1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,820 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 2 00:00:12,820 --> 00:00:36,160 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 3 00:00:42,820 --> 00:01:04,440 What's going on everybody? 4 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,920 This is AJ Capasso here, host of Talking With The Source. 5 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:15,840 I'm here with my best friend and host, Jonathan Kieworth of JK 47 Paranormal Investigations. 6 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,360 What is going on my friend? 7 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,360 What's up dude? 8 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,360 Happy St. Patty's Day. 9 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,280 I got my St. Patrick's shirt on. 10 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,400 Oh, watch out, watch out. 11 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,080 I'm ready man. 12 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,680 Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone who's on watching. 13 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,200 Hope you guys are having a great day. 14 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,080 Hope you guys are eating some corned beef and hash. 15 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:42,800 We have an amazing guest today, but first I want to shout out real quick Global Ghost 16 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Hunt. 17 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,520 It's coming up on April 25th to May 5th. 18 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:52,800 We want to get your team signed up, so head over to www.globalghosthunt.com. 19 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:58,300 We have amazing locations that are still looking for teams to do their investigation at. 20 00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:02,320 One of them is the Enfield Demon House, which is in Connecticut. 21 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,200 They're looking for a team for their investigation for the spring event. 22 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,680 If you know any teams out in the Connecticut area in the USA, please let us know. 23 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,600 You should do it. 24 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,160 I'm doing October. 25 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,560 Me, you, Brian probably. 26 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,040 It's going to be fun. 27 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,040 It's going to be fun. 28 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,960 It's a thing we'll talk about later on a little bit down the road. 29 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:33,720 Yeah, anybody who has a team sign up at www.globalghosthunt.com and we also want to shout out to ParaPost 30 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,680 Network, which we are live on right now. 31 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,920 So shout out to Brian Laberty and shout out to Chris. 32 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:45,160 But guys, we have an amazing guest on today. 33 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,940 Her name is Kathy McDaniels. 34 00:02:46,940 --> 00:02:54,040 She is an author of an amazing book that tells all about her experience when she had her 35 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,040 near death experience. 36 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,040 And we're going to bring her on. 37 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,960 She's going to tell a generalized kind of summarized story because you need to go buy 38 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,260 this book. 39 00:03:02,260 --> 00:03:03,580 This book is amazing. 40 00:03:03,580 --> 00:03:05,500 It tells in depth. 41 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:07,440 And I want you guys to check this out. 42 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,080 So let's bring her forward and let's talk about some near death experiences. 43 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Hey, Nanda. 44 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,360 Here's Kathy McDaniels. 45 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,360 Hey, Kathy. 46 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,360 How are you doing? 47 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,360 Good. 48 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,360 How have you been? 49 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,360 Fine. 50 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,360 I'm a McDaniels. 51 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,360 So St. Patrick's Day is a big thing. 52 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,360 Yeah. 53 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,360 Awesome. 54 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,360 You eating some corned beefing hash today? 55 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,360 Not on your life. 56 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,360 No. 57 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Well, thank you for not rubbing it in our face. 58 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,440 We appreciate it. 59 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,440 We wore green at least. 60 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,440 We wore green. 61 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Yeah. 62 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Well, not me, but yes, everyone else wore green. 63 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Yes. 64 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,440 Yeah. 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Why don't you tell us what happened? 66 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Because you didn't wear green. 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:51,640 What do you mean? 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,640 I just don't have a green. 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Oh, because I got written on my forehead. 70 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,640 Yeah. 71 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,640 Long story. 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,640 Yeah. 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Long story short, I woke up with someone painting eyebrows and stuff on my face and eyelashes. 74 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,360 And my girlfriend thought it was funny to do it right before the show. 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,520 So yeah, it was great. 76 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,520 So we're a little late. 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Yeah, we're a little late. 78 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:23,520 You know, first thing I want to ask you, Kathy, is I'm a near death experiencer myself. 79 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:29,760 And I wanted to ask you, when you had this experience, were you frightened? 80 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Were you terrified? 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Were you, did you feel loved like I did? 82 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Like what did you feel during this experience? 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,240 Well, I'll fit right into your show here. 84 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,280 I was terrified. 85 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,960 At first, I really was. 86 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,980 I had been caring for a friend and got all run down. 87 00:04:46,980 --> 00:04:51,520 So I got pneumonia that went into lung failure. 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,880 They threw me in a three week coma. 89 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,880 The doctor said, we're going to give you this amnesia thing that knock you out because we're 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,880 going to do terrible things to you and you don't want to know. 91 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:01,880 Yeah. 92 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,880 Yeah. 93 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,080 So he said, your brain's going to go offline and you will not be able to remember anything 94 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,200 that happens to you. 95 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,040 So boom, I went out. 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,140 And then I woke up and it was pitch dark and there was no sound. 97 00:05:16,140 --> 00:05:20,020 And I had no idea what was happening or where I was. 98 00:05:20,020 --> 00:05:24,440 So all I could do was just kind of float or whatever I was doing. 99 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,240 But then it turned, started getting a little lighter. 100 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,240 It got foggy. 101 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,240 It got hot. 102 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,240 It got smelly. 103 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,240 It got weird. 104 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,200 People moaning and screaming and everything. 105 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,200 And I'm thinking, oh no, what the heck have I got myself into here? 106 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,200 Yeah. 107 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Where'd you go? 108 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,480 You know, that's what I'd be thinking. 109 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,080 It was not looking good. 110 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,600 So this horrible voice came out and said, do you know where you are? 111 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,400 And I thought, I thought, I thought, and I thought hell. 112 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,300 And then this thing just, kind of a laughing. 113 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:01,040 So freaked me out. 114 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,040 And I just took off running in the darkness. 115 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:09,800 And then I stopped because I didn't know if I was stepping a hole or run into a wall. 116 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:15,660 And then all of a sudden these bright lights came up and I looked around and I was like 117 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:20,800 in this bombed out city, like New York had been hit by a bomb and there were people running 118 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,280 and screaming and fires and it was awful. 119 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:29,760 And so tucked down in behind some concrete, trying to get my wits about me. 120 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,680 And you know, weird people were going by. 121 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,920 I thought I like this great big alien thing walk by. 122 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,920 I thought, wow. 123 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,560 But you know, so I tried to escape from that. 124 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,600 And as I climbed over a wall, I fell backwards and I thought, oh man, this is going to hurt. 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,520 And boom, the lights went out. 126 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:54,240 Then the lights came up and I had a number of situations. 127 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,940 This kept happening over and over and they get worse. 128 00:06:57,940 --> 00:07:04,540 You know, the first one was a demon guy, big guy that wanted me to do one thing for him. 129 00:07:04,540 --> 00:07:09,680 And then I could get out and that when they showed me this huge blackberry patch that 130 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,360 went on for miles and gave me some little paper cutting scissors and said, cut it all 131 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,360 down and I'll get you out of here. 132 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,660 And that didn't end well. 133 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:24,320 So when I finally said, cut it yourself kind of thing, he says, OK, it's just going to 134 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:25,320 get worse. 135 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,600 And then the lights go out and the lights come up. 136 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:35,840 It was it was on and on and on with one thing after another, things that I would not do 137 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,320 on the earth, you know, that I found were immoral or whatever. 138 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,240 They'd say, you just do that and then we'll get you out. 139 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,320 Otherwise, just despair because you're not leaving. 140 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,160 Well, I never felt dead. 141 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:54,080 I never you don't feel dead because you're you, you know, you're the body's like a car. 142 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,960 So I just wandered around on this road. 143 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:02,000 There was this one road and I spent a lot of time on that. 144 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,360 And then I would run into situations on the road. 145 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,840 The worst was the zombies. 146 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,840 All right. 147 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,740 It's hard to beat a pack of slathering zombies that attack you. 148 00:08:12,740 --> 00:08:18,880 And then, oh, wait, hold on, because I wait, wait, hold on, because I have dreams, right? 149 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:25,020 That will last six to eight months sometimes, like episodes where I'll go to sleep and I'll 150 00:08:25,020 --> 00:08:27,120 wake up where I left off the night before. 151 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,960 One of them, one of them was a six month zombie apocalypse dream. 152 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,960 Oh, no. 153 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Yeah. 154 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,080 And like, I tell you what, so like, I know the fear of what you're talking about when 155 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,740 you're talking about seeing those zombies. 156 00:08:38,740 --> 00:08:43,600 So I can't imagine what you witnessed being in a real situation like that. 157 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,600 You know what I mean? 158 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,600 Yeah. 159 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:52,000 You know, I when I got back, I could go back and determine why all of these things happened 160 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,000 to me. 161 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,960 At the time it was happening, it was real. 162 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,520 And I mean, manifestation is a powerful thing. 163 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:05,040 And yeah, I was coming along the road and I could see it's never got light there. 164 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,120 You know, there's no stars, no, no moon, no clock, no mirrors. 165 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,420 So you can see if you're dead or not. 166 00:09:12,420 --> 00:09:13,520 People ask me that all the time. 167 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,720 It's like a mirror in hell. 168 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:15,720 I think not. 169 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:22,000 But anyway, I saw these people milling around on my road, you know, and that was the only 170 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 road there was. 171 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,960 And I thought, well, crud, I got to get past these, whatever they are, because it's so 172 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,240 dim, couldn't quite make out. 173 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,360 So I thought, well, they're kind of lurching and limping and I then growling and stuff. 174 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,260 I know crud. 175 00:09:37,260 --> 00:09:40,520 So anyway, I thought I'll just I'll just act like they are. 176 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,520 All right. 177 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,160 You know, slow myself down, limp, kind of kind of make noises and I'll just kind of, 178 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,840 you know, sneak through and get to the other side, get on my way. 179 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,160 I got about halfway through this group, there was probably 20 of them. 180 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:58,280 Some of them had they're all in rags, but like the women had like, I don't know, shawls 181 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,280 and stuff. 182 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,000 And and I got halfway through this group and they all froze. 183 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Oh, now I got a freeze, but I think they've noticed something's different. 184 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,080 And of course, the ladies start ladies. 185 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,160 That's that's that's an expression that doesn't fit here. 186 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,720 But they move to the outside and then the guys are all coming all around me. 187 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:27,080 And this one comes up and punches me in the chest, knocks me back on my back. 188 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,560 Another one walked by and just kicked me in the side. 189 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:34,960 And then I you know, then they jumped up and they do what zombies do. 190 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,680 And their faces were like like lepers. 191 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:42,240 Their skin was falling off and and their eyes were all buggy and weird. 192 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,160 I mean, this was a horrible experience. 193 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,920 I don't want to get to detail. 194 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Did you know? 195 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,320 Did you feel like pain? 196 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,320 Did you feel pain? 197 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 198 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,760 You're you're you're alive. 199 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,440 You just feel alive. 200 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,620 And so finally, they backed off and this one came got his face right into mine. 201 00:11:06,620 --> 00:11:11,160 And I noticed his cheek was starting to fall off and he had this horrible breath. 202 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:16,280 And he said, we all have AIDS and now you do, too. 203 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,280 And you can't die. 204 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,120 You're just going to get sicker and sicker. 205 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:26,360 So I sat there and and they finally backed off and a demon lady came and got me and said, 206 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,360 you're with us. 207 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,480 Come on, get your shit together and come along. 208 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:36,240 So you know, I mean, this is all real. 209 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,520 You know, it's just you think. 210 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,120 And how did I get here? 211 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,920 I'm you know, I'm not going to get up, get get give up. 212 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,040 I'm going to get out of here. 213 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,040 I am. 214 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,040 I'm a strong survivor. 215 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,400 And but this is starting to wear me down. 216 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:56,240 I mean, this felt like at least two years of all because there's no time and eternal 217 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,240 now. 218 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,520 So you can't tell. 219 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,120 But I kept thinking, you know, I'm getting I'm kind of losing hope here. 220 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:10,880 But anyway, she drags us through this immense tundra of snow and wind and snow. 221 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,540 It started on the just on the ground. 222 00:12:12,540 --> 00:12:15,400 By the time we got where we were going, it was up to our chest. 223 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:20,940 There was probably 10 of us ladies that all had gone through the same thing. 224 00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:24,460 We get to the shack in the middle of freaking nowhere. 225 00:12:24,460 --> 00:12:26,280 And she opens the door. 226 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,640 There's the wind and snow is blown through. 227 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,640 There's no insulation. 228 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,400 The windows are cracked and she sits us all on the floor. 229 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,280 There's no furniture and we're huddled up there. 230 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,640 We afraid to talk to each other or cold. 231 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,360 And she says, OK, now we wait for customers. 232 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,360 What? 233 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:49,000 And we go, how could this ever get any worse? 234 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,680 You know, so I said, you know, I had to mouth off. 235 00:12:53,680 --> 00:13:01,280 I said, you know, I've been here a while and this is particularly nasty. 236 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,920 Is there something going on that is causing this that I should know about? 237 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,440 And she says, well, it's Christmas on Earth. 238 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,040 That's always the worst day in hell. 239 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,640 And I thought, oh, no, that can't be right. 240 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,880 You know, no, that sound is so final, you know. 241 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,960 And I said, then I got mad. 242 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,160 I thought, darn it. 243 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,920 No, this isn't right. 244 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,160 And so I just started singing a Christmas carol. 245 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,840 I knew that would probably bugger crazy. 246 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:38,920 So I just started with a way in a manger and she shook her stick and yelled, shut up. 247 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,660 And then the other ladies kind of thought, ah, you know, got her coat. 248 00:13:42,660 --> 00:13:46,140 So it was a way in a manger, no crib for his bed. 249 00:13:46,140 --> 00:13:47,560 The little Lord. 250 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:51,000 And she jumped at me and I just closed my eyes. 251 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,680 And the lights went out and then the lights came up. 252 00:13:55,680 --> 00:14:08,200 But this time the light was warm and loving and full of joy and bliss and sparkly white. 253 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,280 I'm tumbling around in this love. 254 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,720 Everything else you forget. 255 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:13,720 There's nothing. 256 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:14,720 Yeah, nothing. 257 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:15,720 Yeah. 258 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,720 Just this love. 259 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,000 And and oh, it was just so wonderful. 260 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,120 And it sort of settled down a little bit so I could not like a cathedral. 261 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,200 But everything was white, but a lovely white. 262 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,680 It didn't hurt your eyes. 263 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,480 And I looked over and a friend that I had been taking care of for nine months, we had 264 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:40,920 been engaged for six years and we'd gone our separate ways, but we were best friends. 265 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,840 He asked me to come take care of him. 266 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:43,840 He needed two caregivers. 267 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,540 He was having treatments for leukemia. 268 00:14:46,540 --> 00:14:47,540 He died. 269 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:48,680 It broke my heart. 270 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:49,680 He died. 271 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:50,680 He died at age 33. 272 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,640 So he stand in there. 273 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,640 This is a month ago. 274 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:59,200 He's died and I'm going, Oh my gosh, you know, and he's looking great. 275 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,240 He's like giving me the yeah, this is great thing. 276 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,600 And I thought, Oh, he's not aware that he's dead, you know? 277 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,600 Yeah. 278 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,240 And I'm thinking he heard my thoughts. 279 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Yeah. 280 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:23,440 So real quick, AJ, I just want you to write down at 1335 to 1345, there was a light anomaly 281 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,080 on by their, her head where the giraffe was. 282 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Okay. 283 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Something very white just shot. 284 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,360 Yeah. 285 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,080 It was really bright. 286 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,080 It was really bright. 287 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,080 Yeah. 288 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,800 I've never had that happen before. 289 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:38,800 That's probably Pat. 290 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,800 That's the guy that died. 291 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:40,800 Oh, how exciting. 292 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,800 That is awesome. 293 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,040 I'm going to flip it for you. 294 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,040 Yeah. 295 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Oh, that is so cool. 296 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,360 Honestly. 297 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:56,920 So anyway, there he goes. 298 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,100 He's standing there. 299 00:15:58,100 --> 00:16:06,000 I think, you know, he doesn't know he's dead and he comes a little closer and I'm thinking, 300 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000 this is so strange. 301 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,880 And I, I kind of caught something out of the corner of my eye and it, it was like this 302 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,960 big table with a huge book open about halfway. 303 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,200 And I thought he was showing me something in that book, but I can't remember what it 304 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,200 was. 305 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,840 Of course, when I get back, I realized it was probably, he was showing me my life. 306 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:28,040 I'm halfway through because he came up and he said, now Mary Kay, you've got too much 307 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,160 left to do. 308 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,080 And I thought, huh, they're throwing me out. 309 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,080 I said, no, no, no, no, no, no. 310 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Who wants to leave this place? 311 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,080 Are you kidding? 312 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,080 I just said, no, uh-uh. 313 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,320 You know, find something else, but this is not going to happen. 314 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,320 Boom. 315 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,320 The lights go out. 316 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,320 The lights come on. 317 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Now it's too darn bright again. 318 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,120 And there's people milling about and I'm thinking, oh, good Lord, I'm back in hell. 319 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:59,720 But then this one person turns around and it's my daughter and she says, mom's back. 320 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,440 And I thought, what the heck is going on? 321 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,560 I couldn't move. 322 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,120 I couldn't do anything because I, you know, I had my trach in my throat, so I couldn't 323 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:10,120 talk. 324 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:11,120 I'm 86 pounds. 325 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:12,560 So I've got no muscle mass. 326 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,160 I could blink and move one finger. 327 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,120 And these people are all screaming and running around the room. 328 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:21,680 And I'm just, you know, I'm freaked out again. 329 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,160 And my daughter sits down and says, oh, mom, you've been gone three weeks. 330 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,720 The doctor said you weren't going to make it. 331 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,200 And my mom pipes up. 332 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,720 Oh, I had a prayer circle going around the globe. 333 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:33,720 We brought you back. 334 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,720 And I thought, you terrible woman. 335 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,320 Yeah, right. 336 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,320 Yeah. 337 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,800 But, but see, isn't that weird? 338 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,800 Isn't that weird? 339 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,200 It was only three weeks. 340 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,120 But to you, when you were with the zombies and stuff, it felt like two years. 341 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:51,120 Oh yeah. 342 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:52,880 I was gone so long. 343 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,760 And then, yeah, it was like, it was like a movie. 344 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,160 It was like episodes that you were going through. 345 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,360 It was wild. 346 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,040 That was, you know what that was? 347 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,320 I really, I, you know, I was a Catholic born and raised class. 348 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,280 And from day one, I was told, you know, there's heaven, there's hell, there's purgatory. 349 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,920 You know, nobody goes straight to heaven. 350 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,760 I know Jesus died for your sins, but nobody goes straight to heaven. 351 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,000 Everybody goes to purgatory. 352 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,460 You get your little sins burned off and then you cure and you can go to heaven. 353 00:18:20,460 --> 00:18:22,600 So I believe that I really did. 354 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,640 I was a good, good Catholic. 355 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,320 I had extra prayers, extra rosaries, all this stuff. 356 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,920 They would give you indulgences. 357 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,880 You know, if you got 300 days off of purgatory, if you said two rogeries on a Thursday, you 358 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,680 know, so I had, I thought it's a math thing, right? 359 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,680 I thought I had a big bank account of indulgences. 360 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,680 It didn't work. 361 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,000 Long currency. 362 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000 I don't know. 363 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,000 It expired. 364 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,680 But so I, I think I know. 365 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,680 No rollover points. 366 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,200 No, no, no rollover. 367 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,720 I manifested that whole thing. 368 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,720 I really do. 369 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,760 I believed it so firmly that it would happen. 370 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,760 I did. 371 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,760 And I could go back. 372 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:07,240 It took me 10 years of worrying about this before I finally found a group where I could 373 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,600 talk to somebody. 374 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:14,320 But I took all the horrible things in my life and I can go back and I can tell you, I was 375 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,520 in a terrible earthquake in 1989. 376 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Our town fell down, fires, people running, screaming everywhere. 377 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,480 All right. 378 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,480 That was the first one. 379 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,800 I can go to every single one of them and say, oh my God, that was this. 380 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,400 I took everything bad and I made it worse. 381 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,200 And I made my very own purgatory because there wasn't one. 382 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,420 So I also believe I plan my own life. 383 00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:37,600 So I plan that I'm told that I'm a very brave soul. 384 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,800 I think is the expression. 385 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,800 And, and I plan that so that I could come back and tell people don't do that. 386 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,800 Yeah. 387 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,800 The trip. 388 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,680 God is all loving, all forgiving. 389 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,840 AJ, you know, you've been in that love. 390 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,120 There is no judgment, no nothing. 391 00:19:54,120 --> 00:20:00,640 It's telling me, did it feel like a, cause it felt like me, like I was wrapped in a cocoon 392 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,640 of love. 393 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,800 That's what it felt like. 394 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,800 Yes. 395 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,800 Oh, you don't want to take it. 396 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,800 You just want to stay there. 397 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,640 I was so mad when I came back. 398 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,920 I was so mad. 399 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,640 I was like, why didn't you keep me here? 400 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,640 You know what I mean? 401 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,520 I was like, I did not want to leave. 402 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,520 No, you don't. 403 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,640 But you knew it was home. 404 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,640 You knew it was home. 405 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,640 It's home. 406 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,640 Exactly. 407 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,640 There's no other word for it. 408 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,600 You are home, but you had to come back. 409 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,600 I had to come back. 410 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,520 All these people have to come back and you've got a podcast. 411 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,520 I got a story. 412 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,840 I'm on your podcast. 413 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,440 We planned all that. 414 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Exactly. 415 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,440 Exactly. 416 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,440 I believe it. 417 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,920 I believe we have a, like a lot, we do a lot of spirit communication work and they say 418 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,880 to us that we plan our lives. 419 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,640 We sit down, we have guides that guide us through our life. 420 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,640 Three of them through our life. 421 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,640 They said that our main, that we'll switch out in and out. 422 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,360 And then they also told us that, you know, like our lives, we sit down and have soul 423 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:56,800 plans with other souls to meet them in life. 424 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:02,520 Like I'm meeting you and other friends like John that I met through this podcast and all 425 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,520 this stuff. 426 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,800 And now I have all my friends that are all on the podcast on paranormal side and I have 427 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,280 like no friends where I live. 428 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,120 It's pretty funny, but you know, God is funny. 429 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:13,120 God is funny. 430 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,400 Like great sense of humor. 431 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,400 Yeah. 432 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,400 Great sense of humor. 433 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,400 Yeah. 434 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,400 Yeah. 435 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,560 It just makes your life so much easier. 436 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,560 You know, when I came back and I, you know, again, I'm in the hospital, I had to go to 437 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,440 rehab for a month to learn how to walk and talk and even go up downstairs for every, 438 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,440 forgot it. 439 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,600 And I'm thinking too much left to do too much. 440 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,940 What kind of a joke is that? 441 00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:41,680 So it took 10 years to get to Ions took probably five years before I, I wrote the book, you 442 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,920 know, and then I thought, how am I going to get it out was COVID. 443 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,200 How am I going to get this out? 444 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:53,160 And then this gal, a cell, uh, here's the Salisbury calls from New Zealand and says, 445 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,720 I want you on my podcast. 446 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,440 I had no idea what that was. 447 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,380 I told her I didn't have the money to fly to New Zealand. 448 00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:01,000 She says, no, no, no. 449 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,760 You know, so she had, she had had two near death experiences. 450 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:14,800 And so I got on that podcast and that, but you know, this is like number 135 in the last 451 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,920 two and a half years and I still got three more in the next two weeks. 452 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,360 So that's how God works this out. 453 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:25,440 We all, you know, we just, I love it. 454 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,920 You know, when that dawns on you, yeah. 455 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:34,440 And hurt you sharing your experiences, not, not being afraid to share what you experienced 456 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,160 and what you believe in. 457 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:43,200 And I really do feel like that source and the spirit coming through, just don't be afraid. 458 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,560 You know, it's up to them whether they choose to believe you or not. 459 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,400 Don't be afraid to speak your mind. 460 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,400 Yeah. 461 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,400 Yeah. 462 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,920 Now, one of the questions I had for you, one of the things that I remember from my near 463 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:03,560 death experiences, one, my life review and two, I remember that we are all connected 464 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,760 soul consciousness and one source. 465 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,120 Did you ever feel that way during years? 466 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,520 I didn't stay long enough to get a life review. 467 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,520 I feel jipped. 468 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:18,240 I mean, you know, I was waiting for you to get a life review. 469 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,240 Yeah. 470 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,440 I, I, people just love those. 471 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,840 And at first I thought, Ooh, that doesn't sound very good, but most people find it very 472 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,840 interesting. 473 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,820 It is because it's through the eyes of other people. 474 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:35,440 So like every experience that you've ever had, like negative or positive, you get to 475 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,080 see it from how they felt about you. 476 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:45,320 And it's very, it's very like humbling, but it's also very hard to watch yourself from 477 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,200 someone else's point of view, especially when it's a negative thing where like, I was mean 478 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,680 to someone when I was younger, it was a girl in elementary school who was a, she was a 479 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,240 bigger girl and she liked me and because my friends made fun of me for it, I made fun 480 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,240 of her. 481 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,920 And after I came back, I ended up finding her on Facebook and I ended up having a conversation 482 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,320 and apologizing to her for what I did in elementary school. 483 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,360 And she, she, she was like, she was like, Oh my God, you didn't have to do that. 484 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:13,360 But I remember that. 485 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:17,800 And I'm like, listen, I know that that moment shaped your life in a big way. 486 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,960 I was like, and I'm sorry for that. 487 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,320 And she, me and her friends now, and it's amazing, but if I didn't have that life review 488 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,080 and I didn't get to see the people I was hurting, like without even knowing, I was like, wow. 489 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:34,080 So now it's like just showing love to everybody is my biggest thing, you know? 490 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,080 You're right. 491 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,920 When I got back, I still, I had troubles. 492 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,960 I, I didn't want this to happen again. 493 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,400 And you know, I prayed really, really hard and I says, you know, I'm tired of the, thou 494 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,080 shalt not give me something positive I can do. 495 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,960 And it took a couple of months, but the, the, the, these things came in in twos. 496 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:59,680 It was be, Kathy, just be loving and kind, merciful and forgiving, encouraging, grateful, 497 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,320 non-judgmental and useful. 498 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,320 Yeah. 499 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,960 So that's my mantra, you know? 500 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,560 I like it. 501 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:11,120 You know, if nothing else, just strive to be loving and kind, get up every morning, say, 502 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:16,960 okay, today, no matter what, no matter who I run into, just be loving and kind. 503 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,560 And it changes the whole dynamic around you. 504 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,560 Yeah. 505 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Yeah, absolutely. 506 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,360 And I think that helps with your manifestation. 507 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:30,040 You know, if you're manifesting this love and kindness, you're going to receive it back. 508 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,920 So you're only going to meet those good people and you know, it's a, you know, that's what 509 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,920 I think. 510 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,920 Yeah. 511 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,840 Have you ever heard, sorry, not to cut you off Kathy. 512 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,440 Have you ever, have you ever heard of the red car theory? 513 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,440 No. 514 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Okay. 515 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,920 So when you were driving today, how many red cars did you spot? 516 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,080 I wasn't driving, but let's just say, you're out. 517 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,640 Let's just say five. 518 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,640 Five. 519 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,640 All right. 520 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,280 So randomly, you don't really know exactly how many, but if I was to tell you now, when 521 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:03,560 you left the house after this podcast to remember how many cars you would see, you would remember, 522 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,560 right? 523 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,280 Because you'd be looking for them. 524 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,280 Right. 525 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,200 So basically our opportunities and our luck and all that type of stuff, if we're looking 526 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,960 for those types of opportunities, those opportunities will actually show up in our life. 527 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,600 Whereas if we're not looking for them, like the red car, they'll be passing us by without 528 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,880 even seeing it. 529 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,160 So I think that manifestation works in the same way because the universe doesn't know 530 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,880 the word don't. 531 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,800 It just knows I want. 532 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,880 So it's not, I don't want, it's I want. 533 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,560 So even in the things that you don't want, you can manifest into your life. 534 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,560 You get what I'm saying? 535 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,280 Like, for example, like when I had my car before it got totaled, I had this thing in 536 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,720 my head that my tire was going to go, my tire was going to pop. 537 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,160 Well literally two weeks later, my tire popped. 538 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,160 I got into an accident. 539 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,560 I totaled my car. 540 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,560 It was wild. 541 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,560 It was totally wild. 542 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,480 Like it goes to show that manifestation is so real, but you have to be selective on how 543 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,120 you're actually doing your work. 544 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,120 Exactly. 545 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,800 The universe doesn't know the word don't. 546 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,920 I figured that one out the hard way. 547 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,920 Yeah. 548 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,760 And then being around people that are so negative, I can't do it. 549 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,600 I'll either say you stopped talking about the news or whatever politics or I'm leaving 550 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,600 the room. 551 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,840 I can't be in that negative energy, man. 552 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,280 No, no, it takes too much out of you. 553 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,280 Yeah, it does. 554 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:30,600 No, that's why I prefer to be silent and just listen, you know, absorb. 555 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,440 And then when something pops up, you know, kind of speak your mind, but be careful what 556 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,440 you say, you know. 557 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,440 Oh yeah. 558 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,440 Sure. 559 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,440 Yeah. 560 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,520 Now I wanted to ask when you came back, did you experience anything like I did where I 561 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,760 am now sensitive to energies? 562 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,600 I'm sensitive to certain things. 563 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,280 Have you experienced anything like that? 564 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,280 Oh yeah. 565 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,920 I remember about a year when I drive my car at night and I'd come up to a stop sign or 566 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,520 a stop whatever and they have those lights over the over the top of the cars. 567 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,200 They blow out every time they turn off. 568 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,560 People didn't believe me. 569 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,000 They'd get in the car and I said, get in the car, get in the car. 570 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,860 We come up to a stoplight and boom, the light goes out. 571 00:28:09,860 --> 00:28:16,080 So that and you should go to a conference where there's five or 600 people like us and 572 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,080 nothing works. 573 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,600 The lights go out. 574 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,680 The sound equipment isn't working. 575 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,080 They can't get the projector on. 576 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,160 We've got one guy that just goes from room to room fixing the computers. 577 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,160 Wow. 578 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,080 You know, like tonight you had some problem with the electricity. 579 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,080 The last one I was on, we couldn't get the electricity to work. 580 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,080 We had, we were frantic. 581 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:42,500 We were going live and you know, the one with Kearstie, her whole block went out. 582 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:46,280 She says we've never had, she had to call me back and say, you know, I don't know what 583 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,280 happened. 584 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,440 All the power and the neighbor went out. 585 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,000 Because we had two of us there, I guess, but this happens all the time. 586 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Yeah. 587 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,920 Well, tell me what's your theory on it? 588 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,040 Because my theory on it is I think when we come back, I think like we are given some 589 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:09,280 sort of, I want to say power in a way, but it's like we're given some sort of like extra 590 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,480 consciousness or something that we're given, you know? 591 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,080 So what's your opinion on it? 592 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,760 I feel the same way. 593 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,320 It's like you're kind of a powered surge or something. 594 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,320 Yeah. 595 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,320 Yeah. 596 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,600 And there's other things that come to like knowing what people are kind of thinking. 597 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,840 You sense their moods a lot more. 598 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,840 They, you know, they tell you one thing and you go, no, something wrong with your, your, 599 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,320 Oh my gosh. 600 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,320 That happens all the time. 601 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,320 Yeah. 602 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,320 All the time. 603 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,320 You know, you know, what's funny. 604 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,440 I was asking my, my spirit guys last night in my sleep, I said, I said, how, how can 605 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,880 I get into the energy? 606 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,560 And they said, they said, once you're in the energy, you can't get out. 607 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,560 Oh, cool. 608 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,560 I can't lose it. 609 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:59,800 So with both of your near life experiences, you, you are near death experiences. 610 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:05,400 You became energy and once you become less energy, you, you can't get out. 611 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,400 That's what they told me. 612 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,400 I'm kidding. 613 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,400 You're not. 614 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,120 And I think that's why they wanted me to spread that message. 615 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:17,440 But like I, like I said, though, is that, you know, the energy you put out, if it's 616 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,840 positive or negative, it will come out. 617 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,520 So once you tap into it, you can't get out of it. 618 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,520 Yeah, exactly. 619 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,560 So yeah, you're right. 620 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,560 No, totally. 621 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:33,000 Oh, my dad and people on the other side, my dad died three years ago and he is like here. 622 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Every now and then he'll just flicker the lights no matter where I am. 623 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Just to say he's, he's here. 624 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520 He actually sent me an email. 625 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,520 What? 626 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,520 Yes, it was. 627 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,840 Oh, gosh, it's up on my wall right here. 628 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,840 I'm looking at it. 629 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,840 He died. 630 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,400 And then my mom's got dementia. 631 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:57,600 So I go, I go from here, Washington to California quite often to see her. 632 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:03,160 One time we got in a, in a argument because she, she forgets and my name is Mary Kathleen. 633 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,560 I was named after my grandmother, Mary, which was my dad's mom. 634 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,240 Then my mother couldn't stand her. 635 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,240 All right. 636 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,640 So I said, I'll let you name her Mary if we can put Kathleen after it. 637 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,160 After the song, I'll take you home again, Kathleen. 638 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,300 That's a St. Patrick's Day kind of thing. 639 00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:19,520 And then we'll call her Kathy. 640 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,520 That's the deal. 641 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,560 And I said, okay, so anyway, I'm, I'm visiting. 642 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,560 My sister's there. 643 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,560 She writes me a check, Kathy McDaniel. 644 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,640 I says, Donnie, you got to put it in my legal name, Mary Kathleen. 645 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,080 And my mom says, your name's not Mary. 646 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,040 And I says, yes, it is, mom. 647 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480 You know, dad named, I would never, never name you Mary. 648 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,480 You're not named out. 649 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,360 So I get home and I'm feeling kind of down about that. 650 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,960 I get, you know, you, you check your email. 651 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,520 There's my dad's email address and I open it up and it just says Mary. 652 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,960 Oh, my God. 653 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,200 And you tell me you definitely saved that email. 654 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,200 Oh my gosh. 655 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,360 That is freaky. 656 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,240 That happened to one of my brother's, uh, us Marshall buddies. 657 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:07,280 One of his buddies died and, uh, it was like a couple of weeks later, he got a phone call 658 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:15,080 from his number and he went to answer and it was, yeah, he took a picture of it and 659 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,080 stuff. 660 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,040 I was like, wow, dude, I heard of that happening. 661 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,360 You know, people, well, all of a sudden the number shows up. 662 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Yeah, yeah. 663 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,000 They're energy so they can do anything they want. 664 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,040 That's why he does the lights and he, and plus if my mom and I are talking too long 665 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,680 and he knows I'm getting kind of tired, he hangs up the phone. 666 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,480 And then he did that, he's been doing that for months. 667 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,360 I go past seven 30, the phone goes dead. 668 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,120 Whatever it just goes click. 669 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,120 Real quick, flash your book up, show us your book. 670 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,120 Show me. 671 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,120 Yeah. 672 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Show it up on the screen. 673 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,560 So that's the book you guys need to get. 674 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,020 This will have her whole explanation of everything. 675 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:02,040 You just got a taste of it today. 676 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,280 That's, that's where you need to get it. 677 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:11,360 And it's on Amazon and Barnes and Noble and you can even buy it on the website, right? 678 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,360 Absolutely. 679 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,800 And her website is down below, as you can see going across the screen. 680 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,080 But definitely check out that book because it is an amazing experience just from what 681 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,120 we heard today is absolutely amazing. 682 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,320 But you said you had other books that you wanted to show us too about other near death 683 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,320 experiences. 684 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,560 I've got a friend that wrote a book, how to escape from hell. 685 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:38,720 And he's he interviewed a lot of near death experiences that had the bad stuff and he's 686 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,480 he's gone through their experiences similar to yours. 687 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,160 Most of them are, you know, I mean, one way or the other. 688 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,720 I mean, every, every experience is personal, but scary stuff. 689 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:58,440 And I mean, there's only about four to 15% of the NDS are distressing and we don't come 690 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,720 forward because we don't want to talk about it. 691 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,680 I don't know about you, my mom says, what did you do to go to hell, Kathy, that we didn't 692 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,680 know about? 693 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,560 You know, right now, never mind. 694 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,840 You know, it's messed up is that when I when I went when I had my near death experience, 695 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,400 I died 12 times in the last time I was when I had my dear death experience, I was addicted 696 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,760 to opiates. 697 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,680 So it's so weird that I didn't experience a hell in my near death experience, because 698 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:29,000 you would think that someone who was sinning constantly, unlike yourself, you know, it's 699 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,040 like, why did you experience that? 700 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,560 And I experienced the loving aspect of it. 701 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,560 You're living it on earth. 702 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,560 Yeah, maybe. 703 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,560 Yeah, maybe. 704 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,160 You know, you needed a break, you know, maybe. 705 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,160 Yeah, yeah. 706 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,160 Yeah, we planned it. 707 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Well, when we get up there, it's gonna go, oh, man, why didn't I think of that? 708 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,960 Of course, that's why. 709 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,960 Exactly. 710 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,960 Yeah. 711 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,960 You know, because such good things happen out of those. 712 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,640 If you live long enough, you know, you have a disaster. 713 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,600 And then 10, 15 years later, somebody, this happens to me. 714 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,440 They come up and say, I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't run into you. 715 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,600 You know what I'm you know what I'm feeling. 716 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,040 You know, you you have this empathy that I can't get from anybody else. 717 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:15,560 So the empathy is a very important thing to learn from disasters in your life. 718 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,000 You'll always help somebody else. 719 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,800 Yeah, I always say there's there's light in the darkness. 720 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,360 And if you can't see the light, that's because you are the light. 721 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,800 Ah, like that. 722 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,800 Yeah. 723 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,800 That's nice. 724 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,200 That's the way I think of it. 725 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,200 So. 726 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,200 Yeah. 727 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,200 Well, there's a couple of books. 728 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,120 But what I also come to, you know, I didn't think there was really hell, but somebody 729 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,840 says, well, look, there's positive energy, there's negative energy, energy can't be created. 730 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,840 It can't be destroyed. 731 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,120 Where does it go? 732 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:51,000 Well, David, in his book, says he makes make a word of Egregor. 733 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,000 That's kind of where the the negative energy hangs out in somewhere. 734 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,960 And, you know, in the universe or on the other side and anyone that's really doesn't want 735 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:05,880 to give up that negativity, that sin, whatever you want to call it, they will drift and find 736 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,120 like likes like. 737 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,480 So they'll drift over to that little corner, wherever it is. 738 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,560 And they're always encouraged to raise their vibration to come up. 739 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,440 Help your super angels that'll go down and say, you sure you want to get out of here? 740 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,400 You know, I mean, nobody's ever forgotten. 741 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,160 But if free will, if you want to. 742 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,160 Yeah. 743 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,920 To be in that door, please. 744 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,920 You can do it. 745 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,600 When we were at Montana State Prison, me and John, we went there alone and investigated. 746 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,000 And it was just us, no other people. 747 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,720 And the spirits there were it seemed like it seemed OK. 748 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,720 So the way to describe like not being in your body. 749 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:47,280 No, well, the way to describe not being in your body is basically being pure thought, 750 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,440 in my opinion, because that's basically what it felt like. 751 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,920 And what I what I'm what I'm saying about this is these spirits were stuck in a loop 752 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,920 of depression from their negative thinking about how they were going to be judged by 753 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,960 God if they cross over for their actions. 754 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,580 So they were so terrified to cross over because of that. 755 00:37:07,580 --> 00:37:12,080 And I obviously tried to tell them, like, listen, just God's not like that. 756 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,480 It's not like that at all. 757 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,680 Like this is just something that we read in religion. 758 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,000 It's not true. 759 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,880 And we were able to cross them over. 760 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,360 But think about that, though, if you're if you're pure thought and you get into that 761 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,080 negative mindset, negative thinking of your sins and all your regrets and all this stuff, 762 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,240 you're going to get into a depression loop, which is going to take away that light in 763 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:33,240 you. 764 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:37,040 And as you know, you're going to get farther away. 765 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,520 It's that quantum field. 766 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,800 It's those those those neutrons and photons. 767 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,840 It gets down to the essence of your vibration and your frequency. 768 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,840 That's what you put out. 769 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,840 You get back. 770 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,840 Yeah. 771 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,560 But nobody's lost forever. 772 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,160 I mean, no. 773 00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,080 If you want to get out eventually, you know, God, like you say, God doesn't condemn anybody. 774 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,080 Yeah. 775 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,080 Yeah, yeah. 776 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,080 Absolutely. 777 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,080 Absolutely. 778 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,640 So I wanted to also ask you, too. 779 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,960 So have you had any experiences where you've been able to see, feel or hear spirits since 780 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,960 you've been back? 781 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,920 Because I've had that experience as well. 782 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,960 I like I say with my dad. 783 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,960 Yeah. 784 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,160 I mean, but besides like flickering, have you like felt him in the room and stuff? 785 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,160 Oh, yeah. 786 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,160 Yeah. 787 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,160 Yeah. 788 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,960 And so we just talk, you know, and I like, you know, anytime I lose anything, you know, 789 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,520 it's like, Dad, I gotta be somewhere. 790 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,520 Ten minutes. 791 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,520 Where's my keys? 792 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,360 And I just and then I see it in my mind and I go on in the black coat in the closet. 793 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,000 Now I remember he'll find anything for me. 794 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,680 He's just right there. 795 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,280 You know, we hang out all the time. 796 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,280 It's great. 797 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,280 Yeah. 798 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,560 And it's just me and my dad do the same. 799 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,200 I mean, he constantly comes through the spirit box and he died in 2020. 800 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,320 So I, you know, we me and him were real close and he's constantly coming through. 801 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,840 My new girlfriend got to actually speak to him through the spirit box the other night. 802 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,840 And it was pretty funny. 803 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,240 She was like, wow, I can't believe your dad actually came through the spirit box. 804 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,400 And I'm like, yeah, I said, that's my father. 805 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,400 Go anywhere he wants. 806 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,400 Yeah. 807 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,400 He's a big soul. 808 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:16,600 So, you know, but he said some things through mind for you. 809 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,800 How do you get a spirit box? 810 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,800 Amazon? 811 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,800 You can go to through Amazon. 812 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,000 It's called the PSB dash seven. 813 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,240 He asked me dash seven. 814 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,240 Yeah. 815 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,040 Looks like this. 816 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,040 Yeah. 817 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,040 It looks just like that. 818 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,760 Oh, I want one. 819 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,760 Yeah. 820 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,880 They're amazing devices. 821 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,800 I'm telling you with your with your energy, you'll be able to connect real easily. 822 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,280 So obviously, always protect yourself, obviously, before doing it by saying a prayer and whatnot. 823 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,840 And, you know, calling out all bad spirits to stay away and all that kind of stuff. 824 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,680 But as long as you protect yourself, it's an amazing device. 825 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,280 And I'm telling you, you're going to want to check it out for sure. 826 00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,280 Oh, yeah. 827 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,280 OK. 828 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,280 Well, prayers. 829 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,280 All right. 830 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,280 Making notes here. 831 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,280 Awesome. 832 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,280 Well, it's so nice to meet you guys. 833 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,280 I'm telling you. 834 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,320 It was nice to meet you as well. 835 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,220 And thank you so much for coming on. 836 00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:15,900 If you could, please shout out again where everyone can get your book and where everyone 837 00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:20,440 can see you on your next podcast and all that. 838 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,440 That's a lot. 839 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,400 There are lots of YouTube's and stuff out there already, about 100 and something of 840 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,400 them. 841 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,040 So just use my name. 842 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:35,440 And then the website is the same name as the book, Misfit in Hell to Heaven, expat.com. 843 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,800 And then if you get on there, there's a place if you want to ask me a question or stuff, 844 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,000 it'll go right to me. 845 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,640 And then the book is Anywhere You Buy Books. 846 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,600 And I'd love to talk to people. 847 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,840 I've met people from all over and some people that like live two blocks away. 848 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,800 I was in Costco and some lady comes. 849 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,920 I got my cart and I'm leaving and she comes running out of the and I thought, oh, my God, 850 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:01,080 she's going to steal my purse. 851 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,080 So she came running up. 852 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,320 She goes, you're somebody I know. 853 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,320 And I said, I am. 854 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,320 She says, you're famous. 855 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,320 I know you're famous. 856 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,320 And I thought, famous me? 857 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,320 And she's like, oh, my God, I saw your podcast. 858 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,320 And she's jumping up and down. 859 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,320 I said, she's she's she's she's she's. 860 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 861 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,320 Hey, but isn't that the best feeling though? 862 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,320 She was just so happy. 863 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,320 You know, I'm so glad I met you. 864 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,320 You're so cute. 865 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:32,440 I had I went to an emergency like one of those walk in emergency places and I was getting 866 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,520 something checked and the lady saw my hat and she saw talking with the source on the 867 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,480 hat and she goes, oh, my God. 868 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,400 She goes, wait, you know, talking with the source. 869 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,200 I said, I'm the host of it. 870 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000 And she's like, oh, my God, I listen to your podcast every day. 871 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,000 And she's a doctor. 872 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,040 And I'm like, oh, I'm like, I'm like, yes, sugar, mama. 873 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,040 Yes. 874 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,760 No, no, just joking. 875 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,360 But yeah, no, but I was like, I was shocked because it was in my town and I'm like, how 876 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,680 did you find me? 877 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:05,440 You know, so I was driving on the highway and there was a dump truck behind me. 878 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:11,440 All of a sudden I get a message on on Instagram of all places, the place I never post thing 879 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,960 because I always forget about it. 880 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,240 And he says, you're JK 47. 881 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,240 I'm right behind you. 882 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:24,200 I was like, oh, thank you. 883 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,520 I love you, girl. 884 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,440 But Kathy, thank you so much for coming on. 885 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,840 We really, truly appreciate it. 886 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,880 And I want to definitely have you on again soon. 887 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,920 So I would love to have you on. 888 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,160 We'll definitely schedule it. 889 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,880 And I have all your information. 890 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,440 But thank you so much for coming on. 891 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,680 I really appreciate you. 892 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,800 Yeah, we had I just had a blast. 893 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,800 Really awesome. 894 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,360 Yeah, I want to review it. 895 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,080 I want to see that light anomaly. 896 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,800 I know I got to see the light. 897 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,920 That's so we're going to we're going to clip that. 898 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,920 Okay. 899 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,920 Thanks. 900 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,920 And send me a link. 901 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,920 I will. 902 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,920 Okay. 903 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,920 All right. 904 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,360 Good seeing you, Kathy. 905 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,360 Take care. 906 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,360 Take care. 907 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,360 You too. 908 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,480 Wow, man. 909 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,960 Let's get back to the regular. 910 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,960 Yep. 911 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,960 And yeah, man. 912 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,440 So we had an amazing show, dude. 913 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,400 I tell you what, she is an amazing person and her near death. 914 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,200 Her near the death experience story. 915 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,520 She only shared a real little bit with us because you have to get the book. 916 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,840 You have to read it. 917 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,920 It's if it's not made into a movie, I'm going to be very shocked because the stuff that 918 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,160 she experienced in it is wild. 919 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,280 I mean, I read a little bit about it and I tell you, it's an awesome story and it's an 920 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,280 awesome experience. 921 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,080 Yeah, I agree, man. 922 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,080 She's amazing person. 923 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,080 I can't. 924 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,200 That was amazing episode. 925 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,200 I love today. 926 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,200 Today was a great day. 927 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,520 Definitely, man. 928 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,160 Well, guys, thank you so much for tuning in talking with the source. 929 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:55,880 You could find us and follow us on the go on all your favorite podcast listening platforms 930 00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,960 from Apple podcast, the Google podcast, the Pandora to I Heart Radio, you name it, Spotify, 931 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,800 all those and tons more. 932 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:11,360 And also share this out if you could and head over to talking with the source on Facebook 933 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:17,560 to follow us there for all news, messages, updates, shorts and as well on TikTok for 934 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,640 all the shorts to these 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here at my other host, Jonathan Keyworth of JK 47 paranormal investigations. 946 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,800 Please shout out your stuff, brother, and let's get out of here. 947 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,140 Yeah, man. 948 00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:13,920 So in about 10 minutes, I'm going to be on EPP. 949 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,200 You can catch them on Twitch. 950 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,840 Just search up geeks paranormal. 951 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,600 I'm going to be talking with Shaw Wooten about my stuff. 952 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:30,960 Also every Tuesday at 2 p.m. Eastern, 12 p.m. Mountain time. 953 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,880 I do live spirit box sessions. 954 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,920 I've gotten crazy stuff. 955 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,040 And this week I'm going to be trying to reach Nikola Tesla. 956 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,040 Awesome. 957 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,560 It's going to be an awesome show. 958 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,520 So thank you so much, Chris, for checking in. 959 00:45:46,520 --> 00:46:12,120 But until next time, we are talking with the source later.