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What? What's going on everybody?

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This is AJ Capasso here with another episode of Talking With The Source.

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Thank you guys so much for tuning in.

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I'm here with one of my best friends, Jonathan Kieworth of JK47 Paranormal Investigations.

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What is up my brother? How have you been this week?

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Dude, I'm good man. I'm just happy today's here, end of the football season, Super Bowl Sunday.

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I get to pig out and drink some beers. So yeah, I'm happy man.

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Nice, nice, nice.

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You want to talk about a little bit about what you got real quick? Some pigs in the blanket, pepperoni pizza.

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You ain't messing around.

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Pig in the blanket, some mini corn dogs, you know.

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That's it.

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There we go. There we go.

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Well, you know what? I want to say real quick before we begin, I want to give a shout out to Parapost Network Central.

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Right now we are streaming live on Parapost Network Central.

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It's the home of some amazing podcasts.

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If you do know it, head over to Facebook and check out some more amazing shows that are about to be coming onto the platform.

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And as well as if you don't know it, head over to Parapost Network Central on Facebook.

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Also, Parapost.net as well as the Parapost Network Central app that we have.

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It's a community of Paranormal researchers.

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You guys got an app and everything. What about Global Ghost Hunts, dude?

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Wait, you didn't even let me get to the finish of it, OK?

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I'm just excited.

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I know, right? Thank you, brother.

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So anyway, what he was saying was Global Ghost Hunt is about to begin on April 26th, I believe, to May 5th.

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I believe I'm right if I said that.

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Hopefully if I'm wrong, someone will correct me.

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Definitely. I know it.

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But anyway, if you don't know, yeah, Brian will be here in a minute with that.

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But anyway, besides that, head over to www.globalghosthunt.com.

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If you are a Paranormal researcher or you have a team and you would like to be part of this coming event,

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we have one in April and May and one in October.

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So last year we had amazing views and we can't wait to see what brings forward this year.

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What's going on, Chris?

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But real quick, I want to give a shout out to the people that we are bringing on right now.

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They are an amazing family team.

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It's an amazing duo, a mother and son, Debbie and Ryan of Esoteric Reveals.

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Debbie has multiple years of paranormal experience.

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Ryan himself as well.

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They're there helping, working and just trying to help as many people as possible.

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And mainly, like we were talking in back, is one of the biggest things is so you don't feel like you're crazy.

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So let me bring them forward.

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I'm super excited to have these guys on.

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Couldn't be more happy to be their friend.

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What's up, guys?

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Hey, how are you guys?

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Fantastic. Living the dream. How about you guys?

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Same. Same.

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Nice. Thank you for having us.

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No, thank you for coming on. I really appreciate it.

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I mean, I appreciate you reaching.

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I mean, I reached out to you guys on TikTok and I appreciate you guys taking the time to reach out back and come on the show.

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So thank you so much.

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John, first question. You start, brother.

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All right. So backstage, we were talking about home investigations and everything.

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And I've I've I've done a lot of them.

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I've gone from coast to coast, just helping people on my own dime and stuff.

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So so when you get to these people's houses, like I know they're kind of nervous about explaining the situation and you know, their identity and everything.

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But like, I guess my biggest question would be like, like, how do you guys help these families out? What do you what what do you do to help them out and make them feel comfortable and safe?

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You're not there to put a camera in their face and expose them, judge them. And you got to sit down and talk and build a good rapport with them and let them treat them just like them.

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You know, yeah, we're going to definitely get a background. But, you know, sometimes you do have to ask the hard questions.

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Like, is there any abuse in the family? You know, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, any history of drama?

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We're not here to judge you. We're here to help.

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And the only thing we want to hear is it's OK. You know, you're going to be all right.

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We'll get you. We'll do whatever we can. You know, I'm not a priest or nothing, but I'll get you help if that's the right thing.

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I'll do everything I can to get you in touch with the right people.

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You need someone professional to talk to. We can get you that.

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Her mom was murdered in the house a month or I went there and she was experiencing doors opening and closing.

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And after that first night, I knew it was her mom reaching out because this connection, that sudden disconnection from her daughter and her family.

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She wanted to make sure to say goodbye. And the second night I got I got the greatest responses that I've ever gotten through my SB seven.

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You know, I go in, I go in with the intention of love and light, you know, and I would say like 95 percent of my cases, it was all loved ones trying to get people's attention, you know, saying that they're there and they just wanted to say goodbye.

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It's like something that we've noticed is, yeah, that could be happening, but something else is always right there trying to peek through the veil also with it.

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And he did. How bad can you feel?

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Well, I'll kind of fill you in on what took place is I'm a type one diabetic and I was on the computer doing some work and my blood sugar was low and I wasn't paying attention.

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I said, OK, daddy, I'm going. And I mean, I'm 40 years old.

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I said, you know, I called him daddy. He called me baby. So what?

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I said, thank you, daddy. I'm going to go to the kitchen. I said, you want to follow me?

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You can. I said, yeah, I guess.

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I said, yeah, you did. Wow.

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You can't hear your own dad without using any device.

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He's like freaking out. I'm like, it's cool. Dad, you know, he'll love you.

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they stayed once they bypassed the light.

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They are stuck and trying to get rid of a negative entity for three years,

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and then they come back and they're stuck again.

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perform an exercise on the location places better for about six months.

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Spells circuit, call this thing and imp or.

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the spirit box that my father has gone, he has been the only one to come through

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on my on my box.

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He's there like talking immediately. Like I have sessions.

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You know, right.

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I even did a session for you trying to reach your dad.

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and I believe it's all that intention, you know, right.

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Right. But you have to be careful.

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When you're calling out, you always got to have your guard up because yes.

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If you miss too much, it will yell back.

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Always be careful.

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What do you guys do to protect yourself?

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How do you protect yourself when you go in?

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So, prayer, protect ourselves in the white light.

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I call it like the haunted gauntlet.

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You know, sometimes it's a physical battle sometimes.

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But we always go in protecting ourselves from everything around it

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I ended up in an ER, I promise.

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Todd said these praise himself from head to toe before entering the holy water.

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And he does a prayer for protection and then afterwards, he goes, even so, that's not enough.

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Like, it's not, man, it's just it really depends on what you're going up against.

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You know, unfortunately, we don't have the answers to all that stuff.

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You know what I mean?

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Right now, the big the big thing is demons.

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Oh, please don't even get me going.

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Yeah, it's like, no, I know.

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It's not like that.

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It's really not like that.

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And with the Native Americans, everything's Native Americans, you know?

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I hate that.

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You live in the United States.

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What's not American?

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Native Americans, probably.

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You're absolutely right.

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It makes me so upset that people do that because it's like you've already done so much.

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We've already done so much being settlers here in another land, taking their land away from them.

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Like now we're calling the paranormal feeling going, oh, well, now that's a demon.

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But it's because of the Indian burial ground that's there.

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It's like, are you serious?

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These guys are like lovers of nature, of everything.

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Like they don't mean and like that.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, what do you guys think?

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You're exactly right.

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You are exactly right because every time before I go into the investigation or I do a session, I give them praise.

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I invite them.

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I tell them they're welcome and they help.

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They help.

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They really do.

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But that's what gets me is being half Native American and you hear that and I wanted to say that like I just popped my mouth off.

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But I sit there and I, yeah, okay.

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I don't know how you do it.

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I swear, Debbie.

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I don't know how you do it because I can only imagine being, you know, Native American and then, you know, have that blood and then have someone say that to you.

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You know, that would be so hurtful in my eyes, you know, I've been hurt several times by it.

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But I mean, what can you say?

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You chose ignorance.

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Yeah, you know, you're absolutely right.

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You know, sorry, go ahead.

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What did you say, right?

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But the demon thing like that seems to be like the new thing.

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Everything on YouTube is demons.

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Everything on social media is demons.

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And I'm like, if it is, let's say it is, why do you want to glorify that negative?

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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I'm sorry, but as long as hanging out in an abandoned warehouse, like, you know, you got to, I think you need to understand that it's important to understand demons and like, you know, understand the schedules and how they work and how they respond.

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But for now, it's like everything we run into is, oh, it's a demon.

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It's a demon.

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He did call out a demon at the last investigation and I was on one side of the room.

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He was on the other and said, Oh, could it be any bugs are hitting me and got us by witness on the bike.

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I'm up.

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I'm flying over because they're called stink bugs.

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Yeah, I know what they are.

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I have them.

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I've never seen one.

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Oh my gosh.

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Wow.

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We have them all the time over here.

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They're annoying.

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I hate those bugs and you can't question them because you know, they stink.

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So it's like, Oh, you know, I, I, that is wild.

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See me personally, I don't, I don't believe in demons.

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I believe that, you know, you were a jerk in life and you were really mean, you know, that it will carry over in the afterlife.

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And, and if they go toward the lighter, explore the universe, that's, that's what keeps them here.

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And I think that they've been here for so long that they start to get pissed off and they, they want to move on, you know, and that's what I do.

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I'm not moving on.

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This is how I do it.

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Do you guys believe in moving on spirits or like if you have a little patient, will you help the spirit?

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Yeah, anything I can.

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Yes.

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I mean, there's many ways of doing that.

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It depends on the individual's ideology.

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If they're Christian, you got to, you know, use that tactic. If they're not Christian, you know, finding a way to like build some sort of archetypal figure for them that they can use.

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You know,

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I loved you said that. I love that you said that right there because that's one of the reasons why when I got into this field I had, I was addicted to opiates I died 12 times I had a near death experience.

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That really got me into this, this whole thing. When I came back, I started to experience things and I remember everything that happened where I went, what I experienced and it really was a profound thing that changed my life completely got me clean, literally changed my life by 180 flip.

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Thank you. And, but what I was going to say was, is you just said various or some very important when I got into this field, I decided that I didn't want to even though I was a Christian, I was brought up that way. I read the Bible. I was, you know, very into the Bible.

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But my thing was, is that I didn't want to look at this just from that point of view. So I went out and I looked at every major religion that I could learn as much and is still learning a lot about all.

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And then, not only that I try to ask my guys to tell me and show me things in a scientific type of way so that if I do deal with a skeptical person or a person that doesn't even believe in a higher power that I can relate to them in a way of energy vibration and

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frequency, and they'll understand that that's a truthful thing because that's scientific knowledge you know and now that we know with quantum mechanics and everything.

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We're able to relate some of the things that we're finding out in the field from our research to be able to relate to a field. Yeah.

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Collective unconscious has a lot to play.

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That's something we didn't know a lot to is, you know, you go into a place and you're just like, I feel really familiar here.

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And you know, never been there before in your life and like, you start to just see like pictures in your head and like, we're all connected, we're all intertwined, you know, and like you said, it's all frequency man it's all about vibration, frequency.

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And you gotta figure out how to relate to these individuals that may not be Catholic in response to an exorcist of the Catholic rights, they might be Buddhist.

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How do you have that message in their eyes that you know, you're going to be okay.

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Yeah, yeah, totally. I, and that's what I tell all my on all my shows, if anybody asks, you know, do you believe in God or whatever I believe in a source, I believe there is a source of energy.

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I believe people call it many different names all of Jesus God, you know, whatever I believe we all tap into that same source we just have different abbreviations or different, you know, intentions of that spirit.

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And, and, you know, I just believe that energy is is the key energy and frequency and vibration, you know, and I think if you can hone yourself in to accepting and loving yourself that that spirit will know that you're, you're there to help them.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, yeah, and like you're talking about like quantum mechanics is like, the more we start to learn about quantum development and it gets it gets kind of weird greedy like, I was there right.

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Yeah.

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Okay, there's some stuff going on here that makes a little bit of sense, you know, so.

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Yeah, as humans, you know, research, you know, we still have any, you know, that's that's the abstract.

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So it's like, just help just find a new kid.

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Yeah, exactly. I think Tony Rathman he was on two weeks ago. I think he said it best. He's like, what the veil is, is us, like, our human body held together that's the veil, you know, and that just odd me though the way he said it and I was like, Oh my God,

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never thought of it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely, absolutely. Sorry, I didn't know if you were gonna ask a question, John, I was gonna jump in.

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What I wanted to ask you, Debbie was I know you have, it's 40 plus years correct in this field.

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49 years next 49 years in this field. Wow. If you can tell a little bit to our viewers about your background and how your family was kind of like passed down like generation and generation I found that so fascinating in the back.

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Okay, my dad is Native American, Cherokee, my mother stays Caucasian, and it's on both sides of the family, the paranormal is, and they bought a house and it was built in 1847.

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Okay.

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They had to remodel it was the first house on the block.

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So they had to get it out, redo it all. And I was born in 61, of course.

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And by the time I was four years old, I was in a bike set because my family was down there, I was talking and laughing like I didn't have anything my neighbor friends over.

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My mom came down and she called me by my whole name.

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Debbie Jean, what are you doing? And I'm like, hi, my friends. And she's like, what do you really mean? She said, I'll be right there and she came right out.

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Well, there was a tragedy in the home. Okay.

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And I was playing with the little girl, sissy, what's her name? And Joel was a mother, will hold her as a child.

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She said, Mommy, your hand, have your friends. You'll see them later. She said she brought me upstairs.

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She went then and explained, you know, this is what you're seeing. This is, you know, they're not real. She explained the whole ground to me.

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Now, everything that goes, you know, they're not real. You know, you can't go down there and play with them. You can't have them upstairs.

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You can't keep them down there. You know, I wasn't allowed back down the base. I was just putting it out.

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Yeah, right.

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So after that, it just started picking up more and more and more. And then it has to be in because they do helping people, you know, around that need help.

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And back then, you know, people would thought, you know, you were nuts and we were nuts or whatever. But that's how mine started when I was 40 years old. So I've been doing it ever since.

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That is absolutely awesome. I found that so fascinating. I just had to have you tell our viewers about that because that's absolutely amazing.

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And I said it is on both sides of the family. And my mother came from a Quaker minister and her dad, you know, back in the days, they come with this and all that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And she had two other sisters that had the same ability plus her brothers. And they always said, now my mother's name was Evelyn. Evelyn and the family all have special gifts. They're okay. They're okay.

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And my grandfather, you know, Quaker minister, he was still a minister. But my dad's people, they just let it go. They just ran with it.

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They were very involved in that. Victoria and there are still spiritualist movements like shop. So like stances and tarot. All that stuff was normal.

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And I think that's a big one for us.

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I didn't encounter with as well as some very bad things in that house.

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That's a family member was dappled and they didn't end up well.

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I had a terrible I wanted to ask you, I know, getting into the like you just said about the house and what you said about that. I wanted to talk about the house you guys actually have right now that's in the battlefield area.

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Talk a little bit about that because that I find even more freaky because I couldn't imagine living in that situation.

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Okay. Well, this is their house.

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And like I was telling you before, is like a historical landmark and Amazon distribution center right there.

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And like I said, I was talking to you. Things are getting real crazy around here. It's like a free way for ghosts on this side of town.

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You know, you see that, you know, Confederate soldiers, looks like around here things, but it's always changing. It's never the same thing. It's always something different in your house like, I hear him saying mom stuff.

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I think you just serve those soldiers so much with building that building and all the energy that's used to function everything in that building. I just think it amplifies them.

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You know what I mean? He'll call it'll say Debbie and I'll say, what do you want? He said, what? I didn't you just call me? He said, no, I didn't say your name on the phone. Okay.

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So I have my hands like, hold on.

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In front of me, it's just they want your attention. Yeah.

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It'll stop while safe. Stop it. Yeah, I don't have time for this now.

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Yeah, no, that's what I normally do. I mean, I tell them.

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Yeah, that's every day here. Yeah, it's how it is in my house too. Like I recently just had this new girl that I'm like, I'm friends with and she came over the house and she saw a man in a white shirt, clear as day, solid as day.

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The other day while I'm in my room and she goes, who is that guy that just walked over to your door? I'm like, what are you talking about? And I come walking over to her. The guy was right there. What do you, you didn't see him?

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And I'm like, no, I said, don't worry about that though. I'm used to that. She's like, what are you talking about? I'm used to that. I said, oh, I forgot to tell you. I kind of do paranormal work.

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Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, welcome to the relation. We had a question from one of our viewers here. Nicole asked, have you guys ever seen a doppling gang or what kind of haunting would that be? You know, somebody that copies or mimics you.

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Have you, have you ever seen one? Yeah, actually the first time was that trans.

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We never dealt with it in like a private setting, but we had the first one.

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I turned like any number there. Gosh, what was that? Three months ago.

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Yeah. And she thought she saw me walking down the hallway and I was on the other side of the building and I thought I seen her go across and into the room. So it's like, that's, that's the best answer I got. Yeah, I've seen, we've seen it, but it was, it was in that setting.

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I've never dealt with it in like a private setting. I've dealt with like mimicking voices and stuff in private settings. Like people think they hear their husband or their wife.

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Have you ever been asking for a diet? Yeah, I've heard that before, but yeah, trans-allegacy was the first time actually we both have seen like where we thought it was us.

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It had the exact outfit Brian had on. It was walking down and I was like, hey Brian, wait, wait, wait. We're catching up with Brian. And I thought, why is he not turning around? He doesn't have a headset on or nothing.

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And then all of a sudden it was just gone. You know, I was like, okay, that wasn't my arm.

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But I think that the doppelganger stuff, it could fall into the realms of residual maybe, you know, and it's just like trying to grab onto something that is familiar to whoever's present at that moment.

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That's the best answer I can give.

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Oh yeah, definitely. I mean, like we said earlier, no one's really an expert because nobody really has all the answers. I mean, I died and I don't even have an answer.

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I can tell you what I've experienced. Exactly. That's all we can do.

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You know what, that's why I do this show is because it's to get people's experiences from other teams around the world because I put that research together with ours and I see what I can further my research in by learning from other people like yourselves that have many years of experience put together.

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So I love having people on like yourselves, especially to you guys who have something I've been looking for. Like I said, you guys in back, like, you know, family bond, like you guys have that connection. I'm doing as a family. I think it's just absolutely incredible.

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Absolutely.

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So keep it up. Yeah.

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I think they vibrate at that same frequency. So having a twice that frequency, you know, when you go into a location, I think that gives you more of an advantage to attract, you know, other spirits or whatnot.

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So something that we do like if we're at a private residence or like one of the attraction places or whatever you want to call it, it will take like a half an hour and we'll just set and meditate and try to, you know, with ourselves and the environment.

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Yeah. And we've learned that that works really well for us, you know, just no equipment, just the two of us and just tapping into whatever's going on around us.

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Yeah, with each other and say, did you have to, what did you say? What did I say? Yeah. And kind of say we've seen the same thing or not.

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Oh, that's cool. Yeah. I like that idea. I like that approach to it because having two people to it's good to bounce things off of each other as well like that.

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Because then if you do see something and that person did as well see something, then it's like, well, it wasn't just me. You know, so that's perfect.

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You know, and I don't believe that, you know, as an investigator, you technically I don't believe you technically have to go in with equipment to be an investigator because the best equipment we have is our bodies.

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Yeah, some of the best evidence I've caught was with my own eyes, you know, yeah.

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And the way this stuff happens is it's always like just a fraction of time. It's not like something that's yeah, for an hour. It's like a split second thing.

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It's always been like, oh, I didn't have my camera right here or anything like that. But I know that I saw it.

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I heard it or whatever. So sometimes even with the camera, though, and even the camera will pick it up because it's that quick. It's that quick. It's just fractions of time. Yeah.

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I was telling AJ, the beginning of last month, I all of a sudden, you know, from constantly meditating with frequencies and doing it every day.

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I'm starting to see black orbs like I'll just see orbs shoot around. And I'm like, oh, I can't catch that on camera. There's no way that anything.

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You're just getting tuned in to the frequency of nature. Yeah.

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Absolutely. So I wanted to bring up your guys, tick tock real quick. If any of our viewers want to check out esoteric reveals, check them out on on tick tock right now.

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I'm going to share my screen real quick and we'll bring it up. Make sure to click the audio slide so it will be in here.

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And this is Scout, by the way.

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He's my ghost hunting dog. He goes on ghosts.

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I was just about to bring yours up because I think I see it right on the first page of puppy right there.

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Let's bring her up.

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11 years old. She's been on probably five or six ghost hunts.

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But man, we just went to Airbnb where like the man was haunted and stuff like she just she had enough.

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And then I just like I'm going to go and get my dog down.

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Okay, so tell me what's the next one you would like me to go to and you can tell us a little bit about it.

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If you see any I can scroll down for you to mean running about like different things.

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That's what I do.

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this one. So, if you go down

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more, there's a lot of

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Gettysburg stuff. Oh yeah.

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Gettysburg, right here. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Oh, there's some

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ghost food stuff on there.

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Okay, let me try this one right

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here. It says, uh get haunted

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school, Gettysburg. Yeah,

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actually, there's nothing

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really on that one. We didn't

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catch anything on this one.

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Okay. Hold on. I'll get out of

407
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:49,800
the way. Oh, I did it.

408
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,560
Yeah. Gettysburg haunted. Oh,

409
00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:55,040
sorry. Gettysburg Murder House.

410
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:59,040
Yeah, that one wasn't really

411
00:37:55,100 --> 00:38:00,640
much. Okay. Now, that is the

412
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:02,840
murder house and stuff. That's

413
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:04,620
part of a ghost tour there in

414
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,320
Gettysburg. So, if anybody

415
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,820
wants to ever do that, it's

416
00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:09,420
really cool. It's really cool.

417
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,860
Yeah. I mean, let me check out

418
00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:20,400
the other one. Yeah, bro.

419
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,400
Yeah. Yeah, bro.

420
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:31,320
How many people are with you

421
00:38:28,220 --> 00:38:34,280
guys at this house? Um there

422
00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:38,260
were four. Four others. Oh,

423
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:40,460
wow. Now, see, give some

424
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,000
context to that. That's a, yeah,

425
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,080
that's a story of a house where

426
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,920
um a lady was murdered by her

427
00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:54,080
fiance. Oh, wow. And um she's

428
00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:55,880
quite young. Yeah. And she,

429
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,820
the story is real sad. Like,

430
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,020
the house, the door was like

431
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,620
shutting in that one. I

432
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,620
remember that one. Yeah.

433
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,200
Alright, so, that is that that's

434
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:10,500
absolutely crazy. Now, tell me

435
00:39:09,260 --> 00:39:11,940
though, how do you like using

436
00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:18,080
that? What do you guys think

437
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:20,080
about? See, I'm kind of like,

438
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,920
now, we're going to get into

439
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,920
the hard questions.

440
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:33,840
Word banks, man. It's like,

441
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:36,300
it's programs already with

442
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:39,780
words that you can create a

443
00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:45,780
program. I think say the Batman

444
00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:49,220
is coming. Uh we knock on walls.

445
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:51,720
We make noise in there like,

446
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,280
oh, wow. You know, it's it's

447
00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:56,720
say that. I mean, if I get like

448
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,260
an actual like response that

449
00:39:56,780 --> 00:40:02,020
correlates with exactly what's

450
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,760
going on. Which is very far

451
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:06,660
that far between like, I'm not

452
00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:11,980
sure if it's going to be

453
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,580
appropriate for you. It's I

454
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,680
want to buy. I told you. I

455
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,880
totally know where you're

456
00:40:15,740 --> 00:40:20,780
coming from. Hey, you haven't

457
00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:22,660
really understand. Sorry, go

458
00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:24,660
ahead. I was talking about ITC

459
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:26,660
stuff. Now, like the Geoports

460
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,660
and stuff like that, I can lean

461
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:32,660
a little bit more into that.

462
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:34,660
Yeah, the ITC apps. Yeah. but

463
00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:39,000
I'm not sure if it's Spirit

464
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:43,480
Talker, Necrometer, all those

465
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,480
things. It's like,

466
00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:47,680
Yeah, I know. We put a lot of

467
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,180
stock into it. There's only one

468
00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:52,280
I'll try and this is the reason

469
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:55,660
why I trust it. Uh II was using

470
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:59,660
Necrophonics. Yeah. I was I was

471
00:40:55,720 --> 00:41:02,200
live on on my phone and III

472
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:04,600
farted and I was live and I

473
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,440
was like, oh, I'm going to be

474
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,040
like, oh, I'm going to be like

475
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:12,540
five seconds later through the

476
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:15,140
necrophonics that said you

477
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:18,020
farted. So, that's the only one

478
00:41:15,220 --> 00:41:19,520
across. That's the only one.

479
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,020
Yeah. If you can get some crazy

480
00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:23,520
response like that, then you

481
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,220
got to really start to question

482
00:41:23,580 --> 00:41:28,620
it but I usually stick with

483
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:31,160
like the SB7s. Yeah. Yeah.

484
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:32,060
Yeah. Yeah. I'm always. Yeah.

485
00:41:31,220 --> 00:41:33,600
I was going to say, it's one of

486
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,080
the things that you know, the

487
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:38,680
Frank Sumption box way. The way

488
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:40,220
that now we know everything.

489
00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:41,620
Um now that we know everything

490
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,020
about the spirit box that we,

491
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,480
you know, need to know about it,

492
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,020
you know, like scanning radio

493
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,520
wise. Um it's such a great

494
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,560
thing but you know, these ITC

495
00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:50,020
apps that are coming out, I I

496
00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:53,400
do hate the fact that they're

497
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:55,300
called ITC apps because they're

498
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:56,900
not technically ITC. A lot of

499
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,360
these people are just making

500
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,340
money and just producing things

501
00:42:00,340 --> 00:42:05,840
that they don't know. You know,

502
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:08,880
like there's magic eight balls.

503
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:11,080
Yeah. Magic eight balls. Exactly.

504
00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:12,080
That's all it is really. Yeah.

505
00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:13,480
And that's why I won't spend

506
00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:15,180
money normally on an app like I

507
00:42:13,540 --> 00:42:17,680
I have Necrophonic. I've had a

508
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:19,180
lot of Keith Weldon's stuff. I

509
00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:20,620
mean, some of his stuff is

510
00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:22,060
absolutely amazing. Some of the

511
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,320
stuff I'm a little like eh but

512
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,320
I love Keith Weldon. He's a

513
00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:25,660
great guy. I know him and he's

514
00:42:24,380 --> 00:42:26,920
you know, he's a great person.

515
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,160
Um I know his heart's in the

516
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,700
right place. That's why I trust

517
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:32,080
him. I'm a huge fan of Hope

518
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,680
Paranormal. If you guys ever

519
00:42:32,140 --> 00:42:35,140
want to check out this one, it's

520
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:37,720
a free app. It's completely

521
00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:40,620
free. It's called the HSB dash

522
00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:42,660
one. The Hope Spirit Box dash

523
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,920
one. It's on iOS and Android

524
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:45,260
and basically what it is, it's

525
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:46,920
like having one of those um

526
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,600
portal devices but on your

527
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,420
phone. Yeah. So, you have a a

528
00:42:48,660 --> 00:42:52,660
slider that opens up the audio

529
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:56,260
gate and then what's what he

530
00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:58,100
put in the audio is um mixed up

531
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:02,100
with audio files that are mixed

532
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,600
up and like reversed and all

533
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,060
types of stuff so you can't get

534
00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:07,100
false positives and it's with

535
00:43:05,140 --> 00:43:08,600
audio that's just male, female

536
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,100
voices that are talking about

537
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,540
stuff that has nothing to do

538
00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:13,100
about paranormal. It could be

539
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,080
talking about whales, one audio

540
00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:15,980
clip, another audio clip that's

541
00:43:15,140 --> 00:43:17,140
reversed, can be talking about

542
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,580
other things. So, every time you

543
00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:20,020
open it, you're never getting

544
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,820
the same audio thing and I tell

545
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,180
you what, it's not an easy app

546
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,020
to get answers from. So, that's

547
00:43:23,260 --> 00:43:27,060
how you know in my opinion that

548
00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:29,440
it's not something that you

549
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:31,000
can use and I've seen my

550
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:32,480
friends use them. I mean, get

551
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,040
some absolutely stunning

552
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:35,680
responses with it and it's it's

553
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:37,920
great to see but it's not like

554
00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:38,940
a necrophonic, you know, just

555
00:43:37,980 --> 00:43:40,080
turn it on and hope that you're

556
00:43:39,020 --> 00:43:41,920
going to get some, you know,

557
00:43:40,140 --> 00:43:43,620
right? Yeah, I mean, we've had

558
00:43:41,980 --> 00:43:45,080
some pretty good responses. I'm

559
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,560
not I'm not going to crap on it

560
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,520
completely but I mean, oh no,

561
00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:51,060
me either, me either. Oh, no.

562
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,000
Yeah, but like, oh, with hope,

563
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,800
I'm familiar with his work and

564
00:43:53,060 --> 00:43:57,000
stuff and Steve Hoff and you

565
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,180
know, that's that's the real

566
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,880
ITC like format right there.

567
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,280
Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. A lot

568
00:44:04,940 --> 00:44:07,440
of people don't like Huff and

569
00:44:06,340 --> 00:44:08,880
it's amazing you said that

570
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,120
because I feel, I mean, he went

571
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:12,520
a little little bit of ways, I

572
00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:13,960
think away from his main goal

573
00:44:12,580 --> 00:44:15,920
in the beginning in my opinion

574
00:44:14,020 --> 00:44:17,560
but I still believe what he's

575
00:44:15,980 --> 00:44:19,020
doing is still something that

576
00:44:17,620 --> 00:44:21,520
is good for the field. Yeah, I

577
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:23,060
know. He's like you said, he

578
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,360
went a little off the rail a

579
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,700
little bit. You got nothing

580
00:44:29,540 --> 00:44:32,340
against the guy. No, me either.

581
00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:33,780
Yeah, I like him. I love to

582
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,340
have him on the show because I

583
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,420
love his positivity. That's

584
00:44:35,420 --> 00:44:37,640
what I love about his videos

585
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,240
and a lot of people I think

586
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,620
don't like it because they want

587
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,280
to see him tap into this darker

588
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,960
side because if you look at his

589
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,360
older videos when he was

590
00:44:44,020 --> 00:44:46,760
getting that dark stuff come

591
00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:48,360
through, his views were through

592
00:44:46,820 --> 00:44:49,500
the charts and now when he's

593
00:44:48,420 --> 00:44:50,720
doing all this positive stuff,

594
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,360
people don't want nothing to do

595
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,500
with it. It's so weird how that

596
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:58,820
is. It's like, you know, it's

597
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,480
getting weird. You know, being

598
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,280
scared is what sells. That's

599
00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:04,420
right. That's why every year,

600
00:45:02,340 --> 00:45:06,660
Hollywood has a demon movie or

601
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,620
an exorcist movie every every

602
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:10,060
single year. It's a conjuring

603
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,460
movie or something with the

604
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,820
demon because the fear sells

605
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,500
and that's that's what people

606
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:17,460
want is to feel scared, you

607
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,040
know? You're here. Yeah. They

608
00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:20,900
want to see fear do a real

609
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:23,500
exorcist because we have done

610
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:27,480
that. I mean, you would wish to

611
00:45:26,140 --> 00:45:28,840
be invited. I mean, it's not

612
00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:30,440
like Hollywood. I mean, it's

613
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,480
not like there's no like

614
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,980
problems or anything like

615
00:45:31,540 --> 00:45:38,120
that. It's very physical and

616
00:45:35,060 --> 00:45:42,120
like draining and emotional

617
00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:43,500
but yeah. I wanted to ask you

618
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,100
guys a question since you are

619
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,060
Native American Debbie, have

620
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,640
you ever had a case that is, I

621
00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:51,060
mean, we we both are Native

622
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:52,200
American technically but what I

623
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,060
wanted to ask you, have you

624
00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:56,600
ever had a case where you've

625
00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:59,400
dealt with Native American

626
00:45:56,660 --> 00:46:04,180
spirits? Yeah, sure. What is

627
00:45:59,460 --> 00:46:07,080
that like for you? It's kind of

628
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:09,240
hard because they don't

629
00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:11,280
understand what I'm doing. If

630
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,580
they don't have a language

631
00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:14,420
barrier because I speak

632
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,580
Cherokee, you know, and if

633
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,160
there's something else, you

634
00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:19,520
know, I have to go back and

635
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,900
try to get back to the

636
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,420
Native American spirit and then

637
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,600
there's some that will try to

638
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:29,200
come right towards me and I

639
00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:30,440
know what a squall is because

640
00:46:29,260 --> 00:46:33,440
that's what I've been called

641
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:35,040
before. Yeah. Yeah. If they

642
00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:36,500
come too close, then I have to,

643
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:37,940
you know, you gotta step back.

644
00:46:36,580 --> 00:46:39,540
You know, I I don't want this,

645
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,440
you know, back off, you know,

646
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,840
you know, I've had that happen

647
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,340
and I've heard Native American

648
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,380
music that I've never heard

649
00:46:49,380 --> 00:46:54,940
before where the Native

650
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,580
Americans buried. Well, my the

651
00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:58,380
way I was taught, you do not go

652
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,820
up around any burial ground

653
00:46:58,460 --> 00:47:01,380
being Native American interested

654
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,420
yourself. I'm sure you know if

655
00:47:01,460 --> 00:47:06,420
you don't have a family member

656
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,920
there and you know, you see

657
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:09,420
these people going up putting

658
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,600
blood on the tree hanging stuff

659
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:13,360
off of it's like, dude, you're

660
00:47:11,660 --> 00:47:14,760
getting yourself into a

661
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,000
territory that you're either

662
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,700
going to get hurt, get possessed

663
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:23,420
or you know, they can do what

664
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,620
they want to you. You know, I

665
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,020
see that that's rise into all

666
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,720
you to one word intention and

667
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,320
it involves intention. If you

668
00:47:31,780 --> 00:47:35,700
go, if you go over that tree

669
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,300
with love and light and pain,

670
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,500
respect to them, they're not

671
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,240
going to do anything to you. If

672
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,860
you go up there, hey, screw this

673
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:44,640
tree. I'm going to piss on it

674
00:47:42,940 --> 00:47:46,240
or whatever. You know, they're

675
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:50,540
going to do what they want to

676
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,220
do. I learned sign language.

677
00:47:50,620 --> 00:47:55,520
Uh you know, I know this means

678
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,920
friend in in in Indian and I

679
00:47:55,580 --> 00:47:59,520
that's what I do. I I I kneel

680
00:47:57,980 --> 00:48:01,960
on the ground and I say friend,

681
00:47:59,580 --> 00:48:04,160
you know, but I just always was

682
00:48:02,020 --> 00:48:06,660
taught you do not step on any

683
00:48:04,220 --> 00:48:08,100
land and yeah, I would never. I

684
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,760
would never personally because

685
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,800
I was taught that as well. You

686
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,100
know, boy, they're very, I will

687
00:48:11,860 --> 00:48:15,240
not go into one. It's just,

688
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,280
you know, I'm not going to be

689
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,960
with the family like. Yeah,

690
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,560
like I can get my grandmother,

691
00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:25,120
my grandmother, my aunt,

692
00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:27,120
everything, my dad, and my

693
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,360
aunt, and all that. Yeah, but

694
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,960
like he said, it's all about

695
00:48:28,420 --> 00:48:31,600
it. Yeah, it's all about it.

696
00:48:31,020 --> 00:48:32,560
Yeah, so of course, if you're

697
00:48:31,660 --> 00:48:34,560
if you're going to make a YouTube

698
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,140
video to get clicks and views

699
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,600
and be in a you're going to get

700
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,100
screwed. Yeah, you're going to

701
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,740
get screwed. You're going to get

702
00:48:40,180 --> 00:48:41,780
really I don't know who it was

703
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,780
but we watched one of them where

704
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,240
they went up there and they put

705
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:48,120
a can of worms in there. Oh my

706
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,720
god. Yeah, you just totally

707
00:48:48,180 --> 00:48:51,820
open a can of worms. Yeah, you

708
00:48:50,780 --> 00:48:55,060
go open a can of worms. You

709
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:58,520
don't even know. Yeah. It might

710
00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:00,020
not affect you immediately but

711
00:48:58,580 --> 00:49:01,300
they they're going to latch on

712
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:02,600
to you and they're going to

713
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,660
screw with your life for the

714
00:49:02,660 --> 00:49:07,240
next year. Yeah. You know, your

715
00:49:05,740 --> 00:49:09,240
whole family and loved ones,

716
00:49:07,300 --> 00:49:10,740
you know, they're not. It gets

717
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:12,040
serious. It really does. You

718
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,240
know, it's funny that we see

719
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:14,080
John just said that. He said

720
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,860
that's what happened right at

721
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,560
once. He's so right because

722
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,020
when I had when I before I was

723
00:49:18,620 --> 00:49:21,920
into the whole paranormal, I

724
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,420
was like fifteen years old and

725
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,500
I challenged the Ouija board. I

726
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:25,600
didn't believe in anything. I

727
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,660
didn't believe in god. I

728
00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:28,200
blamed nothing and I challenge

729
00:49:26,740 --> 00:49:29,800
this Ouija board like an idiot

730
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:31,040
kid and we watched this out of

731
00:49:29,860 --> 00:49:32,000
fifteen kids in the room. It was

732
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:33,800
just me and my friend Eric on

733
00:49:32,060 --> 00:49:35,040
the board. We watched the

734
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,500
planchette move with our

735
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:38,440
fingers off of the planchette

736
00:49:36,580 --> 00:49:40,040
spell out mom which I asked who

737
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:41,920
killed you and it says spelled

738
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,020
out mom and it was technically

739
00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:47,060
me. I didn't believe it was and

740
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,460
I didn't believe it of course

741
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,560
because I was stupid and naive.

742
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,020
I knew nothing about what I was

743
00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:54,060
doing so I challenged it. Well,

744
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:56,260
what happened? It took a little

745
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,140
while but it broke me down

746
00:49:56,340 --> 00:50:00,040
mentally very slowly and to the

747
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,900
point where I literally ended

748
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:03,380
up in the hospital at a mental

749
00:50:01,980 --> 00:50:05,280
breakdown at sixteen years old.

750
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,040
I was my whole attitude had

751
00:50:05,340 --> 00:50:08,540
changed towards my family. I

752
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:09,540
was screaming in my

753
00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:10,840
grandparents' faces. People who

754
00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:12,420
I loved and called my mother and

755
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,980
father my whole life like it

756
00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:17,620
was a terrible situation which

757
00:50:15,580 --> 00:50:18,960
this was an ongoing thing that

758
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,360
went on and II believe it was

759
00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:21,860
because of my disrespect and

760
00:50:20,420 --> 00:50:23,220
I've learned very quickly that

761
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,400
that is not the way to go about

762
00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:29,100
things. You get the energy you

763
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:30,200
put out. So, if you're a

764
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,660
positive person and you want to

765
00:50:30,260 --> 00:50:33,100
help people and you're there

766
00:50:31,740 --> 00:50:34,240
for good intentions, you're

767
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,600
going to get it back but if

768
00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:36,940
you're going to be a dick,

769
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:38,500
you're going to be whatever you

770
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,840
are in life, you're going to be

771
00:50:38,580 --> 00:50:42,240
this negative person. Guess

772
00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:43,380
what? That that's going to

773
00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:46,200
be the way to go about it.

774
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:48,600
AJ's help and through

775
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,340
meditation and stuff is is it's

776
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,720
all about your intentions.

777
00:50:50,420 --> 00:50:54,280
That's the number one thing

778
00:50:52,780 --> 00:50:56,820
that I know. Yes, definitely.

779
00:50:54,340 --> 00:50:58,180
Couldn't say it better. Yeah.

780
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,320
Oh, guys. Thank you so much. I

781
00:50:58,260 --> 00:51:00,420
really appreciate you guys

782
00:50:59,380 --> 00:51:01,260
coming on. Hopefully, we can

783
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,560
get you guys to come back on

784
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,120
again. I'd love to have you

785
00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:05,920
come back again. Yeah, that's

786
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,660
cool. Thank you guys so much.

787
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,500
Thank you. It was so great to

788
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:12,300
meet you. Yeah, you too. All

789
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:15,380
right. Thank you so much again,

790
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,740
Debbie and Ryan. It was so

791
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,540
great to meet you guys and

792
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,740
anyone that needs any paranormal

793
00:51:18,620 --> 00:51:23,220
help, please see visit Debbie

794
00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:25,320
and Ryan at Esoteric Reveals at

795
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,780
Gmail.com. You can contact them.

796
00:51:25,380 --> 00:51:29,020
They are in the Virginia

797
00:51:26,860 --> 00:51:31,320
Norfolk area. Um so, go check

798
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,720
them out. Um check them out on

799
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,300
on TikTok like we just did and

800
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,860
and follow them and if you need

801
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,560
to hit them up, they're here to

802
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,900
help. So, you guys are great

803
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,300
people. Please keep up the

804
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:44,940
good work. Thank you. Thank

805
00:51:42,780 --> 00:51:48,120
you. God bless you. God bless

806
00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:52,020
you. Alright, take care. Bye.

807
00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:52,020
Bye bye.

808
00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:56,720
Dude. Wow. That was awesome.

809
00:51:54,380 --> 00:51:58,220
Like we were we were all in

810
00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:59,420
sync. We were just talking

811
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,300
about everything, man. Like like

812
00:51:59,500 --> 00:52:02,420
I loved it. Yeah. Like that's

813
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,860
what I love about our show. We

814
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:05,660
just don't. There's no script.

815
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,100
We just we're just friends

816
00:52:05,740 --> 00:52:08,500
talking. It's just fun, man,

817
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,440
you know? And what I love about

818
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,100
it too, man is like especially

819
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:14,740
with a person who has family

820
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:16,580
that is part of Native American

821
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,540
culture which I found so

822
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,840
absolutely amazing because

823
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,780
these are the type of things

824
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,480
that I want to I will Todd

825
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,520
definitely. These are the type

826
00:52:23,540 --> 00:52:25,980
of things that I want to

827
00:52:24,580 --> 00:52:26,980
explore on this show. More

828
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,420
different types of religions,

829
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:30,960
more different types of things

830
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,360
to show, you know, people and

831
00:52:31,020 --> 00:52:34,120
viewers that there's other

832
00:52:32,420 --> 00:52:35,120
things in in life to

833
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,120
experience, to see, to try, to

834
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,560
new, you know, and all types of

835
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,660
things and that's just, you

836
00:52:38,620 --> 00:52:40,760
know, just about growing, you

837
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,520
know, the intention of my

838
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,960
intention is for this show. I

839
00:52:43,580 --> 00:52:48,760
think I think what I love about

840
00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:50,200
our show, dude, is that Ghost

841
00:52:48,820 --> 00:52:52,760
Adventures is full of ****

842
00:52:50,260 --> 00:52:54,760
dude. Like all paranormal is

843
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,800
not **** bad. Like they're like

844
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,500
there's like I'm just saying,

845
00:52:56,860 --> 00:53:01,040
dude, like it's it's a whole

846
00:52:59,580 --> 00:53:03,040
another world. You have to

847
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:04,400
accept it that something

848
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:07,080
happens. You know, our energy

849
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,680
just doesn't die. You know,

850
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:10,720
there there, you gotta tune into

851
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:14,100
that. Thank you, man. I can't

852
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,700
thank you enough for turning me

853
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,460
on to that. I know I was so

854
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,000
skeptical in the beginning and

855
00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:22,000
I now look at you, dude. I'm

856
00:53:20,060 --> 00:53:23,200
just like I was too, man, and

857
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,640
I'm proud to see how far you've

858
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,140
come and what you've done, man,

859
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:27,180
and I can't wait to see what

860
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,140
happens again. Thank you guys

861
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:30,720
all for joining the show today.

862
00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:32,880
I appreciate every single one

863
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:34,120
of you. Chris, he's crazy, man.

864
00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:37,520
He's, you don't even know.

865
00:53:34,180 --> 00:53:37,520
49ers.

866
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,580
I'm not going to lie, but uh I

867
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,520
tell you what, thank you guys

868
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,020
so much though for enjoying us

869
00:53:41,580 --> 00:53:44,480
for this amazing episode with

870
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,680
Debbie and Ryan from Esoteric

871
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,960
Reveals. Make sure if you need

872
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,720
to reach out to them, you reach

873
00:53:47,020 --> 00:53:50,060
out to Esoteric Reveals at

874
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,160
Gmail.com. It's right below in

875
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,500
the little ticker. So, make

876
00:53:52,220 --> 00:53:54,860
sure you hit them up and make

877
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,160
sure you follow them on Tick

878
00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:57,540
Tock and hit them up over there

879
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,960
and just tell them that you saw

880
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,240
them on talking with the source

881
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,900
and I'm sure they would love to

882
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:03,440
say hello and and reach out. So,

883
00:54:01,980 --> 00:54:04,640
they're great people and we

884
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,240
can't thank you guys enough.

885
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:09,420
Thank you for watching this

886
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:13,260
episode of Talking with the

887
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:16,160
Source. Yeah. Yeah. There we

888
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,720
go. Alright. Anyway, have a

889
00:54:16,220 --> 00:54:19,820
good Super Bowl Sunday

890
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,160
everybody and everyone go check

891
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:24,340
out Para Post Network Central

892
00:54:22,220 --> 00:54:27,440
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893
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:41,440
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