literally hurt. God, man.

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It definitely looks like it's an alien. Yeah,

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I've had a mixed bag with the paranormal community.

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A lot of people say it looks like a child, but

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I'm like, well, his eyes are massive and his

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head's massive. It looks like it's got a weird

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shaped head. And yeah, it's just been a mixed

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bag of what people think it is. I mean, for me,

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hearing that sound and being in there, I mean,

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it was coming towards us. We were on the balcony,

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and I just felt that presence come towards us

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when it happened. And that's why I said it was

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the calm before the storm. It was almost someone

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was warning me that something here is not good.

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And I always had that intuition, so. Absolutely,

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absolutely. Have there been other experiences

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similar to that, at that location? People have

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always had experiences there in that area people

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say they feel uncomfortable I mean, it's like

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I always say a lot of these things that happen

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a lot of people don't document on camera So it's

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personal experiences, you know that a lot of

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people say they felt heavy in there and stuff

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But there could be just be things that happen

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in the people are not realizing around them which

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is which is why we say have a lot of camera with

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you at all times, you know document these things

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because In that particular area a lot of people

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say that you know, it just doesn't feel nice

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even though it's a chapel area um and the whole

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prison doesn't feel good to be fair but then

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most prisons don't because it holds a lot of

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trauma and negativity so so yeah it's definitely

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one of those that are interesting absolutely

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absolutely man Well, dude, I tell you what you

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have some awesome evidence you sent over to us

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I want to keep going here because there's a lot

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that I want to show people so Let's go on to

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the next video real quick. I'll let you explain

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it right afterwards But let me show it and we'll

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see what's up. So it's about a two minute clip.

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So here we go This is a quick capture of basically

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a mist that just literally comes out of nowhere.

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It shoots really fast Towards the left -hand

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side and it just seems to stop and hover in front

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of the camera Now we actually saw this to the

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naked eye and wasn't aware that we caught it

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on camera at the time. It just looked like a

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big mass, just sort of like horror and then just

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disappears. So it's a really bizarre capture

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and the fact that we both saw it at the same

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time to the naked eye is amazing. So I thought

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I would just share it with you. Leave a comment

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below and let me know what you think. It's a

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really weird one because it's coming out with

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a lot of force and it just seems to sort of shape

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shift and become this massive mass. Really weird

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with capture, but there's a full video to come

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a few more captures that were caught in there

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really really Haunted cave a lot going on in

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there a hell of a lot We're glad to get out of

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there, but thanks for watching Let us know what

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you think in the comment section and I'll speak

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to you all soon. Take care guys. Bye Oh Hello

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that appeared right in front the camera Toad.

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Woah. I love it. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's

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almost great. It's just like, you know, I love

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it. It makes it sound great, brother. But tell

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me, dude, where was that at? What was it like

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for you there? Everything talked to us. Yeah,

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so that was a con glaze cabin. It was a cave.

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They used to have smugglers of children working

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down that we caught a few children's voices down

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there as well. Before we caught that again, there's

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no reason to be hearing children down there because

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it's a locked off cave and we had access to ourselves.

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That was just basically us just walking around.

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Again, it was quite warm in there. I was wearing

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sort of summer clothes because it was quite humid.

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There was no I always look for breaths and stuff

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like it could be a breath that's doing that.

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But obviously, Bed was behind me. I was in front

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this seemed to come from the side and then stop

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change direction and hover You know, I tried

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to recreate that I was there I couldn't so and

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I couldn't even make a breath when I was there

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because it was quite warm in there because it

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was summertime when we went in there so it's

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one of those that With all the disembodied voices

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we caught in there some saying get out from a

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male standard and Also some children's voices.

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It was just one of those that just sort of added

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to the night I guess but yeah it is what it is

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i mean people can decide what they want for themselves

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and we saw that to the eye um didn't realize

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it came out on camera but luckily it did nice

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amazing catch it really is yeah so what we're

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going to do to me i'm going to show one more

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time for everybody so they can get another view

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at it so check this out it happened real quick

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and then uh basically he goes back and he does

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it slow mo so check this out guys This is a quick

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capture of basically a mist that just literally

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comes out of nowhere. It shoots really fast towards

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the left -hand side and it just seems to stop

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and then hover in front of the camera. Now we

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actually saw this to the naked eye and wasn't

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aware that we caught it on camera at the time.

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It just looked like a big mass, just sort of

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like hovering and then just disappears. So it's

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a really bizarre capture and the fact that we

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both saw it at the same time to the naked eye

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is amazing. So I thought I would just share it

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with you. Leave a comment below and let me know

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what you think. It's a really weird one because

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it's coming up with a lot of force and it just

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seems to sort of shape shift and becomes this

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massive mass. Really weird, weird capture but

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there's a full video to come with a few more

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captures that were caught in there. Really, really

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haunted cave. A lot going on in there. A hell

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of a lot. We're glad to get out of there but

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thanks for watching. Let us know what you think

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in the comment section and I'll speak to you

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all soon. Take care guys. Bye! what's that oh

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hello that appeared right in front of the camera

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oh hello so yeah man that was absolutely awesome

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man that that capture right there now tell me

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were you feeling something before you saw that

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or was it just like you just saw like you said

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and then that was you know basically you just

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thought maybe it might have had a breath at first

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but tell me do you feel anything in that area

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yeah it's one of the reasons why we Mainly sort

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of we're in that area. We kept on hearing children's

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voices. Uh, we call one saying hello Like a very

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young child going Hello, um a couple of times

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we're in there and we call that on camera So

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we spent a bit of time in around that area whether

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that was a child I don't know sort of making

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itself sort of, you know appear to us in some

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sort of form Um, it didn't feel threatening.

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Um, so that was a good thing But you know, um

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all the way around you just felt like there was

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someone trying to get her attention. So So yeah,

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it wasn't one of the worst places we've been

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to, but there were certainly a lot of things

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going on that we couldn't explain and the fact

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that we were sort of underground as well. It's

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like an underground cavern. You've got no external

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voices from outside or things that can interfere.

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We left there with so many things on camera that

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we couldn't explain. Finding children's voices

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down in a cavern or a cave, that's beyond me.

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Unfortunately, in the UK, it was very well known

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with a lot of the sort of cave systems and they

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got them to work down there. And I found quite

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a lot of caves that we have done with experiment

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with a parapsychologist that walkie hole caves.

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And we were locked down with him, just us. And

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we asked the question, is there any reason to

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be hearing any external voices? You're that far

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on the ground, et cetera. And he said, no. And

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we caught the same with him. Kids' voices, disembodied

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voices saying, get out. um a male voice a couple

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of times down there so a lot of things a lot

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of things have happened in these caves especially

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the children where obviously in history they

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don't talk about it wow see i never knew that

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i never knew that they had the kids working down

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on the caves over there mines caves anything

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that the kids did all the work and unfortunately

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a lot of those that did die um it wasn't reported

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or it was kept hush hush kind of thing so that

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you know they didn't shut them down kind of thing

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so absolutely well I tell you what man that is

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an absolutely amazing capture um this next capture

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that you got was we're gonna talk a little bit

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about it for a second because I know this one

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is when I believe it's the jail cell door it

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closes when you guys aren't around yeah absolutely

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awesome capture I'm gonna show right now but

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um you want to talk about it after you want to

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talk about it before what would you prefer it's

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up to you I'll go for it quickly so that people

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can sort of see what they're looking for So basically

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we left a locked off camera We went to this for

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etc and they had a prison room and they kept

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on saying that this door kept on shutting its

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own They couldn't you know find an external source

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for it So I said if you ever left a locked off

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camera there, you know And just just see what

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happens because if it keeps happening regularly,

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it could be something that doesn't like the door

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being open So I did a little experiment with

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a fellow investigator Paul to sell on these doggles

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with us at the time in the summer. So it was

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a nice calm day. We left the locked off camera

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there, pulled the whole cell door right back

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to the wall, tested it just to see if it sort

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of could move on its own or whatever, but it

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was solid to the back wall. There's also a very

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thin wooden door at the back behind it. We should

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look out for that because again, if the wind

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was blowing this way, it would be shutting the

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cell door. which again it was on the TV show

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recently and a parapsychologist did point that

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out that you know if it was something to do with

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that then you know it would be wind coming from

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that direction goes that way so we tried to sort

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of look for different explanations to what could

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cause it but one of those that I just don't think

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whoever's there likes a door being open Paul's

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dog Sam actually led us to the door because he

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had to bang because we were outside at the time

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he came running to the door so again Dogs are

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quite sensitive. It was quite a what I call a

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Capture again. It's it's it's natural, you know,

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it's one of those that we've just gone to it

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all the door shut didn't know until when we look

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back on the footage how it closed and We know

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sorry you guys are watching to watch now That's

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awesome. All right, let me bring it forward Is

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an experienced paranormal investigator and he's

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also a medium. Having watched some of his footage,

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seen the stuff that he captures on camera, I

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think he's brilliant. When I know that he's referred

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to as the ghost whisperer, immediately that brings

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up a perception of somebody that is experienced

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at investigating, but also somebody who very

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much takes the spiritual approach to investigation

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rather than the scientific side. Tony has got

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a history there of investigating the paranormal.

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and documenting this all on video. He's got a

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YouTube channel, lots of different videos on

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there, and clips that are sometimes quite interesting.

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Well, I've been lucky enough to be a paranormal

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investigator and pretty much go around all the

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most haunted locations in the UK. Before Gilgiger,

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I was with a fellow investigator called Paul

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Cecile, and he had his company by his little

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dog, Sam, and a lot of reports are of poltergeist

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activity within the building. And I thought to

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myself then, why has nobody ever put a locked

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off camera on this door? We went off and basically

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started investigating another part of the actual

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location. Believe it or not, the dog Sam actually

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heard the bang. He came running towards the door.

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We followed him, came back to find the door shut.

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Looking back on the footage, the wooden door

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on the back wasn't moving. The steel door was

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very heavy. I believe there's a prison guard

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that walks in and out that corridor that doesn't

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like that door being open. It was almost like

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a caretaker walking by thinking that door should

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be open and closing it. A prison room would be

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shut, so why is it open? And they've shut it.

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It was just a case of you were just seeing a

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reenactment of what they would do in their time.

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I always say leave locked off cameras everywhere

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because sometimes it's not when it's always around

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you, it's when you're not around it happens.

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The only logical explanation is that it was kind

00:21:52.380 --> 00:21:55.299
of unhinged, unbalanced and it, you know, naturally

00:21:55.299 --> 00:21:57.900
closed on its own. But the two investigators

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walk away having propped it open and that camera's

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locked off. There was no one there. You couldn't

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see any wires, cables and the door closes by

00:22:06.500 --> 00:22:09.220
itself. I believe that it could be a spirit.

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When I watched that footage for the first time,

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I was... We're genuinely impressed by it. We've

00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:16.920
got a static camera. We've got enough movement

00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:19.160
of the two investigators to show that there was

00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:21.740
nobody behind that door that could have caused

00:22:21.740 --> 00:22:28.099
it to move. So very impressed. So yeah. Well,

00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:30.420
that's Dr. Keenan O 'Keefe, who actually was

00:22:30.420 --> 00:22:32.519
on our show. He's a good friend of ours. And

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I tell you, man, he's a great parapsychologist.

00:22:35.380 --> 00:22:37.640
So to hear him, you know, actually get to comment

00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:39.579
on a lot of your stuff, which I've got to see.

00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:41.960
It's been really awesome to see him do that.

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I'd love to get both of you on the show one day.

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That would be absolutely awesome. I'm one of

00:22:47.339 --> 00:22:49.279
those. I love to talk about anything paranormal,

00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:51.619
whether it's on the sort of skeptic side or the

00:22:51.619 --> 00:22:53.740
open side. I mean, I've been lucky enough to

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work with a few parapsychologists doing this.

00:22:56.460 --> 00:22:58.119
So yeah, it's always interesting to hear different

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theories and stuff. But yeah, the other thing

00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:02.640
people need to realize is what I always try and

00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:04.299
do on the camera is I always leave a time and

00:23:04.299 --> 00:23:07.339
date below it. Because again, For me it's it's

00:23:07.339 --> 00:23:09.140
important because then you guys can see that

00:23:09.140 --> 00:23:11.579
it's not been altered or um, you know, because

00:23:11.579 --> 00:23:14.039
a lot of people could easy do cgi Which is that

00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:16.000
thing that a lot of people like doing now? So

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I always like to leave a time and date on on

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the bottom of all my videos so that people can

00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:22.420
see You're watching it in real time in a sense

00:23:22.420 --> 00:23:23.980
because you can see the time you can see the

00:23:23.980 --> 00:23:26.759
date and for me It's just you know, just better

00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:29.440
that way. I guess as an investigator One thing

00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:31.480
that I can say to our viewers is that if you

00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:33.680
ever come across tony's, you know tony's stuff

00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:35.559
Which I would love for everyone to go and follow

00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:40.039
him and uh become a subscriber as well um because

00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:43.339
he does it in a fashion of it's live it's raw

00:23:43.339 --> 00:23:47.119
it's uncut type of of editing it's not like editing

00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:49.859
where someone's going in and editing little tiny

00:23:49.859 --> 00:23:52.220
pieces of stuff no if he's editing something

00:23:52.220 --> 00:23:55.140
it's just a replay to show you exactly what part

00:23:55.140 --> 00:23:57.859
he caught like we were just showing you stuff

00:23:57.859 --> 00:23:59.880
like that but it wasn't you know he doesn't go

00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:02.640
back everything is live it's raw it's just it's

00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:04.579
very you know to some people it may be boring

00:24:04.579 --> 00:24:07.059
because in the beginning they gotta wait a little

00:24:07.059 --> 00:24:08.960
bit to get to the action part you know what i

00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.779
mean so you know to some people may be like that

00:24:11.779 --> 00:24:15.039
boring sense but if you really love true true

00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.559
real evidence telling you tony's a person to

00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.500
follow because his stuff is absolutely amazing

00:24:20.500 --> 00:24:23.119
so tony thank you i mean so much for coming on

00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:24.779
again and showing us these clips we got a ton

00:24:24.779 --> 00:24:27.740
more to go through but uh so far man it's just

00:24:27.740 --> 00:24:29.900
been so awesome to get to talk to you again how

00:24:29.900 --> 00:24:32.039
is how's it been going like what's been going

00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.920
on in your life uh with the investigating everything

00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:36.640
with the buildings that you've been trying to

00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.420
save and stuff how how has that been working

00:24:38.420 --> 00:24:41.160
out so yeah so when i last spoke to you shet

00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:43.579
and mullet was looking to close down um i went

00:24:43.579 --> 00:24:47.339
to the media etc and spoke to them about the

00:24:47.339 --> 00:24:49.779
you know how how important is for the uk as well

00:24:49.779 --> 00:24:52.119
as the paranormal that's been saved which is

00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:55.240
brilliant um they've managed to sort of like

00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.000
I don't know how they've done it, but they have.

00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:58.680
So whatever way they've done it, it's good. I

00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.319
think enough people spoke about it and that's

00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:04.180
what's important. I took a little break over

00:25:04.180 --> 00:25:06.500
last year over Christmas due to moving and stuff.

00:25:07.420 --> 00:25:09.579
And yeah, and then basically got back into it

00:25:09.579 --> 00:25:13.059
and started investigating solidly again. And

00:25:13.059 --> 00:25:15.759
I did the media thing with the Sun News, which

00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.299
was at Shetland Mallet just after. Which it was

00:25:19.299 --> 00:25:22.859
a lady. It was a skeptic and also and funny enough

00:25:22.859 --> 00:25:24.500
the camera guy didn't believe in the paranormal

00:25:24.500 --> 00:25:27.559
he left Halfway through he was filming it for

00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.160
the Sun newspaper and stuff and he left and I

00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:31.720
ended up recording the whole thing because he

00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:34.740
saw a door open its own I didn't see it he did

00:25:34.740 --> 00:25:40.000
and it freaked him out he left So it's like yeah,

00:25:40.019 --> 00:25:42.660
it was one of those that's a weird one and since

00:25:42.660 --> 00:25:45.019
that I've done a few TV show interviews and stuff

00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.380
a few podcasts radio -wise, and location -wise,

00:25:49.420 --> 00:25:51.140
I've just been meeting people in the Paranormal

00:25:51.140 --> 00:25:53.400
this year, really, and sort of collabing with

00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:55.519
people that I think are genuine, and, you know,

00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:57.299
just sort of showing them a different approach

00:25:57.299 --> 00:25:59.619
to the Paranormal, and taking them to some good

00:25:59.619 --> 00:26:02.880
locations, and, yeah, it's been a really interesting

00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:06.539
year. Different, but interesting. Yeah. No, hey,

00:26:06.539 --> 00:26:08.279
I feel you, man. I completely feel you. That

00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:10.019
is awesome, man. I'm so happy for you, dude,

00:26:10.019 --> 00:26:12.160
because, you know, this type of evidence needs

00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:14.119
to get out more. It needs to be shown more to

00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.190
people. And that's the reason why I do this.

00:26:16.210 --> 00:26:18.190
I try to, you know, show people's evidence from

00:26:18.190 --> 00:26:19.710
around the world because, you know, there is

00:26:19.710 --> 00:26:22.029
something more to more than us and more than

00:26:22.029 --> 00:26:25.690
more to us and more than this. So, you know,

00:26:25.690 --> 00:26:28.029
I think it's very important. Yeah, 100 percent.

00:26:28.150 --> 00:26:32.329
I agree. So here we go. I'm going to show this

00:26:32.329 --> 00:26:34.329
clip. I'll end up stopping in between because

00:26:34.329 --> 00:26:36.730
it's like a 10 minute clip, but there's a certain

00:26:36.730 --> 00:26:38.349
part that I did want to show, so I'm going to

00:26:38.349 --> 00:26:40.150
let it play and we'll talk a little bit about

00:26:40.150 --> 00:26:48.890
the section. Can you move the beads please? Come

00:26:48.890 --> 00:26:50.390
towards the beads and move the beads please.

00:26:50.490 --> 00:27:05.029
Any children? That's all of her. That's me. If

00:27:05.029 --> 00:27:07.410
there's any children here, can you make a massive

00:27:07.410 --> 00:27:11.250
banging noise please? Can you bang to show us

00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:33.759
where you are? So. Right there, man. That was

00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.359
the part right there that I just was like, oh

00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.619
my god, you were standing right next to a dude.

00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.220
What did you think? What did you feel? Well,

00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.400
I actually heard because where we were at the

00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.200
time, I had someone walking down the stairs.

00:27:45.339 --> 00:27:47.079
Now, we were there in the daytime. It's actually

00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.440
like a man of farm. Uh it's like an old farmhouse

00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:53.380
and um I had someone walking downstairs. I sort

00:27:53.380 --> 00:27:55.579
of pointed upstairs like this walking above us.

00:27:56.209 --> 00:27:58.710
And as that happened, there's actually a weight

00:27:58.710 --> 00:28:01.130
holding that door. You can see it move across

00:28:01.130 --> 00:28:04.670
the floor. So I've been back with a team a couple

00:28:04.670 --> 00:28:05.990
of years later after the show, and they're like,

00:28:06.009 --> 00:28:08.789
bloody hell, how did it move that? So it's one

00:28:08.789 --> 00:28:11.690
of those where, you know, we were there in the

00:28:11.690 --> 00:28:13.490
daytime, there was a few things that we caught

00:28:13.490 --> 00:28:15.589
there. We've been back recently at night as well,

00:28:15.589 --> 00:28:18.650
and we caught children's voices there. It was

00:28:18.650 --> 00:28:20.670
believed it was a children's school, but again,

00:28:20.849 --> 00:28:24.170
I found out since it wasn't, they've created

00:28:24.170 --> 00:28:27.480
it as that. But even so, we still caught children's

00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.319
voices in there. And obviously with the whole

00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.779
wait thing, moving the door, I just, you know,

00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.619
I just, to be fair, my reaction was almost like,

00:28:35.619 --> 00:28:37.299
you know, what the hell just happened? Because

00:28:37.299 --> 00:28:40.059
I was laughing because for me, it was like, you

00:28:40.059 --> 00:28:41.859
know, it was still daytime. I wasn't expecting

00:28:41.859 --> 00:28:44.420
it. I heard footsteps above. I heard this dragon

00:28:44.420 --> 00:28:45.759
sound behind me. I've turned around. It's like,

00:28:45.859 --> 00:28:48.519
what the, you know, kind of thing. So it was

00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:50.400
one of those. I just, I just looked at the time

00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:53.720
and thought, hmm, interesting. But when I tried

00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.180
to recreate and I was there, I would have had

00:28:56.180 --> 00:29:00.039
to push it with some force. We stayed there an

00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.299
hour or two after, just to see if it could be

00:29:02.299 --> 00:29:04.539
wind. But then wind wouldn't be able to move

00:29:04.539 --> 00:29:06.420
that because it's got a weight on the door. There

00:29:06.420 --> 00:29:08.740
was a little bit of a blow breeze in there in

00:29:08.740 --> 00:29:10.839
general because the door was open. But again,

00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.299
it never happened again. So it's just one of

00:29:13.299 --> 00:29:18.079
those that... Hi John, hope you're well. Sorry,

00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.480
it's Lindsay. Hi Lindsay, hope you're well. I

00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:23.880
should have spoke to you earlier on. it's one

00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.240
of those that um yeah I just you know I just

00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:27.839
I look back on the thing that was at the very

00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.960
start of my journey so you know it's um always

00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.400
an amazing capture because I didn't expect much

00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:35.880
because one it being daytime it's one of the

00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:37.539
things I used to get criticized for when I first

00:29:37.539 --> 00:29:39.980
started this why does he always capture capture

00:29:39.980 --> 00:29:41.819
stuff in the daytime why does he go out investigate

00:29:41.819 --> 00:29:44.299
in the daytime that most of my experiences as

00:29:44.299 --> 00:29:47.079
a kid were in the daytime so you know for me

00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:48.640
seeing a figure in my grandmother's house on

00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.180
a daytime logically in my brain it's like well

00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:53.319
you know why does it have to be at night you

00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:55.599
know so just because it gets dark doesn't mean

00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.140
to say they're not active in a daytime so I wanted

00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:01.380
to start out when I first do this in the daytime

00:30:01.380 --> 00:30:03.779
to see what I capture and you know I've been

00:30:03.779 --> 00:30:06.019
lucky enough to capture some things that can't

00:30:06.019 --> 00:30:08.619
be explained or again it's just having cameras

00:30:08.619 --> 00:30:10.819
and and just making sure you've got a couple

00:30:10.819 --> 00:30:12.640
of cameras around you so you've got everything

00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:16.640
covered so you can see what's going on yeah no

00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:20.380
absolutely Well, I mean, what you're saying about

00:30:20.380 --> 00:30:22.920
daytime and nighttime, I mean, paranormal activity

00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:24.680
is going to happen no matter what time of day

00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:27.140
it is. If it's going to happen, it'll happen.

00:30:27.779 --> 00:30:30.380
I had a lot of experiences in the daytime myself.

00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:34.759
Yeah. No, I agree. And unfortunately, when I

00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:37.309
first started, it was a bit of a... you know,

00:30:37.490 --> 00:30:39.269
because I was capturing stuff, people were like,

00:30:39.369 --> 00:30:41.230
Oh, you know, it's you can't do it in the daytime.

00:30:41.430 --> 00:30:43.569
It's, you know, it's against not against the

00:30:43.569 --> 00:30:45.609
paranormal or kind of thing. But, you know, it's

00:30:45.609 --> 00:30:47.690
just one of those things that for me is a personal

00:30:47.690 --> 00:30:49.609
journey. So, you know, everyone's got to do it

00:30:49.609 --> 00:30:52.329
for their own reasons. And, and try not to listen

00:30:52.329 --> 00:30:54.630
to the noise is what I say, because unfortunately,

00:30:55.289 --> 00:30:56.309
you're always gonna get people that are going

00:30:56.309 --> 00:30:58.269
to criticize, but at the same point, you just

00:30:58.269 --> 00:31:00.450
got to look, look past that and say, that's fine.

00:31:00.589 --> 00:31:04.119
That's your opinion and move on. Exactly. exactly

00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:05.660
you have to do that because you want to know

00:31:05.660 --> 00:31:07.579
what you can't give anyone else that type of

00:31:07.579 --> 00:31:11.920
uh energy you know no not at all so let me show

00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.160
it one more time but this thing is awesome man

00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:38.710
such a great capture here we go Any children

00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:42.329
here, can you make a massive banging noise please?

00:31:43.309 --> 00:31:52.410
Can you bang them to show us where you are? That's

00:31:52.410 --> 00:32:09.000
a dog. Man, that'll never get old man. Okay,

00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.619
um, like I said my reaction itself is like I

00:32:11.619 --> 00:32:14.460
just sometimes because I got ADHD So I always

00:32:14.460 --> 00:32:16.859
think that just heightens things in general and

00:32:16.859 --> 00:32:20.720
I try a lot a lot of things that happen now that

00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.859
apparently because it's almost like a Reaction,

00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:24.680
I can't believe it just happens. It's almost

00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.559
like a I don't know defense mechanisms like shit,

00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.440
you know, that's that's mad, you know and rather

00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:33.900
than you know in a way kind of I think sometimes

00:32:33.900 --> 00:32:36.059
when I've worked with people in the past where

00:32:36.059 --> 00:32:38.279
we've met them in the public and stuff and you've

00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.220
missed the evidence by the time you screamed

00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:43.299
and bloody ran off and stuff. I'm not like that

00:32:43.299 --> 00:32:44.940
because I've experienced so much from a young

00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:49.339
age. It just becomes more natural. So it's probably

00:32:49.339 --> 00:32:51.579
a better thing really on camera than obviously

00:32:51.579 --> 00:32:57.079
running off and scare jumping. I think it's great

00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.400
that you don't run from it. As an investigator,

00:32:59.700 --> 00:33:01.940
you're asking for something and then you're getting

00:33:01.940 --> 00:33:04.789
it and you're not running from it. No, exactly.

00:33:04.789 --> 00:33:07.289
I mean to be fair the banging sound to me behind

00:33:07.289 --> 00:33:08.910
I didn't even realize the door shot. It was like

00:33:08.910 --> 00:33:11.009
it's only two I turned around I was like, you

00:33:11.009 --> 00:33:13.309
know, but it was quite loud. I mean the cameras

00:33:13.309 --> 00:33:16.710
picked up on that I could hear the weight being

00:33:16.710 --> 00:33:19.009
dragged at the time as well But obviously it

00:33:19.009 --> 00:33:21.930
happens quickly as it always does and also I

00:33:21.930 --> 00:33:24.029
didn't get to see the full motion whereas Bev

00:33:24.029 --> 00:33:26.150
could see behind because she was filming at the

00:33:26.150 --> 00:33:29.410
camera just go and Then the door just go bang

00:33:29.410 --> 00:33:34.309
and the weight moved across the room behind my

00:33:34.309 --> 00:33:38.289
back as they say, but it is what it is. Yeah,

00:33:38.289 --> 00:33:40.170
no, that's that. I'm telling you that that's

00:33:40.170 --> 00:33:43.329
such a great capture. 100 % such a great capture.

00:33:44.069 --> 00:33:45.829
I think that you explained that it was a weight

00:33:45.829 --> 00:33:48.589
because when I first saw it, I heard the noise

00:33:48.589 --> 00:33:54.369
and I was like, what was that? Yes, it's almost

00:33:54.369 --> 00:33:57.329
like a I don't know. It's it's it's got to look

00:33:57.329 --> 00:33:59.269
at doors. I don't know how much it weighs. It's

00:33:59.269 --> 00:34:00.869
quite heavy. I mean, I go to the gym one time.

00:34:01.329 --> 00:34:04.049
So I picked up and thought, well, you know, it's

00:34:04.049 --> 00:34:06.430
hard, you know, heavy enough to hold that door.

00:34:06.890 --> 00:34:09.110
And if it was wind, they wouldn't move it, you

00:34:09.110 --> 00:34:11.250
know, it's there for a purpose to stop the door

00:34:11.250 --> 00:34:14.090
from closing on people because it is a daytime

00:34:14.090 --> 00:34:15.909
place for people to go and, you know, visit,

00:34:16.070 --> 00:34:18.469
etc. So it would have been heavy enough to, you

00:34:18.469 --> 00:34:20.610
know, not slam on people. That's that's why I

00:34:20.610 --> 00:34:22.409
was brought up to people. I was it wouldn't be

00:34:22.409 --> 00:34:24.929
there. I mean, you know, we were there for a

00:34:24.929 --> 00:34:26.969
good couple hours after and it never did it again.

00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:29.150
Didn't do it before. You know, that was sort

00:34:29.150 --> 00:34:32.750
of in between the investigation. And yeah. So

00:34:32.750 --> 00:34:35.610
it's just one of those that No one's ever reported

00:34:35.610 --> 00:34:37.670
it happening again. So, you know if they have

00:34:37.670 --> 00:34:39.989
i've not seen it So it's just one of those that's

00:34:39.989 --> 00:34:43.289
happened. I guess I did it on your request too,

00:34:43.349 --> 00:34:47.469
which was amazing Yeah, I mean you'll see me

00:34:47.469 --> 00:34:49.650
point upstairs. I could hear like a walk But

00:34:49.650 --> 00:34:50.929
I just thought that was banging the sound at

00:34:50.929 --> 00:34:52.590
the top like someone walking down the stairs

00:34:52.590 --> 00:34:55.789
at the time and um, that's why I point out like

00:34:55.789 --> 00:34:59.590
I just heard something and then then That straight

00:34:59.590 --> 00:35:02.079
after so Did I just hear someone walk down and

00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.800
did someone shut the door just behind me? I don't

00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.400
know. All I know is it's just one of those that

00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.440
happened. Imagine you got a ghost and he's just

00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:11.699
sitting there and he's just like, this guy is

00:35:11.699 --> 00:35:13.559
just annoying the piss out of me right now, you

00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:17.320
know? He's like sitting at the door on you, you

00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:20.099
know? It could well be. I mean, the amount of

00:35:20.099 --> 00:35:22.019
locations I get to when I go to sort of forts

00:35:22.019 --> 00:35:25.199
and prisons, saying get out and stuff. But then

00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.199
I hear it on a lot of people's videos. even people

00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:29.820
that say they don't capture stuff, I watch them

00:35:29.820 --> 00:35:31.780
and think they just call to get out there and

00:35:31.780 --> 00:35:33.719
it's quite, it's quite regularly because you've

00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.519
got people there that are very territorial and

00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.079
you know, they're almost like top dog kind of

00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.420
thing, you know, especially in prisons and forts

00:35:41.420 --> 00:35:43.300
and stuff, you know, they're very much like you

00:35:43.300 --> 00:35:45.960
shouldn't be here, get out, you know, and authority

00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.659
kind of thing. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

00:35:50.860 --> 00:35:52.179
All right. This next video that you're going

00:35:52.179 --> 00:35:54.730
to show us. I'm going to let you speak on it

00:35:54.730 --> 00:35:56.309
afterwards because I haven't got to watch this

00:35:56.309 --> 00:35:59.349
one yet, so I'm excited to check this out. Here

00:35:59.349 --> 00:36:30.849
we go. So yeah, so I don't I don't believe in

00:36:30.849 --> 00:36:33.550
apps. This was an app called spirit talker. It's

00:36:33.550 --> 00:36:35.710
not I don't believe in I've caught disembodied

00:36:35.710 --> 00:36:39.230
voices responding to apps. But I don't really

00:36:39.230 --> 00:36:42.269
use apps as a as a, you know, a goal. So Emily

00:36:42.269 --> 00:36:46.329
was using the spirit talker app. And I had a

00:36:46.329 --> 00:36:49.389
little child's voice go Thomas just before. Now

00:36:49.389 --> 00:36:51.849
as I called it out, the app said it straight

00:36:51.849 --> 00:36:55.690
after. So I can't explain that because whether

00:36:55.690 --> 00:36:58.199
it's recording my more voice on their app or

00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:00.840
whatever because i've never used it as such before

00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.280
you know we started using it on and it was in

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.300
an asylum now if you listen carefully just after

00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:08.039
i said that you can actually hear a child's voice

00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:11.659
there uh going me really yeah sir if you listen

00:37:11.659 --> 00:37:15.039
to it you'd like a me um almost like agreeing

00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.019
that you know uh because obviously there's two

00:37:17.019 --> 00:37:19.760
females there emily and debbie but that kind

00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:21.400
of just acknowledged it but there's a little

00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.539
voice going me you'll hear it if you listen to

00:37:23.539 --> 00:37:26.429
it again Oh, let's check this out one more time.

00:37:26.469 --> 00:37:37.730
Hold on one sec. I felt like someone hung himself.

00:37:40.929 --> 00:37:43.650
Is there a little child here called Thomas? Thomas?

00:37:44.269 --> 00:37:47.550
Oh no. You are a joke. You're completely kidding

00:37:47.550 --> 00:37:53.949
me. Hi Thomas. You said that before the app.

00:38:01.940 --> 00:38:05.599
So, yeah, it's after Emily says you've got to

00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.639
be kidding me. That's like a female little child

00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.719
talking over. I'm like, me. Yeah, you know, I

00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:14.619
didn't get, I didn't hear it a little bit. It's

00:38:14.619 --> 00:38:16.099
hard because I don't have my headphones on but

00:38:16.099 --> 00:38:17.980
yeah, I did hear it a little bit. It's crazy

00:38:17.980 --> 00:38:20.139
though when you get the promise right after you

00:38:20.139 --> 00:38:22.000
set it though through that, through the app because

00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.260
it's like You know i i'm the same way as you

00:38:24.260 --> 00:38:26.780
i'm very skeptical with obviously apps so like

00:38:26.780 --> 00:38:29.239
i really will go through the app turn it on and

00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.699
like listen to the app to make sure what things

00:38:31.699 --> 00:38:34.099
are you know sounds and what really are if i'm

00:38:34.099 --> 00:38:36.780
going to use an app to try and test it out because

00:38:36.780 --> 00:38:40.059
i i have a hard time just because i don't know

00:38:40.059 --> 00:38:42.500
who is creating the app and if they are creating

00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:44.219
the app i don't know them personally enough to

00:38:44.219 --> 00:38:46.300
know if they're really trying to like you know

00:38:46.300 --> 00:38:48.099
fake some stuff you know what i mean so it's

00:38:48.099 --> 00:38:50.650
kind of hard for me but even on fake apps I've

00:38:50.650 --> 00:38:53.849
actually gotten responses so there has to be

00:38:53.849 --> 00:38:57.070
some way for the frequency or vibration or whatever

00:38:57.070 --> 00:38:59.949
that these apps this phone or whatever the devices

00:38:59.949 --> 00:39:03.250
give off that these spirits can manipulate in

00:39:03.250 --> 00:39:06.010
some sort of way to be able to communicate to

00:39:06.010 --> 00:39:09.849
us through so yeah I mean I think for me uh because

00:39:09.849 --> 00:39:11.590
because obviously where I'm capturing these disembodied

00:39:11.590 --> 00:39:14.090
voices I've I've a couple of times when these

00:39:14.090 --> 00:39:16.730
apps have said words I'm like you just got response

00:39:16.730 --> 00:39:19.289
there from a disembodied voice saying responding

00:39:19.289 --> 00:39:21.849
like yet or whatever so sometimes there could

00:39:21.849 --> 00:39:24.309
be words in these banks that are coming out where

00:39:24.309 --> 00:39:26.349
the Spirits there that were actually acknowledging

00:39:26.349 --> 00:39:28.949
it's like that makes sense to me like when we

00:39:28.949 --> 00:39:32.010
ask questions, you know It's you we always ask

00:39:32.010 --> 00:39:34.389
several questions because I always believe if

00:39:34.389 --> 00:39:35.730
you throw the right question out they're going

00:39:35.730 --> 00:39:38.269
to use that energy to Contact you whereas if

00:39:38.269 --> 00:39:40.829
you just keep saying move this touch that they're

00:39:40.829 --> 00:39:43.469
like not not interested But if you ask questions

00:39:43.469 --> 00:39:46.619
about them happen to them you know it's the same

00:39:46.619 --> 00:39:49.139
principle if an app comes out with a word like

00:39:49.139 --> 00:39:52.460
he died here or she died here or murder and then

00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:54.360
like yes and you get a disembodied voice going

00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:56.679
yes i did or something like that i've had things

00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:58.840
like that before what's happened i find that

00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.659
interesting because there's a yeah that spirit

00:40:01.659 --> 00:40:04.179
is here in that app for its frequency so it obviously

00:40:04.179 --> 00:40:06.559
can hear it like you can hear us so i do find

00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.980
that interesting yeah absolutely man absolutely

00:40:09.980 --> 00:40:12.019
i mean i don't know if i ever told you about

00:40:12.019 --> 00:40:14.019
the time when i had my near -death experience

00:40:14.019 --> 00:40:17.119
but I think I'm not sure I'm pretty sure we talked

00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.639
about it but if we didn't it was weird for me

00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:21.400
because I was able to hear and see everything

00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.219
when I was staring at my body when I was outside

00:40:23.219 --> 00:40:26.199
my body like no problem like and like I was telling

00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:29.000
everybody I could be over the person's shoulder

00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.360
on the left the paramedic on the left in his

00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.940
thoughts same thing on the right side with that

00:40:33.940 --> 00:40:36.699
paramedic at the same time simultaneously all

00:40:36.699 --> 00:40:39.099
at once understanding everything individually.

00:40:39.619 --> 00:40:42.480
So it's just so crazy to like You know here,

00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.760
you know to think about what they can do with

00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:48.260
you know abscesses like that because I felt completely

00:40:48.260 --> 00:40:51.820
invincible and instructable obviously as Outside

00:40:51.820 --> 00:40:54.539
of my body, you know what I mean? Yeah astral

00:40:54.539 --> 00:40:56.519
projection has the same sort of principle, you

00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:59.300
know, like I've done it a couple of times and

00:40:59.300 --> 00:41:01.980
you know, it's You can I I do believe if you

00:41:01.980 --> 00:41:04.480
do it and you conquer it You can you come back

00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:06.340
and you learn things from that side. You bring

00:41:06.340 --> 00:41:08.730
it back to you to this side because obviously

00:41:08.730 --> 00:41:10.789
when you do astral projection like you just said

00:41:10.789 --> 00:41:12.869
there with the near -death experience you hear

00:41:12.869 --> 00:41:15.530
and see things so clearly because you haven't

00:41:15.530 --> 00:41:17.710
got this 3d form body you're you know you're

00:41:17.710 --> 00:41:20.090
not a physical sense you're you're a light being

00:41:20.090 --> 00:41:23.389
so you know you bring that back with you each

00:41:23.389 --> 00:41:25.170
time you go and do it it's like a bit like like

00:41:25.170 --> 00:41:27.469
a school lesson you know you you come back and

00:41:27.469 --> 00:41:29.889
you come back and you're more sort of like intuitive

00:41:29.889 --> 00:41:31.590
what's around you because you're used to that

00:41:31.590 --> 00:41:34.130
frequency you know it's coming back to you whereas

00:41:34.130 --> 00:41:36.400
a lot of people I mean, my mama had a near -death

00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.900
experience, and she actually floated above her

00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:43.000
body. She was dead for a fair few minutes. She

00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.559
watched the whole procedure, and she told the

00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.880
doctors, you know, you shouldn't be poking tongues,

00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:50.840
poking a spoon in people's mouths if they're

00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.519
having a fit. The lady looked, like, how do you

00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:57.599
know that? Because you were dead. I hear so many

00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.860
stories doing this. People, they tell me, et

00:42:00.860 --> 00:42:03.360
cetera. So there's something in it. there is.

00:42:03.619 --> 00:42:05.039
And obviously, like you said, these things are

00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.079
around us. I just think that we've lost that

00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:09.500
ability because of technology, you know, it's

00:42:09.500 --> 00:42:12.699
always been within us to tune into it. But unfortunately,

00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.059
we're surrounded by technology. And I think if

00:42:15.059 --> 00:42:17.099
you separate yourself from it, you know, and

00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:19.840
have a bit of both, then you know, you can sort

00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:23.219
of tune in and then tune out like I do. Yeah,

00:42:23.539 --> 00:42:25.679
yeah, it's a it's a distraction. Definitely,

00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:29.800
for sure. For sure. One thing that we have never

00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:31.579
really talked about me and you, man, and I always

00:42:31.579 --> 00:42:34.179
wanted to talk about it was your medium abilities.

00:42:35.420 --> 00:42:37.159
When about did you figure out that you were a

00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.139
medium? And when did you, you know, when did

00:42:40.139 --> 00:42:42.280
you start actually like, you know, doing, you

00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.659
know, medium type work? So I don't believe in

00:42:45.659 --> 00:42:47.719
the word medium or psychic. I believe that we've

00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.440
all got that ability. I hate it because I think

00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.860
that that separates us all as human beings because

00:42:53.860 --> 00:42:56.639
no, absolutely. Yeah, everyone's got that with

00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:59.320
them. I don't do mediumship workers as a whole,

00:42:59.579 --> 00:43:01.940
like give people reading and stuff. What I do

00:43:01.940 --> 00:43:04.900
is I just document what I capture on locations,

00:43:05.019 --> 00:43:07.460
put it up there. And when I work with people,

00:43:07.539 --> 00:43:09.780
I try and get them to see a different way, a

00:43:09.780 --> 00:43:12.440
different way of working. And most people that

00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.840
do me, they end up working in that role. They

00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.019
go on investigations and they start hearing things

00:43:18.019 --> 00:43:22.260
that they didn't before. It's almost like a different

00:43:22.260 --> 00:43:25.119
way of working. You know, that's why I would

00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:27.619
say the the mediumship is to me and also the

00:43:27.619 --> 00:43:29.679
psychic ability stuff. It's it's nonsense because

00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.539
we've all got it It's just a case again. Some

00:43:32.539 --> 00:43:35.019
people have favored how to use it Some people

00:43:35.019 --> 00:43:37.360
always had it and you know, and I just don't

00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.960
like the terms because I think it separates source

00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:43.239
as individuals You know, you could do it. I agree

00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:45.519
All three of us could do it. It's just a case

00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:48.159
of um Getting back to that, you know getting

00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.539
back to basics starting again and learning how

00:43:50.539 --> 00:43:54.980
to use it I agree 100%. I believe that uh you're

00:43:54.980 --> 00:43:57.159
absolutely right. I believe it's dormant inside

00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.400
all of us and it's like a muscle and you kind

00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:00.960
of have to work that muscle. You know what I'm

00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.000
saying a little bit to get it going and and then

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.179
it starts going but you know, it's a really truly

00:44:06.179 --> 00:44:08.179
fully control it. Obviously, you really have

00:44:08.179 --> 00:44:11.519
to really work at that and I find that so fascinating

00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:14.019
that we all have this ability inside of us and

00:44:14.019 --> 00:44:16.840
if we all just believe that understood that the

00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.670
things that we are capable of would be Yeah,

00:44:20.670 --> 00:44:22.530
I mean if you've had a parallel experience you're

00:44:22.530 --> 00:44:24.309
a medium because you've experienced you sense

00:44:24.309 --> 00:44:26.070
that you've picked up on it You've seen it. You've

00:44:26.070 --> 00:44:28.110
heard it. Well, therefore, you know, you're you

00:44:28.110 --> 00:44:30.210
that's that's my whole point So everyone that's

00:44:30.210 --> 00:44:31.989
having the experience you can class yourself

00:44:31.989 --> 00:44:33.670
as a medium because you've already experienced

00:44:33.670 --> 00:44:36.090
something that's phenomenal or you can't explain

00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:38.610
You know and you're tuning into a different frequency

00:44:38.610 --> 00:44:40.909
and you're seeing something or hearing something

00:44:40.909 --> 00:44:43.630
or picking up something that others ain't so

00:44:43.630 --> 00:44:46.210
You know it to me. It's just just a case of separating

00:44:46.210 --> 00:44:48.789
yourself from words and meanings in this in this

00:44:48.789 --> 00:44:50.750
world and you know and just looking at you know

00:44:50.750 --> 00:44:53.309
what we've all got a gift. It's just tuning them

00:44:53.309 --> 00:44:56.250
back into it going back to the old school and

00:44:56.250 --> 00:45:01.329
um asking the right questions. Yeah. Absolutely.

00:45:02.010 --> 00:45:05.110
Absolutely. I tell you what, man. You said you've

00:45:05.110 --> 00:45:08.010
traveled, right? Um yeah. I want to actually

00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:09.829
ask you, have you done that two days before?

00:45:10.010 --> 00:45:12.070
Um no, I actually have not. They haven't done

00:45:12.070 --> 00:45:14.469
that. Okay. So, I've traveled myself. What was

00:45:14.469 --> 00:45:20.760
your If you want me to be honest to you, it's,

00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.500
I always say like, you know, what so so that's

00:45:24.500 --> 00:45:26.659
so close up above kind of thing, you know, you've

00:45:26.659 --> 00:45:30.380
got good and bad. You know, people make it mean

00:45:30.380 --> 00:45:32.780
when I do paranormal investigations, you get

00:45:32.780 --> 00:45:35.059
you get people that swear to somebody was swearing

00:45:35.059 --> 00:45:37.440
this that the other, you know, it's no different.

00:45:37.619 --> 00:45:38.820
You know, you don't just suddenly leave your

00:45:38.820 --> 00:45:40.559
physical body and everything's like love and

00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.659
light. It's not you've got good and bad up above.

00:45:44.059 --> 00:45:47.349
So you know, same thing down here. I don't I

00:45:47.349 --> 00:45:50.150
don't believe in no heaven sort of stuff because

00:45:50.150 --> 00:45:52.750
obviously I believe that once we leave here We've

00:45:52.750 --> 00:45:55.010
got choices and I think we need to make the right

00:45:55.010 --> 00:45:57.670
choices and I you know, that's something that's

00:45:57.670 --> 00:46:01.929
a longer story You know, obviously I think if

00:46:01.929 --> 00:46:03.969
you look at deep down on this earth in general

00:46:03.969 --> 00:46:06.849
it's quite a barbaric place and you know, there's

00:46:06.849 --> 00:46:09.750
a lot of trauma a lot of suffering and you know

00:46:09.750 --> 00:46:12.849
and Personally the reincarnation sort of thing.

00:46:12.909 --> 00:46:14.510
I think why would you want to come back here

00:46:14.510 --> 00:46:16.679
because you know, you can come back and do all

00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:18.380
that again. I thought, you know, to me, that

00:46:18.380 --> 00:46:20.480
seems a bit more of a trap. But again, that's

00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.340
going into something completely different and

00:46:22.340 --> 00:46:25.719
another show maybe. But yeah, there was some

00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:28.420
positive stuff there, 100%. But there was also

00:46:28.420 --> 00:46:30.340
stuff there, like, you know, you used to think,

00:46:30.340 --> 00:46:32.019
hang on, this is a bit weird, you know, a bit

00:46:32.019 --> 00:46:35.800
trippy. And, you know, but people wouldn't, wouldn't

00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:37.780
sort of understand it, because unless you've

00:46:37.780 --> 00:46:39.940
actually been there, and, you know, I didn't

00:46:39.940 --> 00:46:42.239
need no drugs for this, it's all done from meditation

00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.150
and using frequencies and stuff. then, you know,

00:46:45.170 --> 00:46:47.309
it's hard to explain. But like you just said,

00:46:47.329 --> 00:46:50.210
you hear things and see things so much clearer,

00:46:50.610 --> 00:46:53.389
you know, everything feels lighter, you're aware

00:46:53.389 --> 00:46:57.449
of your awareness is, you know, it's, you can't

00:46:57.449 --> 00:46:59.489
even describe it, the human being, it's just,

00:46:59.690 --> 00:47:02.010
it's, you know, imaginable, it's just crazy.

00:47:02.070 --> 00:47:04.969
But then it also explore about powerful. So if

00:47:04.969 --> 00:47:07.210
you're a negative person, you could potentially

00:47:07.210 --> 00:47:09.230
put yourself in a negative position. Whereas

00:47:09.230 --> 00:47:11.710
if you're a positive person, you know, it's all

00:47:11.710 --> 00:47:14.110
power of thought. So therefore I wouldn't advise

00:47:14.110 --> 00:47:16.489
doing it if you're in a negative place because

00:47:16.489 --> 00:47:18.849
potentially, you know, you could put yourself

00:47:18.849 --> 00:47:21.369
in that place. So again, it's all to do with

00:47:21.369 --> 00:47:23.730
the, you know, how you're feeling in general

00:47:23.730 --> 00:47:25.769
and, you know, letting go of the trauma on this

00:47:25.769 --> 00:47:28.389
side. And then when, when you're on the other

00:47:28.389 --> 00:47:30.309
side, things would be much more an easier ride.

00:47:31.630 --> 00:47:34.550
Absolutely. Absolutely, man. Absolutely. Do you

00:47:34.550 --> 00:47:37.210
have any questions for me? No, I, I've always

00:47:37.210 --> 00:47:44.039
been afraid of astral travel, honestly. Yeah

00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:46.800
I've never well when I first heard about it.

00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.179
I was like hmm Yeah, you know like did I believe

00:47:50.179 --> 00:47:52.519
it first because again when I first started all

00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:54.519
this or because of my childhood experience I

00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:56.159
was trying to poopoo a lot of things and say

00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.300
yeah, it just could be me as a child But you

00:47:58.300 --> 00:48:00.940
know at first I thought it probably wouldn't

00:48:00.940 --> 00:48:04.360
happen. You know I spanked my brother about he

00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.739
said he did it a couple of times and I tried

00:48:07.739 --> 00:48:10.039
it and I thought well there were things that

00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.679
happen that I can't explain And, you know, it

00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:14.679
did, it did sort of scare me when it did happen,

00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.099
because I was like, when you when it first did

00:48:17.099 --> 00:48:19.400
happen, I was like, my, this is it, if I, how

00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.360
do I get back into my body? But again, it's all

00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.380
powerful. It's like, you know, you just got to

00:48:24.380 --> 00:48:26.480
learn to sort of switch off, because we don't,

00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:30.400
again, our brains almost off page, you got one

00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.579
side, it's negative ones, telling you the positive

00:48:32.579 --> 00:48:34.980
ones tell you negative, you know, unfortunately,

00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:36.739
that's the way it is. But you don't have that

00:48:36.739 --> 00:48:38.840
on that side. So then your full process is your

00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:41.150
own full process. so that's where you let go

00:48:41.150 --> 00:48:44.230
of the attachments of the physical and you know

00:48:44.230 --> 00:48:46.130
and see things differently you know because everything

00:48:46.130 --> 00:48:49.489
here is materialistic on that side it's not everything

00:48:49.489 --> 00:48:52.309
is you so therefore what you think is where you

00:48:52.309 --> 00:48:53.769
work you know if you want to go back into your

00:48:53.769 --> 00:48:56.429
body you say it yourself you're back in if you

00:48:56.429 --> 00:48:58.170
want to go somewhere you say it yourself you're

00:48:58.170 --> 00:49:01.110
there um yeah obviously you just got to de -attach

00:49:01.110 --> 00:49:03.550
from from the physical and anything that's got

00:49:03.550 --> 00:49:06.210
you know any trauma and stuff otherwise you could

00:49:06.210 --> 00:49:08.369
potentially put yourself in that trauma for that

00:49:08.369 --> 00:49:12.369
small amount of time That's that's exactly why

00:49:12.369 --> 00:49:15.150
I have never attempted because I didn't feel

00:49:15.150 --> 00:49:18.909
like I personally was like Full or strong enough

00:49:18.909 --> 00:49:21.449
to be able to handle that at this point. Yeah,

00:49:21.570 --> 00:49:24.090
so I have a lot of work I would have to do before

00:49:24.090 --> 00:49:27.230
I would even attempt something like that No,

00:49:27.230 --> 00:49:29.409
I agree. It's the same with the paranormal investigations,

00:49:29.409 --> 00:49:32.090
you know, sometimes if you're in a bad place

00:49:32.090 --> 00:49:34.170
I wouldn't advise people to go there because

00:49:34.170 --> 00:49:36.309
you're gonna you're gonna draw in that that you

00:49:36.309 --> 00:49:38.800
know that negative side or something's going

00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:40.679
to feed off that, you know, and this is why I

00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:42.780
say about the good and the bad, you know, you've

00:49:42.780 --> 00:49:46.039
got things that love to feed off our energy on

00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:48.820
this planet, as they do in, you know, in their

00:49:48.820 --> 00:49:50.880
etc. Not everything's good. But at the same point,

00:49:50.940 --> 00:49:53.300
not everything's bad. So you just got to know,

00:49:53.500 --> 00:49:54.860
work with, you know, work with what you feel.

00:49:54.860 --> 00:49:56.639
And that's why on investigations, I will say

00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.199
to people, you know, if you see someone in the

00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.639
street and their vibes are bad, yeah, a lot of

00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:03.119
people say it's an investigation. So I don't

00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:05.489
feel right around me. It feels horrible. go by

00:50:05.489 --> 00:50:07.110
that instinct what you would do in the street

00:50:07.110 --> 00:50:08.789
there's a reason why it doesn't feel good because

00:50:08.789 --> 00:50:10.050
there's something there that doesn't feel good

00:50:10.050 --> 00:50:12.269
around your energy and that's your energy telling

00:50:12.269 --> 00:50:15.510
you no you know get away kind of thing i don't

00:50:15.510 --> 00:50:17.809
want to be near this and it's the same that's

00:50:17.809 --> 00:50:19.449
the same vibe when you see someone in the street

00:50:19.449 --> 00:50:21.909
and you think he gives me the creeps or she gives

00:50:21.909 --> 00:50:23.949
me the creeps or something that's a bit off about

00:50:23.949 --> 00:50:26.329
them you know it's the same same sort of pattern

00:50:26.329 --> 00:50:29.070
you just got to go by your instincts your energy

00:50:29.070 --> 00:50:31.150
what's telling you you know go with the go with

00:50:31.150 --> 00:50:33.449
them sometimes because it is it's there for a

00:50:33.449 --> 00:50:38.340
reason Right, exactly. Absolutely. I think it's

00:50:38.340 --> 00:50:40.840
absolutely amazing. My one experience I had was

00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:43.480
very jaw -dropping for me, and I hope that I

00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.099
have another one, but I don't try to force them

00:50:46.099 --> 00:50:48.039
on, but if it happens, it happens, you know?

00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:50.300
Yeah, just let it natural, man. It's always the

00:50:50.300 --> 00:50:51.760
best way, because like you say, you'll be ready.

00:50:51.820 --> 00:50:52.940
When you're ready, you're ready. That's what

00:50:52.940 --> 00:50:56.659
I always say. Yeah. Okay, so here's one of the

00:50:56.659 --> 00:50:58.360
last videos that we have. I want to show this

00:50:58.360 --> 00:50:59.980
video real quick, and then you can talk about

00:50:59.980 --> 00:52:05.670
it. Yeah. Wow! Yeah, this is quite an interesting

00:52:05.670 --> 00:52:07.909
one because we were given permission by the Skirrid

00:52:07.909 --> 00:52:11.070
Inn, the lovely owners, it's quite a well -known

00:52:11.070 --> 00:52:15.030
pub in Wales and the UK and they shut the pub

00:52:15.030 --> 00:52:17.369
early for us actually to go and document some

00:52:17.369 --> 00:52:20.869
evidence there and we left several locked off

00:52:20.869 --> 00:52:23.769
cameras there, they left the pub which was once

00:52:23.769 --> 00:52:26.630
a prison and where we were it was actually like

00:52:26.630 --> 00:52:28.369
a court where they used to send all the people

00:52:28.369 --> 00:52:32.429
for hangings which were down below. And I left

00:52:32.429 --> 00:52:34.469
a locked off camera there. Me and Bev went into

00:52:34.469 --> 00:52:36.409
the other room. There's three rooms there to

00:52:36.409 --> 00:52:37.869
go and set up another locked off camera. You

00:52:37.869 --> 00:52:41.130
can hear us talking. And it sounds like something

00:52:41.130 --> 00:52:43.929
knocking the camera down and then dragging it

00:52:43.929 --> 00:52:48.389
across the table. I didn't know until probably

00:52:48.389 --> 00:52:50.789
about an hour after what happened because it

00:52:50.789 --> 00:52:53.050
was like the camera's down. So obviously for

00:52:53.050 --> 00:52:54.469
me, I just thought, oh, it just fell down because

00:52:54.469 --> 00:52:56.530
I didn't remember which position I put it in.

00:52:57.829 --> 00:53:00.070
Um, and literally as I've watched back on the

00:53:00.070 --> 00:53:04.250
footage, um, you can just hear like dragging

00:53:04.250 --> 00:53:06.289
across the table is if someone didn't want us

00:53:06.289 --> 00:53:08.530
to film there. Now, when we were there, we caught

00:53:08.530 --> 00:53:12.289
a couple of disembodied voices. Um, again, it's

00:53:12.289 --> 00:53:13.929
the pub in itself, not attached to anything.

00:53:14.429 --> 00:53:17.230
It's in the middle of nowhere in Wales. Um, and

00:53:17.230 --> 00:53:19.010
yeah, we caught a woman's voice saying my name

00:53:19.010 --> 00:53:21.670
going Tony. That was caught on camera. And then

00:53:21.670 --> 00:53:24.829
some footsteps just before walking upstairs.

00:53:24.989 --> 00:53:27.070
Now I get my name called out quite a lot on locations.

00:53:27.389 --> 00:53:30.210
and I usually notice when that happens something

00:53:30.210 --> 00:53:33.190
bad's coming around like we start hearing something

00:53:33.190 --> 00:53:35.750
or the energy changes almost like there's a warning

00:53:35.750 --> 00:53:38.170
that something's coming and I usually call out

00:53:38.170 --> 00:53:39.989
call out on camera going someone just said my

00:53:39.989 --> 00:53:43.809
name um so that for me now I get what that's

00:53:43.809 --> 00:53:46.530
about it's almost a case of keep your guard up

00:53:46.530 --> 00:53:48.829
um something something you know not so nice is

00:53:48.829 --> 00:53:51.610
coming in and that's that's cool you've gotten

00:53:51.610 --> 00:53:53.329
that that's really awesome that you've been able

00:53:53.329 --> 00:53:56.219
to interpret that in that way you know yeah Well,

00:53:56.219 --> 00:53:58.300
it's happened so many times and obviously where

00:53:58.300 --> 00:54:00.460
we go to quite a lot of traumatic places like

00:54:00.460 --> 00:54:03.099
forts and and prisons and stuff, you know, and

00:54:03.099 --> 00:54:06.579
even sometimes asylums and hospitals. You know,

00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:08.619
you go to these places and you don't know what

00:54:08.619 --> 00:54:11.239
you're going to encounter. And unfortunately,

00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:13.639
it's not all pleasant, but it's not all demonic.

00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.579
Like, you know, like people say, I just it's

00:54:15.579 --> 00:54:17.840
just characters. You know, you go to a prison,

00:54:18.179 --> 00:54:19.460
you're not going to walk in and everyone's go,

00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.000
hey, mate, do you want a cup of tea? No, they're

00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:23.920
like, do you see what I'm saying? So you're going

00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:27.670
to get that. anyone anytime anyone experiences

00:54:27.670 --> 00:54:29.750
something bad is straight away they go to the

00:54:29.750 --> 00:54:33.349
demon and it's like well no it's a bad experience

00:54:33.349 --> 00:54:35.510
but then if you walk into a prison i could have

00:54:35.510 --> 00:54:37.130
a bad experience you could do you know i mean

00:54:37.130 --> 00:54:40.429
it's it's just one of those things so i try and

00:54:40.429 --> 00:54:42.309
treat the same principles i do as a living you

00:54:42.309 --> 00:54:45.909
know just go with the flow and see what happens

00:54:45.909 --> 00:54:50.659
absolutely absolutely Well, man, I can't believe

00:54:50.659 --> 00:54:52.699
that our hour is almost up right now. I can't

00:54:52.699 --> 00:54:55.719
believe it It flew by like every time we talk

00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.280
brother. It flies by I love it. It's wild So

00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:00.940
many things to go into with the paranormal always

00:55:00.940 --> 00:55:02.719
like I said so many aspects of it and you know

00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:05.900
It's always nice to dive into different subjects

00:55:05.900 --> 00:55:07.880
and I mean there's loads more capture to show

00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:09.719
you guys and you know disembodied voices and

00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:11.880
stuff and Obviously that again it could be for

00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:14.980
another show in the future Yeah, no, absolutely

00:55:14.980 --> 00:55:16.900
100 % I was just gonna bring it up to you and

00:55:16.900 --> 00:55:18.949
say we would definitely bring out again because

00:55:18.949 --> 00:55:20.670
there's so much more evidence that I want to

00:55:20.670 --> 00:55:22.690
show of yours because I was going through your

00:55:22.690 --> 00:55:24.550
TikTok last night man and there's some of the

00:55:24.550 --> 00:55:26.909
stuff that's on there is just absolutely incredible

00:55:26.909 --> 00:55:29.489
like absolutely incredible like the one that

00:55:29.489 --> 00:55:31.750
I can't find that I've been dying to find is

00:55:31.750 --> 00:55:34.650
you got caught an apparition in this uh castle

00:55:34.650 --> 00:55:37.570
I believe it was yeah and the one like went through

00:55:37.570 --> 00:55:39.909
the door like or she like opened the door or

00:55:39.909 --> 00:55:41.690
whatever and it was caught on camera like you

00:55:41.690 --> 00:55:43.909
know what I'm talking about right yeah yeah that's

00:55:43.909 --> 00:55:46.349
okay. Did you talk about that one real quick?

00:55:46.429 --> 00:55:48.349
I know we don't have that one to show but can

00:55:48.349 --> 00:55:50.530
you talk about that one real quick? It's like

00:55:50.530 --> 00:55:53.250
you're about the lady that will pass um on the

00:55:53.250 --> 00:55:54.809
victory. Is that the one you're about or you're

00:55:54.809 --> 00:55:57.050
about the yeah, it was a full body apparition.

00:55:57.230 --> 00:55:59.710
Yeah, it was a full body apparition. Yeah. Yeah.

00:55:59.809 --> 00:56:03.309
So, I was on the HMS victory. Um the the staff

00:56:03.309 --> 00:56:04.769
let me in a bit earlier because I said I was

00:56:04.769 --> 00:56:08.090
can I just get a bit of footage record the the

00:56:08.090 --> 00:56:10.130
actual ship itself before the public get on there.

00:56:10.409 --> 00:56:13.309
So and they're all men that worked in there etc.

00:56:13.409 --> 00:56:15.710
So I've gone around just to film it as like a

00:56:15.710 --> 00:56:19.750
little intro and I noticed when I look back on

00:56:19.750 --> 00:56:23.449
my footage this woman and the thing is they wouldn't

00:56:23.449 --> 00:56:26.849
let anyone on the ship now with the clothing

00:56:26.849 --> 00:56:29.809
that she'd wear because it's very low and you've

00:56:29.809 --> 00:56:31.969
got the stairs. They were very small people back

00:56:31.969 --> 00:56:35.989
then so the footwear had to be very specific

00:56:35.989 --> 00:56:39.380
because obviously the flooring is wooden. and

00:56:39.380 --> 00:56:41.639
this woman seems to be hunched over like that

00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:44.139
and just walks over. Now when I've gone back

00:56:44.139 --> 00:56:46.460
to go and recreate this, the lady was walking

00:56:46.460 --> 00:56:50.820
to a dead end. So to nowhere. So I asked the

00:56:50.820 --> 00:56:52.920
staff when I was there, do you have any females

00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.159
at work here? I showed them and they said, no.

00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:57.420
They said, we don't know anyone like that that's

00:56:57.420 --> 00:56:59.820
ever worked here. We have cleaners here sometimes,

00:56:59.900 --> 00:57:02.599
but they leave before, you know, the ship before

00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:05.480
we come in and open to the public. now and they

00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:07.300
said what doesn't make sense is that she's walking

00:57:07.300 --> 00:57:09.059
to the middle of nowhere and they know I came

00:57:09.059 --> 00:57:10.920
in the ship on my own because they allowed me

00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:13.599
to come and do a bit of footage first but obviously

00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:15.940
that that she sort of hunched over like that

00:57:15.940 --> 00:57:18.860
best way to describe it looks quite old and frail

00:57:18.860 --> 00:57:21.519
and just sort of walks across didn't even notice

00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:23.480
at the time to be fair I was too busy panning

00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:25.880
around getting like an intro for the video of

00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:28.599
the ship and I'm like yeah well who the hell

00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.119
was that you know and then Obviously, I've gone

00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:33.440
back since and spoke to the you know and spoke

00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:35.500
to the people there and they even said the same

00:57:35.500 --> 00:57:38.840
we wouldn't allow people on that ship with that

00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.300
sort of footwear especially because but then

00:57:41.300 --> 00:57:44.719
apparently there was I Think it's Lord Nelson

00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.619
I believe it is or something or whoever used

00:57:46.619 --> 00:57:49.320
to live there used to have a lady on the ship

00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:51.920
at the time And she was always well to do well

00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:56.900
dressed. Is it residual? stone -tape theory I

00:57:56.900 --> 00:57:58.679
don't know. It's just one of those that again

00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:02.219
I've had a camera documenting it, and it's there.

00:58:03.219 --> 00:58:06.159
Yeah. No, it's an incredible capture. I mean,

00:58:06.300 --> 00:58:08.219
I'll show it to you, Dave, definitely. If you

00:58:08.219 --> 00:58:09.760
could send it to me after this time, that'd be

00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:15.159
amazing. Yeah. Definitely. We'll put it up on

00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:17.619
the page, too, because it's absolutely incredible.

00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:20.219
It really truly is. Is there any questions you

00:58:20.219 --> 00:58:22.440
want to ask someone before we head out? Not really

00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.039
questions. I just wanted to say that, like, your

00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:28.030
work is really like Don't know it's really kind

00:58:28.030 --> 00:58:30.150
of like I look up to you the work that you've

00:58:30.150 --> 00:58:32.590
done It's very inspirational as an investigator

00:58:32.590 --> 00:58:35.650
because it speaks to the character that you have

00:58:35.650 --> 00:58:38.429
as an investigator Because you have film like

00:58:38.429 --> 00:58:41.750
you've formed like a rapport When you walk into

00:58:41.750 --> 00:58:43.909
a location and you speak to them as if they're

00:58:43.909 --> 00:58:46.809
living that's amazing. I love that You're not

00:58:46.809 --> 00:58:49.349
like provoking them or starting an argument with

00:58:49.349 --> 00:58:51.530
them You're trying to talk to them and open a

00:58:51.530 --> 00:58:53.929
dialogue and you're getting this amazing evidence

00:58:53.929 --> 00:58:56.820
and that's beautiful Yeah, I mean, I mean for

00:58:56.820 --> 00:58:58.500
me, I don't even see it as a job no more It's

00:58:58.500 --> 00:59:00.880
so natural and it's like I don't sound stupid,

00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:03.360
but I believe they're there So I believe that's

00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:06.559
one one of the things that it's got that belief

00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:08.840
and that passion with it I think that helps I

00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:11.179
mean I used to when I was a kid I used to work

00:59:11.179 --> 00:59:12.780
in a care home and I always relate this when

00:59:12.780 --> 00:59:15.320
we go and investigate care homes and nursing

00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.519
homes that I used to go and talk to the ladies

00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:20.239
in there when I was still at school, you know,

00:59:20.260 --> 00:59:22.260
and I used to go there and work in the evenings

00:59:22.260 --> 00:59:24.099
and I used to go and talk to him because You

00:59:24.099 --> 00:59:26.139
know to hear about their stories and stuff. It's

00:59:26.139 --> 00:59:28.380
the same sort of thing. You know, i'm trying

00:59:28.380 --> 00:59:29.960
to give them a voice to hear their story what

00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:33.079
happens And you know, that's that's how I went

00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:35.659
whenever I go to a care i'll relate that to That

00:59:35.659 --> 00:59:37.099
you know I say, you know I used to go and talk

00:59:37.099 --> 00:59:39.059
to ladies and gentlemen and you know in these

00:59:39.059 --> 00:59:41.360
places and and hear their stories, you know What

00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:42.880
happened to you? You know, why are you still

00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.320
here? So for me, I don't see it. It's like a

00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:47.920
It's just normal now. I think it's just become

00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:51.260
so normal that um, yeah, it's just natural. I

00:59:51.260 --> 00:59:53.730
think that's why I would say just yourself and

00:59:53.730 --> 00:59:55.690
the camera. Sometimes it's all you need, you

00:59:55.690 --> 00:59:57.510
know, and and just go with what you feel with

00:59:57.510 --> 01:00:00.530
the location. If it's horrible, sometimes be

01:00:00.530 --> 01:00:01.909
nice because you're still going to get a horrible

01:00:01.909 --> 01:00:03.250
reaction because that person is still going to

01:00:03.250 --> 01:00:05.250
be horrible, but you're still going to get a

01:00:05.250 --> 01:00:08.349
reaction of get out or F or you know, but you

01:00:08.349 --> 01:00:11.190
still got, you know, at least they've actually

01:00:11.190 --> 01:00:13.929
used that energy to say get lost. They want to

01:00:13.929 --> 01:00:16.170
talk to you. It's something, isn't it? I guess.

01:00:17.070 --> 01:00:21.050
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. I totally agree

01:00:21.050 --> 01:00:25.099
with that. At least he did that. Yeah, it's something

01:00:25.099 --> 01:00:27.760
I'd rather get nothing rather than just be quiet

01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:30.079
and think or don't feel nice If they're telling

01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:31.860
me to get lost well, at least I know why it doesn't

01:00:31.860 --> 01:00:33.659
feel so good in there It's like I don't want

01:00:33.659 --> 01:00:36.559
to talk to you So so yeah, it says it's always

01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.000
good to like I say just to have that sort of

01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:40.920
do it for the passion You know forget about the

01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:43.420
YouTube side the Facebook all that monarchy,

01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:45.280
you know when I let go of all that years ago

01:00:45.550 --> 01:00:47.409
That's when things started happening for me.

01:00:47.409 --> 01:00:49.429
It was when I started sort of said, you know

01:00:49.429 --> 01:00:51.769
what? I'm not interested in this no more because

01:00:51.769 --> 01:00:53.650
It's just a platform at the end of the day just

01:00:53.650 --> 01:00:55.329
to put your stuff up and I think once you let

01:00:55.329 --> 01:00:58.110
go of that and deattach from The fact that you

01:00:58.110 --> 01:01:00.389
know, oh I could become a youtuber I could be

01:01:00.389 --> 01:01:02.630
it things become so much more easier because

01:01:02.630 --> 01:01:04.389
you've got nothing to prove to no one, you know,

01:01:04.409 --> 01:01:07.989
you're doing it for yourself Absolutely. Yeah,

01:01:08.250 --> 01:01:11.269
I agree. I agree 100 % you got to do it for the

01:01:11.269 --> 01:01:14.150
passion 100 % You know I see a lot of people

01:01:14.150 --> 01:01:16.070
nowadays that are really getting caught up and

01:01:16.070 --> 01:01:18.010
not doing it for the right reasons And it's sad

01:01:18.010 --> 01:01:20.610
to see because it's leading the path Leading

01:01:20.610 --> 01:01:23.170
the field down a wrong path in certain areas,

01:01:23.610 --> 01:01:25.630
but you know what it's gonna happen No matter

01:01:25.630 --> 01:01:27.690
what and they're just you gotta got a weed through

01:01:27.690 --> 01:01:29.550
the good and the bad and just keep to yourself

01:01:29.550 --> 01:01:31.429
Like me and you do and just do your own thing,

01:01:31.429 --> 01:01:34.750
you know Yeah, unfortunately, it's a lot of it

01:01:34.750 --> 01:01:36.349
to do with that mate. That's what it comes down

01:01:36.349 --> 01:01:39.550
to you know, you know if you're YouTube and stuff

01:01:39.550 --> 01:01:41.960
now and Facebook has become a business, isn't

01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:44.599
it? So it's it's yeah, if you can make money

01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:46.280
out of it, they're going to go to all sorts of

01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:50.099
lengths to try and do so. Absolutely. Absolutely.

01:01:50.739 --> 01:01:52.980
Well, Tony, man, thank you so much. I appreciate

01:01:52.980 --> 01:01:54.980
all your time, brother, that you give me today

01:01:54.980 --> 01:01:57.300
and giving me and Tammy. We really appreciate

01:01:57.300 --> 01:02:00.179
you. Appreciate your work, brother. Always before

01:02:00.179 --> 01:02:03.119
you go, please shout out where people can find

01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:06.119
your stuff at and where they can view more and

01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:09.679
more, you know, real great evidence. I'm on YouTube,

01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:12.340
Facebook, and TikTok. If you type my name in,

01:02:12.340 --> 01:02:14.920
it should come up. Yeah, just to slap yourself

01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:17.119
with what you guys seen, hear, and think. And

01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:19.099
hopefully, encourage you guys to go out there

01:02:19.099 --> 01:02:21.400
and search for yourselves what's out there and

01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:25.019
try a different approach, maybe. Absolutely.

01:02:25.460 --> 01:02:28.059
That was great. Well, hey, Tony, thank you so

01:02:28.059 --> 01:02:29.460
much, brother. It was so great talking to you.

01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:30.880
I hope you have a great rest of your night, my

01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.980
man. I'll talk to you soon, for sure. Yep. Take

01:02:33.980 --> 01:02:41.590
care, guys. See you later. Bye. Bye. So, what

01:02:41.590 --> 01:02:44.730
did you think of today's show? Just literally

01:02:44.730 --> 01:02:46.909
blown away. Like, I have never seen somebody

01:02:46.909 --> 01:02:49.610
have that much visual evidence. That's nothing.

01:02:50.030 --> 01:02:53.429
Just like, like mostly you see stuff that you

01:02:53.429 --> 01:02:55.630
would try to debunk. But the fact that he goes

01:02:55.630 --> 01:02:58.150
in and he tries to recreate it and he talks about

01:02:58.150 --> 01:03:00.710
his recreations and talking with other people

01:03:00.710 --> 01:03:03.289
who had experiences there. I mean, he's doing

01:03:03.289 --> 01:03:05.349
the leg work. I mean, he's doing the work. It's

01:03:05.349 --> 01:03:08.190
beautiful. I loved it. I can't wait to show you

01:03:08.190 --> 01:03:10.909
the video that I asked him to send over the full

01:03:10.909 --> 01:03:12.889
-body operation. I wish we had it for the show,

01:03:13.269 --> 01:03:15.130
but I will make sure to bring it for the next

01:03:15.130 --> 01:03:17.869
show with Tony, because Tony will be back on

01:03:17.869 --> 01:03:20.090
again. But when I show you, you're going to be

01:03:20.090 --> 01:03:22.010
like, what? You're going to be like, oh my gosh,

01:03:22.150 --> 01:03:25.650
because it's a full -body operation. Yeah. Grail.

01:03:26.750 --> 01:03:28.730
Talking about when you can even see her footwear

01:03:28.730 --> 01:03:31.989
or whatever. Yeah, it's wild. It really truly

01:03:31.989 --> 01:03:34.869
is and I can't wait to show you it. But um, yeah,

01:03:34.889 --> 01:03:36.710
it was an amazing show today I'm super proud

01:03:36.710 --> 01:03:39.530
of Tony Tony's a great friend of mine Has been

01:03:39.530 --> 01:03:41.710
for a while and I'm just super proud of all that

01:03:41.710 --> 01:03:43.789
he does everything that he's included in everything

01:03:43.789 --> 01:03:46.630
He's a part of him and his friend that he doesn't

01:03:46.630 --> 01:03:50.469
work with Both two amazing guys. So definitely

01:03:50.469 --> 01:03:53.090
go and check out Tony Ferguson Check out his

01:03:53.090 --> 01:03:56.329
TikTok. Check out his Facebook, his YouTube.

01:03:56.449 --> 01:03:59.409
He's all over all the platforms. Check him out.

01:03:59.409 --> 01:04:01.769
Follow him. Check out some more real evidence

01:04:01.769 --> 01:04:04.730
like you saw today. And thank you guys so much

01:04:04.730 --> 01:04:06.869
for tuning into another episode of Talking with

01:04:06.869 --> 01:04:09.730
the Source. We truly appreciate you and we hope

01:04:09.730 --> 01:04:15.590
that you guys had a great episode. Absolutely.

01:04:16.190 --> 01:04:18.610
Well, until next time. Thank you guys so much.

01:04:18.710 --> 01:04:21.329
My name is AJ Capasso and I'm here with Tammy.

01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:42.920
We'll be. Later, guys. Bye. Now, this is the

01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:45.960
area. where apparently you can hear the whistling

01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:49.699
of Art or Arthur, the man that died of a heart

01:04:49.699 --> 01:04:54.400
attack, constructing this part of the lift locks.

01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:16.719
Did you live here?
