1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:20,400 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 2 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:32,000 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 3 00:00:50,400 --> 00:01:10,400 Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to Talking with the Source. I'm the JK 47. AJ is not here right now, so we're going to continue with our show. We got a great show for you. I hope you're ready. 4 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:26,400 We're going to be picking the brain of Mr. Tony Rathmann. If you don't know Tony, he does a lot of work with StataCom. I'm really excited to talk to him. I want to pick his brain about a lot of stuff, man. 5 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:40,400 You know what, without further ado, first I want to shout out ParaPost. Thanks for us having us on. ParaPost, also check out Global Ghost Hunts. They're affiliated with ParaPost and AJ. 6 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Yeah, let's get started, guys. I'm really excited. Tony, welcome, man. How are you? I'm doing great. Doing great, thank you. It's nice and warm down there in Arizona, I'm hoping. 7 00:01:54,400 --> 00:02:05,400 I'm doing great. No complaints at all. 75. Yeah, that's not bad. It's better than 101 or 120, right? Exactly. Exactly. 8 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:25,400 Let's go, brother. First of all, just like we asked all our guests, man, what got you affiliated with paranormal research and digging into the afterlife? How did you start out? Well, I didn't believe in any of it. 9 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:40,400 I started out with my wife that got me involved in it. She liked watching the paranormal shows that were out early, Ghost Hunters, Ghost Adventures. She thought they were fascinating. 10 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:49,400 She kept trying to get me to sit down and watch. I could last about a minute or two and I'd be like, this is BS, this isn't true. This is television. 11 00:02:49,400 --> 00:03:04,400 And then she finally, I think it was Valentine's Day back in 2010. And she said, normally we'd go to a resort, hang out by the pool. She said, I want to do something different. I said, okay, what do you want to do? She said, I want to go ghost hunting. 12 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:28,400 And I was like, oh my God. I had two charges. I could take her. I could have her mad at me until next Valentine's Day. So I took her. And when we got home and she started going through the recordings, the photographs, the videos, I was blown away. 13 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:42,400 I had all this stuff in all of it that wasn't there when we took the picture, voices that were answering on the recorder that were not there when I remember recording it. 14 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:53,400 And I was blown away. And I spent probably two or three months trying to debunk it and couldn't. So finally I said to her, well, let's go back and try it again. 15 00:03:53,400 --> 00:04:08,400 And we did. We got even more and went back again, even more. I think we investigated that particular hotel over 50 times. And stuff just kept coming. So then we started branching out. 16 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:26,400 We covered everything in Arizona. Then we covered Nevada. Then we covered Southern California. Then moved over to LA. Then started experimenting with locations throughout the rest of the country, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania. 17 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:32,400 Ended up going out to New Jersey area with Ron and Lourdes. 18 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Then we went to investigate in Japan and the Philippines. And it just kept growing from there. 19 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:48,400 That's amazing, man. So let me ask, what hotel in Arizona was it? 20 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,400 Hotel San Carlos. 21 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:59,400 San Carlos. All right. Cool. Cool. So going in as a skeptic, you were kind of like, oh, whatever, whatever. 22 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:10,400 And what do you think now? What can you tell skeptics, you know, give it a chance or, you know, go experience it for yourself? What do you tell them? 23 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:23,400 Yeah, you have to put in the time. You have to put in the research. Just because you go one time, ask some questions. You know, you don't always get something. It takes time. 24 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:31,400 You have to, you have to have the passion to do it. You have to put in the time to make it happen and do it effectively. 25 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:37,400 And only from there does the results start to show up, start to paint a picture. 26 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:48,400 And from there, you know, that's when you get information for yourself that says, hey, this isn't normal. This shouldn't be happening. 27 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,400 There was no reason for this to occur. There were no other people. 28 00:05:53,400 --> 00:06:10,400 And of course, knowing your surroundings, knowing what's around you, knowing what's happening, why you're investigating, super important to making sure that what you're claiming to be paranormal actually is and not just some something you overlooked or missed. 29 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:20,400 Right, right, right. Or any, you know, things in the room that could have activated it, you know, like vents and stuff like that. 30 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:34,400 Just being the skeptic, you know, in trying to debunk your own stuff that I think that's the biggest thing that investigators need to do, you know, in order to be credible. 31 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:44,400 Yeah, and it was more than just being skeptical. I mean, my father was a physics, chemistry and physical science instructor. 32 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:55,400 So, I mean, everything I asked when I said, hey, dad, why is the sky blue? Well, the sky's blue because vapor hangs out in the air. And when light hits it, it separates the colors. 33 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Blue is the most common color, so it makes the sky look blue. Well, you know, ghosts, spirits, wasn't a conversation that came up much. So it was something that, you know, I had to just find out for myself. 34 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:25,400 There you go. There you go. And you're you're you're doing great, man. I can't applaud you on all the accomplishments that you've done. So so why don't you tell us a little bit how static Kong came to be, you know, where where where'd you start? 35 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:51,400 And how did you get to where you're at today? Well, we went out to New Jersey to do some investigation. We did a four day for haunted mansion tour with Ron and Lord as we went to Selma Mansion, White Hill Mansion, Chrysler Mansion. 36 00:07:51,400 --> 00:08:03,400 And which one am I forgetting? I'm drawing a blank at the moment, but they were already experimenting with DRV. 37 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Okay. And so we got to hear it run four days, four nights in a row, four different locations. 38 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:28,400 And it was fascinating because it wasn't it wasn't single word short answers. There was very little background noise blocking it, affecting it. 39 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:37,400 And that was intriguing to me. I mean, we we had been involved with building spirit boxes for 12 years. 40 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:58,400 And I hadn't heard anything like I heard what they were getting. So we joined forces with them and we turned it from direct radio voice, which would literally use white noise on a static station, meaning no station. 41 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:04,400 And the white noise is what spirits would use to communicate. 42 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Well, there were a couple of concerns with that. The first concern is that any skeptic, any scientist, they basically dismiss ITC when a radio is used. 43 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:39,400 They don't take it seriously because your spirit box, your scanning radio, direct radio voice doesn't scan radio, but you're still using a device that has the ability to pick up audio and play it. 44 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:46,400 So one of the things was, can we make this? 45 00:09:46,400 --> 00:10:04,400 Can we make this function without the radio? And I did a test two years ago out at the Superstition Mountains Museum, where I used a sleep machine that had the sound of white noise on it. 46 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Yeah, yeah. 47 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:19,400 And I did this in front of a live audience and it worked. Oh, wow. In through, and it actually embedded onto the chip in those in the sleep machine. 48 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:35,400 But then we realized that we didn't need the radio at all. And we moved from a radio to a white noise generator. So all the white noise is computer chip produced. 49 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:49,400 It has absolutely no audio data in it at all. No voice, no syllables, no nothing. Pure white noise does not have audible data in it. 50 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Right, right. 51 00:10:50,400 --> 00:11:14,400 And so we could still get full sentence responses using a white noise generator. But the other thing about about Staticom and other improvements that we made is that people who do EVP do what's called record and review, meaning they turn the recorder on. 52 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:36,400 They ask a bunch of questions. Then they may take it home, back it up, play it back, review it. Then they'll go through and try and enhance it, take out background noise, try to get whatever vocals they think they have clear, more understandable. 53 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,400 Staticom does this all live. 54 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Oh, wow. 55 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:50,400 We don't have to do anything. It'll clean it, it'll clear it, it'll spit out the vocals. 56 00:11:50,400 --> 00:12:02,400 And Ron had gotten a response one time, but it was so fast that he couldn't understand what was being said. 57 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:08,400 So he came to me and said, Hey, how do you slow down live white noise? 58 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:24,400 And so I said, well, I think this will do it. And sure enough, it did. So not only do we clear it, not only does it filter, it's live white noise is slowed down in real time. So we don't ever have that problem of voices coming through so fast that we miss the message. 59 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:40,400 Right, right. That's crazy that it does it all at once. Because I know when I do my sessions, like, man, I got to put in a program and do the denoising to try to make the, you know, quieter and stuff. That's awesome, man. 60 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:52,400 Did you come up with the, is it a program that's in the computer or did you have to actually build the computer with hardware that has all this in it? 61 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,400 It uses what's called a DAW. 62 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,400 Okay. 63 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:00,400 And DAW programs will input mods. 64 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:06,400 And the mods are made, it's basically like a complete audio studio. 65 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:14,400 So we've got everything from de-essers to frequency filters to you name it. 66 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:22,400 So it's basically like having a full... 67 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:33,400 Musical studio, all those buttons and switches that they have, it's all in one thing. And you can focus it to give you the voices or do you focus on a certain frequency or is... 68 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:39,400 No, it uses the entire white band spectrum. Everything from 20 Hertz to 20 kilohertz. 69 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:44,400 All run simultaneously. Because we never know. 70 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:56,400 People always ask what filter, what frequency does spirit speak at? They're all over the boards. There isn't a single frequency. It doesn't exist like that. 71 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:13,400 So let me ask you this, like before you do a session or get ready for a session, do you do any type of meditation or concentration or do you just put all the faith into the computer you're using or laptop or... 72 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:22,400 Well, you know, after doing this for 12, 13 years, most of that... 73 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:31,400 Because we've been doing it for so long, those connections have already been made. Spirits will communicate with us the second we turn it on. 74 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:36,400 Over the years. 75 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:42,400 We've not had to focus so highly on getting them to communicate because it's a... 76 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:55,400 It's a back and forth appreciation. They know we're going to speak to them. They know that we're comfortable with them coming to speak to us. And so that relationship has been built upon over the last decade. 77 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:04,400 So there's not a lot of premeditation that needs to go into it outside of us activating it and saying, hey, come speak with us. 78 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:20,400 It's just amazing, man. Like, you know, I've only been doing this for three years and two of the years have just been here in my basement trying, you know, to communicate and solve cold cases and stuff. 79 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:31,400 So let me ask you this, do you believe you have to be at a location to talk to a certain spirit or can you do it at home and be able to talk to anybody? 80 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:39,400 No, spirits are not bound by time or space. Right. They can answer from anywhere. 81 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:55,400 So the first thing we realize is just because we're getting voices does not mean A, they're at the location we're at and B, getting spirits to speak does not indicate that the location you're at is even haunted. 82 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,400 True. 83 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,400 You can get them anywhere. 84 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:13,400 Okay. Have you ever done any like home cases? Have you have you helped any individuals in their home to try to talk to spirit and figure out why they're at the home like poltergeist or anything? 85 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:26,400 Yep, we have done all of that and had really good, really good responses. I mean, we've gotten everything from. 86 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:40,400 It's a shame you don't have the clips because you'll see what I'm talking about. Some of those are in there where, you know, we ask who's here. We get first and last name from first and last name. 87 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,400 Those were kind of vital to how Staticom works. 88 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:53,400 So, so with this first and last name responses, were you able to tie it to the location or with the people living there? 89 00:16:53,400 --> 00:17:07,400 Well, there were times I mean we had one time where the people of the house said, Oh my God, that's my uncle. He, he passed away, you know, a year ago or whatever it was at that time. 90 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:17,400 But there are other times too where we've taken that name looked it up and sure enough they're they're either attached to the property or or somehow attached to the location. 91 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:24,400 It's amazing what what Staticom can actually can actually give you as far as responses. 92 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:30,400 No, exactly. You're inspiring me, man. I that's what I want to do. 93 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:47,400 I was thinking of building a box that had a analog tuner and using that and as the white noise because nothing's being broadcasted on that analog frequency anymore. So, so why not use that? What do you think of that? 94 00:17:47,400 --> 00:18:02,400 Well, like I said, the main reason we completely removed from a radio was because of the skepticism that's involved with it. You know, you get every answer from, you know, you're using a device that's made to pick up audio waves. 95 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:15,400 You're getting stray radio. Well, we can't have that happen anymore. A white noise generator cannot pick up any radio wave any satellite wave any walkie talkie wave it's not physically possible. 96 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:26,400 So, to still get full intelligent responses through something that has no ability to pick up audio waves. 97 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:33,400 That's what clearly set us aside and apart from the other devices used today. 98 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:48,400 Yeah, and I'm sure, you know, like we were talking backstage, you got you got people that are, you know, truly skeptical and they want to test it out. Do you want to tell them a little about that or? 99 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,400 Well, no one's been able to test it yet because the research isn't done yet. 100 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,400 Okay, okay. 101 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:03,400 There's other complications. The fact that, you know, it's not like a spirit box where the developer builds it sells it. 102 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,400 And you've got a you've got a device you flip on and you can use. 103 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,400 This is a methodology, not a device. 104 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:26,400 So, the two problems we run into is a the amount of questions that are going to come when this does get released. 105 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:42,400 So, the four of us couldn't even handle the amount of questions that are going to come, let alone helping people figure it out what's going wrong what are they not doing right so that's part of the concern we have about releasing it. 106 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,400 The bigger one is that we're not done with the research yet. 107 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,400 And that could take that could take a while yet. 108 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:57,400 Yeah, so you're using using the scientific method, you know, come up with a hypothesis, so on so forth. 109 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,400 Well, yes and no. 110 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:11,400 All the research that's been done all the testing that's been done has been to probably about the highest degree of anything we've ever done before. 111 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:31,400 To throw in the term scientific method that's where it gets complicated because a most sciences whether you're talking physics chemistry psychology follow what's called materialism, or the 3D world. 112 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:47,400 Studying or testing what we consider to be paranormal science can't touch. They can't touch it because a, they can't capture it, they can't put it in a lab they can't test it. 113 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,400 Therefore they claim it doesn't exist. 114 00:20:50,400 --> 00:21:10,400 So one of two concerns there either a, it doesn't exist. Well, we know it does, or be there's a problem within their system that doesn't allow them to accept and test what we consider to be paranormal. 115 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,400 And then based on what your outcome is of what the reality is around you. 116 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,400 You know most people refer to it today as paranormal. 117 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:32,400 Well, we refer to it as communicating with disembodied consciousness. And if you believe consciousness survives death, then there's nothing paranormal about any of this. 118 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,400 It's just plain normal. 119 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:50,400 So, so, our consciousness is a type of energy then right so this is get into quantum physics as far as, as how we can, how you can get these communications that come through. 120 00:21:50,400 --> 00:22:10,400 Well, you know there's different variables of sciences, depending on like I said whether you're talking physics whether you're talking psychology, but there, there's probably no direct theory out there that explains all of it. 121 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:24,400 And it's because a more than 50% of the variables that are involved in this, we probably don't even know what they are, because we don't have that inside knowledge of what is on the other side. 122 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,400 And we won't have it until we're there and then it's too late. 123 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:47,400 So, the best way to do it is to put together theories that answer more questions than are left open and continue to go down that testing research until you either hit a wall, or you hit something that you can't explain or can't understand. 124 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,400 So, like I said the whole fact of consciousness. 125 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,400 Science today said consciousness is just a byproduct of the brain. 126 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:14,400 Well, if consciousness was a byproduct of a brain then who's answering my questions, because there is no body there. The body is gone. The brain is gone, which means the only logical explanation is that consciousness then survives. 127 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:29,400 And that is the theory under which we operate that consciousness survives without consciousness being able to communicate, facilitate energy in certain scenarios. There would be nothing paranormal. 128 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,400 There wouldn't, it wouldn't exist. 129 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:50,400 No, you're right. You're right. So, have you ever tried to like use your Staticom to help like a cold case to maybe help elevate the, you know, the value of Staticom? Have you ever tried that? 130 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:58,400 Oh yeah. And it worked fine. The problem was when the FBI contacted us wanting to know how we got these answers. 131 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,400 Yeah. No, I'm not kidding. 132 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,400 Really? Really? What case was it if you can tell? 133 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,400 No, I can't say. 134 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:18,400 Okay. All right. All right. No, that's cool, man. No. In fact, if you've gotten contacted by the FBI, I mean, people are probably watching. 135 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:33,400 They wanted to know how we got it, what the device was. They wanted to know if we had it patented. I said, well, if I patent it, I have to spell out and diagram out every aspect of how it operates. 136 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:39,400 I said, if I do that, all you got to do is go look it up. And he went out. Good point. 137 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,400 She said, you didn't patent it? I said, no. 138 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,400 Were you a little freaked out when they called you or showed up? 139 00:24:47,400 --> 00:25:05,400 Well, you know, there's nothing more important than information. And when that information can come from sources that are not explainable, yeah, that can get a little scary because who doesn't want that information? 140 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:13,400 Who doesn't want to be able to get that information? And so, yeah, it was a little unnerving. 141 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,400 I bet, man. I can only imagine. Geez. 142 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:25,400 Wow. So I guess from there, have you ever asked Spirit about predictions? 143 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:52,400 They will not. There are what we call universal laws, and they will not go past those. There's a theory that if you have too much information, you know, you basically, your focus, your understanding basically falls apart. 144 00:25:52,400 --> 00:26:06,400 And we know when we are hitting those walls with Spirit because they'll literally say, can't tell you that, can't say anymore, we're done talking. 145 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,400 And that's everything from lottery numbers to future predictions. 146 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:31,400 If you had all the information that's out there and knew everything, your life today here in the 3D world would become so complicated, so misaligned, you wouldn't be able to focus on anything. 147 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:46,400 And it is literally, people always say, well, what's that veil between life and death? That veil is simply the human body. It is the veil between life and death. 148 00:26:46,400 --> 00:27:02,400 Our vision only sees visible light. Our hearing only goes from 20 hertz to 20 kilohertz. Our sense of smell is limited. Our sense of colors we can see. What we can feel, touch. 149 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:24,400 It is the limitations of the five senses that literally keep us away from what we call paranormal. And because unless you're considered a true medium or psychic and have that ability, the only other way to get in contact with it is through technology. 150 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,400 And that's what we do. 151 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:43,400 Yeah, no, exactly. Just using what you got and using, trying to get it to do things that it normally can't. I'm still getting over the fact that you use the white noise machine and got responses from that. What was that like? 152 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,400 Well, it's what you got to hear to believe. 153 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,400 And I don't know. 154 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,400 Let me see. 155 00:27:53,400 --> 00:28:05,400 Because without it, I mean, we're talking, but the real understanding of what this thing is and how it functions kind of goes out the window. 156 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:21,400 No, exactly. I'm thinking of those little snooze machines that you put next to your bed and you hit white noise. And I can only imagine if we heard a voice coming through while you're sleeping or something. 157 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:31,400 Yeah, give me give me a second. Let me see if I can pull up at least something to demonstrate what I'm talking about. 158 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:41,400 No, no, everybody's everybody wants to say it. Roger says fire it up, Tony. 159 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,400 Let's see. 160 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:57,400 There's Brian Lafferty. What's up, buddy? How you doing, man? All right, let me see if I can share this. So this is when the entire 161 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:17,400 EVPI team, myself, Sheree, Ron and Lourdes and Chris and Audra, we went out to North Carolina and we investigated a house that Chris and Audra run called the Montgomery House. 162 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:23,400 Okay. And we were doing STATICOM upstairs. 163 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:39,400 And we were getting all sorts of information, but Lourdes asked the spirits, what do you like? What do you like about this house? What's your favorite part of this house? 164 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:51,400 This, hold on, I'm going to have to share this, but this was the response that came through STATICOM. 165 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Yeah, if you hit the present and then I can pull it up. 166 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,400 I just got to bring it up first. 167 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,400 Oh, sure. No problem. 168 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:05,400 Okay, so let me share this. 169 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:15,400 Share screen. 170 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:21,400 Also share audio. 171 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:27,400 And my one entire screen. Okay. 172 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400 All right, so this. 173 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,400 You want me to add it now and. Yeah, go ahead. 174 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:45,400 So this is upstairs at the Montgomery House. Like I said, you're going to hear Lourdes ask the spirits. What do you like about this house? 175 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:51,400 All right, all right. 176 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,400 All right, why can't I get rid of this? 177 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,400 Oh, just hit the hide button and then. 178 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:12,400 All right, here it is. 179 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,400 Oh my gosh, that is amazing, man. 180 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,400 And that's without any any white noise any, you know, 181 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:33,400 it's the white noise, the white noise is filter. Now, the way we believe this works is through what's called. 182 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:45,400 Static resonance, meaning every sound the human ear can hear is is in white noise, all at the same level, because the levels are even. 183 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:51,400 You don't hear any of it except that sort of white noise, wooshy sound. 184 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:58,400 When a spirit speaks, they go over a certain set of frequencies within the white noise. 185 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,400 Yeah, yeah. So what happens is that emboldens those frequencies, 186 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:16,400 but doesn't raise the background noise of the white noise, it elevates the sound of the voice on top of the white noise static sound. 187 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:24,400 So it's kind of like the difference between standing outside and having one bee fly by you or an entire hive. 188 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,400 That sound gets elevated. 189 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,400 Yeah, that's how we figure this is this is working. 190 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,400 That's crazy, man. You know, I'm so I'm so in awe right now. 191 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,400 Like, like, I'm ready to drive down to Arizona just to sit with you to see if we can get my brother through. 192 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:54,400 Because I mean, what we've done, what we've seen it do so far, like I said, we don't we don't know the boundaries yet. 193 00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,400 We don't know, you know, people always ask us, well, how do you know what or who you're speaking to? 194 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,400 Well, we always don't know. Yeah, we can ask. 195 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,400 And we've had spirits answer and say we're spirits. 196 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,400 But does that mean we couldn't be speaking to extraterrestrial? 197 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,400 Does that mean we couldn't be speaking to multidimensional? Absolutely not. 198 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:28,400 If the method is used and can be used by one, there is no reason why it couldn't be used by another. 199 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:37,400 I mean, most people that talk about UFO encounters say, well, I heard them speaking to me, but their mouth never moved. 200 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Well, it's because they're not using vocal sounds. 201 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,400 They're using some sort of mental energy. 202 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,400 Yeah, some sort of static or telekinetic. You think that's what they call it. 203 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:53,400 Telekinesis, you know, putting the sound in your brain. 204 00:33:53,400 --> 00:34:03,400 So so based upon that, once once you figure this out, OK, are you going to go to like glasses where we can see the different light frequencies? 205 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,400 Could you use the same technology that way? 206 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,400 Well, when you're talking about light frequencies and you're talking about producing images. 207 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:21,400 Yeah. Well, eventually, like I said, this isn't something that, you know, you do over a weekend and you're done. 208 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,400 Right. I know. I know. I'm just I'm just thinking out loud, man. 209 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:30,400 How cool would that be to hook your machine up and wear the glasses and see who's saying that? 210 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:38,400 I mean, there's lots of tests that were done by like Reynaldo. 211 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:46,400 I think Dr. Annabelle Cardoso did some as well, where both audio and visual were combined. 212 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:52,400 So do we know that it could probably be accomplished? Yes. 213 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:58,400 Are we ready to throw that out now? No, no. 214 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:08,400 That's crazy. So so are you at the point where where you can manufacture, you know, your your devices? 215 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:16,400 Well, again, it's not a device. It's a it's a method programs or you know what it is. 216 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,400 Yeah. I mean, we're not at a stage, though, where we know we're even done. 217 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:31,400 Right. We've made some great accomplishments, but there's a lot left to do. And, you know, when that day will eventually come that we say, OK, 218 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:40,400 we're at a point where we feel it's at an acceptable level to release, you know, that may be there now. 219 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:47,400 I don't know. But are we ready to do that yet? No. And for some of the reasons why I explained before. 220 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:58,400 Right. But, you know, we want to get it in the hands of typical investigators because we know they're going to be able to produce similar results. 221 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:08,400 And the results are literally mind blowing. You know, you're not talking about trying to decipher what was said in between static. 222 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:17,400 And and I mean, the the voices are about as crystal clear, at least right now, as we've been able to get it. 223 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:31,400 Now we've got lots of tests going on to improve that. But, you know, all those things still require time research, test after test after test. 224 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:39,400 But let me play for you another example. Yeah, no, I'd love it. Yeah. 225 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:49,400 So this was that this one was at the same house we were just talking about. OK. And we were in there. 226 00:36:49,400 --> 00:37:01,400 Oh, let me pause this a second. And Chris, we were at the bottom of the stairs. We hadn't gone upstairs yet. 227 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:11,400 And I see Chris looking at the stairs and I looked over and I looked on the first landing. 228 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:19,400 And I saw some little girl standing in the corner. Oh, no way. What? And then Chris said to me, he goes, do you see her? 229 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:25,400 I said, there's there's a little girl standing in the corner. He goes, so you can see her. I said, yes. 230 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:34,400 And that that's not common for me to see that. 231 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:50,400 And then we we went outside and when we were standing outside talking, I saw the same girl lean over and look out the window at us. 232 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:58,400 What? Chris saw it too. And Chris goes, did you see it? I said, yeah, she just stuck her head, poked it out the window. 233 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:04,400 He said, yeah, he goes, I can't believe you can see that. I said, I've never been able to see that before. 234 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:13,400 Well, when we got done with all that, we went upstairs and turned Staticom on and we're asking questions. 235 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:23,400 And this this is what Staticom said after that. After after everything that you just experienced. 236 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:29,400 Correct. OK, all right. 237 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:35,400 Let's see. 238 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:45,400 I can't get over that, man. I I I saw my first apparition as helping this family and I saw this glowing white light and and I went to the next room. 239 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,400 I was like, nope, not not ready for that. It was my first investigation. 240 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:59,400 I was like, nope. All right. You ready? You want to show this? Yeah. OK. 241 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:11,400 So, like I said, this is the same house. Yeah. But here is what the response that came through Staticom. 242 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:19,400 What? 243 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:27,400 Tony Rathmann can see that is clear as clear can be, man. That is amazing. 244 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:34,400 Yeah. And they nailed it because that's exactly what just occurred. I've never seen that before. 245 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:45,400 And you know, and not only not only did it accurately and intelligently define what occurred. 246 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:51,400 Yeah. Said my first and last name. Yeah. No, I was clear as day. 247 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:58,400 I'm so jealous, man. You need another member on your team. I'll take the Colorado area. 248 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:05,400 And it's wild. It's wild stuff. No, no doubt about it. But, you know, we. 249 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:16,400 Like I said, every time we. Mess with it, something else occurs, but I'm going to I'm going to play one more. 250 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:24,400 And this is actually this is actually we we had just started. 251 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:31,400 This was probably two years ago, three years ago. OK. And we had a voice come through. 252 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:38,400 And the voice identified himself as Bocci, Marcello Lott. 253 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:47,400 Now, was this the Ron's device or was this when you first were starting your Staticom stuff? 254 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:53,400 I can't remember whether this was Staticom or DRV. I think it was Staticom. 255 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,400 But this was off of my machine. 256 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,400 And the one I'm going to play after that, this came off of Ron's machine. 257 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,400 Ron and Lourdes are in New Jersey. We're in Phoenix, Arizona. 258 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:13,400 So we are literally across the country from each other. Thousands of miles apart. Right. 259 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:27,400 So here is. Here's the first one. 260 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:33,400 OK, let me share this. It's on there. Yeah, you're good. OK. 261 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:42,400 All right. Here it is. 262 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:53,400 What? 263 00:41:53,400 --> 00:42:13,400 Spirits, can you please try to communicate with us through this device? 264 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:26,400 Bocci. 265 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,400 Can you see us? 266 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,400 Yes. 267 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:41,400 Thank you. 268 00:42:41,400 --> 00:43:00,400 It is working. Can you please try to communicate with us? 269 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:08,400 Wow, man. So we got a question from ERRT radio. It says, can the echo be adjusted? 270 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:15,400 There is no echo. There isn't no echo. There are no there are no side effects in this at all. 271 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:21,400 No reverb. No, none of that. That's right. That's awesome. 272 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,400 So like you were saying earlier, it's just the sound studio. 273 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:32,400 You know, it's automatically adjusting, you know, the frequencies, the D verb. 274 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,400 And it's doing it all on its own. Right. Correct. 275 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,400 OK, wow. That is crazy, man. 276 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:47,400 What's the next one you wanted to show us? I think it was with Ron's DRV. 277 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,400 Right. The next one's from Ron Staticom. 278 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:59,400 And it was literally a day after, two days after the one I just played. 279 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,400 So let me find that. Hold on. 280 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,400 Dude, wouldn't it be crazy if you're like Michello Bocci in the past life or something? 281 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:14,400 Well, considering he answered on the last one I just played, I can't be in two places at once. 282 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:23,400 So it wasn't me. All right. So here's the one. 283 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,400 All right. So this is the one Ron got. So, all right. 284 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:32,400 Let's see. Is the audio still shared? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. You're still good. 285 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,400 All right. Here it is. 286 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:39,400 Wow. 287 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:52,400 Wow. What? 288 00:45:52,400 --> 00:46:03,400 Oh, wow. 289 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:31,400 That was insane. 290 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,400 I'm going to go to the 291 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:40,740 church. It's crazy. Yeah. So, 292 00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:42,540 you know, the the the craziest 293 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,940 thing about it is when we 294 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,740 started realizing the 295 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,580 responses that we're getting 296 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,880 was like I said, for 1213 297 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:53,380 years, I built spirit boxes. 298 00:46:50,940 --> 00:46:55,980 Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. But 299 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:59,420 the thing about a spirit box is 300 00:46:59,420 --> 00:47:06,360 you're asking and you ask 301 00:47:02,780 --> 00:47:10,320 question after question after 302 00:47:06,420 --> 00:47:14,300 question, hoping, hoping to get 303 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,860 some kind of response. One of 304 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:21,800 the first times I turned on 305 00:47:15,940 --> 00:47:25,240 Staticom and realized they were 306 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:29,220 asking me questions. I was 307 00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:33,940 like, what's the huge difference 308 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,440 between what Staticom can do and 309 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,940 what your typical spirit box 310 00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:38,900 does? Well, like you were saying 311 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,840 earlier, you don't know who's on 312 00:47:38,980 --> 00:47:43,840 the other end. You know, what 313 00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:46,220 if it is an alien or maybe it is 314 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,620 spirit? You you don't know, you 315 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,120 know, that's that's the thing. 316 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,580 We're we're like you were saying, 317 00:47:50,180 --> 00:47:53,960 we're stuck in this 3D world. 318 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:55,420 You know, we we have no idea 319 00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:56,960 what what the fourth dimension, 320 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,760 fifth dimension offers, you 321 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,140 know, and you're not well on 322 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,740 your path to to finding out. 323 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,700 Let me ask you this. Do you do 324 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,200 you believe that you have 325 00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:10,840 spirit guides? That spirit 326 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,280 guides are with you on helping 327 00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:14,780 you on this life path? Well, I 328 00:48:13,340 --> 00:48:19,720 mean, I'm sure there's some 329 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,720 influence from any 330 00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:24,220 from any spirit, whether you 331 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,660 consider it a guide or not. 332 00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:31,380 You know, what you consider your 333 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,440 spirituality to be and what you 334 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:37,520 consider to be, you know, your 335 00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:40,780 various religious background, 336 00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:42,580 cultural backgrounds, but you 337 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,080 know, physics alone says energy 338 00:48:42,660 --> 00:48:47,560 cannot be created or destroyed. 339 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:50,560 It can only change form. The 340 00:48:47,620 --> 00:48:53,060 human body, the human body runs 341 00:48:53,060 --> 00:48:59,500 through the human body. If if 342 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:03,480 you were taking a road trip in 343 00:48:59,580 --> 00:49:05,040 your car and you had 12 miles 344 00:49:03,540 --> 00:49:07,580 till it was empty and you had 345 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,280 to go 200 miles, what do you 346 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,780 do? You fill your car up with 347 00:49:09,340 --> 00:49:14,460 gas to be able to make the 348 00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:18,860 trip, right? Exactly. Okay. 349 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:21,860 Well, if if we as human beings 350 00:49:21,860 --> 00:49:28,240 are tired, then if I was tired, 351 00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:30,840 all I would have to do is eat a 352 00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:32,280 big meal and all my energy 353 00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:34,880 should be back but we all know 354 00:49:32,340 --> 00:49:37,320 that's not how it works. So, 355 00:49:34,940 --> 00:49:41,780 it's only the human body that 356 00:49:37,380 --> 00:49:45,260 is nourished by nutrients. The 357 00:49:41,860 --> 00:49:47,220 other part, spirit, 358 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,800 consciousness, soul, must 359 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,800 recharge somewhere during 360 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:59,400 the day. It's the recharge of 361 00:49:54,740 --> 00:50:01,840 both body and consciousness. 362 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,480 Or do you think it's emotion? 363 00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:05,820 Like when you're happy, things 364 00:50:03,540 --> 00:50:07,240 things tend to go quicker as 365 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,820 opposed to when you're you're 366 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,720 sad or depressed. Time seems to 367 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:16,720 go slower. So, so that part of 368 00:50:11,780 --> 00:50:18,260 energy Well, I mean, Nikola 369 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,720 Tesla said that if you want to 370 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,960 understand the universe, think 371 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,360 about the universe because 372 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,520 that's what controls 373 00:50:23,420 --> 00:50:27,320 everything. If you look at what 374 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,500 consciousness is, that's energy 375 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,160 frequency and vibration. Well, 376 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:35,200 guess what white noise is? 377 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:36,800 Energy, frequency, and 378 00:50:35,260 --> 00:50:39,700 vibration and that is what has 379 00:50:36,860 --> 00:50:43,380 allowed these voices to come 380 00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:45,840 through. So, if you're talking 381 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:48,080 in terms of energy or energy 382 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:53,080 frequency, that's the building 383 00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:54,080 blocks of probably the universe 384 00:50:53,140 --> 00:50:55,840 of consciousness and 385 00:50:54,140 --> 00:50:57,440 everything in between. So, 386 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,080 depending on what your reality 387 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:03,080 is of what what the world is 388 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:05,060 around you, the main building 389 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,020 block has to be consciousness 390 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,560 or energy, frequency, and 391 00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:12,060 vibration. That's that's how we 392 00:51:08,620 --> 00:51:14,960 communicate. That's how we can 393 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,640 communicate after the passing 394 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,640 of consciousness. That's not 395 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:23,400 there means that that energy 396 00:51:20,700 --> 00:51:25,640 has to survive or there'd be no 397 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:29,240 way to get the answers we're 398 00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:30,880 getting. Yeah, no, I I totally 399 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,440 agree and Todd is saying the 400 00:51:30,940 --> 00:51:36,080 difference between spirit box 401 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:38,360 and static is not once there 402 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,860 have been some type of spirit 403 00:51:38,420 --> 00:51:43,400 communication direct response 404 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:50,280 from you. I don't I I I'm so in 405 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,840 awe of you right now. Like like 406 00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:53,320 those responses are just 407 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,420 amazing and and I'm glad you're 408 00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:57,880 you're you're developing them. 409 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,380 Anything I can do to help man. 410 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,680 If you need something from 411 00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:04,360 just let me know dude II love 412 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,960 you man. Um tell tell tell all 413 00:52:04,420 --> 00:52:07,420 our viewers where where can we 414 00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:09,800 find you? I know you got your 415 00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:11,360 your podcast with uh with Ron 416 00:52:09,860 --> 00:52:12,760 and Chris. Why why don't you 417 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,720 tell us about it? We have a 418 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:20,700 live podcast every Monday 419 00:52:16,780 --> 00:52:24,700 night, 9 PM Eastern. Um 7 PM 420 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:26,260 Mountain, 6 PM Pacific Time 421 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,700 called Entity Voices 422 00:52:26,340 --> 00:52:30,640 Paranormal Evidence. We will 423 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,740 show our own evidence, stuff 424 00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:35,740 from Staticom. We will invite 425 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,640 paranormal investigators from 426 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,320 all over the country. Come and 427 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,520 get your evidence through the 428 00:52:41,980 --> 00:52:47,680 clips. We break it down from 429 00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:49,760 every aspect possible. Looking 430 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,260 at what worked, what didn't 431 00:52:49,820 --> 00:52:54,260 work, what could be replicated. 432 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,760 Um what tools they were using, 433 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,200 what equipment they were using. 434 00:52:55,820 --> 00:53:00,960 So, that's a great time every 435 00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:04,040 week but we've got YouTube 436 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,300 under Entity Voices uh 437 00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:07,200 paranormal investigations. We 438 00:53:05,380 --> 00:53:10,280 got YouTube under Staticom. We 439 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,480 got YouTube under Staticom uh 440 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,280 shows the team, shows stuff on 441 00:53:14,540 --> 00:53:19,280 Staticom uh and then we've got 442 00:53:16,340 --> 00:53:21,280 Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, 443 00:53:19,340 --> 00:53:22,760 Twitter. Um yeah. Just look up 444 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,820 entity voices or Staticom. 445 00:53:22,820 --> 00:53:26,460 You'll you'll come across us. 446 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,760 That's awesome, man. I'm sure 447 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,260 if we just Google your name, 448 00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:32,160 they'll all come up too, right? 449 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,560 A lot of them will, yeah. Alright 450 00:53:32,220 --> 00:53:36,560 man. So, I I can't thank you 451 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,040 enough, Tony and I'm sorry AJ 452 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,240 couldn't be here. I know he had 453 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,440 a great time. Awesome is time 454 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,680 with you, man and I can't thank 455 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:48,180 you enough for for giving us 456 00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:51,720 this opportunity. You bet. So, 457 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:54,260 pleasure to um yeah and uh you 458 00:53:51,780 --> 00:53:56,260 know, um we're already friends 459 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,760 on Facebook, dude. So, um I I 460 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,660 appreciate everything and your 461 00:53:57,820 --> 00:54:03,260 wife uh is saying uh great show 462 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:05,660 and guest. So, she's giving you 463 00:54:03,340 --> 00:54:07,240 props, dude. You did a good 464 00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:09,700 job. Definitely nice of you, 465 00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:13,800 man. I I'm glad you're here and 466 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:15,200 I this has been uh one of our 467 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,700 greater shows and I can't thank 468 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,640 you enough Tony for for hanging 469 00:54:16,780 --> 00:54:21,420 in there with me and um you 470 00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:22,720 know, I uh I really hope I can 471 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,220 get to Arizona. I would love to 472 00:54:22,780 --> 00:54:26,180 sit down with you and do a 473 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,580 session and and see what we 474 00:54:26,260 --> 00:54:28,720 could get. So, yeah, we got a 475 00:54:27,660 --> 00:54:29,960 bunch of we're going to be in. 476 00:54:28,780 --> 00:54:30,820 If you ever do get out in 477 00:54:30,020 --> 00:54:32,120 Arizona, especially in the next 478 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,700 couple of months, we're going to 479 00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:37,500 be in the Globe Paracon um mid 480 00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:41,600 April, we're going to be on uh 481 00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:45,440 end of April and there will be 482 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:47,040 complete demonstrations um uh 483 00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:50,440 presentations and everything in 484 00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:52,380 between on this. So, so, yeah. 485 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:55,880 No, I I really appreciate you, 486 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:58,060 Tony and um you know, I I'll I'll 487 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,520 be honest. I was a little 488 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,820 skeptic to it but you know, 489 00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:03,520 after the talking to you and 490 00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:05,500 getting to see how how you your 491 00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:10,560 work and your research, man, I 492 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:13,060 am I am so proud that you're 493 00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:14,940 you're my friend, man and um 494 00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:18,140 you know, I I'm really going to 495 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,500 push your stuff. So, um I'll I'll 496 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,940 try to make it down there. I'll 497 00:55:19,580 --> 00:55:22,480 try to make it down to Arizona. 498 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,140 I'd love to meet you, man. Yeah 499 00:55:22,540 --> 00:55:25,580 and like I said, you know, 500 00:55:24,220 --> 00:55:28,720 Sheree and I do it on the West 501 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,920 Coast. Ryan and Lourdes um do 502 00:55:28,780 --> 00:55:32,380 it on the East Coast um and 503 00:55:30,980 --> 00:55:33,820 they probably even have more 504 00:55:32,460 --> 00:55:35,260 events. Well, not probably. 505 00:55:35,260 --> 00:55:40,540 They're not the only event. The 506 00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:43,240 East Coast is much more 507 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:47,740 charged than than the West but 508 00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:49,720 um if you ever get a chance and 509 00:55:47,820 --> 00:55:51,520 see something called TDSI or 510 00:55:49,780 --> 00:55:53,180 the digital seance initiative. 511 00:55:51,580 --> 00:55:54,780 We do it on the West Coast. 512 00:55:53,260 --> 00:55:56,260 Ron and Lourdes do it on the 513 00:55:54,860 --> 00:55:59,120 East Coast. That's where people 514 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,300 come in. They watch, they 515 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,160 listen, they can ask their own 516 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,800 questions and it uh it's just 517 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,840 a little bit of a challenge. So, 518 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,780 if you see that, check it out. 519 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,780 Oh, I definitely will and Brian 520 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,180 says, thank you uh you know, 521 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,860 for coming on the Para Post 522 00:56:14,260 --> 00:56:17,160 Network, Tony. He he 523 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,520 appreciates that. You bet, 524 00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:22,400 Brian. Thank you. And um uh you 525 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,800 know, guys, I can't thank you 526 00:56:22,460 --> 00:56:26,800 enough and uh thanks for tuning 527 00:56:24,860 --> 00:56:27,940 in. Uh Tony, I'll put you 528 00:56:26,860 --> 00:56:29,440 backstage. Uh it's up to you if 529 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,200 you want to stay or go. I I 530 00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:32,700 just wanted to say a quick 531 00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:36,420 thank you. Alright. I 532 00:56:34,180 --> 00:56:37,320 appreciate it. Thank you, 533 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,180 Jonathan. Yeah, I'll put you 534 00:56:37,380 --> 00:56:41,580 backstage here. Uh guys, 535 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:44,180 fabulous show. If you missed 536 00:56:41,660 --> 00:56:45,960 it, catch the rewatch and uh 537 00:56:44,260 --> 00:56:47,920 you know, I can't, I can't 538 00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:49,500 thank Tony enough for for 539 00:56:47,980 --> 00:56:52,100 everything. So, uh have a good 540 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,700 night guys and uh this was 541 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,600 talking with the source. Take 542 00:56:53,760 --> 00:57:01,600 care. This is going to show. 543 00:56:57,660 --> 00:57:01,600 It's not showing. 544 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,800 You know, the spirit's 545 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,640 messing with my computer. 546 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:35,960 Yeah.