1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000 What? 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Yeah! 3 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,000 What's going on everybody? 4 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:26,480 My name is AJ Capasso, host of Talking With The Source. 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:32,880 I'm here with my best friend and host, Jonathan Kieworth of JK47 Paranormal Investigations. 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Hi, Christina Bell. 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,320 Thank you so much for being with us. 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,200 We're going to have an amazing show today. 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,680 Buddy, what is going on? 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Not much, brother. 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,280 Just, uh, just living life, man. 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,280 Awesome man. 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,280 Awesome. 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,540 Well, we have a great show today. 15 00:00:48,540 --> 00:00:52,920 We have Emmy McKenzie from PDX Paranormal. 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Can't wait to bring her forward. 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,840 I'm going to bring her on right now. 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:56,840 What's up, Chris? 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,840 How you been? 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,840 Hey, Emmy, how are you? 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Hey, what's up? 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Hi guys. 23 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,840 How you been? 24 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,840 I've been doing pretty good. 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,840 Been busy. 26 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,840 Trying to keep busy. 27 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,840 Look at that. 28 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,920 We got some amazing people coming in. 29 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,920 Hey, Christina. 30 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Hey Beth. 31 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Welcome. 32 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,920 So, and then on the other side, we got Chris and huh? 33 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:17,920 Yeah. 34 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:18,920 I wanted to ask you. 35 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:19,920 I can't keep up with these comments. 36 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:20,920 I know, right? 37 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Just wait. 38 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Hey, Chris. 39 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,920 I know. 40 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,920 Hey Suzette, how are you? 41 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,400 Um, so I wanted to ask you, you have an awesome getup behind you right now. 42 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,920 You got some skulls, you got, you know, like a panda bear. 43 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,920 I mean, you're rocking right now. 44 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,920 Did you guys know that? 45 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,920 I got a fish right here. 46 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,920 No. 47 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,920 Is it? 48 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,920 Oh, that is sick. 49 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Oh, that is so cool. 50 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Oh, I need to get me one of them. 51 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,920 That is, that is the coolest skull I've ever seen. 52 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:52,920 Yeah. 53 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,920 I got that. 54 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,920 I got clowns. 55 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,920 Um, I got dolls. 56 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,920 Uh-uh. 57 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,920 Oh, the real. 58 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,920 I got me one of them. 59 00:01:58,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Looks like the Annabelle doll. 60 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:00,920 The real. 61 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,920 Yeah. 62 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:02,920 Yep. 63 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,920 Oh, he's got one. 64 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,920 Right on. 65 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Oh, see? 66 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Look at that, you guys. 67 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,920 We got dolls. 68 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Doll time. 69 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:11,920 I got a couple haunted dolls. 70 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:12,920 Um, yeah. 71 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:21,920 Wow. 72 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:23,920 See, I'm out of the loop here. 73 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:24,920 I don't have no dolls. 74 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:25,920 I don't know. 75 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:27,920 I got, I got big bad Bob here. 76 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:31,920 Big bad Bob went on all my investigations with me. 77 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:32,920 Here's this one. 78 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:33,920 Let me move that. 79 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:35,920 That looks like he stole from your daughter's like room. 80 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:36,920 Like that's. 81 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:37,920 She gave it to me. 82 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:39,920 She said, dad, I'm going to get you a doll. 83 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:42,920 She said, dad, this will keep you safe on your investigations. 84 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:43,920 That's cool. 85 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:44,920 There you go. 86 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:48,920 So this doll, I got free off of marketplace. 87 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:52,920 So, whoa, this is. 88 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:53,920 Oh, wow. 89 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:54,920 Yeah. 90 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:56,920 Turn of the century. 91 00:02:56,920 --> 00:03:01,920 And it's filled with like, Hey, the head is, it's not ceramic. 92 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:04,920 It's, um, 93 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:09,920 Oh God, what is clay? 94 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:10,920 The head is clay. 95 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:11,920 Oh yeah. 96 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:12,920 Wow. 97 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:14,920 You see how the whole dolls put together. 98 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:18,920 So I had asked her, 99 00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:20,920 she had it sitting on the porch when I showed up. 100 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:21,920 So that was kind of creepy itself. 101 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:22,920 Just sitting there on the porch. 102 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:24,920 You know, just waiting. 103 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:25,920 And she come outside. 104 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:27,920 I'd asked her, I'm like, 105 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:28,920 why you get rid of the doll? 106 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:29,920 She was, well, 107 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:34,920 she goes, I brought it back with me from Lansing, Michigan, about two or three years ago. 108 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,920 She said, and, um, I said, okay. 109 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,920 I'm like, so why you get rid of it? 110 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,920 She got it at an estate cell. 111 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,920 So that should tell you something there too. 112 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,920 I had plans to do something like fix it up or something. 113 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,920 She goes, but the dogs just started creeping me out. 114 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,920 I'm like, cool. 115 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:54,920 And we started to do it. 116 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,920 And I was like, oh, 117 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,920 I'm like, cool. 118 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,920 And we started to do a spirit box session with the doll, 119 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,920 but somebody was in there. 120 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:11,920 Adventures with Beth was in there and her family started coming through and her family is German. 121 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,920 And so there was on my spirit box, 122 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,920 there was German speaking and it was her family. 123 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,920 So I was like, 124 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,920 I got to do another spirit box session with this one. 125 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,920 And if it comes back, 126 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,920 I'm going to do a little German thing. 127 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Then I'm going to give this doll the bath because it would rightfully be hers. 128 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,920 Considering the family. 129 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,920 Well, my question is like, 130 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,920 how were you able to verify that it was speaking actual German through the spirit box? 131 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,920 Your friend speaks German. 132 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,920 Yes. 133 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,920 Now what happens? 134 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,920 Now what happens if you, 135 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,920 do you have to show her this? 136 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,920 Like say, if you do a spirit box session, 137 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,920 would you have to show her it because of obviously it's speaking in German. 138 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,920 If it does it again, 139 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,920 would you have to show her it to like translate it? 140 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,920 Yeah. 141 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:57,920 Yes. 142 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,920 I would have her there to see, 143 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:00,920 you know, 144 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:01,920 if it is. 145 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:02,920 No, 146 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,920 that's a great experiment to try out. 147 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,920 But I've never heard German come across my spirit box. 148 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,920 Yeah. 149 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,920 No, 150 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:10,920 no, 151 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,920 I've never heard it. 152 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,920 That was the craziest thing. 153 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,920 Yeah. 154 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,920 That reminds me of my Bruce Lee session I did. 155 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,920 Like I took Chinese in high school and I said, 156 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,920 Bruce, can you, can you say hello in Chinese? 157 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,920 And he said, 158 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:24,920 ni hao. 159 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:25,920 And I was like, 160 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:26,920 yeah. 161 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Nice. 162 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,920 Nice. 163 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:29,920 That's so cool. 164 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,920 So tell me, 165 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:31,920 I mean, 166 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,920 how did you get into the paranormal? 167 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,920 I know I've asked you this on a personal level and stuff like that. 168 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:36,920 Let me ask you on the show, 169 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,920 how did you get into the paranormal and what got you into it? 170 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,920 Well, 171 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,920 pretty much my hometown I grew up in. 172 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,920 And I grew up in the city of Oregon. 173 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,920 And I grew up in the city of Oregon. 174 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,920 And that's where a lot of the. 175 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Gold mining was happening in the gold dredge and stuff like that. 176 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,920 So. 177 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,920 You know how people get when there's gold around back in the day. 178 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:03,920 Gold fever. 179 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:04,920 Yep. 180 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:05,920 And. 181 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,920 So. 182 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,920 There's a lot like. 183 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,920 There was a lot of tunnels under the town. 184 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,920 This is a small town population, 185 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,920 10,000 small town, 186 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,920 but there was tunnels everywhere. 187 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,920 And when they were pulling up the history. 188 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,920 Because of the gold rush and stuff like that. 189 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,920 They had. 190 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,920 Chinese men that would be, 191 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:31,920 you know, 192 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Do the hard labor work for them. 193 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,920 Yeah. 194 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,920 But just a lot of killings, 195 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,920 a lot of logging. 196 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,920 Log. 197 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,920 Log. 198 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,920 Lot of negativity. 199 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,920 I feel like I'm starting to. 200 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:45,920 Flurp up here. 201 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,920 A lot of negativity going on because of how many people. 202 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,920 Was killed there. 203 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Just everything going on. 204 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,920 So pretty much any house you were in for the most part. 205 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,920 You could feel something. 206 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,920 There was something there. 207 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:03,920 I was reading comments. 208 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:04,920 Hold on. 209 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,920 I'm sorry. 210 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,920 I got to stop reading comments. 211 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,920 I'm sorry. 212 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,920 So. 213 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,920 My first experience. 214 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,920 I can actually remember that was very. 215 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,920 I want to say. 216 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Yeah. 217 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Something that I will never forget. 218 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,920 You know, 219 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,920 I probably had other experiences when I was younger seeing stuff, 220 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:29,920 but this one. 221 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Back in the day. 222 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,920 We were able to babysit at the age of nine. 223 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:34,920 So, I mean. 224 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:35,920 Wow. 225 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,920 That's a good one. 226 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:38,920 I was in the age of nine. 227 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,920 That's where the saying. 228 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,920 Not a China man's chance. 229 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Came from. 230 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Was from the China man. 231 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,920 China. 232 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,920 Men mining. 233 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,920 Because they would hang them over the cliffs or go into the caves and 234 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,920 they would be the ones to ignite the dynamite. 235 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Okay. Yes. See. 236 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:56,920 Okay. 237 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,920 I don't even know that. Yeah. 238 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:14,920 I think I know what you're talking about. 239 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Oh, it happened in something. Oregon. 240 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:17,920 It was a paranormal show. 241 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Haunted caves or something like that, or. 242 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,920 I think I know what you're talking about. 243 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,920 I forgot the name of the show, but I. 244 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,920 I know what you're talking about. 245 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,920 It was caves. 246 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,920 It was a show. 247 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Paranormal. 248 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,920 It was a show. 249 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:30,920 It was a show. 250 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,920 It was a show. 251 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,920 And they had a series of that. 252 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,920 Wow. 253 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,920 So what, what happened to me? 254 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:37,920 When I was babysitting. 255 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,920 This little girl, she was. 256 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:45,920 I must say like four. 257 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,920 And she would always tell me that there was a guy standing in the corner. 258 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,920 And he's talking to her and, you know, nine years old, I'm like, 259 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,920 Oh, I can't see him. 260 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:53,920 I'm like, okay. 261 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,920 If you say so. 262 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,920 And she goes. 263 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:58,920 I'm like, where's this lady? 264 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,920 And she said in the basement. 265 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Well, their basement was, you know, 266 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,920 the dirt floor and those rock kind of walls, like you had to dig. 267 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,920 To make that basement. 268 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,920 But in that house. 269 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 The father was a drummer. 270 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,920 And we, we would hear tapping. 271 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,920 On the drum. 272 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,920 Like that. 273 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Going there is like nothing. 274 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,920 There's nothing on the floor. 275 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:28,920 That was all the way down. 276 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,920 The roof. 277 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:30,920 And the time that. 278 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Stove would turn on. 279 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,920 And the crazy and scary thing about this, it was a gas stove. 280 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,920 I was just about to. 281 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Yeah. 282 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,920 That was scary. 283 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,920 Or just the gas becoming out. 284 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:47,920 It would be lit. 285 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,920 So it's. 286 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:49,920 Yeah, that's freakier. 287 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,920 And, 288 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,920 Well, 289 00:09:53,920 --> 00:10:02,240 Then you would hear tapping on the cymbals and the other crazy thing was it was across 290 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,940 the street from a cemetery. 291 00:10:03,940 --> 00:10:05,320 So of course, you know. 292 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:13,180 So this is going to be the first time I'm telling this story, the entire story because 293 00:10:13,180 --> 00:10:17,120 what had happened because that little girl, her name was Krishna, I will never forget 294 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:23,080 that, would constantly to her parents talk about this lady that's hurt and she needs 295 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,880 help and she's in the basement. 296 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:31,320 So my mom at the time, my biological mom at the time and you know the family, they're 297 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,560 like, you know, let's go in the basement, try to figure out. 298 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:36,840 So hello everybody coming in. 299 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:43,080 They had dug through like the dirt brick walls or not brick, but it was the dirt and the 300 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,820 rock walls and stuff. 301 00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:50,360 And I guess behind there they found a boarded up door that, you know, big enough to where 302 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,240 you can crawl into. 303 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,240 Yeah. 304 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:58,200 So then the cops get involved because there were bones that were found. 305 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,360 Oh wow. 306 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:05,240 So there was definitely some fall play, you think? 307 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,240 Yeah. 308 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,400 And you know, that, that went on for like a year or so before they even said, Hey, let's 309 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,400 go check down the basement. 310 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,400 But yeah, that's what happened there. 311 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,960 And then that's kind of terrifying. 312 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,000 You know what I mean? 313 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Yeah. 314 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,080 From what you experienced and then find out the bones are found and then you know, you're 315 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,080 not crazy. 316 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,080 And it's like, you know, no one will believe me. 317 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,080 Crazy. 318 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,080 Am I crazy? 319 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,080 Are we all crazy? 320 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Cause back in the day that stuff was shunned. 321 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,080 You didn't speak of it because you were crazy. 322 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,400 How old were you when that happened? 323 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,400 I was nine. 324 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Wow. 325 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,400 That's what I'm saying. 326 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,400 I like your memories that good. 327 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,400 It's like your memory. 328 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,400 With something like that. 329 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,400 Yes it is, babe. 330 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Yeah. 331 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Right. 332 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,400 Right. 333 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,280 I tell you, that's something I would not forget. 334 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:54,040 But, so tell me like, how'd you get PBX started and how'd you get into investigating? 335 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,280 Like I know did you go, you obviously went through a multiple events and throughout your 336 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,480 life, but what got you into actual investigating? 337 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,480 Okay. 338 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:12,480 So when I said to get married, have a family, I want to put the investigation, you know, 339 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,360 part on hold. 340 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,920 And before I even did that, I would go out and investigate, but I guess it was a different 341 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,920 type of investigation. 342 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,400 We didn't have the radios and stuff like that that we have nowadays. 343 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:30,160 It was just basically you got to listen and hear things and you know, and they really 344 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,800 did speak to you and communicate to you, whether you had something or not, electronic device 345 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,520 or not. 346 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,040 The Polaroid cameras back then, the best. 347 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,040 Yeah. 348 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,040 That's what I use. 349 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,040 I still use it. 350 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,040 The best. 351 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,040 The best. 352 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:53,320 I got pictures of when we were in the hotel room, staying at the grand hotel, which is 353 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,320 very haunted. 354 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,320 Huh? 355 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Yeah. 356 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,080 It's, it's very haunted. 357 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:04,040 You can Google that the grand hotel and that's one of the hotspots in Oregon. 358 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,080 That's my hometown. 359 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:12,200 Jay and I got pictures of, you can see the orbs just, he's standing like right in the 360 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,400 middle and that's one of the hotels where a lot of the men would come in during the 361 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,080 gold rush times and stuff to stay in that hotel. 362 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,880 Cause there was a hotel bar, um, very high in energy. 363 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Yeah. 364 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:31,600 But so when I decide it's time to settle down, get married, I didn't want all this stuff 365 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,120 to kind of move over into my family. 366 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,680 I just wanted to put it back on the back shelf. 367 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:42,040 Um, but that didn't help. 368 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,560 It still decided to come through. 369 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:51,560 Um, so when Jay and I bought this house, this is crazy. 370 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:58,360 Jay and I bought this house and, um, for the first five years, like we've sat in the other 371 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,920 living room and I don't know if you guys seen him live, you'd see the TV behind him, but 372 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,840 the couch we sit there, watch TV, but there's a hallway right there. 373 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:12,600 And once in a while I would see the shadow kind of come peeking around the hallway and 374 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,600 then go like that. 375 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,600 And so, you know what I do? 376 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,720 I'm yelling at the kids, go to bed. 377 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,720 You know, that's what I was thinking. 378 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:27,480 It was about the kid hype and, uh, I guess Jay had saw the same thing for the first five 379 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,480 years. 380 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,480 I'd need a drink. 381 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,480 That's it. 382 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,040 I'm just waking up. 383 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:39,440 And so one day we were sitting in the living room, watching a movie, being all relaxed 384 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,120 and we were kids free. 385 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:48,240 So there was nobody in the house and, uh, all of a sudden something caught my, out of 386 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,280 my peripheral vision. 387 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,000 I looked over there and I looked back and Jay goes, what'd you see? 388 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,480 I'm like, nothing. 389 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,720 He goes, no, what did you see? 390 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,720 I'm like, nothing. 391 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,720 He goes, I'm going to show you what you saw. 392 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,680 And he goes over there and he mimics it. 393 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,240 And of course, now I'm trying to pick my jaw up off the floor. 394 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,400 I'm like, how do you know? 395 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,960 He goes, I see the same thing. 396 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,840 I'm like, no, it goes. 397 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,840 Yeah. 398 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,840 So there's that. 399 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Um, all my kids are gifted. 400 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:29,080 Um, I have one kid I found out, um, he was, uh, like 15, 16 when he told me, um, he can 401 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,080 astral project. 402 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,080 I'm like, what? 403 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,520 You didn't tell me this earlier. 404 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,800 He was, well, I thought you thought I was going to be crazy. 405 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,800 I'm like, no. 406 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,600 So he's an astral project. 407 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,080 He gets into a lot of that. 408 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,080 Wow. 409 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,520 That's an amazing gift to have. 410 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,520 I've done it once. 411 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,520 I'm jealous. 412 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,160 John and me have been talking about it a lot lately and he actually did it. 413 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,280 And he's like, dude, it was so terrifying. 414 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,320 And like, I was like, yeah, it is when you're not used to it. 415 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,320 It's definitely terrifying. 416 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,320 Yeah. 417 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:11,280 So there's that, um, and at a time, uh, Ozzy was at a football game or he played football 418 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,040 and we had to go out of town to that game. 419 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,560 And I had my daughter Cheyenne and her friend Mercedes and they were cheerleaders. 420 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,260 So we had to get them to the game because you know, football players go out first in 421 00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:23,260 practice and stuff. 422 00:16:23,260 --> 00:16:28,840 So, um, here in Portland, there's, there's like 13 bridges you got to go across to get, 423 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:35,760 we had to go to Hillsborough and the bridge we were going across was, um, Fairmont, Fremont, 424 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,500 Fremont bridge. 425 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:40,900 And it was during rush hour. 426 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:46,500 There's like five lanes and I was in the fast lane. 427 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:52,100 And as you're coming up over the bridge, it kind of like turns like that, you know, gradually. 428 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:58,600 So the cars were going by so fast and I'm coming up and then all of a sudden I see this 429 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,400 car, the traffic had come to a complete stop. 430 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:09,720 And I'm like, Oh my God, I had three choices, turn off and go into the river, which that 431 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:19,040 one, this person, and that would have been a hard hit or cut into traffic. 432 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:26,600 And I honestly think my guardian angel was there because we all screamed as I turned, 433 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,920 my eyes were shut. 434 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:35,640 We screamed, opened up our eyes and there was no traffic. 435 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,400 And it was just going like that. 436 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,120 Passing by passing by. 437 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:44,460 But then, so the next day I get a call from my other son who wasn't with us. 438 00:17:44,460 --> 00:17:47,600 We didn't tell anybody about that story. 439 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:52,360 He's like, mom, I had a really bad nightmare yesterday. 440 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:53,360 I'm like, what? 441 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:54,360 What do you mean? 442 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:57,400 He goes, I had a really bad nightmare. 443 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,280 He goes, you, you and dad are okay, right? 444 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,280 I'm like, yeah, we're fine. 445 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,280 I'm like, what's it about? 446 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,800 He goes, I woke up screaming. 447 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,080 I'm like, what happened? 448 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Wow. 449 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,660 He said he goes, I had a dream. 450 00:18:11,660 --> 00:18:17,800 You and dad and Cheyenne went off the bridge going to Portland. 451 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,580 Yes. 452 00:18:20,580 --> 00:18:23,200 And I'm like, okay, this is a little creepy. 453 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,360 I asked him, I go, who was driving? 454 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:31,440 He goes, dad was like, okay. 455 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:37,400 And I explained to him, I was driving and I'm thinking that's probably what saved us 456 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,400 too, because Jay was going to drive. 457 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,800 I'm like, no, let me drive. 458 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,800 I can get us there. 459 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,800 You know, so 460 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,800 Well, thank you, Laura. 461 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,040 It was right in line. 462 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,040 Oh my gosh. 463 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,120 And then him telling you that, that is why we can't scream. 464 00:18:51,120 --> 00:19:00,840 We're thinking when we screamed that projected, you know, no, the dad wasn't driving. 465 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,240 The dad was going to drive. 466 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Yes. 467 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,840 The dad was supposed to drive, but I decided to drive. 468 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Thanks a lot. 469 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,200 See, it's so crazy how those little synchronicities line up. 470 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Yeah. 471 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,600 And that's what goes to show like that is what I try to tell people. 472 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,920 That's how the spirit world reaches out is through those synchronicities. 473 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,360 It may be as small as a dime or as big as a feather. 474 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:25,880 Like it could be multiple things or as big as a billboard. 475 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,960 I mean, flat out in your face. 476 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,320 I mean, my dad used to get his answers that way sometimes. 477 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,560 So I mean, he needed to smack that in his face for him to understand. 478 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,640 So yeah, that's, that's like when I was in Iraq and, and I heard that voice say, whatever 479 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,880 you do, don't go on this mission. 480 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:50,960 And, and I, I was all by myself and I heard that voice and, and I said, you know what, 481 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,120 sorry, I, I can't go on this mission. 482 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:58,600 And I took radio guard and that's when a car bomb killed three of my friends. 483 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,600 So 484 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:05,480 that is tough because it's a gift and a curse at the same time. 485 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,480 You know, 486 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,480 Yeah. 487 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,480 Yeah. 488 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,320 But that was, and then we have other experiences here. 489 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,240 It's not your show. 490 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,200 I gotta let the dog out. 491 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,320 Hold on. 492 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,320 That's funny. 493 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,120 Looks like a French bulldog. 494 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:27,120 Yeah. 495 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:28,120 English bulldogs. 496 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:29,120 English bulldogs. 497 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:30,120 English bulldog. 498 00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:38,400 But Lily's ears stick up like a Frenchie's, but she doesn't have the bat shape. 499 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,840 Her ears aside. 500 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,680 They didn't want to stay down. 501 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,480 I got three of mine down here. 502 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,640 They're sleeping on the couch. 503 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,600 So let me ask you this. 504 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,840 So I know you have more experiences to tell us about, about this house that you're in 505 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,560 now, but let me ask you, you just had on David Oman, right? 506 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,880 Or was it David Oman and who was, who was the other person that I just saw? 507 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,920 John O's Zuna. 508 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,920 That's his last. 509 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,920 Okay. 510 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,920 That's how you say his name. 511 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,040 He is an amazing actor, stuff like that. 512 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:16,320 But I know I saw him on another show and he was just the nicest guy ever. 513 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,920 How was it to first interview him? 514 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,800 Oh, he is an amazing guy. 515 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,440 Very sweet down to earth. 516 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:33,800 And when I met him in person and when it comes to people, he's, he's all for the people. 517 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:42,280 He's all for, like when I saw him at the fair fast and signing autographs with these kids, 518 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,280 it's all about the kids. 519 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:51,480 He's also a martial arts champion and teacher and, you know, very down to earth. 520 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,480 He very humble. 521 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,960 I guess that would be the word. 522 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,480 You know, definitely I would recommend definitely this guy. 523 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,720 If anybody wants to interview him, definitely do that. 524 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,920 He also said anybody who wants an autograph picture, just reach out to him and he'll send 525 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,920 it to you. 526 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,920 I mean, who does that? 527 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,160 That's amazing. 528 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,120 Somebody that's connected with his spirit, you know, and just nothing matters. 529 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:24,680 You're, you're in living in the now, you know, he's, yeah, he's a real major. 530 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,680 Yep. 531 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,680 Yeah. 532 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,080 That's great to see because you don't see a lot of, you know, actors, stuff like that, 533 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,240 that really care about the people that really make them who they are. 534 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,640 You know, it's all about the fans, you know? 535 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:44,160 So, but tell me, so you're, so David Oman, what was that like? 536 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,920 David Oman, he's a great guy. 537 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,880 I've talked to him behind the scenes and stuff. 538 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,080 My husband ended up taking him down that rabbit hole. 539 00:22:53,080 --> 00:23:00,040 And when that happens, the guy gets all crazy, but he, you want somebody who's straight forward 540 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:06,320 who will tell you how it is, that would be the guy to have as an interview. 541 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,320 That's awesome. 542 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,960 You know, and the other thing with him too, I want to say he's humble because we were 543 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,280 trying to promote his book and, you know, basically talked about the book and tossed 544 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,040 it and that was it. 545 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:23,920 And then sitting here, he's like, it's almost like not being interviewed, but he wants to 546 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,160 sit there, don't ever do it again, Sarah says. 547 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,320 See, it's one of those things, the 55th, you get half the people that hate you and the 548 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,560 other half will love it, you know? 549 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,280 It's, then also depends on which David you get, but David is an amazing guy. 550 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,280 He really is. 551 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:46,800 He doesn't always, he looks at things way differently, excuse me, than other people. 552 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,800 Yeah. 553 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,800 Just don't take him down that rabbit hole. 554 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:57,560 I know, I would tell you what not to say or ask, but otherwise, he's a good guy. 555 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,560 He really is. 556 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,480 You should tell him to come on this show. 557 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,400 I would love to have him and pick his brain. 558 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:10,960 See, even Greg wants to pick his brain too, because he's very eccentric. 559 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,400 I thought I was eccentric. 560 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,160 No, no, no, no. 561 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,160 This guy, you open up the dictionary, eccentric, has his picture. 562 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,480 Well, you know Ken Allen and Ken Allen is very eccentric. 563 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:32,320 If he beats Ken Allen, then that's a feat, because Ken Allen's awesome, but he's very 564 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,320 eccentric. 565 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,320 The thing you don't mention is, was your house built on Native American land? 566 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,320 He flips out. 567 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,080 He's like, nope, and tells you this whole long story. 568 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,200 I had to do a say yes or no. 569 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,680 That's where the rabbit hole started. 570 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,440 Jay starts talking about UFOs and aliens. 571 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,440 Oh no. 572 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,080 Yeah, that was. 573 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,720 Yep, you did it. 574 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,960 You did it. 575 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,280 But I have to say that is amazing. 576 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,280 Thank you, Guns and Beers. 577 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,280 I appreciate that. 578 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,440 Yeah, thank you so much. 579 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,920 I just want to say, so tell me, tell us a little bit about, actually, John, you asked 580 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,840 your question, because I'm asking too many here. 581 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,560 Oh, geez. 582 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:26,240 I guess, what would be your most frightening paranormal experience, besides when you were 583 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,240 nine? 584 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,480 Like, once you knew what was going on. 585 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:39,040 I always have to look back at probably when I did the USS North Carolina Battleship. 586 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,120 I've never seen an apparition. 587 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:48,040 I want to see an apparition, but probably what came so close is I was sitting on the 588 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,240 floor in the little hallway. 589 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:58,400 We were actually in the medical area, the hospital part of it. 590 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,400 Medical bay, yeah. 591 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Yeah, yes, the medical bay, yes. 592 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,480 And Patty and I just got done doing the SS method. 593 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,540 And I'm sitting on the floor. 594 00:26:07,540 --> 00:26:11,120 I just turned my camera off, but there was a camera down the hall, so I got to find who's 595 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:22,200 got that footage, but I just happened to look up, and the plexiglass, I see a face looking 596 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,200 down at me. 597 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,080 And you can see the wrinkles and the whole face. 598 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,880 I'm just like, oh my God. 599 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,120 And I jumped up, because I screamed first. 600 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,120 I screamed. 601 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,600 I was like, ah, because it startled me. 602 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,600 And I jumped up. 603 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,360 And then I'm getting mad, because I was like, I thought somebody was in there. 604 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,520 And I was pissed, because I'm trying to do something serious. 605 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,880 And somebody's trying to scare me. 606 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,880 So I'm banging on. 607 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,880 I'm like, who's in there? 608 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,880 Is there a way to get back there? 609 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,200 And everybody's like, no. 610 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,200 Nobody get in there. 611 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,880 Everything's locked up and stuff. 612 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,800 So I calmed down about that. 613 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,000 The mat comes down, and he says he's getting ready to leave and stuff like that. 614 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,120 And I'm like, oh my God, I got to tell you what I saw. 615 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:03,120 And I start to tell him. 616 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:04,120 He goes, wait. 617 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:05,120 OK. 618 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,120 I had to put that out there. 619 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,120 That's fucking too great. 620 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:11,120 Well, that's my husband. 621 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,120 That's awesome. 622 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:17,120 Oh, Jesus. 623 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,840 Only he would write that. 624 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,640 Matt goes, let me tell you what you saw. 625 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,840 I'm like, OK. 626 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,320 So we walked down the hallway. 627 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,280 He goes, you saw something come out of this area? 628 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,960 I'm like, yeah. 629 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,960 He goes, I saw a face earlier. 630 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,960 I'm like, what? 631 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,280 I was freaking out. 632 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:42,720 So that was confirmation that something is in there, but not in there. 633 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,560 It's like a spirit is trapped there. 634 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,080 And it's a bathroom. 635 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,680 I went on my very first investigation. 636 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,200 And the second night, I looked to the left as I was wrapping up. 637 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,520 I looked into this room, and I saw an apparition standing there staring out the window. 638 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,520 I said, nope. 639 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,240 And I went into my room and went to bed, I put the headphones on and the covers on. 640 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,240 No way, man. 641 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,240 Oh, yeah. 642 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,440 Yeah, when you see one, it's scary. 643 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,880 I mean, I don't care who you are. 644 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,880 It's scary. 645 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,200 It was like white and twinkling and stuff. 646 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,200 Really? 647 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,200 It was amazing to see. 648 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,520 And I verified it the next day. 649 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,160 I put the cat ball in the center of the room. 650 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,200 And I said, Sharon, was that you that was here last night? 651 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,200 And I saw you. 652 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,320 And the cat ball went off for like 20 minutes. 653 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,040 It just kept going off and off. 654 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,880 And there was nothing, no apparition, nothing standing up. 655 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,120 And I told Kelly about it. 656 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,440 And because that was the room that her mom died in. 657 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,120 And her mom helped me get rid of this evil entity that was in their house. 658 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,120 Yeah. 659 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Wow. 660 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,120 It was so cool. 661 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Yeah, it was cool. 662 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,560 Yeah. 663 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,560 Yeah. 664 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,320 And people were like, well, if you saw it, why didn't you grab a camera? 665 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Sometimes you just don't think about that. 666 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:11,040 You're just like your jaws like, well, I was going live. 667 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,360 Like I do all my investigations live and and I was I was always when you turn the camera 668 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,360 off. 669 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,360 Yeah. 670 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Yeah. 671 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,720 But I tell you what, when I first saw that, I saw the apparition that I saw twice and 672 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,080 in my grandmother's house once with my whole family and then once by myself. 673 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,400 When I saw by myself in my room, when I woke up in the middle of the night, I went to grab 674 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,720 my camera because I kept it with me because nobody was believing me. 675 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,940 So I kept my camera always next to me. 676 00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:39,920 So I went and I turned grab my camera. 677 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,120 When I turned back to take a picture, it was like a it was like a pile of leaves being 678 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,320 taken by the wind and she like evaporated. 679 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,320 And it was like, holy shit. 680 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,200 Like so even having a camera in your hand, you were like, when that happens, you're like 681 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,280 what? 682 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,420 She was solid as me and you. 683 00:29:58,420 --> 00:30:05,080 So to go from solid to evaporation, I was just like, I didn't know what to do. 684 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,080 You know what I mean? 685 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,960 So you don't really think of it in that moment, you know, especially when you see it. 686 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,960 Exactly. 687 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,320 It happens when you don't want it to. 688 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,320 Right. 689 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,320 Right. 690 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Definitely. 691 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,320 Always. 692 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:23,480 So tell me, do you have any investigations lined up right now? 693 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,480 I do. 694 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,480 I do. 695 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,480 Can you talk about them? 696 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,140 Yes, I would love to talk about them. 697 00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:33,320 So I'm going to be going to Paracon. 698 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:39,200 Yeah, Paracon at Tombstone, Arizona. 699 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,480 And it's April 26th through the 28th. 700 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,840 And I'll be doing I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to do there, but I'm going to be 701 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:55,320 doing something because of course, there's a lot of history. 702 00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,880 Tony Rasmund was on last week and he's going to be there too at the at the Paracon. 703 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,880 Yeah, he's a speaker. 704 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,880 Yeah. 705 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,480 See, I should get him on before I go to. 706 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,480 And that was a crazy thing. 707 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,400 So my next week's speaker, my next week's guest is Rick McCollum. 708 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:18,480 If anybody knows him, you know, AJ got me hooked up with him and stuff. 709 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,480 Thank you, AJ. 710 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,760 That was this guy down to earth too. 711 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,760 And I have you interviewed. 712 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,000 I've I knew his whole team. 713 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,080 If you knew who his whole team was for his Hollywood paranormal investigations, you would 714 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,380 crap yourself like it's a Texel changes master guy, the Jason guy. 715 00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:39,160 And then I forget the other the last one. 716 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,800 I'm like, are you kidding me? 717 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,720 That is like the ultimate Hollywood squad right there. 718 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,720 Right. 719 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,720 Of horror. 720 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,560 Like, so yeah. 721 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:53,000 And when he said he would love to come on my show, I was just like, thank you. 722 00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:01,200 And then the other cool thing about this and I want people to know, yes, AJ and I were 723 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,480 talking AJ brought him into the hall like, hey, join our call with us. 724 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,480 And he did. 725 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:15,800 And he is so humble to just like John, you know, and so we were talking and because you 726 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,600 left the call, AJ and yeah, no, he left the call. 727 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,600 I can't remember. 728 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,520 It was I was I left the call so you guys can talk about whatever. 729 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,520 Yeah. 730 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,600 And we've been talking like, you know, it's like every two days or something like that. 731 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,280 Just, you know, preparing. 732 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,080 So I bought his book just so, you know, I look good. 733 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:43,480 I know what's going on and. 734 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,600 And my dog's growling to get in. 735 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,600 Hold on. 736 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,600 Cliffhanger. 737 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,600 I'll be right back. 738 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,600 Time out. 739 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:57,200 You know, it's funny, G.T., you say that nobody in the paranormal is humble. 740 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,680 I tell you what, I found out that there is a lot of people that aren't humble in the 741 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,680 field. 742 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,680 But you know what? 743 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,680 There is good people. 744 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,200 Like, like, like John and like Tony, and there is good, humble people in the field. 745 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,200 So it's just, you know, getting fewer and fewer, unfortunately. 746 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:19,000 And you know, so with him, he's he was a stunt man. 747 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,720 He played in many movies, too. 748 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,720 Yeah. 749 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,800 And, you know, he's into the paranormal. 750 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,400 He's traveled to Ireland. 751 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,720 He's been to Lep Kats, Lep Lep Castle. 752 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:38,280 And then I was like, I remembered hearing that name or seeing that name somewhere. 753 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,720 He's going to be at the paracon, too. 754 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,720 That's awesome. 755 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,720 Yeah. 756 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,720 I was like, I'm going to check it out. 757 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,200 My first one to go to. 758 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,200 You should go. 759 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,200 You should really go. 760 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,560 You're not that far from there. 761 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,360 Yeah, I know. 762 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,960 I just got to motivate myself, I guess. 763 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,880 We do a paracon here in Connecticut. 764 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,880 Amy Bruni. 765 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,880 Yeah. 766 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,880 She's going to be there. 767 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,880 All right. 768 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,880 All right. 769 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,880 Yeah. 770 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,440 Look at these paranormal people that's going to be there. 771 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,400 You got to be there, man. 772 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,440 And this is the second year. 773 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,880 I should just bite the bullet and go. 774 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:19,520 Oh, Chris wants to go to road trip. 775 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,680 Yeah, it should. 776 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,440 It would be fun. 777 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,760 And the other thing, talk about a really, really small world. 778 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,760 In his book, he talks about the Omen house. 779 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,840 Him and Dave Omen are friends. 780 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,480 And I just had him on my. 781 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,040 So I mean, how does that work out? 782 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,040 That's really cool. 783 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,040 That is so awesome. 784 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,160 See, you know, exactly like she when I hooked you up with Rick, you know, I think that that's 785 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,600 how the field should be, you know, like we work together, like, you know, we share it 786 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,600 together. 787 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,960 We're like that because meeting these great people, like we can all learn from each other. 788 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,960 And I think that that's what's so great about everything, you know, and like especially 789 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,760 having a show that are willing to share. 790 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,760 Yeah. 791 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,760 Yeah. 792 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,760 What do they call it? 793 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,760 Gatekeeping? 794 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,760 If they don't, you guys don't be fucking gay. 795 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,760 Yeah. 796 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,760 I don't know. 797 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,760 Yeah, you know, you're good. 798 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,760 This is NC 17 gatekeepers. 799 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,760 Come on. 800 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,760 Like, why? 801 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,760 Why would you do that? 802 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,760 Yeah. 803 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:26,360 I tell you what, definitely Tony because Tony has an amazing device called the static on 804 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,840 and he's using Marcello Bocchi's basically work, but progressing it. 805 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,400 And basically, you put Marcello Bocchi, if you know anything about him, do you know anything 806 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,760 about Marcello Bocchi? 807 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,760 No. 808 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,760 Okay. 809 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,760 He's an Italian researcher. 810 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,760 Look him up. 811 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,760 He's an amazing. 812 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,560 He used to take a shortwave radio and he used to basically tune between eight hertz and 813 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:53,040 nine hertz, go back and forth and all of a sudden spirit would stop the static and all 814 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,600 of a sudden August the wind would come and then voices would come out clear as day and 815 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,360 speak to him and he would have like 70, 80 people at his house and all of a sudden things 816 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,800 would app or into the room, like flowers and stuff for the family members that were there 817 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,120 that that actually can be verified by the family members that there was some trinket 818 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,760 that meant something to them. 819 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,480 And it's amazing. 820 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,520 Pulled out the fuses and the voices still came through. 821 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,520 What? 822 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,240 The FBI in this in the scientists were involved in this and they couldn't figure out how he 823 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,480 was doing it. 824 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:34,360 So they're he's using a similar method and what he's getting is similar to what Marcello 825 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,400 Bocchi is getting and it's just absolutely mind blowing. 826 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,400 Wow. 827 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,400 Damn. 828 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,400 Okay. 829 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,320 I'll definitely check out that guy. 830 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,360 Sounds really, really cool. 831 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,920 No, talk to Tony about it. 832 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,920 I'm serious. 833 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,080 Tony would be a great guest for your show. 834 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,120 You know, behind the scenes, just say, hey, how did you get there? 835 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:01,400 He knows so much about Bocchi and and what he's doing now. 836 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,880 Like when I interviewed him, he he had one of those white noise machines, you know, that 837 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,120 you would set by your bed. 838 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,680 And he was able to get voices through that white voice machine. 839 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,680 Really? 840 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,680 Yeah. 841 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,680 I'm like this guy already. 842 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,880 Yeah, you're going to love them. 843 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,200 I'm telling you, check out I'll send you the link. 844 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,440 And me after this is called Afterlife Investigations on YouTube. 845 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,360 And it does a whole episode on the skull experiment along with Marcello Bocchi. 846 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,240 And you're going to be shocked at what the skull experiments about. 847 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:35,240 Really? 848 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,000 You're going to shock the evidence. 849 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,000 I call it. 850 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,200 I'm out of this world. 851 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,200 It's pretty cool. 852 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,320 I advise everyone watching the skull experiment. 853 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,640 And I will share it on my community tab, too. 854 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,080 So that way, I'm telling you, people will love this documentary. 855 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,440 I'm telling you, it's the best evidence ever caught, in my opinion. 856 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,400 So it took us two episodes to go through. 857 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,400 Yeah. 858 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,000 Yeah, we had it was great. 859 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,920 But tell me, what are some of the stuff you guys are experiencing in this home? 860 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:16,600 Oh, so there was another time we were using our camera and we're like, we wanted to talk 861 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,520 to see who was in here. 862 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,320 And it was in back in the other end of the house. 863 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:29,280 And we're asking, you know, the normal questions, you know, hi, what's your name? 864 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:35,720 We wait, you know, did this for like 15 minutes, introduce ourselves. 865 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:43,120 And the last thing I said, would you like to speak with us? 866 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,200 And we put it back. 867 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,400 It goes, you know, like that. 868 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,080 And so, yeah, that happened back in our bedroom. 869 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,640 So there was that one, but it was a deep male voice whispering. 870 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,640 No. 871 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,640 Wow. 872 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,640 Yeah. 873 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,920 And that was down here all the time. 874 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,840 Jay freaked out on that one. 875 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,040 Yeah, I would have. 876 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:17,880 So I got a haunted doll from Jen and Eddie. 877 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:18,880 Do you guys know them? 878 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,880 Eddie and Jen and Eddie? 879 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,200 No, they support a lot of people. 880 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,640 So my mouse keeps dying. 881 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,600 I got a haunted doll from them. 882 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,760 His name's Andy. 883 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,520 And in the front living room. 884 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,560 I don't know where he's at now. 885 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,800 That's what's freaking me out now. 886 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:39,200 But in the front living room, when he's in there, we got those lights, the circular lights 887 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,120 in the ceiling and they would dim down. 888 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,480 If they're on, they would dim off. 889 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,480 Wow. 890 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,120 I'm like, okay, turn the lights back on, please. 891 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,640 And then we go up. 892 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:53,680 Jay has it where the dimmer switch, you can actually see the dimmer switch move down. 893 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,680 Get out of here. 894 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,680 Swear to God. 895 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,680 No, that is wild. 896 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:02,160 I would have been out of that house in a freaking minute. 897 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,160 Are you kidding me? 898 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,160 I would have stayed and investigated you. 899 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,160 You go ahead. 900 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,160 I have a question. 901 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,920 GT Adventure said, Emmy should show your orb video. 902 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,640 J Mac thought that was good. 903 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,840 Tell me how do I get to it? 904 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,040 Is it on your paranormal YouTube? 905 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,080 Show your orb video. 906 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,080 Jay? 907 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,080 I'm not. 908 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,040 Yeah, I gotta find out where he has it. 909 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,040 Voidman, welcome. 910 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,040 I haven't seen you in a while. 911 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,480 Jay, Jay back. 912 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,480 Can you hear me? 913 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,480 Jay? 914 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,480 I'll let you know. 915 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,480 Yeah. 916 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,440 Maybe he went to the bathroom or something. 917 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,440 He gave up on you. 918 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,440 He was like, I'm done. 919 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,560 Yeah, I will get him as soon as he responds to me. 920 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,560 So let me ask you this. 921 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,840 Do you have any remains of family members in your house? 922 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,840 Like ashes? 923 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,840 No. 924 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,840 Not yet. 925 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,840 I'm not coming. 926 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,840 That sounds bad. 927 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,760 But yeah, because he just passed away. 928 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,520 So I'm just waiting on his remains. 929 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,320 But so back to Andy, let me tell you. 930 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,440 Yeah. 931 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,800 Andy is very mischievous. 932 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,680 And Jen and Eddie will tell you this. 933 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,640 So he also likes to travel. 934 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,320 So that's why I'm thinking he's in the camper. 935 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,960 I took him camping with us. 936 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,800 And Jay didn't know. 937 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,480 I just kind of put a little spot for him up there above the bed. 938 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,720 Right above the bed. 939 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:33,800 So I'm like, OK, let's see how this goes. 940 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,600 So we were sitting there. 941 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,840 And our camper slides out to the dining room in a living room area. 942 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,920 And we were slid out. 943 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,120 The TV was over there. 944 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,120 And Jay's like, you ready to go to bed? 945 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,120 I'm like, yeah. 946 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,680 And I'm like, go ahead and turn out the TV. 947 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,720 Then the TV shuts off. 948 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:55,280 Jay goes, did you do that? 949 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,120 I'm like, no. 950 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,160 And the TV is not voice command or anything like that. 951 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,760 And so, thank you guys. 952 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,280 So he turns it back on. 953 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,160 And then he's like, he goes, repeat it. 954 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,160 He goes, you ready for bed? 955 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,160 I'm like, yeah. 956 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,160 Go ahead and turn the TV off. 957 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,740 And we looked up, the TV shuts off. 958 00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:19,280 And then the speakers shut off. 959 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,960 And we're like, yeah, there was no electricity in there? 960 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,960 No nothing? 961 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,920 During sessions, yeah. 962 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,040 This one turned off right after a response. 963 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,440 Yeah, it's crazy. 964 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,760 So after staying there, we come back home. 965 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,080 And I bring Andy back in the house. 966 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,200 And then the lights would dim down. 967 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,040 I'm like, please turn the lights back on. 968 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,400 Then they would go back up. 969 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,480 And Jay goes, Jay sees me hold the doll. 970 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,760 And he goes, you didn't take that doll with us, did you? 971 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,760 Oh my gosh. 972 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,760 And then you whipped it out. 973 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,760 Yeah, you whipped it out. 974 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,760 And he was like, I should have brought this. 975 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,760 Yeah. 976 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,520 And I'm like, that probably explains why the TV was being turned off. 977 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,280 And Jay was ready to vouch for our experiences. 978 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,200 Because when they had the doll, stuff like that would happen. 979 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,680 He would play with their electronics. 980 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,680 So yeah. 981 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,400 But now, like I said, I went to go get him the other day. 982 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,720 He was usually in my cabinet with my gemstones. 983 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:22,720 He's not there. 984 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,120 I'm like, where the fuck is the doll? 985 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,320 Hey, Jay Max, Jay Max response. 986 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,320 What? 987 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,520 Yeah, that was it right there. 988 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,360 He got pissed and it was over with. 989 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,360 Yeah. 990 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,360 Yeah. 991 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,360 All because of the doll. 992 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,360 You had to bring the doll with you. 993 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,360 Yeah. 994 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,360 He was. 995 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,360 Yeah, that's what he did. 996 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,360 He was like, what? 997 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,360 So. 998 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:53,480 Yeah, no, that's crazy though. 999 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,480 That is absolutely crazy. 1000 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,480 I mean, now have you done like a full fledged investigation of the house yet or no? 1001 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,160 No, not really. 1002 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,160 I mean, we've owned this house for 22 years. 1003 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:09,360 Oh, you got to do a full one because you don't know what you're going to get. 1004 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,240 But then again, though, it's like that is your home space. 1005 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,760 And God forbid, you don't want to open something up. 1006 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,760 So I get that. 1007 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,600 But maybe it needs to be closed. 1008 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,880 Maybe yeah, maybe it needs to be closed. 1009 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,880 You never know. 1010 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,880 Yeah. 1011 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,800 No, that's that's a window. 1012 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,440 It was a real window, but my husband took the picture, blew it up and put it behind 1013 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,000 the window to make it look like we're looking outside. 1014 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,000 That is so cool. 1015 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,800 I thought that was actually an outside. 1016 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,040 No, that's oh, now I see it. 1017 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,040 Oh my gosh. 1018 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,040 I see it. 1019 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,040 I thought that was something. 1020 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,040 Oh, wow. 1021 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,040 Never mind. 1022 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,040 That's just that's cool. 1023 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,040 I like that. 1024 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,040 Yeah. 1025 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,000 My husband's a photographer and he just blew it up. 1026 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,440 And that's so cool. 1027 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,520 We got a lot of those around here. 1028 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:57,840 Now tell me, OK, as as having a husband that's a photographer, what is your opinion on pictures 1029 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:03,880 in the paranormal, like taking pictures with, you know, say getting evidence on pictures, 1030 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,700 because there's some that I've seen that are really great. 1031 00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:11,400 Like Robbins, one of our hosts, he has an amazing picture that we've actually gave to 1032 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,440 the Ryan Institute. 1033 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,000 They can't figure it out. 1034 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:21,440 But tell me, as a photographer, that, you know, what do you think of pictures in the 1035 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,440 paranormal? 1036 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,120 Pictures are good. 1037 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:33,160 I mean, back in the day when it was only, you know, film and stuff, I mean, you couldn't 1038 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,640 manipulate that stuff. 1039 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,760 Yeah, I can. 1040 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,320 And now that's that's the only difference. 1041 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:45,680 I don't know. 1042 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,680 I trust. 1043 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,240 Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. 1044 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:55,240 Yeah, that that's so much better, because, like I said, you can't manipulate that where 1045 00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:56,240 these you can't. 1046 00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:00,920 I have a question when you all can get to any thoughts on the talks about the built 1047 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,120 in features in a Tesla car where they're talking, where they're taking your I got Robbins pictures, 1048 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,920 dude, if you want me to show them. 1049 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,920 Yeah, you could you could pull up a picture if you'd like to avoid. 1050 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,560 And I haven't heard I haven't actually heard anything of that. 1051 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,080 I mean, have you heard anything about the Tesla stuff? 1052 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,080 Mm hmm. 1053 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,800 No, I never heard of that, but I'm going to have to look into that. 1054 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,960 So thank you for bringing that up. 1055 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,640 So Patty and I when we were in the cemetery and her car has that feature where if somebody's 1056 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:36,520 too close to the back, it will start beeping and then it will put out the thing. 1057 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,920 And we were at a cemetery parked like right in the middle of the road. 1058 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,560 There should have been nothing behind us. 1059 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,360 And as we're sitting there, we got this on film to hate Miss Sheets. 1060 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,960 Hello, everybody who's coming in. 1061 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,080 I'm sorry. 1062 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,080 Hers would go off, too. 1063 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,080 So is it a coincidence? 1064 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,080 Exactly. 1065 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,360 I mean, it's missing, but it's possible either. 1066 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,800 Yeah, you know, definitely. 1067 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,000 I mean, could it be like a glitch or something? 1068 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,000 Absolutely. 1069 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,000 Of course. 1070 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,080 Like if it's happening to multiple vehicles, two different type of vehicles, is it possible? 1071 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,480 Obviously, I mean, that's running the experiment with a different variable, but still the same 1072 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,480 hypothesis. 1073 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,480 So who knows? 1074 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,360 You know, that could be that could be a great picture ready to pull up. 1075 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,160 This is the one with the heat signatures in it. 1076 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,160 Yeah. 1077 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,000 So we sent this to the Ryan Institute. 1078 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,800 They tried to make this. 1079 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:37,080 OK, so this black figure right here in the front is a is nobody that's supposed to be 1080 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,600 nobody there. 1081 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,160 I mean, I can't hear you. 1082 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,000 That's that's not a person right there. 1083 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,560 OK, that's not supposed to be a person that's supposed to be blank. 1084 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,520 The person in the background is his only one who's with him is his mother-in-law. 1085 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,560 He's the one taking the picture. 1086 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,880 This person, this black figure right here that John's pointing at is not supposed to 1087 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,880 be there. 1088 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,960 And it's and it's literally a picture of a shadow person. 1089 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:15,080 Like as you can see, I see that we've had the Ryan Institute rip this photo apart. 1090 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,280 It's literally legit. 1091 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,560 It's straight from the camera. 1092 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,560 There's no no play arounds, nothing played around with it. 1093 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,600 Can you blow it up a little on that part? 1094 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,600 Can you blow it up? 1095 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,560 You're going to see what the Ryan Institute did, but go ahead, blow it up. 1096 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,480 See how it's a little distorted right here. 1097 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,560 They try to figure everything out to figure out what this was, but they couldn't figure 1098 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,680 it out. 1099 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,320 Is that not wild? 1100 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,320 And does she have her back turned or is she facing the camera? 1101 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,600 Her back turned with her camera. 1102 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,720 That's her phone in her hand. 1103 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:49,720 That's bright. 1104 00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:50,720 You see her. 1105 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:51,720 Yeah. 1106 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,280 So that she's facing that way. 1107 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,360 And Robin took a picture of the whole room and this is what he got in the foreground. 1108 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,400 I think I have the original. 1109 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,400 Let me see. 1110 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,400 Yeah, here's. 1111 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,400 Okay. 1112 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,280 So yeah, no, this is right before it manifested. 1113 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,120 Scroll into that right before it manifested. 1114 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,120 Check this out. 1115 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,920 What the hell is that? 1116 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,920 Right. 1117 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:19,600 And then the next picture 10 seconds later was of the black guy, the black shadow guy. 1118 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:27,480 It's like he came down from the roof and then 10 seconds later it was walking on the ground. 1119 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,480 Wow. 1120 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,920 Look at the definition in the legs. 1121 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,920 Yeah. 1122 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,920 Yeah. 1123 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,920 Yeah. 1124 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,920 It's coming down. 1125 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,800 You could almost see his feet down there. 1126 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:45,880 Like it looks like, uh, like his knee, you like, you can see his, his leg there and like, 1127 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,740 this is his clothes and that's his knee. 1128 00:49:48,740 --> 00:49:50,160 That's really weird. 1129 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,340 No, it's absolutely crazy because like I said, we sent this to the Ryan Institute and they 1130 00:49:55,340 --> 00:49:57,640 really ripped this apart. 1131 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,200 Like we wanted them to, because I wanted to know, like, is it a glitch in the camera? 1132 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,200 You know, whatever it may be. 1133 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,160 Thank you so much, Rick, for saying that. 1134 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,640 Um, but you know, we, we tried everything and even they were like with their best technology 1135 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,640 were like, Nope. 1136 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,000 They're like, this is legit. 1137 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,320 And I'm like, wow, and then 10 seconds later was this one. 1138 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:23,280 When his mother-in-law walked to the door, he took a photo and boom. 1139 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,280 Wow. 1140 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,400 And that's the one that they, this is their proof. 1141 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,360 Like, like they took the picture apart. 1142 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:39,360 All these dots, these purple dots are heat signatures that, that there, there was a person 1143 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,040 there, but there's nobody there. 1144 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,560 Wow. 1145 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,560 It's so crazy. 1146 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,560 Like I can't explain it. 1147 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,520 And it makes me wonder because I'm into photography and I know that there's a lot of glitching 1148 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,520 that can go on with cameras. 1149 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,880 And the matrix scene of, you know, shadows can manipulate that. 1150 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,720 There's a lot of people like, Oh, you see that face? 1151 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:03,760 That's just a matrix in the, but yeah, watch on blow it up to that black figure. 1152 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,720 Tell me it doesn't look like an older gentleman almost with his back turned, like, you know, 1153 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,520 like this with a hat on almost. 1154 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,400 It looks like it came there. 1155 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,400 Yeah. 1156 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,840 Is that not wild though? 1157 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,160 Like I can't get over that picture because like, I don't normally take pictures because 1158 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:28,320 of the major chain because that's Robin's gift. 1159 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:37,000 He can take pictures and he'll see spirit in his picture. 1160 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,760 That is the most amazing thing that I ever seen. 1161 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:46,440 And the fact that he turned it over to scientists to help, that's so cool. 1162 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,440 Yeah. 1163 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,440 Yeah. 1164 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,120 It smells like it looks like a man from the early 19 hundreds. 1165 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,120 Right? 1166 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,120 Yeah. 1167 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,120 That's what I was thinking. 1168 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,120 It's so creepy. 1169 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,920 Like how, how can the cane manifest too? 1170 00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,920 Yeah. 1171 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,360 Like that's a completely separate part. 1172 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:07,080 And you can see the difference between him and what she looks like in the background. 1173 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,080 Yeah. 1174 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,160 Like it's like an actual human being. 1175 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,160 Yeah. 1176 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,160 And that's a shadow. 1177 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,160 Like you could tell it's a shadow. 1178 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:18,280 Like it's weird, but look how solid of a mass that is that you can't see through it. 1179 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,960 That's the part that drives me nuts, you know? 1180 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:27,800 Even going back to the one before it, dude, it's crazy. 1181 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,240 I mean, look at that. 1182 00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:35,240 That is before, that's before his mom was in that doorway. 1183 00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:36,240 Yup. 1184 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,040 To capture that and then capture that. 1185 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,040 Why can't you do something like that? 1186 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,040 Right? 1187 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,040 Exactly. 1188 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,040 I'm telling you. 1189 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,040 But I can't do that anyway. 1190 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,560 But no, that's amazing. 1191 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,360 Jay sent me the video. 1192 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,360 If I can share it. 1193 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,360 Yeah. 1194 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,360 Share your thing. 1195 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,360 Okay. 1196 00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:01,360 Share, share, share it all out. 1197 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,360 These are the vids we dream about. 1198 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,040 I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. 1199 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,760 This is like, this is like old. 1200 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,760 Okay. 1201 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,480 And this is the Geyser Grand Hotel I was talking about. 1202 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,480 Baker City. 1203 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,480 Hey guys. 1204 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,480 Just thought I'd show you this. 1205 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,560 I've never shown this before. 1206 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,560 This is some photographs from the Geyser Grand Hotel in Baker City, Oregon. 1207 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:37,400 Emmy and I stayed there with the kids in 2011. 1208 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,400 It's known to be haunted. 1209 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,880 There's lots of stories about the place. 1210 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:48,440 This is before we had any kind of paranormal equipment, any kind of ghost tools or paranormal 1211 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,440 tools or anything. 1212 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:55,240 All we had was our photographs and our camera and our phone. 1213 00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:56,240 And... 1214 00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:57,240 They're the flip phones. 1215 00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:58,240 You can only imagine. 1216 00:53:58,240 --> 00:53:59,240 They're speaking to themselves. 1217 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,240 I hope you enjoy it. 1218 00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:01,720 Check it out. 1219 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:15,640 Let me know what you see below. 1220 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:33,920 See, I don't know about orbs like that. 1221 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,920 That's the one thing. 1222 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,840 I want to know what your response is on this. 1223 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,440 Because as a photographer, I know this is a flip phone, but do you think that this could 1224 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,040 be dust and stuff like that? 1225 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:52,080 What do you think, Emmy? 1226 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,840 Well, very prominent. 1227 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:05,160 I mean, I don't always think everything's an orb, but these were very prominent from 1228 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,720 a flip phone. 1229 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:07,720 Yeah. 1230 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:12,680 It's just weird how they're all perfect circles too. 1231 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,480 Like exactly perfect. 1232 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,440 Like they're not oblong in one area. 1233 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:25,160 My theory though, right, is that this is how spirits travel and this is what the soul actually 1234 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,160 is. 1235 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,680 Like, I believe that they travel like this. 1236 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,680 See how those are two different colors? 1237 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,680 Yeah. 1238 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,960 Like that, I believe is definitely something. 1239 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,760 It's not just a normal dust or anything like that, but the little ones like these, I kind 1240 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,480 of get wondered a little bit. 1241 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,960 But I tell you what, I have a theory that this is how they travel and they get into 1242 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,760 a ball because every time you see an orb, especially even a light anomaly that like 1243 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,440 it does weird shapes and stuff, it's always traveling somewhere. 1244 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,080 And I feel like that's how they travel. 1245 00:55:55,080 --> 00:56:00,220 And I'm wondering if the soul goes into our body through our pineal gland and obviously 1246 00:56:00,220 --> 00:56:06,920 is in throughout our body through spreading itself out because as you know, it can manifest 1247 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:07,920 into apparitions. 1248 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,920 Yeah, that's wild. 1249 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:09,920 Yeah, that's wild. 1250 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:10,920 That one's definitely not. 1251 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:17,520 Because he was a solid object and it was in between him and the camera. 1252 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:18,520 I don't know. 1253 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,040 You know, that's the thing that makes me. 1254 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,040 There's a face in there. 1255 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,040 Yeah, I can see that. 1256 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,040 Yeah, that's wild. 1257 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:56,240 This is the old library. 1258 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,880 That's crazy. 1259 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,840 I just find it so wild that they're so perfectly sphere. 1260 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,840 Exactly. 1261 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,240 You know what I mean? 1262 00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,940 Like always like they're always like that. 1263 00:57:08,940 --> 00:57:13,200 That's why I don't believe that like all orbs like that are just dust. 1264 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,120 Or isn't that I don't think dust is a perfect circle. 1265 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,120 No, it's not. 1266 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,120 That was. 1267 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,400 I mean, you know what? 1268 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,400 That was right there. 1269 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,400 Yeah, that was right there. 1270 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,040 That right there is amazing. 1271 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,200 And if you look, you can see other ones like kind of faded. 1272 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,200 Well, there's one that's green. 1273 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,200 There's one that's white. 1274 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,120 Yeah, is there green in that one? 1275 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,640 Yeah, you can like how does green reflect back? 1276 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:55,400 Like that's one of the lower lower spectrums. 1277 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,640 And then why would these two be different? 1278 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,640 But then this is way brighter. 1279 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:07,520 Even if it's huge, but you can see you can see it's transparent because you can kind 1280 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,800 of see the chandelier. 1281 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,040 Yeah, you can see the chandelier through the orb. 1282 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,040 Yeah. 1283 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:19,160 That's right. 1284 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:25,400 I mean, even if it was moisture in the air, it would reflect blue, not green. 1285 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,000 Yeah, this was a pink or reddish pink. 1286 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,800 Yeah, kind of reddish. 1287 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:31,800 Right. 1288 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,880 So like this one has a solid round circle. 1289 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,480 And then in the middle, it's kind of like this little fuzziness. 1290 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,480 It's just solid. 1291 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:48,520 You can even see faint ones to the left, like they're not and they're all perfect circles. 1292 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,440 Yeah, I don't I don't know, man. 1293 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,120 I really, you know. 1294 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,120 Now I got you. 1295 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,120 Yeah, no, definitely. 1296 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:06,080 And it's good to get an inspect like an inside perspective from somebody who has a husband 1297 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:12,640 that is in photography, because normally photography people will be like, oh, that's nothing. 1298 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:13,640 That's just dust. 1299 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,640 It's watermarks. 1300 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:15,640 That's this. 1301 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,320 But you want to know what they're like that prominent one just in that one picture where 1302 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,240 one's like so and then the other ones are not. 1303 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,840 I don't know how to explain that. 1304 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,840 Unless it's close. 1305 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:28,840 I don't know. 1306 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,480 And it just looks like it's further away. 1307 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:32,480 It could be a small. 1308 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,480 Okay. 1309 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:40,280 So the cameras we were using, I'll go ahead, some cameras we were using were getting out 1310 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,280 of the way. 1311 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,920 2011 what kind of cameras on our phones that we have? 1312 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,560 We had slip phones. 1313 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,560 Yeah. 1314 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,240 And for it to pick up like that. 1315 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:58,040 I mean, what was a pixelation like four or five on one of those phones back in the day? 1316 00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,040 Yeah, right. 1317 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,040 Definitely. 1318 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,040 We had snake on the phone. 1319 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,800 Oh yeah. 1320 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:04,800 Yeah. 1321 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:05,800 Yeah. 1322 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,800 I miss the car phone. 1323 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:14,520 In like orbs or anything like that, because, you know, he will try to debunk that and 1324 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,520 pick that out. 1325 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,040 But these he couldn't. 1326 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,040 Yeah. 1327 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,600 And, you know, it's out there with some people are like, oh, that's dust. 1328 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,840 Well, that's what we thought. 1329 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,080 You know, the pictures I love are the ones back in the eighties when you had the tube 1330 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,920 television behind people and you'd see faces show up when they took pictures. 1331 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,880 There's like no way you could you could do that back then. 1332 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,880 You know, right. 1333 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:47,360 That's why I got this old TV, you know, to hopefully someday a face will show up during 1334 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,360 the live session. 1335 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,680 There's a there crazy there even there. 1336 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,680 Oh, missed it. 1337 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:53,680 That's okay. 1338 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,680 I read it. 1339 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,680 Oh, sorry. 1340 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:56,680 No, I read it. 1341 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:57,680 I don't read. 1342 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,680 Remember, I don't. 1343 01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,680 Oh, my Paul. 1344 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,280 That's okay. 1345 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,800 Sixteen people over on YouTube. 1346 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:05,800 Sorry. 1347 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,920 Thank you guys so much for coming in and supporting these guys. 1348 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,480 We're all together. 1349 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,480 Thank you. 1350 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,000 And then thirty one came in all together, like at one point. 1351 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,880 So thank you guys so much for checking this out today. 1352 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,720 And we were definitely going to have you back on because we have so much more to talk about. 1353 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,440 But thank you so much for tuning in. 1354 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,440 Thank you for having me. 1355 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,980 Yeah, no, of course. 1356 01:01:26,980 --> 01:01:30,160 And I look forward to seeing your show with Rick and everything that's going to be so 1357 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,280 cool and that will be this Tuesday. 1358 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,520 Can I can I give myself a plug? 1359 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,760 I was just about to say, please shout out everything. 1360 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,000 And I'm going to put up this little thing right here. 1361 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,000 So go ahead. 1362 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,000 OK. 1363 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,000 Yeah. 1364 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,840 So this Tuesday, it's going to be on YouTube. 1365 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,160 PX Paranormal. 1366 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,560 Also out there on Paralinks. 1367 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:59,880 I think I believe Paralinks one and Paralinks plus and my Facebook also. 1368 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:00,880 And I'm trying to think. 1369 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:06,920 So it's going to be Tuesday at five p.m. Pacific, eight p.m. Eastern. 1370 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,520 And whatever your time zones are in the middle. 1371 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:13,240 I mean, come on, you guys know. 1372 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,480 That's pretty much I don't miss it. 1373 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,480 What? 1374 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:23,120 Yeah. 1375 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,400 Let's get it. 1376 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,360 But anyway, so yes, please go check out PX Paranormal. 1377 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:32,600 We got John dancing now. 1378 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:33,600 Oh, we're. 1379 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:34,600 Yeah. 1380 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,600 And now I'm joining in. 1381 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,560 Can I can I do one last song? 1382 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,600 Because, you know, every time I'm on somebody's show, this is what I cause. 1383 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:52,960 But if you close your emotional damage, emotional damage, emotional damage, emotional damage. 1384 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:53,960 Emotional damage. 1385 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,960 I love that guy. 1386 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:55,960 Uncle Roger. 1387 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:56,960 I hope it doesn't get copyrighted. 1388 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:57,960 Yeah, we're definitely getting copyrighted for that one. 1389 01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:58,960 Yeah. 1390 01:02:58,960 --> 01:02:59,960 Now. 1391 01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:00,960 But no, it's all good. 1392 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:08,960 But, Emmy, thank you so much for coming in and tuning in with us. 1393 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,480 Appreciate you so much. 1394 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,480 I look forward to it. 1395 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,240 I'm going to be talking to you this week, so we'll talk and, you know, I have a couple 1396 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,240 more guests for you. 1397 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,960 So I look forward to it. 1398 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,120 Thank you to everyone on any side who has showed up and tuned into this. 1399 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,200 We appreciate you so much for that. 1400 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,240 You can check out Talking with the Source every Sunday at three p.m. Eastern Standard 1401 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:34,880 Time, as well as on every podcast listening platform known to man. 1402 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,720 So check us out and, you know, come check us out. 1403 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,600 But otherwise, any thank you so much. 1404 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,600 I will see you soon. 1405 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,600 Thank you for having me. 1406 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,960 And tell Jack I said hello as well. 1407 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,840 Am I dropping down or out? 1408 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:48,840 I'm going to drop. 1409 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:49,840 Yeah, you could drop out. 1410 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,840 You're good. 1411 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:51,840 OK. 1412 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:52,840 There we go. 1413 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:53,840 Oh, big guy. 1414 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:54,840 Set it back up. 1415 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:55,840 All right, my brother. 1416 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,840 So tell me, what did you think? 1417 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:57,840 I thought, dude, we had an awesome show, man. 1418 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:58,840 I love that. 1419 01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,840 That was amazing. 1420 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:00,840 I had an awesome time. 1421 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,840 She was a wonderful guest. 1422 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:02,840 I was glad to meet her. 1423 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:03,840 And it definitely, I mean, I'm so happy to be here. 1424 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,840 I'm so happy to be here. 1425 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:05,840 I'm so happy to be here. 1426 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,840 I'm so happy to be here. 1427 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:07,840 I'm so happy to be here. 1428 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,840 I'm so happy to be here. 1429 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:14,600 And it definitely, Chris, if you're still listening, we can talk later about going to 1430 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,600 the Paracond in Arizona. 1431 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,960 Yeah, man, I want to get down there. 1432 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:25,120 But yeah, so I tell you what, I love having me on. 1433 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:31,440 You know, me and Emmy, we work together in a bunch of things in the paranormal field. 1434 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,520 And then we became friends. 1435 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,800 And you know, she's been a great person. 1436 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:42,760 But, you know, like she just said, it's not my show. 1437 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,560 I was being interviewed. 1438 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:46,560 She was. 1439 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:51,440 So I appreciate you guys for, you know, coming on, listening to us. 1440 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,320 So be on again, but keep supporting PDX Paranormal. 1441 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,120 Until next time, my name is AJ Capasso, host of Talking with the Source. 1442 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,720 I'm here with my best friend, Jonathan Kieworth. 1443 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,000 John, shout out your show. 1444 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:09,160 Yeah, JK 47 Paranormal, check me out. 1445 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:14,160 I do live spirit box sessions every Tuesday at 12 p.m. mountain time. 1446 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,560 I work on cold cases. 1447 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,920 So that's 2 p.m. for you folks on the East Coast. 1448 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:28,640 This next one is just happened, actually, January 24th. 1449 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,560 The poor guy was decapitated and his brother found his body. 1450 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:41,200 So a viewer from a face show I was on asked if I could do that. 1451 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:48,120 And I think it was fate, you know, because because Faye just asked me to come on. 1452 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,120 And I did. 1453 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,760 And, you know, she asked me if I could help. 1454 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,720 So so check it out. 1455 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:59,720 Tuesday, JK 47 Paranormal, 12 p.m. mountain time. 1456 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:00,720 Awesome. 1457 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,320 And make sure to check out Talking with the Source every week on Sunday at 3 p.m. Eastern 1458 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:05,320 Standard Time. 1459 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:30,120 Until next time, guys, thank you so much and have a great day.