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What's going on everybody?
My name is AJ Capasso, host and founder of Talking with the Source and I'm here with
the other founder and host, my best friend, Jonathan Kieworth of JK47 Paranormal Investigations.
John, what is going on my brother?
Dude, what's up man?
Just had a crazy night.
We went and investigated Holy Cross Abbey for the last time.
They're going to be shutting it down in June.
So it's basically going to rot away is what we heard.
So it's kind of sad.
I love investigating that place and I just want to say thank you to Dennis Batchelor
and Sean Crochet for allowing me to come and investigate.
Gretchen's in the house, what's up Gretchen?
Hi.
And yeah dude, it's kind of sad but you know life goes on.
You just got to keep going forward living the now man.
Absolutely, absolutely man.
And I'm so sad to hear about the Abbey but another thing happened, our other host Chris,
he actually as he was coming out of what area?
Do you want to explain what happened to him when he got attacked?
So Chris is, we've investigated that place together like four or five times and we were
down in the basement and they were doing a session in this room where there's a crawl
space and Sean, he said that's where the the bad man hangs out is in that crawl space.
So I went upstairs because my knee started hurting and was having trouble walking and
stuff and not even like 15 minutes later they came up and then all of a sudden he went pale
like white, like his face was white as paper and he couldn't walk, couldn't do 10 steps.
So what Sean was saying is that that thing attached to him, they went to, he went to
the hospital everything we had to call the paramedics and they came up with the stretcher
and stuff and I was helping them.
Garrett Wotley, he was a fireman from Massachusetts there on the investigation and he helped tell
911 what was going on.
So yeah, so thank you Wotley and I appreciate your help with that.
You know, Chris is a good friend, he's a good guy, he didn't deserve that but once he got
to the hospital they basically said he had a panic attack.
Yeah, which is really weird and kind of coincidental with some kind of a spiritual attack because
I've had them say that to me when I've had spiritual attacks like, oh it's just a panic
attack but Gretchen, he is doing well, he contacted us.
He actually was going to be staying live and you know he got out of the hospital immediately
came on to be live on the show.
We were like no, go home, go rest, you need to take today off but he like really wanted
to come on.
So we had to tell him no but anyway, long story short though, he's doing alright.
Thank you guys so much for asking, we really appreciate it.
Thank you Gretchen.
But we have an amazing guest today and I want to bring him forward.
He is an amazing person.
I'm going to let him explain all the stuff that he's involved in because between Connecticut
Paracon, between Drak Tours, between the book, I mean just there's so much stuff that Charles
Rosinay does, it's absolutely amazing so let me bring him forward, a great friend of ours,
Charles Rosinay, let me bring him forward.
Great to finally be on the show guys, thank you.
Great to have you my friend, great to have you.
So please, I didn't want to mess up this intro, I want to let you tell everybody a little
bit about yourself my friend.
Oh my gosh, well as you can see by the background which I haven't pointed out before, I'm a
monster kid, you know, grew up loving the Universal Monsters and my big passions growing
up was horror movies and the Beatles, rock and roll and all that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was able to sort of like make them both my life in that I do as you mentioned, Dracula
Tours to Transylvania, 25 years strong and the Beatles Tours to Liverpool for Beatle
fans.
So both of my passions and my loves really came together well in a lot of the stuff I
do.
But the past 10 years the horror has veered towards the paranormal and the supernatural
and having been someone who produced conventions for so many years, it was a natural segue
into producing the paranormal conventions, even before like the Warrens who put on that
great show in the Mohegan Sun and all that for these past few years and I think are moving
it out to Gettysburg this year.
Kind of got a jump on that a few years back right after COVID and did Connecticut's first
paranormal convention over at the Ansonia Armory and you know, expected you know, a
few hundred people and had you know, whatever, 2000.
Oh it was crazy.
I mean I was there that first year at the Armory.
I mean I know last year you also had there right as well.
You had it for three years.
Three years?
Okay because that was the first year I went.
I didn't get to go the last two.
So yeah the first year was like oh my it was beyond belief.
It was crazy.
So third year we moved it from the summer to May because all the vendors were saying
gets hot in this Armory, there's no air conditioning and we you know, so we planned it like eight
months in advance never realizing it was Mother's Day weekend.
So no one wants to set up in the sun.
We made it one show.
So we'll take a step back.
We'll re-analyze things and this year having it in July like we always where we want it
where it's always been very successful but moved to a different location that has air
conditioning.
So this year July 20th to the 21st Paracon 4, Connecticut's original paranormal convention
is moving to the Baldwin Center in Stratford which is a great location.
Clean mind next to the library, a ridiculous amount of parking, just the right setup.
It can fit all the vendors we want, special guests and then there's a separate room for
talking.
We're adding a few new dimensions to the event.
We're going to have a film festival, a screening room where we can show you ghosts, you know
the great shows that everyone loves and also some movies.
And then while the event is going on we're going to do a ghost walk because there's a
very special location nearby that we're going to take people to.
So every hour on the hour people who want to break away will be able to actually do
an actual walk paranormal walk and investigation.
So I'm really excited about this year and tickets are going well.
Vendors are packing it up and the guests are really excited.
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
No, no, no, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
That is so awesome.
I get excited too, man.
I'm excited myself.
I mean I'm a Connecticut resident so I get super excited for this.
But you said July 20th or what did you say it was July 20th?
July 20th through the 21st.
Okay, 20 through the 21st.
I just want to put it on the screen for everyone.
Oh please.
At the Baldwin Center, right in Stratford, Connecticut.
Stratford, Connecticut.
That place is close to my heart anyway because as you guys probably know I was the founder
and owner and ran a haunted attraction called Fright Haven for those many years sold it
around COVID but Stratford is my location.
So I was there every night during Halloween season welcoming people and scaring the pants
off them.
Wow.
I think it's great, man.
You're doing these ghost walks every hour on the hour so you make sure everybody gets
the experience, you know, that fabulous location, you know, and the fact that you're doing that,
you know, they can come back when after the paracon if they want to investigate more,
you know, and that's awesome, man.
That whole area has got a lot of very, very cool haunted sites but one in particular,
I want to give it away completely, but we've done a paranormal investigation of it before
and made a night of it and people just wow, this was an amazing location.
So yeah, that's why one of the reasons we picked this place but as silly as it is, air
conditioning was so crucial because I love that and Sonya Armory and hopefully we'll
go back there someday if they ever bring back, if they ever add AC to the place.
But we did, we were about a four or five month search.
It was myself and Tom Gormley who's my new partner and the shaman and the showman.
We'll get him on your show.
He's actually, he's here.
Hold on, hold on.
Here he is.
He's there.
The better half, he says.
Watch out.
Oh.
Couldn't you have timed that better?
Could we have timed that better?
Yeah, right.
Yeah, he was, him and I were literally looking at so many places throughout the state and
considering this one and weighing this one and we think everyone's going to really, really
love this location in Strafford.
That is awesome.
Yeah.
I'm pumped.
Places on the East coast there.
I mean, that's where all our history, you know, as a country, it was all developed there
on the East coast.
So there's got to be so many locations that you can do.
I would love to have that option.
You know, I'm out in Colorado.
I got Stanley in the Abbey.
But you know, they are ways good options, you know, like we have some great stuff up
here, but then we also do love other Colorado stuff.
You know, right trials, you know, we get it.
And I heard about the amazing, you know, results you just had at the Abbey and to hear, you
know, someone who had what they're going to call obviously a panic attack or whatever,
you know, that's, that's an easy way out to explain something that's not explainable.
You know, you know, what's crazy, man, when the paramedics came up, they're like, what
are you guys doing in here?
We're like, we're investigating and they're like, what paranormal stuff?
And they're like, Oh, okay.
And you could, I could feel their fear, you know, like I'm an impact.
They're like, I don't want to be in here.
It was crazy.
That's always great.
Always great.
Um, I wanted to actually ask you, what is, um, like some requirements to be a vendor
at the paracon?
You know, we're pretty flexible.
You know, if someone's selling merch, it's cool.
If they're a reader or a psychic and they want to set up and read on the spot, whether
it's tarot cards, whether it's, um, leaves, whether it's crystals, palms, we're open to
that.
So we get a nice mix of the people who are selling horror stuff, the people who are selling
paranormal equipment, Ouija boards, you know, pretty much across the board.
We got a little carried away second or third try.
I forgot we had like 80 vendors and it was really, really ridiculously packed.
So we're going to go back to like that 50 is a very, where, you know, people, you know,
nowadays I don't know if people have enough cash to go around to 80 vendors and really
support them all.
Yeah.
You know, I want them all to do well.
You know, I'm on the other side of it a lot too.
I, last weekend I was at the chiller convention in New Jersey and I got a lot of shows where
I'm a guest author and I, you know, signed copies of my book.
And I know if I'm in a room with another a hundred or if I'm in a room with 50, there's
a big difference because there's, and when you get guests and certain guests, you know,
sign and they bring their books or their time and photos or they have DVDs to sell.
You know, you got to make a choice.
We come with a hundred bucks in your pocket.
You know, that's going to go pretty quickly.
You have five tables and it's like, Oh man, where's the ATM?
There's so much more stuff I want to get here.
And I know it from both sides.
So yeah, we're going to, we're going to, um, all the VIPs and all the very special guests
will have their own dedicated room where fans can go see them, meet them.
You know, people want pictures.
They want pictures with the guests.
They want to tell, they want to tell their experiences to, for lack of a better word,
not experts, but people who are living it every single day.
And someone who walks off the street from a Bridgeport or Milford or wherever they're
coming from to go to the show and they've had an experience.
They're there for that reason.
You know, they can't pick up a phone and just, you know, dial 911.
Hi, can you connect me to a paranormal investigator?
There's no yellow pages for that.
These conventions actually serve a really good purpose.
People walk in those doors and you see on their faces that, yep.
Like I'm not crazy.
Right.
I mean, it's an amazing feeling.
AJ, you hit it right.
It's a, it's a shared kindred experience.
And here from many years, I was the, the, in the pair in the shaman and the showman.
Yeah, I'm the showman.
I'm the schmoozer, the guy who's plays the skeptic plays the non-believer, but living
this and breathing it and being part of it and getting smacked in the face over and over
with, you know, experiences.
I can't play that role anymore.
I have to have to say I was that, but now I'm that.
And even in my book, you know, my, my, my, my ghost stories book, three of the chapters
are mine because I had, you know, my own experiences that I wanted to share.
And yeah, people walk in no doubt in there.
Like this is it.
This is where I need it to be.
This is where I can tell about what's happened to me and, and, and find out from other people
that I'm not crazy.
Yeah, no, exactly.
And I think that that's why these conventions are so important because, and I, and I'm so
happy that I'm happy in a way and I'm not happy in a way about how big the paranormal
has got.
I'm not happy in a way at the fact of where YouTube has brought it now because of the
people who are faking it and turning the field into a joke, which I don't like, but I'm so
happy that it's blown up to where these conventions are happening, where someone good like yourself
is doing this kind of stuff because it's making people who are having these experiences that
they don't know where to go to, that they can go somewhere and realize I'm not crazy.
Like there's something really going on.
There's something more than, than there is to this world.
And you know, it's so great to have all these vendors that can teach them things like from
the tarot readings to crystals.
I mean, you name it, all the stuff that I saw when I was there, it's just absolutely
amazing.
The reason why I asked you about requirements for guests and stuff like that is because
we were actually going to contact you about seeing about for the next year's one for having
global ghost hunt come down because we've been having a lot of success with bringing
global ghost hunt and help saving a lot of these locations that are around.
And another reason why too is I don't know if you know them, but my friends from the
Anfield demon house have been asking me about the paracon and wanting me to ask you, you
know, if they were ever welcome to ever like put in their name.
And I wanted to ask you what you thought, you know, what your opinion was.
So I think Tom's in touch with them already about possibly coming up and being in.
I know there's some controversy going on with that particular location and there's some
people who are saying, well, I don't know.
I don't know.
I get what you're saying.
I heard all the controversy stuff in this crazy business.
There's a lot of silliness.
My whole you'll understand what I'm saying when I, when I explained to you, when I started
fright Haven and we're talking about, you know, 15 years ago when it was originally
West Haven, all the haunted attractions were enemies and they fought bitterly.
And then you go online and even at the beginning of Facebook, you would see, don't go to that
place.
They don't scare you there.
And I'm like, why are they doing this?
And it was one of my missions and I succeeded was to bring all the haunted attractions to
the point where you go to one on a weekend, you have a great time.
The next weekend, the next October weekend, you're going to want to go to another one.
You're going to want to feed off each other.
It's logical.
Yeah.
Every paranormal group should be recommending the next paranormal group.
Every location that has a successful event, a group shouldn't say, well, that was it.
We're exclusive.
No one else.
It should be open and it drives me crazy.
The what goes on community, para community, even that.
And the irony of it is I had a partner and we're no longer together.
And I know I know I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it either.
I still don't know why.
And it's sad because here are the one who preaches the para unity and who tries and
strives so hard to make sure everyone gets along and his friends.
You know, sometimes it just doesn't work out that way.
You know, that's just what happens in this field, though.
You know, it's sad that as paranormal researchers, we decide that we are a lot a lot of people
are more about the fame aspect becoming the next Zach Bagans with their with their evidence
than they are worried about what the whole point of why they got into this field in the
first place.
And it's just sad to see how the money or the money nowadays with how YouTube pays people
now and all that stuff.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
I'm not against people making money and doing their doing what they do because I have friends
that are mediums and make a lot of money and I'm happy for them.
But you know, it's like the moral behind what you're doing.
If we all work together, we would accomplish so much, you know, and it's just like and
there's room for everybody.
It's not, you know, it is an exclusive club.
So tell me, tell us a little bit about your book, my friend, and tell us where we can
get our hands on it and where whereabouts it is, please.
Happen to have one in my hands, right?
Oh, yeah.
It's two ghost stories of Connecticut.
You know, it came out just in time, I think, for the second paracon.
And what was so cool about it is about 30 chapters, probably 25 of the chapters, the
people who wrote the chapters for me and I'm going I'm jumping ahead because I want to
tell you how it came about.
We're at the con.
We're at the paracon.
So what was amazing is people were getting the book signed by me and then it was like
a scavenger hunt.
I went to vendor to vendor to vendor to vendor getting others to sign the book, which never
happened.
So that's awesome.
The criteria for me to put that together, this book, because there were other books
that told you some of the haunted places in Connecticut or where they were or what their
history was.
I wanted to put together a book where we learned what happened to people at these places.
And I reached out to people who I thought were very respected individuals in our paranormal
community.
And I said, listen, I don't want you to bullshit me.
I don't want you to tell me a smooth story.
I want you to tell me the truest, most unbelievable, unexplained occurrence that happened to you.
The criteria is that it was true and that it happened with connection to Connecticut.
And you know, literally within half a year, I had the most amazing stories and put it
together in this book, which is available from Amazon, of course, you can get it on
Amazon at all the conventions we do and through www.paranormalconnecticut.com is the website
for the book.
But the Shaman and the Shoman, Tom and I do a lot of libraries.
We do a lot of library appearances where I tell my history, how I got involved in going
from a horror guide to the paranormal world.
He talks about his 40 year history of being an investigator and being on cases and all
that plus his criminology and of things, which brings it all together.
And then, you know, we sign and answer questions.
And just the same way you mentioned people go to a paracon for that reason that they
need to connect with.
The first thing I ask at one of these library appearances, how many of you believe in ghosts
and literally every hand goes up?
How many of you have had a paranormal experience or an unexplained supern- the rest of the
hands go, it's unbelievable.
And then I asked them to talk, you know, give out, they know what I'll talk.
But when it's over, when it's done, it's a beeline and I'm hoping, all right, they're
coming to get the book signed.
No, I got to tell you about my house.
That's the first, it's always that first.
I got to tell you about my house.
Where do you live?
And what happens?
It's always a unique story.
That is awesome.
You know, I can imagine all the ones that you got for the book that you didn't get to
put in.
I can only imagine how many stories.
I'm waiting for four more chapters of just the folks who came, four more volumes rather,
of just the books that come up to me with amazing stories.
It'll be like Britannica.
It's like Labia.
Britannica, Connecticut.
Yeah.
Britannica, Connecticut.
You know, you mentioned that the East Coast being very, very afflicted.
And there's a reason why.
Yes, you're aimed with paranormal experiences.
There's a reason why, guys.
And you think about all the places that have the most wars, the most chaos, the most deaths,
the most tragedies, right?
And it's taken away Indian land and the battles that went on.
And also, it's also a very heavy location of traveling water, of flowing water.
And flowing water, as you know, is a conduit.
So all those things combined, and you think of Pennsylvania, Virginia, all the way through
the New York, through the New England states, and not to take away from the rest of the
country because any place you're going to go, there's going to be that farmhouse.
There's going to be that, you know, you will always hear stories and they're either true
or a drunken night out.
95 watt, would you agree?
95%.
It happens to these people and they don't know how to talk about it.
And so what I think there should be this version in every single state, there should be true
ghost stories of Maine, true ghost stories of Colorado everywhere because I want to read
that.
I want to hear the best of these events.
Oh, listen to that.
I'm the promoter and my partner's got to, as you guys probably know, we're doing the Connecticut's
first witch festival.
Oh, that's gonna be awesome.
Last year they were finally exonerated, you know, and absolved.
And this year we're celebrating in Hartford.
Thank you, Tomas.
Brilliant.
At the historic Pratt Street in Hartford.
And it's going to be a two day festival, no admission, free admission, hundreds, maybe
thousands of people are going to come, 20, 25 vendors, everything witch related guest
speakers.
It's going to be pretty special.
It's the next, you know, event in our order of major events.
Connecticut paracon being in July.
The week after the paracon, we're doing the Connecticut's summer psychic festival at the
Dudley town brewery in Windsor.
Oh man.
Free admission event, then the witch trials event in Hartford, August 10th, August 9th
and 10th or 10th and 11th.
I got my dates all together now.
And then when we're ready to promote, we'll talk about the Salem paracon, which has been
going on now in its third year.
The Salem paranormal and horror convention up in Salem mass.
But we'll focus on Connecticut for now.
I tell you, you are a busy man, my friend, a busy man.
I love it.
I love everything I do.
I don't know if it comes across.
It does.
I would hope.
I would hope because none of its work, it's all such a pleasure to be, cause if I wasn't
producing these cons, I would be going to these cons.
I would go to a witch festival.
I love the idea of this.
You know, I'm going to see the new Tara movie with my kids.
And I saw Abigail, every horror movie that comes out, I got to see.
So I'm still, I still got that horror kid in me, but now it's on that next, the next
plane, that next level where, you know, it's the stuff we love.
So one of our favorite witches is Patty Negri.
Patty Negri was on her show.
She calls herself the white witch and I bought her book and stuff.
And I, I use some of her stuff.
It works, man.
It does amazing stuff.
You know, you just gotta put your heart in your mind and put that belief into it.
It's amazing what, what, what she can accomplish.
You should get her to go to that.
It's a great call.
I, if people, I mean, you know, you think Wiccan and witch, and there's a lot of people
who don't know who, who give assumptions.
And if you study it and you look into it, it's, it's, it's cool.
It's cool.
Yeah.
And it's positive.
You know what also it is too, is it's so informative of history.
And that's what I love the most about all this, especially being a paranormal researcher.
Like I never cared for history when I was in school, but the minute I got into this
work history has just exploded in me.
I love it.
Every part of history, you know what I mean?
And just that aspect alone, like those ghost tour walks that you guys are going to be doing,
just the history you're going to be teaching alone about this location is just worth the
money in itself.
In my opinion.
Thank you.
I mean, when, when Tom and I, when the Shaman and the showman LLC go out, he won't set foot
anywhere we're going unless he's carefully researched everything.
He's the historian and the researcher, you know, I like going in, you know, with the
shades on the shadow.
I'm like that too.
Yeah.
So I always, always want the best of both worlds with the things we do.
And we've been very fortunate.
We're very fortunate.
I wonder if you got to check out some of the guests who we've got at this year's paragon.
It's a, it's a wonderful mix of people who I've had before who people have loved with
a bunch of brand new people who've never done the Connecticut paragon, including Andy Andrews,
who was the original, one of the original ghost hunter guys and literally has just,
you know, disappeared from, you know, he didn't like the route it was going.
You didn't want to, you know, dramatize and all that.
So he's been kind of out of the picture for a long time and he's been nice enough to say,
yeah, he'll do the show and really excited to hear, you know, what he has to say about
this current YouTube state of investigators and the people who are, you know, the new,
I don't want to say the new blood of paranormal, but it should be, should be really special
with him there.
Do you want to shout out some of the other people that will be there?
Yeah, we have a gun in front of me.
Thank you.
We have a gun who's the first lady of the dunes medium.
We've got Kenneth Drake.
This is crazy.
This is his first paragon, but he was Hollywood's haunted psychics done over 50,000 readings.
Let me pull it up.
Hold on.
Let me pull it up for you so I can show everybody while you're saying it.
Hold on.
This is awesome.
So Drake was, was, was ranked number one psychic advisor in the U S and Canada for 18 consecutive
years.
So what's really exciting is these guys, you know, have never done paracons before at all.
Some of them are doing their first paracond first, first ever summer.
Yeah.
First Connecticut show.
Yeah.
As you're doing that, I'll keep rambling though.
The rest, the rest is coming.
I know she's done shows before it's their first show with us and she's a psychic medium
as well.
Uh, Jimmy, our friend, Jimmy, mr. Haunted, the Tino pedmino who's, um, you know, worked
with the Warrens.
He was a videographer.
Them did so much stuff with them.
Um, Lauren and Danny, uh, the radicals.
Oh, there we go.
That is that first row.
Thank you.
Looking good.
And then you did a good job on that shout shout out to Melissa.
Our feet and she's our webmaster and, um, I just bombed her with three other guests.
So, um, when you scroll to the next page and we've got three on there now, uh, there'll
be three more literally within the next week.
So I'm really excited about that.
But Dave, uh, Giuliano is, uh, going to be with us.
It was, um, an ordained independent Catholic priest and has been researching ghosts for
nearly 40 years.
My buddy, everyone's buddy, Adam Bagan, the historian ghost hunter, uh, co-founder and
historically haunted, um, Scott Allen, another psychic medium from the Massachusetts area.
And um, got some demonologists we've just added to the event.
And if you guys know Carl Johnson, he's also coming.
Um, and it's going to be, I think you see where that three are going to be filled very
quickly and we might have to do another row right below it.
Cause, uh, it's just, it's hard for me to say no when we're getting such great guests
who want to be there, right?
Challenge is going to be fitting them in, uh, for half hour slots of talking, uh, for
the, for the two days because, um, I want to fit them all in.
They all, every one of them has amazing stuff to share.
All of this says Dan Sturges.
Thank you.
Sturges is going up, uh, is literally going up as we speak.
He'll be, uh, our next great guest and, um, I'm forgetting who else Tom, Tom can tell
us as he's doing that.
So Enfield also sharing with us.
Oh, yeah, no, he actually, yeah.
He just said that Joe Franks was at the house last night from the Warren legacy foundation.
He said they had a wild time because they held an event last night, I guess, and it
went really well.
So, um, have you ever, have you ever had Joe Franks at all by chance?
Where is he?
He's located in Connecticut, but I believe so, but I just don't know the exact location
where, but I can definitely reach out to him for you because I tell you one year he would
be a great guest for you guys.
He has a lot of knowledge.
Oh, we'd love to have him.
That sounds great.
Yeah.
I, um, what I found is the first years we were reaching out like crazy first year, second
year and now it's, I'm getting, yeah, you're coming to you and I'm saying, I'll fit you
in one way or another.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm looking for that and I'm loving that part of it.
Thank you.
That was the other way father Bob Bailey.
Yeah.
And they're going to come as a tandem and I think they're going to actually be speaking
on stage together.
So we're looking forward to that.
We've already filled those three empty boxes there on the website.
We're on the second row.
We're ready.
The third row.
That is awesome.
I do want to do, I want us to do a shout out to Chris from the other parent, the Warren's
spirit secret paracon.
Because when he heard that we were doing a show, he didn't hesitate.
He said, here are some people who I think you should have.
And that's a perfect example.
You think we would be, you know, competitors.
He was doing that show the other side of the state in October.
I was doing the show.
We're buds, man.
We, you know, we, we try to help each other.
We do a mass emails for each other to vendors and to fans.
And it just makes sense.
I love that.
That is awesome.
Now, as a, now as a paranormal researcher yourself, yes.
What got you into it?
Like what experience was it that grabbed you and was like, I got it.
I got to figure out more.
That's a great question.
Cause I was going along to events and I was, I didn't consider them.
I can say I was the host.
I was a host.
I was making sure that what we would do is we would do nightly events where we'd go eat
first.
We would do an orientation.
We'd show the people the equipment.
I've never seen it before.
And then do the investigation three, four hour event.
And so I saw myself as the promoter of it.
I was the one getting the word out and getting people to come.
And not so much that person who knew when you walked into a certain part of a house,
I didn't feel it get colder.
I wasn't the conduit.
I wasn't the empath.
I was not a medium.
And I will never say that I am, but guys, what I would do is I would take tons of pictures
and I got great results that would blow my mind.
When everything was said and done, I was back in the car or back at home and I'm skimming
through and I'm what?
How did that one picture with all those actually have?
And the one that really jumps out on me, I know it's in my book somewhere, is when we
did the Ansonia Opera House.
Oh, I wanted to ask you how was that?
I never got a chance.
Guys, I wish I could have brought you with me.
Channel 8 was there.
I mean, WTNH News covered it.
I remember, yeah.
I remember.
We were going through.
And I was taking pictures of an upper deck area, which was probably the mezzanine of
the Opera House.
I love to talk about Opera Houses because I'm a real big theater guy.
And an Opera House rarely had opera.
What did it have?
It had Houdini.
Yeah.
It had big symphonies.
It was a convention center before there were convention centers and community.
Everything would go on.
People would love these places and they would go there a few times a week for what?
A nickel to get in, whatever.
And how did Houdini play the Ansonia Opera House?
How did they get him to play Sterling and Derby?
Well, what would happen is he would get on a train.
And if City had a grand hotel and an Opera House, that's where he would do his rooting.
It wasn't like Megadeth or Metallica doing concert tours that are planned a year in advance
city to city.
These guys jump on a train with their suitcase and their props, whether it was Houdini or
Al Jolson or priest Sinatra guys, and they would go.
And so that's how all these amazing people get.
Now, a place like that, how many people attended?
Thousands, millions who had amazing life experiences there.
Oh yeah.
And when you're about not crossing over, where do people not cross over from?
The places they love, the places that they either don't know that they have to leave
or the places they don't want to leave.
And you think of churches and schools and homes, but also these opera houses and theaters.
And that's why they're haunted because they didn't cross over.
So anyway, I took a ton of pictures of this area because it had this white door and the
sun was shining through it though.
And in one picture, I don't know if we can see this guys, but in just one, one.
Let me make it big.
Hold on one sec.
Let me make it big.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Make me big.
Then one shot.
Oh, there's a person standing there.
You see?
Look at that.
It's a shadow figure.
Wow.
And I didn't discover that till I looked at the roll.
But the guy I was with said, well, take some pictures here also.
I'm feeling something in this area.
Then I took a slew of pictures and it doesn't come out as good in the book as it does on
my phone, but I'm going to try to show.
No, it's not going to look good.
It's two Nosferatu looking specters, literally about 10 feet off the ground, floating across
and you see their faces and their arms and it's unmistakable.
So when did I have my revelation, AJ?
Right there.
When on my phone, when I would see the shots I was taking and I'm like, Oh my gosh.
When we went to Dudley town one time and we've been there a few times till we got the cease
and desist.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We were in a group and there was this one guy and you know, he was like, I'm checking
your phone, what is this over?
And like, why is this guy here?
He was there for his girlfriend and you know, that's fair, right?
He was being nice enough and all of a sudden in the middle of this whole, you know, Dudley
town area where you don't hear crickets anymore and you don't see birds and it's, you know,
silent all of a sudden, everyone's pointing to this guy.
Why were you pointing to me?
Because I'm the only one who doesn't believe in this stuff.
No, dude.
I'm pointing to you because your hair is being pulled straight up in the air for no reason.
We're all taking pictures and we had to show them the pictures to believe it.
So let me, let me show you a cool picture I got.
I did a home investigation in Tennessee and I was in the room where the activity was and
on the back wall, the only thing back there was the power panel and I took a picture at
the mirror and I use Polaroid.
Yeah.
All right.
If you look close, you can see the lady standing there.
Oh my God.
Right next to the mesh.
Yeah.
And I, I replicated that.
I tried to replicate it nine times.
I used $75 worth of film trying to replicate it and I couldn't do it.
No, you know, it ended up being.
Your mom.
It was, you know what's so crazy though.
It makes me so wild that people will knock down apps and all this type of stuff, but
yet you can go out and buy a Polaroid camera and get the best evidence of your life with
it.
And you mean to tell me that these, these spirits or entities can't mess with a phone.
You know what I'm saying?
It drives me nuts sometimes, but I won't go into that one, but you know, it's just, it's
crazy though.
It's so crazy that the most easiest equipment that you can find is really all you need.
Just a Polaroid camera or phone camera and maybe a digital recorder.
If you don't have one on your phone.
Yeah.
Really?
I mean, that's really all you need and you can capture some amazing things with it.
It's just so crazy.
And when you capture an EVP, as you probably know, Charles, like where is that coming from?
You know what I'm saying?
Like how do you disbunk that?
How do you debunk that when you have like a class A EVP?
Like you know what I'm saying?
Like how do you like, how does scientists say to you?
Like someone who's talking, you know, who was there, even if it's just yourself, you know,
I can't make a woman's voice as much as I would want to try.
You know, I couldn't do that.
No way.
I'm sure you would.
It's more like this.
Hold on.
Right.
Ready?
Hi there.
Is that the dark one?
Or the light one?
Or something.
But yeah.
So what I was saying was, you know, it's just so crazy.
Like having like that capture that you captured on that balcony is absolutely incredible.
Yeah, that's crazy.
That is sick.
That is so awesome.
I mean, you must have been like, I had to put it on the cover.
Yeah.
The skulls aren't.
They're from an ossuary in Europe.
Oh, they gave a good look.
Because when we're doing, we were talking about, we touched upon my tours for how many
years I was doing these Dracula tours to Transylvania, selling out, people are loving it.
And they go, hey, Charles, this was great.
Can't we go somewhere else?
Well, all right, let's go to England.
We'll do Dracula part two and go to the Abbey there.
And we went to Whitby, which is the, you know, goth capital of the world.
And we literally put together a one week ghost tour, horror tour, Dracula tour, whatever
you want to call it to England.
Yeah.
Well, fun, so successful trips over.
Where are we going to next?
So I had this like a list of 40 or so travelers ready for this.
Prague, East Germany, Czech Republic, Cuba, Israel, Hungary, all these places we did ghost
tours to, and we would take a week that we're, you know, during the year and did all these
places.
And we always got amazing results.
And what was great is I was going with like-minded people.
So I was getting a free trip out of it as the host.
I love it.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
And they were going to places that they probably would never have gone to in their lives.
Otherwise in Eastern Europe, we went to Frankenstein's castle.
I mean, my gosh, you know, you don't get to do that.
Just me.
Where does the wife want to go?
Oh, Aruba.
Oh, Disney kids want to go to Disney.
Okay.
Where do I want to go?
I want to go to Frankenstein's castle.
Hello, Transylvania.
Castle.
I want to go up the Bargo Pass, the Carpathian Mountains.
I want to live and breathe what Bram Stoker wrote about in that novel and follow the footsteps
of Jonathan Harker.
And guys been doing that now 25 years.
I was about to ask, tell us more about these tours, man, because it must be a beautiful
place number one and number two, just the history alone.
Well, we go to what we balance the history of Vlad, the impaler, the real deal, right?
Go to his castle with the legend and the myth and the fun of our boy here, Dracula.
And we mesh them together because that's what I would want in a tour.
And it was never such a thing.
If you went to Romania, for whatever reason, you'd go to Bucharest, which is the capital,
and maybe someone would take you on a Dracula tour for three hours where you would go to
Bran Castle.
Now, Bran Castle, mind you, it's this magnificent, it's the type of thing you would see in a
Dracula movie.
And it's great, but it really didn't have much of a Dracula connection except Vlad was
in prison there maybe for a week.
We went there, but we also went to the ruins of Vlad's actual castle.
We went to the place where Vlad was born, where he was buried, where they dug it up
years later and only found animal bones and a missing head.
Just amazing stuff right here.
Wow.
You're getting me excited, dude.
I gotta start saving up.
You won't believe we go to Brasov, which has the black church called that way because it
was burned on the outside and still has the black circle.
It was burned and never restored.
And that's in the courtyard where all the stakes were that Vlad would impale the farm
and come in to try to invade.
So we do all that.
We go to all those places and it's www.DracTours.com.
D-O-R-E-C-U-U-R-S.
And we go once a year and people just have the greatest time.
This year, guys, you get a kick out of this.
We have a couple who are getting married on the trip.
Oh, that's awesome.
So you know, that'll be the best photos on Instagram in history.
Absolutely.
Now, I had a question for you.
Actually, two questions for you.
Number one, how does somebody get involved with getting on these DRAC Tours to get to
go to one of these tours with you guys?
Do you guys leave from the USA?
Tell us a little bit about that and then I'll ask you the next question.
Yeah, so it's a one-week tour and we take care of literally everything except souvenirs
and dinners.
So if you don't eat and you don't buy goodies, it's all covered.
We fly them from JFK so people could be coming from Colorado, they can come from LA, Chicago,
anywhere.
We meet as a group in New York, fly out together right to Bucharest, spend a week long traveling
on a luxury bus.
We stay at a combination of higher end, nice four-star hotels and creepy, scary, gothy
type hotels that we do a combination of it.
And the last night that we're there for our farewell dinner, farewell party is a dress
up.
Everyone, you can't attend unless you're wearing makeup, unless you're wearing a costume.
Whenever it's held, that's our Halloween masquerade ball on the last night.
And that's whether we did the Ghost Tour sing where if we do it, that's pretty much been
our signature move, ending the event with a masquerade ball.
And if you ever go to draktours.com and you click on past tour reports, you will literally
see what we do in order, how we do it, all the places we go to.
And you'll see the people dressed up from year to year.
And it's like, what?
These guys would have won a contest anywhere they went.
And they spend a year planning what they're going to wear.
What time of the year do you do this?
What time of the year?
We're doing two a year.
We were doing the Halloween one, which obviously makes sense.
And if you're not in the business, that's when you go.
You want to go then.
And then we were doing a summer one.
Why?
For all the haunters and all the people whose lives are so packed during Halloween.
And the other reason the summer thing was for students and for teachers.
But we started that since COVID, we did away with the summer one.
And it's just the October one now.
It's from 28th to November 4th.
Oh, wow.
All right.
That's awesome, man.
I wanted to ask you one question.
One last question was about Paracon.
And that was, have you ever had anybody film for you guys a free video of the Paracon,
of the whole event?
Have you guys ever had anyone do that?
Sounds like there's an offer that's going to follow this.
That's what I'm waiting for.
There is.
Because there is.
I love just filming in general, and I would love to just free film for you guys that want
like a video for you guys of Paracon.
I think that'd be just so much fun.
So I got to tell you, every year that's been done, and I've yet to see the footage.
So this is, this is people come and it's like, yeah, sure.
Do it.
Just let me see when you're done.
First year was what?
Four years ago.
Still waiting to see the raw footage.
Oh my God.
No, see, I'm talking about bringing a lavalier, Mike, guests, like get the people that are
coming in and like say, like, what do you think of the Paracon and like interview them
and you know, get them going and then also do the vendor shots and do cinematic shots.
Like I love that.
If you can't tell, you're passionate about it.
I'm passionate about it, man.
I love it.
That's what I love.
It's a done deal.
We got it.
All right.
We'll talk more on it for sure.
For sure.
All right.
Awesome.
Mike, thank you so much for you, your partner, for everybody who is involved in doing this
Paracon and getting it started, the draft tours, everything that you're doing, Charles,
thank you so much from my heart and everyone in this field to thank you for what you're
doing.
Cause honestly, it's amazing.
Thank you.
I appreciate being on and being able to share all the fun stuff and we're going to, we're
going to share this interview like crazy and hopefully get a lot of listeners and a lot
of people attending the event.
Definitely.
Well, you got to come back with Thomas.
I want to meet Thomas too.
So how about this?
We'll schedule something before the Paracon if you guys are free and we'll get you guys
on and then we'll promote it for the Paracon.
Looking forward to it guys.
Thank you so much.
Hey, Charles, thank you, man.
God bless you, brother.
Thank you again.
Love and light, my brother.
Yes.
All right.
Talk to you soon.
Wow, man.
I tell you, that was such a great, great interview, man.
What did you think?
I love that guy.
He's energetic, man.
I love that guy.
Charles pumps me up because he is passionate about this field.
He's passionate about his work and that's what I love about a man.
He does not bullshit around.
He's passionate about what he loves to do and he does it.
And that's something that, you know, I love seeing it.
You know, it's sad that like we talked earlier about how, yes, you're going to have the negative
people in the field and whatnot, but that's in any field, whatever.
But it's just so good to see that there is people like Charles that is bringing these
events, bringing these conventions towards paranormal enthusiasts, other people that
maybe just are having experiences.
It's just like investigating, man.
It's all about intentions.
If you go in with the intention of making people happy, getting people to understand,
you know, the paranormal, you're going to have a great time.
You're going to have a wonderful time.
If you're in it just for the money or just for the sales of the merge, you're not going
to accomplish what you want to, you know?
Exactly.
You're absolutely right.
And you know what, man, I'm so looking forward to have Thomas on too next time, man.
You know, I wish he was here.
Look, come on.
I wish I knew that his time was a little bit different.
I would have totally pushed us a little bit back for her to have him on.
But you know what?
We set something up so that we can promote the Paracon coming up this July.
As you see on the bottom, everyone, the Baldwin Center in Stratford, Connecticut, the Connecticut
Paracon, July 20th through the 21st, 2024.
Come down, check it out.
You're going to love it.
There's some amazing guest speakers.
Just go to paracon.org.
You'll check it out.
You'll see all the guest speakers as we showed earlier or just look back on this and you'll
be able to find out some of the guest speakers.
But definitely follow the page for more guest speakers to come as Charles was talking about
and for more stuff to come.
Thomas, we appreciate you and Charles.
Thank you so much.
And I can't wait to have you on my friend and for everyone listening, please make sure
to head over to all podcasts, listening platforms to listen to us on the go.
We are talking with the source and John, where can they find your stuff that my friend?
Yeah, man.
So this Tuesday at 12 PM Mountain Time or 2 PM Eastern, I'll be doing the live spirit
box session, uh, trying to talk to the Jameson family.
I'm going to bring that cold case back because if you miss my show on Friday, I talked to
psychic medium, Shannon boom guard, and she was, she actually works with the FBI in solving
cases and this was one of those cases.
So we discussed it all.
I suggest you guys go back and check it out.
And yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to try to communicate with the Jameson family again
on Tuesday.
So awesome, man.
Awesome.
And then what on Friday is check out legit, correct?
Yeah, legit.
Uh, the darkness descends with JK 47.
Um, usually, uh, you know, we'll look at a live investigations, look at some clips, uh,
or if I have a guest like, like Shannon was on last week, uh, it took up the whole hour.
It just flew by, just flew by, man.
Well, those are always the best, man.
You know, when you have someone great that's on like, especially today, we had Charles
on he's passionate.
He's a great talker like us.
So at the time flew by, you know, and that's what you look for as a host.
But thank you guys so much for tuning in.
We appreciate every single one of you head over to talking with the source on Facebook,
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Um, until next time, my name is AJ Capasso, host and founder of talking with the source.
I'm here with my best friend on this side, sorry.
And host and founder Jonathan keywords and also our other guests who's in the back right
now, who's actually, um, you know, in the comments, Chris, sir, Chris, we hope you get
better.
We hope you feel better.
We will see you next week.
Love you too, my friend.
And until next time, thank you guys so much for checking out this show.
We will see you soon.
Later.
Peace out.