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Welcome to Talking with the Source, where we burn on well-known and local researchers

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from around the world to share their experiences and evidence.

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Who knows that the moon missions were faked?

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Well, there are 63 races of grays.

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So most people only think there's one race.

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And when you say grays, it's a misinformation.

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There are 63 races.

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Out of those, one race is a negative extraterrestrial.

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And what I do is I group them in the negative and the positive.

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The positive wish to save humanity a sand.

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Talking with the Source, live every Sunday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time and on all

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podcast listening platforms.

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What's going on, everybody?

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This is AJ Capasso here from Talking with the Source.

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I'm the host and founder here with my best friend, Chris.

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Chris, what is up, my brother?

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Not a lot, not a lot.

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Been a good day.

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Nice.

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We are missing one other brother right now.

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He is dealing with some things, so he's not going to be on the podcast for a little while.

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But we wish him the best and we are praying with him right now for a good outcome.

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We love you, John, and we hope everything works out.

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Absolutely.

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And just for him, go Broncos.

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Oh, geez.

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Come on.

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Just for him.

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Just for him.

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Oh, man.

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You know what?

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Just for that, go Cowboys.

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All right, I don't know if we want to lose that Giants game, but hey, it's all good.

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I think we won.

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We won.

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I think you won.

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Good.

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Then there we go.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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All right.

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I don't even watch football, but I just I like Cowboys since the 90s, but that's all

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good.

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But anyway, so we have we have an amazing guest today, man.

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I'm super excited to bring him in.

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This is a guest that I've wanted to have on for a very long time.

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But one thing I do want to talk about is a convention that's coming up that he has put

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together that I'm going to be speaking at.

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It is the Paranormal Legends Convention with special guests Chris McKinnell and Joe Frank

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from the Warren Legacy Foundation.

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It's going to be Sunday, October 20th, 2024 from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m.

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Tickets are $30, children under 12 or 15.

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There's going to be a vendor fair, haunted artifact museum, psychics and mediums, paranormal

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workshops, which I'll be doing one and investigations in a haunted jail.

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So it's in Newtown, Connecticut.

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You can go to www.Edmontownhall.org to find out more as well.

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And it's going to be absolutely amazing.

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So I can't wait to introduce this guest.

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His name is Nicholas Grossman.

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He's an amazing investigator and a veteran in the field.

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So let's bring him forward, man.

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Hey, hey, hey, going on, my brother.

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I put a spell on you.

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Hey, man.

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What's going on, everybody?

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Grateful to be here.

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Very cool podcast.

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Thank you.

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Watched a bunch of bunch of them already.

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And I'm really grateful to be here.

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It's really cool.

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It's got good energy.

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This podcast has energy.

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It's got a good it's got a good flow.

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You know what I mean?

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Goodbye.

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Oh, yeah.

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Goodbye.

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It's 100 percent.

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It's a lot of fun, man, so I can't thank you.

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We already got one.

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Keep jumping in.

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Hey, Chris, if you could, if you could share this to ParaPost Network because I was having

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some problems connecting to it.

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But we are normally live on ParaPost Network on Facebook.

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So definitely check that out.

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But Nick, as we get started, while Chris is doing that, I wanted to ask you what got you

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into the paranormal field, my friend?

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So basically, growing up, I grew up in Norwalk, Connecticut.

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I would be laying in my bed and I would see like, you know, spirits or creatures appear

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like a doorway come out and appear.

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trying to protect me from what was there.

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But no, I've had psychic experiences since my earliest thought.

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One of my earliest thoughts was in my other house in Norwalk.

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And, you know, you don't really remember thoughts of being in a crib as a child.

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But this one I remember and I remember it so well.

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I remember the feeling that I got when these these four glowing white silhouette beings

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were standing over my crib.

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I just think that, you know, call me crazy.

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I have a lot.

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I think that they give me gifts.

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That's what I think.

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I think that's great because there's some explanation for it.

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And you know, my partner, Bill Backlickner, it's very I'll get into him soon.

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But I have we have very rare gifts and it was very, very not a coincidence to meet somebody

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who basically does the same exact stuff.

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I mean, it's really crazy, but I'll get into him later.

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But yeah, I mean, I got into this, you know, was traumatizing growing up with this.

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I'll be honest with you.

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I saw all sorts of I remember seeing a bunch of demons coming out of the mirror.

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I don't even sleep with mirrors.

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I haven't slept with the mirror in my room for decades because of that.

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And I see like demons coming out of the mirror, like these little demons.

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And they were like they're coming out of the mirror.

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I've seen that.

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I've had objects being thrown.

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You know what's funny?

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My nephew just told me that he seen like objects moving.

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And he said, and Nona has a ghost.

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That's what he said.

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So I was kind of laughing.

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I was like, were you scared?

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He was like, no.

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The best thing about them is they make something.

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They make me paranormal gear out of toys.

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They're so funny.

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But no, he saw it.

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So a few other people saw it.

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But no, I've had lots of stuff happen up there.

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And you know, I figured fight fire with fire.

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So you know, I started dabbling heavily into the occult.

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So you know, I started becoming very less scared of them.

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So I almost started studying these things.

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And I have a whole book on this that I want to publish soon about like the knowledge,

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the paranormal and the metaphysical knowledge that I learned from not being scared of these

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things anymore.

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And from I'm telling you right now, every night, all until barely could sleep, I would

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see spirits and everything else.

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You know, it was traumatizing.

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these things work.

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Like I just started understanding.

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It's very, very strange.

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And yeah, that started from there.

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And the first place I think I went to was Union Cemetery in Easton.

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And I believe that was back in 2003.

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Because that was the first place I did in that place has tons of spirits.

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And then, you know, me and a former teammate and Peter Sarrow from Ghost Storm.

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We went into Mansfield Training School and that place is so awesome.

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We've had some miraculous experiences in there.

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And that's in Mansfield, Connecticut.

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I've heard about that place.

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It's funny.

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It's funny.

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You mentioned about your nephew saying that and like about the demons coming through

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the mirrors and stuff like that, because there was an incident where my my little cousin,

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she at the time she was little, she's big now.

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But she when she was little, she would always get scared coming in my room because I had

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this massive mirror in my room that was part of my bed.

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And she said that basically she felt like something was always watching her every time

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she went into my room.

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And the house that I was in was my grandmother's and it was very, very active.

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That's where I had all my experiences and how I got into this journey in that place

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and having all the things being thrown across the room, stuff like that.

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So just like you had.

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It's crazy that you said that.

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But also, even Union Cemetery, it's funny because now they're like actually like they

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said, I talked to the town, they say that they're actually prosecuting people for going

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in there after dark if you get caught.

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And I was very shocked.

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And they said that it was because of from the war and stuff that how they came out very

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famously and like people are going there and like ruining graves and stuff.

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And you know, it's sad to hear that.

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Yeah, I got a funny story about that is I think Peter and myself, I think it was around

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2006 one night.

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We actually like jackasses drove the car inside the Union Cemetery and parked at nighttime

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inside cemetery.

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We weren't thinking very clearly.

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All of a sudden, we hear like a noise rush on the bushes and and then also in a spotlight

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gets shined on us.

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And they're like, all right, boys, come on out.

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So the guy was really giving us a hard time.

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He said he was going to tour.

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We were going to get a summons to go to court.

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He took our IDs.

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The guy went to his car.

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His partner comes out of the car.

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This is so funny.

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And he said, yeah, you know, I hate to do this to you guys.

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But ever since Lorraine Ed Warren came here and they were doing their research and their

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stores, people keep coming in.

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And and then I said, who's the who's what's Warren's?

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And he looked at me like this.

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And he said, I'll be right back.

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And he went back to his car.

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And I heard him say, these boys don't know shit.

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Let him go.

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Wow.

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That's street smart.

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That's like my street wisdom right there.

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I'm good right there with that one.

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Now, if you go back, now you're screwed.

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You told the story.

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This cemetery is another good one, too, in Monroe.

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That one's probably even better, to be honest, where Lorraine Ed are actually buried.

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That's where the white lady I get, you know, we we had her cross the road and I swerved

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my car.

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It was so real.

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I had my man and my camera guy, Hector, with us in the car.

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And I was driving them home.

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And this was going towards the I don't know, the highway from Monroe going towards Trumbull.

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And I got on there and all of a sudden this white blanket, this white blanket flew across

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the road.

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The road and I swerved because it really was as real as my shirt.

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It looked like a blanket or a sheet.

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And my face, I just saw the sheet.

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So actually, every time I'm in the area, I get my phone and I put it on the dashboard

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and I actually got something.

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You know, I think I got her.

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Yeah, I think I got her.

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But yeah, tons of experiences like that.

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This stuff is very real.

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We're going through an interdimensional shift right now.

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And what we're experiencing, a lot of people are starting to get open minded with paranormal.

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And it's because like people are starting to naturally evolve into a clairvoyant type,

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a semi clairvoyant type of consciousness.

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And that's why everybody's getting all this stuff.

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And it's like so common now that people are getting this.

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And you know, I think a lot of people could agree that there's definitely an energy shift

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going on and we're evolving.

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I really believe that.

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You know, I think the solar flares have something to do with it.

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I think all this cosmic stuff has something to do with it.

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Yes, I totally agree.

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Have you guys ever investigated in other countries?

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I think in the UK.

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No, I haven't actually.

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No, I wish.

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I wish someday I'll definitely get to that.

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But no, I never did that.

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No, believe it or not.

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Kate's from the UK.

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So yeah.

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Well, the UK is loaded.

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I know Italy is loaded with stuff.

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Yes.

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I know the UK is too popular for that stuff.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to put it on the bucket list.

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There's so much stuff in New England and the East Coast.

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And but definitely I'm from Colorado, so I need to go.

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I want to go to Colorado really badly.

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Oh, now you know somebody come and we'll do it.

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Over there.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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Yeah.

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But what you're saying before, though, about the solar flares and everything like that,

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you're right.

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You know, Earth's going through a complete shift and the energy is different.

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I mean, just by going out and grounding, you could feel the energy.

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You know what I mean?

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Some people, if you're sensitive like myself, you could feel the energy shift on the ground.

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You know what I mean?

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The way that it feels compared to before.

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So you could feel that ascension or whatever you want to call it.

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Everyone becoming more aware of everything.

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More open to the paranormal, more open to the supernatural experiences.

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And I believe it does have something to do with the cosmic stuff and some of the solar

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flares and stuff like that.

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Definitely for sure.

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Yeah.

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And you know what?

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Speaking of cosmic, I just wanted to announce that we're forming a team called Galactic

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Defense.

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We're going after extraterrestrials, UFO and cryptids.

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And we're proud to have AJ on board with that as one of our psychics and probably a photographer

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at the same time.

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And you know, we're going to be going on a long expedition.

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So get ready, my friend.

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We're going to be going on.

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We're going to be going in.

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You know, we're getting these things.

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You know, and you know what my theory, this is with my film that I did for the past four

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years we've been filming.

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And my theory is this, a fisherman, the longer they wait, the longer they'll catch that big

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wise trout in the middle of the lake.

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If you know what I mean.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Host at these three places, these three locations for four years.

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Most people will just go for the weekend and film, but we stayed at these locations and

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you know, we've developed relationships with spirits at these places.

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And there's one in particular, there's one, the one in New Canaan.

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I'm just going to say it because it is funny.

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So there is this lady, she is possessed, actually upstate Connecticut.

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I can't really say where, but we'll just say that.

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Upstate Connecticut.

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There's a lady she was, she's possessed and the entity inside her let us have hours and

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hours of interviewing her and asking questions.

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They had respect.

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They had like respect.

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We had a respect.

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So we have that on film, like a bunch of this, the entity said some wild things and there

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was an incubus inside the house and incubus is a spirit that sexually assaults and an

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incubus is a male form and a succubus is a female.

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Anyway, you know, I think it was after a year or so going to her house, I was up upstairs

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and I was just taking a bunch of pictures and I look and I'm like, no fucking way.

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Excuse my French.

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No, no, please don't.

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Incubus is flashing me.

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I have a photo of this.

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I almost want to share it, but I don't know how to use this format.

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I almost want to share it, but I want to leave it for the film.

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But he has a smile on his face.

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He has like a top hat.

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He's all red and he's flashing me.

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And it's just like, he's just basically, and I know that he didn't want, he was saying

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like, fuck you.

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You're not getting me.

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That's what it was.

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You might as well be whipping up the middle finger, but I have him doing that.

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So we got, we get extreme evidence and you know what?

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We get ourselves into some pretty dangerous situations, but you know, it's not an adventure

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if it doesn't have a little zest of danger.

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You know, it's always going to be an adventure when you throw some danger.

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My finger goes a little too far.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We did it in the hospital one time and that's all I'm going to say.

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Oh yeah.

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We don't want that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If a UFO comes down though, I'm hitting the record button and walking in.

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Absolutely.

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Me too.

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Me too.

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Absolutely.

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100% on that one, man.

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Yeah.

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I forget that's my dumb luck.

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I'd be too busy.

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I'm eating a taco with it or something.

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Cause like we're having a ball.

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You know what I mean?

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Hell yeah.

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Hell yeah.

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You know, I'm all about that, man.

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Like I see, I like to run towards danger and I think that's my problem, but I love to run

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towards danger.

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So I mean, you know, you're the same way, right?

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Oh yeah.

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You can go squatching out here in Colorado.

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That's how you get the stuff.

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What'd you say Chris?

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You can go squatching out here in Colorado.

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We have that up here.

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I mean, I'm sure you have more in Colorado, but.

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I think we call them my big foot here, but.

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Yeah.

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Those things are absolutely real.

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I caught something in orange Connecticut recently.

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I've been going there and you know, those things are real and I believe that they're

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interdimensional creatures and they could shape shift or disappear.

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And that's why nobody could find them.

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Same.

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That's what I believe.

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My friend Colin Askins is the cryptid guy of Connecticut and you know, he goes all over

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Litchfield mainly and there's a whole bunch of stuff up there.

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So that's another thing we're excited to do.

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So I like all that kind of stuff too.

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100%.

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Now, talk a little bit about your background in the occult.

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Okay.

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So yeah, I studied a lot of dark things in the occult, a lot of trial and error.

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And honestly, you know, I'm into right now, you know, I do believe in the Lord Jesus Christ,

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but I do feel like that there's people that were given abilities.

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And you know, if Christianity has like a magic to it, I would be considered, I'd like to

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consider myself some type of a Christian holy man or a shaman perhaps.

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Yeah.

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At this time in my life.

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But no, I have dabbled into some very, very dark things.

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One of the things that I still do is mirror scrying and mirror scrying is when you hold

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candles to the mirror and you look at it and you know, you get into a trance and your face

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starts changing into an entity.

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And actually we did that at Fright Haven.

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Charles Rosanet owned Fright Haven.

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I know you had him on here before, but you don't.

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And there was a upstairs where all the, a mirrored room.

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It was like a dance, old dance studio, but it was all mirrors.

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So it was perfect.

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And we set up about 50 chairs there and I put like a hundred candles in front of all

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the mirrors and we bring the artifacts up.

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And after that, I put everybody into like a shamanic trance and people were seeing their

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relatives coming out of the mirrors.

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It was very cutting edge.

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We did this again at the Bijou Theater and recently we did this at Cadillac Ranch.

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That place is so cool.

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If you guys have never been there, it's a cool cowboy club.

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It's really cool, but they have mirrors over there.

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So we did it over there and it was mind blowing.

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Wow.

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And now I don't know if you know Nick, but the candle and actually candle actually gives

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off a seven Hertz frequency to it.

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I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure.

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I feel you knew about that.

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But what's pretty cool about it is it actually puts your mind into like a theta state, which

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is great for receiving psychic type stuff like for mirror scrying and stuff like that.

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So it's amazing that you use the candle and stuff.

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And a lot of people don't know that about the candle and how when people do meditate

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with candles.

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You can control the candle.

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What was that?

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You could control the flame on the candle too.

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Oh, that's even awesome.

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Tell me a little bit more about that.

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Sure.

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So if you have a candle and you put it about four feet from you and you really like concentrate

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on it and you have to feel the can't the flame move to the left, move to the right and it

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will slightly start doing it.

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And if you want the flame to go bigger, you could actually make it go bigger, but you

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could definitely control that stuff.

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And so that's one of the things about my partner, Bill Backlipner.

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He's another one that you guys should definitely have on him.

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He's wild, dude.

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And we have this ability where we could actually zap people and they feel this energy hit them.

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And we heal tons of people actually.

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We do miraculous things.

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It all comes from the man above.

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I mean, he just wore more vessels and uses this.

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That's the way I see it.

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We heal a lot of people at events.

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Matter of fact, we go out in public and we see an injured person and we'll go up and

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say, do you mind if we do a healing on you?

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And 90% of the time we've been successful at it.

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I mean, when I was doing the, I've been doing the healings for about 14 years now.

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I didn't really take it too serious until the past two years.

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But I'll tell you why.

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I always knew that it was real, but it was hard.

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I was like, I couldn't believe I'm actually healing an injured person.

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It was hard for me.

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I'm like, are these people just messing with me or not?

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But we had at Captain Grant's in, we had Sean Austin and Charles was also part of that.

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And there was an injured man and he said he had a severed knee.

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And I believe that meant that the tendons were all beyond repair and he could barely

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walk.

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He walked with a cane.

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It was hard for him to walk in the graveyard.

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And afterwards I was doing healings on people and he said, would you do one on me?

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And you know what?

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This was the big one.

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I never did a crippled person.

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So I was like, you know what?

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I was a little nervous about it.

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I was like, you know what?

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Okay.

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I spent about five or 10 minutes on healing him.

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The guy gets up, he's jumping up and down the kitchen.

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He's dancing up and down the kitchen.

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That's when I realized, okay, this is real now.

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I mean, these people aren't messing with me.

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And then the guy walked around the whole property and he offered me money and I wouldn't accept

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his money for it.

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But yeah, we do a lot of healings.

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I also do psychic readings and you know, we have an office opening up in Madison.

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It's a healing center and I'm going to be doing it out of there.

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That is amazing.

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I can't wait to see what you do with that man because that is just absolutely amazing.

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Katie, she asked me before, she asked, what is your stance on the pentagram, Nicholas?

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What is your stance on that?

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Well, I do, there is a ritual called the banishing ritual of the pentagram.

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That's pretty cool.

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And you know what?

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It's actually originally a Christian symbol of the five wounds of Jesus Christ, but also

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in the Wiccan religion, they use pentagram and in the Druid.

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You know what?

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00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,080
This is Christian Druid.

504
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,200
Bill and myself are Christian Druids.

505
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,200
That's how I feel.

506
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,720
I have always felt like that.

507
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:48,320
But you know, there's a banishing ritual of the pentagram and that's a Kabbalah meditation

508
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,960
and it's really good to get rid of like negative energy.

509
00:26:52,960 --> 00:27:00,240
It's like lighting sage times 10 when you do that and it takes about 10 minutes to do.

510
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:09,360
And you know, I do, I've definitely done, I think Wicca is very effective.

511
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:17,400
I just worship one God, but the rituals that don't involve dieties, I find them very effective

512
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,400
and I still do that.

513
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:24,000
I have other friends too and I know what they do.

514
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,400
I was going to ask how you combine them.

515
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,680
Well there's this one that I recently did and because I, you know what?

516
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,240
When you get public with this paranormal and I talked to AJ also about this, there's a

517
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,640
lot of haters.

518
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:42,000
There's one that I did a month ago and what you do is, okay, so you could either get,

519
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,120
go to the butcher and get a cow's tongue or you could get red clay and you could make

520
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:49,900
a tongue out of the clay.

521
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:57,000
And what you do is you put sea salt on the tongue and then you roll up the clay or you

522
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:04,260
fold and then you, if you get a screw and you put it through the tongue, so it closes,

523
00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:08,320
so the people will not be able to speak and it actually, it really works.

524
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200
It's not, the magic comes from you.

525
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,520
That's just a little tool to help you manifest that's all it is.

526
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,680
And it's just like, there's another one that's a great one.

527
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,120
If you're having a problem with somebody at work, somebody's giving you a hard time, you

528
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:26,960
get a little jar of honey and you get their picture or you put their name on it and you

529
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:33,140
put it inside the honey and unscrew the cap, that sweetens their personality.

530
00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:40,920
So it's very, most magic is, a lot of people think it's crazy demonic stuff, but it's not

531
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,920
all like that.

532
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,320
Those things are folk magic type of stuff.

533
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,920
My aunt, you say anything paranormal, cryptic, you're the devil.

534
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,320
That's how it was.

535
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,360
I'm 40, gonna be 44 years old this December.

536
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:03,760
And when I was growing up in the 80s and the 90s, people were terrified if you talked about

537
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,400
doing magic, you were looked, people would think you were a freak.

538
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,400
And so I kept it private.

539
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,400
Yeah, no, definitely.

540
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,000
I completely understand that, man.

541
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,400
I kept my experience private for a long time because of that reason, because I thought

542
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,000
I was gonna be locked up in a looney bin.

543
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Nowadays it's open, so it's a little different.

544
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,520
A lot more open.

545
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,480
And you know what, Mike, we accept people of all religious faiths.

546
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,280
We don't judge anybody.

547
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,720
My team Ghost Storm, we're not a religious team.

548
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,080
We're more of an evidence team.

549
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720
Everybody has their own belief that they believe in.

550
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,360
We don't usually bring it to the table.

551
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,360
Absolutely.

552
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,840
We're the same way here at the show.

553
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,320
We have all faiths come on.

554
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Anyone come on.

555
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,080
I was gonna have my friend come on and speak about Hinduism, and we're actually might be

556
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:03,120
having Dr. Colleen Darnell come on, who actually is a hieroglyphic reader.

557
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,600
She's on National Geographic, and she just basically speaks about Egypt.

558
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,920
It's not really a paranormal type thing, but I want her to come on.

559
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,920
That'd be amazing.

560
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:17,200
So we're all about sharing different cultures, different ideas and stuff.

561
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,560
And that's why I like doing this podcast, because we get to meet people like yourself

562
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,800
and other people from different backgrounds.

563
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,840
You met me, AJ.

564
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,840
Yeah, we get to learn from everybody, and I think it's a great, great thing.

565
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,440
But Katie asked real quick, she goes, Wiccan is very interesting.

566
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,560
What is your stance on moon water or of moon water?

567
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,160
It's definitely very powerful.

568
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,520
It's a process where you get a nice crystal glass, and you can put usually a quartz crystal

569
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,480
is good to put on the bottom of it.

570
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:54,800
But the phases of the moon are very important for whatever intentional spell you do.

571
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,680
And I definitely am a fan of that.

572
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,680
Absolutely.

573
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,560
That charges up.

574
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,400
The water is supercharged when you do that.

575
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Actually, you could actually get pre-made bottles that are made just for that.

576
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,440
I live in West Haven.

577
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,520
Yeah, you said West Haven whereabouts?

578
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,160
Yeah, there's a place called Curious Goods in West Haven.

579
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,160
I think they sell it.

580
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,160
Oh, yeah.

581
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,160
That place is really, really good.

582
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,160
Oh, amazing place.

583
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,160
Yeah.

584
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,160
So then what do you do with the moon water afterwards?

585
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680
Because I've never really, I mean, I've seen it, but not really.

586
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,680
Do you drink it?

587
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,920
I mean, you drink it, you can put it back in a natural place like a river.

588
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Okay.

589
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,920
Or you could bury it.

590
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,920
But whatever you want to do with it.

591
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,920
Whatever, yeah.

592
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,920
It's just a supercharged water.

593
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,920
Yeah.

594
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,960
Like I said, I've seen it online, but I've never really.

595
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,480
I want to show you guys something though.

596
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:56,720
I bring some surprises here and I have some paranormal artifacts that I want to show everybody

597
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,720
here.

598
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Please explain.

599
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,920
There we go.

600
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,560
So this came from Santaria Botanica.

601
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:16,400
And she's a pretty dark, darker witch and there's a lot of spirit energy on this deity

602
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,400
right here.

603
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,400
Yeah.

604
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,400
This is.

605
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,400
Cool.

606
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,400
I like that one.

607
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,640
Thank you.

608
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,920
This is a Papa Legba bottle and voodoo and sometimes voodoo.

609
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:35,080
You know, it's a type of orishin, which is a type of spirit.

610
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,400
It's not exactly a god or a goddess.

611
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,360
But a lot of times people, when they put their hand on there and I feel it right now, it

612
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,440
has this pulling sensation like it's trying to pull you down into the bottle.

613
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,920
So there are artifacts that I have that actually do stuff.

614
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,920
Yeah.

615
00:32:52,920 --> 00:33:00,320
This is a Tibetan Buddhist exorcism knife right here.

616
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,320
Wow.

617
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,320
It's pretty cool.

618
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,880
It's actually made of copper, I believe.

619
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,600
I don't even know.

620
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,800
But that is a beautiful piece right there.

621
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,800
This thing is a troublemaker.

622
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Yeah.

623
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,720
You know, I got a story about this one.

624
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,720
You know, we.

625
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,720
Yeah.

626
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,720
You're gonna put forever the doll on us?

627
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,720
Damn.

628
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,920
But this is ragtime, Sam.

629
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,920
I got to fix his mouth.

630
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,600
I have to drill a hole and fix his mouth.

631
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:35,960
But you know, he when I had my museum in Ansonia and right across from the armory, there's

632
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,520
this white church and I rented the space downstairs and I had a museum.

633
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,720
Unfortunately, the coronavirus and you know, the fire marshal shut it down and it was a

634
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,720
nightmare.

635
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:52,560
But, you know, I got this artifact and you know, I've never seen it do anything.

636
00:33:52,560 --> 00:34:00,520
And I do have a friend, two friends named Ed and Kathy, and they came to my museum and

637
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:06,640
you know, her husband, Ed, saw his chest expand like it was breathing and he was completely

638
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,640
fascinated by it.

639
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,520
And I didn't see it.

640
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:17,840
So when I bring this on stage with me and I was doing a little speech about it, blah,

641
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,160
blah, blah, I come off stage, I was signing people's books.

642
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,540
So I put him down so I could sign the books.

643
00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:32,040
After I was done signing the books, I picked him up and he wrapped his hand around the

644
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,040
railing.

645
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,320
I kid you not, I had to yank him in order to pull it out.

646
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,000
So this is a great one.

647
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:47,000
That same day, I had a hater and he always used to walk by my artifacts and diss the

648
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,000
artifacts.

649
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:54,640
And that same day, he was wearing shorts and he dissed the artifacts and he came up to

650
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,760
me and showed me this big scrape on his calf.

651
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:05,320
And you know, he said that the doll reached out and scratched him.

652
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,320
Wow.

653
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,680
I mean, you know, if you're going to make fun of it.

654
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,680
You know, haters be hating.

655
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Paranormal haters be hating.

656
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,680
Yeah, that's it.

657
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,680
I show you now.

658
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,680
I don't though.

659
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:24,520
Yeah, I feel like in this field, Chris, you know this as well as anyone else's as well

660
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:31,840
as we do that this field has more excuse my language, but hypocrites and people who are

661
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:37,320
very much haters in this field of other people's success, very envy of other people's success.

662
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,640
And it doesn't make any sense because it's like, why wouldn't you want to, you know,

663
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,840
be happy for the people that have the success because not only that, maybe you get to work

664
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,320
with them and learn from them and gain your knowledge from them.

665
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,840
If you just put down your ego for one second and we go through this constantly, we've had

666
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,440
it happen on our own show, we've had haters and you know, it's just something sad to see

667
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,320
in this field because if we all work together, can you imagine the power and energy that

668
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,240
we can bring together as a fork?

669
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:10,840
It would be amazing rising water raises all boats or whatever.

670
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,320
Yeah, I agree.

671
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,900
It's a little bit difficult, but I agree.

672
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:16,580
You know, yeah, it's very sad.

673
00:36:16,580 --> 00:36:20,880
You know, it's sad to see, but you know what we do, we do and we do what we can, you know

674
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,880
what I mean?

675
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,880
And that's all we can do.

676
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,120
So, but I'm so tell us what is this thing to do is just let it be.

677
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,240
Yeah, you're right.

678
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,640
But now we have the Edmontown Hall.

679
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,960
It's going to be phenomenal.

680
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,100
Called Paranormal Legends.

681
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:39,480
We have Chris McKinnell, who's the grandson of Ed and Lori and Warren were flying him

682
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,040
up from Peeragway.

683
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,880
We have Joe Frankie.

684
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:49,840
We have Bill Hall, who wrote the book on Linsley Street Bridgeport Poltergeist.

685
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,000
And we have you doing a lecture, a workshop.

686
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:02,280
We have Ghost Hunts East, Terry Nolan, who's a good friend of mine and Amanda, her daughter.

687
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,200
We have another good friend, two brothers, Extreme Paranormal.

688
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,560
They're going to be doing a demo workshop.

689
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,880
And we have Chrissy Chandler, who's a medium and she's going to let Lorraine and Ed Warren

690
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,240
go in her so people could ask them questions.

691
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,240
It's going to be, it's going to be fun.

692
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,720
Yeah, it's going to be cool.

693
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,560
Bill McClendon is going to be doing ghost tours in the jail in the basement.

694
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,200
The place is so cool.

695
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,640
The building gets so much fun to walk around there.

696
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,640
You know, it's loaded.

697
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,640
Send me a picture of AJ.

698
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,640
I want to come.

699
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,640
Where you guys are.

700
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,640
I know.

701
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,600
So wait, I want to ask you a question, man.

702
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,840
What is one of the most frightening experiences that you've ever had as a veteran paranormal

703
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,840
investigator?

704
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,280
Well, you know what, to be honest, you know, I'm so used to it now, but I will say this

705
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:57,040
that we have another case that we did for quite some time in Derby.

706
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:04,440
It's a demon house and it's right by that bar Riverview bar or tavern or whatever it

707
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,560
is right over there.

708
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,960
Right over there is a bunch of houses on the hill.

709
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:18,080
And if you go up there, there's this guy lives there and he was a pyromaniac and he's on

710
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,120
the FBI's most wanted list of jail.

711
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,920
He's still on their list of people to keep an eye on.

712
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,680
So he's not allowed to have anything flammable in the house or anything.

713
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,440
He's against the law firm to have this.

714
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,440
Yeah.

715
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,840
And, you know, he was actually pretty cool, to be honest.

716
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,280
You know what?

717
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,440
For some reason, I have this ability that I've met some pretty evil people doing paranormal

718
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,720
cases and I bring the good out in them.

719
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:49,720
It's very strange.

720
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:55,160
And, you know, this guy was very evil and, you know, him and I bonded very great.

721
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,840
He was completely chill around me.

722
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,640
You know, he was sleeping one time and I have this on video.

723
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,320
It's part of the film and he must have been dreaming.

724
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,920
And all of a sudden we're upstairs and all on the sheetrock.

725
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,360
They started getting these burn marks on the sheetrock.

726
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,080
And I was I'm going to admit I was a little bit intimidated by that because I'm like this

727
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,480
dude is like some fire starter thing going on.

728
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Pyrokinetic.

729
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:36,360
So also, you know, there's been some experiences in Bill Backlickner used to own the most haunted

730
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,080
house in Connecticut called the Zachariah Curtis House.

731
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,080
It's pretty cool.

732
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,640
And there we've had pretty wild experiences in that one.

733
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Wow.

734
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,640
Absolutely.

735
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,360
Please speak about someone if you can.

736
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:55,040
Yeah, I mean, well, you know, there's actually this Native American Indian tribe, their spirits

737
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,040
of them.

738
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:03,720
And, you know, Bill gave an offering to them and he has two of them following him around

739
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:08,700
and they protect him and do all this all this stuff.

740
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:12,920
We were upstairs in the attic and all of a sudden this was in the daylight.

741
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:18,120
And I see this black shadow fly by his face.

742
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:24,920
And I said, dude, that the spirit or the demon just flew by her face and out the window.

743
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,600
And I saw it.

744
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:34,340
And the interesting thing is, five minutes later, we went downstairs and his whole face

745
00:40:34,340 --> 00:40:35,880
started swelling up.

746
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,040
It was like he said it hit him in the face.

747
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:44,400
So it really, really got him very good with a lot of things in there.

748
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,920
But that one's in Trumbull and it's on Nichols Avenue.

749
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,280
It is owned by somebody else now, so I wouldn't suggest going.

750
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,320
But we've had some very good ghosts.

751
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,680
That was probably one of the best ghost tours that we've done.

752
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,680
Wow.

753
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,040
I wonder if they're still experiencing.

754
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,520
I wonder if they're still experiencing, you know, activity there.

755
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,520
Yeah.

756
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,560
You know, it's under construction now.

757
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,560
I know that.

758
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,560
Oh, that makes me better.

759
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,640
There's all sorts of stuff that goes down in that place.

760
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,640
Yeah.

761
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,640
Wow.

762
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,280
We had a lot of people one night one time going in there for a ghost tour.

763
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,280
And there's all sorts of stuff happening to them.

764
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,880
And it was one of the best ones we've ever done.

765
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,160
Chris, go ahead.

766
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,160
Go ahead, man.

767
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,160
I'm good.

768
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,160
I'm good.

769
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,160
OK.

770
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,160
I wanted to ask.

771
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,160
I just didn't want to keep talking over you.

772
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,160
No, you're great.

773
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,240
What do you use for equipment, man?

774
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,880
What's your favorite equipment to use besides yourself?

775
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,880
This.

776
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,720
Let me see here if I got it here.

777
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:47,720
OK.

778
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:53,920
The batteries are dead on here.

779
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,360
This is called a polter script.

780
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:02,320
It's like an obelisk on steroids to see if you might not have much batteries left.

781
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,320
Let's see.

782
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,920
But this thing is awesome.

783
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,360
It's like an obvious device on steroids.

784
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,360
Oh, awesome.

785
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,360
I have that too.

786
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:16,400
You go to the library here and you can use alphabet as well.

787
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,400
Wow.

788
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,960
You can adjust the sensitivity here.

789
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,960
Yeah.

790
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,960
Is that poltergeist?

791
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,960
Wow.

792
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,960
Fact.

793
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,960
It's that fact.

794
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Wow.

795
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,960
Something's coming through.

796
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:40,280
Can you say something to the host of the show?

797
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,280
Something's coming.

798
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,280
Need.

799
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,280
Need what?

800
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,280
Need correct.

801
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,280
Drag.

802
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,280
Drag?

803
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,280
Illinois.

804
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,360
I don't know why I said it.

805
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,360
Need correct.

806
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,360
Drag, Illinois.

807
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:59,320
It could be just spitting out words, but when a spirit comes through, you'll know when

808
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,080
you're going to get an intelligent response from it.

809
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,080
It will start.

810
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,520
I've almost had full conversations with spirits with it.

811
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,000
That's an amazing advice.

812
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,560
Kate, you're from Illinois.

813
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,560
Maybe that means something to you.

814
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,560
Yeah.

815
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,560
It could be.

816
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Keep it on.

817
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,560
I'll keep it on.

818
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,800
But I'm more of a video guy.

819
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,800
I do have equipment.

820
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,440
I like the spirit box as well.

821
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,760
But my thing is I just do infrared video.

822
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:35,120
You know, it's just whenever I get a catch of a ghost, it's like a big catch of a fisherman

823
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,600
of a lifetime catch.

824
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,600
And that's how I feel.

825
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,840
I call it ghost fishing a lot instead of ghost hunting.

826
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,120
Sometimes you catch one.

827
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,560
Sometimes you catch two.

828
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,800
Sometimes you catch a whole school.

829
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,560
And sometimes it's a humble day and nothing happens.

830
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,560
Right.

831
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Just don't bring beer before you do it.

832
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,560
Right.

833
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,560
Yeah, there you go.

834
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,480
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.

835
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,200
You know, that's the one thing that people don't understand because of the TV shows that

836
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,720
like not all the time are you going to get evidence.

837
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:04,720
And that's OK.

838
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:08,320
You know, but like you said, when you go to places like you have and you've been there

839
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,800
for four years and you've not just a weekend, you know, you're going to it's like fishing.

840
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,400
You're going to end up getting something down the line.

841
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,400
You know what I mean?

842
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,400
Dudley town is another.

843
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,400
Yeah, you're absolutely right.

844
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:29,360
The last time we went, I took Bill up there, Bill, Bill Backlifter, my partner up there,

845
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:35,880
Terry, his wife and my wife, we went up there and we went hiking way off out in there.

846
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,680
And there was animals all over the place.

847
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,640
And you know, I've been doing Dudley town for over 20 years.

848
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:50,560
And you know, there is like a loophole to get in there technically, legally.

849
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,200
I'm not going to say what it is, but there is.

850
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:59,600
And you know, I can't get too much into it because, you know, I've we've had the Dudley

851
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:05,000
town people send us a cease and desist for us to stop going on the radio, believe it

852
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,000
or not.

853
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,960
So I get stalked by the people who own the property, believe it or not, actually have

854
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,480
a screenshot proof of being stalked by them.

855
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,680
But yeah, Dudley town is another wild place.

856
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,720
I don't know if I'm going to go up there again.

857
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:28,760
You know, that in Connecticut or it's in Cornwall, Connecticut.

858
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,400
I think maybe I know nothing about back east town.

859
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,560
But no, I've seen creatures up there.

860
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,440
I've had very bizarre experiences.

861
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,680
One time there was when when I always say goodbye to the Dudley town spirits.

862
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:50,720
And one time I was walking down the mountain trail and I see this fern plant go up and

863
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,760
down like it was waving goodbye to me.

864
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,320
And I stood in front of it to make sure there was no wind.

865
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,120
It was literally doing it by itself.

866
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:09,400
Another time, another teammate, Anthony DePietro, we were walking down Dudley town and we walked

867
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:17,960
down dark entry road and probably like a little less than half the way on the way out.

868
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,960
This tree, this hundreds and hundreds, I don't even know how old the tree was.

869
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Thousand years.

870
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,040
I don't know.

871
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,040
It fell for no reason.

872
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,040
Wow.

873
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,480
And it was like, do you realize what just happened?

874
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,480
It didn't really hit me.

875
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,960
And I'm thinking to myself, that's such a rare thing to see.

876
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:35,960
Yeah.

877
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,320
Only happens in Dudley town, this stuff.

878
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:45,000
I know the tree just literally plop and it fell to its death.

879
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,760
After hundreds of years, thousands, I don't even know.

880
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,760
Wow.

881
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,480
I mean, that's a very old forest up there.

882
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,880
So it's ancient, that tree.

883
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,880
And it fell.

884
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,920
I'll never forget that.

885
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:57,920
The stuff that happened.

886
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,920
Yeah.

887
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,920
That's it.

888
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:00,920
And you know what though?

889
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,160
That's a scary thing to happen too, because God forbid, you were near it or something,

890
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,160
you didn't see it coming.

891
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,880
That could have really hurt somebody too, also, but that's a wild thing that happened.

892
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,760
You didn't tie your shoe, or whatever it fell.

893
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,760
Yeah, right.

894
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,760
Yeah.

895
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,760
Definitely.

896
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:16,760
So, go ahead, Chris.

897
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,760
You have a question?

898
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,760
I did not.

899
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,760
I had one for a second and I lost it.

900
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,760
I feel you, man.

901
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,760
We're talking about so much right now.

902
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,760
I know.

903
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,760
It's amazing though.

904
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,760
This guy's amazing.

905
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,760
Nice, dude.

906
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,760
Nick is a great man.

907
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,720
I've been dying to have him on for a long time now.

908
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:34,720
So I'm super happy.

909
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:35,720
It's been an honor to have you, man.

910
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:38,360
Thank you for spending the time with us.

911
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,360
You got it, brother.

912
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,160
I wanted to ask, what other events are you putting on?

913
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,600
I know you have an event that's coming up in Salem, Mass, you said?

914
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:53,320
We have a cult paragon, and that's at NP Body on the Salem line.

915
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,760
It's at the Oleo Theater.

916
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,960
It's $20 a ticket.

917
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:04,440
We have witches and warlocks and magical practitioners sharing what they believe in the afterlife.

918
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:10,120
And because they have a whole different spin on it, a lot of them, and we want people to

919
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,600
be aware of that knowledge.

920
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:19,440
And we're going to be displaying the Paranormal Artifact Museum at both places, in Edmontown

921
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,320
Hall and a cult paragon.

922
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,000
After that, we're probably going to be doing ghost tours, like running a bunch of ghost

923
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000
tours.

924
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:34,760
And then, well, most likely to a convention once or twice a year.

925
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,760
The same stuff.

926
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:36,760
Yeah, it's fun.

927
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,760
It's a lot of fun.

928
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,880
I love teaching people.

929
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,960
I like sharing my knowledge with people on this stuff.

930
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,760
It's definitely been a wild adventure.

931
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,760
That's cool.

932
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,440
You have so much knowledge, too, man.

933
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,440
Thank you, man.

934
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,440
Thank you, brother.

935
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,440
Yeah, he does.

936
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,480
One thing I did want to ask you, when we were talking on the phone, we were talking about

937
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,360
the afterlife a little bit and what happens.

938
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,760
Is this a school or whatever?

939
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,760
Why do we get reincarnated here?

940
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,440
Why do we come in this physical existence?

941
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,360
Out of all your knowledge, out of all the years of you doing this, what is your take

942
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,360
on it?

943
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,000
Your personal opinion on what is the afterlife and why we come here and everything like that,

944
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,080
if you can maybe put a stance on it.

945
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,080
Yeah, from my knowledge, this is a school that's not to be taken too seriously.

946
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,760
I don't care how bad your life is.

947
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:33,680
This is a learning experience and we have to learn lessons in order for us to have,

948
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,480
like we have birthdays here.

949
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,320
We have birthdays here every year.

950
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:43,400
We could consider our lifetime a birthday for the soul and you grow up and mature.

951
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:48,800
This is a school here and it's really more of an illusion than anything else.

952
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,560
You do have somewhat control of the illusion going on.

953
00:49:54,560 --> 00:50:01,240
But, no, I do believe that there may be a hell, but I think it's for very bad people

954
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:07,200
and I think it's only temporary and I think that's a learning experience too.

955
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,360
Afterlife is perfect.

956
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,260
I mean, I've had an experience where I've had an ego death happen to me and I thought

957
00:50:14,260 --> 00:50:16,400
I died and I was in heaven.

958
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,400
That's what I thought.

959
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,840
It was so perfect.

960
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,240
The feeling that I got was so perfect.

961
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:25,520
I literally questioned, did I die in a car accident by coming here?

962
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,080
And I said, Lord, if this is the afterlife, don't send me back.

963
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,480
And it was a perfect frequency.

964
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,900
It was a perfect feeling and my life has changed since then.

965
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:43,200
I have had experiences like my friend passed away in front of me of brain aneurysm.

966
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:51,240
I was heartbroken by it and one night I went to sleep and I can tell you that this was

967
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,240
not a dream.

968
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,440
It felt too real.

969
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,320
I was at a lake and there was a picnic bench and he was chilling on the picnic bench and

970
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,040
he said, Nick, I'm fine up here.

971
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,440
The sand is so perfect.

972
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,320
There's no rocks or shells in the sand.

973
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,320
It's so smooth.

974
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,800
And I looked at the lake and the lake was like a crystal glass.

975
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,040
It was perfectly straight and peaceful.

976
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,040
There was no waves.

977
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,440
It was very peaceful.

978
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:20,400
And ever since then, I've been having experiences like when I was on my honeymoon, I missed

979
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,400
there.

980
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:27,680
I had a very close friendship with one of my pets, dogs, Gizmo as a kid.

981
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,600
And that's part of my story.

982
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,680
She was a learning experience for me, but I've always missed her for a long time since

983
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:35,800
1994.

984
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,520
She actually ran away from me.

985
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:43,200
She ran away from my home and we couldn't find her for whatever reason, but it was part

986
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,400
of my growth experience.

987
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:50,680
But anyway, on my honeymoon, I was trying to look for gators in Florida and I was chilling,

988
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,120
you know, trying to throw rocks in the ponds and all that stuff.

989
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:59,040
And it says, you know, it would be great to see Gizmo again.

990
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,320
And that night, my grandmother came to me and she came to me.

991
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:09,960
It seemed like in this limbo type of void like area between the afterlight and here.

992
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,240
And she said, here's your dog.

993
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:12,240
Here's your dog, Nick.

994
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,840
And I pet my dog and I stopped being sad about the dog.

995
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,800
But you know, that dog meant a lot to me.

996
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,880
She's part of the story, trust me.

997
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,840
But that dog had to run away for me to learn.

998
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,120
I'm convinced.

999
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,120
I'm convinced.

1000
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,120
So a whole bunch of stuff.

1001
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,120
Yeah.

1002
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,400
The contrast that we experience in life and this is something we talked about Nick on

1003
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,840
the phone, like I was telling you, like how the spirit said to me, the contrast we experience

1004
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,320
in life is for our growth and for our soul's growth.

1005
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,680
And you know, even though we look at it in such a negative manner and our minds go to

1006
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,720
that default of negativity always because of our surroundings and how we grow up and

1007
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:51,120
all that kind of stuff.

1008
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,720
But it's really for our growth.

1009
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:56,560
And you know, when you start looking at it from a different perspective, like how you

1010
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:02,000
did, I believe that that's where the growth comes from, is from looking at it from a different

1011
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,000
perspective.

1012
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,080
And I really love how you said that, that it was part of your growth.

1013
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,080
Yeah.

1014
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,080
And you know what?

1015
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,080
We have a different identity up there than our names here on earth.

1016
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,520
And you know, what they do is when they send you back, they wipe you clean, your memory

1017
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:22,200
clean and they wipe you of your abilities too, because we're actually, we're not pathetic

1018
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,280
cursed human beings.

1019
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,280
I'm sorry.

1020
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,680
Dr. I think you could agree with me, like you've experienced similar stuff.

1021
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:34,360
We're not pathetic, cursed human beings that need to suffer and all this stuff.

1022
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,360
And you know what, we're some, we're actually spiritual beings.

1023
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,320
We are actually are very spiritual.

1024
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:46,600
And that's why it's important for them to give us a regular old ordinary life here on

1025
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:52,200
earth and wipe us clean of our spiritual abilities and our identity.

1026
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,360
And when you cross over, it's all going to make sense.

1027
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,360
And you know what?

1028
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,680
Death, I look at death as an achievement.

1029
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,840
I don't look at it as a sad thing.

1030
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,080
We're only for a temporary purpose.

1031
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,080
It's not forever.

1032
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,680
And death is an achievement.

1033
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:12,120
And death happens when you have achieved your life lessons, all your lessons.

1034
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,360
That's when death happens.

1035
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,980
And that's why, you know, they say the good die young.

1036
00:54:15,980 --> 00:54:19,920
So that does make sense sometimes in a sense.

1037
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:20,920
Death is an achievement.

1038
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,520
It's not a sad thing.

1039
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,080
Death should be celebrated.

1040
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,840
And you're only going to be here for a temporary amount of time.

1041
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,640
You know, that's like this.

1042
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,840
It goes just like that.

1043
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:32,840
Exactly.

1044
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,080
You know, so the death is an achievement.

1045
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,080
That's how I look at it.

1046
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,080
Absolutely.

1047
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,240
But you know, they wipe you clean of your memory.

1048
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:42,680
They wipe you of your abilities up there.

1049
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,680
Yeah.

1050
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,920
Yeah.

1051
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,560
That's why it's so shocking when you see these young children that come back and they have

1052
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,640
these reincarnation stories and it makes you wonder like how come their minds weren't

1053
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,160
like completely wiped clean and how come they remember.

1054
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,680
And I think it's our spirit's way of trying to show us like, listen, like you are more

1055
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,240
than what you really are.

1056
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:06,760
And like, yeah, that's why they do it through children because, you know, it says, you know,

1057
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,080
just like it says in the Bible, like have childlike faith.

1058
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,800
And I believe that what they're trying to say through that is, you know, that imagination

1059
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,360
we had as a kid, that belief we had as a kid and everything, and then we get older, we

1060
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,560
get like hardened kind of almost because of our surroundings and the way we grow up and

1061
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,840
our parents telling us, oh, it's just an imaginary friend or all this kind of stuff.

1062
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,760
But in reality, we are so much more than just that.

1063
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,100
Like each cell in our body gives off a point zero zero one of a volt.

1064
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:37,880
So you figure we have 30 trillion cells, roughly.

1065
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,360
We're like a walking nuclear power plant.

1066
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,240
That energy can't be destroyed.

1067
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:47,520
So imagine, imagine what we are, you know, if we all if we really put our and we're able

1068
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,520
to control that energy and control our abilities, what we can actually accomplish, especially

1069
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,600
when it says in the Bible, when two or more gather here, he's there in his name.

1070
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:03,120
I believe that means when two people are together and they put their energy together, the possibilities

1071
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,000
are endless of what we can achieve.

1072
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,880
And that's why I love working with people like yourself and other people that come on

1073
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,760
the podcast, because that knowledge that can be spread can be just so empowering to other

1074
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,760
people.

1075
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,440
So but yeah, man.

1076
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,120
So I'm super excited, man.

1077
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,120
Thank you so much for coming on.

1078
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:26,440
After these two events, we're going to start we're going to start up our our expedition

1079
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,640
after these two events.

1080
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:33,960
So please shout out the event coming up again on October 20th and also the Salem one.

1081
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,520
So everyone can are the body.

1082
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:43,060
October 12th, a cult paracon, Peabody, Massachusetts, right on the Salem line.

1083
00:56:43,060 --> 00:56:47,880
Everybody who buys a ticket could also join us on a complimentary ghost hunt.

1084
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,680
After the event, we're going to go somewhere in Salem.

1085
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,280
So everybody from the convention that's bought a ticket, it could join Bill and myself on

1086
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,280
a ghost hunt.

1087
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:04,000
But and we also have Edmontown Hall, Newtown, Connecticut Paranormal Legends Festival, October

1088
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,200
20th, that's going to be really, really, really good.

1089
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,780
Both of them are going to be really good.

1090
00:57:08,780 --> 00:57:09,960
We hope to see you.

1091
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,880
We always believe in originality and putting on cutting edge events.

1092
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,320
And we we don't copy people.

1093
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,600
We do our own thing.

1094
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,760
We were creative, creative people.

1095
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,360
You know, we're originality always originality.

1096
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,360
That's my motto.

1097
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,360
Nice.

1098
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,360
You know,

1099
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:34,160
we got shown the road out here and we can go do some stuff.

1100
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,160
Amen to that, though, brother.

1101
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,360
I said, bring that show on the road and bring it out here and we'll go.

1102
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,360
Yeah.

1103
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:41,360
Cool.

1104
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,360
But anything else you'd like to say real quick, Nick, before we head out?

1105
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,360
Yeah.

1106
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:54,000
I mean, right now we got a lot of stuff going on and, you know, it's going to be great.

1107
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:00,000
I just want to leave you guys with one last drop you guys some knowledge if you guys are

1108
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,000
ready for the audits.

1109
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:08,560
I put a spell on you because you're mine.

1110
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,560
Not the things that you do.

1111
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,560
Yeah.

1112
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,560
All right.

1113
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,560
I love it.

1114
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,560
You know that song.

1115
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,560
I love it.

1116
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,560
Don't cry, baby.

1117
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,560
Hey, I love it.

1118
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:19,560
I love it.

1119
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:20,560
I love it.

1120
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,560
I love it.

1121
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,560
I love it.

1122
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,560
I love it.

1123
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,560
I love it.

1124
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,560
Stop taking life too seriously.

1125
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,800
We're all guilty of it.

1126
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,040
Even myself, we take life way too serious.

1127
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,760
Just think of that song and you're going to be, you know, good.

1128
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,760
You're right.

1129
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,760
You're right.

1130
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,680
Well, Nick, thank you so much, man, for joining us.

1131
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,120
I truly appreciate it, brother.

1132
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:44,120
I look forward to seeing you on the 20th and also getting involved with the whole galactic,

1133
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,800
you know, it's going to just be amazing.

1134
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,800
It's going to be amazing.

1135
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,360
We're going in, bro.

1136
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,360
I'm excited, brother.

1137
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,040
Well, hey, thank you so much for joining us, my man.

1138
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,240
And we will see you definitely soon because we'll have you on again.

1139
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,640
And we'll definitely bring Bill on with you next time for sure.

1140
00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:59,640
Sounds like a plan, man.

1141
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,120
All right, my man.

1142
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,160
Thank you so much for stopping by.

1143
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,160
God bless, brother.

1144
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,160
God bless, man.

1145
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,160
Peace, spirit, fingers.

1146
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,160
I don't know.

1147
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,160
All right, man.

1148
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,160
Let me pull back up the layout real here.

1149
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,160
Yeah, I'm trying to.

1150
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,160
Tell me, what did you think, man, of this amazing, amazing show, brother?

1151
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,160
I love having Nick on, man.

1152
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,160
He's amazing.

1153
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,160
I just first got to see him.

1154
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,160
I love him.

1155
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,160
I love him.

1156
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,160
I love him.

1157
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,160
I love him.

1158
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,160
I love him.

1159
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,160
I love him.

1160
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,160
I just first got to have him on, but I get to talk to him all the time.

1161
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,520
And I tell you, man, he's been an amazing friend of mine for a while now.

1162
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,520
And he's just very knowledgeable.

1163
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:31,520
Time flew, man.

1164
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,080
Dude, time flew, bud.

1165
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,160
I was upset because there's so much more I wanted to talk about with him.

1166
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,840
But I just, you know, we go for an hour because if we go too long, you know, people kind of

1167
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,840
like lose interest.

1168
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,000
So I don't want to, you know, go for too long.

1169
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,520
But that's why we have him on again, man, you know?

1170
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:47,520
Again and again and again.

1171
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,520
Again, again and again.

1172
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:49,520
You know how it is.

1173
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,520
I love these people.

1174
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,520
Yeah.

1175
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:52,520
Wante, thank you so much.

1176
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,520
I love the great podcast Wante says.

1177
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:56,520
Yeah.

1178
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:57,520
Thank you so much, Wante.

1179
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,520
We appreciate that.

1180
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,520
Thanks, Wante.

1181
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,520
You can get back on too sometime, Wante.

1182
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,520
And bring Scott with you.

1183
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,520
Yeah, for sure.

1184
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,520
Absolutely.

1185
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,520
And I tell you what, man, until next time, join us.

1186
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,680
Actually, like I was going to say, anyone in Connecticut, join us like Nick was saying

1187
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:20,120
on October 20th, Paranormal Legends Convention with special guests Chris McKennell and Joe

1188
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,680
Frank from the Warren Legacy Foundation.

1189
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:28,240
It's Sunday, October 20th, 2024, 11 a.m. to 6 p.m.

1190
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:33,080
As you see on the screen, there's going to be vendor fair, haunted artifact museum, psychic

1191
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,320
and mediums.

1192
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:39,000
I'm going to be speaking at the paranormal workshops and investigations in the haunted

1193
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,000
jail cell.

1194
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:46,200
So just go to www.edminhall.org and you can find out more information about it.

1195
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,200
Can you stream that, AJ, so I can watch you?

1196
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,200
Yeah, definitely, man.

1197
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,400
I'll have one of my friends that are coming with me definitely steered for you so you

1198
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:54,400
can see it.

1199
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,400
Cool, cool.

1200
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,360
So but yeah, man, so we're looking forward to a lot this year and I can't wait.

1201
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,040
It's going to be great.

1202
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,440
And coming 2025, we have some amazing stuff coming then too.

1203
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,440
But one thing I do want to speak about before we leave is global ghost hunt.

1204
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,040
If you are a paranormal researcher or you have a team and you want to sign up to the

1205
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:21,360
global ghost event or if you don't know what the global ghost event is, go to www.globalghosthunt.com.

1206
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:28,680
Basically we stream live paranormal investigations from haunted locations, from teams, from around

1207
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:29,680
the world.

1208
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,880
We all get together and we share our live investigations.

1209
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,560
And I tell you what, it's absolutely amazing.

1210
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,760
You want to be a part of it.

1211
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:44,040
So go to www.globalghosthunt.com and join us this October.

1212
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,680
And it's going to be for 10 days.

1213
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,560
It's going to be absolutely amazing.

1214
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,400
So don't miss out.

1215
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,880
But thank you so much, Chris, for joining me for this.

1216
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,640
Again, we wish John well.

1217
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,040
Love you, John.

1218
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,160
Love you, John.

1219
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,880
And you know, we will definitely be back soon.

1220
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,600
So we'll see you next Sunday.

1221
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,560
But to everyone out there, thank you so much again for joining us.

1222
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,560
Thank you.

1223
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,560
Until next time.

1224
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:14,240
I'm AJ Capasso of Talking with the Source and I'm with my good friend, Chris.

1225
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,240
And I'm with AJ.

1226
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,240
All right, my man.

1227
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,240
Talk to you soon.

1228
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,240
Thanks guys.

1229
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,240
Later.

1230
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,240
See you.

1231
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:39,920
See you.