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What's going on everybody?

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AJ Capasso here, host of Talking With The Source.

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I'm here with my good friend and best friend and brother, Jonathan Keyworth of JK 47 Paranormal Investigations.

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How have you been, my friend?

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I've been good, dude.

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You know, just working on the cases and stuff.

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I actually just talked with Discovery Channel.

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I think it's Arrow Media is their production company, but they're in the UK and they've done a lot of crime documentaries.

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And it was cool to talk to them.

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You know, they were they were interested about a case I worked with the Jamison family.

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So I was talking to them, telling them what I saw and to check my stuff out.

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So we'll see where it goes.

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That is awesome, man.

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One thing I want to do before I bring up for our guests is I want to talk about last week real quick and what happened.

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So for everyone that knows, last week I was not myself.

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I got off of the stream and I literally I went to the hospital.

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I did not waste any time.

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I ended up having my medication built up in my system a little too much, I guess.

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I don't know.

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I take a certain medicine that does that, I guess, which my doctor put me on too high of a dose, which I didn't know.

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I guess I was good.

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I tell you what, man, you know, it's funny is that after I signed off this, I didn't remember signing off.

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So when I came back, actually the house, the computer, everything was still set up and the live stream was still set up.

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Everyone was gone, obviously, but the live stream was still set up.

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And I didn't remember even signing off the thing.

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And I'm glad that I did, because I tell you, man, like the level that it was at, the doctor was like, dude, like if we didn't get you down, like you could have died.

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Like there was no like you didn't come to the hospital, you would have been screwed.

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So I was happy that that happened.

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But I was happy that everything was OK.

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But real quick, I want to bring forward a lot better.

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I'm telling you, man, I feel a lot better, dude.

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I tell you what, for a couple of days, though, you know, even my friend, she was like, you know, she's like, you're so tired.

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I'm like, yeah, I don't know what the hell is going on like days after it.

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It was like that. It affected me for a couple of days.

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But, dude, I tell you what, I tell you what, Nicole, I honestly I wish I could be.

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But those days are far, far beyond me.

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I wish I could be though.

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Let me tell you, especially with all the stress that's going on.

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But anyway, on a better note, we have an amazing guest today, actually guests today, because we have a special thing, a special treat where we have every single one.

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One of the Abel's with us right now, and they're going to discuss the Enfield Demon House with us.

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They also have paperwork from some very renowned people that they're going to share with us what the evidence that they got without having any background, any knowledge of this place.

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And they wanted to go in and see what they got.

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And they gave him a report and he has given us a treat to share some of this information.

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So I'm going to bring them forward.

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Let me bring forward Jay, Elka and Mackenzie.

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Hey guys, what's up?

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That's good to be on.

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Hey, how's it going? Welcome.

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Hey, how are you guys?

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Hey, what's up?

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So tell us a little bit about yourselves, how you end up buying this crazy house, man.

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Like, what were you doing before it?

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Just tell us a little bit about the beginning.

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Alright, so I guess a long, long time ago in a galaxy far away.

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No. Yeah, yeah.

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But the, well, what happened was we were looking for a house. We started looking at four houses in 2004.

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And we, we noticed that the real estate market was going sky high.

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Houses that were like 50,000 are now going for 100, 200, 300, 400, 500 thousand dollars.

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So we, we were getting turned off by the market.

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So where I was working, I was, I was running a high rise building in downtown Springfield and one of my jobs, I had to interface between everybody.

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And my job was to keep everybody happy, you know.

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And so as I was talking with a manager who was running the building, and I just said, hey, I said, man, I said, I can't afford a house.

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I said, as much money as we're looking at, I said, they're going higher.

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And he said, talk to my husband. He's liquidating a bunch of property. He wants to start up a car dealership.

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He wants to compete against the big families in Springfield. Talk to him.

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So at the time, Elka was, she was pregnant with the twins.

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And Elka wanted to have her own house. She wanted to help make a nest so she can bring the babies in, have a place that they can grow up because she was from Frankfurt, Germany.

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We looked at the house, the house was in disarray. It needed a lot of work. It was run down.

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But John gave us the keys. He goes, here's the keys, guys. Come back, you know, check out as many times as you want.

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So we came back two or three times and I'm like, oh my God.

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So on the second time, John met us here. Make a long story short. He met us here and said, he's sweet in the deal.

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He said, look it, guys. He goes, I know the place looks run down. It's awful shape.

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But he goes, here's the thing. I put all the big ticket items in. I put bringing a roof, bringing electrical service, bringing new windows, bringing new boilers.

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He goes, all the all the big ticket items are done. Jay, he goes, you work in construction. You're a jack of all trades.

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He goes, you can make a phone call and this place would be like a dream home.

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So I was like, I don't know. So Elka's like, we don't have another home. So any of them, I'll make a long story short.

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We end up buying it. But on the third time we came to look at it, we met in two separate vehicles.

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And now you can say this was the first paranormal attack we ever had.

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And nobody realized it because we didn't believe in a paranormal at the time.

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It was on the third time we came. I met her. I drove right from work.

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She met here and she turned around. And this is how paranormal happens.

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What you guys know is not when you not when you get a direct camera focus on it, not like you got a derine site on it.

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It happens when you turn your back. As soon as I said, I'll meet you.

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And she said, oh, darn it. I got to check the door, make sure the door's locked because I don't want to leave John's house unlocked.

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So she goes back to check the door. I go out to my vehicle and I hear this god awful scream.

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Jay, help me. And I look and her arms go flying behind her back. And now with my training, I realize, you know what?

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Somebody pushed her because when you fall, I can trip you all day long. Your hands going to go forward.

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That's a natural defense mechanism. But when somebody comes from behind you, you're going to get taken by surprise and your arms going to be behind your back.

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Well, that's what happened. She started stumbling down the stairs and I'm running over to buy got one eye scanning the house, looking for like any type of intruder.

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I'm trying to reach to her to save her and the babies. And at that same time, it was like a guardian angel came and appeared and she rolled on her shoulder.

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And that's what saved herself and the babies. And we rushed up to the hospital and the babies were safe and sound.

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And the rest is history. I'll let Alka talk about what happened after that. It was that was the first thing.

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If we look back, we should have was a warning sign not to buy the house. But we we weren't looking for a parent.

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Oh, I never wanted the house. Yeah.

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We did. You missed that point. Well, hold on. I want to ask one question because one of our viewers did say this and I didn't actually mention this in the beginning and I should have.

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A lot of people get Enfield Demon House kind of mixed up with the UK version of what happened in Enfield.

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So I want to make this very clear. This is Enfield, Connecticut, in the USA, exactly where I live in Connecticut.

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And this is an amazing place. But I wanted to let our viewer, Stevie Lynn, know because she asked Connecticut or UK.

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So I wanted to make that clear. I forgot to say that in the beginning. But please, Alka, finish what you're saying.

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So you didn't want this house is what you're about to say. No. First time the house and I'm going like that gives me the creepy.

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I don't like it. And he said, well, we need a place to live, you know, and I can make this all nice and happy.

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Well, well, now, 17 years later and still working on the house. It's like the Winchester House and never.

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Yeah. You talked me into it. So, yeah.

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So we talk. Yeah. So we got in. And again, like I said, things kept going bad. I had I had like 20 guys set up to help us move in.

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And you know how those guys are. We're Superman. We should have sought to do it by the day where we had to sign the papers.

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I'm going to back up over. Yeah. Hand over the keys.

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The broker, the banker, I don't know, actually, the lawyer said, well, you have to pay upfront one year of.

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So I'm kind of like, yes, I don't have it.

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I don't have it. And of course, John, who wanted to get really bad with the house said, I don't have a problem.

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I'm going to pay you that one year ahead. He paid for one year house insurance.

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Boom. Twelve hundred bucks right on the table. He says this is my house.

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And I'm like, yeah, they're showing off. There's something off here. Yeah.

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Whooping the people I deal with, you know, in those days when somebody throws up money like this, you know, there's a catch.

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There's something always the way out. He says to his lawyer, I looked at him and said, great job, Jay.

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He said to him, well, I'm so happy I got rid of this house.

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His last words as they're walking down the hall, he looked at his attorney goes, thank God I got rid of the house.

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I was like, what? We didn't know. I'm thinking, well, maybe there's something we don't know that is going to cause us a lot of financial hardships and something.

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But I'm scanning fast. I'm like, well, you got a new boiler, new electrical. Everything's all set.

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What besides sheetrock painting some construct what can be that bad that you thank God that you got rid of that house?

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Yes. Let's talk about that. So you got the sale. You're ready to move in. Everything's looking good. You're happy.

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When did it start? Like how quickly did you know that there was something amiss?

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It took us. Well, a lot, like I said, there was like the it was like almost like the Indian beating of all the wardrobes.

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Like I said, we had like 20 people ready to help us move. I had a big truck. I had people from all walks of life ready to help us.

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I had everything set up on my mind. I was unpacked each room. So when we unloaded it, in my theory, I was going to be all set.

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So what happened was that day we were supposed to move, we had torrential rains and we couldn't move. It rained so bad.

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I got phone calls saying, Jay, you're crazy, but we can't move. They said there's no way someone's going to get hurt.

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Someone's going to fall. So I said, OK, we're going to postpone it. So then when I do decide to move, my uncle died.

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My father's brother died. I'm sorry for that. Sorry. It was all and I and I I was too pumped up with the house to think about it because we had to move from I was living.

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I was renting a house off my dad. So I couldn't I had to leave. So I couldn't go to my uncle's funeral.

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And and then everything started going wrong. People were on duty. Some were cops. They're like, hey, sorry, we got to work a shift.

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We can't come in. This guy was like, OK, so now we end up with a with a small amount of people.

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So I get thrown into a basement and they're just throwing boxes at me. So we had kitchen stuff.

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We still cannot find a box of milk and cheese and dairy products that went missing 20 years ago almost.

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So, yeah, everything got screwed up. So we got through that. Everything was all set.

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But prior to that, there was other things like we were like before I came in.

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I had a I had a sand and polyurethane floors. And now on our side, my brother was an ex-marine.

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He was for eight years and some of my background and things like that.

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So as I'm standing on the floor, I say, Cliff, and it's like, well, I said, look at the floor, just don't say it.

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I said, it looks like somebody bled out. I said, it looked like someone got shot and bled out on the floor.

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And there was a perfect outline of a human figure that looked like they were lying there for some quite a time.

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And he said, don't don't go there because I know it looks exactly like what you saw.

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So we tried sanding it up over and over and over.

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Sanders would not come out. So we we had a polyurethane.

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Got it sealed and triple coated. And then little things would happen. We'd have radios that we turning on and the vans would change.

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And my friend Al, he's like, he goes, don't don't pay any mind to it.

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He goes, it's an old house. So we got it basically ready to live.

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And we and in my mind, I said, you know what? It's an old house. 70 71.

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That's what it says on the title. Old House in a Creek. The wind's going to blow.

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We're still standing. We're all right. So we move in and find eventually.

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I'll let Alka tell a story. We moved in in November. We bought the house in September.

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Yeah, we moved in in November. And yeah, we got beginning of November.

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We moved in and I don't know. We all I got actually taken out of my job because I had complications.

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I had to be bedridden. So I was home first. Weird stuff happened.

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So but I didn't say anything because I mean, I told him that there's a black dog walking through the hallway.

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And he said, what? So he was kind of like more thinking like I hallucinating and I'm kind of like, OK, so after that, I didn't do anything anymore.

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I'm kind of like, OK, no, no. But so weird stuff happened.

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The dogs were going off and there was nobody there and he was still working and the baby came.

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The babies came earlier. They came in December. And in January, actually, we the kids had to stay for weeks in NICU.

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And so when we were visiting and he said, let's go out for breakfast.

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And that's where we're sitting at the table. And he said, you know what? I don't know.

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I have to talk about it. And I'm kind of like, well, what? And he said, well, I don't know.

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I was home. You were home. You were in the hospital for quite a while and I was home alone.

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And I understand now what you're saying, that weird stuff is happening.

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And I don't know if there's something there because I mean, we going back 17 years.

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So at this point, 2007, so a lot of people didn't really talk.

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I mean, Taps came out, we watched the show and I'm like, oh, that's nice.

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But never paid any attention that really something exists like that. Yeah.

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He kind of like, OK, so where are we going to go for that?

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So he said, OK, something is wrong.

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How about we're going to get a priest in and get the house blessed because there were no paranormal groups.

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So we can say, OK, let's let's let's call them and let's take care of it.

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So what happened? OK, so yeah, that's what is actually our next step.

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We called in a priest to get the house blessed.

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And that's where things went really wrong because we started talking about how things were happening.

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Now, the very first paranormal thing I had happened was when Elka, when the babies were first born.

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When you asked me what happened? Well, I came home and soon as I came home, the house felt like it was energized.

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It felt like it felt like somebody just plugged us into a live socket.

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I know that. Isn't that weird?

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Like that how that energy just shifts it like going into these locations that that me and AJ go to you just feel it.

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And it's so weird. Yeah.

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Alive. So I walked in. The dogs were all nervous and it takes a lot to scare me.

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People know me. You know, I've always been fearless.

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And I will I would I used to be the type of guy who would walk down the streets at nighttime and hold your mask right by myself.

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And nobody would bother me. That's that's so it takes a lot to scare me.

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So I walked into how to energize the dogs are bouncing off the walls.

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Now, first time in my life, I'm scared.

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I turn on all the lights that we had in the house.

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I go upstairs and the dogs are bouncing off the wall.

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What is going on here? So I'm saying myself, you know what?

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It's separation anxiety. My wife just had babies. I'm excited. I can't sleep.

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First time I've been alone in years. That's what it is.

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It's a separation anxiety. So I turn on one of those DIY networks.

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I'm laying in bed where my my bed is facing.

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I'm looking where the old staircase was going to the attic.

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So around three fifteen three in the morning, I see this beam of light shooting on the stairs.

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So I'm thinking a car is going by somehow and it's reflecting the light.

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It's you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's later. Same thing. Another one goes down.

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So I get up. I go to my staircase. I said, hey, listen, if anybody's up there,

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you got to leave the same way you came in. I bought this house.

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It's not vacant no more. You got to leave. Don't make me come up the stairs.

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And I'm like, oh, I'm talking to myself. So I didn't sleep.

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I ran to the hospital to see my newborn babies and my wife.

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And I didn't tell her about that.

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But it was in my mind later on because thank God I didn't go up because I probably would have ran out of the house.

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And whenever I came back, she set me up when she came home,

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she set me up to the attic to go see if we can find something.

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And while I'm up there, you know how your mind is.

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You start thinking, where do the lights come from?

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I'm thinking myself, well, a car's come like this.

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But then I looked. Both the windows were they had car bar boxes.

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There's no way any outside light or anything could come and reflect through.

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That's what I want to do with it. Like reflection, you know?

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Right. Right. Yeah.

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So I said, so now I'm thinking, OK, this is really weird.

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So after we made that connection, there's something here.

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I said, well, you know, like the movies, you call on a priest, he comes up, blesses it, chases away the things.

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That's not how it works in real life.

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I called up the first priest and I said I asked him to come over to do a house blessing, you know?

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So he's walking over from one of the local churches and I meet him on the road and I said, hey, father, I said, you know what?

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There might be something in the house.

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He stopped. He's like, well, a squirrel, a chipmunk, a bird.

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I said, well, my wife thinks, you know, there's something in the house.

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I blame it on my wife. So if anybody goes crazy, it's not right.

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Yeah. Yeah. My wife. Oh, that's messed up.

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And he's like, I know I think my toes broken this morning.

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You guys. Yeah, you're done. You're done now. That's it.

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So yeah. So all of a sudden I said, you know, she thinks he goes, well, what? Spit it out.

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I'm like, you know, father, right.

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A ghost. He goes, ghost. He goes, listen, there's no such thing as ghosts or demons.

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He goes, I'll prove it. So he says he comes in a house.

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He meets Elka. He has a big thing of holy water. Right.

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And he's got smoke and he's, oh, but I'm not doing none. He's going around and he says, see nothing here.

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Jay, he goes up to the everywhere on our side of the house.

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So, but father, you've got to go next door. And he goes, you know, that's right. It's a duplex.

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So he comes next door and I had table saw set up because I love this smell of fresh construction.

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So he goes and he goes down and he blesses everything and he goes up the stairs and he said, CJ, nothing's wrong.

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I told you it's all made up. So father, you've got to go up to the attic.

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Now, at the time, the attics were sealed off in a basement sealed off on this side because we live next door.

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So what happened is he goes opens up the attic door.

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Now, here's the weird part. I don't tell people on the attic door. They had a deadbolt. They had a latch.

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Everything. They had a whole series of locks like you're keeping out the boogeyman.

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Like, you know, like this is like New York City and you've got to go up to the attic.

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So what are they trying to keep out? So he opened the door.

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He takes three steps up, boom, boom, and he freezes.

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It's like he starts throwing holy water and he yells behind me. He backs down and he takes one more step up.

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He's staring up the stairs. Here's a guy that says it's all hotty when there's no such thing.

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He's staring up the stairs. He backs down. He never turns once. He never turns his back on a staircase.

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He comes out. He backs out. He slams the door and like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. He locks it.

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Then he looks at me. He runs. I mean, here's a priest. He runs out of the master bedroom down the hallway.

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I'm like, holy crisis. Old guy can run. So I'm trying to chase him behind him, right?

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And he's running. He gets one foot outside the house, one foot inside. He looks at me. He goes, his face is like all sweaty.

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And like he just saw the devil himself. He said, ignore it. It will go away.

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Boom. He was gone. Ignore it. Ignore it. It will go away. That was the best advice that the priest could have gave you.

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I tell you, man, that's shocking. That is really shocking, you know, because people would totally think that it would be totally the opposite.

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But I'm so happy that you said this because this is real life. This is what really happens.

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You know, a lot of priests are afraid. I had another priest.

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A priest one time I went over to him because after my brother died, that's a whole other story.

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I go over to see the guy and he saw him come in my office, sit down. We're talking.

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All of a sudden he jumps up. He goes, you're that guy. I'm like, uh oh, right.

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I was like, the sins of your past are catching up. I think I saw what happened. Maybe he was, he knew me for 20 years ago and I was a crazy guy, right?

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So he's like, you're the guy. He looks at his desk. He goes, you're the guy from the newspapers.

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He said, Jay, he says, don't ever ask me to come out to your house for a blessing, for anything.

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He says, I'm scared of this shit. I'm scared of this. He goes, he says, let me tell you a story.

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He goes, a couple of years ago, he goes, I got called to a house. He goes, by a man.

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And he asked me to come in the house. He goes, it was the middle of summertime, no air conditioning, no nothing.

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He said the house was empty. He said he wanted me to a house blessing.

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He goes, I'm walking down the hallway and going through my rituals and Jay, something ice cold, went right through me, went right through my soul and out.

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He said, I turned around and I asked him, I said, and he said, what happened here?

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He goes, my wife was murdered by somebody. And he goes, I want to get rid of the B-I-T-C-H out of here.

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And he's like, what? And so the guy thought his wife, spirit was in the house.

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So he wanted to get rid of her once and for all. I guess they didn't have a great marriage, right?

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I guess, right. Yeah. And he's going to get rid of her for once and for all for whatever reason.

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Maybe she knew too much. Right. I don't know. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he's like having him in his sleep.

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So it's like, don't ever call me your house. He goes, please. He goes, I know your wife. I know your kids, but I don't want to come out to your house.

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And he goes, if you call me, I have to respond. He goes, I'm a priest. I'm like, oh, really?

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I got some dirt on you, Father. But anyhow, you know, and that was it. So that was the early days.

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And then it ramped up. And like Elka said, with the black dogs, toys, I'll let her go ahead.

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Elka, talk about the about that first Easter when that scratching at the door and things.

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Yeah, we actually went out with friends for a brunch. And when we came home, we were getting the kids ready for bed.

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And all of a sudden, all kind of like everything, the energy, kind of the kids.

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And the dogs went wild and toys were going off where was no reason for it either.

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And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Not to stop. I just have one question.

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Now, this was happening in your place, not in the place that was what it actually was.

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Right. This was happening where you guys stay now. Correct. Like in the other part of the duplex.

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So you were experiencing stuff in your own home and it's coming from this area.

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So it's not bound in that area. Technically, it's bound by the whole house.

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It was a single family house. So they mostly believe somewhere in the 1860s to accommodate one of the guys that lived there for his daughter that came from Scotland.

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So we think they had a lot of money. They did a master renovation and they split the house right in half. So that's.

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Yeah. Yeah. And whatever is I mean, whatever was in the past here, whatever is still is left.

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They don't see it as like kind of like they're going. I mean, I don't have that ability, but my girls have they seen they see stuff.

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So they always tell me they're going to go right through. They don't have about they don't see they don't see a wall. One house.

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They don't matter. And I'm pretty sure kind of like because the side of nobody's here, they'll go over here.

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I'm pretty sure they'd be here because it's nice and quiet instead of having a full house with teenagers and dogs.

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I mean, I noticed that sometimes I mean, when I work over here alone making t-shirts and everything, I remember I was upstairs and the activity was so much.

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I think it was their time. So I decided, you know, to wrap up. Yeah, I think they let you sometimes know to.

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Hey, it's time now, please. Yeah. To go on your side.

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Hey, well, you know, go to your side.

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Well, it's funny that you say that. It's funny that you say that because I actually had to do that in my home.

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I had to actually tell the spirits at one point because I was doing a lot of communication in the home and they would actually like make the bed shake.

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And like that would be like my sign, like, oh, it's time to come outside and do a session in your spot where you normally do it in the garage.

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So I got to a point where I had to let them know, like, listen, this is my spot. I'm coming here to sleep.

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Please, I am not looking to communicate right now. I will come and communicate later on at this time.

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And they would respect it, believe it or not. But, you know, in your case, it didn't seem like they respected it at all.

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Whatever this thing was. I mean, for me, it took a while to learn, actually, because the adding before she finished it into bedrooms.

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This was more like a storage place where we had stuff. And always when I went up there and I didn't get the signs, but I got the signs with scratches.

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I had like arm scratches and neck. And so before we go to because the way it is now, when we talk about spirits, they're mostly human.

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But when we're talking about what we're talking about back then, you know, kind of weird entity, we don't know what it was and we're going to get that and how Lorraine Warner.

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This is the house that she refused to come out to. To the day she died, she refused to come out.

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She was called in by Joe Franks and Orlando Ferrente. They begged her to come out and all the alka finish. But this is the house that changed.

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We can move forward. I mean, if you want to tell the whole thing.

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No, I don't want to tell them. I want to let people know. So when people come in here now, this entity, we fought with a very, a very, a very ensis because it was in the early days.

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It was a battle for souls. We had to hear what we were up against. It was not like things were like all happy.

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This thing was vicious and I imagine chewed up a dozen paranormal teams in the beginning.

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We went through almost a dozen priests. We went through famous bishops.

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This thing had no respect for anybody. And that's kind of like to at the beginning because everyone saw that on TV starting all of these paranormal groups.

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So all these paranormal groups got created too. But when they came out, I mean, when they got messed with it and then all of a sudden, oh yeah, are we going to be in touch?

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And then you didn't hear anything anymore because that was OK. You found something, but none of them were really experienced.

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Or what are you going to do with it? I mean, it's nice. I know that today is something in my house, but what are you going to do about it?

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And we went through a lot of paranormal teams and kind of like, oh yeah, we're going to talk next week. And then you never heard back from them again.

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That became our journey in finding. We kept stepping up and looking for more specialized things because one of the groups came over.

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There were two college police officers. There were a couple other people and they came up with a whole team with sensitive everything.

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At the time, my sister was alive and they split up. The guys kind of walked towards me in a dining room and the girls went with Elka and my sister.

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And simultaneously, they're like, look at this. Come here. Look at this. They said, look at this.

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Well, when they went in the back, we had a giant banana plant that was like five feet tall and it had a huge thing.

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Now, my sister and four other girls, they watch this thing slide six to eight more in from. They never seen this before.

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While we were in the dining room, I had this party like it was like a bird cage, but it was a candle thing.

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And when you walk, it would move like this because of the vibrations. But they're watching this thing like this, like this.

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Like somebody's taking it. Oh, my God. Like and then within a half hour, like we have enough evidence, guys will be back in contact with you.

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Never again. So we ended up getting another team. And so finally they were chewing up teams and then started getting in their heads.

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We didn't realize it started to mess with their minds and started breaking up their teams. A couple of teams end up getting a divorce.

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They were husband and wives. Other teams would fight and they were things would disappear.

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I mean, evidence would get wild. It was messing with them. And the same answer over again, we'll be in contact.

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We'll be in touch. And then finally, the team says, listen, Jay Elka, we only do this for fun. We don't. This is not a real business.

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We have real jobs. They said we don't. We never encountered signs before. So as we're doing that, the phone calls went out to a group called CPRS.

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Really great people. Joe Frates, Orlando Ferrente, they came up and Joe had sent Orlando in and in beginning with his team.

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And Joe went back and he said, he said, Joe, this is a real deal. He goes, we witnessed levitation. We got scratched.

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We got thrown against the walls. And Joe's like, you know, and every time Joe wanted to come out, something would happen to his mom.

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And he had to stop and he had to go up to Maine. So finally, when he does come out, right, you're waiting for this big climax.

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Nothing happened. It was silence. Orlando's like, God, Joe, I'm telling you, this is a really weird house.

381
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He goes, this is strange. He goes, now they've been a paranormal group since 1995 and beyond that, which I didn't realize is that they worked with Ed and Lorraine Warner since the 80s.

382
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I was one of their chief investigators. I didn't read it normally. I stayed at the land company. I'll set my hands. Anyhow.

383
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Right old hands. We're looking for them for answers. So now Joe comes back and when Joe comes back, he brings in an army of people. He brings in a psychic medium.

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He brings in our ordained minister. He brings a whole entire team in because now he's going to, he wants to know what's going on.

385
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So in the baby's room, they had the ordained minister watching over the babies. It was a small room we did.

386
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They had a camera woman standing at the edge of the doorway. They figured they had all their bases covered. So if anything came in, the kids were the first line of defense. They were to protect them.

387
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So this woman, I want to mention her name because a lot of these people have went, left the field since then because of my house.

388
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So what happened was Joe was downstairs. He has the psychic medium and he starts channeling. Now he starts going in to like a Scottish Irish language pretending as a woman.

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And I'm like, come on. You're talking to me. I said, if anybody who went to a drama school can pretend to be a woman or a guy, right? Especially nowadays.

390
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Anything can happen. All of a sudden, Joe was trying to get this thing to come out. All of a sudden the guy is mumbling something. Orlando has headphones on and says, hey, Joe, they're saying there's many of us here.

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And Joe was like, okay, whatever. And Joe, so then Orlando makes the most fatal mistake, which he regretted to this day. He got so mad at whatever the entities were telling him on the headphones.

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He told the entities, leave Elka and the babies alone. If you want to mess with somebody, mess with him. So he challenged his entity to take him on. And after he did that, he goes, I fucked up.

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He goes, we don't know what this thing is. He goes, Orlando says, I hope nothing's going to happen. Joe's like, oh my God. So as that's happening, the medium was left to go on autopilot. Now the guy, now you can fake a lot of things, but this is really weird.

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The guy's biting his arm so bad that he's drawing blood. I said, did this guy have no pain tolerance, right? Or he's biting and they took four guys, four big guys to come up, grab his arms, try and pull off him.

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So now at this point, Joe's like, do something. He goes, at the time, he goes, I'm tired of it. He goes, when I come up, nothing happens. He goes, now I'm here. He goes, what is your name? Tell me who you are.

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And he goes, you're not impressing me. And, oh, don't answer that. That's Fort Lauderdale Timeshare. So, it's that time of year now we get everybody calling us.

397
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Oh yeah, me too. It's crazy. So now what happens is Joe finally says, do something. He goes, my five year old son can blow out a candle. He goes, you can move it. He goes, you're scaring all these people. He goes, but you're not impressing me.

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He goes, as he goes to raise his hands, go do something. You hear this, wham, smash, right? And you hear this blood-thirsty scream. Joe, Orlando, someone help me, please. So I go running up there like a first responder. I want to see what's going on, right?

399
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I see this grown woman, and I'm only going to mention her weight for a reason. She was about 235 pounds. She was about five feet tall, right? She was on the ground. Her shoulder, I'm surprised. And later on, I found, thank God, she hit the door frame.

400
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She got picked up by six or eight feet, picked up and thrown down the hallway. And thank God, she hit her shoulder on the door, because if she didn't, she wouldn't hit the wall and roll down the stairs and she probably would have been dead.

401
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Oh my God. Yeah, she had this really expensive camera blown all the way across into her room.

402
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I looked at our damn minister. He's standing on his tippy toes against the wall. His eyes are bugged out. And they're like, what happened? He says one minute, he goes, she's standing there. He goes, next minute, I see her picked up and thrown.

403
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Like somebody, like she was a rag doll thrown against the wall. Bam.

404
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You know, man, it makes me want to know what this entity was because we deal with human spirits, right? But then these things, I'm wondering if they're interdimensional or if they really are just a negative demonic type spirit that we all talk about.

405
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But in my, in my opinion, I just don't see it that way for some reason, because the power that you're describing doesn't describe to me as a demonic case that I've encountered. I mean, I've encountered, you know, an exorcism too that was serious. But what you're encountering is the power to pick somebody up that's that big to throw them down a hallway and then throw the camera opposite.

406
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I mean, to really impress somebody after they had just asked for it. That seems to me like something more interdimensional. You know what I'm saying? Like that's something so scary that it's like, I couldn't imagine being you guys in that situation.

407
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And that's, and that's where things get, we're like, we're not. So we're looking up in the early days is like, they're, you're supposed to save us. You guys are the paranormal. You guys supposed to come in. This is what you guys do. You fight the bad guys like cops and robbers, right? You're going to fight the bad guys.

408
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Right. So, yeah, well, and it goes, you got to make that phone call. And it was, I know. And we're like, well, what phone call? They had Lorraine on standby. So they go down and they call Lorraine and she's like, hi guys, what's going on? And they said, well, Lorraine, we have, this is the real deal. They said, we haven't encountered something like this in years. She's, well, what's going on? She said, we witnessed levitation. We witnessed biting scratches, you name it.

409
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Has it happened here? And Lorraine was smart. And that's why I would say she was a tough cookie. She said, you're leaving something out. Right. She goes, you're not telling me the whole thing. Orlando goes, I remember this. Like it was like yesterday. That's how I remember everything. She goes, he goes, you got to tell her and the Dawkins. So anyhow, so they tell Lorraine, they said so and so was picked up and thrown down.

410
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She paused. And she says, I'm so sorry. She goes, Joe, she goes, Orlando, please tell the family. I'm sorry, but I will not come out to the house ever. I will never put one foot in the house. And they're like, Lorraine, you have to please help us. This is something really rare. And she says, give them my phone number. I will talk to them on the phone. I will do what I can do far away.

411
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But she goes, guys, what you're describing, she goes, I will not put one foot in the house. So they thought they had an ace in the hole. After that, they were like, oh my God. So they didn't want to give up. Joe was like, we're not going to give up on you guys. You know, we do this. We have real jobs. We don't even want to go home.

412
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Orlando says, I maybe I should sleep here. He's no, no, no. He goes, we got to think we have real jobs. So the lady says, you know what, I'm I'm sensitive. I have sage. She goes, the best we can do is we bless your house and burn sage. So they went through the whole thing. They said, call us. Even if it's like whatever time of day you call it will come up. Now they lived like two almost two hours away.

413
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Yeah, so the next morning we get up and we are we get the kids ready. We get them all dressed up. And now we decide, you know what, let's we couldn't wrap our hands around because it was like science fiction. We were like, what the hell happened last night? We're like, this is this is not real. So we get the kids ready.

414
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Elka makes the bed. Elka's a really clean freak. Right. She makes sure everything's 100%. We leave for the day. We go tag sailing. We're having a good time. We got the we come home. We go upstairs. I'll get the kids ready for bed. And guess what happens? I go in a bedroom and I'm like, what the hell? You know, that's how I am.

415
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That's how the kids grew up with Jaddle. What the fuck? Right. So she I hear Elka scream and she's bawling her eyes out at the same time. She's in the baby's room. And I'm like, she's like, what's going on? I can hear the tears. And I don't know. I'm telling you, do you want to show them the Bible? Yeah, so we're going to give you guys a real treat. We're going to show you the actual Bible that happened. Wow. It's right here. Oh, that's cool. So what happened was Elka had placed in the baby's closet for protection.

416
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An old German Bible from her great grandmother. And she put it in a closet that we had built to protect the kids because they talked about spooky in the room. What I saw in the bedroom was when we were gone, somebody took like a whole bunch of sage sage sage my guy can speak English.

417
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No more sage and took it and crumpled it and threw it all over the bed. Wow. It's got a random phase. I love it. I saw that. That was awesome. Yeah. You'll be on the bloopers. Right. It'll be on the bloopers. So there was sage everywhere. So I'm like, what the hell? How can this happen? Nobody was home. So I go in. I hear her crying. She's on the ground. And I'll let her explain is this is the Bible. This is all the pages guys. It was written in the Bible.

418
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It was all mine. Oh, and out of the closet. And it was shredded and she's screaming. She's like, this was my great grandmother's Bible. It's actually written in old German. Right. I'll go I'll let you tell the story. And that's one. Yeah, no, I mean, I when I entered the room, this was all over the floor. So and this was on the top shelf in that closet. So I think this was kind of like a sign to say, hey, I don't believe in anything what you guys do.

419
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So yeah, it was like, you know, here's your hocus pocus. What's next? Bring it on people. So we called Joe, we called Orlando. They were they were mystified. They're like, let me check. They called up the woman. They said, no, we have all of our sage here. Everything's accounted for. They're like, take a picture. And I wish we had a picture. But back then, we didn't have iPhones. You know, we didn't come out. Yeah, I wish they did, because we would have some crazy evidence. So now we're beating our heads now.

420
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They come over only two of them, they said for our team safety, because they came over one other time. And the our day minister got messed up in the basement, he got thrown against the walls. We don't talk about this. But and she's like, you know what? She had to she was reliving. What happened to her? She was terrified because she didn't want to press the buttons and get picked up anymore. So they left. So when Joe Orlando came back over, they said, guys, due to the safety of our team, because we didn't want to be in the basement.

421
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We don't know what's in his house. We're, we're not going to give up on you guys. But we are the only ones that will come to your house is only me and Orlando. Anybody comes here saying they're from our team. Don't let them in. We can't let anybody else get hurt. They said this. And they said, we don't even know what's going to happen to us. So as that happened, Elko was buying. So we're looking in the paper, we said, we don't need no more paranormal things we need. We need the power of God. So as I'm walking, I find this one guy.

422
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And he says he deals with demonic cases. He works with Bishop McKenna and all the high clergy. And his name was Robert Baker. Now, this guy was a true warrior and a paranormal. I called him up. Phone call us about two hours. Now, while we're on the phone.

423
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Bob was like, it's not funny. This is not a funny thing. He goes, I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes, I don't like it. He says, you just told me when I come over that you're gonna fucking stab me to death. I'm like, I never said that. He goes, Jay, he goes, I heard somebody saying that come on over. I'll kill you to I'll stab you. So Bob, I think funny. So also in Bob's phone starts going haywire. So at the end of phone call, he goes, if this is really real, what you tell me, he goes, I want to know.

424
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I want names and phone numbers of people that were in your house. He goes, I'm not coming in your house without a member of the clergy because I've been attacked. He goes, but I want to make sure this is real because he goes, this is crazy. He goes, what you're telling me is very rare. So I give him everybody's name was there. I said, some people won't talk to you, which you guys know the parallel field is some people won't talk to you. Some people will. So part of month goes by. He called up because I verified everything you said. He goes, you're right. Some people don't need to go off. The other people said some people weren't.

425
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They said, don't get involved there. They said, Bob, get involved there. Your life will not be the same. They said, in the house and Bob's like, I'm coming over. I'm going to bring a priest. His name is Father Robert Bailey. And so they get involved. And I'm watching it. I don't know how much time we got left. So guys, let me know. No, don't worry. Don't worry. Keep going. So this is the early day. So Father Bailey came over and, you know, everything was happy.

426
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He thought it was like a normal investigation. They're going around. They take a break and Father Bob, he's all happy. You know, it's like a normal like paranormal investigation until Father Bob's like, where's my rosaries? What do you mean?

427
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Yeah.

428
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He said, those rosaries are sacred to me. He goes, those are old. They ever given it to me by somebody. They said, Bob, they said, Father Bob, you had them upstairs. So everybody starts running around looking for Father Bob's rosaries.

429
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So Bob turns around and he's checking his pockets and everything. He can't find them. And he's walking towards me and Elka, the kind of consolers like, hey guys, everything's me okay. All of a sudden, it was like a Clint Eastwood movie. He stops in his tracks.

430
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And he looks and his rosaries are hanging out his pocket. He said, Bob, I could feel something slide them into my pocket. And then Father Bob, from being a happy little guy, now he's upset. Now he's going off and he wants to nail this thing.

431
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So they leave. So Bob ends up, finally he brings in the bishop. I'm going to jump ahead. He said, guys, the only thing I got left, he goes, is I got all these TV shows. They come to me. I tell them, you know what, I don't have nothing for you because, but at this point, I want you to do as many shows as possible. Somebody out there is going to know how to get rid of this. He goes, I'm not giving up on you like the rest of the people. He goes, we're going to fight this fight.

432
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And he says, we got to do as many shows. So we did the first show on the Animal Planet. So they told Father Bob, they said, we need to have a happy ending. Tell them that it's gone. So on Animal Planet, you see, they said, well, Father Bob said, well, we got the end of the corner. Bam, we kicked his ass. It's gone. But in reality, it wasn't gone. So now-

433
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Hey, Jane, not to interrupt you real quick. I just want to say something. I got a mic. I didn't realize my computer for some reason, the power cord wasn't plugged in. So keep talking. I'm just going to step off for real quick. I can still hear what you're saying, but just keep talking. I didn't want you to get nervous. I stepped away. So please keep going with what you're saying.

434
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So as this is all going on, he brings in, he goes, I got one last guy. His name is Bishop McKenna. He goes, I'm really good friends with the Bishop. He goes, the guy gave me a piece of cloth from Padre Pio. I actually got a relic from the real St. Valentine. And he says, he goes, these things are nasty. So he calls up the Bishop and he says, Bishop, I have a severe case. And Bishop says, Bob, I just retired.

435
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He goes, I'm done. He goes, and so he goes, but there's little kids involved. There's babies involved. So the Bishop says, one last time, Bob, what the hell, right? He didn't say what the hell. He goes, what the heck? I know, right? So Bob says, listen, the Bishop likes all these little snacks and all this type of thing. He goes, make sure you have a lot of stuff here for him because he likes a snack.

436
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So we get ready. We take the day off from work. Bob calls up and he says, hey, I'm 15 minutes away from the Bishop's residence. Are you guys home? You got all the snacks? I said, yeah. He goes, I really hope you know what this means. He goes, I have to ride all the way to your house with the Bishop talking about God and Jesus and ride all the way back with all my defects.

437
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So I said, okay, we're all safe. He goes, good, good. He goes, I'm close to his house. Five minutes later, he calls up and he says, guys, I don't know how to tell you this, but this is really weird. He says, the Bishop's secretary just called. The Bishop wrote on a piece of paper, he got struck with a mouth infection and can't speak.

438
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And he says to let you know that he's coming out, but he's not going to announce what happened in case of what happened to him came from your house. So three months later, I hear knock on the door. So I open up and he's a short little guy hunched over. So people know me when I answer the door. I sometimes swear being a trade fields.

439
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I open the door and I'm like, what the fuck? I didn't see. He looks at me and he goes, we'll talk about this after. And I'm like, he goes up and he goes in a house and he says, tell me what happens. He goes through the house and he blesses everything. And he stops and he looks, he goes, I'm not done with your luggers. He goes, I haven't started yet. He goes, he's not done with your luggers.

440
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He goes, I haven't started yet. He goes, keep playing your games. So really nice guy. I'm like, so I look at, I look at Elka and Bob and I like this. I didn't know the Bishop turned around and I'm like, is he crazy? Bishop goes like this. He goes, we're going to have a talk after Mr.

441
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I'm like, God, I'm not doing very well with the Bishop here. I already swore and now I'm calling him crazy. So he goes to the thing. So he gets done and he asked if we needed things blessed. So I had blessed crosses and things and he has his little Holy water and he's blessing things and the table is full of people.

442
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And all of a sudden he goes down to get his Holy water. His Holy water is gone in front of everybody. His Holy water dematerialized. So Bob is grabbing everything. He's grabbing flowers. He's grabbing everything. Picks up his briefcase and underneath the briefcase was his little bottle of Holy water.

443
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And the Bishop thought and he said, well, here's the thing guys. He goes, the good, we had a big talk afterwards. I said, well, it's gone, right? You're the Rocky Balboa's of the world. He goes, no. He goes, here's what happened. A lot of priests have died fighting these entities.

444
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He goes, we don't always win. He goes, I don't want to, you know, rain on your parade. He goes, the good guys don't always win. He goes, a lot of times he goes, we lose our lives doing this stuff. He goes, the best thing we can hope is that we did our job. It doesn't like it. They leave.

445
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But he said, I have to warn you Jay, because I don't want the kids around. I say this. He goes, if it comes back, he says, it's going to bring friends. It's going to get stronger. And he goes, you're going to be on a fight for your life. And that's how we love it.

446
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Now, has it ever came back? That's what I wanted to ask you. Now that you've told this all to us, has it came back? It did come back. It did come back. It came back with a vengeance. And now my family's dying. My brother dies. We don't know how he died. My sister died.

447
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Elka's dog died. The lawyer who was helping me, a good friend of mine, Mike, he dies. And this is all happening within, not years, but within, within months.

448
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:49,320
Yeah. Now, at the last show we did was on Discovery A Haunting. We ended up getting a phone call from a lady. She said, my husband can help you. Him and his friend, they have a special gift. The guy was, the guy's name was Jay Dodd and Reverend Neer Farley.

449
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So they paid for the whole trip up here. They didn't have to take any time. They said, we're doing God's work. And Jay Dodd, he did, he was a form of exorcist, but he had his things where he worked differently. And Reverend Farley was, you know, he did his thing.

450
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So they came up and the first night they spent, they had a prayer chain around the whole world praying for us. So the next day, this is what happened. They, we've been, like I said, we've been through the wringer.

451
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They had called us up and they said, Hey, the house feels good, right? You smell all this roses, happiness. I said, no. I said, I just saw the black shadow on top of the staircase.

452
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He says, can't be. So Jay Dodd says, I don't know what you're pulling, but we're coming over. So Jay Dodd starts to drill me. He says, listen, with everybody you had in your house, he said, with everything that has happened, he goes,

453
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what's your gig? Why should be gone? We never failed. And he says, what are you trying to accomplish here? I said, nothing. I said, I really saw it. As we're talking, Jay Dodd looked, his face dropped and he yells out, Neil, it's still here.

454
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And Neil's like, what are you talking about? He goes, it's standing in front of me. He had a sick site and this entity came down the stairs and stood right in front of him. Neil comes over and he's like, Oh my God, what did we miss?

455
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He goes, Jay, I'm so sorry. He goes, everything that we've done, we never failed a case. And he goes, what happened? He goes, guys, he goes, it's still here. So they paid another night at the hotel. They talked to people. They got the spirit guys, everything they got in there.

456
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They said, what did we miss? Right, Elka. And basically he said, Neil said, did we ask if we could place, we didn't ask permission to have the hand of God placed on the house.

457
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So when they were done, the next day they came over, they didn't call it, they just came over and the house felt like it was washing itself.

458
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Really? We had peace. The kids were laughing. We stopped talking about it. And I was in a severe car accident and we tried selling the house. Now that was another story. Why don't you just pick up and move?

459
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We tried three times, almost four times and something happened so bad that we couldn't move. So we had almost two years of peace and we couldn't sell the house. It wouldn't sell. So the realtor had her husband come over. She goes, Jay, with your brains and my husband's body.

460
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Both of you guys can form one person. She goes, teach them the trades. There was actually at this point, we opened up the house to one. So the house was one unit.

461
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And then when he had the car accident and we couldn't sell the house, the realtor suggested put it back into a duplex, rent out the one side so you have income coming in, helps you going through the hard times.

462
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That's how they started putting the house together again into one to get it rented. And that was point two, people saying why we didn't hear from you over ten years, anything, because the kids started going now, talking about kindergarten, first grade, where people started or classmates were saying, oh, you live in a spooky house.

463
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So we stopped. Now we started bringing it up. I had actually a couple of teachers come up to me and ask. Yeah. So we actually stepped back or actually my kids were the first one who got thrown out of Catholic kindergarten because they're scared the nuns about having dead people walking in the hallway.

464
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So we had to take them out. So we said, hey, we have to stop. We cannot talk about it anymore. Whatever happened. It's here. We can't get rid of it.

465
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So you know, bringing up and I mean, I don't know, but I had a teacher make an assignment about the house and everything. Last year. Yeah. With the October and everything. He made an assignment about my house. Holy crap.

466
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Wow. That's really cool. So like right now, like right at this moment, you're in the house where all this happened. It's just on the other side of the home, right? Or no, it's everywhere. It bounces. It goes back and forth.

467
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I mean, sometimes we like last year when we started doing this, we had a really nice guy come in there and the guy was a Baptist minister and he didn't believe it. So he came over and it's something got him. So that was a first warning sign.

468
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:46,320
We're like, you know what? Let's pray to God spooky, but the kids named them isn't back. So he came over to do an investigation and while he was here, whatever, we actually, we rented the place out, but we never had long term renters.

469
00:59:46,320 --> 01:00:02,320
We couldn't keep renters and that's what we have to year. But the last ones would be found out kind of like they were playing. I don't know if they played with the reach you board or whatever they did. I'm having to work in and it picked up.

470
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:16,320
The last ones that were here, it's weird. If you come in with pure intentions and you're going to investigate, you're fine. But the people that rented out the house last time, they had alternative motives.

471
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:32,320
And within less than three months, they went from supposed to be decent people. They literally went crazy. They lost their minds. They had no idea. They thought they were in total control of everything. They lost their minds. They ended up splitting up.

472
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:47,320
And whatever was around the house affected them because they knew that they had alternative motives. They weren't here to rent and they knew whatever this thing is, it knows who you are. It's weird.

473
01:00:47,320 --> 01:01:03,320
It's weird. So that one entity we believe is gone. If he ever came back, we would never rent out. We would never do what we're doing now because after our experience, after all the people, everybody that we went through, we only got help once.

474
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:16,320
We had Native Americans. We had shamans. We had rabbis. I even knew a guy in Springfield, Mass. He was a high witch. I don't know what you call him. A warlock, yeah.

475
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:34,320
He came up because I knew him years ago from the 80s from my sister. She knew him. And he came up and everything kept saying, yeah, something's here. But what we found out was that one evil entity went to J. Dodd and said to him, get out of the field.

476
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:50,320
Leave this house alone. And J. Dodd said, I'm a man of God. No way. The entity said to J. Dodd in a dream. It's actually if you go on a radio show we just did with Greg Balkan, J. Dodd tells a story and he says, I thought this was all BS.

477
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:57,320
He goes, I told the entity, go pound sand. He goes, I'm a man of God. Leave me alone. So the entity says, I told you who I was. Now I'll show you.

478
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:07,320
A week later, J. Dodd had a massive heart attack and almost died. The entity came back in a dream and says, now you know who I am. And J. Dodd was like, you know, I guess there was a deal struck.

479
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:20,320
And he won't tell me what the deal was. He just said that he couldn't help us out anymore. And at that point, I think they made a deal saying that if he stays out of it and helping people, the entity will stay away from here.

480
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:29,320
Now it sounds like science fiction, but no, no, it doesn't though. It doesn't. It makes complete sense because if you think about it in the aspect of an enemy, what would the enemy want?

481
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:39,320
Obviously the enemy would want to penetrate any way it can. So if it can strike a negotiation and still get what it wants, it kind of works out. It takes your soul instead of taking all three of yours.

482
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:51,320
But I still get a soul. So it still works out in the end for it. So I kind of understand, you know, in a way, I mean, but I feel bad for Dodd and what he did because who knows what the deal was. You know what I mean?

483
01:02:52,320 --> 01:03:01,320
He's something he obviously doesn't speak too much about. So it's like, it's scary to think about what that deal could have been after a massive heart attack and finding out like, listen, do you know who I am now?

484
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:08,320
Because I know if I made a deal, I'm sure I would have made some crazy deal. You know what I mean? And after a major heart attack, I can only imagine what you would think, you know?

485
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:27,320
Yeah. And that's what I want to take this on. I want to, I haven't done a home case in two years and I've helped 15 families coast to coast. I did it all on my own dime. I believe in helping people, you know, if I came out there, would you let me help you?

486
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:39,320
Yeah. I mean, that's what we, that's what we turned it into. We turned it into where we let paranormal investigators now come out. They rent a house all the night. They go go something.

487
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:52,320
So, yeah, I mean, guys, I mean, we had people come in all year and some people get nothing. Some people get evidence, which, which, you know, you can't get paranormal on demand.

488
01:03:52,320 --> 01:04:08,320
But we've also had a couple scammers come in and I really think that the end, whatever was in a house actually messed with them because they, they literally, when you hear what happened, I won't say on the radio, but during national goals hunting day, we had somebody come in that lost their mind.

489
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:22,320
And they still talk about us, but they think that they, but when you look at it as a separate person, you realize that this is not normal what they're talking about. So, but yeah, people come, they go go something.

490
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:41,320
We had somebody come in last night and it's, it's neat to see because not everybody gets evidence, which is, which is real. And, you know, and we watch up for the fakers and things like that. But yeah, I mean, people have come in and they came on this side and they had some pretty cool evidence.

491
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:43,320
That's awesome.

492
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,320
So, you know, I can fly to Connecticut, man.

493
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,320
Yeah, man. I said, I'm not going to do it. I'm from the Oxford.

494
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,320
You're such a great family, you know?

495
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:03,320
Yeah. That's what I'm saying, man. Come out here. We'll go down and we'll get set up. We'll do investigation. We'll do it. Like I was telling you, for sure.

496
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,320
So, it's got to get them up this way.

497
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:19,320
And you guys have any questions? Ask us guys. I know I told you a little bit about the early days. Like I said, we have 17 years here and we, there's so much more and it's crazy. And, and that's what this article was, guys.

498
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:30,320
When we were going to do the Warren's Purr-Con courtesy of Dan Riviera and Espar, a team came in, SRS Paranormal, really great people. They did not want to know anything about the house.

499
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:42,320
So we're like, no, no, nothing. I said, no, we're, we're coming from Tennessee and we're going to rent this site out for the night. So the next day we were at the paracon and they're like, oh my God. They said your house came alive.

500
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:50,320
Now they were psychic mediums. They didn't know any of the stories. Now there's a lot of things that we don't talk about. When people come in, normally we just talk about the history of the house.

501
01:05:50,320 --> 01:06:03,320
So we tried getting together since October 27th and every time we try to get together, something would happen. So they composed a huge report, which is awesome. We got to talk to them.

502
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:13,320
And one of the things in here, which was really cool was back in 2008, we had a team of psychic mediums from New Hampshire come in.

503
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:26,320
And they told us about the story about this guy and all this stuff. We never, we don't tell people all the stories, but when they did a report, they picked up an entity who was in charge.

504
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:36,320
And there's a part we can't confirm where we know there was a, before the mafia was a mafia, there was a hitman that lived here.

505
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:48,320
He was very, he was very deli. He was good at what he did. And by day he worked at the mills on the side. He ran, he ran the bootleg industry.

506
01:06:49,320 --> 01:07:00,320
And there was also part of the newspaper said that this person is no stranger to a few years before he killed, he stabbed one of his fellow countrymen, never went to jail. Now this is 1929, 1930.

507
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:13,320
I was fortunately guys, I was on two occasions, his son who was still alive in his eight late eighties and nineties, so much me and wanted to talk to me about the house.

508
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,320
Now, science fiction movies guys, right? Yeah. Yeah.

509
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:28,320
Bob Baker says, I'll talk to the guy. I'm not afraid of old guy. Bob comes back and he says, don't ever call this guy again. He said to me, he goes, why are you digging in the past, Bob?

510
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:41,320
He goes, my father was a very dangerous man, but he also loved us and took care of us. He said, you know, Bob, he says, the more you dig around that house, he goes, you don't want to become a ghost. Do you one day? You don't want to be part of the history, right?

511
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:55,320
So Bob's like, I think the guy just threatened to kill me. So a few years later, 2014, the lady at the town hall, she did all the research for us. She says, I got to talk to Mr. Comparato.

512
01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:11,320
He wants to talk to you. He goes, he's not a bad guy. So I finally make a phone call and it reminded me like I went back in time. Reminded you. Yeah. He wouldn't talk to me directly. He would tell his new wife about the history.

513
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:20,320
She would repeat it back to me, just like the old style. So if I could sit down, I never talked to him. I'll take a lie detector. Never happened.

514
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:31,320
So I would tell her she would be back and he told me he filled in all the blanks about his dad. It really happened. And it's like a love triangle. It really weird on what happened.

515
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:39,320
We thought he got up from what the newspaper article said. We thought he got up, went down the street and committed two murders.

516
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:46,320
It was his best friend and he was having an affair with his best friend and wife who was 15 years younger.

517
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:54,320
Oh my gosh. I'll give you guys a treat. Do you want to see the people he murdered? I got their photo. Oh my gosh. Yes.

518
01:08:55,320 --> 01:09:05,320
Guys, I got to search for Elko. And the funny and that SRS that group actually who doesn't know anything about the house. They were talking about they picked up on him. They actually had come in with that guy. Yeah.

519
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:21,320
So and I mean we all had our encounters. I had that a lot of paranormal groups have recordings where he asked, where's Rosa? I had it down in the cellar that someone tipped on my shoulder and said, where is Rosa? So he's really still active here in the house. So he's kind of.

520
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:36,320
He's still here. Yeah. I'll go in the basement like she said to get some Yankee candles and somebody came up and grabbed her on her shoulder and said, where is Rosa? He's not looking for Rosa in a happy way because I think we know what happened. These were the people he killed.

521
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:51,320
Oh wow. Wow. And he fought in World War I with that was his best friend's wife. And I'll tell you guys, this house should never have been built here. There's so much macabre stories I can tell you guys. It would take hours. But what happened, the newspaper article said he went down to the basement and he was like, oh, I'm going to go to the basement.

522
01:09:51,320 --> 01:10:06,320
And he stabbed her repeatedly with a knife until she fell down. Then he went back inside the house, went in the basement where his best friend was eating lunch and he stabbed her repeatedly with a knife until she fell down.

523
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:25,320
Then he went back inside the house, went in the basement where his best friend was eating lunch. Now none of this in the beginning made sense because I'm looking at this as an investigator. I'm like, yeah, offensive wounds are not aggressive wounds. They said his best friend was shot. Bam. Right. And then he had his throat sliced.

524
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:44,320
And I said, that makes no sense. So when I talked to him, it made sense. So I walked, I said, my daughter was outside telling me, I jumped up, I said, she did it. I said she was a black widow. And she was like, what are you talking about? I called Conning from the town hall and said, switch the investigation to Rosa. Rosa was a black widow.

525
01:10:44,320 --> 01:11:04,320
I jumped up, I said, she did it. I said she was a black widow. And she was like, what are you talking about? I called Conning from the town hall and said, switch the investigation to Rosa. Rosa's dad lived in New York City at the same time when the modern mafia was being built in the 1920s.

526
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:25,320
So all of these, I got chills. Every time I talk about the story, everybody knows he comes in. At the time, Charles Luciano, right, was running around. Bugs Moran, all these young mafia guys were running on the streets. They weren't organized until the 1930s. So Charles Luciano says enough is enough. We're going to get taken over by the government.

527
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:42,320
So at the time, the original society in Sicily was called the Black Hand Society. They were very secretive. They weren't like the American where they always had papers. So what happened was Rosa's father was living in New York City. And now we start piecing the proof.

528
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:58,320
I think that day on June 10th, the son told us he was eight years old. He remembers that day. His father goes in the basement, brings up two bottles of wine, and they all toasted. This will be the last night we will all be together again.

529
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:16,320
And they all toasted. Now he said the next day, Mr. Yaple, my father was supposed to go down, take Josephine. He goes, he loved her to the moon and back. He goes, wherever we went, like to the beach, he would grab Josephine's hand and they would take off for the day. He goes, you know what happened, Mr. Yaple. I don't think go into details.

530
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:34,320
So as this all happened, he goes, why would my father kill the love of his life and his best friend, he fought in the war where he vows for his citizenship. And then when I thought, oh my God, Rosa, Rosa told her father, Rosa's father put together a hit team. This sounds like science fiction.

531
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:54,320
No, yeah, but that makes sense. Yeah. He told Rosa, we believe this is all speculation. He told Rosa, get everything in your name so you're not left. Now remember, this is 1929, 1930. We're going into the mass of depression. Alcohol is bootleg legal. Everything's going crazy. Yeah.

532
01:12:54,320 --> 01:13:10,320
She, her father probably said, get everything in your name. She did. We know that on June 10th, Charles puts the house in the Rose's name. The bank accounts went into Rose's name. He gave her like a peace offering. Rosa, leave me alone. I want to go live my life.

533
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:29,320
I think he wanted to walk away like a fairy tale. He wanted to walk away. He didn't want to be in the picture no more. He wanted to have his cake and eat it so that that morning he gets up all happy, probably whistling, putting on his dapper don, getting his suit on, and they're probably having dinner and now Rosa can't take it no more.

534
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:54,320
Rosa says, go have, excuse me guys, if you get offended with me, go have fun with your whore. Oh, and by the way, Charles, I talked to my dad. At that point, he probably said, Rosa, what did you do? He probably, they said in the newspaper article, he grabbed his Colt 38, which is a small gun, and he grabbed probably a knife or something off the table and he ran down the street, not to kill him, but to warn him.

535
01:13:54,320 --> 01:14:09,320
And he's probably yelling, Josephine, Angelo, don't open the door. I'm coming in. They were already inside the house. They weren't expecting her to run. So she loves him. So she opens the door to run out and they stab her. Bam, bam, bam.

536
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:26,320
She's in front of him. He loses his mind because he just saw the love of his life die in front of him. He doesn't even have time to draw his weapon. He runs in the newspaper article. Now this is where it gets like a paradox. We have his official death certificate where he says he died in the house.

537
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:40,320
But the newspaper article and people who were there said that they found him lying by the doorway in a living room with, this is kind of sad, with his knife in his hand, his gun by his side and a bullet hole in his head.

538
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:49,320
So I think he's running in somebody. They knew he was a big guy. They knew he killed people. They were afraid of this guy. They didn't want this guy in the house.

539
01:14:49,320 --> 01:15:04,320
So when he ran in thinking he's going to save his best friend, boom, and he gets shot. When that happens, his best friend who's in the basement eating lunch with his kids, they hear the gunshot. Now he knows, you know what, we're screwed.

540
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:18,320
These guys here, I'm next. So whatever he does, he goes to grab something off the table, a fork and knife, we don't know, a spoon. And when he does that, that's when, bang, he gets shot in the arm, kind of like to drop whatever he had in his hand.

541
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:32,320
I think behind him, Bobby said, fuck it, grabbed him, gave him a Sicilian necktie, went on the railroad tracks, jumped on the train. And the only one that survived in the end was Rosa.

542
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:43,320
And she disappears. Colleen can't find, she knows she went to Rhode Island, can't find a cemetery, nothing. It's like she vanished.

543
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:53,320
Oh, that is so wild. Well, you know what, right there was definitely had to be the end right there of what you just said. I mean, there's so much more that I need to have you guys on for to ask so much questions because

544
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,320
Yeah, you gotta come on again.

545
01:15:55,320 --> 01:16:10,320
Yes, please come on again. Definitely, Jay, please, you know, go ahead and even Mackenzie. I mean, you guys need to come on again because there's so much more that now to know so much of this to ask so much more questions. Unfortunately, we're over an hour and 16 minutes, but I wanted to, I wanted to finish all of it.

546
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:16,320
Yeah, but it all.

547
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,320
Yeah.

548
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:25,320
And that's one story guys we have other Macau stories. Well, you have to come on again.

549
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:43,320
But to give you to give you guys to to to trivial things right out of 256 years on this house is built. Only one person died of natural causes in his house, she died in 1800 from broken ammonia.

550
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:59,320
And he has no babies were ever conceived in his house nobody bought this house have a family and started having kids. They either came in with young children, or they came over teenagers or adults, and they all died tragedy or they had suicide or murders.

551
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:11,320
Oh my gosh, batting record in 256 years. I remember you saying that to me. Yeah, that's wild. What a what a what a like not I didn't want to say coincidence because I don't believe in coincidences but what a coincidence.

552
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,320
You know what I mean if that makes any sense.

553
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:24,320
Yeah, but oh my gosh that is so wild well thank you guys so much for coming on I really appreciate your guys time we're going to schedule another one to have you guys come on again but thank you so much.

554
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:30,320
Thank you guys are welcome. Great time. I wish I had more time to

555
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,320
listen we will.

556
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:45,320
I'll go to a whole lot of stories Kenzie got stories and yeah, I will know what let's let's get you to come back on for sure so what I'll do is when we get done I'll, I'll set you up with another day I'll send over some dates to you guys and we can get you back on

557
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,320
because we got so much more to talk about.

558
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,320
Yeah, I see.

559
01:17:52,320 --> 01:18:11,320
I'm going to tell me the minute that we get off he's going to go bro. We're going there tomorrow.

560
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:18,320
I'm an infantry grunt. I am a fighter man I am an infantry grunt survived Iraq.

561
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:27,320
I'm ready dude. You know what that was my first MLS was love and Bravo love and Charlie. Yep. Holy catcher.

562
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:34,320
Oh my god this would be awesome. Right. See I told you I see I knew you guys are kicking off right away right.

563
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:41,320
Awesome and well hey thank you guys so much I appreciate you guys for coming on and we're gonna be definitely talking real soon so I really appreciate you guys.

564
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:48,320
All right. Talk to you soon. Bye you too. Thank you.

565
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,320
Wow, man. That was awesome.

566
01:18:51,320 --> 01:19:05,320
I enjoyed that. I haven't been so motivated to come to Connecticut, since I've talked to these people like right, I want to take this thing out like I want to go around, you have to understand some I see what like he said though.

567
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:17,320
Ever since the guy Jay Dodd make that made that on packed or that deal with whatever this entity was. It hasn't came back and affected the family.

568
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:26,320
Yeah, there's other spirits in the house though that are being active as they're telling you as people are catching, but I want to know what that deal was.

569
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:33,320
You know what I'm saying, and I know that we'll never know.

570
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:41,320
And I tell you what man and I know what you know I talked to I don't talk to Jay along for a while before having them on the show and I tell you what they are a great family.

571
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:58,320
He is really passionate about like the history of this house he really went deep into it. And what they went through was no joke I mean that Bible they showed that was serious to alcohol I mean I spoke to Elka personally on the first day we spoke and she was in tears almost

572
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:06,320
the Bible because it was so sentimental to her from her grandmother was like you know a big ordeal so when she got the show with that.

573
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:19,320
Yeah, I had that client in Canada that I couldn't go to Canada it was during COVID and stuff and and this entity cut her daughter's hair. It was all her hair was all over the floor and she was balling.

574
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:28,320
Yeah, she's like what do I do I'm like, I can't get there.

575
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:49,320
I can't even imagine well guys thank you so much for tuning into another episode of talking with the source. My name is AJ Capasso host of talking with the source, and I'm here with JK 47 Jonathan Keyworth of paranormal JK 47 paranormal investigations please shout out your podcast, my friend.

576
01:20:49,320 --> 01:21:16,320
So I love this show I'm also on on Tuesdays that's when I do my live spirit box sessions. It's at 12pm Mountain Time so 2pm Eastern. And then I also do the darkness descends on legit podcast at 805pm Mountain Time so 1005 Eastern on Fridays, so Chris Chris says, my two favorite hosts.

577
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:26,320
Yeah, that's a good one. Kevin. Thank you, man. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Alright everybody. Thank you so much.

578
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:51,320
Thank you.