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Welcome to Talking with the Source where we bring on well known and local researchers

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from around the world to share their experiences and evidence.

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Who knows that the moon missions were faked?

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As soon as I said I'll meet you and she said oh darn it I gotta check the door make sure

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the door is locked because I don't want to leave John's house unlocked.

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So she goes back to check the door.

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I go out to my vehicle and I hear this god awful scream.

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Well there are 63 races of grays.

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So most people only think there's one race and when you say grays it's a misinformation.

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There are 63 races.

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Out of those one race is a negative extraterrestrial.

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And what I do is I group them in the negative and the positive.

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The positive wish to see humanity ascend.

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What is your name?

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My name is Anthony.

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Are you ready to unravel the mysteries of this podcast?

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Join us only on Talking with the Source.

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Live every Sunday at 3pm EST and on all podcast listening platforms.

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What's going on everybody?

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My name is AJ Capasso, host and founder of Talking with the Source and I'm here with

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the other founder and host, my best friend, Jonathan Kieworth of JK47 Paranormal Investigations.

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John, what is going on my brother?

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Dude, what's up man?

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Just had a crazy night.

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We went and investigated Holy Cross Abbey for the last time.

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They're going to be shutting it down in June.

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So it's basically going to rot away is what we heard.

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So it's kind of sad.

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I love investigating that place and I just want to say thank you to Dennis Batchelor

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and Sean Crochet for allowing me to come and investigate.

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Gretchen's in the house, what's up Gretchen?

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Hi.

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And yeah dude, it's kind of sad but you know life goes on.

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You just got to keep going forward living the now man.

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Absolutely, absolutely man.

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And I'm so sad to hear about the Abbey but another thing happened, our other host Chris,

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he actually as he was coming out of what area?

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Do you want to explain what happened to him when he got attacked?

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So Chris is, we've investigated that place together like four or five times and we were

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down in the basement and they were doing a session in this room where there's a crawl

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space and Sean, he said that's where the the bad man hangs out is in that crawl space.

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So I went upstairs because my knee started hurting and was having trouble walking and

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stuff and not even like 15 minutes later they came up and then all of a sudden he went pale

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like white, like his face was white as paper and he couldn't walk, couldn't do 10 steps.

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So what Sean was saying is that that thing attached to him, they went to, he went to

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the hospital everything we had to call the paramedics and they came up with the stretcher

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and stuff and I was helping them.

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Garrett Wotley, he was a fireman from Massachusetts there on the investigation and he helped tell

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911 what was going on.

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So yeah, so thank you Wotley and I appreciate your help with that.

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You know, Chris is a good friend, he's a good guy, he didn't deserve that but once he got

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to the hospital they basically said he had a panic attack.

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Yeah, which is really weird and kind of coincidental with some kind of a spiritual attack because

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I've had them say that to me when I've had spiritual attacks like, oh it's just a panic

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attack but Gretchen, he is doing well, he contacted us.

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He actually was going to be staying live and you know he got out of the hospital immediately

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came on to be live on the show.

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We were like no, go home, go rest, you need to take today off but he like really wanted

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to come on.

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So we had to tell him no but anyway, long story short though, he's doing alright.

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Thank you guys so much for asking, we really appreciate it.

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Thank you Gretchen.

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But we have an amazing guest today and I want to bring him forward.

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He is an amazing person.

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I'm going to let him explain all the stuff that he's involved in because between Connecticut

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Paracon, between Drak Tours, between the book, I mean just there's so much stuff that Charles

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Rosinay does, it's absolutely amazing so let me bring him forward, a great friend of ours,

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Charles Rosinay, let me bring him forward.

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Great to finally be on the show guys, thank you.

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Great to have you my friend, great to have you.

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So please, I didn't want to mess up this intro, I want to let you tell everybody a little

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bit about yourself my friend.

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Oh my gosh, well as you can see by the background which I haven't pointed out before, I'm a

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monster kid, you know, grew up loving the Universal Monsters and my big passions growing

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up was horror movies and the Beatles, rock and roll and all that.

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And I was able to sort of like make them both my life in that I do as you mentioned, Dracula

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Tours to Transylvania, 25 years strong and the Beatles Tours to Liverpool for Beatle

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fans.

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So both of my passions and my loves really came together well in a lot of the stuff I

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do.

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But the past 10 years the horror has veered towards the paranormal and the supernatural

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and having been someone who produced conventions for so many years, it was a natural segue

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into producing the paranormal conventions, even before like the Warrens who put on that

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great show in the Mohegan Sun and all that for these past few years and I think are moving

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it out to Gettysburg this year.

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Kind of got a jump on that a few years back right after COVID and did Connecticut's first

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paranormal convention over at the Ansonia Armory and you know, expected you know, a

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few hundred people and had you know, whatever, 2000.

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Oh it was crazy.

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I mean I was there that first year at the Armory.

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I mean I know last year you also had there right as well.

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You had it for three years.

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Three years?

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Okay because that was the first year I went.

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I didn't get to go the last two.

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So yeah the first year was like oh my it was beyond belief.

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It was crazy.

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So third year we moved it from the summer to May because all the vendors were saying

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gets hot in this Armory, there's no air conditioning and we you know, so we planned it like eight

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months in advance never realizing it was Mother's Day weekend.

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So no one wants to set up in the sun.

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We made it one show.

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So we'll take a step back.

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We'll re-analyze things and this year having it in July like we always where we want it

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where it's always been very successful but moved to a different location that has air

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conditioning.

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So this year July 20th to the 21st Paracon 4, Connecticut's original paranormal convention

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is moving to the Baldwin Center in Stratford which is a great location.

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Clean mind next to the library, a ridiculous amount of parking, just the right setup.

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It can fit all the vendors we want, special guests and then there's a separate room for

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talking.

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We're adding a few new dimensions to the event.

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We're going to have a film festival, a screening room where we can show you ghosts, you know

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the great shows that everyone loves and also some movies.

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And then while the event is going on we're going to do a ghost walk because there's a

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very special location nearby that we're going to take people to.

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So every hour on the hour people who want to break away will be able to actually do

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an actual walk paranormal walk and investigation.

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So I'm really excited about this year and tickets are going well.

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Vendors are packing it up and the guests are really excited.

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Go ahead, I'm sorry.

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No, no, no, I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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That is so awesome.

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I get excited too, man.

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I'm excited myself.

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I mean I'm a Connecticut resident so I get super excited for this.

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But you said July 20th or what did you say it was July 20th?

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July 20th through the 21st.

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Okay, 20 through the 21st.

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I just want to put it on the screen for everyone.

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Oh please.

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At the Baldwin Center, right in Stratford, Connecticut.

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Stratford, Connecticut.

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That place is close to my heart anyway because as you guys probably know I was the founder

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and owner and ran a haunted attraction called Fright Haven for those many years sold it

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around COVID but Stratford is my location.

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So I was there every night during Halloween season welcoming people and scaring the pants

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off them.

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Wow.

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I think it's great, man.

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You're doing these ghost walks every hour on the hour so you make sure everybody gets

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the experience, you know, that fabulous location, you know, and the fact that you're doing that,

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you know, they can come back when after the paracon if they want to investigate more,

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you know, and that's awesome, man.

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That whole area has got a lot of very, very cool haunted sites but one in particular,

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I want to give it away completely, but we've done a paranormal investigation of it before

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and made a night of it and people just wow, this was an amazing location.

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So yeah, that's why one of the reasons we picked this place but as silly as it is, air

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conditioning was so crucial because I love that and Sonya Armory and hopefully we'll

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go back there someday if they ever bring back, if they ever add AC to the place.

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But we did, we were about a four or five month search.

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It was myself and Tom Gormley who's my new partner and the shaman and the showman.

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We'll get him on your show.

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He's actually, he's here.

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Hold on, hold on.

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Here he is.

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He's there.

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The better half, he says.

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Watch out.

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Oh.

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Couldn't you have timed that better?

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Could we have timed that better?

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Yeah, right.

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Yeah, he was, him and I were literally looking at so many places throughout the state and

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considering this one and weighing this one and we think everyone's going to really, really

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love this location in Strafford.

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That is awesome.

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I'm pumped.

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Places on the East coast there.

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I mean, that's where all our history, you know, as a country, it was all developed there

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on the East coast.

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So there's got to be so many locations that you can do.

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I would love to have that option.

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You know, I'm out in Colorado.

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I got Stanley in the Abbey.

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But you know, they are ways good options, you know, like we have some great stuff up

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here, but then we also do love other Colorado stuff.

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You know, right trials, you know, we get it.

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And I heard about the amazing, you know, results you just had at the Abbey and to hear, you

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know, someone who had what they're going to call obviously a panic attack or whatever,

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you know, that's, that's an easy way out to explain something that's not explainable.

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You know, you know, what's crazy, man, when the paramedics came up, they're like, what

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are you guys doing in here?

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We're like, we're investigating and they're like, what paranormal stuff?

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And they're like, Oh, okay.

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And you could, I could feel their fear, you know, like I'm an impact.

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They're like, I don't want to be in here.

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It was crazy.

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That's always great.

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Always great.

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Um, I wanted to actually ask you, what is, um, like some requirements to be a vendor

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at the paracon?

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You know, we're pretty flexible.

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You know, if someone's selling merch, it's cool.

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If they're a reader or a psychic and they want to set up and read on the spot, whether

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it's tarot cards, whether it's, um, leaves, whether it's crystals, palms, we're open to

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that.

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So we get a nice mix of the people who are selling horror stuff, the people who are selling

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paranormal equipment, Ouija boards, you know, pretty much across the board.

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We got a little carried away second or third try.

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I forgot we had like 80 vendors and it was really, really ridiculously packed.

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So we're going to go back to like that 50 is a very, where, you know, people, you know,

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nowadays I don't know if people have enough cash to go around to 80 vendors and really

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support them all.

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You know, I want them all to do well.

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You know, I'm on the other side of it a lot too.

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I, last weekend I was at the chiller convention in New Jersey and I got a lot of shows where

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I'm a guest author and I, you know, signed copies of my book.

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And I know if I'm in a room with another a hundred or if I'm in a room with 50, there's

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a big difference because there's, and when you get guests and certain guests, you know,

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sign and they bring their books or their time and photos or they have DVDs to sell.

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You know, you got to make a choice.

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We come with a hundred bucks in your pocket.

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You know, that's going to go pretty quickly.

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You have five tables and it's like, Oh man, where's the ATM?

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There's so much more stuff I want to get here.

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And I know it from both sides.

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So yeah, we're going to, we're going to, um, all the VIPs and all the very special guests

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will have their own dedicated room where fans can go see them, meet them.

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You know, people want pictures.

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They want pictures with the guests.

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They want to tell, they want to tell their experiences to, for lack of a better word,

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not experts, but people who are living it every single day.

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And someone who walks off the street from a Bridgeport or Milford or wherever they're

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coming from to go to the show and they've had an experience.

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They're there for that reason.

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You know, they can't pick up a phone and just, you know, dial 911.

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Hi, can you connect me to a paranormal investigator?

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There's no yellow pages for that.

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These conventions actually serve a really good purpose.

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People walk in those doors and you see on their faces that, yep.

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Like I'm not crazy.

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Right.

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I mean, it's an amazing feeling.

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AJ, you hit it right.

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It's a, it's a shared kindred experience.

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And here from many years, I was the, the, in the pair in the shaman and the showman.

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Yeah, I'm the showman.

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I'm the schmoozer, the guy who's plays the skeptic plays the non-believer, but living

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this and breathing it and being part of it and getting smacked in the face over and over

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with, you know, experiences.

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I can't play that role anymore.

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I have to have to say I was that, but now I'm that.

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And even in my book, you know, my, my, my, my ghost stories book, three of the chapters

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are mine because I had, you know, my own experiences that I wanted to share.

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And yeah, people walk in no doubt in there.

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Like this is it.

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This is where I need it to be.

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This is where I can tell about what's happened to me and, and, and find out from other people

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that I'm not crazy.

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Yeah, no, exactly.

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And I think that that's why these conventions are so important because, and I, and I'm so

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happy that I'm happy in a way and I'm not happy in a way about how big the paranormal

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has got.

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I'm not happy in a way at the fact of where YouTube has brought it now because of the

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people who are faking it and turning the field into a joke, which I don't like, but I'm so

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happy that it's blown up to where these conventions are happening, where someone good like yourself

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is doing this kind of stuff because it's making people who are having these experiences that

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they don't know where to go to, that they can go somewhere and realize I'm not crazy.

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Like there's something really going on.

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There's something more than, than there is to this world.

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And you know, it's so great to have all these vendors that can teach them things like from

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the tarot readings to crystals.

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I mean, you name it, all the stuff that I saw when I was there, it's just absolutely

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amazing.

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The reason why I asked you about requirements for guests and stuff like that is because

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we were actually going to contact you about seeing about for the next year's one for having

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global ghost hunt come down because we've been having a lot of success with bringing

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global ghost hunt and help saving a lot of these locations that are around.

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And another reason why too is I don't know if you know them, but my friends from the

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Anfield demon house have been asking me about the paracon and wanting me to ask you, you

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know, if they were ever welcome to ever like put in their name.

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And I wanted to ask you what you thought, you know, what your opinion was.

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So I think Tom's in touch with them already about possibly coming up and being in.

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I know there's some controversy going on with that particular location and there's some

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people who are saying, well, I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I get what you're saying.

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I heard all the controversy stuff in this crazy business.

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There's a lot of silliness.

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My whole you'll understand what I'm saying when I, when I explained to you, when I started

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fright Haven and we're talking about, you know, 15 years ago when it was originally

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West Haven, all the haunted attractions were enemies and they fought bitterly.

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And then you go online and even at the beginning of Facebook, you would see, don't go to that

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place.

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They don't scare you there.

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And I'm like, why are they doing this?

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And it was one of my missions and I succeeded was to bring all the haunted attractions to

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the point where you go to one on a weekend, you have a great time.

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The next weekend, the next October weekend, you're going to want to go to another one.

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You're going to want to feed off each other.

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It's logical.

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Yeah.

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Every paranormal group should be recommending the next paranormal group.

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Every location that has a successful event, a group shouldn't say, well, that was it.

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We're exclusive.

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No one else.

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It should be open and it drives me crazy.

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The what goes on community, para community, even that.

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And the irony of it is I had a partner and we're no longer together.

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And I know I know I couldn't believe it.

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I couldn't believe it either.

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I still don't know why.

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And it's sad because here are the one who preaches the para unity and who tries and

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strives so hard to make sure everyone gets along and his friends.

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You know, sometimes it just doesn't work out that way.

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You know, that's just what happens in this field, though.

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You know, it's sad that as paranormal researchers, we decide that we are a lot a lot of people

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are more about the fame aspect becoming the next Zach Bagans with their with their evidence

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than they are worried about what the whole point of why they got into this field in the

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first place.

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And it's just sad to see how the money or the money nowadays with how YouTube pays people

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now and all that stuff.

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I mean, don't get me wrong.

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I'm not against people making money and doing their doing what they do because I have friends

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that are mediums and make a lot of money and I'm happy for them.

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But you know, it's like the moral behind what you're doing.

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If we all work together, we would accomplish so much, you know, and it's just like and

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there's room for everybody.

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It's not, you know, it is an exclusive club.

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So tell me, tell us a little bit about your book, my friend, and tell us where we can

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get our hands on it and where whereabouts it is, please.

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Happen to have one in my hands, right?

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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It's two ghost stories of Connecticut.

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You know, it came out just in time, I think, for the second paracon.

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And what was so cool about it is about 30 chapters, probably 25 of the chapters, the

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people who wrote the chapters for me and I'm going I'm jumping ahead because I want to

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tell you how it came about.

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We're at the con.

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We're at the paracon.

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So what was amazing is people were getting the book signed by me and then it was like

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a scavenger hunt.

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I went to vendor to vendor to vendor to vendor getting others to sign the book, which never

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happened.

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So that's awesome.

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The criteria for me to put that together, this book, because there were other books

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that told you some of the haunted places in Connecticut or where they were or what their

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history was.

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I wanted to put together a book where we learned what happened to people at these places.

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And I reached out to people who I thought were very respected individuals in our paranormal

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community.

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And I said, listen, I don't want you to bullshit me.

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I don't want you to tell me a smooth story.

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I want you to tell me the truest, most unbelievable, unexplained occurrence that happened to you.

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The criteria is that it was true and that it happened with connection to Connecticut.

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And you know, literally within half a year, I had the most amazing stories and put it

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together in this book, which is available from Amazon, of course, you can get it on

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Amazon at all the conventions we do and through www.paranormalconnecticut.com is the website

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for the book.

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But the Shaman and the Shoman, Tom and I do a lot of libraries.

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We do a lot of library appearances where I tell my history, how I got involved in going

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from a horror guide to the paranormal world.

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He talks about his 40 year history of being an investigator and being on cases and all

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that plus his criminology and of things, which brings it all together.

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And then, you know, we sign and answer questions.

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And just the same way you mentioned people go to a paracon for that reason that they

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need to connect with.

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The first thing I ask at one of these library appearances, how many of you believe in ghosts

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and literally every hand goes up?

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How many of you have had a paranormal experience or an unexplained supern- the rest of the

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hands go, it's unbelievable.

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And then I asked them to talk, you know, give out, they know what I'll talk.

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But when it's over, when it's done, it's a beeline and I'm hoping, all right, they're

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coming to get the book signed.

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No, I got to tell you about my house.

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That's the first, it's always that first.

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I got to tell you about my house.

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Where do you live?

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And what happens?

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It's always a unique story.

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That is awesome.

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You know, I can imagine all the ones that you got for the book that you didn't get to

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put in.

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I can only imagine how many stories.

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I'm waiting for four more chapters of just the folks who came, four more volumes rather,

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of just the books that come up to me with amazing stories.

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It'll be like Britannica.

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It's like Labia.

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Britannica, Connecticut.

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Yeah.

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Britannica, Connecticut.

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You know, you mentioned that the East Coast being very, very afflicted.

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And there's a reason why.

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Yes, you're aimed with paranormal experiences.

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There's a reason why, guys.

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And you think about all the places that have the most wars, the most chaos, the most deaths,

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the most tragedies, right?

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And it's taken away Indian land and the battles that went on.

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And also, it's also a very heavy location of traveling water, of flowing water.

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And flowing water, as you know, is a conduit.

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So all those things combined, and you think of Pennsylvania, Virginia, all the way through

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the New York, through the New England states, and not to take away from the rest of the

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country because any place you're going to go, there's going to be that farmhouse.

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There's going to be that, you know, you will always hear stories and they're either true

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or a drunken night out.

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95 watt, would you agree?

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95%.

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It happens to these people and they don't know how to talk about it.

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And so what I think there should be this version in every single state, there should be true

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ghost stories of Maine, true ghost stories of Colorado everywhere because I want to read

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that.

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I want to hear the best of these events.

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Oh, listen to that.

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I'm the promoter and my partner's got to, as you guys probably know, we're doing the Connecticut's

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first witch festival.

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Oh, that's gonna be awesome.

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Last year they were finally exonerated, you know, and absolved.

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And this year we're celebrating in Hartford.

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Thank you, Tomas.

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Brilliant.

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At the historic Pratt Street in Hartford.

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And it's going to be a two day festival, no admission, free admission, hundreds, maybe

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thousands of people are going to come, 20, 25 vendors, everything witch related guest

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speakers.

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It's going to be pretty special.

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It's the next, you know, event in our order of major events.

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Connecticut paracon being in July.

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The week after the paracon, we're doing the Connecticut's summer psychic festival at the

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Dudley town brewery in Windsor.

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Oh man.

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Free admission event, then the witch trials event in Hartford, August 10th, August 9th

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and 10th or 10th and 11th.

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I got my dates all together now.

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And then when we're ready to promote, we'll talk about the Salem paracon, which has been

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going on now in its third year.

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The Salem paranormal and horror convention up in Salem mass.

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But we'll focus on Connecticut for now.

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I tell you, you are a busy man, my friend, a busy man.

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I love it.

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I love everything I do.

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I don't know if it comes across.

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It does.

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I would hope.

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I would hope because none of its work, it's all such a pleasure to be, cause if I wasn't

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producing these cons, I would be going to these cons.

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I would go to a witch festival.

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I love the idea of this.

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You know, I'm going to see the new Tara movie with my kids.

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And I saw Abigail, every horror movie that comes out, I got to see.

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So I'm still, I still got that horror kid in me, but now it's on that next, the next

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plane, that next level where, you know, it's the stuff we love.

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So one of our favorite witches is Patty Negri.

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Patty Negri was on her show.

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She calls herself the white witch and I bought her book and stuff.

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And I, I use some of her stuff.

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It works, man.

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It does amazing stuff.

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You know, you just gotta put your heart in your mind and put that belief into it.

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It's amazing what, what, what she can accomplish.

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You should get her to go to that.

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It's a great call.

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I, if people, I mean, you know, you think Wiccan and witch, and there's a lot of people

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who don't know who, who give assumptions.

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And if you study it and you look into it, it's, it's, it's cool.

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It's cool.

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Yeah.

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And it's positive.

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You know what also it is too, is it's so informative of history.

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And that's what I love the most about all this, especially being a paranormal researcher.

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Like I never cared for history when I was in school, but the minute I got into this

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work history has just exploded in me.

471
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,800
I love it.

472
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Every part of history, you know what I mean?

473
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,920
And just that aspect alone, like those ghost tour walks that you guys are going to be doing,

474
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,860
just the history you're going to be teaching alone about this location is just worth the

475
00:28:48,860 --> 00:28:49,860
money in itself.

476
00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:50,860
In my opinion.

477
00:28:50,860 --> 00:28:51,860
Thank you.

478
00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:59,360
I mean, when, when Tom and I, when the Shaman and the showman LLC go out, he won't set foot

479
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,200
anywhere we're going unless he's carefully researched everything.

480
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,360
He's the historian and the researcher, you know, I like going in, you know, with the

481
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,360
shades on the shadow.

482
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,360
I'm like that too.

483
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,360
I'm like that too.

484
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,360
Yeah.

485
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:18,760
So I always, always want the best of both worlds with the things we do.

486
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,440
And we've been very fortunate.

487
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,440
We're very fortunate.

488
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,240
I wonder if you got to check out some of the guests who we've got at this year's paragon.

489
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:32,480
It's a, it's a wonderful mix of people who I've had before who people have loved with

490
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,560
a bunch of brand new people who've never done the Connecticut paragon, including Andy Andrews,

491
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,200
who was the original, one of the original ghost hunter guys and literally has just,

492
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,480
you know, disappeared from, you know, he didn't like the route it was going.

493
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,200
You didn't want to, you know, dramatize and all that.

494
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,040
So he's been kind of out of the picture for a long time and he's been nice enough to say,

495
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,360
yeah, he'll do the show and really excited to hear, you know, what he has to say about

496
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:07,040
this current YouTube state of investigators and the people who are, you know, the new,

497
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,480
I don't want to say the new blood of paranormal, but it should be, should be really special

498
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,480
with him there.

499
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,800
Do you want to shout out some of the other people that will be there?

500
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Yeah, we have a gun in front of me.

501
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,080
Thank you.

502
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,760
We have a gun who's the first lady of the dunes medium.

503
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,040
We've got Kenneth Drake.

504
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,040
This is crazy.

505
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,440
This is his first paragon, but he was Hollywood's haunted psychics done over 50,000 readings.

506
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,680
Let me pull it up.

507
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Hold on.

508
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,320
Let me pull it up for you so I can show everybody while you're saying it.

509
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,320
Hold on.

510
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,640
This is awesome.

511
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:47,760
So Drake was, was, was ranked number one psychic advisor in the U S and Canada for 18 consecutive

512
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,840
years.

513
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:55,200
So what's really exciting is these guys, you know, have never done paracons before at all.

514
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,520
Some of them are doing their first paracond first, first ever summer.

515
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Yeah.

516
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,000
First Connecticut show.

517
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000
Yeah.

518
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,880
As you're doing that, I'll keep rambling though.

519
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,120
The rest, the rest is coming.

520
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:13,100
I know she's done shows before it's their first show with us and she's a psychic medium

521
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:14,100
as well.

522
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:19,560
Uh, Jimmy, our friend, Jimmy, mr. Haunted, the Tino pedmino who's, um, you know, worked

523
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,560
with the Warrens.

524
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,560
He was a videographer.

525
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,720
Them did so much stuff with them.

526
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440
Um, Lauren and Danny, uh, the radicals.

527
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Oh, there we go.

528
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,960
That is that first row.

529
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,960
Thank you.

530
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:30,960
Looking good.

531
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:39,760
And then you did a good job on that shout shout out to Melissa.

532
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,880
Our feet and she's our webmaster and, um, I just bombed her with three other guests.

533
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:51,000
So, um, when you scroll to the next page and we've got three on there now, uh, there'll

534
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,580
be three more literally within the next week.

535
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,480
So I'm really excited about that.

536
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,520
But Dave, uh, Giuliano is, uh, going to be with us.

537
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:06,280
It was, um, an ordained independent Catholic priest and has been researching ghosts for

538
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,280
nearly 40 years.

539
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:14,420
My buddy, everyone's buddy, Adam Bagan, the historian ghost hunter, uh, co-founder and

540
00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:20,440
historically haunted, um, Scott Allen, another psychic medium from the Massachusetts area.

541
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,200
And um, got some demonologists we've just added to the event.

542
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,320
And if you guys know Carl Johnson, he's also coming.

543
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,380
Um, and it's going to be, I think you see where that three are going to be filled very

544
00:32:33,380 --> 00:32:38,440
quickly and we might have to do another row right below it.

545
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,520
Cause, uh, it's just, it's hard for me to say no when we're getting such great guests

546
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,520
who want to be there, right?

547
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Challenge is going to be fitting them in, uh, for half hour slots of talking, uh, for

548
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,720
the, for the two days because, um, I want to fit them all in.

549
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,040
They all, every one of them has amazing stuff to share.

550
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,200
All of this says Dan Sturges.

551
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,200
Thank you.

552
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,040
Sturges is going up, uh, is literally going up as we speak.

553
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:10,100
He'll be, uh, our next great guest and, um, I'm forgetting who else Tom, Tom can tell

554
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:11,580
us as he's doing that.

555
00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:13,720
So Enfield also sharing with us.

556
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Oh, yeah, no, he actually, yeah.

557
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,080
He just said that Joe Franks was at the house last night from the Warren legacy foundation.

558
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,160
He said they had a wild time because they held an event last night, I guess, and it

559
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,160
went really well.

560
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,760
So, um, have you ever, have you ever had Joe Franks at all by chance?

561
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,600
Where is he?

562
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,640
He's located in Connecticut, but I believe so, but I just don't know the exact location

563
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,760
where, but I can definitely reach out to him for you because I tell you one year he would

564
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,920
be a great guest for you guys.

565
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,920
He has a lot of knowledge.

566
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,680
Oh, we'd love to have him.

567
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,680
That sounds great.

568
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,680
Yeah.

569
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,920
I, um, what I found is the first years we were reaching out like crazy first year, second

570
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:59,440
year and now it's, I'm getting, yeah, you're coming to you and I'm saying, I'll fit you

571
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,640
in one way or another.

572
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Right.

573
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,640
Yeah.

574
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,160
I'm looking for that and I'm loving that part of it.

575
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,160
Thank you.

576
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,440
That was the other way father Bob Bailey.

577
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,440
Yeah.

578
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,440
Yeah.

579
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,440
Yeah.

580
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,000
And they're going to come as a tandem and I think they're going to actually be speaking

581
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,520
on stage together.

582
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,280
So we're looking forward to that.

583
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,320
We've already filled those three empty boxes there on the website.

584
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,320
We're on the second row.

585
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,320
We're ready.

586
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,320
The third row.

587
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,320
That is awesome.

588
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:34,120
I do want to do, I want us to do a shout out to Chris from the other parent, the Warren's

589
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,280
spirit secret paracon.

590
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Because when he heard that we were doing a show, he didn't hesitate.

591
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,540
He said, here are some people who I think you should have.

592
00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:44,040
And that's a perfect example.

593
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,920
You think we would be, you know, competitors.

594
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,160
He was doing that show the other side of the state in October.

595
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,720
I was doing the show.

596
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:51,720
We're buds, man.

597
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:53,960
We, you know, we, we try to help each other.

598
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:59,360
We do a mass emails for each other to vendors and to fans.

599
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,640
And it just makes sense.

600
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,640
I love that.

601
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,640
That is awesome.

602
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,880
Now, as a, now as a paranormal researcher yourself, yes.

603
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,560
What got you into it?

604
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,280
Like what experience was it that grabbed you and was like, I got it.

605
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,320
I got to figure out more.

606
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,640
That's a great question.

607
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,800
Cause I was going along to events and I was, I didn't consider them.

608
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,960
I can say I was the host.

609
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,960
I was a host.

610
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,680
I was making sure that what we would do is we would do nightly events where we'd go eat

611
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,680
first.

612
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,400
We would do an orientation.

613
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,240
We'd show the people the equipment.

614
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,000
I've never seen it before.

615
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,440
And then do the investigation three, four hour event.

616
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,160
And so I saw myself as the promoter of it.

617
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,680
I was the one getting the word out and getting people to come.

618
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:50,680
And not so much that person who knew when you walked into a certain part of a house,

619
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,040
I didn't feel it get colder.

620
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,680
I wasn't the conduit.

621
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,680
I wasn't the empath.

622
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,840
I was not a medium.

623
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:03,240
And I will never say that I am, but guys, what I would do is I would take tons of pictures

624
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:07,220
and I got great results that would blow my mind.

625
00:36:07,220 --> 00:36:10,640
When everything was said and done, I was back in the car or back at home and I'm skimming

626
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,640
through and I'm what?

627
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:17,440
How did that one picture with all those actually have?

628
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:23,160
And the one that really jumps out on me, I know it's in my book somewhere, is when we

629
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,880
did the Ansonia Opera House.

630
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,480
Oh, I wanted to ask you how was that?

631
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,680
I never got a chance.

632
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,640
Guys, I wish I could have brought you with me.

633
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Channel 8 was there.

634
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,440
I mean, WTNH News covered it.

635
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,440
I remember, yeah.

636
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,440
I remember.

637
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,440
We were going through.

638
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,480
And I was taking pictures of an upper deck area, which was probably the mezzanine of

639
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,480
the Opera House.

640
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,400
I love to talk about Opera Houses because I'm a real big theater guy.

641
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,480
And an Opera House rarely had opera.

642
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,480
What did it have?

643
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,480
It had Houdini.

644
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,480
Yeah.

645
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,240
It had big symphonies.

646
00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:01,200
It was a convention center before there were convention centers and community.

647
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,200
Everything would go on.

648
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,760
People would love these places and they would go there a few times a week for what?

649
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,400
A nickel to get in, whatever.

650
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,200
And how did Houdini play the Ansonia Opera House?

651
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,480
How did they get him to play Sterling and Derby?

652
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,240
Well, what would happen is he would get on a train.

653
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:26,520
And if City had a grand hotel and an Opera House, that's where he would do his rooting.

654
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:32,240
It wasn't like Megadeth or Metallica doing concert tours that are planned a year in advance

655
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:33,560
city to city.

656
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,600
These guys jump on a train with their suitcase and their props, whether it was Houdini or

657
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Al Jolson or priest Sinatra guys, and they would go.

658
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,200
And so that's how all these amazing people get.

659
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,200
Now, a place like that, how many people attended?

660
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,560
Thousands, millions who had amazing life experiences there.

661
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,560
Oh yeah.

662
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,800
And when you're about not crossing over, where do people not cross over from?

663
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,480
The places they love, the places that they either don't know that they have to leave

664
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,480
or the places they don't want to leave.

665
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,400
And you think of churches and schools and homes, but also these opera houses and theaters.

666
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,320
And that's why they're haunted because they didn't cross over.

667
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,800
So anyway, I took a ton of pictures of this area because it had this white door and the

668
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,600
sun was shining through it though.

669
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,400
And in one picture, I don't know if we can see this guys, but in just one, one.

670
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,400
Let me make it big.

671
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,400
Hold on one sec.

672
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,400
Let me make it big.

673
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

674
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,400
Make me big.

675
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,400
Then one shot.

676
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,400
Oh, there's a person standing there.

677
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,400
You see?

678
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,400
Look at that.

679
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,960
It's a shadow figure.

680
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,960
Wow.

681
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,160
And I didn't discover that till I looked at the roll.

682
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,040
But the guy I was with said, well, take some pictures here also.

683
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,080
I'm feeling something in this area.

684
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,240
Then I took a slew of pictures and it doesn't come out as good in the book as it does on

685
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,680
my phone, but I'm going to try to show.

686
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,780
No, it's not going to look good.

687
00:38:56,780 --> 00:39:04,360
It's two Nosferatu looking specters, literally about 10 feet off the ground, floating across

688
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,200
and you see their faces and their arms and it's unmistakable.

689
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,640
So when did I have my revelation, AJ?

690
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,640
Right there.

691
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,720
When on my phone, when I would see the shots I was taking and I'm like, Oh my gosh.

692
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:24,880
When we went to Dudley town one time and we've been there a few times till we got the cease

693
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,880
and desist.

694
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

695
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:32,400
We were in a group and there was this one guy and you know, he was like, I'm checking

696
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,440
your phone, what is this over?

697
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,160
And like, why is this guy here?

698
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,760
He was there for his girlfriend and you know, that's fair, right?

699
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,600
He was being nice enough and all of a sudden in the middle of this whole, you know, Dudley

700
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,880
town area where you don't hear crickets anymore and you don't see birds and it's, you know,

701
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,240
silent all of a sudden, everyone's pointing to this guy.

702
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,580
Why were you pointing to me?

703
00:39:56,580 --> 00:39:58,880
Because I'm the only one who doesn't believe in this stuff.

704
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,880
No, dude.

705
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:05,120
I'm pointing to you because your hair is being pulled straight up in the air for no reason.

706
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,960
We're all taking pictures and we had to show them the pictures to believe it.

707
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,560
So let me, let me show you a cool picture I got.

708
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:19,920
I did a home investigation in Tennessee and I was in the room where the activity was and

709
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:27,440
on the back wall, the only thing back there was the power panel and I took a picture at

710
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,200
the mirror and I use Polaroid.

711
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,200
Yeah.

712
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,720
All right.

713
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:37,560
If you look close, you can see the lady standing there.

714
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,480
Oh my God.

715
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,480
Right next to the mesh.

716
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,480
Yeah.

717
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,720
And I, I replicated that.

718
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,040
I tried to replicate it nine times.

719
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,960
I used $75 worth of film trying to replicate it and I couldn't do it.

720
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,360
No, you know, it ended up being.

721
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,720
Your mom.

722
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,600
It was, you know what's so crazy though.

723
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:07,360
It makes me so wild that people will knock down apps and all this type of stuff, but

724
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,120
yet you can go out and buy a Polaroid camera and get the best evidence of your life with

725
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,120
it.

726
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,120
And you mean to tell me that these, these spirits or entities can't mess with a phone.

727
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,120
You know what I'm saying?

728
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,440
It drives me nuts sometimes, but I won't go into that one, but you know, it's just, it's

729
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,440
crazy though.

730
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,720
It's so crazy that the most easiest equipment that you can find is really all you need.

731
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:34,040
Just a Polaroid camera or phone camera and maybe a digital recorder.

732
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,200
If you don't have one on your phone.

733
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,200
Yeah.

734
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,200
Really?

735
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,840
I mean, that's really all you need and you can capture some amazing things with it.

736
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,040
It's just so crazy.

737
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:47,320
And when you capture an EVP, as you probably know, Charles, like where is that coming from?

738
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,320
You know what I'm saying?

739
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,880
Like how do you disbunk that?

740
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,600
How do you debunk that when you have like a class A EVP?

741
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Like you know what I'm saying?

742
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,240
Like how do you like, how does scientists say to you?

743
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:02,240
Like someone who's talking, you know, who was there, even if it's just yourself, you know,

744
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:06,680
I can't make a woman's voice as much as I would want to try.

745
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,160
You know, I couldn't do that.

746
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,160
No way.

747
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,160
I'm sure you would.

748
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,160
I'm sure you would.

749
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,160
It's more like this.

750
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Hold on.

751
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,160
Right.

752
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,160
Ready?

753
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,160
Hi there.

754
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,160
Is that the dark one?

755
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:24,160
Or the light one?

756
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,160
Or something.

757
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,200
But yeah.

758
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,160
So what I was saying was, you know, it's just so crazy.

759
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,880
Like having like that capture that you captured on that balcony is absolutely incredible.

760
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,240
Yeah, that's crazy.

761
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:39,720
That is sick.

762
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:40,720
That is so awesome.

763
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:44,720
I mean, you must have been like, I had to put it on the cover.

764
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:45,720
Yeah.

765
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:46,720
Yeah.

766
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:47,720
The skulls aren't.

767
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,720
They're from an ossuary in Europe.

768
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:56,040
Oh, they gave a good look.

769
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,920
Because when we're doing, we were talking about, we touched upon my tours for how many

770
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,920
years I was doing these Dracula tours to Transylvania, selling out, people are loving it.

771
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,000
And they go, hey, Charles, this was great.

772
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,000
Can't we go somewhere else?

773
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,400
Well, all right, let's go to England.

774
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,880
We'll do Dracula part two and go to the Abbey there.

775
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,880
And we went to Whitby, which is the, you know, goth capital of the world.

776
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,320
And we literally put together a one week ghost tour, horror tour, Dracula tour, whatever

777
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,920
you want to call it to England.

778
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,920
Yeah.

779
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,160
Well, fun, so successful trips over.

780
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,800
Where are we going to next?

781
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:37,760
So I had this like a list of 40 or so travelers ready for this.

782
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:48,160
Prague, East Germany, Czech Republic, Cuba, Israel, Hungary, all these places we did ghost

783
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,360
tours to, and we would take a week that we're, you know, during the year and did all these

784
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,360
places.

785
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,160
And we always got amazing results.

786
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,200
And what was great is I was going with like-minded people.

787
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,440
So I was getting a free trip out of it as the host.

788
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,440
I love it.

789
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Yeah, right.

790
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,440
Yeah.

791
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,040
And they were going to places that they probably would never have gone to in their lives.

792
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,120
Otherwise in Eastern Europe, we went to Frankenstein's castle.

793
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,560
I mean, my gosh, you know, you don't get to do that.

794
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Just me.

795
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,840
Where does the wife want to go?

796
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:20,840
Oh, Aruba.

797
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,120
Oh, Disney kids want to go to Disney.

798
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,120
Okay.

799
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,120
Where do I want to go?

800
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,120
I want to go to Frankenstein's castle.

801
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,080
Hello, Transylvania.

802
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,080
Castle.

803
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:35,400
I want to go up the Bargo Pass, the Carpathian Mountains.

804
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:42,160
I want to live and breathe what Bram Stoker wrote about in that novel and follow the footsteps

805
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,760
of Jonathan Harker.

806
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,160
And guys been doing that now 25 years.

807
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,560
I was about to ask, tell us more about these tours, man, because it must be a beautiful

808
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,840
place number one and number two, just the history alone.

809
00:44:53,840 --> 00:45:02,120
Well, we go to what we balance the history of Vlad, the impaler, the real deal, right?

810
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:09,200
Go to his castle with the legend and the myth and the fun of our boy here, Dracula.

811
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,960
And we mesh them together because that's what I would want in a tour.

812
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,400
And it was never such a thing.

813
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:21,920
If you went to Romania, for whatever reason, you'd go to Bucharest, which is the capital,

814
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,880
and maybe someone would take you on a Dracula tour for three hours where you would go to

815
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,880
Bran Castle.

816
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:33,360
Now, Bran Castle, mind you, it's this magnificent, it's the type of thing you would see in a

817
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,440
Dracula movie.

818
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,660
And it's great, but it really didn't have much of a Dracula connection except Vlad was

819
00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:42,560
in prison there maybe for a week.

820
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,960
We went there, but we also went to the ruins of Vlad's actual castle.

821
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,120
We went to the place where Vlad was born, where he was buried, where they dug it up

822
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,840
years later and only found animal bones and a missing head.

823
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,880
Just amazing stuff right here.

824
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,880
Wow.

825
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,480
You're getting me excited, dude.

826
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,800
I gotta start saving up.

827
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:09,120
You won't believe we go to Brasov, which has the black church called that way because it

828
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,720
was burned on the outside and still has the black circle.

829
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:16,240
It was burned and never restored.

830
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:23,600
And that's in the courtyard where all the stakes were that Vlad would impale the farm

831
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,000
and come in to try to invade.

832
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,000
So we do all that.

833
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,000
We go to all those places and it's www.DracTours.com.

834
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,840
D-O-R-E-C-U-U-R-S.

835
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,020
And we go once a year and people just have the greatest time.

836
00:46:39,020 --> 00:46:40,440
This year, guys, you get a kick out of this.

837
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,200
We have a couple who are getting married on the trip.

838
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,880
Oh, that's awesome.

839
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:51,280
So you know, that'll be the best photos on Instagram in history.

840
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,280
Absolutely.

841
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,240
Now, I had a question for you.

842
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,560
Actually, two questions for you.

843
00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:00,880
Number one, how does somebody get involved with getting on these DRAC Tours to get to

844
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,320
go to one of these tours with you guys?

845
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,680
Do you guys leave from the USA?

846
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,160
Tell us a little bit about that and then I'll ask you the next question.

847
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:13,460
Yeah, so it's a one-week tour and we take care of literally everything except souvenirs

848
00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:14,720
and dinners.

849
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:18,480
So if you don't eat and you don't buy goodies, it's all covered.

850
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:24,120
We fly them from JFK so people could be coming from Colorado, they can come from LA, Chicago,

851
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,120
anywhere.

852
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:30,960
We meet as a group in New York, fly out together right to Bucharest, spend a week long traveling

853
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,560
on a luxury bus.

854
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:40,760
We stay at a combination of higher end, nice four-star hotels and creepy, scary, gothy

855
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,920
type hotels that we do a combination of it.

856
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:50,520
And the last night that we're there for our farewell dinner, farewell party is a dress

857
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,520
up.

858
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,400
Everyone, you can't attend unless you're wearing makeup, unless you're wearing a costume.

859
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,860
Whenever it's held, that's our Halloween masquerade ball on the last night.

860
00:48:01,860 --> 00:48:05,840
And that's whether we did the Ghost Tour sing where if we do it, that's pretty much been

861
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,760
our signature move, ending the event with a masquerade ball.

862
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:17,280
And if you ever go to draktours.com and you click on past tour reports, you will literally

863
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,960
see what we do in order, how we do it, all the places we go to.

864
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,720
And you'll see the people dressed up from year to year.

865
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:26,220
And it's like, what?

866
00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:29,640
These guys would have won a contest anywhere they went.

867
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,440
And they spend a year planning what they're going to wear.

868
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,560
What time of the year do you do this?

869
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:36,560
What time of the year?

870
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,800
We're doing two a year.

871
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,120
We were doing the Halloween one, which obviously makes sense.

872
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,920
And if you're not in the business, that's when you go.

873
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,700
You want to go then.

874
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:48,400
And then we were doing a summer one.

875
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,400
Why?

876
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:56,080
For all the haunters and all the people whose lives are so packed during Halloween.

877
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,240
And the other reason the summer thing was for students and for teachers.

878
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:03,400
But we started that since COVID, we did away with the summer one.

879
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,360
And it's just the October one now.

880
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,160
It's from 28th to November 4th.

881
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,160
Oh, wow.

882
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,160
All right.

883
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,160
That's awesome, man.

884
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,000
I wanted to ask you one question.

885
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,320
One last question was about Paracon.

886
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:23,320
And that was, have you ever had anybody film for you guys a free video of the Paracon,

887
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,320
of the whole event?

888
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,000
Have you guys ever had anyone do that?

889
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,440
Sounds like there's an offer that's going to follow this.

890
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,480
That's what I'm waiting for.

891
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,480
There is.

892
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,480
Because there is.

893
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,880
I love just filming in general, and I would love to just free film for you guys that want

894
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,440
like a video for you guys of Paracon.

895
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,120
I think that'd be just so much fun.

896
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:47,440
So I got to tell you, every year that's been done, and I've yet to see the footage.

897
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,840
So this is, this is people come and it's like, yeah, sure.

898
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:53,840
Do it.

899
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,840
Just let me see when you're done.

900
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,240
First year was what?

901
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:58,440
Four years ago.

902
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,480
Still waiting to see the raw footage.

903
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,600
Oh my God.

904
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,440
No, see, I'm talking about bringing a lavalier, Mike, guests, like get the people that are

905
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,640
coming in and like say, like, what do you think of the Paracon and like interview them

906
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,960
and you know, get them going and then also do the vendor shots and do cinematic shots.

907
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,960
Like I love that.

908
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,960
If you can't tell, you're passionate about it.

909
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,960
I'm passionate about it, man.

910
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,960
I love it.

911
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,960
That's what I love.

912
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,960
It's a done deal.

913
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,960
We got it.

914
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:23,960
All right.

915
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,960
We'll talk more on it for sure.

916
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,960
For sure.

917
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:26,960
All right.

918
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,960
Awesome.

919
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,680
Mike, thank you so much for you, your partner, for everybody who is involved in doing this

920
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,400
Paracon and getting it started, the draft tours, everything that you're doing, Charles,

921
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,040
thank you so much from my heart and everyone in this field to thank you for what you're

922
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,040
doing.

923
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,040
Cause honestly, it's amazing.

924
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,040
Thank you.

925
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,960
I appreciate being on and being able to share all the fun stuff and we're going to, we're

926
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,460
going to share this interview like crazy and hopefully get a lot of listeners and a lot

927
00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:56,960
of people attending the event.

928
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,960
Definitely.

929
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,720
Well, you got to come back with Thomas.

930
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:03,320
I want to meet Thomas too.

931
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,320
So how about this?

932
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,000
We'll schedule something before the Paracon if you guys are free and we'll get you guys

933
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,840
on and then we'll promote it for the Paracon.

934
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,640
Looking forward to it guys.

935
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:12,640
Thank you so much.

936
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,080
Hey, Charles, thank you, man.

937
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,120
God bless you, brother.

938
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,120
Thank you again.

939
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,120
Love and light, my brother.

940
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,120
Yes.

941
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Yes.

942
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,120
All right.

943
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,120
Talk to you soon.

944
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,120
Wow, man.

945
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,920
I tell you, that was such a great, great interview, man.

946
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,920
What did you think?

947
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:26,920
I love that guy.

948
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,920
He's energetic, man.

949
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,920
I love that guy.

950
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,280
Charles pumps me up because he is passionate about this field.

951
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,760
He's passionate about his work and that's what I love about a man.

952
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,040
He does not bullshit around.

953
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,560
He's passionate about what he loves to do and he does it.

954
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,920
And that's something that, you know, I love seeing it.

955
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,000
You know, it's sad that like we talked earlier about how, yes, you're going to have the negative

956
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000
people in the field and whatnot, but that's in any field, whatever.

957
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,800
But it's just so good to see that there is people like Charles that is bringing these

958
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:02,160
events, bringing these conventions towards paranormal enthusiasts, other people that

959
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,200
maybe just are having experiences.

960
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,000
It's just like investigating, man.

961
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,600
It's all about intentions.

962
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:15,360
If you go in with the intention of making people happy, getting people to understand,

963
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,280
you know, the paranormal, you're going to have a great time.

964
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,680
You're going to have a wonderful time.

965
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:26,360
If you're in it just for the money or just for the sales of the merge, you're not going

966
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,440
to accomplish what you want to, you know?

967
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,440
Exactly.

968
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,440
You're absolutely right.

969
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,440
You're absolutely right.

970
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,760
And you know what, man, I'm so looking forward to have Thomas on too next time, man.

971
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,760
You know, I wish he was here.

972
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,760
Look, come on.

973
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,560
I wish I knew that his time was a little bit different.

974
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,240
I would have totally pushed us a little bit back for her to have him on.

975
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:44,240
But you know what?

976
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:48,200
We set something up so that we can promote the Paracon coming up this July.

977
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:53,640
As you see on the bottom, everyone, the Baldwin Center in Stratford, Connecticut, the Connecticut

978
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:59,040
Paracon, July 20th through the 21st, 2024.

979
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,360
Come down, check it out.

980
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,440
You're going to love it.

981
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,040
There's some amazing guest speakers.

982
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,000
Just go to paracon.org.

983
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,000
You'll check it out.

984
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,540
You'll see all the guest speakers as we showed earlier or just look back on this and you'll

985
00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:12,400
be able to find out some of the guest speakers.

986
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,240
But definitely follow the page for more guest speakers to come as Charles was talking about

987
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:17,920
and for more stuff to come.

988
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,400
Thomas, we appreciate you and Charles.

989
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,400
Thank you so much.

990
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:26,120
And I can't wait to have you on my friend and for everyone listening, please make sure

991
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,320
to head over to all podcasts, listening platforms to listen to us on the go.

992
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,880
We are talking with the source and John, where can they find your stuff that my friend?

993
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:36,920
Yeah, man.

994
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:46,440
So this Tuesday at 12 PM Mountain Time or 2 PM Eastern, I'll be doing the live spirit

995
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,720
box session, uh, trying to talk to the Jameson family.

996
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:57,920
I'm going to bring that cold case back because if you miss my show on Friday, I talked to

997
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:05,920
psychic medium, Shannon boom guard, and she was, she actually works with the FBI in solving

998
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,640
cases and this was one of those cases.

999
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,480
So we discussed it all.

1000
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,840
I suggest you guys go back and check it out.

1001
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,000
And yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to try to communicate with the Jameson family again

1002
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,000
on Tuesday.

1003
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,000
So awesome, man.

1004
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,000
Awesome.

1005
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,880
And then what on Friday is check out legit, correct?

1006
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,880
Yeah, legit.

1007
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,120
Uh, the darkness descends with JK 47.

1008
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Um, usually, uh, you know, we'll look at a live investigations, look at some clips, uh,

1009
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,680
or if I have a guest like, like Shannon was on last week, uh, it took up the whole hour.

1010
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,000
It just flew by, just flew by, man.

1011
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,680
Well, those are always the best, man.

1012
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,080
You know, when you have someone great that's on like, especially today, we had Charles

1013
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,080
on he's passionate.

1014
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,640
He's a great talker like us.

1015
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,280
So at the time flew by, you know, and that's what you look for as a host.

1016
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,320
But thank you guys so much for tuning in.

1017
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:02,480
We appreciate every single one of you head over to talking with the source on Facebook,

1018
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:08,840
on all social medias and on all podcasts, listening platforms to listen on the go.

1019
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:14,320
Um, until next time, my name is AJ Capasso, host and founder of talking with the source.

1020
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,160
I'm here with my best friend on this side, sorry.

1021
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,720
And host and founder Jonathan keywords and also our other guests who's in the back right

1022
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:28,680
now, who's actually, um, you know, in the comments, Chris, sir, Chris, we hope you get

1023
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,680
better.

1024
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,680
We hope you feel better.

1025
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,680
We will see you next week.

1026
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,680
Love you too, my friend.

1027
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,520
And until next time, thank you guys so much for checking out this show.

1028
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,520
We will see you soon.

1029
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,520
Later.

1030
00:55:39,520 --> 00:56:03,720
Peace out.