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What's going on everybody? This is AJ Capasso here with Talking with the Source. I'm here with my girlfriend Tammy Lee. Tammy, how are you my love?

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I'm good, how are you?

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I'm good, I'm good. So we have an awesome guest today. I'm so excited to have her on. It's going to be such a great topic that I haven't had, I don't think a lot of people on the show this topic.

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And I'm pretty excited to have her on. How about you?

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Definitely. I'm super psyched for this.

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So everyone today, this is Jasmine Bootle and she is a divination specialist. Let me bring her forward.

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Hey Jasmine, how are you?

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I'm good, how are you?

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Good, good.

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Trying to switch the camera angle for us but obviously it doesn't want me to do that. Oh here we go, lay out, there we go.

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Oh sorry, I got the wrong person.

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There we go.

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I can see your boob hole, I look, but that's alright.

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Oh you look fine, you look fine.

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So Jasmine, I wanted to first ask you if you could introduce yourself to our audience and tell us a little bit about yourself so that they get to a little understand a little bit about you.

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Okay, so I'm Jasmine Bootle. I have a business called The Power of Three.

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It just goes along with some of my superstitions and the way I read tarot cards, but I have been drawn to divination and paranormal things since I was probably about four or five when I would experience things.

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And then I would find books about things and then my mom finally bought me tarot cards when I was 13. And I've been reading them ever since for people and I do palmistry.

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I do numerology charts, I use the pendulum and I created a method called induced death communication, where you communicate with a past loved one through the pendulum and the cards to be able to get information and answers that you seek.

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I kind of base my business around healing, because it's kind of how I started it was to heal after losing my father. So when people ask me answers with the cards, it's to try to help them, you know, figure out you know where they're going in their career, trying to help them find that kind of an answer.

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And then with palmistry numerology, they're very much about your own personality and insights about yourself. And that's if you're looking for that kind of thing. That's where that can help you as well.

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So it's something I've been drawn to and done, practiced, learned for a long period of time and decided to turn it into something where I can help people. So that's basically, yeah, a little bit about me, I suppose.

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That is absolutely awesome. There's so many topics that I want to start with, but which one was you like to start with?

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Carol cards, palmistry, whichever you like. Actually, you know, I'm also a palmistry because I don't know too much about palmistry. I know a little bit, but I don't know too much. So can you explain a little bit about it for people that don't know like myself?

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Absolutely. There is so much more to palmistry than what people think. Right. People just think it's the three lines like your lifeline. I read it. First of all, I read your dominant hand. You use it more often. So your lines can change, which it does actually happen in your life.

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And I'll explain in a little in a minute. But you have your lifeline, your headline and your heart line. Those are the three that mostly everybody knows of. Then there's the middle line that is your career line.

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And the more times it breaks, it is the more times you will change careers. Right. Then there's things on your lines. And that's what I was getting to is because you use your hands. You can have things right now. Like if I look at my hand, I have squares, which means you're going through some struggles in your life right now, which I am.

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And then you could also have islands, which means that like you're lucky. You can have the X on the middle of your hand, which I do, which means you're very intuitive there under there can be a line under here called the Venus girdle.

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There's also the lines right here will tell you how many marriages you will have as well. You can have mounts under each part of your hand, and they also have different explanations about your personality as well.

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So I just said a few things about the like I said, islands and squares, but there could also be tassels. I'm trying to think of them all. There's all kinds of little things that go along with your lines like see like there's X's.

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There's breaks. There's just different things that also play into the story of your life when it goes along with your hand, right? Because even if your headline in your heart line, some people have them equal, meaning they think both logically and emotionally.

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So they use both. So they're kind of balanced. Then there's people whose lifeline or their heart lines longer. So they're more emotional headlines longer. They're more logical. But it also the shape of the line also means different things.

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So if you have a straight heart line, it means that you're very nurturing. And if you have a straight headline, it means that you are very emotionally mature and logical. So there's a lot to it.

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And the mounts that you can have also have to do with parts of your life like the Venus Mount is a very popular one. And if you have that, it means that you're somebody that people are attracted to just naturally.

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You know what I mean? And then there's like the Apollo Mount, which means that you will be very successful. And the Mercury Mount, which means that you are very logical, which will help you in life.

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Like there's just like I said, there's quite a bit. Plus, the shape of your hand means something to like I've air hands, right, which just means more of like what I like to do as a person. And there's earth, air, fire and water hands.

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And they all have to do with your personality as well. Right. And each finger also represents earth, air, fire, water, spirituality. Right.

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So they all have all these different aspects to your hand that I write down when I do this for you so that you can look back and understand what I'm trying to explain to you, because it's a lot of information all at once.

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Right. Yeah. A lot of different little details that you wouldn't think of. Right. Yeah, absolutely.

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I mean, I never even knew like, like there was that stuff like with the squares and the breaks and certain things like that. And I'm over here looking at my palm as you're saying that.

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Like, I'm over here like, wait a minute, how many mirrors is like going on? Like, what's up? You know, so like, that's so cool, though. Like, I always wanted to get into this and I never knew where to learn about it and how to really get into it.

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And it's very interesting. I actually learned it from there's a woman on a group called tipsy cauldron who sells like instructional things.

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And I bought her instruct instructional palmistry papers and she tea stains them and everything. So they're beautiful.

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So they're nice to like put on your table if you're at a fair, just like a few of the pages because they're cool looking. But I don't put out like how to or anything because I kind of don't need people to learn on the road.

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Yeah, that's how I learned how to do that was just through buying something from her. It was so informational that I didn't know the same.

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Like, I knew a lot about it from learning other ways, but I didn't know about the brakes or the tassels or the the X or the squares, the islands, the yeah, all that kind of stuff.

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Right. So that was something new to me that I had to kind of memorize so that when I'm reading somebody's hand, I'm not looking at a piece of paper that I'm looking at their hand.

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Right. It doesn't. So I had to memorize it, but it was definitely super informational.

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So I find sometimes like online you can like I mean, it only fades a little bit for that.

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Right. So you can find ways to learn without buying those master classes that cost so much money.

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You can learn in other ways without having to spend a lot of money. You know what I mean? Yeah.

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Well, you said that you read the dominant hand.

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Everybody that I've ever seen usually does the non dominant hand.

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So I find that really fascinating that you did the dominant hand.

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I could I said because you use it more often. Right.

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I like that. The little things can change just because you work with that hand so much and it has more of your personality in it because you use it more often.

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And that's why I read the dominant one. Right.

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Yes, absolutely. And I agree. But that that makes much more sense.

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Well, thanks. Yeah, no, that does. And that's that's that's pretty fascinating.

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I mean, how long did it take you to like really grasp all of this just for Palmis you?

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Um, I would I already knew the basics of palmistry when I was 13.

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The book I had had the with the tarot that I learned it had basics of palmistry and basics of numerology in it.

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So I knew the basics. So to graphs, the more difficult stuff,

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it probably took me about two weeks to be able to memorize it all so that I could use it for when I had a fair coming up.

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So I had to make sure that I memorized it well because you're not allowed to take out your papers or anything.

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Right. So it probably two weeks to like super memorize everything so that I could be able to tell you and write it down and explain it to you without having to look at a resource.

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Right. But like I said, I did already have like that. I knew what some of the lines already meant.

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I just didn't know about the other parts like the mounts and the things on your lines and stuff like that.

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So there was the extra that I didn't know about. Right.

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Yeah. Wow. That is so cool. I never knew all that about the palmistry stuff.

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Like I said, I really interest me a lot and you have my eyes to this and I'm definitely going to start looking more and more into it because it's very fascinating stuff.

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And anything with divination and paranormal and just spirituality, anything along those lines, I love to read, learn and study along with stuff with science as well to try and back up certain things in my paranormal experiences, my journey.

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And there's a lot that correlates with everything together. And I love that.

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But for terror, you said palmistry and terror, you got together like you kind of came together with you together.

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So how does terror play into that play?

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Or I just was in the book. Terror doesn't terror doesn't play into policy numerology does.

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But terror does not. Okay.

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So I'm not playing the terror, but numerology does play into terror for certain little extra things you can do with the cards.

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Besides just giving a reading, right? So that's where there's a little bit of crossover, right?

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Same with astrology. I'm not a huge. I don't know a lot about astrology, but I know the different like the parts that go along with the terror because I just studied terror for so long that I guess I've just picked up on it.

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Right about it. I don't know through other readings. I know a lot of other readers and stuff, you know, so it's just through the community learning different aspects of it, I suppose.

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That is absolutely awesome. That is great. Go ahead.

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Oh, no, it is. It's absolutely fascinating.

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How many different kinds of divination there actually is. I mean, just learning about how other people read and how other people do things is, I don't know, just makes me want to learn more.

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Well, I got lucky the last fair that I was at the lady. She's like, you look really tense and gave me some free reiki. I was like, thank you.

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I'm going to give a nation as well, but I don't know how to do reiki. And she's like, you look so I can she's like, I can see it in your shoulders. Come sit down. I'll do it for you.

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And I gave her I gave her something that I had on my table. I was like, I'll give you this for that then because I don't like to take things for free. So it gave her something.

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Oh, I definitely know that is great. Now for numerology, numerology really fascinates me. And I'm trying to grasp it right now. And I grasp some of it. I don't really grasp all of it.

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Like life path number or say I feel sorry with this. The day you were born, like the say I was born on the eighth.

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Like, like when you do the charts, your birth date, like because I don't know why that's considered in the five core numbers, but your birthday like means nothing really like the answers that it'll say that it means is so silly.

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Like you mind I forgot what it means. But it doesn't it just is like, oh, it was warm that day. Like, it doesn't make sense. I don't understand the birthday aspect myself.

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I know that you have to use your full name and your birthday to create the rest of the chart. But your birthday number does it doesn't have like a huge prevalence in itself.

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It's just used to be prevalent within using the numbers and the letters to create the other five core numbers that you would have. Right. It's just the first one because it's your birthday. Right.

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Yeah, no, definitely. Definitely. She that's cool that you said that because I heard a lot of different things with the birthday stuff, especially for like people who are born on the eighth or 26 or whatever other date as of eight.

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They were saying like for money problems like money issues stuff like people would eight people who are born eight like you're either going to have a lot of money or you're going to have no money or never going to be in the middle type stuff.

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So I kind of see what you mean by the silliness of how people take silliness out of it and put it into that birthday type stuff. So it's good that you said that because your life path number would be more of what gives you that information, not your actual birthday.

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That I calculated and understand it anyways. Right. Yeah, no.

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You explain a little bit about the life path and numerology a little bit more for us. So there's five core numbers.

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Obviously, your birthday is the first one. Then here's your life path number.

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Then there is your destiny number, your heart's desire number and your personality number. Now your personality number and what was the second one?

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My no, not your life path. What after you do you do you do death or no hearts desire and your personality. They so your heart's desire is kind of yourself that you show everybody your personality is kind of like a reflection of what you show people of yourself.

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But it's not like the full true aspect of yourself. Right. So when it'll tell you that what it tells you is the personality that you show people and then your heart's desire will actually tell you what you truly are, who you truly are, what you truly want, not what you maybe project on to other project to the world.

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Right.

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Hmm. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No, I mean, I don't know a whole lot about numerology. I mean, it's fascinating to me, but it's also really confusing because all the numbers we use.

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It's like to do certain numbers. You actually use either vowels of somebody's name or just the constant into somebody's name or you use for the life path number their whole name, right to add things that you only use a birthday for our story for the life path number.

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You use your birth date and then the rest of them you use the letters of the name and consonants in like and for your heart's true desire.

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You use all of the letters. That's where it's at.

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Wow.

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There's so many little things with adding it up. Right. I don't I when I do it at a fair, I tell them I'll email it to them because it takes me so long just to calculate everything that I'm like.

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I don't want to make you sit here and wait for me to do. So I'll just email it to you or I've done it for my neighbors a couple of times because they're into that stuff.

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So I'm like, oh, well, you know, if you want, they were like, I'd really like to see what my new morality chart would say.

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So it's like, all right, they traded me bacon for numerology charts.

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That is awesome. Hey, you know, you can't go wrong with some bacon.

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I know.

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That's a better form of payment for me than money because I'll probably just take the money and buy bacon.

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So I get the bacon, you know, well, it's really, really good quality bacon.

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So I was like, wow.

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There you go.

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That's awesome. That's funny.

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So tell me what is your favorite divination?

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What is your favorite form of divination?

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I would probably say terror just because I know it so well.

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I like doing my death induced readings because I like to help people with grief.

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But terror would be my favorite just because I know it so well that it's a little bit comes to me so much more easily.

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That I don't get nervous or anything.

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And I enjoy being able to.

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It's almost like therapy, you know, but I don't have to have a wallop.

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So I'm able to like tell people, you know, a little bit about my real life to call a call, like comfort them so that they can really actually focus on what they're asking.

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And they don't feel like alone.

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Right. So it can be a lot of fun.

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And you can make a lot of friends doing it. Like, I'm not saying clients are my friends per se, but I definitely keep up with them without doing readings on a regular basis.

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The first client I ever had a couple of years ago, her and I chat and she lives in Nigeria.

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I mean, I just work for an app, too. Right.

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So I meet people from everywhere.

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Oh, wow. That's awesome.

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Oh, really? What? You know, I'm asking what was one you said?

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I use it. So it's it's called bit wine.

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But you need to have if you're going to use it, you need to have a laptop.

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If you're just going to get like you want a reading, you can use your phone.

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But if you want to be a reader, you have to have a laptop.

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That's the only issue.

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But they take the least amount of commission and they allow you the most amount of control over the phone.

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And they allow you the most amount of control over your what you do.

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Right. Like they're not up your butt like some of the other ones like I would keep off other ones for giving somebody my email because I was going to email them their reading and I got kicked off of it.

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It's like, well, that's not really fair. I'm just trying to give them their reading.

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Whatever. Right. Yeah.

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No, definitely. Now, I want to go into what you what you've created to help with grief.

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I want to really dive into this because I think it's so fascinating how you add a couple of things together like you were talking back to Tammy about if you can go a little bit into what you kind of created.

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So induced death communication, I created it. First of all, start with the back story. My father passed away and there's a lot of things my aunt did that were shady around the time he died.

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And afterwards that I needed certain answers or I just I just couldn't write like every it consumed me at certain times or it would trigger me even when people would say things.

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Right. Certainly. Right. So anyways, I seen a few mediums and they just couldn't get the answers.

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So one day I was watching a paranormal show where they were using a pendulum to ask if there's any spirits in the house.

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I took that and I used it in a more deeper way to ask if a specific spirit might like my father was with me and then to answer any yes or no questions.

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I would use the pendulum and if you want messages or guidance, I use the tarot cards to go deeper into what you're looking for.

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Whatever it is that you're looking for, I will go with that. Right. And if you're in person with me, I let you have control of the pendulum and the cards and I'll just explain it to you just so you know that I'm not doing it intentionally.

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You know what I mean? Just for the legitimacy of knowing that you really are connecting with that person. Right. So I've definitely seen like a lot of different people are very, very emotional.

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You have to be prepared for that. I definitely answered a lot of people's questions and I've taught a lot of people the technique as well.

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I'm actually set to teach a grief counselor that's this technique tomorrow to see if he wants to use it in his grief practices.

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So I'm trying to legitimize the practice so that it can actually help people because like I said mediums.

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Yes, they can answer things, but they can't pull things out of the air with this will give you the answers to help you sleep at night.

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You know, instead of just yeah, yeah, the closure, the moving on because it answers it for you. Right. And like I still I'll talk to my dad if I'm stressed out or something bad's going on.

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And if I am not listening to him, the same cards will come up every time.

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I'm like, oh, you have to do this. And I'm like, I don't want to.

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Yeah, yeah. Still being a dad in the afterlife. I love it. You know, beautiful.

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That is great. That is great. You know, I lost my dad too in 2020. So I totally feel your pain and I'm so sorry for your loss, but it's so great to hear that you're able to communicate.

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Thank you. It's so great to hear that you communicate with them. I communicate with my dad through spirit box and he comes through constantly.

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Obviously, it's not the same because they're not there. You can't hug them, you know, but at least you can get some form of communication to have that closure and comfort, you know.

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Exactly. And that's the point. Right. Like you need some things are so left unanswered. Right. And some things happen so quickly.

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Oh, family turns ugly when people die. So there's so much there's so much to unpack there for people that it definitely helps give them answers. Same like with what you use, it helps you to still feel them around.

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And it also kind of gives you that piece of knowledge that they're okay and helps you let go of some of the resentments just because you can communicate with them, I think, too. Right. Yeah.

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I think that is I really like the fact that you're having a meeting with a Greek counselor to teach this. Oh my god, that's amazing. Like, I would love to see that go more like be more frequently used because it could help so many people.

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Right. Well, like, especially because I talk to people over the world, right. Like there is a woman whose father and she, like I said, brought to Wada and she didn't have the health care to be able to know what happened.

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Something happened in his brain, but they don't know he died in his sleep. And we were able to answer what it was, which was a blood clot that exploded from what the answers we got. And he was able to tell her that through the cards and the pendulum.

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And she was able to have some peace and finally knowing what had happened to him. Right. And that's why I do want to legitimize it as much as possible, because you can do it on your own.

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And it's almost if you can do it on your own, if you know how to read tarot cards, it you can have that privacy with the emotional aspect. Right.

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I want to like I'm trying to write like a small it's not like I just explained it pretty it's not huge, like it's not hard to learn. So I just want to write something that has an instructional guide and and kind of how to do it, how to make sure you're grounded, all that kind of stuff.

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But it's more like a pamphlet than I would say a book. Right. It's just kind of a how to to help people and in talking to that grief counselor, I'm going to see if he would be interested in helping me make flyer if he's interested in the idea. Right.

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I think that is absolutely amazing.

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Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, if that's going to help a lot of people and to get on board with somebody like a grief counselor, he didn't get them interested in something like this and to have someone open mind that's like that in that field is so great to hear because I know with my paranormal work, the whole point is to have science, you know, really look into this deeper and find out, you know, what is consciousness, what is energy, what is that we are and all this stuff.

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And I feel like you are doing that in this form of divination. And I find that absolutely amazing because you're getting a breakthrough for divination that is really something that people aren't pushing for for some reason. And I, I love that you're doing that. I think that's absolutely great.

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I think that's why my best anybody necessarily ever thought of it, you know, it was just something that just like it was a light bulb over your head, you know, like, I think that people thought, like, you know, because they do ask all the time of spirits are there at pendulums, but they never go any deeper.

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And I don't know why, but I like decided, well, I'm going to go deeper. And I think that it's just sometimes it takes one person to think about it in a different light, you know.

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Go ahead.

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No, I just, I was agreeing that I think it's perfect.

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Oh yeah, I didn't know if you want to ask a question about it because I'm blown away. I think that's absolutely fascinating and I hope to see it expand and be used a whole lot more. I really do.

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I'm fascinated by it. And I know, like, you know, we're all going to lose people that we love. We're, it's, you know, it's inevitable. And to be able to have a way to get those answers to bring us peace and some sort of closure and know that there's still a connection, because energy never dies, it just transforms.

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That's exactly how I feel about energy. Right. So 100% it doesn't die. It just changes forms. Everything like grass is alive, for instance, you know what I mean? And that's energy in itself. Right.

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Absolutely. I mean, energy is everything, you know, everything and everything. And, you know, I love, I always love the quote that Nikola Tesla said, you know, if you want to find the secrets of the universe, study energy, vibration and frequency.

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And it's something that I use a lot with paranormal and science based stuff that I try to do with my paranormal to explain those skeptics or to explain to people who really don't have an idea of what the paranormal is instead of just giving them a folklore type aspect of it and saying angels, demons and all this type of stuff where they're probably going to be like, oh, that's a joke.

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I'm going to try to explain to them in energy, vibration and frequency and they seem to grasp that a little bit more about it. So I find it really fascinating that you know you are bringing this out into the light.

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Well, I'm sorry.

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I was just gonna say I once said to somebody.

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We see like I pointed out a tree and I said the only reason we think that's a tree is because somebody told us that's a tree. So it's the same thing with what you're saying with like energy and vibration it's people are like sheep in a way we, we do what we like this lamp, I was told it was a lamp.

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But it could not even be here for all I know right it's just perception that we're taught at such a young age right he asked me about why but I was like, yeah, but still.

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Absolutely. So, what are some things you have in the works for yourself, besides what you're doing with this Greek counselor where some other major things you have going on right now.

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I have some other podcasts get guest spots until I start my, which I would call it a holistic healing tour I have about eight shows that I'm doing.

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So I'm doing some guest spots to try to you know generate, or even, I don't even always talk about divination sometimes I talk about like my life and struggles I've had in my life and stuff.

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Um, I just am trying to get people to understand a few things, because I like have been through a lot so it's more of explaining myself and why I do what I do and how it does actually help you, you know what I mean.

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So I'm just trying to get that out there while I have time before I start doing like my holistic healing tour which is usually from like me to like July and then I probably will write a book or something at that point but right now I'm also full time students

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and I don't want to do too much or I will burn out because I have two kids as well right so so much I can't do too much so right now I'm going to try to do what I'm doing right now is talk about myself get myself out there, get people understand who I am

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what I'm about, and then go from there on to the next thing that site is doing this the holistic healing, like, pairs and stuff, I follow a few companies, I go with a few companies around the area and do different shows and stuff like that.

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And then I'll probably come back and either write a book or start my own podcast I haven't figured out after I'm done, like, all of my stuff in July what I'm going to do next.

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But it'll I'm thinking about doing like something like writing a book on tarot like some how to stuff right, because I had a knowledge and I want to work on doing that.

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I just need to find the time right.

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Have you thought about maybe doing some like classes.

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I've already done tarot classes.

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I was thinking about doing some palmistry classes and offering like a little two week course on the induced death communication.

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I have no ideas in the works you know they mean I just haven't had time to fully put them out there yet because I got a little behind in school and I just had to pound that out last three days right.

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So sometimes it can get sick. Things happen so I have things in the works I just haven't figured out how to fully plan that out yet right like I have to put like I'm an Aries Aries have too many ideas, and they never finished them

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like that so I have to see things through and go slow not jump in right.

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I have to logical.

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Yeah, no I totally feel you on that I totally feel you on that.

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You know it's I give you so much credit to be you know a full time student to have two kids, and to know all this knowledge to have learned all this knowledge, and then to still be helping people and trying to teach others this and everything I mean, you are doing so much

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already I mean and then they still have all these other things that you are going to do. It's just so fascinating that you even have the time to do one of the things, let alone all of the things you're already doing, you know, so I commend you on that that is so great.

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I have a lot of I had going through some struggles right now so I throw myself into working on things so you'll have to think about the negative aspect for say that's kind of how the business started in the first place because I don't want to like I need to focus my energy on something positive

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opposed to something negative right so I say take on too much but like that's why I'm doing so much right now right because I'm trying to positive and move in a positive direction instead of laying in bed all day being depressed right.

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Yeah, no definitely you know I get it I get a therapist vibe from you like energy wise like I get a therapist vibe from you like like you have a I don't know how to explain it but it's like a you have a lot of knowledge that can help many people get through many different things

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because of what you've been through in your life, and I feel like that is a big purpose for you in life and I just feel that for some reason and I see you really working it and I think that that's so so magical and something so great because a lot of people will stay like

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myself I'll get into a negative right and I will dwell on things like my father and stuff like that, or in how he passed and stuff and, and I'll get myself and I will, you know, maybe procrastinate or dwell on it or, you know, go lay in my bed like you said and you know be

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depressed or something like that and to hear you talk about using your tools as a you know way to get yourself to make it into a positive instead of a negative made a lot of sense to me and some of this work that I do, and how I should put my energy into that, you know, so I appreciate you sharing that knowledge with me.

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No problem it took me a while to get to that at that point you know I'm 38 to be 37 so it took me a few years to get to that point, you know a few addictions so yeah.

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I'm 36 going to be 37 in June so trust me I've been there with you I was addicted to opiates I died 12 times had a near death experience that changed my life and got clean because of it and I've been clean almost actually this year will be 10 years so.

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Oh good for you.

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That's awesome Congrats, you know it's not easy right.

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Especially opening in the withdrawal that's not fun at all.

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No, no it's not I don't wish it upon my worst enemy and I'm glad that I don't have to ever wake up sick again, you know.

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So, but I tell you you know it's amazing that these type of like negative experiences in our lives can bring us into such spiritual aspects of things and I feel like I feel like I'm grateful that I went through my addiction even though it was a horrible horrible experience.

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Yeah, it's just I think it's so great that I went through it because I wouldn't be more spiritually grown than I would have been I think if I didn't go through it you know I think I still would have been the immature kids still, you know, well the same I had an ego still right and then

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going having to walk into a methadone clinic really strips you of your ego you know real fast. Oh I know. Oh I know. Yep, you're right about that especially like my methadone clinic we had our entire high school grade there.

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So it was like a whole high school reunion every time we walked in.

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That is wild you know it's crazy and it's so it's so wild that you know, I happened to stumble upon you. And it's funny that you talk about you know we had similar things about addiction and certain things like that I would have never guessed that because we obviously

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we didn't talk about that and stuff. So like I said I appreciate that you shared that right now.

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But it's just weird how people get connected and brought into your life and you guys have similarities that you know spiritually that bring you guys together and I think that they're so cool that it's how life works, you know, I know same it's like all kind of happening in like that

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like I said like with the opiates it's like I was meant to have that addiction to be brought to a place where I can help people because otherwise I would have had to go and it's like life even though that's a negative thing, still puts things in your life,

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because eventually there is a light at the end of the tunnel you just don't see it yet, and it's all working behind the works that you just don't know yet right.

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Yeah. And you know you know what the best thing for me that I came out of it for me was, is that I was able to now put my shoes and people who are struggling like in rock bottom and know what it's like to be there.

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And then also know what it's like to have everything, you know, so it was like source for God, whatever we call him, or it, you know, it.

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Yeah, higher power there you go, you know, and it's literally.

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I believe that it puts us through these paths for a reason, you know what I mean and like I believe that we grow because of this and everyone obviously has their own life path.

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But I believe that you know for people like us who have had these type of struggles with addiction and things. I believe it helped us kind of grow spiritually quicker.

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In a way, open up more quickly. Yeah, like be able to be less judgmental towards new things and people themselves and be able to like listen to them instead of thinking somebody's crazy you actually, you're like well maybe there's something to this you know you're not sitting there with that

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eagle that you once had right. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. If you don't mind me asking what helped you first with all the struggles that you're going through, not now but in the past to what helped you what divination tools that helped you the most through that.

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I read reading my cards. I always read my cards like because like I I even see patterns with them if I'm not listening and stuff like that right so obviously I use the cards often to ask for guidance or my pendulum and stuff like that because it calms me down if I'm like super worried about something and it'll give me an answer and I'll ask several times just make sure it's giving me the right answer because I'm so like.

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And then are also it'll give me guidance and tell me which way to go about doing it if I need to accomplish something right or it'll tell me you need to take more time to plan or you know what I mean like it.

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I it's a tool I've used it for guidance for a long time like it was kind of an obsession in high school. I don't do it nearly as much as I do like that like then but I definitely in hard times.

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That is so great that is so great now for care of for yourself.

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What is the way that you lay things out like what kind of layout do you use what kind of way do you use them like how do you go about it.

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So I always pull three cards no matter who I'm reading what I'm doing more than three cards it ends up becoming contradictory with other cards it ends up not giving you a straight answer.

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So I pull three cards if you don't get enough information from those three cards of what you're asking them we pull another three cards.

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It's just more clear of an answer if you pull three.

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So I've always pulled three cards.

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It's just everybody has their own way of reading but my style has always been three cards.

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That's your intuition telling you that's how you're supposed to read.

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That's how I feel because I try other readings I'll do the New Year's readings for people which is like a lot of work trying to explain 12 cards with your mind and correlating it all right.

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But like three cards are really good for answering those questions because they cut right to the point right.

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Even if they're not nice about it they'll cut right to the point.

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Absolutely. I always had this one question for Tara I was always wondering is there a certain way you're supposed to shuffle or just shuffle it regularly and then it just you know you know spirit or whatever you know just works its way through it like how do you explain that.

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So your spirit guides one that is giving you the answers and you can shuffle however you want. Why go to the university sometimes and read there when they're doing events and this one guy every time I go he smacks the cards on top of each other.

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I don't know anybody ever shuffles cards that way but it's like six in my mind because it's hilarious to watch.

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You can't try not to laugh but yeah you shuffle however you feel you want you just have to basically be focused and even it might not answer your question it might tell you more about what you need to know than what your question is.

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So you have to be careful with that too right but shuffling them wise.

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There's no real way to shuffle them you can do it however you want slapping them I would suggest.

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Now I'm going to remember that if I ever see someone doing terror I'm going to start slapping the cars for sure.

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But just just to remember this podcast you know but that is that is absolutely great I want to ask you a quick question if you're trying to find out if someone was your soulmate with tarot cards would you still pull three cards.

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Now, if you don't mind if you don't mind me asking this would you mind maybe pulling three cards for me and Tammy.

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You know we've been having a lot of we've been having a lot of synchronicities happen with this and I just want to see what the cards have to say about this.

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Yeah, now I'm curious.

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Once your soulmates right.

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Yeah, I'm going to use the pendulum and the cards.

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So the pendulum is saying yes, and it's going pretty hard so like something to start right away but it went right away to yes, so then we will see the car touch it.

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But I was like I said I do both to help give accurate answers in some ways right. Yeah.

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It's a kind of back myself up.

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I like that.

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slap those cards gone.

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Literally go.

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I know and you're sitting there like trying to like focus and you're like

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I'm not going to keep them on the side just see what it plays into it or it was just an accident right.

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So I have the page of cups which I think would represent AJ as a person right because usually they represent these human cards represent a person and he's a cup which has to do with love right.

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I'm talking about love and I think it's representing his deep love for Tammy and then the nine of Pentacles also was say that you guys will together will be able to be fighting it like make some good money together like together you'll be a very good team in making finances like you know what I mean like teaming up and doing working together you guys will be

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potentially very stable and it won't change who either of you are as people but you'll still be well like so you'll make some good money together but you're not going to change who you are which also plays into the soulmate aspect meaning that you guys won't change as people which will keep you guys down to earth and together in that way.

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And then I have the world which was the card that flipped out and that has to do with wisdom and understanding and I think what it means is that you guys understand each other on a different level and both share the same kind of human understanding like you both share that same kind of wisdom and understanding.

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So you understand each other and you share that kind of part of you that is looking into more and learning more and becoming more wise and basically it's a together you guys are kind of unstoppable you do really well together and that I think does mean yes your soulmates and that you guys together can create some really good things in your lives for each other.

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That's what I guess.

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Is that not crazy what she just said.

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That is wild because the whole, especially the last thing that you said with the wisdom and understanding that we have for each other like we keep saying each other every day like, like we have way too much in common like you know what I mean like it's like read each other's minds almost right.

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Oh my god it's crazy like it's wild like I'll be typing the time and I'll see you think synchronicity of like to to to and then she'll already have texted me and said to to to like things like that you know what I mean.

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So it's really weird that you said that like and you're not the first person to say that but it's amazing that the cards came out that way because that signifies so much more in my eyes obviously too but just all the synchronicities and the people that have came up and said oh you found your soulmate you know and I'm like I wish you know that you know and now you just kind of confirmed it with two things and it's just great to hear that.

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I'm glad that it like poorly because when I seen the cards I was like oh this correlates so well as it like it also the fact that you already are a team. I feel like together you'll be able to put your head together and be with the wisdom that you do have and the understanding of each other creates so much more because you understand each other.

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People that are saying each other they're going to clash with their ideas where you guys are going to do that you're just going to flourish with your ideas right but like I said also with the car that says you'll flourish financially you'll still stay the same people which will also keep you guys together in your relationship and still be that connected because you won't change your ego won't take over because you have more money right.

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Yeah, no you're absolutely right and we're always telling one another that we are a team you know and that's so funny you said that.

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We always literally tell each other that.

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We're always saying that it's funny we're always saying yep no no we're a team.

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That's why I said the car will tell you what you want to tell you what you need to hear not what you want to hear but at least they said something good.

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No, no definitely thank you so much for that that meant a lot thank you.

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Oh no problem like I said I enjoy reading the cards right.

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Yeah, no and I appreciate you doing that for us really I really really do and I really appreciate your time that you've given us coming on the show because you've opened my eyes to a lot of different divination tools and stuff that I'm going to start looking into and all that stuff and I wanted to ask.

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I know you're busy obviously you know doing or you're going to do a lot of things this year, maybe at the end of the summer or something like that I would love to have you come back on and talk further about this.

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When we have more knowledge is I'm going to do more research and you know into this myself and I'm going to have way more more deeper questions probably to ask and I would love to have you on again if you would love to come on.

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Absolutely.

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Yes, I love this kind of conversation. Absolutely.

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Well thank you so much, Tim you want to ask anything before we head out.

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No, I'm, I'm, I'm definitely going to be doing some more research on like on palmistry for sure I'm really interested in palmistry.

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I can actually email you all of those papers that I have that would be amazing.

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And that's how I learned and I am that's how I got fired from that place because I was going to email her those palmistry sheets.

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I have them already on the, on my phone so I can just email them I'll email them to him through our conversation already and stuff. Yeah.

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Thank you so much. I appreciate you so much. And please keep up what you're doing. Please before you go please tell everybody where they can follow you out where they can find you out where they can come and see you at anything that you want to promote please.

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The best place to find me would be Facebook. I'm working on my YouTube channel. They're both my first and last name, and you can find me at the holistic healing fair, working through Luna event and through all Canadian events throughout the summer in different spots

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across Ontario, Canada, and if you want a reading that is one on one, you can contact me through Facebook, or through my WhatsApp that's on my Facebook and we can set up, I have calendar so you can book an appointment, and we can do virtual or we can do in real life

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depending on location. And, yeah, that's basically how you find me.

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Thank you so much. That is awesome. I cannot thank you enough for coming on I mean, there's so many more questions I have I can't believe this hour went by so quickly.

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It always does when we're talking about something very interesting and I hate it because there's so much more questions I'm going to have five minutes from now that I'm going to be emailing you about most likely, you know, so it's like I but I'll save it for the

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next one. I'm sure but I'll be writing down definitely some stuff but I just want to say thank you so much and I hope that you know all the stuff that you're going through and everything that you have gone through, I appreciate the person that you are.

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And I hope that you keep flourishing and what you're doing, and I look forward to seeing all your ideas come to the fruition because you're going to do amazing things I already know it.

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Thank you. And I appreciate you having me on and I appreciate you also sharing your struggles with me and us being able to kind of speak on a little bit as well.

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And, you know, have that realness I guess you could say and it was just such a nice conversation I really enjoyed being on and meeting you guys and yeah talking about what I do.

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Thank you so much. We really appreciate you. Well, until next time we appreciate you and we love you and you're now part of the talking with the source family so anytime you want to come on and just let us know as well if you want to come on before that time that we

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we talked about and just let me know and we'll have you on anytime you would like.

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Perfect. Thank you so much.

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Yeah, keep up the great work seriously.

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Thank you.

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All right, take care.

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You too.

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Bye.

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One sec let me switch this back here.

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So tell me what did you think him.

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Oh my god. She's amazing.

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She's really good at playing around amazing. Everything that she's doing help all the help like I see her, like you mentioned that you thought she kind of reminded you a therapist. I got healing, like a healer.

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So that's similar.

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Yeah, and it's like she's like, I'm a modern day healer. And it's, I think that's beautiful all the things she's going to do to help people with her techniques.

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Yeah, and then the reading. What.

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Yeah, the reading is scary because, like, it's really scary because of like, okay, for example, for people who don't know at home.

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One of the synchronicities that was really strange is that we talked about how we were both punks growing up, and we always talk about things and then we both have so much in hilarious like she would hang out at a skate park when she was younger I hung out

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when she was younger I skateboarded she rollerbladed and skated and stuff. And the funny part was she had a purple roller blades, and I opened my door during the conversation. And right outside my door was one purple roller skate.

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And I never seen that roller roller skate and my entire life outside my door, but during that conversation and just what appeared outside my door not a set of them just one of them and I have it right here.

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And I think that I've been coming up in our lives. And, you know, how everything has just came off this past year and then this is just, it's wild and it just goes to show that this stuff is real.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, that is wild.

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As well. I was. This is this was a great show.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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I'm gonna come back that'll be awesome. Oh, absolutely. We're definitely gonna have her come back because there's so much more already that I want to ask but it's because I can't go over an hour with stream art because it's like it becomes such a big file to take off and do things

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I learned the hard way can't do a Joe Rogan kite podcast with three hours because, you know, it's even though I could do it. It's just, I don't know if stream art would really be happy with me if I did it but I wish I could do it but I tell you what I that's why I have people on multiple times because it's just something that's I find awesome because it gives you more time to think about more deeper questions instead of just having them on one big time you know.

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Absolutely.

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Well everyone thank you so much for tuning into another episode talking with the source we greatly appreciate you guys supporting us watching us.

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Right now talking with the source is just on YouTube at the moment just because we're going through a switch in our streaming service.

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Due to some of the things that prices have went up and just different aspects of what's going on in the streaming field. So, we just want to say thank you to everyone who has watched and everyone who has commented as well that I just saw psychic medium Rebecca.

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Hello, how are you I hope you're still watching if you're not that's totally okay but thank you so much for tuning in.

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Please feel free to contact us if you're a psychic medium, and we would love to have you on and talk to you as well. That would be amazing.

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So, we really appreciate everyone though and we thank you guys so much for watching talking with the source. You can also check us out on Spotify and all the podcasts listening platforms.

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But until next time, I'm AJ Capasso, and I'm with my girlfriend Tammy Lee.

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Talk to you guys soon.

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Bye.