Hey, what's going on everybody? This is AJ Capasso
here from Talking with the Source. I'm here with
my beautiful girlfriend, Tammy. Tammy, how are
you today? Beautiful. Awesome. Awesome. Today,
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awesome that we had on before that you didn't
get to see because you weren't on the show yet.
And I'm super excited to have you a part of it
because Tony has some absolutely amazing evidence
that has been on multiple TV shows. from around
the world. He is from the UK. His name is Tony
Ferguson. I'm gonna bring up the picture right
here real quick before I bring him forward. This
is my buddy Tony Ferguson. He's from the UK.
He's a paranormal researcher and also he just
does this work because he loves it and also he
advocates for locations. so that they don't lose
them over in the UK like we have lost so many
over here so it's it's absolutely amazing but
let me bring my buddy forward this is Tony Ferguson
everybody Tony what's up my brother i can't hear
you can you hear me i can hear you now yeah i
can hear you it went quiet for a second yeah
yeah i heard you all right cool all right my
brother So listen, I want to get right down to
the nitty and gritty right for our viewers I
got a video that I want to put up that we showed
I believe it was last time too But this this
video still has me in all if I can find it right
here. Let me bring it up Um, where is it? Yeah,
this one right here. I believe it is I believe
it's this one it was really heavy down here bear
in mind we're above them on top of the actual
balcony something indeed watch closely as Tony's
camera captures something bizarre a white figure
moving across the room though no one sees it
at the time Tony believes he heard it When the
actual entity walks across the screen you get
this horrific screech I can't even describe what
it sounds like but I heard it when we were in
there and it made my ears literally hurt Yeah
crazy absolutely crazy capture So yeah, I'll
go into a little bit about it. They were doing
a seance below. It was a paranormal event that
we turned up to And I don't participate in seances.
I always like to observe, see what's going on.
And the room felt horrible. I'm not going to
lie. It just felt like there was some really
heavy in there, as I described on the show and
stuff. And as I just said, it was the calm before
the storm. Something's going to happen. Adam
and the group drop to the ground. And then that
apparition just appeared just after in a space
of about a minute and a half. So it was almost
like a build up to a whole sort of Crazy event
we end dragging the guy out of the circle out
of the room because he felt like his body was
being electrocuted so So yeah, it wasn't it was
one of those things I always say things don't
just appear out of nowhere and walk off. Do you
see what I mean? It's like it's one of those
that just sort of paid as you saw Almost teleported
and then just you sort of small little figure
and it made her weird screeching sounds which
yeah Yeah, I I describe it so like you ever seen
the film alien versus predator Dude, I was just
gonna say it looked like an alien to be honest.
A lot of people have said that a lot of people
have said that like it looks like a gray or something
So it's um, it's one of those I always leave
leave out there You decide what you think it
is All I know is that it appeared out of there
in front of the public and everyone in that circle
felt very You know dread dreaded inside. They
said they just felt like I don't know any of
them people that that was the members of the
public And there was skeptics, non -believers
in that circle. And when they saw that after
what they felt, it sort of added up to what was
going on around us. So it pays to have locked
off cameras when you're doing these things. See,
I love that. When you bring people in that are
skeptics or like people that are just new to
this and all of a sudden they have an experience
like that and you capture it on camera. I mean,
dude, that thing looks like an alien. No joke.
It really does. When you look down at it like
the way that it captures at a certain point.
Kind of has like the alien type figure to it.
So it would freak me out if I saw that afterwards
in that or in that building or in that location
And had that happen. I would have been freaked
out. How did you feel? Um, it was like I described
the sound that I heard the rest of them didn't
hear it But i'm quite sensitive to the ears so
I can call out the somebody voices This sounded
different to me. This sounded unworldly and I
actually held my ears when it happened. Um, it
was that almost like a an unbearable sound in
your ear that you can the frequency was so different
to what I normally hear Yeah, how um have you
went back into this place? I filmed there with
sky tv and I filmed the last year of halloween
um for like a halloween special with the news
the news there and we were locked in with some
skeptics and a non -believer who was a reporter
and um She she absolutely cracked herself for
some of the things we caught in the prison because
it's actually a prison That was the chapel of
the prison. Um We again she was hearing disembodied
voice starts calling out and we've called it
on camera and um, yeah Basically everyone we've
gone there with we've had some sort of experience
that we can't explain Wow. All right guys. Hold
on one sec. I gotta play this one more time Tony
Let me play it one more time for everybody. Yeah,
certainly something indeed watch closely as Tony's
camera captures something bizarre a white figure
moving across the room though no one sees it
at the time Tony believes he heard it when the
actual entity walks across the screen he gets
horrific screech I can't even describe what it
sounds like, but I heard it when we were in there,
and it made my ears literally hurt. God, man.
It definitely looks like it's an alien. Yeah,
I've had a mixed bag with the paranormal community.
A lot of people say it looks like a child, but
I'm like, well, his eyes are massive and his
head's massive. It looks like it's got a weird
shaped head. And yeah, it's just been a mixed
bag of what people think it is. I mean, for me,
hearing that sound and being in there, I mean,
it was coming towards us. We were on the balcony,
and I just felt that presence come towards us
when it happened. And that's why I said it was
the calm before the storm. It was almost someone
was warning me that something here is not good.
And I always had that intuition, so. Absolutely,
absolutely. Have there been other experiences
similar to that, at that location? People have
always had experiences there in that area people
say they feel uncomfortable I mean, it's like
I always say a lot of these things that happen
a lot of people don't document on camera So it's
personal experiences, you know that a lot of
people say they felt heavy in there and stuff
But there could be just be things that happen
in the people are not realizing around them which
is which is why we say have a lot of camera with
you at all times, you know document these things
because In that particular area a lot of people
say that you know, it just doesn't feel nice
even though it's a chapel area um and the whole
prison doesn't feel good to be fair but then
most prisons don't because it holds a lot of
trauma and negativity so so yeah it's definitely
one of those that are interesting absolutely
absolutely man Well, dude, I tell you what you
have some awesome evidence you sent over to us
I want to keep going here because there's a lot
that I want to show people so Let's go on to
the next video real quick. I'll let you explain
it right afterwards But let me show it and we'll
see what's up. So it's about a two minute clip.
So here we go This is a quick capture of basically
a mist that just literally comes out of nowhere.
It shoots really fast Towards the left -hand
side and it just seems to stop and hover in front
of the camera Now we actually saw this to the
naked eye and wasn't aware that we caught it
on camera at the time. It just looked like a
big mass, just sort of like horror and then just
disappears. So it's a really bizarre capture
and the fact that we both saw it at the same
time to the naked eye is amazing. So I thought
I would just share it with you. Leave a comment
below and let me know what you think. It's a
really weird one because it's coming out with
a lot of force and it just seems to sort of shape
shift and become this massive mass. Really weird
with capture, but there's a full video to come
a few more captures that were caught in there
really really Haunted cave a lot going on in
there a hell of a lot We're glad to get out of
there, but thanks for watching Let us know what
you think in the comment section and I'll speak
to you all soon. Take care guys. Bye Oh Hello
that appeared right in front the camera Toad.
Woah. I love it. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's
almost great. It's just like, you know, I love
it. It makes it sound great, brother. But tell
me, dude, where was that at? What was it like
for you there? Everything talked to us. Yeah,
so that was a con glaze cabin. It was a cave.
They used to have smugglers of children working
down that we caught a few children's voices down
there as well. Before we caught that again, there's
no reason to be hearing children down there because
it's a locked off cave and we had access to ourselves.
That was just basically us just walking around.
Again, it was quite warm in there. I was wearing
sort of summer clothes because it was quite humid.
There was no I always look for breaths and stuff
like it could be a breath that's doing that.
But obviously, Bed was behind me. I was in front
this seemed to come from the side and then stop
change direction and hover You know, I tried
to recreate that I was there I couldn't so and
I couldn't even make a breath when I was there
because it was quite warm in there because it
was summertime when we went in there so it's
one of those that With all the disembodied voices
we caught in there some saying get out from a
male standard and Also some children's voices.
It was just one of those that just sort of added
to the night I guess but yeah it is what it is
i mean people can decide what they want for themselves
and we saw that to the eye um didn't realize
it came out on camera but luckily it did nice
amazing catch it really is yeah so what we're
going to do to me i'm going to show one more
time for everybody so they can get another view
at it so check this out it happened real quick
and then uh basically he goes back and he does
it slow mo so check this out guys This is a quick
capture of basically a mist that just literally
comes out of nowhere. It shoots really fast towards
the left -hand side and it just seems to stop
and then hover in front of the camera. Now we
actually saw this to the naked eye and wasn't
aware that we caught it on camera at the time.
It just looked like a big mass, just sort of
like hovering and then just disappears. So it's
a really bizarre capture and the fact that we
both saw it at the same time to the naked eye
is amazing. So I thought I would just share it
with you. Leave a comment below and let me know
what you think. It's a really weird one because
it's coming up with a lot of force and it just
seems to sort of shape shift and becomes this
massive mass. Really weird, weird capture but
there's a full video to come with a few more
captures that were caught in there. Really, really
haunted cave. A lot going on in there. A hell
of a lot. We're glad to get out of there but
thanks for watching. Let us know what you think
in the comment section and I'll speak to you
all soon. Take care guys. Bye! what's that oh
hello that appeared right in front of the camera
oh hello so yeah man that was absolutely awesome
man that that capture right there now tell me
were you feeling something before you saw that
or was it just like you just saw like you said
and then that was you know basically you just
thought maybe it might have had a breath at first
but tell me do you feel anything in that area
yeah it's one of the reasons why we Mainly sort
of we're in that area. We kept on hearing children's
voices. Uh, we call one saying hello Like a very
young child going Hello, um a couple of times
we're in there and we call that on camera So
we spent a bit of time in around that area whether
that was a child I don't know sort of making
itself sort of, you know appear to us in some
sort of form Um, it didn't feel threatening.
Um, so that was a good thing But you know, um
all the way around you just felt like there was
someone trying to get her attention. So So yeah,
it wasn't one of the worst places we've been
to, but there were certainly a lot of things
going on that we couldn't explain and the fact
that we were sort of underground as well. It's
like an underground cavern. You've got no external
voices from outside or things that can interfere.
We left there with so many things on camera that
we couldn't explain. Finding children's voices
down in a cavern or a cave, that's beyond me.
Unfortunately, in the UK, it was very well known
with a lot of the sort of cave systems and they
got them to work down there. And I found quite
a lot of caves that we have done with experiment
with a parapsychologist that walkie hole caves.
And we were locked down with him, just us. And
we asked the question, is there any reason to
be hearing any external voices? You're that far
on the ground, et cetera. And he said, no. And
we caught the same with him. Kids' voices, disembodied
voices saying, get out. um a male voice a couple
of times down there so a lot of things a lot
of things have happened in these caves especially
the children where obviously in history they
don't talk about it wow see i never knew that
i never knew that they had the kids working down
on the caves over there mines caves anything
that the kids did all the work and unfortunately
a lot of those that did die um it wasn't reported
or it was kept hush hush kind of thing so that
you know they didn't shut them down kind of thing
so absolutely well I tell you what man that is
an absolutely amazing capture um this next capture
that you got was we're gonna talk a little bit
about it for a second because I know this one
is when I believe it's the jail cell door it
closes when you guys aren't around yeah absolutely
awesome capture I'm gonna show right now but
um you want to talk about it after you want to
talk about it before what would you prefer it's
up to you I'll go for it quickly so that people
can sort of see what they're looking for So basically
we left a locked off camera We went to this for
etc and they had a prison room and they kept
on saying that this door kept on shutting its
own They couldn't you know find an external source
for it So I said if you ever left a locked off
camera there, you know And just just see what
happens because if it keeps happening regularly,
it could be something that doesn't like the door
being open So I did a little experiment with
a fellow investigator Paul to sell on these doggles
with us at the time in the summer. So it was
a nice calm day. We left the locked off camera
there, pulled the whole cell door right back
to the wall, tested it just to see if it sort
of could move on its own or whatever, but it
was solid to the back wall. There's also a very
thin wooden door at the back behind it. We should
look out for that because again, if the wind
was blowing this way, it would be shutting the
cell door. which again it was on the TV show
recently and a parapsychologist did point that
out that you know if it was something to do with
that then you know it would be wind coming from
that direction goes that way so we tried to sort
of look for different explanations to what could
cause it but one of those that I just don't think
whoever's there likes a door being open Paul's
dog Sam actually led us to the door because he
had to bang because we were outside at the time
he came running to the door so again Dogs are
quite sensitive. It was quite a what I call a
Capture again. It's it's it's natural, you know,
it's one of those that we've just gone to it
all the door shut didn't know until when we look
back on the footage how it closed and We know
sorry you guys are watching to watch now That's
awesome. All right, let me bring it forward Is
an experienced paranormal investigator and he's
also a medium. Having watched some of his footage,
seen the stuff that he captures on camera, I
think he's brilliant. When I know that he's referred
to as the ghost whisperer, immediately that brings
up a perception of somebody that is experienced
at investigating, but also somebody who very
much takes the spiritual approach to investigation
rather than the scientific side. Tony has got
a history there of investigating the paranormal.
and documenting this all on video. He's got a
YouTube channel, lots of different videos on
there, and clips that are sometimes quite interesting.
Well, I've been lucky enough to be a paranormal
investigator and pretty much go around all the
most haunted locations in the UK. Before Gilgiger,
I was with a fellow investigator called Paul
Cecile, and he had his company by his little
dog, Sam, and a lot of reports are of poltergeist
activity within the building. And I thought to
myself then, why has nobody ever put a locked
off camera on this door? We went off and basically
started investigating another part of the actual
location. Believe it or not, the dog Sam actually
heard the bang. He came running towards the door.
We followed him, came back to find the door shut.
Looking back on the footage, the wooden door
on the back wasn't moving. The steel door was
very heavy. I believe there's a prison guard
that walks in and out that corridor that doesn't
like that door being open. It was almost like
a caretaker walking by thinking that door should
be open and closing it. A prison room would be
shut, so why is it open? And they've shut it.
It was just a case of you were just seeing a
reenactment of what they would do in their time.
I always say leave locked off cameras everywhere
because sometimes it's not when it's always around
you, it's when you're not around it happens.
The only logical explanation is that it was kind
of unhinged, unbalanced and it, you know, naturally
closed on its own. But the two investigators
walk away having propped it open and that camera's
locked off. There was no one there. You couldn't
see any wires, cables and the door closes by
itself. I believe that it could be a spirit.
When I watched that footage for the first time,
I was... We're genuinely impressed by it. We've
got a static camera. We've got enough movement
of the two investigators to show that there was
nobody behind that door that could have caused
it to move. So very impressed. So yeah. Well,
that's Dr. Keenan O 'Keefe, who actually was
on our show. He's a good friend of ours. And
I tell you, man, he's a great parapsychologist.
So to hear him, you know, actually get to comment
on a lot of your stuff, which I've got to see.
It's been really awesome to see him do that.
I'd love to get both of you on the show one day.
That would be absolutely awesome. I'm one of
those. I love to talk about anything paranormal,
whether it's on the sort of skeptic side or the
open side. I mean, I've been lucky enough to
work with a few parapsychologists doing this.
So yeah, it's always interesting to hear different
theories and stuff. But yeah, the other thing
people need to realize is what I always try and
do on the camera is I always leave a time and
date below it. Because again, For me it's it's
important because then you guys can see that
it's not been altered or um, you know, because
a lot of people could easy do cgi Which is that
thing that a lot of people like doing now? So
I always like to leave a time and date on on
the bottom of all my videos so that people can
see You're watching it in real time in a sense
because you can see the time you can see the
date and for me It's just you know, just better
that way. I guess as an investigator One thing
that I can say to our viewers is that if you
ever come across tony's, you know tony's stuff
Which I would love for everyone to go and follow
him and uh become a subscriber as well um because
he does it in a fashion of it's live it's raw
it's uncut type of of editing it's not like editing
where someone's going in and editing little tiny
pieces of stuff no if he's editing something
it's just a replay to show you exactly what part
he caught like we were just showing you stuff
like that but it wasn't you know he doesn't go
back everything is live it's raw it's just it's
very you know to some people it may be boring
because in the beginning they gotta wait a little
bit to get to the action part you know what i
mean so you know to some people may be like that
boring sense but if you really love true true
real evidence telling you tony's a person to
follow because his stuff is absolutely amazing
so tony thank you i mean so much for coming on
again and showing us these clips we got a ton
more to go through but uh so far man it's just
been so awesome to get to talk to you again how
is how's it been going like what's been going
on in your life uh with the investigating everything
with the buildings that you've been trying to
save and stuff how how has that been working
out so yeah so when i last spoke to you shet
and mullet was looking to close down um i went
to the media etc and spoke to them about the
you know how how important is for the uk as well
as the paranormal that's been saved which is
brilliant um they've managed to sort of like
I don't know how they've done it, but they have.
So whatever way they've done it, it's good. I
think enough people spoke about it and that's
what's important. I took a little break over
last year over Christmas due to moving and stuff.
And yeah, and then basically got back into it
and started investigating solidly again. And
I did the media thing with the Sun News, which
was at Shetland Mallet just after. Which it was
a lady. It was a skeptic and also and funny enough
the camera guy didn't believe in the paranormal
he left Halfway through he was filming it for
the Sun newspaper and stuff and he left and I
ended up recording the whole thing because he
saw a door open its own I didn't see it he did
and it freaked him out he left So it's like yeah,
it was one of those that's a weird one and since
that I've done a few TV show interviews and stuff
a few podcasts radio -wise, and location -wise,
I've just been meeting people in the Paranormal
this year, really, and sort of collabing with
people that I think are genuine, and, you know,
just sort of showing them a different approach
to the Paranormal, and taking them to some good
locations, and, yeah, it's been a really interesting
year. Different, but interesting. Yeah. No, hey,
I feel you, man. I completely feel you. That
is awesome, man. I'm so happy for you, dude,
because, you know, this type of evidence needs
to get out more. It needs to be shown more to
people. And that's the reason why I do this.
I try to, you know, show people's evidence from
around the world because, you know, there is
something more to more than us and more than
more to us and more than this. So, you know,
I think it's very important. Yeah, 100 percent.
I agree. So here we go. I'm going to show this
clip. I'll end up stopping in between because
it's like a 10 minute clip, but there's a certain
part that I did want to show, so I'm going to
let it play and we'll talk a little bit about
the section. Can you move the beads please? Come
towards the beads and move the beads please.
Any children? That's all of her. That's me. If
there's any children here, can you make a massive
banging noise please? Can you bang to show us
where you are? So. Right there, man. That was
the part right there that I just was like, oh
my god, you were standing right next to a dude.
What did you think? What did you feel? Well,
I actually heard because where we were at the
time, I had someone walking down the stairs.
Now, we were there in the daytime. It's actually
like a man of farm. Uh it's like an old farmhouse
and um I had someone walking downstairs. I sort
of pointed upstairs like this walking above us.
And as that happened, there's actually a weight
holding that door. You can see it move across
the floor. So I've been back with a team a couple
of years later after the show, and they're like,
bloody hell, how did it move that? So it's one
of those where, you know, we were there in the
daytime, there was a few things that we caught
there. We've been back recently at night as well,
and we caught children's voices there. It was
believed it was a children's school, but again,
I found out since it wasn't, they've created
it as that. But even so, we still caught children's
voices in there. And obviously with the whole
wait thing, moving the door, I just, you know,
I just, to be fair, my reaction was almost like,
you know, what the hell just happened? Because
I was laughing because for me, it was like, you
know, it was still daytime. I wasn't expecting
it. I heard footsteps above. I heard this dragon
sound behind me. I've turned around. It's like,
what the, you know, kind of thing. So it was
one of those. I just, I just looked at the time
and thought, hmm, interesting. But when I tried
to recreate and I was there, I would have had
to push it with some force. We stayed there an
hour or two after, just to see if it could be
wind. But then wind wouldn't be able to move
that because it's got a weight on the door. There
was a little bit of a blow breeze in there in
general because the door was open. But again,
it never happened again. So it's just one of
those that... Hi John, hope you're well. Sorry,
it's Lindsay. Hi Lindsay, hope you're well. I
should have spoke to you earlier on. it's one
of those that um yeah I just you know I just
I look back on the thing that was at the very
start of my journey so you know it's um always
an amazing capture because I didn't expect much
because one it being daytime it's one of the
things I used to get criticized for when I first
started this why does he always capture capture
stuff in the daytime why does he go out investigate
in the daytime that most of my experiences as
a kid were in the daytime so you know for me
seeing a figure in my grandmother's house on
a daytime logically in my brain it's like well
you know why does it have to be at night you
know so just because it gets dark doesn't mean
to say they're not active in a daytime so I wanted
to start out when I first do this in the daytime
to see what I capture and you know I've been
lucky enough to capture some things that can't
be explained or again it's just having cameras
and and just making sure you've got a couple
of cameras around you so you've got everything
covered so you can see what's going on yeah no
absolutely Well, I mean, what you're saying about
daytime and nighttime, I mean, paranormal activity
is going to happen no matter what time of day
it is. If it's going to happen, it'll happen.
I had a lot of experiences in the daytime myself.
Yeah. No, I agree. And unfortunately, when I
first started, it was a bit of a... you know,
because I was capturing stuff, people were like,
Oh, you know, it's you can't do it in the daytime.
It's, you know, it's against not against the
paranormal or kind of thing. But, you know, it's
just one of those things that for me is a personal
journey. So, you know, everyone's got to do it
for their own reasons. And, and try not to listen
to the noise is what I say, because unfortunately,
you're always gonna get people that are going
to criticize, but at the same point, you just
got to look, look past that and say, that's fine.
That's your opinion and move on. Exactly. exactly
you have to do that because you want to know
what you can't give anyone else that type of
uh energy you know no not at all so let me show
it one more time but this thing is awesome man
such a great capture here we go Any children
here, can you make a massive banging noise please?
Can you bang them to show us where you are? That's
a dog. Man, that'll never get old man. Okay,
um, like I said my reaction itself is like I
just sometimes because I got ADHD So I always
think that just heightens things in general and
I try a lot a lot of things that happen now that
apparently because it's almost like a Reaction,
I can't believe it just happens. It's almost
like a I don't know defense mechanisms like shit,
you know, that's that's mad, you know and rather
than you know in a way kind of I think sometimes
when I've worked with people in the past where
we've met them in the public and stuff and you've
missed the evidence by the time you screamed
and bloody ran off and stuff. I'm not like that
because I've experienced so much from a young
age. It just becomes more natural. So it's probably
a better thing really on camera than obviously
running off and scare jumping. I think it's great
that you don't run from it. As an investigator,
you're asking for something and then you're getting
it and you're not running from it. No, exactly.
I mean to be fair the banging sound to me behind
I didn't even realize the door shot. It was like
it's only two I turned around I was like, you
know, but it was quite loud. I mean the cameras
picked up on that I could hear the weight being
dragged at the time as well But obviously it
happens quickly as it always does and also I
didn't get to see the full motion whereas Bev
could see behind because she was filming at the
camera just go and Then the door just go bang
and the weight moved across the room behind my
back as they say, but it is what it is. Yeah,
no, that's that. I'm telling you that that's
such a great capture. 100 % such a great capture.
I think that you explained that it was a weight
because when I first saw it, I heard the noise
and I was like, what was that? Yes, it's almost
like a I don't know. It's it's it's got to look
at doors. I don't know how much it weighs. It's
quite heavy. I mean, I go to the gym one time.
So I picked up and thought, well, you know, it's
hard, you know, heavy enough to hold that door.
And if it was wind, they wouldn't move it, you
know, it's there for a purpose to stop the door
from closing on people because it is a daytime
place for people to go and, you know, visit,
etc. So it would have been heavy enough to, you
know, not slam on people. That's that's why I
was brought up to people. I was it wouldn't be
there. I mean, you know, we were there for a
good couple hours after and it never did it again.
Didn't do it before. You know, that was sort
of in between the investigation. And yeah. So
it's just one of those that No one's ever reported
it happening again. So, you know if they have
i've not seen it So it's just one of those that's
happened. I guess I did it on your request too,
which was amazing Yeah, I mean you'll see me
point upstairs. I could hear like a walk But
I just thought that was banging the sound at
the top like someone walking down the stairs
at the time and um, that's why I point out like
I just heard something and then then That straight
after so Did I just hear someone walk down and
did someone shut the door just behind me? I don't
know. All I know is it's just one of those that
happened. Imagine you got a ghost and he's just
sitting there and he's just like, this guy is
just annoying the piss out of me right now, you
know? He's like sitting at the door on you, you
know? It could well be. I mean, the amount of
locations I get to when I go to sort of forts
and prisons, saying get out and stuff. But then
I hear it on a lot of people's videos. even people
that say they don't capture stuff, I watch them
and think they just call to get out there and
it's quite, it's quite regularly because you've
got people there that are very territorial and
you know, they're almost like top dog kind of
thing, you know, especially in prisons and forts
and stuff, you know, they're very much like you
shouldn't be here, get out, you know, and authority
kind of thing. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.
All right. This next video that you're going
to show us. I'm going to let you speak on it
afterwards because I haven't got to watch this
one yet, so I'm excited to check this out. Here
we go. So yeah, so I don't I don't believe in
apps. This was an app called spirit talker. It's
not I don't believe in I've caught disembodied
voices responding to apps. But I don't really
use apps as a as a, you know, a goal. So Emily
was using the spirit talker app. And I had a
little child's voice go Thomas just before. Now
as I called it out, the app said it straight
after. So I can't explain that because whether
it's recording my more voice on their app or
whatever because i've never used it as such before
you know we started using it on and it was in
an asylum now if you listen carefully just after
i said that you can actually hear a child's voice
there uh going me really yeah sir if you listen
to it you'd like a me um almost like agreeing
that you know uh because obviously there's two
females there emily and debbie but that kind
of just acknowledged it but there's a little
voice going me you'll hear it if you listen to
it again Oh, let's check this out one more time.
Hold on one sec. I felt like someone hung himself.
Is there a little child here called Thomas? Thomas?
Oh no. You are a joke. You're completely kidding
me. Hi Thomas. You said that before the app.
So, yeah, it's after Emily says you've got to
be kidding me. That's like a female little child
talking over. I'm like, me. Yeah, you know, I
didn't get, I didn't hear it a little bit. It's
hard because I don't have my headphones on but
yeah, I did hear it a little bit. It's crazy
though when you get the promise right after you
set it though through that, through the app because
it's like You know i i'm the same way as you
i'm very skeptical with obviously apps so like
i really will go through the app turn it on and
like listen to the app to make sure what things
are you know sounds and what really are if i'm
going to use an app to try and test it out because
i i have a hard time just because i don't know
who is creating the app and if they are creating
the app i don't know them personally enough to
know if they're really trying to like you know
fake some stuff you know what i mean so it's
kind of hard for me but even on fake apps I've
actually gotten responses so there has to be
some way for the frequency or vibration or whatever
that these apps this phone or whatever the devices
give off that these spirits can manipulate in
some sort of way to be able to communicate to
us through so yeah I mean I think for me uh because
because obviously where I'm capturing these disembodied
voices I've I've a couple of times when these
apps have said words I'm like you just got response
there from a disembodied voice saying responding
like yet or whatever so sometimes there could
be words in these banks that are coming out where
the Spirits there that were actually acknowledging
it's like that makes sense to me like when we
ask questions, you know It's you we always ask
several questions because I always believe if
you throw the right question out they're going
to use that energy to Contact you whereas if
you just keep saying move this touch that they're
like not not interested But if you ask questions
about them happen to them you know it's the same
principle if an app comes out with a word like
he died here or she died here or murder and then
like yes and you get a disembodied voice going
yes i did or something like that i've had things
like that before what's happened i find that
interesting because there's a yeah that spirit
is here in that app for its frequency so it obviously
can hear it like you can hear us so i do find
that interesting yeah absolutely man absolutely
i mean i don't know if i ever told you about
the time when i had my near -death experience
but I think I'm not sure I'm pretty sure we talked
about it but if we didn't it was weird for me
because I was able to hear and see everything
when I was staring at my body when I was outside
my body like no problem like and like I was telling
everybody I could be over the person's shoulder
on the left the paramedic on the left in his
thoughts same thing on the right side with that
paramedic at the same time simultaneously all
at once understanding everything individually.
So it's just so crazy to like You know here,
you know to think about what they can do with
you know abscesses like that because I felt completely
invincible and instructable obviously as Outside
of my body, you know what I mean? Yeah astral
projection has the same sort of principle, you
know, like I've done it a couple of times and
you know, it's You can I I do believe if you
do it and you conquer it You can you come back
and you learn things from that side. You bring
it back to you to this side because obviously
when you do astral projection like you just said
there with the near -death experience you hear
and see things so clearly because you haven't
got this 3d form body you're you know you're
not a physical sense you're you're a light being
so you know you bring that back with you each
time you go and do it it's like a bit like like
a school lesson you know you you come back and
you come back and you're more sort of like intuitive
what's around you because you're used to that
frequency you know it's coming back to you whereas
a lot of people I mean, my mama had a near -death
experience, and she actually floated above her
body. She was dead for a fair few minutes. She
watched the whole procedure, and she told the
doctors, you know, you shouldn't be poking tongues,
poking a spoon in people's mouths if they're
having a fit. The lady looked, like, how do you
know that? Because you were dead. I hear so many
stories doing this. People, they tell me, et
cetera. So there's something in it. there is.
And obviously, like you said, these things are
around us. I just think that we've lost that
ability because of technology, you know, it's
always been within us to tune into it. But unfortunately,
we're surrounded by technology. And I think if
you separate yourself from it, you know, and
have a bit of both, then you know, you can sort
of tune in and then tune out like I do. Yeah,
yeah, it's a it's a distraction. Definitely,
for sure. For sure. One thing that we have never
really talked about me and you, man, and I always
wanted to talk about it was your medium abilities.
When about did you figure out that you were a
medium? And when did you, you know, when did
you start actually like, you know, doing, you
know, medium type work? So I don't believe in
the word medium or psychic. I believe that we've
all got that ability. I hate it because I think
that that separates us all as human beings because
no, absolutely. Yeah, everyone's got that with
them. I don't do mediumship workers as a whole,
like give people reading and stuff. What I do
is I just document what I capture on locations,
put it up there. And when I work with people,
I try and get them to see a different way, a
different way of working. And most people that
do me, they end up working in that role. They
go on investigations and they start hearing things
that they didn't before. It's almost like a different
way of working. You know, that's why I would
say the the mediumship is to me and also the
psychic ability stuff. It's it's nonsense because
we've all got it It's just a case again. Some
people have favored how to use it Some people
always had it and you know, and I just don't
like the terms because I think it separates source
as individuals You know, you could do it. I agree
All three of us could do it. It's just a case
of um Getting back to that, you know getting
back to basics starting again and learning how
to use it I agree 100%. I believe that uh you're
absolutely right. I believe it's dormant inside
all of us and it's like a muscle and you kind
of have to work that muscle. You know what I'm
saying a little bit to get it going and and then
it starts going but you know, it's a really truly
fully control it. Obviously, you really have
to really work at that and I find that so fascinating
that we all have this ability inside of us and
if we all just believe that understood that the
things that we are capable of would be Yeah,
I mean if you've had a parallel experience you're
a medium because you've experienced you sense
that you've picked up on it You've seen it. You've
heard it. Well, therefore, you know, you're you
that's that's my whole point So everyone that's
having the experience you can class yourself
as a medium because you've already experienced
something that's phenomenal or you can't explain
You know and you're tuning into a different frequency
and you're seeing something or hearing something
or picking up something that others ain't so
You know it to me. It's just just a case of separating
yourself from words and meanings in this in this
world and you know and just looking at you know
what we've all got a gift. It's just tuning them
back into it going back to the old school and
um asking the right questions. Yeah. Absolutely.
Absolutely. I tell you what, man. You said you've
traveled, right? Um yeah. I want to actually
ask you, have you done that two days before?
Um no, I actually have not. They haven't done
that. Okay. So, I've traveled myself. What was
your If you want me to be honest to you, it's,
I always say like, you know, what so so that's
so close up above kind of thing, you know, you've
got good and bad. You know, people make it mean
when I do paranormal investigations, you get
you get people that swear to somebody was swearing
this that the other, you know, it's no different.
You know, you don't just suddenly leave your
physical body and everything's like love and
light. It's not you've got good and bad up above.
So you know, same thing down here. I don't I
don't believe in no heaven sort of stuff because
obviously I believe that once we leave here We've
got choices and I think we need to make the right
choices and I you know, that's something that's
a longer story You know, obviously I think if
you look at deep down on this earth in general
it's quite a barbaric place and you know, there's
a lot of trauma a lot of suffering and you know
and Personally the reincarnation sort of thing.
I think why would you want to come back here
because you know, you can come back and do all
that again. I thought, you know, to me, that
seems a bit more of a trap. But again, that's
going into something completely different and
another show maybe. But yeah, there was some
positive stuff there, 100%. But there was also
stuff there, like, you know, you used to think,
hang on, this is a bit weird, you know, a bit
trippy. And, you know, but people wouldn't, wouldn't
sort of understand it, because unless you've
actually been there, and, you know, I didn't
need no drugs for this, it's all done from meditation
and using frequencies and stuff. then, you know,
it's hard to explain. But like you just said,
you hear things and see things so much clearer,
you know, everything feels lighter, you're aware
of your awareness is, you know, it's, you can't
even describe it, the human being, it's just,
it's, you know, imaginable, it's just crazy.
But then it also explore about powerful. So if
you're a negative person, you could potentially
put yourself in a negative position. Whereas
if you're a positive person, you know, it's all
power of thought. So therefore I wouldn't advise
doing it if you're in a negative place because
potentially, you know, you could put yourself
in that place. So again, it's all to do with
the, you know, how you're feeling in general
and, you know, letting go of the trauma on this
side. And then when, when you're on the other
side, things would be much more an easier ride.
Absolutely. Absolutely, man. Absolutely. Do you
have any questions for me? No, I, I've always
been afraid of astral travel, honestly. Yeah
I've never well when I first heard about it.
I was like hmm Yeah, you know like did I believe
it first because again when I first started all
this or because of my childhood experience I
was trying to poopoo a lot of things and say
yeah, it just could be me as a child But you
know at first I thought it probably wouldn't
happen. You know I spanked my brother about he
said he did it a couple of times and I tried
it and I thought well there were things that
happen that I can't explain And, you know, it
did, it did sort of scare me when it did happen,
because I was like, when you when it first did
happen, I was like, my, this is it, if I, how
do I get back into my body? But again, it's all
powerful. It's like, you know, you just got to
learn to sort of switch off, because we don't,
again, our brains almost off page, you got one
side, it's negative ones, telling you the positive
ones tell you negative, you know, unfortunately,
that's the way it is. But you don't have that
on that side. So then your full process is your
own full process. so that's where you let go
of the attachments of the physical and you know
and see things differently you know because everything
here is materialistic on that side it's not everything
is you so therefore what you think is where you
work you know if you want to go back into your
body you say it yourself you're back in if you
want to go somewhere you say it yourself you're
there um yeah obviously you just got to de -attach
from from the physical and anything that's got
you know any trauma and stuff otherwise you could
potentially put yourself in that trauma for that
small amount of time That's that's exactly why
I have never attempted because I didn't feel
like I personally was like Full or strong enough
to be able to handle that at this point. Yeah,
so I have a lot of work I would have to do before
I would even attempt something like that No,
I agree. It's the same with the paranormal investigations,
you know, sometimes if you're in a bad place
I wouldn't advise people to go there because
you're gonna you're gonna draw in that that you
know that negative side or something's going
to feed off that, you know, and this is why I
say about the good and the bad, you know, you've
got things that love to feed off our energy on
this planet, as they do in, you know, in their
etc. Not everything's good. But at the same point,
not everything's bad. So you just got to know,
work with, you know, work with what you feel.
And that's why on investigations, I will say
to people, you know, if you see someone in the
street and their vibes are bad, yeah, a lot of
people say it's an investigation. So I don't
feel right around me. It feels horrible. go by
that instinct what you would do in the street
there's a reason why it doesn't feel good because
there's something there that doesn't feel good
around your energy and that's your energy telling
you no you know get away kind of thing i don't
want to be near this and it's the same that's
the same vibe when you see someone in the street
and you think he gives me the creeps or she gives
me the creeps or something that's a bit off about
them you know it's the same same sort of pattern
you just got to go by your instincts your energy
what's telling you you know go with the go with
them sometimes because it is it's there for a
reason Right, exactly. Absolutely. I think it's
absolutely amazing. My one experience I had was
very jaw -dropping for me, and I hope that I
have another one, but I don't try to force them
on, but if it happens, it happens, you know?
Yeah, just let it natural, man. It's always the
best way, because like you say, you'll be ready.
When you're ready, you're ready. That's what
I always say. Yeah. Okay, so here's one of the
last videos that we have. I want to show this
video real quick, and then you can talk about
it. Yeah. Wow! Yeah, this is quite an interesting
one because we were given permission by the Skirrid
Inn, the lovely owners, it's quite a well -known
pub in Wales and the UK and they shut the pub
early for us actually to go and document some
evidence there and we left several locked off
cameras there, they left the pub which was once
a prison and where we were it was actually like
a court where they used to send all the people
for hangings which were down below. And I left
a locked off camera there. Me and Bev went into
the other room. There's three rooms there to
go and set up another locked off camera. You
can hear us talking. And it sounds like something
knocking the camera down and then dragging it
across the table. I didn't know until probably
about an hour after what happened because it
was like the camera's down. So obviously for
me, I just thought, oh, it just fell down because
I didn't remember which position I put it in.
Um, and literally as I've watched back on the
footage, um, you can just hear like dragging
across the table is if someone didn't want us
to film there. Now, when we were there, we caught
a couple of disembodied voices. Um, again, it's
the pub in itself, not attached to anything.
It's in the middle of nowhere in Wales. Um, and
yeah, we caught a woman's voice saying my name
going Tony. That was caught on camera. And then
some footsteps just before walking upstairs.
Now I get my name called out quite a lot on locations.
and I usually notice when that happens something
bad's coming around like we start hearing something
or the energy changes almost like there's a warning
that something's coming and I usually call out
call out on camera going someone just said my
name um so that for me now I get what that's
about it's almost a case of keep your guard up
um something something you know not so nice is
coming in and that's that's cool you've gotten
that that's really awesome that you've been able
to interpret that in that way you know yeah Well,
it's happened so many times and obviously where
we go to quite a lot of traumatic places like
forts and and prisons and stuff, you know, and
even sometimes asylums and hospitals. You know,
you go to these places and you don't know what
you're going to encounter. And unfortunately,
it's not all pleasant, but it's not all demonic.
Like, you know, like people say, I just it's
just characters. You know, you go to a prison,
you're not going to walk in and everyone's go,
hey, mate, do you want a cup of tea? No, they're
like, do you see what I'm saying? So you're going
to get that. anyone anytime anyone experiences
something bad is straight away they go to the
demon and it's like well no it's a bad experience
but then if you walk into a prison i could have
a bad experience you could do you know i mean
it's it's just one of those things so i try and
treat the same principles i do as a living you
know just go with the flow and see what happens
absolutely absolutely Well, man, I can't believe
that our hour is almost up right now. I can't
believe it It flew by like every time we talk
brother. It flies by I love it. It's wild So
many things to go into with the paranormal always
like I said so many aspects of it and you know
It's always nice to dive into different subjects
and I mean there's loads more capture to show
you guys and you know disembodied voices and
stuff and Obviously that again it could be for
another show in the future Yeah, no, absolutely
100 % I was just gonna bring it up to you and
say we would definitely bring out again because
there's so much more evidence that I want to
show of yours because I was going through your
TikTok last night man and there's some of the
stuff that's on there is just absolutely incredible
like absolutely incredible like the one that
I can't find that I've been dying to find is
you got caught an apparition in this uh castle
I believe it was yeah and the one like went through
the door like or she like opened the door or
whatever and it was caught on camera like you
know what I'm talking about right yeah yeah that's
okay. Did you talk about that one real quick?
I know we don't have that one to show but can
you talk about that one real quick? It's like
you're about the lady that will pass um on the
victory. Is that the one you're about or you're
about the yeah, it was a full body apparition.
Yeah, it was a full body apparition. Yeah. Yeah.
So, I was on the HMS victory. Um the the staff
let me in a bit earlier because I said I was
can I just get a bit of footage record the the
actual ship itself before the public get on there.
So and they're all men that worked in there etc.
So I've gone around just to film it as like a
little intro and I noticed when I look back on
my footage this woman and the thing is they wouldn't
let anyone on the ship now with the clothing
that she'd wear because it's very low and you've
got the stairs. They were very small people back
then so the footwear had to be very specific
because obviously the flooring is wooden. and
this woman seems to be hunched over like that
and just walks over. Now when I've gone back
to go and recreate this, the lady was walking
to a dead end. So to nowhere. So I asked the
staff when I was there, do you have any females
at work here? I showed them and they said, no.
They said, we don't know anyone like that that's
ever worked here. We have cleaners here sometimes,
but they leave before, you know, the ship before
we come in and open to the public. now and they
said what doesn't make sense is that she's walking
to the middle of nowhere and they know I came
in the ship on my own because they allowed me
to come and do a bit of footage first but obviously
that that she sort of hunched over like that
best way to describe it looks quite old and frail
and just sort of walks across didn't even notice
at the time to be fair I was too busy panning
around getting like an intro for the video of
the ship and I'm like yeah well who the hell
was that you know and then Obviously, I've gone
back since and spoke to the you know and spoke
to the people there and they even said the same
we wouldn't allow people on that ship with that
sort of footwear especially because but then
apparently there was I Think it's Lord Nelson
I believe it is or something or whoever used
to live there used to have a lady on the ship
at the time And she was always well to do well
dressed. Is it residual? stone -tape theory I
don't know. It's just one of those that again
I've had a camera documenting it, and it's there.
Yeah. No, it's an incredible capture. I mean,
I'll show it to you, Dave, definitely. If you
could send it to me after this time, that'd be
amazing. Yeah. Definitely. We'll put it up on
the page, too, because it's absolutely incredible.
It really truly is. Is there any questions you
want to ask someone before we head out? Not really
questions. I just wanted to say that, like, your
work is really like Don't know it's really kind
of like I look up to you the work that you've
done It's very inspirational as an investigator
because it speaks to the character that you have
as an investigator Because you have film like
you've formed like a rapport When you walk into
a location and you speak to them as if they're
living that's amazing. I love that You're not
like provoking them or starting an argument with
them You're trying to talk to them and open a
dialogue and you're getting this amazing evidence
and that's beautiful Yeah, I mean, I mean for
me, I don't even see it as a job no more It's
so natural and it's like I don't sound stupid,
but I believe they're there So I believe that's
one one of the things that it's got that belief
and that passion with it I think that helps I
mean I used to when I was a kid I used to work
in a care home and I always relate this when
we go and investigate care homes and nursing
homes that I used to go and talk to the ladies
in there when I was still at school, you know,
and I used to go there and work in the evenings
and I used to go and talk to him because You
know to hear about their stories and stuff. It's
the same sort of thing. You know, i'm trying
to give them a voice to hear their story what
happens And you know, that's that's how I went
whenever I go to a care i'll relate that to That
you know I say, you know I used to go and talk
to ladies and gentlemen and you know in these
places and and hear their stories, you know What
happened to you? You know, why are you still
here? So for me, I don't see it. It's like a
It's just normal now. I think it's just become
so normal that um, yeah, it's just natural. I
think that's why I would say just yourself and
the camera. Sometimes it's all you need, you
know, and and just go with what you feel with
the location. If it's horrible, sometimes be
nice because you're still going to get a horrible
reaction because that person is still going to
be horrible, but you're still going to get a
reaction of get out or F or you know, but you
still got, you know, at least they've actually
used that energy to say get lost. They want to
talk to you. It's something, isn't it? I guess.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. I totally agree
with that. At least he did that. Yeah, it's something
I'd rather get nothing rather than just be quiet
and think or don't feel nice If they're telling
me to get lost well, at least I know why it doesn't
feel so good in there It's like I don't want
to talk to you So so yeah, it says it's always
good to like I say just to have that sort of
do it for the passion You know forget about the
YouTube side the Facebook all that monarchy,
you know when I let go of all that years ago
That's when things started happening for me.
It was when I started sort of said, you know
what? I'm not interested in this no more because
It's just a platform at the end of the day just
to put your stuff up and I think once you let
go of that and deattach from The fact that you
know, oh I could become a youtuber I could be
it things become so much more easier because
you've got nothing to prove to no one, you know,
you're doing it for yourself Absolutely. Yeah,
I agree. I agree 100 % you got to do it for the
passion 100 % You know I see a lot of people
nowadays that are really getting caught up and
not doing it for the right reasons And it's sad
to see because it's leading the path Leading
the field down a wrong path in certain areas,
but you know what it's gonna happen No matter
what and they're just you gotta got a weed through
the good and the bad and just keep to yourself
Like me and you do and just do your own thing,
you know Yeah, unfortunately, it's a lot of it
to do with that mate. That's what it comes down
to you know, you know if you're YouTube and stuff
now and Facebook has become a business, isn't
it? So it's it's yeah, if you can make money
out of it, they're going to go to all sorts of
lengths to try and do so. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Well, Tony, man, thank you so much. I appreciate
all your time, brother, that you give me today
and giving me and Tammy. We really appreciate
you. Appreciate your work, brother. Always before
you go, please shout out where people can find
your stuff at and where they can view more and
more, you know, real great evidence. I'm on YouTube,
Facebook, and TikTok. If you type my name in,
it should come up. Yeah, just to slap yourself
with what you guys seen, hear, and think. And
hopefully, encourage you guys to go out there
and search for yourselves what's out there and
try a different approach, maybe. Absolutely.
That was great. Well, hey, Tony, thank you so
much, brother. It was so great talking to you.
I hope you have a great rest of your night, my
man. I'll talk to you soon, for sure. Yep. Take
care, guys. See you later. Bye. Bye. So, what
did you think of today's show? Just literally
blown away. Like, I have never seen somebody
have that much visual evidence. That's nothing.
Just like, like mostly you see stuff that you
would try to debunk. But the fact that he goes
in and he tries to recreate it and he talks about
his recreations and talking with other people
who had experiences there. I mean, he's doing
the leg work. I mean, he's doing the work. It's
beautiful. I loved it. I can't wait to show you
the video that I asked him to send over the full
-body operation. I wish we had it for the show,
but I will make sure to bring it for the next
show with Tony, because Tony will be back on
again. But when I show you, you're going to be
like, what? You're going to be like, oh my gosh,
because it's a full -body operation. Yeah. Grail.
Talking about when you can even see her footwear
or whatever. Yeah, it's wild. It really truly
is and I can't wait to show you it. But um, yeah,
it was an amazing show today I'm super proud
of Tony Tony's a great friend of mine Has been
for a while and I'm just super proud of all that
he does everything that he's included in everything
He's a part of him and his friend that he doesn't
work with Both two amazing guys. So definitely
go and check out Tony Ferguson Check out his
TikTok. Check out his Facebook, his YouTube.
He's all over all the platforms. Check him out.
Follow him. Check out some more real evidence
like you saw today. And thank you guys so much
for tuning into another episode of Talking with
the Source. We truly appreciate you and we hope
that you guys had a great episode. Absolutely.
Well, until next time. Thank you guys so much.
My name is AJ Capasso and I'm here with Tammy.
We'll be. Later, guys. Bye. Now, this is the
area. where apparently you can hear the whistling
of Art or Arthur, the man that died of a heart
attack, constructing this part of the lift locks.
Did you live here?